#Soylent | Logs for 2016-12-02

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[00:08:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The US Surveillance State is Poised to Become Even More Powerful - http://sylnt.us - can-you-hear-me-know
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[00:30:09] <chromas> oh here's a feature for #fites: track our killers and show 'em on da scoreboard
[00:34:26] <SirFinkus> mechanicjay: it's dark out, that means it's beer o clock
[00:34:59] <mechanicjay> SirFinkus: true -- hey in only a few more weeks it'll be beer-o-clock at like 3:30!
[00:35:35] * mechanicjay note there is still a long way to go till the solstice
[00:37:36] <jasassin> hey man nice gun it was a good shot man
[00:39:03] <jasassin> i never really liked that song so much
[00:39:10] <jasassin> but its not so bad on mushrooms
[00:39:44] <jasassin> yeah log back into irc while i can still type hey man
[00:39:50] <jasassin> it was a good shot man
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[01:03:47] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, USA, 15°C/59°F, 5:03 pm GMT-8, Thursday, 1 December 2016
[01:04:35] <Ethanol-fueled> One fucking day after I post a "troll" stating that Muslims are savages, and some guy mows down a bunch of fellow college kids with his car, then jumps out and starts hacking them up with a butcher knife.
[01:04:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Dontcha hate it when I'm right? Bahahaha
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[01:04:50] <SoyGuest80514> Goddammit!
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[01:22:50] <mechanicjay> What an everloving pain in the as
[01:22:51] <mechanicjay> s
[01:23:21] <mechanicjay> we have this ticketing system, which is the biggest piece of homegrown shit your 1998 perl based eyes ever laid eyes on.
[01:23:58] <mechanicjay> There is no way to DIRECTLY access a ticket with that tickets' number, withough multiple clicks through menus as everything is done through post requests
[01:24:02] <mechanicjay> NO longer!
[01:24:57] <mechanicjay> I dug through and found the form which lets you view by ticket number, dumped it on a different page, takes the ticket number from the get request on the out page, fills the form and autosumits it
[01:26:13] <mechanicjay> I've just saved myself like 20 minutes /day of fighting with this stupid thing.
[01:27:03] <chromas> Did you file a ticket?
[01:27:10] <chromas> about the system
[01:28:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> mechanicjay++ # perl hacking ftw
[01:28:37] <Bender> karma - mechanicjay: 22
[01:30:05] <mechanicjay> chromas: heh, no the guy two doors down from me runs it -- it's basically abandonware at this point, as he's been trying to launch a new ticketing system for like a year
[01:30:35] <mechanicjay> which is horseshit -- it takes 5 minutes to launch a new ticketing system, but there's this bizarre requirement that all the old tickets get imported into the new system
[01:30:37] <mechanicjay> I don't understand
[01:30:49] <mechanicjay> I think it because this place has never really done a ticketing system transition before
[01:30:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're askeert
[01:31:08] <mechanicjay> keep the old shit for a while, after a year you never fucking look at the old shit anyway
[01:31:20] <chromas> does it take a year to write a conversion tool?
[01:31:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> not in perl
[01:31:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> like half a day if you're drunk
[01:31:39] <mechanicjay> I honestly don't know what the holdup up -- apparently he has it all working
[01:31:57] <mechanicjay> there's just no movement forward to actually birth this thing.
[01:32:01] <mechanicjay> months....
[01:32:03] <mechanicjay> nothing
[01:32:18] <mechanicjay> I should script a ticket/day about launching the new ticketing system
[01:32:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> he busy playing nethack then?
[01:32:26] <mechanicjay> ?
[01:32:29] <mechanicjay> beats me
[01:32:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i mean if his shit's done...
[01:33:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> man fuck, it takes for fucking ever to get a gentoo system off the ground in a worth using state
[01:35:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima go watch trek. dis fresh batch of 129 packages to build can suck my dick if it thinks ima sit here watching it build.
[01:37:02] <mechanicjay> Yes, yes it sucks
[01:37:11] <mechanicjay> once it's running though, not so bad
[01:43:53] <chromas> Do you do updates in the background all day long?
[01:44:26] <mechanicjay> I update about 1/week. some weeks thats 0 update, others like today was 110
[01:45:46] <mechanicjay> emerge --sync; emerge --ask --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse @world
[01:45:57] <mechanicjay> that seems to get everything swept up neatly
[01:45:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Learning Makes Animals Intelligent - http://sylnt.us - smart-is-as-smart-does
[01:46:12] <mechanicjay> at least that's now I've been updating for over a year now with now ill effects.
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[01:56:07] <chromas> shouldn't that ; be a &&?
[01:56:16] <chromas> just in case of failure
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[01:57:59] <swiss> yes
[02:43:37] <Deucalion> ~weather
[02:43:39] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 41°F / 5°C, cloudy, wind SW at 2 mph, humidity 89% - Thursday fog (37°F:46°F / 3°C:8°C), Friday fog (38°F:44°F / 3°C:7°C), Saturday partly cloudy (36°F:47°F / 2°C:8°C), Sunday sunny (33°F:45°F / 1°C:7°C)
[03:11:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[03:11:35] <exec> └─ 13YouTube
[03:11:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> weak, exec
[03:15:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Can’t Humans Regenerate Body Parts? We’ve Got the Genes - http://sylnt.us - it-works-for-wolverine
[03:17:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, this is why guys wear boots n hats: https://www.youtube.com
[03:17:32] <exec> └─ 13Village Girls - Thank God I'm A Country Girl (Official Video) - YouTube
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[03:34:57] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ many thanks for the help
[03:34:57] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 270
[03:36:52] <Bytram> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[03:36:54] * exec inadequately launches a boot of cinnamon rolls toward TheMightyBuzzard
[03:37:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight Bytram
[03:37:05] * exec half-heartedly farts a buzzfeed listicle of beans & rice at Bytram
[03:37:08] <Bytram> yummm, cinnamon!
