#Soylent | Logs for 2016-12-15

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[00:01:59] <charon_> a note in case you weren't here when i described my own dumb mistake. if you change it, you have to leave and rejoin the channel for that setting to take effect
[00:02:45] <Fnord666> Good to know.
[00:03:26] <charon_> HA! eat it Deucalion!
[00:04:22] <charon_> he was all, "oh it's quite obvious, and you must be a fool"
[00:05:29] <Fnord666> When you think about it for a sec it does make sense though.
[00:07:17] <charon_> ain't nobody got time for thinking
[00:07:28] <Fnord666> just kidding. I do remember the conversation now and I think it could be done either way.
[00:11:31] <Bytram|hiding> nod nod -- there's no way it could know a priori that you would want to see previously ignored lines, but it should increase the buffer so that the new value is the limit for all subsequent lines are retained up to the new limit
[00:13:13] <charon_> et tu, bytram
[00:13:24] <Bytram|hiding> mare sea
[00:13:32] <charon_> then fall charon
[00:14:05] <Bytram|hiding> charon: I think I was agreeing with you there, but my wording was, admittedly, poor.
[00:14:38] <chromas> http://www.nydailynews.com
[00:14:39] <exec> └─ 13Trump considers Carly Fiorina for national intelligence director - NY Daily News
[00:14:45] <chromas> ^ maybe she'll run the NSA into the ground
[00:14:54] <cmn32480> at least in that role she won't cost HP any more jobs...
[00:15:04] <Bytram|hiding> Touche!
[00:15:15] <cmn32480> ninja'd
[00:15:16] <Fnord666> I thought Bytram|hiding was agreeing with you too.
[00:15:31] <cmn32480> nah.. he was grabbing my butt
[00:15:49] * chromas gently rubs his infinite scrollback
[00:16:04] <charon_> i see now. sorry for thinking ill of you, bytram
[00:16:05] <Fnord666> So with the NSA that would be a win-win right?
[00:16:26] <cmn32480> correct
[00:16:27] <Bytram|hiding> Fnord666: well, for us, maybe
[00:16:44] <Fnord666> cmn32480 not grabbing, just toucheing
[00:16:44] <cmn32480> for my friends that may or may not work there... not so much
[00:16:54] <charon_> who will think of the poor spooks whose lives she ruins?
[00:16:55] <Bytram|hiding> nod nod
[00:16:57] <cmn32480> Fnord666, don't be a tease
[00:17:09] <chromas> Bender: grab Fnord666
[00:17:09] <Bender> Added quote 801
[00:17:12] <Fnord666> Aw, you're no fun...
[00:18:12] <Fnord666> On the one hand yes, that would be bad. I imagine they're not paid that well anyway on GS ratings.
[00:19:33] <Fnord666> On the other hand cryptography and a lot of the math behind it was my field of study way back when and I can't even imagine the things that "they" know that we won't discover for 20 years.
[00:19:55] <Bytram|hiding> ^^^ TIL
[00:20:37] <cmn32480> til? yeah.. I'm sure their fingers are in it
[00:21:12] <cmn32480> the government is like the mafia... everybody has to get a taste
[00:21:57] <Fnord666> A poorly run, overburdened with minutiae and paperwork mafia maybe.
[00:25:45] * cmn32480 needs a new server naming convention...
[00:25:51] <cmn32480> I'm running out of Greek Letters
[00:26:09] <Bytram|hiding> cmn32480: how many have you used so far?
[00:26:14] <Fnord666> planets, but really limited.
[00:26:25] <Fnord666> constellations
[00:26:31] <cmn32480> I've got 9 left... b ut that might just get me through the next set of upgrades next year
[00:26:41] <cmn32480> I was thinking Jedi... or Transformers
[00:26:41] <Bytram|hiding> have you tried using *oth* uppercase and lowercase?
[00:26:49] <Bytram|hiding> *both*
[00:27:02] <cmn32480> when spelled in English.. they are the same
[00:27:18] <Bytram|hiding> alpha, ALPHA
[00:27:23] <Fnord666> you just have to inflect your voice right to indicate upper case.
[00:27:25] <Bytram|hiding> or... Alpha
[00:27:45] <cmn32480> as far as DNS is concerned, that is the same
[00:27:53] <Bytram|hiding> oh, okay.
[00:28:02] <cmn32480> DNS is not case sensitive
[00:28:03] <Bytram|hiding> ummm: alpha, alpha1, alpha2
[00:28:16] <cmn32480> I think I'll go with Jedi...
[00:28:17] <Fnord666> chemical elements?
[00:28:26] <cmn32480> Make the DB server Yoda and work from there
[00:28:30] <Bytram|hiding> or, you could, of course, use TWO letters: alpha-beta
[00:28:46] <cmn32480> too "Revenge of the Nerds"
[00:28:48] <Bytram|hiding> alpha-delta, alpha-gamma
[00:29:05] <cmn32480> lambda-lambda-lambda
[00:29:15] <Fnord666> What happened to the delta I used to know? - Bluto
[00:29:27] <Bytram|hiding> it... changed? ;)
[00:29:38] <cmn32480> Delta-Delta-Delta - when your girlfriend says no, tri-delta!
[00:30:04] <Fnord666> lol
[00:30:49] <Fnord666> I was just going to queue the sorority jokes in 3...2...1...
[00:30:52] <cmn32480> Alpha Sigma Alpha (ASA) - Any Sister Anytime
[00:31:28] <cmn32480> ther's a million of them
[00:31:34] <Fnord666> "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"
[00:31:35] <Bytram|hiding> don't you dare go near *my* sister!
[00:31:53] <cmn32480> -joe Biden
[00:32:37] * Bytram|hiding does not understand
[00:32:57] <Fnord666> Did you know that Dr. Pepper hurts when it spews out your nose? Just found that out. Thanks cmn32480
[00:33:00] <cmn32480> the quote from Fnord666 was Joe Biden
[00:33:11] <Bytram|hiding> oh, now I get it. thanks!
[00:33:17] <cmn32480> yes, i KNEW THAT
[00:33:26] <cmn32480> know what? Gatorade hurts worse
[00:33:44] <chromas> it's those electrolytes
[00:34:03] * cmn32480 has some life experiences that you should learn from
[00:34:26] * Bytram|hiding had that experience with milk -- very NOT fun
[00:34:56] <cmn32480> anythign with bubbles... ow
[00:35:23] * cmn32480 passes Fnord a wipe for his keyboard
[00:35:29] <chromas> Noses like to make their own bubbles
[00:36:08] * Fnord666 says thanks and starts cleaning up
[00:36:15] <Fnord666> back in a bit.
[00:38:16] <cmn32480> chromas - that's snot true!
[00:38:41] * chromas dips his finger into the bubble blower
[00:38:58] * cmn32480 waits for the monster that lives up there to bite the whole darn thing off
[00:39:03] * Bytram|hiding waits for chromas to stick it up his nose
[00:39:28] <cmn32480> credit - Shel Silverstein
[00:49:18] <charon_> welp, my day just got 1000 times shittier
[00:53:48] <SirFinkus> ooh, do tell
[00:54:11] <SirFinkus> I haven't even been in irc much lately, so I find that unlikley
[00:55:38] <cmn32480> ~blame
[00:55:39] * exec points at Bytram
[00:56:47] <Bytram|hiding> http://arstechnica.com
[00:56:49] <exec> └─ 13Ex-pharma execs charged by feds for fixing generic drug prices | Ars Technica
[00:57:10] <cmn32480> ~blame
[00:57:11] * exec points at Bytram
[00:57:22] <cmn32480> how'd things get ugly charon_?
[00:57:51] <Bytram|hiding> Why do they call it 'fixing'? They don't fix it, they break it!
[00:58:26] <charon_> for once i'm almost certain it was not bytram's fault
[00:58:37] * cmn32480 checks exec
[00:58:39] <Bytram|hiding> almost certain? geesh!
[00:58:43] <Bytram|hiding> ;)
[00:58:56] <Bytram|hiding> charon_: but seriously, what happened?
[00:59:00] <exec> destination override "#soylent" set for nick "cmn32480" in "exec"
[00:59:37] <Bytram|hiding> cmn32480: is case significant? Shouldn't "#soylent" be "#Soylent" ??
