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[07:21:12] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, 30°C/86°F, 6:21 pm AEDT, Monday, 19 December 2016
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[08:27:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Backdoor in Skype for Mac OS X - http://sylnt.us - can-you-hear-me-now?
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[12:32:55] <jasassin> got a letter from my credit card company since i havent used it in like 2 years
[12:32:57] <jasassin> holy shit
[12:33:00] <jasassin> this is fucked up
[12:33:29] <jasassin> in huge letters the first thing is says is like an ex girlfriend with multiple personality disorder:
[12:33:32] <jasassin> Jason,
[12:33:32] <jasassin> we want you back.
[12:33:44] <jasassin> creepy shit
[12:35:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> Here's how to read that: "Jason: We want (the ability to skim a portion of) you(r income) back."
[12:37:49] <jasassin> no shit
[12:37:54] <jasassin> and get this shit andy
[12:38:17] <jasassin> they send me an email that says my account has been used fraudently or some suspcicious activity but dont worry nothing has been charged
[12:39:15] <jasassin> they are pulling out all the stops
[12:40:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> you gonna close the account?
[12:40:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> that's what I'd do
[12:40:21] <jasassin> well i have to make any purchage by jan 5th
[12:40:23] <jasassin> or it closes
[12:40:33] <jasassin> i really do like the option of having a credit card if i need one
[12:40:37] <jasassin> but i dont really have the funds
[12:40:41] <jasassin> i am unemployed
[12:40:45] <jasassin> i dont want to fuck myself in the ass
[12:40:47] <jasassin> fuck it
[12:40:50] <jasassin> live without
[12:40:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> find a vending machine with a swiper on it
[12:41:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> buy a candy bar
[12:41:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> pay off card a couple of days later (after all the settlement bullshit works it way through the system)
[12:41:28] <jasassin> meh just buy a pack of 25 cent gum from lewis drug nah... lewis might let you do it
[12:41:30] <jasassin> but most wont
[12:41:39] <jasassin> most places you can only use a card for like 5 dollars ore more
[12:42:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> I can buy a can of soda at the vending at work; 65 cents for the soda and 10 cent fee for using a card.
[12:42:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> Or I can buy a bottle of soda; $1.25 for the bottle plus the same fee.
[12:44:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think the candy-and-snacks machine has the same swiper on it; but if I'm going to get that sort of things, I usually take a walk out to one of the nearby stores.
[12:45:38] <jasassin> hmmmm
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[13:11:38] <jasassin> !fightctrl
[13:13:05] <jasassin> #fite tamtrist
[13:13:05] * MrPlow #fite looks around but doesn't see tamtrist
[13:13:10] <jasassin> #fite Tamtrist
[13:13:10] * MrPlow #fite looks around but doesn't see Tamtrist
[13:13:16] <jasassin> #fite Tramtrist
[13:13:16] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:13:31] <MrPlow> #fite Tramtrist falls broken at jasassin's feet.
[13:13:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> I thought it was # instead of !?
[13:14:27] <jasassin> i was looking for the command to show the link to the scoreboards i shouldbook mark the thing
[13:14:31] <jasassin> but i always forget
[13:15:42] <jasassin> #fightctl showboard
[13:15:49] <jasassin> #fightctl showscoreboard
[13:15:56] <jasassin> !fightctl showscoreboard
[13:16:00] <jasassin> !fightctl showboard
[13:16:03] <jasassin> meh
[13:16:05] <jasassin> can't remember
[13:16:24] <jasassin> #fightctl scoreboard
[13:16:51] <chromas> #fitectl scoreboard
[13:16:51] <MrPlow> #fite scoreboard updated: https://sylnt.us
[13:17:16] <jasassin> whats wrong with it?
[13:17:19] <chromas> :D
[13:17:21] <jasassin> is it fucking busted or is just me?
[13:18:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> maybe it's only responding to commands in #fite?
[13:18:05] <jasassin> i think chromas busted it
[13:18:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather Clearwater, FL
[13:18:11] <MrPlow> Today: Partly cloudy this morning, then becoming cloudy during the afternoon. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High near 80F. Winds light and variable. Tomorrow: Cloudy skies. High 74F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph.