[03:37:20] <Bytram> ~define listicle
[03:37:21] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03listicle: An article comprised mainly of a list of something annoying.They are easy for content producers to create or plagiarize, and unlike news content, they remain "relevant" for years. Because th...
[03:37:36] * TheMightyBuzzard wins over both Bytram and anyone in the same room as him for the next 8 hours or so
[03:37:46] <Bytram> oh, so: kidney, lima, black, etc
[03:38:06] <Bytram> but after I finish w/ all those beans, I'll have the upper stink
[03:38:09] <Bytram> ;)
[03:38:42] <Bytram> thas all folks -- laters
[03:44:35] * TheMightyBuzzard sets firefox to building and heads to bed himself
[04:46:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Imposes Limit on Reviews - http://sylnt.us - Haribo-sugar-free-gummy-bears
[06:07:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Digital Microbes for Munching Yourself Healthy - http://sylnt.us - just-a-gut-feeling
[06:23:58] <SirFinkus> lol bbc
[06:24:02] <SirFinkus> "The company, which makes Kitkat and Aero, says its researchers have found a way to structure sugar differently, so that it uses 40% less."
[06:24:12] <SirFinkus> how did that make it past the editor?
[07:36:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Zynga Sues Two Former Employees over Alleged Massive Data Heist - http://sylnt.us - not-playing-fair
[07:44:18] <fffd> [SoylentNews] - Zynga Sues Two Former Employees over Alleged Massive Data Heist - http://sylnt.us - not-playing-fair
[07:44:20] <exec> └─ 13Zynga Sues Two Former Employees over Alleged Massive Data Heist - SoylentNews
[07:44:24] <fffd> is it just me
[07:44:36] <fffd> or does that link point to something completely unrelated?
[07:44:48] <fffd> about competetive programmers that suck
[07:48:55] <chromas> your irc client is excluding the - from the url
[07:49:21] <fffd> yes you are correct :)
[07:49:26] <fffd> i'm smart
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[08:12:32] <exec> welcome janrinok: Paimpol, France, 6°C/43°F, 9:12 am GMT+1, Friday, 2 December 2016
[08:38:57] <FatPhil> SirFinkus: there are no editors on the bbc, that's how it got past one.
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[09:02:16] <FatPhil> #fite GreatOutdoors
[09:02:16] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[09:02:31] <MrPlow> #fite GreatOutdoors falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[09:02:44] <FatPhil> #fite Aphrodite
[09:02:44] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[09:02:48] <MrPlow> #fite Aphrodite falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[09:02:57] <FatPhil> #fight Mayonaise
[09:03:09] <FatPhil> #fite Mayonaise
[09:03:09] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[09:03:13] <MrPlow> #fite Mayonaise falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[09:03:24] <FatPhil> #fite takyon
[09:03:24] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[09:03:32] <MrPlow> #fite takyon falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[09:03:39] <FatPhil> #fite mngrif
[09:03:39] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[09:03:54] <MrPlow> #fite mngrif falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[09:03:58] <FatPhil> #fite Loggie
[09:03:58] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[09:04:17] <MrPlow> #fite Loggie falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[09:04:29] <FatPhil> #fite DECbot
[09:04:29] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[09:04:39] <MrPlow> #fite FatPhil falls broken at DECbot's feet.
[09:16:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Groundwater Helium Level Could Signal Potential Risk of Earthquake - http://sylnt.us - bubbles-mean-troubles
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[10:28:29] <boru> Bloody sourceforge. fetch(1) will go and get a file by URL, whereas with curl(1), it presents their JS/ad ridden website crap.
[10:28:33] * boru grumbles.
[10:29:15] <chromas> wget?
[10:29:56] <boru> Incompatible flags (this is for something which requires tools to use similar flags)
[10:30:36] <boru> e.g. fetch and curl have -o, so you can do $(DOWNLOADER) -o /path/to/somewhere/file.blah ftp.url.com/file.blah
[10:30:48] <boru> Whereas wget uses -O
[10:34:51] * boru gives up supporting Linux.
[10:36:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Create First 'Water-Wave Laser' - http://sylnt.us - sharks-in-frickin-lasers
[10:44:58] * boru tries using a sourceforge mirror instead.
[11:25:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:25:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3061
[11:30:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[11:30:58] <MrPlow> Today: Sunny to partly cloudy. High 58F. Winds light and variable. Tomorrow: Cloudy in the morning, then off and on rain showers during the afternoon hours. High near 50F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 60%.
[12:02:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather
[12:02:57] <MrPlow> Today: Sunny. High 74F. Winds NE at 10 to 20 mph. Tomorrow: Sunny. High 77F. Winds ENE at 10 to 20 mph.
[12:17:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Meet Gaza's Female Geeks - http://sylnt.us - always-developing
[12:22:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to be another long morning of compiling but sometime today i should have a semi-working gentoo desktop
[12:23:12] <chromas> just think, you could probably have arch-nosystemd running by now :D
[12:24:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, less maintainers
[12:24:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's plenty of gentoo guys and they're serious about being able to stay systemd-free
[12:25:43] <FatPhil> what's the telephone for the posh anorexics' helpline?
