#Soylent | Logs for 2016-11-22
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[00:02:02] <chromas> "Why this is not a Vimeo Staff Pick?"
[00:05:27] <mechanicjay> lol, wtf.
[00:07:40] Fnord666|afk is now known as Fnord666
[00:09:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> soda++
[00:09:26] <Bender> karma - soda: 2
[00:11:44] <pinchy> soda!!
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[00:13:09] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, USA, 17°C/63°F, 4:13 pm GMT-8, Monday, 21 November 2016
[00:13:19] <Ethanol-fueled> I fucking did it guys...passed the last class I needed to graduate
[00:13:25] <cmn32480> !woop
[00:13:25] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[00:13:32] <mechanicjay> congrats
[00:13:33] <Ethanol-fueled> 12 years of blood, sweat, and tears for a 4 year degree, hahaha
[00:13:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> just in case anyone was wondering, dh 8192 bit key generation is still going. that's nine hours so far.
[00:13:43] <cmn32480> {{{{{Ethanol-Fueled}}}}}}}
[00:13:59] <cmn32480> way to go man
[00:13:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot!
[00:14:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Thanks fellas.
[00:14:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> beers are on you
[00:14:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Yet another good memory to associate with SoylentNews
[00:14:41] * cmn32480 hig fives Ethanol-fueled
[00:14:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, actually, I'm about to step out now and get some swill. I'll be around later, though maybe not in IRC
[00:14:53] <cmn32480> s/hig/high/
[00:14:53] <sedctl> <cmn32480> high fives Ethanol-fueled
[00:14:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Have a good evening, fellas.
[00:14:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[00:15:12] <pinchy> art history major?
[00:15:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, for Subsentient -- I don't know the torrent for Pink Flamingos. Use the search in a torrent tracker, it's a very popular movie
[00:15:31] <cmn32480> [poli sci
[00:15:40] <Ethanol-fueled> pinchy, computer science
[00:15:52] <Ethanol-fueled> an admittedly easy program but still a huge pain in the ass
[00:16:09] <Ethanol-fueled> anywaY, peace out fellas!
[00:16:10] <pinchy> 12 years? must have seen a lot of stuff come and go
[00:16:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> now you're qualified to be a noobass java coder!
[00:16:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, one rung above Indian farm worker
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[00:17:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> that feller there is all about the hit n run lately
[00:18:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, dirk gently time
[00:55:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hackers Electrocute Selves in Quest to Turn Secure Doors from Outside - http://sylnt.us - "don't-tell-my-wife"
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[01:03:35] <cmn32480> ~define hypergolic buttsauce
[01:03:37] <exec> hypergolic buttsauce: unable to find definition
[01:03:46] <cmn32480> ~define buttsauce
[01:03:48] <exec> buttsauce: unable to find definition
[01:03:53] <cmn32480> ~define hypergolic
[01:03:54] <exec> hypergolic: unable to find definition
[01:04:01] <cmn32480> you suck exec
[01:07:50] <Bytram> cmn32480: IIRC hypergolic means that simply combining two chemicals results in a [violently] hyperthermic reaction -- think rocket engine kind of stuff
[01:08:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~define-add hypergolic buttsauce, what anything on a menu with over three out of five peppers will become in a few hours
[01:08:25] <exec> definition for term "hypergolic buttsauce" set to "what anything on a menu with over three out of five peppers will become in a few hours"
[01:08:47] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ truth
[01:08:47] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 266
[01:09:30] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org "A hypergolic propellant combination used in a rocket engine is one whose components spontaneously ignite when they come into contact with each other."
[01:09:32] <exec> └─ 13Hypergolic propellant - Wikipedia
[01:09:48] <Bytram> "A hypergolic propellant combination used in a rocket engine is one whose components spontaneously ignite when they come into contact with each other."
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[01:24:48] <SoyCow7288> aw fuk I'm a soycow
[01:25:04] SoyCow7288 is now known as Soybull
[01:25:16] <Soybull> who wants to milk the soy bull?
[01:25:36] <Soybull> The milk takes awhile to come out, but when it does, it all comes out at once.
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[01:27:15] <chromas> three out of five peppers?
[01:27:38] <chromas> oh, is that a rating?
