#Soylent | Logs for 2016-12-12

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[00:01:14] chromas is now known as Bytram|fite
[00:01:19] Bytram|fite is now known as chromas
[00:14:07] <Bytram> AVG--
[00:14:07] <Bender> karma - avg: -1
[00:15:02] <Bytram> AVG has put up a honking big dialog on my screen which I cannot get rid of. "Fix you PC's performance. For Free."
[00:15:15] <Bytram> clicking the "x" in the upper right hand corner does nothing.
[00:15:57] <chromas> Back to MSE then
[00:16:12] <Bytram> note the fine print: "By continuing to use this product, you are agreeing to our new <License Agreement> and <Privacy Policy> [Fix Now]
[00:16:21] <Bytram> <linky>
[00:16:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, this is what you get for running windows.
[00:16:54] <Bytram> hey, I'm NOT lovin' it, thas for sure!
[00:17:04] <chromas> Is ClamAV/ClamWin any good?
[00:17:45] <Bytram> can't kill any of AVG processes -- tried both Task Manager AND Process Explorer
[00:18:21] <Deucalion> ClamAV gives me plenty of false positives on Mint. Seems to spot windows nasties OK. No idea how it compares to the big name brands
[00:20:09] <Bytram> when I try to go to AVG' support page, it requires Javascript to be enabled.
[00:20:16] <Bytram> stike #2
[00:20:24] <Bytram> s/st/str/
[00:20:24] <sedctl> <Bytram> strike #2
[00:20:25] <exec> <Bytram> strike #2
[00:24:40] * Bytram loads add/remove programs, uninstalls "AVG Protection"
[00:33:40] <Bytram> your computer must now be restarted.
[00:35:29] <Bytram> there are two other parts to uninstall ("AVG" and "AVG Web Tuneup"), but I must reboot before I can try and remove those (Please wait until the current program is finished uninstalling or being changed. [OK]"
[00:35:36] <Bytram> laters
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[01:30:49] <jasassin> #fite u
[01:30:49] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[01:30:49] <MrPlow> #fite How can you fight when you're dead? Try again tomorrow.
[01:36:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Free Video Game "ChaosEsque Anthology" Reaches Release 100 - http://sylnt.us - chaotic-neutral-at-best
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[01:45:03] <cheaty_mccheatface> #fite chromas
[01:45:03] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[01:45:05] <MrPlow> #fite chromas falls broken at cheaty_mccheatface's feet.
[01:45:22] <cheaty_mccheatface> MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!
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[03:04:23] <cmn32480> #fite Aphrodite
[03:04:23] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[03:04:29] <cmn32480> #fite Regurgitator
[03:04:29] <MrPlow> There's already a fight going on. Wait your turn.
[03:04:33] <MrPlow> #fite cmn32480 falls broken at Aphrodite's feet.
[03:04:34] <cmn32480> #fite Regurgitator
[03:04:34] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[03:04:34] <MrPlow> #fite How can you fight when you're dead? Try again tomorrow.
[03:05:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Think Tank Wants IoT Device Design Regulated - http://sylnt.us - all-your-boink-detecting-mattresses-are-belong-to-us
[04:23:51] <cmn32480> bedtime
[04:23:56] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[04:23:57] * exec clumsily runs the Installshield Wizard to set up a misused Excel sheet of cookies for #soylent
[04:46:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Magic Leap Bashed for Being Vaporware - http://sylnt.us - magic-look-before-you-magic-leap
[06:17:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Reflecting on the Right to be Forgotten - http://sylnt.us - please-block-my-myspace-page
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[07:55:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Zika Virus and Microcephaly Underreporting in Colombia - http://sylnt.us - reporting-slipped-our-minds
[08:39:57] <FatPhil> #fite sedctl
[08:39:57] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[08:40:02] <MrPlow> #fite sedctl falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[08:40:04] <FatPhil> #fite swiss
[08:40:04] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[08:40:18] <MrPlow> #fite swiss falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[08:40:36] <swiss> qq
[08:40:41] <FatPhil> #fite Fnord666
[08:40:41] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[08:40:41] <MrPlow> #fite Fnord666's corpse is currently rotting on the ground. Try fighting someone who's alive.