[12:25:46] <FatPhil> one eight nought, one eight nought, one eight nought.
[12:26:03] * TheMightyBuzzard groans
[12:26:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice
[12:26:47] <FatPhil> that type of joke is as old as the hills, I just added the posh twist myself
[12:27:17] <FatPhil> I remember in primary school "what was Bobby Sands prisoner number?" "eight nothing eight nothing eight nothing"
[12:29:35] <FatPhil> I saw a standup do a couple of twist on it last night, and thought "fuck it, let's try to breathe some life back into the formula"
[12:31:21] <FatPhil> Pulled one of the keycaps off my 2000e laptop (but now just out of warrantee) yesterday. They're not like normal keyboards, you can't just clip them back on. :-(
[12:33:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ack
[12:33:45] <FatPhil> used some rubbery glue to try to hold it down, but probably used too much and now it feels like a ZX Spectrum keyboard
[12:37:33] <chromas> you'll make it confused about how to handle insults
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[13:00:25] <FatPhil> #fite CoolHand
[13:00:25] * MrPlow #fite looks around but doesn't see CoolHand
[13:00:42] <FatPhil> #fite chromas
[13:00:42] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:01:20] <MrPlow> #fite chromas falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[13:01:25] <chromas> taps.ogg
[13:01:45] <FatPhil> #fite Bender
[13:01:45] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:01:48] <chromas> oh wait, I can't talk; I died
[13:01:57] <FatPhil> only on that channel!
[13:01:58] * chromas sets his eyes to X
[13:02:07] <MrPlow> #fite Bender falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[13:02:22] <FatPhil> #fite exec
[13:02:22] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:02:22] <MrPlow> #fite exec's corpse is currently rotting on the ground. Try fighting someone who's alive.
[13:02:26] <FatPhil> #fite fffd
[13:02:26] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:02:32] <MrPlow> #fite fffd falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[13:02:47] <FatPhil> #fite mechanicjay
[13:02:47] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:03:10] <MrPlow> #fite mechanicjay falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[13:04:02] <FatPhil> #fite janrinok_afk
[13:04:02] * MrPlow #fite looks around but doesn't see janrinok_afk
[13:04:16] <FatPhil> #fite n1_
[13:04:16] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:04:19] <MrPlow> #fite n1_ falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[13:04:23] <chromas> #fite janrinok
[13:04:23] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:04:23] <MrPlow> #fite How can you fight when you're dead? Try again tomorrow.
[13:04:32] <chromas> try janrinok
[13:04:42] <chromas> sometimes MrPlow doesn't recognize nick changes
[13:05:14] <FatPhil> #fite janrinok
[13:05:14] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:05:18] <FatPhil> :)
[13:05:31] <MrPlow> #fite janrinok falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[13:05:33] <FatPhil> #fite SirFinkus
[13:05:33] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:05:33] <MrPlow> #fite SirFinkus's corpse is currently rotting on the ground. Try fighting someone who's alive.
[13:05:38] <FatPhil> #fite swiss
[13:05:38] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:06:14] <MrPlow> #fite swiss falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[13:07:24] * TheMightyBuzzard glares at his desktop
[13:08:24] * AndyTheAbsurd also glares at TheMightyBuzzard's desktop
[13:08:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> maybe if it we all stare at it disapprovingly, it will begin to behave
[13:09:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's behaving, just slowly
[13:10:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> hamster needs some meth i think
[13:13:34] <chromas> need a new distro
[13:13:36] <chromas> archtoo
[13:14:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> troof. straight binary builds of all packages in the gentoo portage tree.
[13:14:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept the systemd shat
[13:15:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mozilla Patches Firefox Zero day Used to Unmask Tor Browser Users - http://sylnt.us - stay-safe
[13:15:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> "Kitchen Sink Linux: We included everything we could think of in the distro, now you have to figure out which pieces you want and if they can work together"
[13:16:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas already gentoo but you get the added fun of compiling it all
[13:16:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> "* You'll need at least a 2TB drive as install media"
[13:18:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> good gods but llvm takes a while to compile
[13:25:23] <FatPhil> my lappy did an llvm build pretty quickly last week. -j8 helps
[13:25:28] <FatPhil> SSD helps too
[13:26:49] <FatPhil> which is why I'm annoyed that I broke its kbd, it's a lovely little machine.
[13:33:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh wonderful, now i get to figure out why mesa isn't wanting to rebuild
[13:43:22] <chromas> how about a winnux? systemd-based; all the core stuff is one package and everything else requires going to various websites to grab installers
[13:44:44] <chromas> updates have all their descriptions say "this update addresses issues with winnux. search the internet for details" and sometimes checking for updates takes three days
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[13:56:04] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 31°C/87°F, 10:56 am GMT-3, Friday, 2 December 2016
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[14:13:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> yays, got mesa to build
[14:18:51] <chromas> Why wasn't it pre-built?
[14:19:04] <chromas> #smake calculate
[14:19:04] * MrPlow smakes calculate upside the head with a whore's shoe
[14:21:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> switched to proper gentoo cause calculate hadn't put out any news items in a year. and most of the forums was in russian.