[01:38:06] <Bytram> I guess so. pedantic mode: *over* three out of five peppers
[01:38:24] <Bytram> so 4 or 5 peppers on a scale of 1 - 5
[01:39:01] <Bytram> break time -- biab
[01:55:47] <chromas> Maybe 3.2 peppers
[02:03:22] * Subsentient sprays chunky vomit on the floor, ceiling, and walls.
[02:10:54] <cmn32480> #fite swiss
[02:10:54] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[02:10:58] <MrPlow> #fite cmn32480 falls broken at swiss's feet.
[02:14:08] <Bytram> #fitectl weapon spicy hot chili peppers
[02:14:08] <MrPlow> #fite weapon for Bytram set to spicy hot chili peppers.
[02:14:10] <Bytram> #fite Subsentient
[02:14:10] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[02:14:13] <MrPlow> #fite Bytram falls broken at Subsentient's feet.
[02:14:35] <Bytram> lol
[02:14:42] <Subsentient> Muahahahaha
[02:14:53] <Bytram> #fite weapon broadsword
[02:14:53] * MrPlow #fite looks around but doesn't see weapon broadsword
[02:15:01] <Bytram> #fitectl scoreboard
[02:15:02] <MrPlow> #fite scoreboard updated: https://sylnt.us
[02:15:16] <cmn32480> that now autoupdates post fite bytram
[02:15:23] <Bytram> YAYYYYY!
[02:15:26] <cmn32480> bookmark it
[02:15:44] Bytram is now known as Bytram|fite
[02:15:59] <Bytram|fite> #fitectl extra spicy chili peppers
[02:16:04] <Bytram|fite> #fite Subsentient
[02:16:04] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[02:16:29] <MrPlow> #fite Bytram|fite falls broken at Subsentient's feet.
[02:16:49] <Subsentient> Bytram|fite: Lick me grandpa
[02:17:32] Bytram|fite is now known as Bytramm
[02:17:38] <Bytramm> #fite Subsentient
[02:17:38] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[02:17:43] <MrPlow> #fite Bytramm falls broken at Subsentient's feet.
[02:17:52] <cmn32480> ~say #fite Subsentient
[02:17:54] <exec> #fite Subsentient
[02:17:54] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[02:17:56] <MrPlow> #fite Subsentient falls broken at exec's feet.
[02:18:02] <cmn32480> you are avenged
[02:18:05] Subsentient is now known as LordGerbilius
[02:18:09] <LordGerbilius> #fite exec
[02:18:09] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[02:18:17] <MrPlow> #fite LordGerbilius falls broken at exec's feet.
[02:18:23] LordGerbilius is now known as LordGerbilius_
[02:18:24] <LordGerbilius_> #fite exec
[02:18:24] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[02:18:26] <MrPlow> #fite exec falls broken at LordGerbilius_'s feet.
[02:18:29] <cmn32480> ~nelson LordGerbilius
[02:18:30] <exec> 03LordGerbilius: HA! HA!
[02:18:37] * Bytramm thinks he may have started something... oh my!
[02:18:43] LordGerbilius_ is now known as Subsentient
[02:19:00] <Subsentient> cmn32480: Lick me grandpa
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[02:20:22] * grandpa licks Subsentient
[02:20:28] <Subsentient> YAYYYY
[02:20:44] <Subsentient> grandpa: My nipple are full of pus, I need you to suck the infected cheese from my man titties.
[02:20:49] * cmn32480 notes that grandpa is getting ganggreen on his tongue
[02:20:57] * grandpa spits out the putrid taste in his mouth
[02:22:07] * grandpa was not expecting such a putrid and purile person and pursues a path to put the past behind
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[02:22:20] <Subsentient> This thinkpad T410 only supports 8GB of memory, but the next one up, the T420, has an electrically identical motherboard and supports 16GB. Evil plan currently hatching.
[02:22:54] <Bytramm> put 1 + 1 together and get 10? (in binary)
[02:22:59] GreatOutdoors|AWAY is now known as GreatOutdoors
[02:23:25] <Subsentient> Thinking I'll buy a T420 motherboard and replace the one in my T410 :^D
[02:24:00] <Bytramm> oh. I thought you were gonna figure out which jumpers you needed to add
[02:24:06] <GreatOutdoors> actually that would be 3.