[08:41:09] <FatPhil> #fite SirFinkus
[08:41:09] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[08:41:18] <MrPlow> #fite SirFinkus falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[08:41:35] <FatPhil> #fite x0908d3b2
[08:41:35] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[08:41:40] <MrPlow> #fite x0908d3b2 falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[08:41:52] <FatPhil> #fite Webweasel_
[08:41:52] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[08:42:16] <MrPlow> #fite Webweasel_ falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[08:42:29] <FatPhil> #fite u
[08:42:29] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[08:42:35] <MrPlow> #fite u falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[08:42:43] <FatPhil> #fite takyon
[08:42:43] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[08:42:46] <MrPlow> #fite FatPhil falls broken at takyon's feet.
[08:56:14] <FatPhil> I need breakfast: http://kuvaton.com
[09:35:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Windows 10 Anniversary Update Caused Widespread Wifi Failures - http://sylnt.us - working-precisely-as-intended
[09:47:12] <jasassin> !roll 2d6
[09:47:31] <jasassin> !roll 1d4
[09:50:09] <jasassin> .#klingon test
[09:51:47] <jasassin> !dict test
[09:51:52] <jasassin> ~test
[09:52:55] <jasassin> .8ball really?
[10:16:11] <chromas> #roll 4d20
[10:16:11] <MrPlow> pass 1: 44
[11:06:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mountie Sues; Alleges PTSD From Child Porn - http://sylnt.us - time-for-brain-bleach
[11:23:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> #klingon coffee++
[11:23:32] <MrPlow> qa'vIn ++ ( ++)
[11:23:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:23:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3080
[11:23:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[11:24:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake cmn32480
[11:24:07] * MrPlow smakes cmn32480 upside the head with wonderment
[11:24:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> fix yer bot
[11:24:58] <chromas> #sammich exec
[11:24:58] * MrPlow sneaks up behind exec and cuts their throat
[11:24:58] * MrPlow fixes thinly sliced exec's corpse sammiches for everyone in #Soylent
[11:25:19] <chromas> Joke's on you, MrPlow; there is no exec
[11:26:24] <chromas> http://imgur.com
[11:28:06] <chromas> ^ Logic Gates
[11:28:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> logic is so 1980s. it's all about the feels now, don't ya know?
[11:29:08] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:29:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3081
[11:29:12] <Bytram> !uid
[11:29:12] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6424, owned by novanon
[11:29:26] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: mornin!
[11:29:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Bytram
[11:30:09] <Bytram> I'm having some fun writing up my code to automagically gen comments
[11:30:39] <Bytram> such as one can do within the restrictions of windows .BAT files with some unix-land cmds tossed in
[11:30:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool, gonna see if i can get comments more cooking on dev today. get the buttons n such down at the bottoms.
[11:30:53] <Bytram> got a regexp / sed puzzle for ya
[11:31:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> get activeperl and just write a perl script.
[11:31:21] <Bytram> now do I pad a number with leading zeroes to make it fit a fixed width?
[11:32:00] <Bytram> I've got something that works with awk, but it seems kinda of "heavy" to haul all that in for such a seemingly simple thing... can you do it with sed?
[11:32:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... printf would be the way to go there rather than sed.
[11:32:11] <Bytram> !!
[11:32:26] <Bytram> doh!
[11:33:04] <chromas> Need ciri to generate comments
[11:33:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> lemme ponder on it a few but if you have printf compiled through cygwin that's your huckleberry
[11:33:36] <Bytram> all set
[11:33:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[11:33:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[11:33:36] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 257
[11:33:51] <Bytram> is part of a set of unixland tools I already gots installed!
[11:34:25] <cmn32480> ~last channel= nick=exec type=quit
[11:34:34] <cmn32480> oh right
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[11:35:06] <Bytram> cmn32480: !!
[11:35:10] <Bytram> g'morning!
[11:35:41] <cmn32480> ~last channel= nick=exec type=quit
[11:35:54] <cmn32480> that sin't gonna help[
[11:35:59] <cmn32480> bot's fixe dbuzzard
[11:36:02] <cmn32480> ~gday bytram
[11:36:03] * exec prematurely passes a 5¼" floppy disk of pocket rocket to bytram
[11:36:10] <Bytram> ~gday cmn32480
[11:36:11] * exec deliciously farts an undersized chest of com objects at cmn32480
[11:36:28] <Bytram> a couple of smallish things this am, it seems
[11:36:29] <exec> 03[2016-12-12 11:34:5] #folding <exec> Changing host
[11:36:42] * cmn32480 goes back to what he came in early to finish
[11:44:53] <Bytram> ~seen
[11:44:55] <exec> Bytram, was last seen in #Soylent 247 days, 1 hour, 21 minutes, 6 seconds ago with message: └─ 13John Mellencamp - Authority Song - YouTube
[11:45:07] <Bytram> lol!