[14:22:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> it was usin up all my red pixels
[14:24:43] <chromas> Gotta save those
[14:24:50] <chromas> those are the angry pixels
[14:24:56] <FatPhil> C--
[14:24:56] <Bender> karma - c: 64
[14:25:05] <FatPhil> const is so messed up
[14:25:14] <FatPhil> const--
[14:25:14] <Bender> karma - const: -1
[14:25:27] <FatPhil> C++--
[14:25:30] <FatPhil> heheh
[14:26:57] <chromas> j++
[14:26:57] <Bender> karma - j: 1
[14:27:05] <chromas> [j++]++
[14:27:05] <Bender> karma - [j++]: 1
[14:27:11] <FatPhil> what's j?
[14:27:50] * TheMightyBuzzard fires up a j and passes it to FatPhil
[14:31:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> #pissoff
[14:31:25] <MrPlow> Off I shall piss...
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[14:33:34] <chromas> ms visual j++
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[14:38:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> i need some more descriptive verbs depending on the damage done
[14:39:22] <cmn32480> #smake TheMightyBuzzard
[14:39:22] * MrPlow smakes TheMightyBuzzard upside the head with a three wood
[14:39:28] <cmn32480> I'm busy.. stop pinging me
[14:39:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> hur hur hur. okey.
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[14:42:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice one, FatPhil
[14:42:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> some good hits in there
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[14:46:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Over 500 MIT Faculty Sign Statement Opposing Trump Cabinet Picks - http://sylnt.us - more-like-pantry-picks
[14:50:56] <n1> 500 MIT faculty to be replaced by some Peter Thiel AI project
[14:51:32] <boru> Sheesh, here I was hoping that people would stop prattling on about it after the election...
[14:52:07] <cmn32480> boru - that's a nice dream
[14:52:08] <boru> Hopefully Yellowstone will erupt so they'll all man up a bit.
[14:52:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> me too but there's a certain kinda folks who will never admit that people don't want what they're selling
[14:52:59] <FatPhil> oooh - I can get frist post on that story!
[14:53:02] <n1> because in the history of politics, after the election was done, people stopped talking about it until the next election
[14:53:23] <FatPhil> shit, 3 posts already :(
[14:53:39] <boru> It wasn't as pervasive.
[14:54:01] <boru> Every site I visit is chock full of the same old willy wagging.
[14:54:16] <n1> Possibly before, but i disagree especially when it comes to the Obama presidency
[14:54:19] <boru> "This is my opinion, and if you don't agree you are Adolf Hitler"
[14:54:39] <cmn32480> Is that from the right or the left or both?
[14:54:39] <boru> It's myopic and trite.
[14:54:47] <n1> the framing is the whole 'alt-right' and associated talking heads came from the rejection of Obama
[14:55:18] <n1> and there was plenty of people writing about and calling out Obama on any perceived misstep
[14:55:18] <boru> Politics is a waste product of evolution.
[14:56:12] <n1> and it was damn good, because i learned a lot from that... but it's mind numbing hypocrisy to say Trump is above that and doesn't deserve the critical eye from anyone
[14:56:16] <n1> because he won the election
[14:56:36] <n1> but at the same time, the MIT faculty signing a statement is counter-productive
[14:56:52] <n1> but i think they already know that
[14:57:25] <boru> Slacktivism.
[14:57:28] <n1> you can either support trump, or you can support the liberal elite, it's your choice!
[14:57:33] <boru> Armchair revolutionaries.
[14:58:15] <FatPhil> Someone change the code so that I can be modded up to +100. You can also disable posting to the story, the discussion's over apart from the plaudits from other posters.
[14:58:22] <n1> boru, been very successful for many bureaucracies in the past, you can be an armchair revolutionary, and donate funds/weapons to those who can't afford armchairs.
[14:58:29] <boru> Their idea of rebellion is posting a sentence on Shitter.
[14:58:50] <n1> boru, which was a good platform that helped trump win the election apparently.
[14:59:12] <chromas> http://i.imgur.com
[15:01:05] <n1> everyone i don't like is not hitler, but they have bought into divisive narratives that will ensure the infighting continues and enables the system to otherwise continue on the same path, just with a different veneer used to placate the social groups disaffected by the political rhetoric of the last administration.
[15:02:59] <n1> we can support the new symbol of the people, we can be angry at the people for supporting that symbol or we can be apathetic and above it all
[15:03:20] <n1> one thing we can't be is constructive and engaged directly
[15:04:39] * chromas posts pepe and trump memes
[15:06:48] <n1> i'm waiting for Sec of State to be confirmed so i can find out what nickname completes "Trumpinator, the Mad Dog and .... "
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[15:08:28] * TheMightyBuzzard takes the traditional gen-x approach and becomes sarcastic and nihilistic about it all
[15:09:18] <n1> n1, that is essentially the third option i offered.
[15:09:20] <n1> TheMightyBuzzard,
[15:09:36] <chromas> sure it is
[15:09:45] <chromas> oh wait, he's the sarcastic one
[15:09:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i c what u did there
[15:10:21] <chromas> oh, I bet
[15:10:44] * chromas passes the salt
[15:11:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[15:11:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[15:11:21] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 237
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[15:23:35] <FatPhil> fags--
[15:23:35] <Bender> karma - fags: -2
[15:24:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> fags++ # more bewbs for me
[15:24:00] <Bender> karma - fags: -1
[15:24:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> smoking-- # mostly because stale tobacco smoke smell is super nasty
[15:24:44] <Bender> karma - smoking: -19
[15:24:57] <boru> Only if it's cigarettes.
[15:25:12] <boru> Good Cuban cigars don't smell nearly as bad.
