#Soylent | Logs for 2016-12-17
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[00:00:44] <jasassin> paul molbadiane? the spice?
[00:02:20] <paulej72> nope just like to make up words and see what I catch
[00:02:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> he who controls the spice, controls the universe.
[00:02:43] <jasassin> paul molbadiane
[00:03:31] <jasassin> saying molbadiane is cool as long as you are not wearing a weirding module
[00:04:33] <jasassin> veripull
[00:06:19] <jasassin> nicaviragotine
[00:07:01] <jasassin> smurfapulsive
[00:07:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Child Abuse Victims Required to Sign Abuse Inquiry's Code of Conduct - http://sylnt.us - inquiries-cannot-be-stopped
[00:07:48] <jasassin> oh great, not only do they get they ass beat but now they gotta do a book report on it
[00:08:47] <jasassin> poor kid, gets her azz beat submits her essay on it, and then gets the paper back with a D-
[00:09:46] <jasassin> i just dont feel like you were paying any attention to the whooping you attempted to describe here
[00:10:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> jasassin: AMD proprietary blob driver does not like Wayland, I think.
[00:10:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> error: Detected X Server version 'XServer 1.19.0_64a' is not supported. Supported versions are X.Org 6.9 or later, up to XServer 1.10 (default:v2:x86_64:lib:XServer 1.19.0_64a:none:4.8.13-300.fc25.x86_64:)
[00:10:36] <jasassin> nah
[00:10:40] <jasassin> it wont work
[00:10:46] <jasassin> if you want to run the proprietary shit
[00:10:52] <jasassin> you'll probably need to go back to xorg like 1.3
[00:10:55] <jasassin> or 1.2
[00:10:59] <jasassin> like wheezy debian
[00:11:32] <jasassin> then you might as well use the shitty fglrx packages
[00:13:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> I may just go back to Linux Mint
[00:13:34] <jasassin> did it work under mint?
[00:13:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> it may be Linux4Plebs but usability is Job One.
[00:13:46] <jasassin> with hardware drivers?
[00:13:51] <jasassin> i mean closed source/
[00:14:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> Haven't tried this laptop with Mint yet actually
[00:14:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> but it's my go-to for "get OS installed, have OS get out of my way so I can do shit with (instead of to) my computer"
[00:14:35] <jasassin> i can't imagine a distro shipping binary catalyst drivers installed by default
[00:14:48] <jasassin> but who knows
[00:14:56] <jasassin> i have heard only good things about mint
[00:15:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think the latest versions have a "check here if you want to install free-to-use but not fully FLOSS principles compliant" checkbox during installation
[00:15:55] <jasassin> interesting....
[00:15:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> you check it and you get things like MP3 and H.264 codecs out of the box
[00:16:00] <jasassin> yes!
[00:16:34] <jasassin> i was just gonna say it sucks under fedora you have to open a terminal add the rpmfusion repos and then run a huge copy and paste command to install all the shit needed to play a fucking movie or mp3
[00:16:38] <jasassin> pretty lame
[00:17:15] <jasassin> actually extremely aggravating
[00:17:49] <jasassin> i wish they had a checkbox that says i dont give a shit about copyrights i live in whogivesashitville now install all the shit to make my movie player play EVERYTHING
[00:28:39] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: IIRC, the MP3 patents recently expired... I think I saw that in a comment on another site, recently
[00:29:14] <Bytram> wait, the patents on mp3 *playing* may have expired; on creating mp3 files, there may still be a couple that are good until early next year.
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[00:30:56] <bambi> #fite exec
[00:30:56] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:31:04] <MrPlow> #fite bambi falls broken at exec's feet.
[00:31:58] -!- bambi has quit [Client Quit]
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[00:32:43] <zombie> #fite exec
[00:32:43] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:32:51] <MrPlow> #fite zombie falls broken at exec's feet.
[00:33:13] <Bytram> #fite exec
[00:33:13] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:33:15] <MrPlow> #fite exec falls broken at Bytram's feet.
[00:33:23] <cmn32480> #fite bytram
[00:33:23] <MrPlow> #fite I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that.
[00:33:32] <cmn32480> that's bullshit
[00:33:47] <Bytram> cmn32480: do you need a hint?
[00:33:59] <cmn32480> themightybuzzard - bytram is fiteing but blacklisted from being fought.
[00:34:06] <cmn32480> #fite Bytram
[00:34:06] <MrPlow> #fite I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that.
[00:34:07] <Bytram> no, I am not blacklisted
[00:34:16] <Bytram> hmmm, maybe I am?
[00:34:20] <cmn32480> that error message says you is
[00:34:28] <Bytram> looks that way... I dunno
[00:34:39] <cmn32480> IIRC SOMEBODY asked to only fite as Bytram|fite
[00:34:51] <charon_> #bite fytram
[00:34:53] <cmn32480> who might it have been?
[00:35:00] * cmn32480 plays the jeopardy theme
[00:35:12] <cmn32480> fite charon_
[00:35:17] <cmn32480> #fite charon_
[00:35:17] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:35:18] <MrPlow> #fite charon_ falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
[00:35:18] <Bytram> so, cmn32480 with 261 hitpoints decides to attack little ol' me who has only 26 points? that sounds fair... amirite?