[11:45:16] <Bytram> ~seen crutchy
[11:45:16] <exec> Bytram, crutchy was last seen in #Soylent 3 days, 2 hours, 15 minutes, 50 seconds ago with message: ~join #fite
[11:45:42] <Bytram> oh/ must be just me and having different hours then... miss "seeing" him
[12:00:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, near as i can tell he's just tired when he gets home and wakes up
[12:00:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt authority song
[12:00:38] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[12:02:56] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[12:02:56] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[12:04:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you checked the hundred+ comment stories for rendering speed lately? s'lookin nice.
[12:04:32] <boru> I sure would like this guy to sit in on our code reviews: https://www.youtube.com
[12:04:34] <exec> └─ 13Miyazaki interview, 11/13/2016 - YouTube
[12:05:15] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: last checked wicked early this am... noticed it was missing the comment cid... /me goes to take another look
[12:05:51] <Bytram> much quickerer!
[12:05:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> still is but i already had that built last night.
[12:06:04] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[12:06:04] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 274
[12:06:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> putting the buttons along the bottom today
[12:06:19] <Bytram> of each comment? or of the entire page?
[12:06:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> each comment
[12:06:29] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:06:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> bottom of the page should already be there
[12:06:54] <Bytram> oh, like "reply to" and "moderate" and moderation drop down
[12:07:02] <Bytram> which reminds me...
[12:07:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> yarp
[12:07:33] <Bytram> put on your thinking cap about how I could automagically set the moderation for any given comment -- for testing purposes, of course.
[12:07:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's less than a screen of template to get through for me, which is good cause i got other shit to do today
[12:07:49] <Bytram> stupid simple is just change it in the DB, but htat messesup the
[12:08:03] <Bytram> part of the code that displays who did the moderation and what they did
[12:08:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> what, set the score?
[12:08:12] <Bytram> well, kinda
[12:08:17] <Bytram> ultimately that'd be nice
[12:08:32] <Bytram> hmmm
[12:08:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> you just want shat moderated then?
[12:09:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> give everyone a thousand points and sic the new eds on a story.
[12:09:19] <Bytram> I'd like to have a small army of users that had an unlimited number of mod points, and that could programmtically go in and mod stories
[12:09:43] <Bytram> or, better still, allow me to moderate more than one point at a time
[12:09:54] <Bytram> and moderate any given comment more than once
[12:09:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> difficult
[12:09:57] <boru> Programmatically? You mean artificial users?
[12:10:12] * Bytram is trying to thinkj of a way to most faithfully maintain the existing code paths
[12:10:24] <Bytram> and all the attendant db updates that show up in the ui
[12:10:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> we specifically do not want even QA guys having godly powers on prod which would mean adding and then reverting debugging code
[12:10:40] <Bytram> like when I click on a cid in a story thread, and I can see all the mods and who did 'em and whatnot
[12:11:05] <Bytram> wholy agree and understand!
[12:11:22] <Bytram> was thinking of making it a site var, maybe.
[12:11:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> bug me sometime when i'm not neck deep in rewriting templates and we can add an is_prod entry to the vars table.
[12:11:50] <Bytram> if seclev >= 10000 and site-var_super_mod==true, then *allow*
[12:12:03] <Bytram> brilliant!
[12:12:40] <Bytram> my goal is to provide you with an "interesting" arrangement of comment hierarchies that you can use to test your layout code.
[12:12:56] <Bytram> hit normal, edge, and corner cases
[12:13:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, the deeper you send the comments the longer it will take to render
[12:13:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's a given regardless of what algorithm is used for arranging them
[12:13:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> the degree of longer is all we can change
[12:13:58] * Bytram puts on evil hat... imagine a story that has 200 comments, each a reply to the one before it, so it goes to a "depth" of 200... and I request comment 90 and comments below it.