[15:25:34] <boru> partagas++
[15:25:34] <Bender> karma - partagas: 1
[15:25:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> No, stale pipe tobacco smoke smell is nasty too. Even though it's fantastic when it's fresh.
[15:26:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on the flavor. ones with lots of vanilla are good even stale.
[15:26:17] <boru> Flavour?!
[15:26:26] <boru> Vanilla tobacco? Really?
[15:26:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, pipe tobacco always has flavoring
[15:27:01] <boru> Not those that I've smoked.
[15:27:12] <janrinok> perhaps in the US, in the UK it rarely has anything like that
[15:27:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> you've been misinformed
[15:27:44] <boru> Nor Ireland. You get tobacco flavoured tobacco.
[15:27:52] <janrinok> There are different tobaccos, but flavoured ones are not as common as plain tobacco
[15:28:04] <boru> I know flavours have been pretty popular in those electric doo-dahs.
[15:28:22] <janrinok> I don't count those at all!
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[15:29:07] <boru> Aye, I'm just commenting on where I've come across artificially flavoured nicotine, or does this flavoured tobacco actually have vanilla seeds/stalks in it?
[15:29:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://pipesmagazine.com
[15:29:39] <exec> └─ 13What is Cavendish? :: General Pipe Smoking Discussion :: Pipe Smokers Forums
[15:30:39] * boru shudders
[15:31:06] <boru> Actually, I think I have come across flavoured tobacco, but it was chewing tobacco.
[15:31:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> hands down the most common pipe tobacco in the us. untreated cigarette tobacco sold as pipe tobacco aside.
[15:31:31] <boru> Hmm. Interesting.
[15:31:49] <cmn32480> I hate conference calls
[15:32:02] <boru> So do they have fruits of the forest, or roast chicken dinner?
[15:33:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly booze or vanilla or chocolate from what i've seen/smoked
[15:34:18] <boru> I see.
[15:34:35] <boru> You should be able to get Cuban cigars there now, since the embargo with Cuba has been lifted, right?
[15:34:42] <boru> That was a deal breaker for living in the US.
[15:35:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i prefer the less adulterated varieties myself but i grew up smelling a variety heavy on vanilla so it has nostalgia for me
[15:35:32] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[15:35:38] <boru> Fair enough.
[15:36:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wouldn't count on it staying lifted. obama go byebye in a month n change along with his policies.
[15:36:32] <boru> ISTR it being Carter who tried to lift it, originally, right?
[15:36:45] <boru> I could be way off the mark, there.
[15:37:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno, i was busy chasing frogs and poking things with a stick when carter was in office
[15:37:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> had no interest in politics till reagan
[15:53:53] <FatPhil> Carter was relatively bland in the UK media.
[15:54:52] <FatPhil> Most UK outlets kinda liked Ronnie Raygun, as there was this honeymoon period of thatcherism that was giving the country a bit of a short-lived boost.
[15:55:15] <FatPhil> the two were in bed with each other, if he's OK with her, he's OK with us.
[15:56:01] <FatPhil> Little did we know he was a senile sockpuppet of big business expansionism.
[15:56:15] <n1> who'd have thought it, corporate media liking corporate puppet!
[15:56:28] <FatPhil> we had less media overlap in those days
[15:56:41] <n1> it was more the turning point no?
[15:56:51] <FatPhil> When did Murdoch start getting really big in US media?
[15:56:52] <n1> the expansion and cementing of the murdoch empire
[15:57:13] <n1> i meant more about UK media than US
[15:57:32] <FatPhil> 80s was a fairly big shake-up time in UK media
[15:58:13] <n1> that's what i meant, and it was a shake up that benefited the governments of the day
[15:58:14] <FatPhil> That's one of the reasons /The Independent/ came into existence, it was clear that there were fewer and fewer sources
[15:59:18] <FatPhil> Since then, it's got even worse. It's a bit like democracy, things tend towards less choice.
[15:59:20] <n1> i have family who reject the new official story of the hillsborough disaster, because of what they read in the papers and what thatcher said when it happened
[15:59:56] <n1> "if you were there at the time, you'd know x and y happened, it was in all the papers"
[15:59:57] <FatPhil> I have some unpopular views about that
[16:00:10] <FatPhil> My views are independent of what was in the papers.
[16:00:13] <n1> there's nuanced view to be had
[16:00:41] <n1> i have no personal investment in it, but the recent reports have come out and 'mistakes were made'
[16:01:02] <n1> but certain members of my family fall back on "but thatcher said... and she was the best PM since Churchill"
[16:01:33] <FatPhil> The police enabled, and perhaps encouraged, the situation that took place. But deep down it was human beings who were the pamploma bulls pushing other people.
[16:01:46] <n1> but then they also read the daily mail (but not the politics, sports of celebrity articles...)
[16:01:53] <n1> or
[16:01:56] <FatPhil> I grew up to the Daily Mail.
[16:02:01] <n1> FatPhil, as someone who has been in many large crowds
[16:02:10] <n1> when suddenly you get movement in a direction, you can't stop that tide
[16:02:26] <FatPhil> Yeah - but it's not *spontanious*
[16:02:32] <n1> the people are just like water at that point and the police opened the gates
[16:02:57] <FatPhil> *and people pushed*
[16:03:11] <n1> people pushed because there was theoretically a place to go
[16:03:18] <FatPhil> that's the final clause that is now politically correct to overlook.