[00:59:53] <cmn32480> no it isn't... but I typed it twice... so it came here
[01:00:26] <paulej72> I'm fixing shit ;)
[01:00:26] <Bytram|hiding> if case were significant, it could have been one of those bugs that'd drive ya crazy for a LONG time
[01:00:55] <cmn32480> not my bug... I just his op... Crutchy wrote him
[01:01:02] * Bytram|hiding had a brain fart this AM that took him about 30 minutes to sleuth out
[01:01:11] <Bytram|hiding> ~seen crutchy
[01:01:12] <exec> Bytram|hiding, crutchy was last seen in #Soylent 5 days, 15 hours, 31 minutes, 45 seconds ago with message: ~join #fite
[01:01:31] <Bytram|hiding> good good -- /me hasn't seen him in what seem slike forever
[01:01:43] <Bytram|hiding> s/m s/ms /
[01:01:43] <sedctl> <Bytram|hiding> good good -- /me hasn't seen him in what seems like forever
[01:01:44] <charon_> i have a nissan leaf electric car. i was charging it at work today, cord was stretched from where i parked it to the outlet in my store. somehow the box that holds the electric guts part of the cord got pulled out from under the car where it was safe, and then got run over
[01:01:45] <exec> <Bytram|hiding> good good -- /me hasn't seen him in what seems like forever
[01:01:46] <cmn32480> it's the DST thing
[01:02:03] <cmn32480> DOH!
[01:02:13] <exec> #smake exec
[01:02:13] * MrPlow smakes exec upside the head with a cinder block
[01:02:29] <charon_> appears to cost $6-700 to replace, and if i don't do it within a few days, my car is dead metal
[01:02:45] <Bytram|hiding> ouch!
[01:02:48] <cmn32480> ow
[01:02:59] <exec> #smake chromas
[01:02:59] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with clue-by-4
[01:03:31] <Bytram|hiding> I'm not familiar with that car's charging? were you suing normal line voltage to charge it? (in the USA, that'd be 110 V)
[01:03:52] <cmn32480> but if he charges it at work... it's free!
[01:04:04] <Bytram|hiding> I'm thinking, could you still charge it with a high-voltage connector -- e.g. at a charging station?
[01:04:06] <charon_> yes. it's slower, but over the course of a day, it gets about 1/3 of capacity
[01:04:47] <Bytram|hiding> I'm thinking that if you can still charge it at a charging station, then it's not completely dead-in-the-road
[01:04:59] <charon_> yeah, still could do that, but i'd have to get to one and wait for it to do the charge. even the higher speed ones take a few hours
[01:05:01] <Bytram|hiding> still far from ideal, but not totally shot
[01:05:14] <cmn32480> if he can't charge it... does it become a Ford? (Found on Road Dead)
[01:05:35] <charon_> yeah. may as well get a new cord though. i will need it eventually
[01:05:37] <Bytram|hiding> maybe a fiat? Fix It Again Tony
[01:05:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kentucky Fried Breach - http://sylnt.us - now-we-know-how-many-wings-you-eat
[01:06:25] <cmn32480> put it in neutral and push down the hill... it's a toy-ota
[01:07:17] <charon_> getting it to the top of the hill would be the tough part
[01:07:20] <SirFinkus> charon_ that sucks
[01:07:30] <SirFinkus> but at least you have a few days
[01:07:32] <cmn32480> oh sure show sympathy SirFinkus
[01:07:46] <cmn32480> this is the kind of crap credit cards were made for
[01:07:58] <charon_> i like SirFinkus. not so sure about you, cmn32480...
[01:08:07] <SirFinkus> I thought those were for starting a bar tab
[01:08:13] <cmn32480> that too
[01:08:28] <SirFinkus> cmn32480 is an asshole, avoid at all cost
[01:08:31] <cmn32480> soon as you are old enough to drink you can find out SirFinkus
[01:08:34] <SirFinkus> probably the one who broke your car
[01:09:12] <Bytram|hiding> "broke" is a transitive verb -- when your car is broke, you will soon be broke, too.
[01:09:49] <SirFinkus> look at fancy pants Bytram|hiding and his college education and bit words and shit
[01:09:54] <cmn32480> is that like a boat being a hole in the water you thorw money into?
[01:10:01] <Bytram|hiding> cmn32480: 'zactly
[01:10:11] <cmn32480> BOAT = Bust Out Another Thousand
[01:10:13] <SirFinkus> boats are fucking great
[01:10:15] <charon_> heh
[01:10:20] <SirFinkus> when you have a friend with one
[01:10:28] <SirFinkus> like pickup trucks
[01:10:50] <SirFinkus> although pickup trucks are actually pretty shitty too
[01:11:08] <SirFinkus> cargo vans are where it's at if you want to move shit
[01:11:24] <charon_> when my brother had a truck, he got all those requests from friend of a friends
[01:11:29] <cmn32480> WTF? Why is it that when I say time to get bathed adn dressed for bed, suddenly EVERYBODY in my house has to take a shit?
[01:12:07] <chromas> you said it was bath time...
[01:12:13] <SirFinkus> I always shower after I shit
[01:12:14] <Bytram|hiding> cmn32480: they have to take a shit now because, before that, they didn't give a shit?
[01:12:20] <SirFinkus> what are you, an animal?
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[01:12:35] * charon_ gets SirFinkus a bidet
[01:13:02] <charon_> merry [insertHolidayHere]
[01:13:08] <SirFinkus> what do I need that for? I have a perfectly good heel and grated shower drain
[01:14:01] <cmn32480> because butt fresness is key
[01:14:12] <Bytram|hiding> working on writing some tests; away for a bit
[01:14:21] <cmn32480> you ever have your asshole licked by a fat man in an overcoat?
[01:14:25] <cmn32480> just sayin'
[01:14:50] <cmn32480> give them all F's and be done w/ it Bytram
[01:14:51] -!- popeydoll [popeydoll!~popeidol@810-34-117-239.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #Soylent
[01:15:15] <cmn32480> and my damn VPN is sucking ass tonight
[01:22:42] <charon_> hmm, ebay has some in the $200-250 range. that's not as awful. still not pleasant
[01:36:29] <paulej72> what we bying on ebay
[01:37:53] <paulej72> Bytram|hiding: you are using the API for testing, but does that test well enough? Does it bypass too much of what we are working on?
[01:38:49] <charon_> paulej72: electric car charging cord. mine got run over in the parking lot and smashed up
[01:44:52] <paulej72> I would be careful of oness from ebay as they could be cheap knockoffs that don't have the correct gauge wire
[01:48:26] <paulej72> OK https://dev.soylentnews.org vs https://soylentnews.org #fite
[01:48:38] <exec> ├─ 13A Pressing Question: Why Did You Lurk? - Dev.SN
[01:48:38] <exec> └─ 13A Pressing Question: Why Did You Lurk? - SoylentNews
[01:48:42] <charon_> going to call my dealer tomorrow and see if they have one they could sell me
[01:49:10] <paulej72> I am sure they do, it may just cost more than anywhere else
[01:49:31] <paulej72> but you may not be able to buy it from any other reputable place
[01:49:45] <charon_> holy crow. the live version took almost 30s
[01:50:16] <chromas> it's a leaf. can't you just plug it into a currant bush?
[01:50:30] <Fnord666> At least with the ebay one if they run over the box again it won't damage a bunch of expensive electronics, just an empty box.
[01:50:45] <charon_> #smake chromas
[01:50:45] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a sockful of oranges
[01:50:56] <paulej72> yep one of the things we are fixing
[01:51:04] <charon_> the dev one around 10s
[01:51:11] <Fnord666> does it have regenerative braking?
[01:51:26] <charon_> yes, that's kind of the point
[01:51:39] <Fnord666> get AAA to tow you to the top of a hill a couple hundred times.
[01:51:50] <paulej72> take it to a rolling road and just do a bunch of breaking to charge it
[01:52:00] <chromas> it doesn't have to be uphill. just brake while they tow
[01:52:16] <charon_> you're thinking short term. i need to get a portable generator to keep in the back seat
[01:52:17] <Fnord666> what could possibly go wrong?