[12:14:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah yeah, don't go pre-testing though. wait till i actually have a go at making the sorting algorithm faster.
[12:15:35] * Bytram things that realistically, anything past about 10 deep is already near pathological..., but we don't want to provide an easily accessible dddos of our site, either
[12:15:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> wonder if it'd be faster to do the sorting logic in the db and make multiple db calls
[12:16:04] <Bytram> good question.. prolly depends on how many / how deep the joins would be
[12:16:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly not with our current arrangement
[12:17:03] <Bytram> not familiar with the code, but gut feeling says DB would be slower unless you have an amazingly good match between what you want and a simple join the DB can execute... odss suggest not so good
[12:17:08] <Bytram> *odds
[12:17:19] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[12:17:20] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 6°F, snow showers, wind SW at 1 mph, humidity 88% - Monday snow (14°F:19°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (15°F:23°F), Wednesday snow showers (8°F:25°F), Thursday partly cloudy (-5°F:15°F)
[12:17:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> not joins, well crafted queries
[12:17:22] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[12:17:24] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 33°F, rain and snow, wind NE at 9 mph, humidity 86% - Monday rain (27°F:39°F), Tuesday mostly sunny (27°F:36°F), Wednesday sunny (18°F:36°F), Thursday mostly sunny (1°F:21°F)
[12:17:26] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[12:17:27] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 38°F, light rain showers, wind SE at 8 mph, humidity 95% - Monday rain (32°F:47°F), Tuesday mostly sunny (31°F:40°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (25°F:38°F), Thursday cloudy (6°F:25°F)
[12:17:39] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:17:45] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:17:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3082
[12:17:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> like getting comments at depth = N
[12:18:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, we could add a depth column to each row
[12:18:22] <Bytram> huh? each row where?
[12:18:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> in the db, let us pull comments by depth.
[12:19:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> less to sort at once means faster sorting
[12:19:22] <Bytram> not where in the DB, what *table* ??
[12:19:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> comments
[12:19:51] <Bytram> k
[12:20:10] <Bytram> each comment has one, and only one, parent
[12:20:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, pid
[12:20:23] <Bytram> how many parents does *this* comment have?
[12:20:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ?
[12:20:29] <Bytram> == depth
[12:20:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, basically
[12:21:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> but you just take parent's depth and add one instead of counting
[12:21:16] <Bytram> yep
[12:21:25] <Bytram> no skipping generations
[12:21:31] * Bytram likes to skip rocks
[12:21:37] * Bytram on a lake
[12:21:41] * Bytram in the summer
[12:21:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sure if i can get something that'd make good use of that worked up but it's an option
[12:22:04] <Bytram> keep in back-of-mind -- yep
[12:22:12] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs and afks
[12:22:25] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: one last thing
[12:22:32] * Bytram has to leave for work soon, too
[12:22:43] <Bytram> I've got about 80-90% of the code written so I can do:L
[12:22:46] <Bytram> comment
[12:23:17] <Bytram> and it just posts a comment using defaults for domain, sid, etc. and returns the comment # and the json (to a file)
[12:23:25] <Bytram> and have about 50% of code to do:
[12:23:31] <Bytram> replyto 003
[12:23:52] <Bytram> and it will automagically fill in the domain, sid, subject, and comment, too.
[12:24:06] <Bytram> as well as increment the comment number
[12:24:15] <Bytram> and save its json output to a file
[12:24:35] <Bytram> ultimately, if I posted a total of 200 comments and replies,
[12:24:36] <paulej72> morning all
[12:25:07] <Bytram> I'd have 200 separate "comment_nnn.json" files, each with the stuff for thayt particular comment/reply.
[12:25:12] <Bytram> paulej72: g'morning
[12:25:55] * Bytram needs to be at work in about 75 minutes, and it snowed last night... need extra time to scrape windows, clear now, and avoid drivers with bare tires on the road
[12:26:31] <paulej72> same for me, but less scraping
[12:26:47] <Bytram> paulej72: good to see ya around so much more lately -- hope it's a sign that your work load has let up a bit so you aren't so much up against the wall with demands on your time!
[12:27:12] <Bytram> well is near freezing today, yesterday it was like 14 F
[12:27:17] <Bytram> not so much fun, that.