[00:35:29] <cmn32480> you killed my bot
[00:35:30] <charon_> he's a bully
[00:35:51] <cmn32480> who is a ty-kwan-po master
[00:36:16] * Bytram liked watching Michelle Kwan skate
[00:36:31] <Bytram> cmn32480: hagve it your way
[00:36:36] <Bytram> #fite cmn32480
[00:36:36] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:36:41] <cmn32480> lol
[00:36:53] <cmn32480> oh sure take away the source of my outrage
[00:36:58] <cmn32480> now who's the bully???
[00:36:58] <MrPlow> #fite Bytram falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
[00:37:17] <charon_> he committed suicide for you
[00:37:19] * cmn32480 is laughing
[00:37:20] <charon_> awwww
[00:37:25] <Bytram> you started it, and got upset that you could not fite me, so I obliged your request
[00:37:30] <cmn32480> thanks marty... I needed a good laugh
[00:37:31] * Bytram holds up a mirror
[00:38:20] * cmn32480 looksin it an see... nothing
[00:38:28] * cmn32480 checks for fangts
[00:38:35] * cmn32480 checks for fangs
[00:38:54] <Bytram> annnnnd, in the process I lost a level and all 26 of my hit points; cmn32480, however, gained a level and only lost only 15 hitpoints
[00:38:56] <Bytram> cmn32480: s/n/r/
[00:39:13] <Bytram> ~sedctl on
[00:39:20] <cmn32480> ~sed on
[00:39:21] <exec> sed enabled for 10#Soylent
[00:39:37] <cmn32480> actually.. you came out even.. you killed exec, and I killed you
[00:39:39] <Bytram> well, it won't work, now -- but appreciate the helping hand
[00:40:01] <Bytram> and you, otoh, came out more than even, methinks
[00:40:12] <Bytram> =)
[00:40:19] <cmn32480> i shall sacrifice myself to somone deserving later
[00:40:25] <cmn32480> maybe swiss
[00:40:34] Bytram is now known as Bytram|fite
[00:40:38] <Bytram|fite> #fite cmn32480
[00:40:38] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:40:50] <cmn32480> i'd have sac flied to you if you'ld let me
[00:41:10] <MrPlow> #fite Bytram|fite falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
[00:41:18] <cmn32480> #fite loggie
[00:41:18] * MrPlow #fite looks around but doesn't see loggie
[00:41:20] <cmn32480> #fite Loggie
[00:41:20] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:41:26] <MrPlow> #fite Loggie falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
[00:41:27] <cmn32480> #fite Regurgitator
[00:41:27] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:41:32] <cmn32480> #fite Bender
[00:41:32] <MrPlow> There's already a fight going on. Wait your turn.
[00:41:32] <MrPlow> #fite Regurgitator falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
[00:41:33] <cmn32480> #fite Bender
[00:41:33] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:41:38] <cmn32480> #fite Aphrodite
[00:41:38] <MrPlow> There's already a fight going on. Wait your turn.
[00:41:50] <MrPlow> #fite Bender falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
[00:41:50] <cmn32480> #fite Aphrodite
[00:41:50] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:41:55] <MrPlow> #fite Aphrodite falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
[00:41:57] <Bytram|fite> that tool you down 38 hit points and boosted you yet another level
[00:42:01] <Bytram|fite> s/l/k
[00:42:11] Bytram|fite is now known as Bytram
[00:42:47] * Bytram needs to be *at* work at 0600 tomorrow... won't be up too much later tonight
[00:42:59] <cmn32480> ewwwww
[00:43:09] <Bytram> happy saturday, eh?
[00:43:13] <cmn32480> we are catchign the bus to Arlington at 0630 for Wreaths Across America
[00:43:25] <cmn32480> you'll take your OT and like it
[00:44:26] <Bytram> no OT -- somehow missed out on it this year. when themgr came around looking for folks to cover shifts, I'd just finished working 6 days straight, the first of said days being 16 hours long, and I'd come down with a cold...
[00:44:41] <cmn32480> and decided to skip out
[00:44:43] <cmn32480> can't blame you
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[00:44:57] <Bytram> was too tired to realize that when she offered extra shifts, I wanted, instead, to have longer vrsion of the existing shifts I was scheduled for
[00:45:42] <Bytram> so,the best I can do, now, is that if it is busy when I am scheduled to leave, ask if I can stay later.
[00:46:28] * Bytram has mostly opening shifts and there are not THAT many early-bird customers
[00:47:00] <Bytram> cmn32480: good for you for supporting wreaths acorss america -- they do good work
[00:47:40] <cmn32480> brb.. gotta help w/ lunches
[00:48:01] <Bytram> nodnod
[00:48:06] <Bytram> afk; breaktime
[01:03:18] <Bytram> back
[01:03:24] <Bytram> and forth
[01:03:28] <Bytram> and round and round
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[01:05:12] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v charon_] by Aphrodite
[01:05:51] <charon_> stupid pingout. and the web IRC doesn't notify me. i just think everyone stopped talking
[01:06:14] <charon_> or maybe you're all talking about me in PMs
[01:06:18] <charon_> i knew it!
[01:10:36] <Bytram> (psst! He's back -- be vewy vewy quiet!)
[01:14:50] <charon_> man. just had to explain to someone on the phone why it's a bad idea to run a kerosene fired heater indoors
[01:15:35] <Bytram> good that you were there to inform 'em!