[02:24:24] <GreatOutdoors> (11)
[02:24:27] <Subsentient> Bytramm: the CPU and chipset only support 8GB so I got two things working against me.
[02:25:00] <Bytramm> ahhh, got it.
[02:25:21] <Subsentient> Bytramm: So I'd need to get the T420 motherboard and a 2nd-gen PGA988 i7 CPU.
[02:25:24] <Bytramm> umm, no. one plus one is two which is 10
[02:25:56] <Bytramm> how much less expensive is that compared to just getting a new t420
[02:25:57] <GreatOutdoors> You said put them together, not add them.
[02:26:03] <GreatOutdoors> 1 and 1 = 11
[02:26:20] <Subsentient> Bytramm: I can find a board for $20 and a CPU for $15 so it's still cheap.
[02:26:59] <Bytramm> nod nod -- if you are up to it, definitely sound slike the way to go. Best of luck to ya!
[02:27:29] <Subsentient> Thanks. Not sure if I will or not. I mean I run Linux and I only got 4GB of RAM right now, and that's actually pretty much enough for me.
[02:27:45] <Subsentient> I ordered another 4GB module to put in one of my slots to bring me to 6GB
[02:28:05] <GreatOutdoors> I have 12GB in mine so I can run AutoCAD smoothlly
[02:29:41] Bytramm is now known as Bytram
[02:30:24] <Subsentient> The CPU: http://www.ebay.com
[02:30:27] <exec> └─ 13Intel Core i5 2520M 2.5GHz Dual-Core (FF8062700840017) Processor
[02:30:36] <Subsentient> The board: http://www.ebay.com
[02:30:39] <exec> └─ 13Genuine Lenovo Thinkpad T420 14" Intel Motherboard 63Y1697 | eBay
[02:30:50] <Subsentient> And for perspective, the T410 board. http://www.ebay.com
[02:30:52] <exec> └─ 13LOT of 5 - GOOD Lenovo Thinkpad T410 Laptop Motherboard WORKING PULL 04W0503 | eBay
[02:31:02] <fffd> i7 cpus that would fit a t420 were quite expensive when i treid to find one few months ago
[02:31:32] <Subsentient> I'm fine with an i5 with a high clock speed tbh.
[02:31:57] <fffd> you would need to find a dual core i7 as well
[02:32:14] <fffd> tried a quadcore i7 in mine, got crazy hot
[02:32:24] <fffd> so probably no point in using anything other than i5 ye
[02:32:41] <Subsentient> fffd: I'd just kick the fan to max.
[02:33:06] <Subsentient> As long as it stays around 140F I'm happy.
[02:33:10] <fffd> it will start throttling though
[02:33:20] <Subsentient> There's ways to bypass that too
[02:33:28] <fffd> hehe i guess
[02:33:33] <chromas> watercool it man
[02:33:37] <fffd> but its probably there for a good reason
[02:33:54] <Subsentient> fffd: Yeah I suppose hehe
[02:34:01] <fffd> but ye, better fit a watercooler in it indeed
[02:34:23] <Subsentient> I'd rather have a CPU with a high clockspeed and 2 cores than one with a low one and 6 cores tbh.
[02:34:41] <fffd> yea in most cases probably is better
[02:34:46] <fffd> guess depends what you do
[02:35:03] <Subsentient> fffd: I almost never use threading in any of my code, soo yeah.
[02:35:04] <chromas> you could be -j6'ing though
[02:35:34] <Subsentient> chromas: I already -j4 on my i5 520m because of 2 cores, 4 threads.
[02:36:18] <chromas> but 6 is two more js
[02:36:40] <Subsentient> They don't even make a 6-core that fits this thing hehe
[02:37:15] <Subsentient> Fan is currently at 5600RPM and cores are ~105F
[02:37:25] <Subsentient> Laptop's on my bed which is why I kicked up the fan
[02:37:55] <chromas> put it on a book or something
[02:38:02] <Subsentient> Nah, too lazy
[02:38:23] * chromas dreams of a day laptops put the intake on the back or something instead of the bottom, which is a dumb place to put it
[02:38:31] <chromas> "but muh thinness!"
[02:38:45] <Subsentient> chromas: Agreed.