[12:27:26] <paulej72> yeah
[12:27:42] <Bytram> would really love to stay and chat, but really gtg and get ready for my day... hope you have a good one!
[12:28:02] <Bytram> afk
[12:30:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, i don't think ima get shit done today. feelin kinda run over.
[12:35:18] <chromas> Set up bayesian filter for each of the mod labels, then we train it by modding, then it starts pre-modding for us :D
[12:36:12] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: did you take your meds? also
[12:36:39] <Bytram> keep in the back of your mind that we ALSO have comment trees under JOURNALS and POLLS
[12:37:58] <Bytram> barring any changes in my schedule I have thurs and fri off, should be able to have things advanced to the point that i can post a story, type test_001 and have it automagically create a specific structure under that story
[12:38:05] * Bytram hopes and crosses fingers
[12:41:53] <chromas> Does it fuzz?
[12:44:37] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[12:44:37] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[12:45:10] * cmn32480 flips an M&M into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth to cause confusion
[12:45:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya psycho. fruit n chocolate should never mix, despite what candy companies think
[12:45:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Thermoelectric Paint Generates Electricity From Almost Any Heat Source - http://sylnt.us - getting-a-charge-out-of-painting
[12:46:47] <cmn32480> chocolate covered strawberries and/or bananas
[12:46:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> are sick n wrong
[12:47:05] <chromas> #smake TheMightyBuzzard
[12:47:05] * MrPlow smakes TheMightyBuzzard upside the head with a hashref
[12:47:11] <cmn32480> agreed
[12:47:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, ima watch tv. if my meds kick in and knock the blah out of me i'll get some work done. if not, screw it.
[12:47:58] <cmn32480> see ya tomorrow buzzard
[13:07:23] <Bytram> time for me to get off to work... have a great day everyone!
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[13:47:36] <cmn32480> #fite swiss
[13:47:36] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
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[13:52:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> !w Saint Pete Beach
[13:53:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather
[13:53:03] <MrPlow> Today: Cloudy skies early, followed by partial clearing. Slight chance of a rain shower. High 77F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Tomorrow: Some clouds in the morning will give way to mainly sunny skies for the afternoon. High 76F. Winds light and variable.
[13:53:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather Montevideo, Uruguay
[13:53:28] <MrPlow> Today: Abundant sunshine. High 93F. Winds WNW at 15 to 25 mph. Tomorrow: Partly cloudy skies. High near 70F. Winds SSW at 10 to 20 mph.
[13:55:29] <FatPhil> anyone know a good free iphone ssh client (something like putty, perhaps)?
[13:57:18] <cmn32480> I don't think Apple allows free software... they need their cut
[13:57:42] <boru> If such a thing existed, you'd probably have to use their private keys as well.
[13:58:21] <cmn32480> likely\
[13:59:35] <boru> iSSH -- insecure shell; propietary crapple protocol which the user submits their private keys to apple for the privilege of logging into their crapintosh via a cloud based HTTP restful transport.
[14:00:28] <boru> (That was the worst I could come up with on such short notice)
[14:00:38] <boru> Oh, monthly subscription, too.
[14:01:20] <cmn32480> lol\
[14:02:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> There actually is a program named "iSSH": http://macserve.org.uk
[14:02:40] <exec> └─ 13MacServe | iSSH
[14:02:47] <boru> Good grief.
[14:02:54] * cmn32480 notes that AndyTheAbsurd is a touch late...
[14:03:26] <boru> GUI for ssh(1)...
[14:03:37] <cmn32480> Rats.. CYGNSS launch scrubbed
[14:04:01] <boru> It happens.
[14:04:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> cmn32480: late because I decided not to go with my first instinct, which was "I don't know because I don't use dumbphones".
[14:04:28] <cmn32480> nope... late because boru put up the details 3 lines above on iSSH
[14:04:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> also: almost nothing launches in the first launch window
[14:04:37] <cmn32480> yeah
[14:04:49] <cmn32480> I was hoping to see it.
[14:04:56] <boru> The first launcher project I worked on was scrubbed twice, iirc.
[14:04:59] <cmn32480> always gets the blood movign a bit
[14:05:19] <cmn32480> and I've never seen a rocket launched from a plane
[14:06:01] <cmn32480> it was live on Facebook
[14:06:06] <boru> Emetic.