[13:18:26] <jasassin> #weather ibaraki japan
[13:18:26] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[13:18:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> #roll 3d1000
[13:18:32] <MrPlow> pass 1: 2510
[13:18:32] <chromas> it should but I think tmb went on vacation
[13:18:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> #roll 1000d1000
[13:18:45] <MrPlow> pass 1: 508033
[13:18:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> dammit
[13:19:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> #roll 99999d10000
[13:19:03] <MrPlow> chromas, is that you? stop being a wiseass.
[13:19:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> there it is.
[13:19:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> #blame
[13:19:31] <jasassin> told ya
[13:19:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> !blame
[13:19:35] <jasassin> he busted it
[13:19:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> one of the bots has a "blame" function
[13:19:49] <chromas> ~blame ijdf
[13:19:50] * exec points at Bytram
[13:20:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> there it is; it always points at Bytram.
[13:20:07] <chromas> s/f/l/
[13:20:08] <exec> <chromas> ~blame ijdl
[13:20:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~blame wasd
[13:20:27] * exec points at Bytram
[13:20:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~blame qwerty
[13:20:33] * exec points at Bytram
[13:20:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> see? always Bytram.
[13:20:41] <chromas> ~blame Bytram
[13:20:42] * exec points at Bytram
[13:20:47] <jasassin> now instead of seeing how awesome i am on the scoreboard a gotta a goddamn video of some sjw bulldike!
[13:20:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> $burrito chromas
[13:20:50] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at chromas
[13:20:51] <chromas> hah, now it listened
[13:20:52] <jasassin> thanks alot ya fucking douche
[13:21:32] * chromas blames FatPhil for the short list
[13:23:47] * chromas removed the vidya
[13:33:52] <jasassin> what a callosal waste of time i downloaded the chromium source under fc25... compiled the whole thing and it just: #56 0x7f82d0dc7401 __libc_start_main
[13:33:52] <jasassin> #57 0x56175d59c245 <unknown>
[13:33:52] <jasassin> Aborted (core dumped)
[13:34:21] <jasassin> took all day to compile that on my shitty e2180
[13:34:29] <jasassin> wont even run :(
[13:45:31] <chromas> D'you have enough ramobytes?
[13:57:33] <jasassin> ps
[14:00:32] <jasassin> chromas: nope
[14:00:36] <jasassin> bummer
[14:00:40] <jasassin> oh well
[14:00:46] <jasassin> it was a fun experiment
[14:01:04] <chromas> maybe if you increase swap space
[14:01:17] <jasassin> hehehhe funny you say that i got it set to 4
[14:01:23] <chromas> or disable whole-program optimizations. I think that's the memory hog
[14:01:25] <jasassin> i tried gdb chrome right now
[14:01:27] <jasassin> hly shit
[14:01:37] <jasassin> it ate up my 4 gigs and got 2 into swap before i just said fuck it
[14:01:51] <jasassin> am now doin ga swapoff -a and turning swap back on
[14:01:56] <jasassin> ack its shitting itself
[14:02:43] <chromas> you can use a file for swap
[14:03:06] <jasassin> nah already got a partition
[14:03:08] <jasassin> its cool
[14:03:24] <jasassin> would hate to go through a filesysem for swaping i even hate having swap
[14:03:30] <jasassin> i almost prefer to just have a program crash
[14:03:38] <chromas> but it's too small to satisfy the compiler
[14:03:50] <chromas> it doesn't have to be permanent
[14:06:05] <jasassin> well the chrome compiled fine
[14:06:10] <jasassin> it just crashes when it runs
[14:06:23] <jasassin> and when i do a gdb on it and then... run
[14:06:37] <jasassin> it just starts gobbling ram and shitting so i can't even really debug it oh well
[14:06:46] <jasassin> it said it wanted like 32 gigs to compile
[14:06:53] <jasassin> im like huh whatever
[14:07:01] <jasassin> it was just something to try for fun
[14:07:05] <jasassin> im going to delete it alll
[14:08:23] <chromas> try installing edge
[14:08:34] <jasassin> heh :)
[14:36:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The FCC Just Approved a Landmark New Way for Deaf People to Communicate - http://sylnt.us - shouting-is-not-the-answer
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[16:17:58] <jasassin> #fite Regurgitator
[16:17:58] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[16:18:04] <MrPlow> #fite Regurgitator falls broken at jasassin's feet.