[02:39:07] <Subsentient> Thing stays cool even sitting on my big quilt if I keep the fan up high.
[02:39:34] <chromas> put a 12" fan on it with a duct to the intake
[02:40:26] <GreatOutdoors> I remember my old ~1Ghz tower I had back when I was 16... It would keep the room warm in the winter..
[02:40:57] <GreatOutdoors> AMD Athlon or something
[02:42:49] <Subsentient> GreatOutdoors: Yeah until recently my Pentium 4 server did the same
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[02:43:31] * chromas had board with a couple athlon MPs until the cooler snorted too many dusts
[02:44:25] <Subsentient> AMD sure does like to run hot. At least the old ones. Newer AMDs I'm finding keep pretty cool.
[02:45:45] <chromas> well back then they wouldn't clock down or anything to prevent overheating
[02:46:18] <Subsentient> True.
[02:46:45] <Subsentient> I kinda like how AMD just kicks up clock speeds to hilariously high levels, like 5Ghz
[02:46:59] <Subsentient> Can't make a more efficient chip so just make one that goes ZOOM
[02:47:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothin wrong with zoom
[02:47:55] <GreatOutdoors> In reality, who cares how much heat it generates if it is in a PC that is plugged in and the fan is running, as long as it throttles down when on battery.
[02:48:10] <cmn32480> I close the door heat my home office that way
[02:48:40] <Subsentient> lol
[02:48:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> desktop, yo. when it comes to heat, there's me and honeybadgers
[02:49:09] <cmn32480> ~define honeybadger
[02:49:10] <exec> honeybadger: unable to find definition
[02:49:20] <cmn32480> #smake exec...
[02:49:20] * MrPlow smakes exec... upside the head with a bag of farticles
[02:49:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~define-add honeybadger, they don't give a fuuuuuck
[02:49:32] <exec> definition for term "honeybadger" set to "they don't give a fuuuuuck"
[02:50:18] <Subsentient> Like the non-overclocked AMD best is currently 4Ghz
[02:53:52] <Bytram> ~submit http://www.securitynewspaper.com
[02:53:56] <exec> └─ 13Hackers Program Bank ATMs to Spew Cash
[02:54:27] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[02:54:45] <chromas> do ATMs scan bills to track their serial numbers?
[02:55:09] <Bytram> I've asked that question on a few occasions and have yet to receive a confirmation
[02:56:39] <chromas> What happens to bills when I insert them into an ATM? Are they considered invalid? If I take them out without decrementing an account somewhere, would that count as counterfeiting?
[02:57:13] <chromas> I mean, once the bills' value is added to my account, are the bills considered worthless until their value is taken from an account later on
[02:58:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, i want a nap but it's too close to bedtime
[02:58:12] * chromas bets the lawyerese for bills-to-digits is far greater than the security inside atms
[02:58:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> got a belly fulla tacos and in the mood for some quality digesting.
[02:58:44] <chromas> have a wank
[02:59:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> too much bother
[02:59:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know, i'll fite some folks
[02:59:48] <GreatOutdoors> ~fite TheMightyBuzzard
[02:59:56] <GreatOutdoors> hmm..
[02:59:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite GreatOutdoors
[02:59:58] * MrPlow #fite looks around but doesn't see GreatOutdoors
[03:00:09] <GreatOutdoors> eh..?
[03:00:12] * TheMightyBuzzard glares at MrPlow
[03:00:17] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Yupppp
[03:00:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> traitor
[03:00:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Subsentient
[03:00:23] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[03:00:23] <MrPlow> #fite Subsentient's corpse is currently rotting on the ground. Try fighting someone who's alive.
[03:00:25] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: That's why I wrote my own IRC core
[03:00:30] <GreatOutdoors> #fite TheMightyBuzzard
[03:00:30] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[03:00:32] * TheMightyBuzzard pees on Subsentient's corpse
[03:00:40] <GreatOutdoors> Hah!
[03:00:41] <MrPlow> #fite GreatOutdoors falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[03:00:43] Subsentient is now known as fefrefrefref
[03:00:45] <GreatOutdoors> crap..
[03:00:45] <fefrefrefref> $whoami
[03:00:45] <aqu4> You are fefrefrefref!WhiteRat@universe2.us/Subsentient, and you are an admin, and an owner.