[01:53:39] <chromas> is the font bigger on dev or is it just my theme?
[01:54:12] <charon_> must be you, they're identical on my screen
[01:55:04] <paulej72> theme should have the same size but if you have a dark vs light one it could seem different
[01:56:47] <charon_> is there a performance benefit or hit for the poster's sig not being part of the actual post?
[01:57:37] <paulej72> should not be much. TheMightyBuzzard must have forgotten to add it to the new code
[01:57:44] <Fnord666> what are we testing? Can I break something?
[01:57:58] <charon_> is your name bytram? no it is not
[01:58:34] <paulej72> Most of rehash uses perl Template::Toolkit to display everything. It is not very efficent
[01:58:55] <paulej72> we reworte the comments code to not use templates. It makes it faster.
[01:59:11] <Fnord666> Id Bytram the official breaker of things?
[01:59:17] <Fnord666> Is
[01:59:22] <paulej72> yes
[01:59:40] * chromas notices user names are on the subject line now
[02:00:13] <paulej72> yes that is the new collapsable comment code. It is all css based
[02:00:34] <paulej72> move stuff around so that collaspsed comments are easy to read
[02:03:26] <charon_> back in a while
[02:03:56] -!- charon_ has quit [Quit: mourning the loss of my steed]
[02:17:40] * cmn32480 thinks that beating your kids once in a while ought not be illegal
[02:18:47] <cmn32480> mourning the loss of your steed?
[02:18:52] * cmn32480 suggests a vespa
[02:31:07] <charon> i live in a place that has weather. a scooter is not going to cut it
[02:32:03] <cmn32480> gore tex adn goggles
[02:32:16] <cmn32480> or... yanno... a lwn mower engine for your leaf
[02:34:22] <cmn32480> and I drive a Yaris... soi I don't ahve a lotta room to poke fun
[02:34:48] <charon> i was once a bike courier. i know about dressing for the weather. but i'm too old for that shit
[02:34:59] <cmn32480> ain't we all?
[02:35:26] <cmn32480> WOOT! new DB server is ready for testicling!
[02:36:21] <chromas> got windows 10 all patched up?
[02:36:25] <charon> Robert'); DROP TABLE students;--
[02:37:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google and Others Face EU Curbs on How They Track Users to Drive Adverts - http://sylnt.us - reining-in-the-advertisers
[02:37:17] <cmn32480> shit chromas... this is on Server 2012R2... think Windows 8 on Steroids
[02:37:39] <chromas> does it have a start button?
[02:37:59] <cmn32480> yes
[02:38:07] <cmn32480> but not a good start button
[02:39:02] <charon> any start button is better than none
[02:39:21] <chromas> oh yuck. I thought the server versions were immune to the flattening
[02:40:30] <cmn32480> nope
[02:40:53] <cmn32480> Server 2008R2 was the last one with a real start button
[02:41:00] <cmn32480> Server 2008R2 was the last one with a real start button.
[02:41:16] <cmn32480> 2012 was a straight windows 8 start thing
[02:41:47] <cmn32480> 2012R2 has at least a decent Windows 8.1 Start button
[02:42:00] <cmn32480> I imagine 2016 will look like Windows 10
[02:42:11] <cmn32480> but I haven't had the balls to pull that down and install it yet
[02:46:51] <chromas> that's what internet screenshots indicate
[02:49:49] <cmn32480> any goddamn excuse my 8 year old will find to try not to go to bed
[02:50:39] <charon> one more hug?
[02:51:01] <cmn32480> "my fan won't turn on
[02:51:03] <cmn32480> "
[02:51:11] <cmn32480> #smake my 8 year old
[02:51:11] * MrPlow smakes my 8 year old upside the head with a vegetarian's hotdog
[02:52:37] <cmn32480> i think it is that the damn thing is so clogged with dust that the motor is not turning
[02:52:52] <cmn32480> and me w/ no canned air
[02:53:44] <charon> he can have a fan when he gets a job and earns enough money to buy one
[02:54:03] <cmn32480> that thought has crossd my mind
[02:54:27] <cmn32480> of course.. so have the words "if you come out of that room again, you are going to sleep in the garage."
[02:55:37] <charon> he'll grow out of it
[02:56:41] <cmn32480> if he doesn't he's gonna be mighty uncomfortable some nights
[02:56:52] <cmn32480> but I betcha one night in the garage adn he's cured
[02:57:29] <charon> aww, he just wants to make sure you're still there
[02:57:54] <charon> we all did it as kids
[03:01:10] <cmn32480> treu
[03:14:24] <paulej72> cmn32480: if ti has that much dust not to run, it is probably at the end of life
[03:14:49] <cmn32480> dunno yet. I pulled it from the room, lest they turn it on and leave it that way
[03:15:07] <cmn32480> have to get a can of air, and a screw driver...
[03:15:16] <cmn32480> turnign the compressor on at this hour might cause problems
[03:15:58] <paulej72> just do a superman and blow real hard
[03:16:14] <cmn32480> tried that...
[03:16:19] <paulej72> what brand of fan is it
[03:16:24] <cmn32480> I can't get enough volume
[03:16:27] <cmn32480> HOneywell
[03:16:37] <paulej72> one of the better brands
[03:16:42] <charon> pour rubbing alcohol in and burn out the dust
[03:17:28] <cmn32480> if I was at work, I'd do exactly that in the warehouse
[03:17:56] <cmn32480> and of course, God only know what my son has stuck in it while it is running
[03:18:18] <paulej72> ususally it is not the dust but rather the lube in the berrings has gone off and it is runing metal on metal
[03:19:41] <cmn32480> possible
[03:19:49] <cmn32480> I'll take it apart and see if I can fix it
[03:19:56] <paulej72> chromas: sigs fixed on dev
[03:19:58] <cmn32480> and you cna never have too much lube
[03:20:11] <charon> !grab cmn32480
[03:20:11] <Bender> Added quote 802
[03:20:16] <cmn32480> !quote lube
[03:20:17] <Bender> Quote 774 - <Runaway1956> You can never have to much lube though, right?
[03:20:21] <Bender> Also in quotes: 802
[03:20:34] <cmn32480> hmmm i"m surprised it is that few
[03:21:17] <paulej72> but they are almost identical
[03:21:35] <charon> so cmn32480 is boring and unoriginal
[03:21:44] <paulej72> lol
[03:21:49] <cmn32480> !grab charon
[03:21:49] <Bender> Added quote 803
[03:22:02] <cmn32480> and I'm also preserved for posterity
[03:22:25] * chromas preserves cmn32480's posterior
[03:22:43] <cmn32480> don't make an ass out of yourself charon
[03:23:01] <charon> you mean chromas?
[03:23:33] <chromas> nah, I'll take the credit when he gives a compliment
[03:23:51] <cmn32480> yeah... whatever
[03:24:00] <cmn32480> they both start with ch
[03:24:22] <charon> i guess i have to change my nick to norahc
[03:24:47] <chromas> /nick 💩
[03:25:09] <paulej72> I'll impose my rule again and make some of you change your nick. I got Bytram to change his because we had too many m* on staff
[03:26:56] chromas is now known as z
[03:27:06] <cmn32480> that logic is a fail.. chromas isn't staff
[03:27:18] * charon looks at z and is reminded of sleep
[03:27:36] <cmn32480> good plan
[03:27:58] * cmn32480 decides that si a good course of action
[03:28:08] <paulej72> Yes I need to do the same
[03:28:16] <cmn32480> swtupid jobs
[03:28:32] <charon> do you need a cup of water? and a hug? and did you find your favorite animal?