[01:17:17] <charon_> yea. she seemed to think i was joking when i said it could kill her
[01:17:31] <Bytram> face palm
[01:17:40] <Bytram> well.
[01:17:43] <Bytram> otoh
[01:17:56] <charon_> heh
[01:18:05] <Bytram> the only reason *I* know it's a bad idea is that someone else told *me*
[01:18:25] <Bytram> thanks to her asking, one holiday tragedy averted
[01:18:32] <charon_> carbon monoxide is not air
[01:18:52] <Bytram> nor is co2
[01:22:32] <charon_> mmmm, helium
[01:24:14] <Bytram> or... BOOM! Hydrogen
[01:25:13] <chromas> or oxygen
[01:25:29] <Bytram> well, I'm to be at work an hour before sunrise tomorrow -- am gonna call it an early night
[01:25:42] <charon_> enjoy
[01:25:47] <charon_> ~gnight Bytram
[01:25:52] * exec covertly reticulates a JFS volume of medium salsa for Bytram
[01:26:16] <Bytram> charon: for fun, look up a video on someone starting a barbecue in something like 9 seconds -- using liquid O2 !!
[01:26:23] <chromas> "reticulating salsa..."
[01:26:24] <Bytram> ~gnight charon_
[01:26:25] * exec deliciously inserts a crust of radioactive rubber pants into charon_
[01:26:39] <Bytram> inserts? ewww
[01:26:55] <charon_> eww indeed
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[01:27:41] <Bytram> medium salsa? I dunno about that, but a salsa medium is a dancing fortune-teller! ;)
[01:29:34] <Bytram> okay, I'll let myself out.
[01:29:36] <charon_> what do you call a dwarf fortune teller who has escaped from prison?
[01:29:37] <Bytram> !uid
[01:29:37] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6432, owned by dondusa
[01:30:13] <chromas> hillary clinton
[01:30:47] * charon_ sighs
[01:30:59] * chromas gives charon_ a small medium at large
[01:31:28] <Bytram> chromas: is that a headline for when a midget fortune teller escapes from jail?
[01:31:50] <charon_> oh, so you have uncle nutsy's book of 500 kneeslappers too?
[01:32:43] <chromas> #smakeadd a nutslapper
[01:32:43] <MrPlow> "a nutslapper" added.
[01:34:41] <Bytram> nope. saw it in a comic strip a few decades ago
[01:35:18] <chromas> Were ascii art comics ever a thing?
[01:35:39] <chromas> or ebcidic
[01:36:07] * chromas retracts that first ";"
[01:36:16] <chromas> "i"; /me can't edit
[01:37:46] <charon_> only pornographic ones
[01:38:36] <Bytram> okay, I've procrastinated enough... I'll kick myself in the am if I don't head to bed, now.
[01:38:43] <Bytram> laters... have a great night everyone!
[01:38:51] <chromas> g'night suh
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[01:56:03] <takyon> http://www.usatoday.com
[01:56:07] <exec> └─ 13Defying California, Uber won't stop self-driving cars
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[02:38:45] <cmn32480> I'm honored that you accepted my invite crutchy
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[03:30:54] <charon> https://youtu.be
[03:31:04] <exec> └─ 13World's Slowest Rube Goldberg | Field Day Presents Bob Partington - YouTube
[03:31:40] <chromas> the universe is even slower
[03:32:18] <chromas> it's a giant RNG. There's a new universe cycle each time someone rolls during DnD
[03:33:06] <charon> that's kind of depressing. the whole universe resolves to a THAC0 check?
[03:35:13] <chromas> poor guy missed his hole
[03:35:22] <charon> i know, right
[03:43:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> me waves around his +5 vorpal nunchuks
[03:43:56] <takyon> oh, if it isn't https://soylentnews.org
[03:43:58] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | You Can No Longer be Sued for Leaving Negative Reviews Online
[03:45:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[03:46:01] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | You Can No Longer be Sued for Leaving Negative Reviews Online
[03:47:21] <takyon> http://blogs.barrons.com
[03:47:22] <exec> └─ 13Advanced Micro: Jefferies Ups Estimates on ‘Ryzen,’ ‘Vega’ - Tech Trader Daily - Barrons.com
[03:47:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> i haf drunked lots and lots of irish whooskey tonight. it makes me less social
[03:47:52] <takyon> "He thinks Ryzen could help AMD get 1% o f the “performance desktop, notebook and server” market at first, and go to 3.5% in 2018, and notes AMD thinks it can get double-digit share."
[03:47:59] <takyon> HOLY SHIT, is it really that bad
[03:48:17] <takyon> I got a bottle of gentleman's jack over here, but I'm sick so I'm not drinking
[03:48:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> hang on, i gotta go find out what i drank
[03:49:20] <takyon> worse than Jameson, Jameson, or better
[03:49:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> same vein. irish whooskey.
[03:49:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> Teeling. Bad. Fucking. Ass
[03:50:10] <takyon> nice.
[03:50:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, it's nicer than many single malt socthches i've drank.
[03:51:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> and scotches too
[03:51:15] <takyon> oh, Teeling is the brand and not a misspelling of Feeling. I don't remember having it
[03:51:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> Have it. Seriously.
