#Soylent | Logs for 2016-12-31
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[00:02:50] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, 23°C/73°F, 11:02 am AEDT, Saturday, 31 December 2016
[00:05:16] <chromas> ~last nick=TheMightyBuzzard
[00:05:55] <exec> 03[2016-12-29 12:55:2] #Soylent <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[00:06:39] <chromas> ~count message=nig
[00:07:29] <exec> 036914
[00:07:35] <chromas> from the slooow dept
[00:10:06] <Bytram> slow++
[00:10:06] <Bender> karma - slow: 1
[00:10:13] <Bytram> ;)
[00:23:59] * Bytram gives up on trying to get VirtualBox 5.0.0 to work with a fresh Ubuntu 14.04 install... only available display res is 640x480. decides to D/L VB 5.1.12
[00:35:26] <crutchy> if i dont see you guys later, have a happy and safe new year
[00:35:36] <Bytram> crutchy: heya!
[00:35:37] <charon_> cheers crutchy
[00:35:44] <crutchy> i'll be off celebrating at a friends place in a few hours
[00:35:45] <Bytram> crutchy: and a very happy new year to YOU!
[00:35:49] <crutchy> thanks mate :)
[00:35:57] <crutchy> ~g'day Bytram
[00:35:59] * exec diarrhetically reverse-engineers a tablespoon of Hitler did nothing wrong from Bytram
[00:36:02] <crutchy> ~g'day charon_
[00:36:03] * exec crutchyly allocates a smidgen of extra lives for charon_
[00:36:06] <Bytram> ~gday crutchy
[00:36:07] <crutchy> ~g'day chromas
[00:36:08] * exec sneakily tosses a speck of TNT to crutchy
[00:36:08] * exec historically pukes a cloud of aptitude on chromas
[00:36:19] <charon_> yay, extra lives
[00:36:29] <crutchy> just a smidgen :p
[00:36:31] <Bytram> methinks a peck is some fraction of a bushel
[00:36:48] <Bytram> either that or something that a chicken does. =)
[00:36:50] <charon_> 1/4, IIRC
[00:36:53] <crutchy> or a method of a class of bird
[00:36:55] <Bytram> I think so
[00:37:21] <crutchy> tbird.peck()
[00:37:41] * Bytram is NOT gonna touch that one
[00:37:43] <Bytram> ;)
[00:38:42] * Bytram is about to install virtualbox 5.1.12 -- wants to reset host adapter -- looks like I might lose networking for a brief interval... wish me luck!
[00:38:58] * Bytram clicks
[00:39:15] * Bytram watches disk thrash
[00:39:37] * charon_ ducks
[00:40:41] * Bytram quacks
[00:41:31] <crutchy> yeah pretty sure it throws up a dialog about that
[00:42:27] <Bytram> seems to have found my existing vms
[00:42:39] <crutchy> virtualbox++
[00:42:39] <Bender> karma - virtualbox: 4
[00:42:49] <Bytram> noticed I had old extension pack installed and volunteers to D/L updated version from net
[00:43:10] * Bytram had already done a D/l as a separate file, but it did not give me THAT option. :/
[00:44:18] <crutchy> i don't install guest additions from the devices menu. i use direct download from vbox website. not sure if thats what you mean by extension pack
[00:44:49] <crutchy> graphics always seems to fuck up on me if using the device menu option
[00:45:21] <Bytram> at this point, I just followed directions. =)
[00:45:21] <crutchy> debian stable might be a little too stable for vbox :p
[00:45:55] <crutchy> directions are only for disaster recovery :D
[00:45:59] <Bytram> As it installed the new VirtualBox version, it noticed I had a backlevel guest additions and volunteered to download and install upgraded version.
[00:46:13] <Bytram> since I've had some issues with it in the past, that seemed like the best idea.
[00:46:23] <crutchy> probably yeah
[00:46:35] * Bytram attempts a normal start of his VM
[00:46:46] * Bytram and crosses all extremeties
[00:46:49] <crutchy> i made a wiki page at work for it cos i oretty sure i'll forget when comes time to update work vms
[00:47:22] <Bytram> yep, just often enough to know that you once knew how to do it and pretty darn sure that by know had forgotten!