[03:28:57] <cmn32480> #smake charon
[03:28:57] * MrPlow smakes charon upside the head with glee
[03:29:08] <cmn32480> but if you wanna cuddle... the wife is away
[03:29:18] <cmn32480> just be gone before she gets home
[03:29:29] <charon> yehaw
[03:29:33] z is now known as |
[03:30:17] <charon> go all the way to a barcode nick: |ll|||l|ll|llll||l||
[03:30:43] * cmn32480 whipsout his scanner to see that your format is invalid
[03:31:54] <SirFinkus> lol
[03:32:00] <SirFinkus> you needed a scanner
[03:32:17] <charon> of course he has one with him all the time
[03:32:49] <cmn32480> it's what I do
[03:32:51] <SirFinkus> yeah, because he can't just read them
[03:32:54] <cmn32480> anyway
[03:32:58] <cmn32480> night fellas
[03:33:01] <cmn32480> I'm off to bed
[03:33:05] <charon> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:33:05] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[03:33:07] * exec romantically blows a boot of cold pizza at cmn32480
[03:33:07] * exec sexually merges a keg of dark humor with #soylent
[03:33:10] <cmn32480> ~gngiht charon
[03:33:20] <cmn32480> ~gnight charon
[03:33:21] <SirFinkus> night
[03:33:22] * exec allegedly stuffs a doubly-linked list of pain and suffering into charon
[03:33:32] <cmn32480> I won
[03:33:37] <charon> no doubt about who wins that one
[03:33:53] <cmn32480> see you tomorrow
[03:33:58] <charon> sleep well
[04:06:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Approval for Three-Parent Embryo Trials - http://sylnt.us - hello,-ma,-ma-and-pa
[05:38:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Can You Bounce Water Balloons Off a Bed of Nails? Yes, Says New Study - http://sylnt.us - try-this-at-home
[07:07:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Multi-Material 3D Printer Squirts Out Homemade Electronic Circuits - http://sylnt.us - can-it-build-itself?
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[08:45:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - OpenStreetView? You are No Longer Hostage to Google's Car-Driven Vision - http://sylnt.us - Waiting-for-Open-Panopticon
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[09:40:24] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, 16°C/60°F, 8:40 pm AEDT, Thursday, 15 December 2016
[09:41:43] <crutchy> ~define yolo
[09:41:44] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03Yolo: Abbreviation for: you only live once The dumbass's excuse for something stupid that they did Also one of the most annoying abbreviations ever....
[10:04:40] <chromas> on par with froyo
[10:18:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Yahoo! Discloses Second Hack of More Than a Billion Accounts - http://sylnt.us - who-is-next?
[10:30:48] <xhedit> yolo swaggins is a dank ass meme
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[11:29:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Aphrodite
[11:29:58] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:30:35] <MrPlow> #fite Aphrodite falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[11:30:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite aqu4
[11:30:36] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:30:49] <MrPlow> #fite aqu4 falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[11:30:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Bender
[11:30:50] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:30:55] <MrPlow> #fite Bender falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[11:30:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite exec
[11:30:56] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:30:58] <MrPlow> #fite exec falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[11:31:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Loggie
[11:31:01] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:31:15] <MrPlow> #fite Loggie falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[11:31:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite MrPlow
[11:31:16] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:31:19] <MrPlow> #fite MrPlow falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[11:31:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Regurgitator
[11:31:20] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:31:41] <MrPlow> #fite Regurgitator falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[11:31:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite sedctl
[11:31:43] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:31:55] <MrPlow> #fite sedctl falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[11:31:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite systemd
[11:31:56] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:32:36] <MrPlow> #fite systemd falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[11:33:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Bytram|hiding
[11:33:25] * MrPlow #fite looks around but doesn't see Bytram|hiding
[11:33:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Deucalion
[11:33:42] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:33:50] <MrPlow> #fite Deucalion falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[11:34:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite xhedit
[11:34:22] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:35:32] <MrPlow> #fite xhedit falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[11:35:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite FatPhil
[11:35:39] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:36:40] <MrPlow> #fite TheMightyBuzzard falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[11:44:36] <xhedit> I got a rigol scope and i ahve no clue what i'm doing ;(
[11:45:12] <xhedit> only ever used ancient analog scopes before
[11:45:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, ditto
[11:45:40] * TheMightyBuzzard is quite oldschool when it comes to scopes
[11:45:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What’s Lurking in Your Showerhead? - http://sylnt.us - ok-that's-just-gross
[11:55:12] <boru> The Rigol UI is a bit gimped an unintuitive.
[11:55:34] <boru> (Compared to, say, Agilent/Keysight, R&S or Tek)
[11:55:46] <boru> Which scope did you get?
[11:56:11] <xhedit> dz1054z
[11:56:14] <xhedit> ds1054z even
[11:56:39] <xhedit> I want to make sure everything works before I fuck my warranty with hacking features in
[11:56:43] <xhedit> but that requires learning the scope heh
[11:56:58] <boru> MSO?
[11:57:05] <boru> Did you do the SKU hack yet?
[11:57:06] <xhedit> no it's just digital
[11:57:17] <xhedit> i haven't done riglol yet no
[11:57:19] <boru> Ah.
[11:57:34] <xhedit> the MSO scope is like $500 more
[11:57:42] <boru> One thing that Rigol do well is memory depth.
[11:57:48] <xhedit> yeah, that's why i got this one
[11:57:51] <boru> The memory points are quite deep.
[11:57:58] <xhedit> 24 Mpts
[11:58:07] <boru> That's upgradeable to 48 as well, right?
[11:58:30] <xhedit> it's 24 right now because it's still in trial, it will drop to 12 after and after i sku hack it go back up to 24
[11:58:39] <boru> I got a great deal on a second hand MSOX3104A, but it's a bit shy on mem depth./
[11:58:56] <boru> Then again, that's not what it's good for.
[11:59:28] <xhedit> 1 ghz, nice
[12:00:30] <boru> For digits, I have a Zeroplus LAP-F1.
[12:00:44] <boru> I traded my old LAP for the F1.
[12:01:45] <boru> I wrote some of my own decoders, naturally.
[12:01:47] <xhedit> guess i will just get one of these arduinos to poop out a function generator
[12:02:03] <boru> Aye, siggens are easy to hack together.
[12:02:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[12:02:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[12:02:39] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 260
[12:02:55] <xhedit> i just have to find some pots somewhere, i had a couple
[12:05:02] <boru> SPICE it and then go shopping on digikey.
[12:20:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> home depot has pots all over the place. we got some big ones and planted peppers in them last spring. =P
[12:24:44] <cmn32480> ~gday #soylent
[12:24:45] * exec single-candidly mixes a dong of activex plugins with #soylent
[12:25:20] <cmn32480> ~gday the
[12:25:22] * exec implicitly waves a tarball of funding at the
[12:25:23] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:25:25] * exec transphobically hangs a trigger warning sign about my butt of Microsoft Works on TheMightyBuzzard
[12:25:44] <boru> Aye, the US has some good electronics shops, too.
[12:25:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[12:25:50] * exec analiciously ships an assload of doughnuts and/or donuts with cmn32480
[12:25:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> you win
[12:26:16] * cmn32480 shares his donuts w/ #soylent
[12:30:43] <xhedit> shit, baynesville is closing ;(
[12:30:54] <xhedit> it was like walking into an early 80s electronics store
[12:33:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it's nice having big ole catalogs of parts but i liked walking the aisles
[12:34:03] <cmn32480> already gone xhedit
[12:34:11] <cmn32480> I think it was first of the month
[12:34:36] <xhedit> really wow
[12:34:51] <xhedit> surprised anyone in here even heard of them honestly
[12:35:05] <cmn32480> I live relatively nearby
[12:35:16] <cmn32480> been gonig there occassionally for about 10 years...
[12:35:33] <cmn32480> usually when you can't find the right part... or a specific plug.. they had it, or could get it
[12:35:36] <xhedit> i only found out about it in the last year
[12:35:43] <xhedit> they had like every molex connector
[12:35:51] <cmn32480> yup
[12:36:08] <cmn32480> every power plug
[12:36:34] <cmn32480> it was like walking into a large Radio Shack from the 80s
[12:37:12] <cmn32480> just aisles and aisles of parts
[12:37:18] <cmn32480> components...