[03:51:53] <takyon> over here I've got the gentleman's jack and the new hibiki harmony
[03:52:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothin wrong with gentleman jack. can't speak to funky japanese stuff though.
[03:53:01] <takyon> it's different than what I remember the company putting out
[03:53:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> which?
[03:54:11] <takyon> Hibiki 12 Year Blended Whisky
[03:54:22] <takyon> they seem to have killed that and replaced it with Harmony
[03:54:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> regular jack just makes me think of sucking on a piece of half-burned kindling. it's kinda shit.
[03:54:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ewww, blended...
[03:54:45] <takyon> gentleman's jack is nothing like regular jack. and the name gives it away
[03:54:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[03:55:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> speakin of, broke into any of your bottles o booze yet?
[03:55:26] <takyon> I still have to bottle my beer, but the mead has been well broken into
[03:55:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent. how'd it turn out?
[03:56:09] <takyon> it was a success. feels like a 10-11% ABV. not carbonated because of killing it with campden tablets
[03:56:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. not sposed to be really.
[03:56:29] <takyon> although when I bottled it into half gallon mason jars it seems to have gained a small amount of fizz
[03:56:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh. must be still a bit of live yeast left. watch that for explosions.
[03:57:00] <takyon> the flavor is somewhat yeasty, because I didn't prop it like I was supposed to, but overall everyone who has tried it likes it
[03:57:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, everyone who ever tried my mead loved it. it's apparently really easy to not fuck up.
[03:57:48] <takyon> I was thinking of doing a blackberry one next. Only because ALDI is selling those shits for cheap this week.
[03:57:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> that n cider
[03:57:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh yeah?
[03:58:24] <takyon> yeah. though an AC gave me a nice recipe for a cranberry cider a few weeks ago on one of our thanksgiving articles
[03:58:29] <takyon> *cranberry mead
[03:58:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> do it. non-grape gets a really good reception cause folks dunno what it's supposed to taste like when it's really good.
[03:59:03] <takyon> hah
[03:59:15] <takyon> implying wine has any quality distinctions
[03:59:33] <takyon> anyway, I have to bottle the beer before I can start my next mead. Can I use twist-off bottles or do I have to chuck those in the bin?
[03:59:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it does but only by snobs and people who've drank mad dog 20/20
[04:00:03] <takyon> like I have more than 50 empty beer bottles, but I think I have to ditch a bunch due to some being twist off
[04:00:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can use any kinda bottle that'll hold the pressure.
[04:00:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> but if you have a bottle top sqoosher-onner you need non-twist ones.
[04:00:49] <takyon> yea
[04:00:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> otherwise it'll break the threads n put glass in your booze.
[04:01:17] <takyon> at least it will be drinkable!
[04:01:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> like never use a bottle opener on a twist-off
[04:01:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> same thing
[04:02:05] <takyon> I've never had that problem. I just use a bottle opener on everything, and never drank any glass because of it
[04:02:15] <takyon> what I was actually worried about was it not being able to cap properly
[04:02:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, me n the roomie killed a fifth of Teeling tonight. i gotta say i highly recommend it as a whiskey in general and as an irish whiskey in particular.
[04:02:49] <takyon> damn
[04:03:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, it won't cap properly on twist-offs.
[04:03:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can stuff it in wine bottles with a cork though
[04:03:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> like if you're just outa bottles
[04:04:23] <takyon> what about the mason jars
[04:04:27] <takyon> got plenty of those fuckers
[04:04:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> long as it seals
[04:04:39] <takyon> obviously carbonation will be happening since I have priming sugar
[04:04:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think you might have to move to tennessee though.
[04:05:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> or arkansas or oklahoma. any of the three should do for mason jar beer.
[04:06:24] <takyon> not sure why where you live matters
[04:06:46] <takyon> I've got so many half-gallon mason jars
[04:06:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> well you could also sell it to hipsters. as long as you do so before your brand is cool.
[04:07:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> but drinking from mason jars is kinda a thang around these parts
[04:08:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> tea especially but booze also.
[04:09:05] <takyon> I have plenty of people I can give this to
[04:09:19] <takyon> we've drank half the mead already
[04:09:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> what're you, a democrat? what's with the sharing thing?
[04:09:55] <takyon> who knows what I got for it
[04:10:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> bear with me. been watching boston legal. got denny crane on the brain.
[04:10:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> denny crane is the shat
[04:10:56] <takyon> all that shatner
[04:11:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> mad cow
[04:11:40] <takyon> you should watch black mirror. I took forever to start but wow
[04:12:08] <takyon> now netflix is dumping much more of it on the world
[04:13:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> i thought about it but couldn't get into the premise
[04:13:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly it's been comic book shows or nothing for me lately
[04:14:23] <takyon> I guess you've watched Luke Cage, Daredevil et al already then
[04:14:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> lurved luke kage and daredevil, couldn't get into jessica jones
[04:14:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> not even with the doctor in it
[04:15:08] <takyon> well that's getting a second season, so brace yourself
[04:15:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'okay. i don't hate on it just can't hug n squeeze it.
[04:15:39] <takyon> https://en.wikipedia.org
[04:15:40] <exec> └─ 13List of Marvel Cinematic Universe television series - Wikipedia
[04:15:47] <takyon> there's the master list of all that stuff
[04:16:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> whatzit... iron fist... i can't feel that yet either though i do got a thang for punisher shows.