[00:47:47] <crutchy> most dont have x running though so guest additions not that important
[00:47:55] <crutchy> i think theres maybe one or two
[00:47:57] <Bytram> so far so good; vm came up and asked for my pwd
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[00:48:34] <Bytram> and, I'm still stuck at 640x480 display by default. :( !!!!
[00:49:41] <Bytram> wonder if it's cos I only have 12MB dedicated to display?
[00:49:56] <Bytram> shuts fdown VM and reconfigures avail screen mem
[00:50:25] <Bytram> increases from 12MB to 128MB (max)
[00:50:36] <Bytram> tries normal start again
[00:50:40] <charon_> 12MB. that seems low
[00:50:43] <crutchy> yeah graphics is the killer eh :p
[00:51:13] <crutchy> usually there will be a message in the GA install telling you if it fucked up graphics
[00:51:19] <Bytram> yep, tho there was a time when I would have been ecstatic to have 640x480 res -- that's like 4 times what CGA had!!
[00:51:58] <crutchy> if it doesn't fix by itself, i recommend installing from vbox website download
[00:52:31] <Bytram> how would I do that?
[00:52:57] <crutchy> download a tarball, extract and run something like InstallVBoxGuestAdditions.so or something
[00:52:58] <charon_> i recommend a 3 lb mini sledge, myself
[00:53:18] <crutchy> (as root obviously)
[00:53:20] <Bytram> 3lbs sounds about right
[00:53:30] <Bytram> aimed at the root, of course!
[00:53:31] <crutchy> 1,5kg thanks
[00:53:31] <Bytram> =0
[00:53:39] <Bytram> lol
[00:53:39] <crutchy> :D
[00:53:51] <nick> Bytram !!
[00:53:53] <Bytram> or maybe I am doing it wrong?
[00:53:54] <crutchy> oops. comma is euro
[00:54:10] <crutchy> you might just be holding it wrong, iphone style
[00:54:14] <Bytram> crutchy: I am not unfamilar with different decimal separators
[00:54:21] <Bytram> crutchy: that must be it.
[00:54:24] <crutchy> haha no doubt
[00:54:29] <crutchy> you would know better than me
[00:54:53] <Bytram> i can drag my VM window to make it larger, but the ubuntu 'screen' within it is still stuck at same 640x480 size.
[00:55:14] <crutchy> yeah that was the graphics fuck up i mentioned
[00:56:48] <Bytram> hmm, maybe cause i have a virtual additions ISO mounted in my optical drive?
[00:57:22] <Bytram> hmmm, it's the updated one, too!
[00:58:06] * Bytram double-clicks on the ISO
[00:58:07] <crutchy> https://www.virtualbox.org
[00:58:09] <exec> └─ 13Downloads – Oracle VM VirtualBox
[00:58:21] <Bytram> get scary message about not running strange code
[00:58:34] <crutchy> hmm. looks like they changed from "Guest Additions" to "Extension Pack"?
[00:58:47] <Bytram> that is what it looks like to me
[00:58:53] <Bytram> urg.
[00:59:27] <Bytram> Failed to set up service vboxadd, please check the log file /var/log/VBoxGuestAdditions.log for details
[00:59:36] <Bytram> press return to close this window
[01:00:35] <charon_> you know what this needs? a cool mascot to pop up and help you do things. where's Clippy when you need him?
[01:00:52] <crutchy> i think from memory you might need to apt-get install build-essentials and maybe dkms or something. can't remember (thats why i wrote it down in a wiki page)
[01:01:01] <crutchy> if you havent already
[01:01:22] <Bytram> tried it before and it barfed (see #qa) am gonna try again
[01:01:24] <Bytram> cd
[01:02:16] <Bytram> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms
[01:02:47] <crutchy> i wouldnt install anything vbox-related from debian repos. its fkin waay old
[01:03:03] <Bytram> oh... NOW you tell me!