[12:37:34] * cmn32480 sheds a tear for an institution
[12:37:49] <xhedit> yeah i'm sad now
[12:39:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, i don't feel like working on the LCARS theme today
[12:39:36] <cmn32480> feel free to tell me to MYOB, but you in the Baltimore metro
[12:39:44] <xhedit> nah moco
[12:40:53] <cmn32480> gotcha
[12:41:03] <chromas> I went into a radio shack a few months ago. smelled like hipster incense
[12:41:08] <chromas> crusty sock or something
[12:41:20] <xhedit> i thought it smelled like cell phones
[12:41:21] <cmn32480> you sound surprised chromas
[12:41:53] <xhedit> i hate dc though, so i try to go to balt for civilization instead
[12:42:09] <chromas> you're right. I guess they are hipsters. radio shack was going downhill before it was cool
[12:42:24] <cmn32480> wow... that's saying somethign about DC
[12:42:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, Marvel is way better
[12:42:55] <cmn32480> I'm north of Baltimore
[12:43:00] <xhedit> as bad as 695 is, it's not 495 :)
[12:43:07] <chromas> DC for the toons though
[12:43:42] * chromas acquired his opinion from a youtube comment
[12:44:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> they just need a deadpool cartoon and they could take over the world though. as like a web stream cause fuck censoring the merc with a mouth.
[12:44:33] * cmn32480 isn't so sure chromas actaulyl exists
[12:44:51] * chromas is just a social construct
[12:45:10] <chromas> Hi, I'm from the internet.
[12:45:49] <xhedit> cable and deadpool is a pretty quality comic
[12:46:05] <xhedit> if you like, read books and shiz
[12:46:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, fair.
[12:46:37] <xhedit> it's not the sandman, but nothing is
[12:47:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> sandman's just a wee bit too high-brow to be truly great.
[12:47:13] <xhedit> fuck you buddy!
[12:47:18] <chromas> #g gotham city sirens
[12:47:19] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Gotham City Sirens is an American comic book series written by Paul Dini, with art by Guillem March, and published by DC Comics. The series features some of ..."
[12:47:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i gotta have my dick n fart jokes
[12:47:23] <chromas> from the mainstream dept
[12:47:39] <chromas> #smake MrPlow
[12:47:39] * MrPlow smakes MrPlow upside the head with a microaggression
[12:47:55] <xhedit> lucifer and the invisibles are also good
[12:48:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> have i read that?
[12:48:32] <xhedit> lucifer is the (good) comic they mangled to make that shitty tv show
[12:48:39] <xhedit> the invisibles was partial inspiration for the matrix
[12:48:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know i got a lucifer graphic novel in yonder i been reading on but not sure what it's titled.
[12:48:43] <chromas> avery man
[12:49:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[12:49:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's only a mildly shitty tv show though. fuckloads better than supergirl.
[12:49:43] * chromas doesn't know comics, except sans ms
[12:50:17] <xhedit> comics turned into tv shows never seems to work unless netflix does it, for some reason
[12:50:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> that it strays horribly from the source material is unfortunate but it doesn't actually butthurt me to watch
[12:50:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, netflix pwns comic shows
[12:51:00] <chromas> they need a reason to keep people subscribing
[12:51:13] <chromas> since all their licenses keep expiring
[12:51:35] <xhedit> as long as they keep the star trek licenses I will stay subbed :P
[12:51:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> jessica jones i can't really get into but the roomie says it's well done
[12:52:07] <xhedit> luke cage is way better
[12:52:23] <chromas> miss soggy knees
[12:52:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> agreed. i'm still a daredevil guy myself though and really looking forward to some punisher
[12:52:34] <xhedit> jessica jones drags for like 6 eps then it's alright, but it's still about a broken girl
[12:53:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> iron fist i'm kinda meh about
[12:53:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> never dug his books
[12:53:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> then again, i never cared much for daredevil's either
[12:54:08] <xhedit> i like dolph's punisher movie for some reason
[12:55:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like most comic book movies. i even liked all the hulk movies.
[12:56:40] <xhedit> if you haven't seen it, check out Hulk vs Thor.. it's animated but i enjoyed it
[12:56:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> perfectly willing to admit i give them a lower bar of quality than regular movies though
[12:58:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, batman, return of the caped crusaders. if you ain't seen it and grew up watching adam west batman, you gotta watch
[13:00:44] * FatPhil hates pretty much all comic/superhero stuff.
[13:00:57] <FatPhil> kinda grew out of that when I hit puberty.
[13:01:20] <FatPhil> that includes the bible too, of course.
[13:02:48] <FatPhil> just occasionally there will be a movie which works because of its artistic merits, but they are one in a thousand. Sin City comes to mind.
[13:02:58] <boru> You missed the good parts then; Jesus Christ Returns, where he gets laser eyes after being bitten by a radioactive fish. Also where he cuts some radical glass, when he surfs on water.
[13:03:16] <FatPhil> that's a south park episode. I've seen that.
[13:03:28] <boru> It is?
[13:03:30] <FatPhil> OK, I watch south park, you got me.
[13:03:52] <boru> I don't watch much television, so I probably miss some of these references.
[13:04:30] <FatPhil> probably over a decade ago. super best friends?
[13:05:09] <FatPhil> 2001
[13:05:53] <FatPhil> Jesus promptly requires the assistance of the Super Best Friends, a group of major religious figures including Muhammad, Buddha, Moses, Joseph Smith, Krishna, Laozi and "Sea Man", an Aquaman-like character.[3] They are dedicated to defending the world against evil (except for Buddha, who "doesn't really believe in evil").
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[13:08:54] chromas is now known as Bytram|fite
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[13:19:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society - http://sylnt.us - better-than-growing-up-to-be-a-sink
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[13:59:12] <Runaway1956> #submit http://www.foxnews.com
[13:59:12] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[13:59:13] <exec> └─ 13NYPD arrests Muslim girl who claimed attack by Trump supporters | Fox News
[13:59:37] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[13:59:49] <Runaway1956> Heh - that one is almost funny - trump supporters are such hateful people
[14:00:43] <Runaway1956> This one is even funnier
[14:00:52] <Runaway1956> #submit http://www.foxnews.com
[14:00:52] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[14:00:53] <exec> └─ 13Keith Ablow: Free therapy because Trump won? | Fox News
[14:01:18] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[14:29:57] <chromas> Ray's cyst
[14:31:56] <cmn32480> Ray should get that looked at...
[14:36:16] * chromas racisses the channel
[14:36:24] <chromas> you've all been racissed
[14:37:50] <chromas> They should arrest those people doing the graffiti hoaxes, like the retarded swastikas
[14:37:54] <chromas> heil hortler
[14:40:43] <cmn32480> Is that Hortler Hears a Who?
[14:42:20] <chromas> ja
[14:56:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Asahi Buys SABMiller's Eastern European Beers for $7.8 Billion - http://sylnt.us - now-hold-your-horses-a-minute
[15:21:34] <FatPhil> Bender: s/Beers/Brands/
[15:21:34] <sedctl> <FatPhil> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Asahi Buys SABMiller's Eastern European Brands for $7.8 Billion - http://sylnt.us - now-hold-your-horses-a-minute
[15:21:37] <exec> └─ 13Asahi Buys SABMiller's Eastern European Beers for $7.8 Billion - SoylentNews
[15:21:51] <FatPhil> exec: s/Beers/Brands/
[15:21:51] <sedctl> <FatPhil> <exec> └─ 13Asahi Buys SABMiller's Eastern European Brands for $7.8 Billion - SoylentNews
[15:21:52] <exec> <FatPhil> <exec> └─ 13Asahi Buys SABMiller's Eastern European Brands for $7.8 Billion - SoylentNews
[15:22:06] <FatPhil> right
[15:24:54] <boru> Shouldn't that be beer brands? What if they make bread and umbrellas?
[15:26:37] <cmn32480> maybe they are jsut getting really drunk
[15:27:30] <boru> Umbrellas can't drink beer, silly.
[15:28:32] <cmn32480> that's why they on'y bought 7.8 Billion in Beer... they wanna get everybody drunk
[15:29:45] <boru> Are you saying this is the first step in some sort of umbrella rebellion?
[15:31:51] <cmn32480> yes
[15:32:01] <cmn32480> turn them upside down, and you have really big cups
[15:32:34] <boru> I don't mean to rain on your parade, but that seems a bit shady.
[15:34:21] <cmn32480> my vision seems a bit cloudy on the matter
[15:34:22] <FatPhil> When Hartwall went from S&N to Heineken, it included all the soft drink brands and rights, not just the beer.