[04:16:19] <takyon> Iron Fist in 3 months. Sounds weird to me but whadda I know. Not much
[04:17:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> now the defenders, that's had a wide n varied membership.
[04:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> including like ghost rider n such.
[04:17:33] <takyon> they threw a Ghost Rider in the Agents of SHIELD show
[04:17:41] <takyon> I guess that's a spoiler, but whatever
[04:17:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, saw that though shield is getting kinda meh lately
[04:18:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dunno what it needs. mostly to quit depending on other titles for its storyline i guess.
[04:19:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ghost rider could fly i think.
[04:19:29] <takyon> literally!
[04:19:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed
[04:19:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> already got the chains going
[04:20:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't watched the last 2-3. been just kinda bleh on the franchise. prolly get em during the boredom stretch of the new year.
[04:21:31] <takyon> what is the constitution made of? sheepskin?
[04:21:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly like linen or something
[04:22:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> though you'd think it's an etch-a-sketch lately
[04:22:30] <takyon> heehee
[04:23:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway. it's an hour n a half past my drunken bedtime. gonna go grab a smoke then pass out.
[04:23:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> luck to your beer.
[04:25:32] <takyon> thanks
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[05:36:50] <crutchy> cmn32480, invite?
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[07:33:59] <jasassin> #fite poutine
[07:33:59] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[07:34:05] <MrPlow> #fite jasassin falls broken at poutine's feet.
[07:34:28] <jasassin> fackin shit man, somebody throw me a fuggin bone
[07:36:32] * crutchy throws tama's boner at jasassin
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[09:49:27] <FatPhil> cock goes where?
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[09:51:27] <exec> welcome janrinok: Paimpol, France, 8°C/47°F, 10:51 am GMT+1, Saturday, 17 December 2016
[10:12:54] <FatPhil> ~submit http://www.bbc.co.uk
[10:12:57] <exec> └─ 13Uber defies demand to cease self-driving - BBC News
[10:13:28] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[10:31:34] <chromas> I think https://irc.sylnt.us is brokeded
[10:37:43] <FatPhil> invalid certificate for me
[10:38:07] <FatPhil> then: Mail admins login here to administer your domain.
[10:45:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - $300 Device Can Steal Mac FileVault2 Passwords - http://sylnt.us - they-said-it-couldn't-be-done
[11:09:32] <chromas> Looks like it's chat.soylentnews.org
[11:09:51] <chromas> using irc.that or either third-level for sylnt.us goes to email
[11:10:06] * chromas smakes the sysadmins
[11:31:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> yer stuck with it being broke for now. i'm still good and drunk from all the booze last night.
[11:33:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> and also, i'm going back to bed.
[11:37:57] * cmn32480 passes TheMightyBuzzard something good and greasy to soak up the booze
[11:39:25] <paulej72> ?? a rear end from a 57 chevy bellair?
[11:41:42] <cmn32480> sure why not
[11:42:03] * cmn32480 gets the SN forklift
[11:42:41] <cmn32480> crutchy - that was you that I connected with on linkedin, was it not?
[11:42:52] <cmn32480> if it wasn't, somebody is using your name and email address
[11:43:31] <cmn32480> coffee++
[11:43:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3089
[11:44:24] * cmn32480 cracks his knuckles and decides to get this test upgrade done in a documented fashion so as to make it reproducable on the production system
[11:44:27] <crutchy> oh yeah i did do something in linkedin today
[11:44:34] <crutchy> had nfi what it was though :p
[11:44:39] <cmn32480> lol
[11:45:07] <crutchy> now you know my secret identity o.O
[11:45:11] <cmn32480> it's ok.. I'll use you as a jerb reference.. they won't call taht far away
[11:45:17] <crutchy> haha
[11:55:55] <cmn32480> no wonder everythign looked so damn big.. I forgot we were tesing the edge cases on Windows where a user sets everythgin to 150%... set back to stuff a normal person can see, this ought to be a lot easier!
[12:00:11] <cmn32480> and I'm already distracted by somethign shiny
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[13:02:03] * cmn32480 realizes that he is spoiled af at work
[13:02:44] <cmn32480> I'm doing some stuff from the house, and I find myself wishing for my third monitor from the office... I am such an ungreatful little shit
[13:34:36] <crutchy> ~time
[13:34:38] <exec> Sunday, 18 December 2016 @ 12:34 am AEDT - Melbourne VIC
[13:34:42] <crutchy> ergh..
[13:34:48] <crutchy> ~g'night #soylent
[13:34:50] * exec irresponsibly violates a sockful of male privilege with #soylent
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[13:37:24] <chromas> cmn32480: you have an extra port for the tv?
[13:37:51] <cmn32480> I ahve 4 HDMI ports...
[13:38:07] <cmn32480> but the current spate of monitors that I have around don't have those
[13:38:11] <cmn32480> and the TV is currently in use
[13:38:41] <chromas> does it have pip? make the family get the small picture >:)
[13:38:54] * cmn32480 is considering putting in his old GT6800 to get the extra ports
[13:39:54] <cmn32480> or I could quit being a whiny bitch and just deal with it
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[13:46:05] <exec> welcome nick: Laurium, Calumet Township, MI, USA, -12°C/11°F, 8:46 am GMT-5, Saturday, 17 December 2016
[13:47:13] <janrinok> ~gday nick - I'm just waking up from my afternoon nap!