[01:03:14] <Bytram> =)
[01:03:23] <crutchy> thats why i download direct from vbox website :)
[01:03:46] <Bytram> but what do you do with the file after the D/L?
[01:04:14] * Bytram already has D/Led: Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-5.1.12-112440.vbox-extpack
[01:04:17] <crutchy> there should be a few executable files in the tarball extract (assuming its still a tarball)
[01:04:26] <crutchy> you pick the right one and bash it
[01:04:40] <Bytram> with the 1,5 kg sledge, rightr?
[01:04:47] <crutchy> yeah pretty much :D
[01:05:33] <crutchy> they have long names but if you tab your way through them (or ls beforehand) you should be able to get the right one
[01:05:47] <Bytram> then again, this is a (relativrely) old ubuntu ... 14.04 so I'd like to think they have the bugs out of it by now
[01:06:19] <Bytram> well, it's still chewing on the dkms thingy
[01:06:26] <crutchy> just dont try to install old GA on a new vbox
[01:06:36] <Bytram> GA?
[01:06:43] <Bytram> google analytics?
[01:06:43] <crutchy> guest additions
[01:06:47] <Bytram> oh. doh!
[01:08:21] <Bytram> is not so easy to watch on tiny terminal... seems to be busy building somehing... oh wait
[01:08:35] <Bytram> DKMS install complete
[01:08:39] <Bytram> setting up triggers
[01:08:50] <Bytram> done?!!!
[01:08:56] * crutchy is triggered
[01:09:32] <crutchy> 80 character width should be enough for anybody
[01:09:34] <charon_> five bucks says it still doesn't work
[01:09:52] <crutchy> i have nfi what Bytram is doing actually :p
[01:10:03] <crutchy> i bet it looks tricky though
[01:10:08] <charon_> pssst, i think he doesn't wither
[01:10:10] <crutchy> terminals are always sexy
[01:10:12] <Bytram> #smake crutchy
[01:10:12] * MrPlow smakes crutchy upside the head with patriarchal oppression
[01:10:17] <Bytram> =)
[01:10:33] <charon_> s/wither/either/
[01:10:35] <exec> <charon_> pssst, i think he doesn't either
[01:10:37] <Bytram> okay, I have no idea why, but I'm gonna reboot my vm
[01:10:41] <crutchy> help! i'm being oppressed!
[01:10:59] * crutchy tries to force monty python out of his head
[01:11:00] <charon_> by who? a watery tart?
[01:11:25] <Bytram> A tartery wart?
[01:11:39] <crutchy> i'll take the welsh tart from the other movie
[01:12:22] <charon_> a moistened bint
[01:13:26] * Bytram shuts down the VM and vbox and everything and starts back at the beginning
[01:13:26] <Bytram> Raquel Welch?
[01:14:16] <Bytram> !woop
[01:14:16] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[01:14:21] <Bytram> It worked!
[01:14:33] <charon_> too bad no one took my bet
[01:14:47] <crutchy> Bytram++ # whoohoo!
[01:14:47] <Bender> karma - bytram: 83
[01:15:19] <Bytram> appreciate all the encouragement along the way!
[01:15:23] <Bytram> crutchy++
[01:15:23] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 218
[01:15:30] <Bytram> charon++
[01:15:30] <Bender> karma - charon: 1
[01:15:37] <Bytram> huh?
[01:15:38] <Bytram> charon++
[01:15:38] <Bender> karma - charon: 2
[01:15:40] <Bytram> charon++
[01:15:40] <Bender> karma - charon: 3
[01:17:27] <Bytram> okay... so how do I best make a 'backup' /'clone' or whatever so that i can recreate this VM at will in the future?
[01:18:38] * Bytram makes a 'full clone' of VB002 virtualbox vm
[01:18:46] <Bytram> is gonna take a while... break time
[01:19:05] <Bytram> again, many thanks to the both of you -- this has been bugging me for ages!