[15:34:49] <FatPhil> Hands up who's insanely jacked-up on coffee currently!
[15:34:53] <FatPhil> \\o//
[15:35:47] <FatPhil> bad case of work-not-going-well syndrome
[15:36:20] <cmn32480> that usually requires beer or liquor
[15:37:55] <FatPhil> Don't worry, tomorrow will be worse, and beer will be the haven I seek respite in.
[16:08:41] <FatPhil> crikey, I'm being told to take a stress pill, and calm down
[16:08:59] <FatPhil> but I've still got one more cup of coffee in the pot!
[16:11:38] <boru> Keep going, you're so close to extra dimensional perception.
[16:14:45] <Bytram> hey guys! Am creating a new vm and installing ubuntu mate 16.04 LTS... gots a question... "[ ] Use LVM with the new Ubuntu installation -- This will set up Logical Volume Management. It allows taking snapshots and easier partition resizing."
[16:14:55] * Bytram has no idea of the implications
[16:15:27] <Bytram> any of you ever used LVM?
[16:17:15] <boru> Not worth it for a VM.
[16:17:38] <Bytram> what would it buy me if I selected it?
[16:18:13] <boru> Nothing, for a VM.
[16:18:20] <Bytram> k
[16:18:22] <Bytram> thanks!
[16:18:25] <boru> Sure thing.
[16:19:51] * Bytram is MUCH more familiar with userland unix commands (awk, sed, ls, etc.) than systems setup
[16:26:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Reports First Ever Successful Autonomous Drone Delivery - http://sylnt.us - zoom-zoom!
[16:27:03] <boru> It's all related. To truly grok a system, this is all relevant, imho.
[16:28:12] <xhedit> i've used linux for 18 years and only bothered with LVM maybe 4 times
[16:28:33] <Bytram> waaay back in the day I installed Redhat 6.02 on some celeron 400MHz boxes (even edited file to set refresh / scan stuff to handle my HUGE 1600x1200 monitor)
[16:28:42] <Bytram> x0908d3b2: very helpful to know, thanks!
[16:28:46] <Bytram> oops
[16:28:50] <Bytram> xhedit: ^^
[16:29:22] <xhedit> the main purpose is full disk crypto setups imo
[16:30:07] <Bytram> not gonna bother with that -- system performance hit is not worth the cost for me -- appreciate the perspective!
[16:39:47] <FatPhil> I've only used LVM on work laptops which have required encryption, and I think LVM was the canonical way to do that (not set up a lappy for years)
[16:40:59] <Bytram> hey, thanks for the confirmation!
[16:41:14] * Bytram continues to wait for downloads
[16:41:40] <FatPhil> Old lappies, sub-GHz ones, used to have noticeable crypto lag, but anything in the current decade has had almost negligible overhead, so I recommend it still for modern lappies.
[16:42:05] <FatPhil> I suspect there are crypo-accelerators on most modern processors.
[16:42:35] <FatPhil> s/crypo/cryo/
[16:42:35] <sedctl> <FatPhil> I suspect there are cryo-accelerators on most modern processors.
[16:42:37] <exec> <FatPhil> I suspect there are cryo-accelerators on most modern processors.
[16:42:43] <FatPhil> to bring about the next ice age quicker
[16:42:56] * Bytram is creating a VM on a core 2 duo (2.5Ghz or so max) lappy running win 7 pro -- has 6GB ram and 500 GB spinny disk
[16:43:02] <Bytram> lol
[16:45:51] <FatPhil> the VM argument stands (simply not worth doign LVM for a VM), but note that lots of RAM amortises the crypto overhead too, so you're less likely to notice it. So I suspect I'll use LVM on personal lappies when I update to this decade (my personal lappies are both 200x clunkers)
[16:48:10] <Bytram> so much appreciate the background reasoning why rather than just "do this"!!
[16:50:00] <xhedit> Intel wise, anything after Core2 should have AES-NI
[16:50:17] <xhedit> at least on the high end
[16:50:56] <xhedit> so, fine if you have an i7, not so much on an i3
[16:55:43] <Bytram> will keep that in mind; thanks!
[16:56:17] <xhedit> I should go on a long tangential info dump and see how many times bytram thanks me.
[16:56:58] <Bytram> when I set my mind to something, I can be *quite* tenacious and thorough
[16:57:59] <Bytram> btw, that gave me quite the chuckle... umm... thanks! =)
[16:58:13] * cmn32480 suggests xhedit does not persue this course of action.. as it will result in a complete brain dump and he will likely forget his name by the end
[16:58:32] <Bytram> #smake cmn32480
[16:58:32] * MrPlow smakes cmn32480 upside the head with a hornets' nest
[16:58:44] <paulej72> what who?
[16:58:50] <Bytram> Installation is complete... restarting now
[16:58:50] <cmn32480> you there!
[16:59:02] <paulej72> where?
[16:59:19] <cmn32480> great.. now he installed a local copy of paulej72... we're all screwed now!
[16:59:55] * Bytram locates the mutex and hides it in a secret place... muwahahaha!
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[17:00:11] <cmn32480> ther are only 4 horcrux's left...
[17:00:31] <paulej72> no there are 5 lights
[17:00:33] <Bytram> ~define horcrux
[17:00:34] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03Horcrux: In Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, by J.K. Rowling, a witch or wizard may use Dark Magic to divide their soul and hide it in other objects. The object then becomes a horcrux (plural: horcruxes...
[17:01:21] <FatPhil> xhedit: I did a huge jump from 32-bit to i5, and noticed overheads go from a few% to basically 0. I'm likely to be buying an old i[357]-based lappy next - knowing that i3's shittier is useful - thanks!
[17:01:24] * Bytram discovers he forgot to change boot order and is now rebooting the ubuntu install iso
[17:01:48] <FatPhil> that's why the instructions say "remove the medium"
[17:02:02] * Bytram tells the fortune teller to go away
[17:03:27] <cmn32480> ~fortune
[17:03:28] <exec> Better tried by twelve than carried by six.
[17:03:28] <exec> -- Jeff Cooper
[17:03:28] <systemd> Karma - : -1
[17:03:39] <FatPhil> ahhah!
[17:04:12] <FatPhil> exec - fix your regexp!
[17:04:16] <exec> /me goes away now
[17:04:39] <paulej72> damn can't get that right either
[17:04:49] <exec> - you untangle Bender's spaghetti code
[17:05:01] <Bytram> It's ALIVE!
[17:05:34] <FatPhil> is it possible/adviseable to have the bots identify their owner in their /whois?
[17:07:25] <FatPhil> Oooh, I missed this when it was fresh: https://scarybeastsecurity.blogspot.com.ee
[17:07:28] <Bytram> good question... if it is settable then it is spoofable - how believable would it be?
[17:08:37] <FatPhil> we have a nickserv-type thing - if it works for humans, it should work for bots
[17:08:56] <Bytram> Doh! nod nod
[17:09:57] -!- exec has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[17:10:33] * Bytram watches disk thrashing as new Ubuntu install loads up
[17:11:54] <cmn32480> stupid internets
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[17:13:13] <Bytram> as long as the internets stay stupid, humans just might have a chance against skynet
[17:13:30] <cmn32480> I just wish mine would stay connected!
[17:13:41] <Bytram> you at home or at work?
[17:13:59] <cmn32480> work
[17:14:01] <cmn32480> [Comcast
[17:14:11] <cmn32480> and that'd be why exec dropped too
[17:14:13] <Bytram> oh. say no more.
[17:14:20] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:14:47] <exec> stupid comcast
[17:16:36] <xhedit> FatPhil: i'm guessing you were clicking from the recent blog entry with the SNES music exploit but if not, you should read that too
[17:16:38] <Bytram> okay, now that I have a new Oracle VM Virtualbox install that [seems to be] up and running well, what's the best way to archive/backup/snapshot/whateveritiscalled so that i can easily restore this state in the future? (ideally by just copying a couple of files around or some such)
[17:16:48] <exec> FatPhil - just remembering all my commands is hard enough. I can't try to remember who runs me too.
[17:17:03] <Bytram> ROFL!