[13:47:15] * exec sardonically cropdusts a recycle bin of iron filings over nick
[13:47:38] <nick> ahoy janrinok
[13:47:47] <nick> is not like you to have a nap?!
[13:48:01] <nick> tmb's influence is showing...
[13:48:07] <janrinok> it's one of the things that I do well
[13:49:13] <nick> how are things for you?
[13:49:45] <janrinok> not bad thanks, nice mild weather and nearly on top of Christmas preparations ... nearly
[13:53:36] <janrinok> looks like you gone from the far south to pretty far north in the Americas
[13:54:22] <nick> as far north as you can get without being in canada really
[13:54:43] * cmn32480 wonders if nick hears frozen banjos
[13:54:43] <janrinok> yup, just looking at Google Maps - can almost pick out where you live!
[13:55:31] <nick> definitely do not live, just visiting.
[13:56:06] <janrinok> do you prefer Nina's or Toni's Country Kitchen to eat?
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[13:56:46] <nick> i've been getting some pretty awesome home cooked food since i've been here
[13:56:55] <nick> although perhaps not enough bacon and maple syrup
[13:57:06] <janrinok> lol
[13:58:14] <janrinok> Population 1950 - better get that changed to 1951 for a while
[13:58:18] <nick> got to make the most of the american cuisine on offer, things are much more limited in SA
[13:58:52] <nick> even up here in the middle of nowhere, more choices of bad(good) food
[14:00:47] * nick eats doughnuts for breakfast
[14:01:02] <janrinok> doughnuts plural, I note ...
[14:01:38] <nick> in my defence, they're mini-doughnuts
[14:02:21] <cmn32480> munchkins?
[14:03:08] <nick> 'mrs freshley's' apparently.... not bad for $1.29
[14:03:24] * FatPhil is pleased to see that you're on doughnuts made of dough, rather than donuts made of do!
[14:03:31] <nick> and they're actually small, not like the american version of small like you get with soda or fries
[14:03:45] <cmn32480> lol
[14:06:07] <nick> not that i
[14:06:12] <nick> i'm complaining
[14:06:16] <nick> just clarifying
[14:06:24] <cmn32480> no complaint was registered
[14:06:34] <cmn32480> but we've noted that we are all gluttonous
[14:07:12] <cmn32480> and I am ratehr in agreement that a small ought to be a large in most cases, and a large ought to be transported via tanker truck in many establishments
[14:07:48] <nick> i got a large BK soda the other day, was a daunting task
[14:08:06] <cmn32480> that is one that ought to come with it's own taker truck
[14:08:19] <nick> agreed, i remember them from years ago, they don
[14:08:22] <cmn32480> they are like 44oz or soemthign rediculous
[14:08:24] <nick> don't seem to have gotten smaller
[14:08:32] * nick is still getting used to this laptop keyboard
[14:09:03] <nick> it was enough to share and both people to be adequately refreshed whilst eating a salt heavy meal
[14:13:42] <cmn32480> web says 40oz currently
[14:14:49] <nick> and yet in the UK, buy a 500ml bottle of coke and it says "two servings of 250ml"
[14:15:27] <cmn32480> I'm sure that 40oz is 4 servings
[14:16:02] <nick> and yet it comes with a meal for one...
[14:16:45] <cmn32480> but you are only supposed to drink one serving at the meal
[14:16:58] <nick> which is obviously why they offer free refills
[14:17:05] <cmn32480> yep
[14:17:13] <cmn32480> 80oz of soda is a freaking lot
[14:18:32] <nick> free refills is something as a british person, i can't really accept as a thing
[14:19:27] <cmn32480> new and different concept?
[14:20:09] <nick> 'if you wanted more you should have bought the larger size' mentality partly
[14:20:59] <nick> and a thought in the back of my mind that in the UK at least, restaurants often make their profit on the beverages not the food, that's where actual margin is.
[14:21:24] <cmn32480> beverages are the cheap part
[14:21:36] <cmn32480> that large Coke runs about 10 cents if I recall correctly
[14:21:59] <cmn32480> so even if you get a refill, youpaid $150 for it, adn the margin is still pretty
[14:22:01] <cmn32480> good
[14:22:10] <cmn32480> brewed coffee is even cheaper
[14:22:32] <cmn32480> place I used to work it was about 4 cents plus the cost of the cup
[14:22:33] <nick> for sure, it's not like i have a problem with it, but my british politeness precludes me from taking advantage of it.
[14:23:03] <nick> i might have mentioned before, the whole american customer service thing really puts me off balance
[14:23:04] <cmn32480> coffee profit margins we like $1.40/cup
[14:23:28] <cmn32480> as in the lack of it? or too much of it?
[14:23:49] <nick> too much of it, people are too friendly and happy
[14:24:17] <cmn32480> lol
[14:24:32] <cmn32480> all you Brits are stallwart reserved curmudgeonly individuals?