[01:19:13] <Bytram> afk
[01:19:34] <chromas> http://i63.tinypic.com
[01:19:37] <exec> └─ 13Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
[01:24:34] <charon_> lol, i didn't do anything but heckle
[01:27:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Diamond Nanowires Assemble Themselves - http://sylnt.us - up-next-self-assembling-jigsaw-puzzles
[01:28:38] <Bytram> okay, I think I'm gonna leave well enough alone and watch a video instead... Interstellar or... Star Trek IX Insurrection ??
[01:28:38] <Bytram> recommendations?
[01:28:53] <charon_> the martian
[01:29:26] <Bytram> saw that one at the theater
[01:29:29] <charon_> i was underwhelmed by Interstellar
[01:30:12] <charon_> not that it was bad, but not as good as the people who recommended it to me
[01:30:42] <Bytram> The martian was pretty good, but seemed to be more of a play-by-play --- lacked a sense of "oh crapt, what am I gonna do NOW?"
[01:31:16] * Bytram decides to check rotten tomatoes web site
[01:32:28] <charon_> Dr Strange is fun. if you like comic book movies anyway
[01:33:13] <charon_> may not be available for home viewing yet though
[01:33:23] <Bytram> heard good things about that one, but am staying in and those were the videos I'd picked up but hadn't yet seen
[01:33:56] <Bytram> RottenTomatoes gives 55% to insurrection
[01:34:01] <charon_> ok, then of those two, interstellar
[01:37:37] <Bytram> yeah, seems that insurrection is panned as being mostly a long TV episode -- okay, but not great
[01:38:29] <Bytram> hmm, interstellar is 169 minutes? 2h49m? that's kinda longish
[01:38:33] <charon_> i'm not sure if i even saw it. the plotline is unfamiliar to me
[01:38:43] <charon_> yeah, it's quite long
[01:39:05] <charon_> luckily, you have a pause button
[01:39:06] <Bytram> then again it got a 71% rating vs insurrection at 55%
[01:42:00] <Bytram> insurrection is 102m --> 1h42m
[01:42:12] <charon_> i've always been a fan of matthew mcconaughey
[01:42:21] <Bytram> hmmm, if I go with interstellar I'll be up until near midnight.
[01:42:26] <charon_> he's so dreamy
[01:47:07] <charon_> i'm about to finish work. whatever you choose, have a good evening Bytram
[01:47:45] <chromas> Play it in vlc, increase play speed
[01:47:52] <Bytram> many thanks!
[01:47:59] <Bytram> btw, who IS this? https://resizing.flixster.com
[01:48:40] <Bytram> I've seen that photo before, I think, but can't find out who she is or what movie she is in.
[01:48:43] <charon_> rogue one. the actress is Felicity Jones
[01:48:54] <Bytram> charon++
[01:48:54] <Bender> karma - charon: 4
[01:48:56] <Bytram> thanks!
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[01:49:13] <khallow> howdy
[01:50:09] <charon_> hiyo khallow
[01:52:33] * Bytram waves to khallow
[01:52:49] * Bytram heads off to watch ST insurrection
[01:53:07] <Bytram> have a great night everyone, and if I don't see ya before then... Happy New Year!
[01:53:14] * charon_ is going to do 10 minutes of work before quitting time
[01:53:23] <charon_> ~gnight Bytram
[01:53:24] * exec cromulently blows a mighty bundle of reticulated splines at Bytram
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[02:40:30] <khallow> oh yea, 2017 is around the corner
[03:11:50] <mechanicjay> I haven't reticulated my splines in years!
[03:14:19] <khallow> that sounds painful
[03:14:34] <khallow> I wouldn't want to reticulate my spine either
[03:14:52] <mechanicjay> spline, not spine
[03:15:06] <mechanicjay> I wouldn't want my spine reticulated either!
[03:15:49] <khallow> got $100 in gift certificates for Amazon
[03:16:25] <khallow> suffering from decision paralysis
[03:16:38] <khallow> in a good way :)
[03:17:32] <mechanicjay> Yeah, I held on a $50 Amazon card for like 2 years with that same problem.