[17:17:26] <exec> when i doubt, blame either chromas or bytram
[17:17:47] <Bytram> ~blame
[17:17:48] * exec points at Bytram
[17:18:03] <exec> see??
[17:18:12] <Bytram> ROFLMAO!
[17:18:46] <xhedit> Bytram: virtualbox here puts stuff in "~/VirtualBox VMs"
[17:18:50] <Bytram> should I copy the VDI file somewhere? Do a "snapshot" (how would I restore it later?) suggestions?
[17:18:58] <Bytram> yep, mine too
[17:20:27] <xhedit> just saving the VDI will let you restore a state (without dealing with the somewhat annoying built in features) but for a full backup, make sure you have the config file also
[17:21:42] <Bytram> do you mean the .vbox file?
[17:21:53] <xhedit> yes.
[17:22:14] <Bytram> does it matter if the VM is currently running or not?
[17:22:22] <xhedit> yeah.
[17:22:25] <FatPhil> xhedit: I was actually coming from the latest open LWN, but the SNES exploit is sitting in a tab for reading too
[17:22:47] <Bytram> makes sense -- just confirming
[17:23:09] <cmn32480> OMFG
[17:23:20] <cmn32480> I jsut had a user come in and ask me to buy them a Mac
[17:23:36] <FatPhil> Mac & cheese?
[17:23:37] <Bytram> way back in the day, I tested updates to IBM's VM operating system -- understand the concepts but the syntax / semantics of this is stil a bit new tome
[17:23:41] <FatPhil> Big Mac?
[17:23:54] <cmn32480> as in iPhone on Steroids
[17:24:07] <FatPhil> are they still a thing?
[17:24:16] <xhedit> for hipsters
[17:24:17] * cmn32480 wipes the tears of laughter from his eyes
[17:24:31] <cmn32480> we are a Windows shop
[17:24:38] <cmn32480> our ERP doesn't even run on Mac
[17:24:39] <Bytram> lol
[17:24:49] <Bytram> bootcamp
[17:24:53] <FatPhil> it will run in a virtual machine though....
[17:24:54] <xhedit> how snowflaky was this user
[17:25:25] * Bytram looks around for a carrot, some coal, and a scarf to make a snowman
[17:25:37] * Bytram does an ACPI shutdown of his vm
[17:25:45] <cmn32480> very
[17:25:49] <FatPhil> Am I the only one who doesn't get a favicon from SN? (running Pale Moon)
[17:25:52] <cmn32480> she's Marketing!
[17:26:10] * Bytram is running PM and has a favicon
[17:27:46] <xhedit> showing up fine for me, FF ESR 45
[17:28:02] <Bytram> FatPhil: I run the OMGpwnies theme on prod, so mine is coming from: https://soylentnews.org
[17:28:34] <Bytram> fwiw, I'm running PM Version: 27.0.2 (x86)
[17:31:33] <cmn32480> last job they forced me to get macs for the people in marketing.
[17:31:41] <FatPhil> the rel="icon" link resolves correctly. BUt only half of my tabs are showing it
[17:31:56] <cmn32480> I forced them to give me a signed piece of paper form the CEO that said I would not have to support them.
[17:32:00] <FatPhil> BBC iplayer and wikipedia good. BBC news and SN bad.
[17:32:06] <FatPhil> No idea what's the common connection
[17:32:19] <Bytram> FatPhil: interesting. are you running a current version? how long has that instance been running? how many tabs?
[17:32:44] <cmn32480> No. 4 years, 412
[17:32:56] <Bytram> cmn32480: lol
[17:33:03] <Bytram> ROFL
[17:33:05] <FatPhil> Non-deterministic behaviour from browser is almost expected now. I think I'm on PM 25. Only been running a day as my g/f yanked out my power cord
[17:33:33] <cmn32480> so it was HER that did it to Charon's car!
[17:33:50] <Bytram> is why I always try to avoid the background-update-your-program-automatically choices
[17:34:11] <FatPhil> ditto. I'd rather be slow and know
[17:34:18] <xhedit> Warning: Firefox is about to close 439 tabs, are you sure?
[17:34:36] <FatPhil> how many of those tabs are pr0n?
[17:34:39] <Bytram> is easiest to debug problems when one, and ONLY one, change is made at a time
[17:34:48] <xhedit> zero. pr0n goes in a different browser ...
[17:34:57] <Bytram> FatPhil: s/are/are not/
[17:34:57] <sedctl> <Bytram> <FatPhil> how many of those tabs are not pr0n?
[17:34:59] <exec> <Bytram> <FatPhil> how many of those tabs are not pr0n?
[17:35:36] <Bytram> exec: s/not/NOT/
[17:35:36] <sedctl> <Bytram> <exec> <Bytram> <FatPhil> how many of those tabs are NOT pr0n?
[17:35:38] <exec> <Bytram> <exec> <Bytram> <FatPhil> how many of those tabs are NOT pr0n?
[17:36:17] <xhedit> I used to be an obsessive program and tab closer
[17:36:22] <Bytram> sedctl: : s/of those//
[17:36:22] * sedctl is a 53-line gawk script, https://github.com
[17:36:24] <exec> └─ 13Page not found · GitHub
[17:36:37] <Bytram> sedctl: s/of those//
[17:37:00] <Bytram> okay, lunch and break time... biab
[17:42:15] <FatPhil> why ``sedbot.awk outfile=irc/irc.example.org/#channel/in'' rather than ``sedbot.awk >> irc/irc.example.org/#channel/in''?
[17:42:43] <xhedit> maybe it wants stderr too?
[17:44:00] * xhedit isn't going to look at awk code today
[17:44:15] <paulej72> kwa
[17:51:47] <Bytram> FatPhil: I'm guessing, but maybe it's because it does not directly connect to IRC? https://github.com
[18:05:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A New Rapid X-Ray Technique Using Ultra-Short Electron Beams - http://sylnt.us - Zap!-Zap!
[18:11:15] <FatPhil> Bytram: I think it's more an awk quirk. I don't do awk. If it's complex enough to require awk, I just go straight to perl
[18:13:55] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:14:45] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[18:14:47] <exec> └─ 13Pebble watches to live on through 2017 | Ars Technica
[18:15:06] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[18:15:09] <exec> └─ 13California adopts first energy-efficiency standards for PCs in US | Ars Technica
[18:15:26] <cmn32480> mine fails
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[18:17:54] <exec> welcome janrinok: Paimpol, France, 11°C/51°F, 7:17 pm GMT+1, Thursday, 15 December 2016
[18:20:17] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[18:20:19] <exec> └─ 13Covert downloaders found preinstalled on dozens of low-cost Android phone models | Ars Technica
[19:35:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Aquantia Launches 2.5/5/10G Ethernet Chips for Consumers - http://sylnt.us - they-are-just-using-extra-tiny-bits
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[20:43:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> god damnit, i gotta rewrite my api interactions with bing translate cause they're moving the fucking api to azure
[20:44:10] <SirFinkus> https://club.ubisoft.com free shit
[20:46:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but i don't wanna play on their lameass steam-wannabe
[21:17:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Uber's Self-Driving Cars to be Tested in San Francisco - http://sylnt.us - driverless-cars-are-more-useful-than-carless-drivers
[21:35:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> rakeita saatana
[21:36:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> why the hell wouldn't this computer let me use dnf to update from Fedora 24 to Fedora 25.
[21:37:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> (It's probably because I don't know what the hell I'm doing with Fedora. I should change my username to Fredora.)
[21:46:38] <cmn32480> AndyTheAbsurd - Subsentient is a Fedora guru. He may be able to help
[21:47:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> meh. I already just reinstalled (on 25 instead of 24) because I hadn't done much with the laptop yet and couldn't be arsed faffing about with it.
[21:47:59] <cmn32480> ahhh well then
[22:04:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> When is Subsentient likely to be around? I don't pay much attention to the who's-around-when question in this channel.
[22:05:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> I have no idea how to go about finding and installing appropriate drivers for this lappy's AMD FirePro M4000 GPU.
[22:13:03] <Runaway1956> Stupid facebook link, but click it anyway
[22:13:08] <Runaway1956> https://www.facebook.com
[22:13:09] <exec> └─ 13Facebook
[22:13:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> it doesn't work if you're not logged into facebook
[22:14:08] <chromas> national_geographic--
[22:14:08] <Bender> karma - national_geographic: -1
[22:14:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> and I'm too lazy to get up and get my phone so that I can through the 2FA required to get myself logged in to facebook.