[14:25:04] <nick> mutual contempt but tolerating it, we both have better places to be and would rather not be interacting, so lets get this done and move on with our lives
[14:25:32] <nick> none of this 'have a great day' 'you're welcome' and all the other pleasantries
[14:25:50] <cmn32480> it is an interesting perspective
[14:26:00] <cmn32480> for us that is all standard
[14:27:07] <nick> in the UK the average is a 'hi' from the staff serving you at the start and a 'thanks' from the customer at the end
[14:27:37] <nick> but the same happens to me when i'm outside london, suddenly people working in stores or fast food places start talking to you and it always catches me off guard
[14:28:31] <cmn32480> ok
[14:28:39] <cmn32480> so it is more a London/city dweller thing
[14:29:09] <nick> yeah, i think so. 'time is money, my car is probably about to be towed' kind of attitude
[14:30:07] <nick> and also i just don't expect someone making less than a living wage to be happy and cheerful about working in a shithole
[14:30:07] <cmn32480> the city vs suburbs thing I think I woudl ggree with
[14:30:24] <cmn32480> and making $$ of tips you mean?
[14:30:34] <nick> UK doesn't have a tipping culture
[14:30:42] <cmn32480> US does
[14:31:29] <nick> yeah, i appreciate it's different... just my default disposition... i know how much fast food workers earn in London, and I know how much it costs to live
[14:31:38] <cmn32480> but with tips, as a bartender, I was able to work 3 nights a week, and make really good $$
[14:31:51] <cmn32480> fast food is a different gig
[14:31:59] <cmn32480> they are not tipped here either
[14:32:07] <nick> i worked in a restaurant for about 3 months, although it was mostly in the kitchen, i did serve food too
[14:32:12] <nick> i got tipped twice
[14:32:29] <nick> and one of those was from an american family who made me really work for it
[14:33:21] <cmn32480> but ti was a tip on top of your living wage
[14:33:53] <nick> minimum wage, but it was also my first job
[14:34:29] <cmn32480> see here, the waitstaff/bartenders etc. have a differnt minimum wage than everybody else
[14:34:45] <cmn32480> regular mw is like $7.50 (roughly)
[14:34:51] <nick> but i still ended up taking a pay cut on my next job, because the first job was minimum wage for someone over 18, but i was 16 at the time
[14:34:58] <cmn32480> tipped workers, it is more like $3.00
[14:35:28] <nick> so i lost about $1 an hour by getting a better job, and then i ended up spending more than i earned on travel for that job
[14:35:39] <cmn32480> that isn't good
[14:35:52] <nick> but it did put me on the path to where I am now, so it was worth it in the end
[14:36:35] <FatPhil> #fitectl armor </td></tr></table></body><--
[14:36:35] <MrPlow> #fite armor for FatPhil set to </td></tr></table></body><--.
[14:36:50] <cmn32480> #fite Regurgitator
[14:36:50] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[14:36:55] <MrPlow> #fite Regurgitator falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
[14:37:08] <cmn32480> I was a bartender/barback to put myself through college
[14:37:31] <cmn32480> made good $$ doing it
[14:37:42] <nick> 10 years from $6/hr to $60/hr is not bad progress i'd think.
[14:38:01] <nick> yeah, i've heard good stories about bartending work in the US
[14:38:02] <cmn32480> agreed
[14:38:12] <cmn32480> depends where you work
[14:38:25] <cmn32480> the 2 places I worked were busy on Thursday-Saturday
[14:39:11] <nick> it's certainly not a job for me, even with tips
[14:39:24] <nick> i absolutely hated working out on the floor and dealing with customers
[14:39:43] <cmn32480> the money can be really good...
[14:40:11] <cmn32480> I had a couple nights where I would work a 12 hour shit and walk out around $100/hour after taxes
[14:40:22] <nick> i'd rather work on a construction site so i can go tell people to fuck themselves if they piss me off
[14:41:02] <nick> that's some good earning
[14:41:42] <cmn32480> it was rare...
[14:41:59] <cmn32480> and those nights were a helluva lot of work
[14:43:10] <nick> yeah, even with that kind of payday, it's a hard sell for me... but it's good that the world is made up of different people who are skilled and enjoy that sort of work
[14:43:37] <cmn32480> if that paybay had been more regular, I might still be doing it
[14:43:40] <nick> i really respect and appreciate how much work goes into those kinds of jobs
[14:44:12] <cmn32480> one of those nights we sold $40,000 in bottled beer
[14:44:34] <cmn32480> happy hour started at 2pm... we closed at 1am...
[14:44:52] <cmn32480> I ahve never moved so many bottles in my life
[14:45:07] <cmn32480> 'course, this is back when I could carry a full keg in each hand
[14:46:16] <nick> well, if i ever start up a beach bar somewhere, i'll give you a call ;)
[14:46:24] <cmn32480> excellent
[14:46:27] <cmn32480> I'm in
[14:55:43] * cmn32480 decides to go lie down for a bit
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[16:27:20] * cmn32480 wishes he could do that everyday
[16:28:16] <cmn32480> naps++
[16:28:16] <Bender> karma - naps: 54
[16:54:03] <FatPhil> I've upped my game - up yours!
[16:54:25] <cmn32480> yer not really my type, but thanks
[16:55:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Twitter Cuts Off Spies' Access to Search Tool... Again? - http://sylnt.us - there-is-no-privacy
[17:16:20] <FatPhil> schnapps++
[17:16:20] <Bender> karma - schnapps: 1
[17:17:11] <FatPhil> shitty-beer--
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[18:12:58] <jasassin> oh le oh le oh le potatoes oh le
[18:13:30] <jasassin> #fite u
[18:13:30] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[18:13:54] <MrPlow> #fite u falls broken at jasassin's feet.