[03:26:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Qualcomm Fined $853 Million by South Korea for Antitrust Violations - http://sylnt.us - don't-call-me-text-me
[03:28:18] <khallow> That sounds like that'll sting a bit
[03:28:27] <khallow> Australia can't be that big a market
[03:34:25] <khallow> we have some pretty intense lists in the news these days
[03:34:40] <khallow> http://www.thecannabist.co
[03:35:38] <khallow> Year in weed: The five most important medical marijuana research studies of 2016
[04:20:51] <pinchy> !seen blahblah
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[04:52:15] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 3°C/38°F, 8:52 pm GMT-8, Friday, 30 December 2016
[05:15:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cyanogen Inc. Shuts Down CyanogenMod in Christmas Bloodbath - http://sylnt.us - there-will-be-tears
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[05:37:05] <jdavidb> Hey, this might turn out to be a fairly big story
[05:37:10] <jdavidb> but there aren't a lot of details at the moment
[05:37:19] <jdavidb> hackers have compromised the Free Ross Ulbricht accounts
[05:37:37] <jdavidb> the family of "Dread Pirate Roberts" collecting money for his legal defense
[05:37:51] <jdavidb> a large amount of money was collected a couple weekends ago in a "Free Ross A Thon" event
[05:38:03] <jdavidb> not sure if the hackers got any of that or what
[05:38:10] <jdavidb> I just submitted the story
[05:38:28] <jdavidb> with the only link I have, a Reddit post by Roger K Ver, a well known Bitcoin entrepreneur
[05:38:51] <jdavidb> (Ver matched all the funds in the Free Ross A Thon, which was quite a bit of money. I probably should've put that in the story, but I was in a hurry.)
[05:39:07] <jdavidb> Anybody who might donate to this effort should know they shouldn't donate at this time
[05:39:14] <jdavidb> https://soylentnews.org
[05:39:16] <exec> └─ 13Ross Ulbricht freedom effort hacked: SoylentNews Submission
[05:39:30] <jdavidb> https://twitter.com
[05:39:32] <exec> └─ 13Roger Ver on Twitter: "Hackers that prey upon those who are already dealing with so much heartache deserve all of our contempt. https://t.co https://t.co"
[05:39:44] <jdavidb> https://www.reddit.com
[05:39:47] <exec> └─ 13PSA: Free Ross Accounts Hacked - Do Not Donate (at this time) : btc
[05:40:12] <jdavidb> "the Free Ross email addresses, phone numbers, twitter account, paypal account, and bitcoin accounts have all been compromised"
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[07:36:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ancient Chinese Malaria Remedy Fights TB - http://sylnt.us - breathe-a-little-easier
[09:37:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Toshiba Shares Plunge Ahead of Nuclear Investment Writedown - http://sylnt.us - fission-for-investments
[11:19:19] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[11:19:19] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[11:19:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:19:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3106
[11:25:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Adobe Offers Flash Update for Linux Again - but Without All the Functionality - http://sylnt.us - not-quite-so-flash
[11:51:30] <FatPhil> My neighbour: "i can't use my phone as it has too many baby pictures on it"
[12:40:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, it's that time again
[12:40:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> fishing++
[12:40:59] <Bender> karma - fishing: 24
[13:26:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CES 2017: LG's Levitating Bluetooth Speaker - http://sylnt.us - sounds-a-bit-too-high
[14:16:55] <crutchy> happy new year!