[16:04:02] <FatPhil> the people who can fill the place that can now be gone to are *not* the ones pushing
[16:04:18] <n1> i can only come at it from the perspective of being in a crowd and not having much agency over the direction im heading it in
[16:04:54] <n1> and i sure as hell can be pushing too, to try and protect myself from undesirable directions and stop being separated from friends/family etc
[16:04:56] <FatPhil> Yeah, been there. I tried to just float along with the flow, my only concern being uprightness, or finding a way out
[16:05:44] <n1> and that's what will have happened, gates got opened, so people moved forward, momentum happened, but there wasn't any way to disperse the crowd once inside
[16:06:28] <FatPhil> *and people pushed*
[16:06:30] <n1> i wasn't there, and the crowd can share the blame, but i can see how it happened very easily
[16:06:54] <FatPhil> not all people, some people. But it's politically incorrect to mention that nowadays, because some of those people died.
[16:07:08] <FatPhil> Sure, it's a pretty common stampede behaviour.
[16:07:14] <FatPhil> River Ganges, every fucking year
[16:07:49] <FatPhil> I think the highest death toll at the Ganges is about 3000 people, which makes Hillsboro' look like a gnat's fart.
[16:08:36] <FatPhil> that's probably the injured count, not the death toll.
[16:09:33] <FatPhil> A person may be smart, but people in large numbers become stupid, and crowds just seem to have a resonant stupidity.
[16:10:13] <n1> someone pushes you, you fall into someone else, who falls into someone else, who then goes fuck this shit, i'm already squashed here and pushes back
[16:10:32] <n1> then the person who pushed in the first place ends up being pushed back, gets more angry and pushes again
[16:10:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> at the metal shows, we call that a "mosh pit" and consider it fun.
[16:10:50] <n1> and then the stampede happens, if there is a sq ft of room 'forward'
[16:10:54] <FatPhil> and that person has no brain, and is a danger to human life
[16:11:23] * FatPhil is a fairly regular mosher. we have very friendly mosh pits in scandinavia.
[16:11:52] <n1> but to the person behind them, it creates a 'we're moving forward now... but why are the people to my right moving forward more than me?!'
[16:12:27] <n1> when you get thousands of people together in a small space, it only takes a very small number to set off the rest into a bad situation
[16:12:40] <FatPhil> yup, it's hydraulic.
[16:13:08] <n1> and mosh pits are fun times, and no matter how responsible people are, someone who wasn't paying attention gets an elbow in the face
[16:13:09] <FatPhil> pressure flows better than the bodies do
[16:13:55] <n1> "if we let them onto the stage, maybe they'll stop moshing"
[16:14:31] <FatPhil> The only time I've ended up with a bloodied nose was when some twat who had no interest in moshing just barged through it from one side to the other.
[16:15:12] <n1> i've not ended up bleeding, but i've seen it happen
[16:15:26] <n1> and i've had the pleasure of being kicked in the face by people stage diving
[16:15:38] <FatPhil> with clod-hoppers
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[16:16:08] <FatPhil> maybe even with studded denim/leather accoutrements
[16:16:19] <n1> but then i've also seen those same people be dropped on their heads
[16:16:34] <FatPhil> no damage done
[16:16:45] <n1> usually the booze seems to stop any serious injuries
[16:16:54] <n1> i've seen a few that looked like broken necks or backs
[16:17:19] <n1> times when coming over the front and security didn't catch them, landing on the steel step and looking like they snapped in half
[16:19:09] <FatPhil> I don't tend to like gigs with a crowd-density so high that crowd-surfing is possible
[16:19:09] <n1> https://www.youtube.com
[16:19:11] <exec> └─ 13Lamb Of God / Caliban Wall Of Death @ Wacken - YouTube
[16:19:28] <FatPhil> Randy Blythe was not in the wrong
[16:19:42] <n1> lamb of god are a great band
[16:19:52] <n1> and randy blythe seems like a legit good dude
[16:20:38] <FatPhil> Like hillsboro', there are a range of reasons things went wrong - organisers of the event being a big slice.
[16:22:18] <n1> one show i was at, managed to get the whole crowd to move back 4ft so they could fix the barriers back up
[16:22:38] <n1> the barrier between crowd and stage was falling over because of so much mud/rain
[16:23:02] <n1> those of us on that barrier linked arms and the rest of the crowd moved back 4ft while they repaired it
[16:35:53] <FatPhil> yet another reason to avoid bloody detestible summer festivals
[16:38:46] <n1> depends on the festival, some are pretty great, a self-contained little world of music, art and good times.
[16:38:52] <FatPhil> sorry, "truly" not "bloody". n.p. Edwyn Collins /The Campaign for Real Rock/
[16:39:34] <n1> the big ones that make the news are not though
[16:40:43] <n1> i was a few months old at my first glastonbury, but it's not like those days any more
[16:41:22] <FatPhil> I did a Roskilde once. Meh.
[16:42:28] <FatPhil> There used to be a tiny metal festival in the middle of Estonia, and that was superb. Word got out, it grew, it began to suck a bit more and more as time got on. More international "festival circuit" bands, less character.
[16:43:39] <n1> i know what you mean... a festival that's kind of survived that is Beautiful Days, it's still bigger than it used to be, but the organisers decided that it didn't need to grow any more
[16:44:01] <n1> so it hasn't lost all its character by outgrowing itself, but the crowd has changed over the last 10 years
[16:44:28] <n1> a lot less 'new age traveller' types, a lot more brand new VW camper types
[16:47:48] <n1> but in general it's a lot more 'middle class role playing as hippies' than it ever used to be at most festivals
[16:48:08] <n1> which is understandable since festival tickets are around £200 each these days
[16:48:47] <FatPhil> I'd want hot and cold running prostitutes for that money
[16:50:31] <n1> sadly the facilities are as good as ever... 'at some time today there will be water and toilets on this field'
[16:50:51] <FatPhil> Estonia's pulling itself out of being a poor country since independence (we first went to the metal festival in ~2002), and we've noticed that the disposable income is shooting up. Everything's doubled in price in the last decade.