[03:00:54] fefrefrefref is now known as Subsentient
[03:00:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite MrPlow
[03:00:57] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[03:00:58] <Subsentient> $whoami
[03:00:58] <aqu4> You are Subsentient!WhiteRat@universe2.us/Subsentient, and you are an admin, and an owner.
[03:01:09] <MrPlow> #fite MrPlow falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[03:01:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite chromas
[03:01:34] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[03:01:40] <chromas> thanks a lot
[03:01:54] <chromas> knew I shoulda taken that left turn at fiting the bots first
[03:02:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> <MrPlow> chromas retrieves their 💩 from the ground
[03:02:22] <MrPlow> #fite chromas falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[03:02:26] <Subsentient> <MrPlow> chromas retrieves their 💩 from the ground
[03:02:29] <GreatOutdoors> 3 in a row seems a lil fishy....
[03:02:42] * GreatOutdoors slaps TheMightyBuzzard around a bit with a large trout
[03:02:51] <Subsentient> $burrito GreatOutdoors
[03:02:51] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at GreatOutdoors
[03:03:50] <GreatOutdoors> Ouch... nasty school bus crash. 6 dead and 23 injured kids...
[03:04:05] <Subsentient> At least they don't have to do their homework.
[03:04:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, even hp with FatPhil
[03:04:15] <GreatOutdoors> Picture showed the tree almost cut the bus in half.
[03:04:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> earn it...
[03:04:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite FatPhil
[03:04:21] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[03:04:22] <chromas> were they trump supporters? #HillaryDitIt
[03:04:41] <chromas> In Russa, tree cut metal
[03:04:52] <GreatOutdoors> Poor kids.
[03:05:18] <MrPlow> #fite FatPhil falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[03:05:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot!
[03:05:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Obama Says He Can’t Pardon Snowden - http://sylnt.us - no-and-no-means-no
[03:05:32] * TheMightyBuzzard struts around victorious
[03:07:46] <Subsentient> Trump's latest message https://www.youtube.com
[03:07:48] <exec> └─ 13A Message from President-Elect Donald J. Trump - YouTube
[03:08:01] <Subsentient> I'm actually kinda liking some of it
[03:08:06] <Subsentient> Especially nuking the TPP
[03:08:19] <Subsentient> I didn't vote for you Trump, but I'm rooting for you.
[03:09:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, he don't talk standard republican message even though the other side really, really wants to pin it on him
[03:09:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> what he actually does, nobody knows yet
[03:09:39] <Subsentient> I've got a feeling he won't be that bad.
[03:09:55] <GreatOutdoors> He talked some good talk at the rallies. I saw him here in OKC.
[03:10:05] <GreatOutdoors> The media of course didn't cover most of it,
[03:10:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ooooh, bedtime
[03:10:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> yays!
[03:10:22] <GreatOutdoors> they just picked a few lines that they coulds skew.
[03:10:23] * TheMightyBuzzard heads out
[03:10:26] <Deucalion> Will be interesting to see what Trump gets up to as President-actual rather than President-elect and electioneering and the media skews on anything in the run up.
[03:10:54] <chromas> He will Trump all the previous presidents
[03:10:56] <Subsentient> Yeah, I hate to say it but I view Trump as a well-intentioned guy with really lame, immature mindsets.
[03:11:09] <chromas> we will Trump the world
[03:11:14] <Subsentient> chromas: He sure Trumped his competition
[03:11:23] <Subsentient> Can't stump the Trump
[03:11:34] <GreatOutdoors> Subsentient: I hope he surprises you
[03:11:46] <chromas> people are still bitching though 'cause the popular vote is still increasing on hillary's side
[03:11:48] <Subsentient> GreatOutdoors: We'll see.
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[03:12:01] <GreatOutdoors> sup charon
[03:12:16] <Deucalion> charon, you need to reg your nick
[03:12:27] * Subsentient vomits down charon's throat
[03:12:32] <Subsentient> Welcome/
[03:13:58] <charon> hiyo
[03:14:32] <charon> Deucalion: I already have
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[03:25:22] <GreatOutdoors> Rough day... first the kids in the school bus, now a train crash in india
[03:25:39] <chromas> " D.C. restaurant apologizes after hosting alt-right dinner with ‘Sieg Heil salute’ "
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[04:39:18] <Subsentient> Man, reading over Fox News and CNN. Diametrically opposing thinly veiled political propaganda. Fucking disgusting. Now I remember why I only use BBC for US news. They're biased too but they at least are halfway honest about it, and don't inject that bias into literally everything.