[22:14:16] <Runaway1956> Oh - well - I'm usually not logged into FB, sorry
[22:14:40] <chromas> I'm logged in and can't view the link
[22:14:41] <Runaway1956> It's a can of snake oil salesman's salve
[22:14:49] <Runaway1956> Sorry guy
[22:15:06] <Runaway1956> "Dr. DL Trump Butt Hurt Salve"
[22:15:09] <Runaway1956> cute
[22:15:22] * chromas sheds a single Indian tear
[22:15:39] <Runaway1956> That's ray's cyst isn't it?
[22:15:55] <Runaway1956> Indian tears . . . .
[22:16:24] <chromas> http://overpassesforamerica.com
[22:16:31] <chromas> alternative source :D
[22:17:08] <chromas> http://www.nationalgeographic.com
[22:17:10] <exec> └─ 13January 2017 - National Geographic Magazine
[22:17:10] <Runaway1956> You're good chromas - we just don't know what you're good for
[22:17:22] <chromas> Filling space
[22:17:51] <Runaway1956> So you're going to caulk around my windows and paint them to blend it?
[22:18:31] <chromas> I'll squeeze my caulk in but you have to do your own coverup
[22:18:45] <Runaway1956> ewwwwww
[22:26:40] <Bytram> https://www.bloomberg.com
[22:44:27] <chromas> from the CoC-of-Cocs dept
[22:46:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid - http://sylnt.us - a-man's-home-is-his-castle
[22:52:35] <Bytram> #join #qa
[22:55:03] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[22:55:05] <exec> └─ 130-days hitting Fedora and Ubuntu open desktops to a world of hurt | Ars Technica
[22:55:54] Bytram is now known as Bytram|fite
[22:58:52] Bytram|fite is now known as Bytram
[23:16:33] <FatPhil> "Amazon is an Equal Opportunity-Affirmative Action Employer – Minority / Female / Disability / Veteran / Gender Identity / Sexual Orientation." One of those things stands out a little...
[23:17:10] <FatPhil> As a male, I feel oppressed - where's my safe space!??!?!?
[23:17:37] <FatPhil> Oh yeah, in a pub, with the rest of the lads.
[23:21:08] <Bytram> #submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[23:21:08] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[23:21:29] <Bytram> ~submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[23:21:31] <exec> error: title not found or empty
[23:21:44] <Bytram> oh well.
[23:22:59] * Bytram looks at the pae and sees: "New report finds health wearable devices pose new consumer and privacy risks"
[23:23:31] <Bytram> s/pa/pag/
[23:23:31] <sedctl> <Bytram> looks at the page and sees: "New report finds health wearable devices pose new consumer and privacy risks"
[23:23:33] <exec> <Bytram> looks at the page and sees: "New report finds health wearable devices pose new consumer and privacy risks"
[23:29:16] <Bytram> https://www.sciencedaily.com
[23:29:28] <Bytram> https://www.sciencedaily.com
[23:32:53] <Bytram> gtg cul8r
[23:36:46] <Deucalion> Bytram, that language is a. outmoded b. does not befit someone of your standing
[23:39:27] * cmn32480 bets he was sitting when he wronte it
[23:41:11] <Deucalion> How much?
[23:41:17] <cmn32480> bytram not the one you were trying to sub... but same topic and study
[23:41:20] <cmn32480> ~arthur 973377
[23:41:20] <chromas> Tree fitty
[23:41:38] <cmn32480> 2 internets and chromas' footlong dong
[23:41:48] <cmn32480> or not
[23:41:51] * Deucalion pukes in the corner
[23:42:09] * Deucalion nick juggs
[23:42:13] <Deucalion> hehe
[23:42:19] Deucalion is now known as juggs
[23:42:26] * juggs jiggles a little
[23:42:33] <cmn32480> !Woop
[23:42:39] <cmn32480> !woop
[23:42:40] juggs is now known as Deucalion
[23:42:40] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[23:42:46] <FatPhil> ~weather tallinn
[23:42:48] <exec> 10Tallinn, Estonia - currently 34°F / 1°C, mostly cloudy, wind NW at 9 mph, humidity 87% - Thursday partly cloudy (30°F:34°F / -1°C:1°C), Friday mostly sunny (28°F:35°F / -2°C:2°C), Saturday fog (32°F:34°F / 0°C:1°C), Sunday scattered showers (30°F:35°F / -1°C:2°C)
[23:42:50] <cmn32480> bender is case sensitive
[23:43:37] * cmn32480 pokes exec
[23:43:43] <FatPhil> damn, looks like they finally fixed our central heating - the radiators are actually warm!
[23:44:28] <Deucalion> In Communist Russia radiators fix you... or something.... OK OK it's all I have.
[23:44:33] <cmn32480> ~arthur 973377
[23:44:49] <paulej72> FatPhil: no, just so cold out they just seem warm :)
[23:45:00] * exec pokes back
[23:46:41] <FatPhil> paulej72: quite the opposite. 1C's warm, so you'd expect little heating.
[23:47:20] <FatPhil> if it was -20, then they'll crank themselves up appropriately.
[23:48:54] <Deucalion> Sub 5C leads to condensation and mould growth, but up to that point I'm with that.. more layers, moar duvets!! :S
[23:49:21] * Deucalion practises being a hobo
[23:49:27] <FatPhil> i was hoping that being in the roof we'd get some of everyone else's heat. alas that doesn't seem to be the case
[23:50:07] <cmn32480> Deucalion - I read that completly incorrectly the first time
[23:50:08] <FatPhil> yeah, we've had our thickest blanket as well as the duvet for the last 2 weeks.
[23:50:28] <cmn32480> you bleed the radiators?
[23:50:29] <Deucalion> Prolly all going out through the roof. Ground floor and central here.... tis warm
[23:50:49] <paulej72> they probably insulated all the floors but forgot to do the roof
[23:50:50] <FatPhil> not even one bubble of air in them
[23:51:09] <FatPhil> 50cm of insulation here
[23:52:06] <FatPhil> it's the ultra-modern heat exchanger in the basement trying to be intelligent that seems to be failing
[23:52:17] <paulej72> but maybe it's chineese insulation
[23:52:47] <Deucalion> Nothing wrong with.... mattress > 20Tog > sheet > 20Tog + 20Tog.... other than getting out on cold mornings can be a challenge.
[23:53:05] <FatPhil> well, I will admit that we de facto score G on the thermal insulation scale (which means fuggedaboutit)
[23:53:08] <cmn32480> cuddle with the old lady adn call it fun time
[23:53:27] <FatPhil> oi, less of the "old"
[23:53:44] <cmn32480> its a slang term
[23:53:44] <FatPhil> if she's old, what does that make me?
[23:53:48] <cmn32480> ~define old lady
[23:53:49] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03old lady: a slang term for girlfriend or someone you are interested in.
[23:54:04] <FatPhil> 'er indoors
[23:54:31] <Deucalion> Bad things ensue when a site's main channel becomes an echo chamber for staff only... just saying
[23:54:52] <paulej72> echo echo echo
[23:55:01] * cmn32480 has thouhgt the same thing over the last few months
[23:55:29] <FatPhil> hoi poloi don't do IRC
[23:55:48] <FatPhil> it's not spacetubefinder enough for them
[23:55:51] <paulej72> 1% don't either
[23:56:21] <Deucalion> Seems like a good place to be. But that wasn't quite my point
[23:57:14] <FatPhil> Globally, I'm sure I'm 1%, even if I'm at the fat part of the bellcurve in a western nation.
[23:58:14] <FatPhil> I've been using IRC as my primary keep-in-touch-with-friends mechanism since 1993. Gonna be hard to shake the habit.
[23:58:39] <Deucalion> I hate those "globally" comparisons... utterly without reference to reality
[23:58:49] <Deucalion> Why would you shake the habit?
[23:59:27] <FatPhil> I'm having more luck converting my beer-drinking buddies to IRC than they are converting me to whatever social network du jour is.