[16:51:14] <FatPhil> (Which implies a 7% inflation rate for that subset of the basket)
[16:52:05] <n1> i'm assuming estonia calculates inflation the same as everywhere else to avoid those kind of awkward statistics
[16:52:39] <n1> but it wouldn't surprise me, wealthier population can afford to spend more for the same every year, because they're getting wealthier every year anyway
[16:53:22] <FatPhil> Sure, accomodation costs havne't moved much, day-to-day food and clothes ditto.
[16:53:58] <FatPhil> the non-essentials, the things that those who have spare money to throw around throw it towards, have shot up.
[16:54:04] <n1> that's good
[16:54:10] <n1> although i expect it wont last much longer
[16:54:43] <n1> but maybe i'm just too biased with my london centric perceptions of accommodation costs
[16:55:15] <n1> where for every 1% technical wage increase, accommodation goes up 10% effectively
[16:55:23] <FatPhil> yikes
[16:55:48] <FatPhil> The problem is that 90% of my expenditure is on non-essentials now.
[16:56:03] <n1> that seems like a good problem to have
[16:56:41] <FatPhil> Yes, and the socialist in me likes that I can control where I spend the money. I'm good for plenty of small businesses here.
[16:56:47] <n1> FatPhil, the govermment's definition of 'affordable housing' in the south east of england is £450,000
[16:57:09] <n1> so you can get the government subsidy to help you borrow more to buy the 'affordable' £450,000 apartment
[16:57:31] <FatPhil> That's scary. I guess it depends on the exact region.
[16:57:50] <n1> in the rest of the country there's a different definition, but in the south east that's how it works
[16:57:51] <FatPhil> I remember South Harrow being half of Pinner prices.
[16:58:07] <n1> so they can build 100 apartments at nearly half a million each
[16:58:18] <n1> and the government gets to claim "we have enabled 100 affordable houses to be built!"
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[16:59:08] <n1> it would be ok if london wages were relative to it
[16:59:15] <khallow> howdy
[16:59:28] <n1> but i still go back to when i started my apprenticeship, got a bigger wage than the rest of them because i worked in London
[16:59:47] <n1> but by year two of the apprenticeship, they all had rented houses to live in which they could afford
[16:59:49] <FatPhil> I remember "london weighting" on my first salary
[16:59:58] <n1> people 4 or 5 years into the job in london were still living with parents
[17:00:17] <n1> so that extra 15% or whatever it was, didn't help shit
[17:00:30] <n1> i used to spend more on parking than i'd get paid of a day.
[17:00:54] <n1> could claim it back, eventually
[17:01:01] <FatPhil> I confess to having 2 years with my parents after uni. But my job was walking distance from where they lived, anytihng else would have been stupidity. My dad chaged me rent extremely fairly that would have been impossible to match.
[17:01:23] <n1> FatPhil, it's sensible to do it
[17:01:27] <n1> my point is more about options
[17:01:42] <FatPhil> Parking's crazy. 24h here - right in the centre of the capital is about 15m in London.
[17:02:08] <FatPhil> having options is always good.
[17:02:21] <n1> but the lack of options is why i'm not in london right now
[17:02:32] <n1> i'm not putting any more of my time into that rat race
[17:03:06] <n1> i'd rather earn 1/4 of the money with a slightly lower standard of living, but have some fresh air and a bit less stress
[17:03:15] <FatPhil> When I noticed there was some free space in town, I thought "shit, if this was london, I could make a killing offering guarded parking", and then I noticed that there were loads of EuroParks around charging bugger all - so there's no money in that at all.
[17:03:29] <FatPhil> n1: come to Estonia!
[17:03:58] <FatPhil> In the capital city, all public transport is free!
[17:04:37] <n1> i hadn't thought much about estonia, seems like it would be rather cold. although what i've read about the place seems generally positive
[17:05:12] <FatPhil> It's a cheaper version of Finland in some ways.
[17:05:36] * FatPhil ^A D, ^D, ifdown ...
[17:08:43] <n1> not sure about learning the language either
[17:09:19] <khallow> ugh, still banging head on math problem
[17:09:51] <cmn32480> khallow - I assure you, 2+2 DOES =4
[17:09:52] <khallow> I have an equation that needs to hold, but I neither know if it does hold or what significance the equation has
[17:10:02] <n1> cmn32480, beat me to it
[17:10:05] <khallow> depends what system you're using
[17:10:14] <cmn32480> binary
[17:11:39] <khallow> anyway, I'm taking one of the usual routes to generating new math. Prepending a prefix to everything
[17:11:49] <khallow> here, "quasi"
[17:12:29] <khallow> I have a quasialternative algebra with a quasijacobian identity
[17:12:54] <khallow> the problem right now is that I have this suspicion that it's quasiBS to some degree
[17:13:57] <khallow> or is that a quasisuspicion?
[17:14:14] * cmn32480 is sure that the only quasimath he can quasihandle is quasigeneric fourfunction quasicalculations
[17:15:02] <khallow> I quasifind that quasiinteresting
[17:15:36] <khallow> what are you doing where you get four function quasicalculations?