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[05:07:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - History of Computer Hardware - http://sylnt.us - wikipedia-is-news,-kind-of...
[05:18:41] <GreatOutdoors> They are pretty liberal from my point of view..
[05:20:28] <chromas> try aj+
[05:20:36] <chromas> [trollface.gif]
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[07:15:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oracle Buys Dyn - http://sylnt.us - end-of-dyn
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[08:56:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Have Figured Out the Terrifying Reason London Fog Killed 12,000 People - http://sylnt.us - what-acid-rain-feels-like-for-fish?
[08:56:56] <boru> Click-baity title.
[08:57:28] <boru> "You'll never guess what scientists have figured out about London fog! Click here for the top ten reasons to stop breathing!"
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[09:31:36] <janrinok> ~tell TheMightyBuzzard can you please give caffeine ed privs on prod
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[09:34:05] <chromas> boru: number 3 will eat your soul!
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[09:40:38] <Subsentient> boru: Fixed it
[09:41:00] <Subsentient> janrinok_lurking: Poke
[09:43:35] <janrinok_lurking> here
[09:43:59] <Subsentient> janrinok_lurking: Added some text to the Trump TPP story.
[09:46:40] <janrinok_lurking> OK thanks - I'll just change the paragraph order to match that of the source, but it looks good
[09:47:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Have Figured Out Why London Fog Killed 12,000 People - http://sylnt.us - what-acid-rain-feels-like-for-fish?
[09:47:38] <janrinok_lurking> I've updated - so if you are still in that story you might want to refresh or reload it
[09:47:44] <boru> Unrelated, but can't seem to update my subscription.
[09:47:56] <boru> (Trying to use Stripe, fwiw)
[09:48:53] <janrinok_lurking> I'll have to check with mrcoolbp but I think (could be wrong though) that we have been having problems in this area outside of our control. I'll pass it on to those who know about these things
[09:49:23] <boru> Actually, seems like it's something up with their JS shite; the form for it pops up when I open the page not on my vertical monitor.
[09:49:34] <boru> So, seems to be somehow related to page width, perhaps?
[09:49:56] <janrinok_lurking> dunno - but it will perhaps help in debugging
[09:50:31] <FatPhil> what-acid-rain-feels-like-for-fish isn't a question, and shouldn't have a question mark!!!
[09:51:33] <boru> Well, seems like it worked.
[09:51:46] <janrinok_lurking> ~tell mrcoolbp boru having a problem using Stripe to update his subscription, any ideas? see #soylent at 09:47 utc 22 Nov
[09:51:56] <boru> I'm not anymore!
[09:52:05] <janrinok_lurking> FatPhil, where are you reading that?
[09:52:13] <FatPhil> 11:47 < Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Have Figured Out Why London Fog Killed 12,000 People - http://sylnt.us - what-acid-rain-feels-like-for-fish?
[09:52:16] <exec> └─ 13Scientists Have Figured Out Why London Fog Killed 12,000 People - SoylentNews
[09:54:08] <janrinok_lurking> I think martyb is just trying to pose it as a question but leaving out 2 words from the dept intentionally - i.e. he is implying it should be read as 'is this what acid rain feels like for a fish?'
[09:55:33] <janrinok_lurking> By all means bring it up with him next time you are both on together - I don't feel that it _needs_ changing, but feel free to do so if you have strong feelings yourself
[09:57:05] <janrinok_lurking> Subsentient, did you edit the clickbait title on the london fog story? If so, can you initial your editor's note please
[09:57:27] <Subsentient> ahh k
[10:36:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linux 4.9 Has 'Issues That Just Shouldn't Be Issues'. Or Might Not - http://sylnt.us - wishy-washy
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[11:10:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> #tell janrinok_lurking done
[11:10:58] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
[11:12:03] <boru> #tell MrPlow #tell MrPlow #tell MrPlow Do you do recursion?