[14:07:26] <boru> I've been considering scrapping my phone for a 2G unit, and getting a mifi module and just carrying my lappy around with me.
[14:07:39] <boru> I have no practical use for a 'smart' phone.
[14:09:22] <boru> I like the look of those Punkt MP01 phones, but it is outlandishly extortionate for a 2G phone.
[14:09:49] <boru> It seems to be more designed to be a fashion accessory.
[14:10:08] <cmn32480> most smart pohones are
[14:10:42] <boru> Well, this is a dumbphone.
[14:11:11] <boru> This one: https://www.punkt.ch
[14:11:14] <exec> └─ 13Error 404 - File not found
[14:11:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> boru: I want a 4G flip phone that also acts as a mifi hot spot, so I can have laptop/tablet internet access with only two devices instead of three.
[14:11:42] <boru> Interesting that it 404s exec.
[14:12:04] <boru> Aye, I have one of those, but the battery is knackered after a day.
[14:12:33] <boru> I have a WWAN adapter on my lappy, so I suppose I could just use that.
[14:12:39] <boru> I'd just need to buy the modem and install it.
[14:13:25] <boru> All I really want is a low bandwidth 'Net connection in rural locations, and Iridium is too expensive to justify the cost for my requirements.
[14:13:37] <boru> Iridium would be ideal, of course.
[14:14:49] <cmn32480> Iridium?
[14:15:00] <boru> The comm sat network.
[14:15:32] <boru> A data plan costs an arm and a leg anually, though.
[14:15:58] <boru> Low demand/large maintenance cost etc.
[14:16:36] <cmn32480> gotcah
[14:17:28] <boru> It's optimal for the requirements I have in mind i.e. 'Net in the middle of nowhere.
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[17:07:09] <exec> welcome Runaway1956: Dallas, TX, USA, 9°C/48°F, 11:07 am GMT-6, Monday, 12 December 2016
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[17:14:15] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 4°C/40°F, 9:14 am GMT-8, Monday, 12 December 2016
[17:35:16] <cmn32480> ~arthur d5ee01
[17:35:21] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Samsung software update will brick few Note 7s left in the wild"
[17:35:52] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
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[19:14:26] <Runaway1956> https://soylentnews.org
[19:14:29] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | U.S. Supreme Court Deadlock Prevents Stay of Execution
[19:14:35] <Runaway1956> Please look at that faggotry
[19:15:24] <Runaway1956> THAT is the kind of shite that prompted me to downmod him - he snipes away, snipe, snipe, snipe,
[19:18:11] <cmn32480> I agree.... however, the rule is that if you hit one guy with all 5 mod points inside fo 24 hours, a mod ban happens
[19:18:34] <cmn32480> if you only do 4, well... not mush we can do!
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[19:41:48] <Runaway1956> I knew about the spam mod - did not know about 5 downmods in 24 hours
[19:42:16] <Runaway1956> anyway, that sumbitch is like an infected wart on my arse - and he seems to grow out of Buzzard's arse too
[19:42:36] <Runaway1956> Even when Buzzard isn't involved in a conversation, Aristarchus badmouths Buzzard
[19:44:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't mind. everyone needs a hobby.