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[17:03:50] <exec> welcome nick: Laurium, Calumet Township, MI, USA, -12°C/11°F, 12:03 pm GMT-5, Monday, 19 December 2016
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[17:31:55] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 4°C/40°F, 9:31 am GMT-8, Monday, 19 December 2016
[17:34:10] <mechanicjay> Howdy
[17:36:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Evolution Made Really Smart People Long to Be Loners - http://sylnt.us - appealing-to-a-community-of-loners
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[18:27:50] <exec> welcome janrinok: Paimpol, France, 8°C/46°F, 7:27 pm GMT+1, Monday, 19 December 2016
[19:18:11] <nick> http://breakingdefense.com
[19:18:13] <exec> └─ 13Vincent Viola At Little Big Horn: Getting To Know Trump’s Army Secretary « Breaking Defense - Defense industry news, analysis and commentary
[19:19:13] <nick> 'He moves among the New York super-rich, having bought a $114 million house near Central Park in 2013 ... He succeeded on Wall Street by applying innovative technology to trading, analyzing vast amounts of data to help humans make quick, savvy decisions — a major theme of the Pentagon tech drive known as “Third Offset Strategy.” ... And he remains closely tied to the Army, connecting troops to tech experts, giving money for veterans
[19:19:13] <nick> , and funding projects at his alma matter, West Point — “the Counter-Terrorism Center, the West Point Cyber Center, the Modern War Institute (where) I am an adjunct professor, (and) the Military History Institute,” Scales said, off the top of his head.'
[19:19:43] <nick> “He’s made his company great because of his ability to bust through bureaucracy…. Boy, does the Army need that.“
[19:27:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk Wants to be Boring - http://sylnt.us - boring-doesn't-have-to-be-boring
[19:33:06] <nick> fuck elon musk and fuck that headline
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[20:37:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> nah, musk really isn't my type.
[20:37:47] * AndyTheAbsurd an hour late with the joke.
[20:47:56] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[20:47:56] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[20:47:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> naps++
[20:47:59] <Bender> karma - naps: 55
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[23:29:25] <paulej72> been quiet here today
[23:34:17] <mechanicjay> I could bitch about Apple Dos 3.3 in order to generate some noise.
[23:34:43] <paulej72> there is a new version of ProDos
[23:36:17] <mechanicjay> I heard, I might check that out if I can get my SuperSerial card installed and get ADTpro running on my desktop.
[23:36:44] <mechanicjay> One of the programs I'm working with is based on DOS 3.3 -- don't know if it'll run on ProDos
[23:37:10] <mechanicjay> I know that it took me like 2 days or horsing around to actually be able to make a copy of a disk.
[23:39:06] <mechanicjay> IDK the whole Apple II system feels like a giant kludge.
[23:40:18] <paulej72> back in the days of floppies I would take apart the apple drives to clean the dust and dirt out of the worm drive connected to the stepper motor so that it would track proplery and read and write again
[23:41:25] <mechanicjay> I know "Easy to use" is not high on the list of features of 8-bit home micros, but the APPLE II seems needlessly difficult. Like when I try to type "CATALOG" and mis-type, how the hell do I fix it before hitting "return"?
[23:42:02] <mechanicjay> I've been going through a bunch of old disks which have been gumming up my read head -- I have a long q-tip and Rubbing Alcohol at the ready.
[23:42:24] <mechanicjay> To format a disk "INIT HELLO"
[23:42:26] <mechanicjay> really?
[23:42:27] <mechanicjay> wtf?
[23:43:38] <paulej72> it's been almost 40 years since i used a Apple Dos
[23:45:24] <mechanicjay> I'd never really used it until very recently. The only exposure to the Apple II I had was in grade school, and that was like "Here's the Orgeon Trail Disk, kid"
[23:46:09] <paulej72> I remember creating files and suing catalog.
[23:46:40] <paulej72> doing some simple programs
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[23:48:24] <exec> welcome nick: Laurium, Calumet Township, MI, USA, -5°C/23°F, 6:48 pm GMT-5, Monday, 19 December 2016
[23:50:31] <paulej72> mechanicjay: INIT name Initializes a disk, erasing all data from it and setting the startup program to 'name'.
[23:51:02] <mechanicjay> I thought Hello had some signficance, like that was automatically run
[23:51:37] <paulej72> probably if it was a apple disk it had a hello program
[23:51:40] <mechanicjay> That is my impression from like 10 minutes of annoyed searching earlier today to get something to work.
[23:51:42] <paulej72> http://www.landsnail.com
[23:51:43] <exec> └─ 13Apple II Programmer's Reference: DOS 3.3 Commands
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