[14:16:58] <crutchy> ~time
[14:17:00] <exec> Sunday, 1 January 2017 @ 1:16 am AEDT - Melbourne VIC
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[15:27:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hotter Days Will Drive Global Inequality - http://sylnt.us - rich-will-become-richer
[17:27:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - True Cost of Recruiting a Developer - http://sylnt.us - you-know-you're-worth-it
[19:26:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Top Secret Snowden Doc Reveals What NSA Knew About Previous Russian Hacking - http://sylnt.us - who-knew-what-when
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[20:55:43] <exec> welcome nick: Laurium, Calumet Township, MI, USA, -4°C/24°F, 3:55 pm GMT-5, Saturday, 31 December 2016
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[21:11:15] <mrpg> https://blog.twitter.com
[21:11:17] <exec> └─ 13Check out live 360 video on Twitter | Twitter Blogs
[21:15:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Engineers Create Programmable Silk-Based Materials With Embedded, Pre-Designed Functions - http://sylnt.us - next-up-is-programmable-ties
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[21:30:42] <exec> welcome nick: Laurium, Calumet Township, MI, USA, -4°C/24°F, 4:30 pm GMT-5, Saturday, 31 December 2016
[21:33:41] <mrpg> What if your surname were Null? http://www.bbc.com
[21:33:42] <exec> └─ 13BBC - Future - These unlucky people have names that break computers
[21:58:45] <charon_> that's a good story, mrpg. did you submit it?
[21:59:58] <mrpg> I didn't but I can.
[22:00:11] <mrpg> I submitted this Russian Operation Hacked a Vermont Utility
[22:03:26] <charon_> maybe i should steal it
[22:04:13] <mrpg> submitted: topic software.
[22:04:24] <mrpg> FIRST POST
[22:04:27] <mrpg> FIRST SUBMIT
[22:04:36] <mrpg> hehe
[22:07:04] <nick> https://www.theguardian.com
[22:07:06] <exec> └─ 13'Post-truth' named word of the year by Oxford Dictionaries | Books | The Guardian
[22:07:15] <nick> is from last month, but i hadn't seen it
[22:08:28] <mrpg> post-truth sounds like ad populum fallacy
[22:12:52] <nick> the world keeps getting stranger, the article is as idiotic as the situation it's describing
[22:14:08] <mrpg> livejournal moves to Russia http://www.metafilter.com
[22:14:09] <exec> └─ 13"LiveJournal represents social media without borders." | MetaFilter
[22:19:14] <nick> very interesting
[22:22:24] <mrpg> yes the rss feed is interesting today.
[22:23:33] -!- mrpg [mrpg!~m@Soylent/Staff/Editor/mrpg] has parted #Soylent
[22:56:01] -!- charon_ has quit [Quit: time for kung bao chicken]
[23:00:00] <Tachyon_> hny!
[23:17:59] <nick> http://nypost.com
[23:27:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla Autopilot's New Radar Technology Predicts an Accident Caught on Dashcam a Second Later - http://sylnt.us - still-keep-your-hands-on-the-wheel
[23:39:30] * Deucalion celebrates finally finishing work for 2016
[23:39:56] <Deucalion> ~weather
[23:39:57] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 46°F / 8°C, mostly cloudy, wind SW at 8 mph, humidity 92% - Saturday mostly cloudy (43°F:47°F / 6°C:8°C), Sunday rain (35°F:46°F / 2°C:8°C), Monday sunny (29°F:41°F / -2°C:5°C), Tuesday sunny (35°F:43°F / 2°C:6°C)
[23:40:25] <charon> congrats Deucalion. happy new year
[23:41:00] <Deucalion> Thanks charon - not quite new year yet, but I'll take it 20 minutes early :D
[23:41:10] <Deucalion> same to you btw
[23:41:30] <charon> thank you. mine still has 5 hours to go
[23:41:42] <charon> enough time for a couple beers
[23:42:53] <Deucalion> Can't say I'll be sad to see the back of 2016.... I shall be shooting it in the rear with champagne corks as it departs :D
[23:45:25] <charon> i'm a little scared of 2017. can we take a break before heading right in?
[23:46:23] <Deucalion> sure... just go paddle your canoe around for a while on the river, feel free to arrange a time limbo
[23:47:54] <nick> g'day Deucalion
[23:48:15] <Deucalion> g'day nick how's things with you good sir?
[23:51:13] <nick> can't complain, trying to relax
[23:53:06] <nick> all the best for 2017 Deucalion :)