[19:44:52] <cmn32480> he is a shithead.... just fodn't downmod 5 times ina day
[19:45:24] <Runaway1956> six times in two days is alright, five in one day is a no-no - got it
[19:46:29] <cmn32480> 8 in 2 days is ok... just not 5 inside 24 hours or the system triggers it
[19:46:50] * Runaway1956 kicks the system a couple times
[19:47:08] * cmn32480 is glad he wrapped the system in foam rubbers
[19:48:51] <cmn32480> judge rejected the PA recount of paper ballots request by the Green party
[19:49:34] <Runaway1956> Does a judge have the authority to refuse a recount? Some things happen in this country that just don't seem "right"
[19:49:57] <charon> without even looking, i'll guarantte it's "standing"
[19:50:49] <charon> Green party was not the loser, therefore they don't have standing to force the recount
[19:51:48] <cmn32480> you win 2 internets charon
[19:52:13] <swiss> Runaway1956: depends on the reasoning for the recount
[19:52:41] <swiss> it's not like anyone can yell "RECOUNT" and it automatically happens
[19:52:45] <charon> i hate the way that excuse is used to duck an important issue
[19:53:03] <swiss> if hillary campaigned for a recount, I expect it'd happen
[19:53:33] * Runaway1956 believes swiss is right
[19:53:44] <charon> happens at the supreme court sometimes. a case makes it through however many appeals, and because the SC doesn't want to deal with it, suddenly they find (like no other appeals court had in the meantime) that plaintiff has no standing
[19:54:10] <swiss> Runaway1956: the reason it was a judge that decided is that she was "suing" for a recount iirc
[19:54:11] <cmn32480> I believe swiss is spot on
[19:54:16] <charon> and voila, no ruling needed
[19:54:27] <cmn32480> if hillary (who lost by a slim margin) had asked for it in a timely fashion, she'd have gotten it
[19:54:49] <swiss> the whole deal was just a publicity stunt
[19:55:04] <swiss> there was never an intention for the results to change
[19:55:13] <cmn32480> yep
[19:55:20] <Runaway1956> I still haven't figured the odds that the Dems put the Greens up to the challenge though
[19:55:21] <cmn32480> raISING $$ FOR STEIN AND THE GREENS.. NTOHGIN MORE
[19:55:25] <cmn32480> stupid caps lock
[19:55:45] <swiss> also, could be dems pushing it. If it was allowed, and they still lost, just makes them look like losers
[19:55:47] <cmn32480> https://www.apnews.com's-Pennsylvania-recount-case
[19:55:49] <exec> └─ 13US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case
[19:55:54] <swiss> denied, and they look like they might be getting scammed
[19:56:08] <swiss> i don't think they wanted it approved
[19:56:32] <swiss> "Judge rejects recount" sounds better for Dems than "After recount, Dems still lose"
[20:05:26] <cmn32480> Dems prolly didn't want it approved.
[20:06:23] <swiss> exactly
[20:06:44] <charon> how could it have worked anyway? ask the (possibly) hacked machines to count again? They use the same (possibly) hacked numbers and they all add up the same as last time
[20:06:55] <swiss> there are a ton of mail in ballots
[20:07:09] <swiss> and most places don't use machines
[20:07:13] <cmn32480> probably hoping to see tha some districts had more votes than voters
[20:07:13] <charon> PA does
[20:07:13] <swiss> tons of provisional ballots too
[20:07:29] <swiss> PA has machines, but that doesn't mean EVERY polling location has machines
[20:07:38] <cmn32480> but they were likely in the cities, which are dem strongholds...
[20:07:54] <swiss> at my polling location in Los Angeles we had 2 machines, and tons of paper ballots
[20:07:59] <swiss> people mostly did paper ballots
[20:08:04] <cmn32480> swiss - I think the if tey use machines, EVERY location is supposed to have them.
[20:08:11] <swiss> nope
[20:08:15] <charon> at my polling place in MA, there's a paper ballot that you feed into a scantron reader. so instant real records to count
[20:08:33] <swiss> charon: unless the reader misread or missed something
[20:08:50] <swiss> recounts are a lot of work
[20:08:51] <cmn32480> charon - maryland works same way
[20:09:05] <charon> yeah, but the point is that there's something to really count in case of dispute instead of polling the machine again
[20:09:39] <swiss> they keep all the physical ballots
[20:09:43] <swiss> and they recount tehm
[20:09:55] <charon> if it's just touch this button on the screen, you're at the mercy of the machine
[20:09:59] <swiss> everything that went through a machine gets counted manually
[20:10:16] <swiss> soooooo many mail in ballots
[20:10:24] <cmn32480> and it is more than just counting them
[20:10:53] <cmn32480> they have to verify counts against precincts, to say that there weren't more votes than registered voters.
[20:11:02] <cmn32480> there are a LOT of steps
[20:12:37] <swiss> yep
[20:14:37] <cmn32480> They had to do it in Baltimore for the Mayoral Primary... it was a freaking mess
[20:14:54] <cmn32480> found all kinds of voter fraud on the democrat side
[20:15:24] * charon watches season 3 of The Wire
[20:15:48] <charon> yep, corruption alright
[20:18:27] <charon> or is it season 4 that has the mayoral race? Carcetti for life!
[20:25:28] <cmn32480> shame how much it paraleles real life
[20:29:05] <swiss> season 3
[20:29:18] <swiss> season 4 is the school
[20:30:15] <charon> best TV show that i'll probably never watch again
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