[18:14:02] <jasassin> i am god now
[18:14:13] <jasassin> potatoe oles
[18:26:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Piracy on the Open Sea? - http://sylnt.us - molon-labe
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[18:26:35] <exec> welcome nick: Laurium, Calumet Township, MI, USA, -13°C/9°F, 1:26 pm GMT-5, Saturday, 17 December 2016
[18:41:41] <jasassin> oh le oh le oh le potatoes oh le
[18:42:24] <jasassin> ~weather
[18:42:24] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[18:42:33] <Fnord666> #fite jasassin
[18:42:33] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
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[18:42:44] <MrPlow> #fite jasassin falls broken at Fnord666's feet.
[18:42:59] <Fnord666> puny god
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[18:44:19] <jasassin> dont blame me for trying
[18:44:37] <Fnord666> :-)
[18:45:29] <Fnord666> coffee++
[18:45:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3090
[18:46:20] <jasassin> #fite Pigeonburger
[18:46:20] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[18:46:20] <MrPlow> #fite How can you fight when you're dead? Try again tomorrow.
[18:46:36] <jasassin> senator rod blegoyavich
[18:46:42] <jasassin> snaked once again
[18:47:25] <jasassin> everywhere i walk i got midget harlequins throwing rubber snakes under my feet
[18:47:42] <jasassin> swines!
[18:49:59] <jasassin> ole ole ole your're so gay so gay so gay
[18:50:12] <jasassin> i dont even like soccer but im getting into it
[18:50:24] <jasassin> these motherfuckers are getting concussions and shit
[18:51:50] <jasassin> not much on tv on saturday when ya got no channels
[18:52:15] <jasassin> then they try to tease you by showing all the shit on all the channels you can't get
[18:52:42] <jasassin> but then i look at it, and its no shit i would want to watch anyway! wtf? netflix is better blah
[18:52:55] <jasassin> only reason we got cable is for the two channels we can get anyway
[18:53:01] <jasassin> bah
[18:53:09] <jasassin> i dont' make the rules i dont wear the pants
[19:06:08] <takyon> hey
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[20:10:57] <exec> welcome nick: Laurium, Calumet Township, MI, USA, -13°C/8°F, 3:10 pm GMT-5, Saturday, 17 December 2016
[20:11:55] nick is now known as SoyGuest47520
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[20:22:38] <exec> welcome nick: Laurium, Calumet Township, MI, USA, -13°C/8°F, 3:22 pm GMT-5, Saturday, 17 December 2016
[20:33:57] <jasassin> oh great book of spells, upon whos pages dwells, secrets noone tells... awake for jasassin!
[20:36:59] <Fnord666> #fite FatPhil
[20:37:00] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[20:37:05] <MrPlow> #fite Fnord666 falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
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[21:44:18] <paulej72> is today yesterday yet. wake me up when it is
[21:47:48] <jasassin> where the fuck did monday go?
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[22:40:19] <cmn32480> WOOT!!!
[22:40:31] <cmn32480> Step 1 of the test migration is done!
[22:40:41] <cmn32480> got the old system up and running on the new server!
[22:40:51] * cmn32480 does the happy dance
[22:41:38] <paulej72> !bier cmn32480
[22:41:38] * Bender pak het gerust zelf, cmn32480
[22:41:55] <cmn32480> that's a great idea paulej72
[22:42:03] * cmn32480 goes to get a real beer
[22:43:32] <paulej72> i found some of my motivation. I put my baskets of clean clothes away and retired some old worn out unmentionables
[22:46:36] * cmn32480 says a prayer for paulej72's holy drawers
[22:51:58] -!- crutchy [crutchy!~crutchy@119.17.wmi.rzn] has joined #Soylent
[22:52:02] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, 16°C/60°F, 9:52 am AEDT, Sunday, 18 December 2016
[22:58:26] * paulej72 ponders what to have for dinner
[22:58:41] * paulej72 has very little to choose from
[22:59:14] * paulej72 dose not keep a large and vast larder
[22:59:38] <crutchy> coffee++ # vienna style
[22:59:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3091
[23:00:55] <cmn32480> !bier paulej72
[23:00:55] * Bender geeft een flesje jupiler aan paulej72
[23:01:09] <paulej72> no expresso machine or whipped cream
[23:06:58] <crutchy> i have one of those pod thingys but i dunno if there are any pods left :|
[23:08:24] <crutchy> bah only hot chocolate ones left :(
[23:10:48] <crutchy> paulej72, last week i finally figured out how to set up services for charybdis :)
[23:11:00] <crutchy> or might have been week before..
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[23:11:23] <crutchy> none of the guides on the net seem to give you all the pieces together
[23:11:30] <paulej72> and I probably forgot the same stuff you just learned
[23:11:37] <crutchy> and most of them are compile-from-source
[23:11:41] <crutchy> heh
[23:11:43] <paulej72> yeah they all suck
[23:11:53] <crutchy> apt-get ftw
[23:12:11] <paulej72> they all asume you know how to do what they are describing how to do as well
[23:35:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Uber Won't Comply With the California DMV's Demand to Obtain a Permit for "Self-Driving Cars" - http://sylnt.us - doesn't-anybody-drive-themself-anymore