[17:16:03] <cmn32480> guessing mostly
[17:16:12] <cmn32480> I find that a dart board works best
[17:16:29] <khallow> it's a tried and true variation of the monte carlo method
[17:17:18] <cmn32480> but zero is the most often hit number... as that si the wall that surrounds the board
[17:17:28] <khallow> there's a story of some nuclear weapons scientists figuring out whether a bomb would work
[17:18:03] <khallow> by drawing random trajectories on a cross-section drawing of a theoretical nuclear weapon.
[17:18:29] <cmn32480> so.... it was a wag?
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[17:18:45] <khallow> with rulers and maybe dice too
[17:19:56] <khallow> My half-orc neutron goes exploring the tritium enriched lands of despair
[17:20:04] <khallow> DM: you're eaten by a grue!
[17:21:36] <khallow> BTW, how did you get exec to trigger there?
[17:22:20] <cmn32480> I'm special
[17:22:44] <khallow> wag?
[17:22:48] <cmn32480> there are certain privs that the op and admins on the bot have
[17:22:54] <cmn32480> Wild Ass Guess
[17:23:06] <cmn32480> one of the privs is called destination override
[17:23:07] <khallow> I was trying to get exec to do something
[17:23:10] <khallow> ok
[17:23:25] <cmn32480> so I can run a command in a different channel, and have it dump here
[17:23:40] <khallow> ok, that's pretty clever
[17:23:52] <exec> you, sir, are the son of a motherless goat!
[17:23:53] <khallow> like sawing a woman in half without generating a felony
[17:25:53] <cmn32480> kinda
[17:32:01] <khallow> ugh. I'm napping. Brain no work
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[17:52:05] <FatPhil> bacon++
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[17:54:16] <FatPhil> paulaner++
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[17:54:40] <FatPhil> /me is in the pub having his evening meal, and life is good
[18:23:24] <mechanicjay> I would love to visit a real pub again
[18:52:14] <boru> I prefer Weihenstephaner to Paulaner, personally.
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[21:17:56] <khallow> I'm a bit disappointed
[21:18:06] <khallow> price is an object in that last story
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[23:09:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite xhedit
[23:09:28] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[23:10:35] <MrPlow> #fite xhedit falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[23:11:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite FatPhil
[23:11:10] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[23:13:06] <MrPlow> #fite TheMightyBuzzard falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[23:15:52] -!- charon [charon!~0c0959f3@Soylent/Staff/Editor/charon] has joined #Soylent
[23:15:52] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v charon] by Aphrodite
[23:17:16] <Aphrodite> #fite FatPhil
[23:17:16] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[23:17:20] <MrPlow> #fite Aphrodite falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[23:23:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.thelayoff.com
[23:23:49] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[23:23:51] <exec> └─ 13Solaris being canned, at least 50% of teams to be RIF'd in short term - post regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs
[23:23:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg
[23:24:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://www.phoronix.com
[23:24:37] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[23:24:38] <exec> └─ 13Oracle Might Be Canning Solaris - Phoronix
[23:24:44] * TheMightyBuzzard smakes MrPlow
[23:27:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://testing.googleblog.com
[23:27:26] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[23:27:27] <exec> └─ 13Google Testing Blog: Announcing OSS-Fuzz: Continuous Fuzzing for Open Source Software
[23:27:32] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles
[23:28:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly all-js
[23:28:57] <chromas> We should all be using Haiku anyhow
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[23:30:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i would but i can't spell haiku
[23:31:08] <chromas> ray cyst
[23:32:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> fine: 俳句
[23:33:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> had to look it up though. my keyboard ain't got em funny pictures.
[23:34:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> i even tried drawin em on a couple of the keys with a sharpie
[23:34:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> that din work though cause the keys was already black
[23:35:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> so they dindu nuffin
[23:35:29] <chromas> black-on-black isn't a thing
[23:37:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> is too. s'called ebony. lookit up on any pr0n site.
[23:37:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g ebony site:pornhub.com
[23:37:57] <MrPlow> http://www.pornhub.com - "Watch Ebony porn videos for free, here on Pornhub.com. Sort movies by Most Relevant and catch the best full length Ebony movies now!"
[23:40:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> great, now i've distracted everyone with nudity and have nobody to shitpost with.
[23:40:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[23:40:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[23:40:20] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 238
[23:40:45] <chromas> would've been amusing for pirnhub to buy vine
[23:40:58] <chromas> #MoneyshotVines
[23:42:47] <khallow> Wow, Solaris going away? Took a while
[23:43:02] <khallow> I remember seeing it on the nice computers I wasn't allowed to touch
[23:43:11] <khallow> back when I was an undergrad
[23:43:19] <khallow> around 1990 I guess
[23:46:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, how many real proper unixes does that leave?
[23:47:42] <chromas> is Xenex still around? :D
[23:48:03] <chromas> s/e/i/2
[23:48:05] <exec> <chromas> is Xenix still around? :D
[23:49:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> BSD's proper dead though it does have its spiritual successors
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[23:52:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wonder... what could i make the site look like with just some css tweaks?
[23:53:39] <chromas> beta
[23:56:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russian Space Agency Confirms Progress Cargo Spacecraft Burns up in Atmosphere - http://sylnt.us - is-it-a-bird?-is-it-a-plane?
[23:57:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was thinking maybe lcars
[23:58:52] <chromas> ooh, then you need to make it drag in impact or steelfish font