[11:12:03] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
[11:12:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> boru, MrPlow don't see what MrPlow says
[11:13:13] <boru> TMB; that can only work for so long. Eventually the consequences will catch up to him.
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[11:14:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's not askeert. i ain't written a be_askeert function for him yet.
[11:14:32] * TheMightyBuzzard waves at n1
[11:15:39] * boru measures the frequency.
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[11:22:45] * Subsentient still loves Fedora despite its flaws
[11:27:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Subsentient
[11:27:31] * MrPlow smakes Subsentient upside the head with a regex
[11:27:46] * Subsentient vomits down TheMightyBuzzard's throat
[11:28:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> Fedora is the Hillary Clinton of Linux distros
[11:28:29] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Upgrading to Fedora 25 now. It's all released, just not on Fedora's site yet.
[11:28:50] <Subsentient> Bullshit. Fedora's like a more polished Arch Linux with a better package manager.
[11:29:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> Fedora is why we have pulseaudio and systemd. It is evil.
[11:30:03] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: No, Red Hat is why we have pulseaudio and systemd.
[11:30:08] <Subsentient> Fedora is a community project.
[11:30:16] <Subsentient> It's backed by Red Hat, but it's still its own thing.
[11:30:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> potato, tomato
[11:30:45] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: They have an independent governing body from Red Hat.
[11:31:25] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[11:31:25] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[11:31:54] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Well say what you want, but I like them better than Debian any day.
[11:32:05] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[11:32:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're both plague carriers at this point.
[11:32:30] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: didn't Arch adopt systemd and pulse?
[11:32:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. and as soon as i remove the lazy i'm getting off it.
[11:33:15] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Or you could just install Epoch.
[11:33:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> too much shit would break
[11:33:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> they got everything tied in nowadays
[11:34:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't decide if i wanna go full gentoo or a binary distro thereof like calculate
[11:34:20] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Hang on there buddy, I'm still working on a new SubLinux 3.
[11:34:30] <Subsentient> This one will have a package manager with dependency support.
[11:34:53] <Subsentient> and it'll be based on Epoch, from scratch.
[11:35:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'good but unless yer at the very least using eudev or similar some shit gonna have issues
[11:35:58] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: It won't be hard to write my own udev replacement, interestingly enough.
[11:36:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good, cause that being tied to systemd and shit being tied to it is largely what causes the breakage
[11:36:55] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Epoch is entirely independent of systemd or any of its baggage.
[11:37:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[11:37:07] <Subsentient> SubLinux 3 will be pure ALSA too
[11:39:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'it, i'm creating a beowulf cluster of raspberry pis and putting gentoo on it
[11:39:29] <Subsentient> lol
[11:39:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> should only take three years to compile the kernel, then i can start in on building everything else
[11:40:31] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Once you have bash, coreutils, and a working kernel, the rest gets a lot easier.
[11:41:07] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[11:41:35] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: It's so satisfying when your OS can compile the rest of itself under its own power.
[11:42:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i thought that about 20 years ago too. then i took an arrow to the knee.
[11:44:15] <chromas> arch has pulse but it isn't required or default installed and everything's better than debian :D
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[11:46:11] <systemd> #smake TheMightyBuzzard
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[11:46:32] <systemd> $burrito yum
[11:46:32] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at yum
[11:47:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll go with calculate since you can either do their precompiled binaries or pull from gentoo's portage tree.
[11:49:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> normally at this point i'd be going back to slackware but man i just can't make myself do the whole tarball dance for half my shit anymore.
[11:49:37] <chromas> port pacman to slack
[11:49:39] <chromas> slackman
[11:50:17] <chromas> ♬I'm a slackman...♬
[11:56:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[11:56:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[11:56:12] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 220
[12:17:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ask Soylent: Where Have All The Good eBook Readers Gone? - http://sylnt.us - way-of-the-dodo
[12:17:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> hello my fiends
[12:23:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday AndyTheAbsurd
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[12:41:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, ima hafta go ahead n go with gentoo i think. binaries are all fine and good but the bigger the distro the better the support base.
[12:41:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i look forward to compiling every update like i look forward to having dental work done though
[12:44:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> okay I have a Linux question
[12:45:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> let me give you the set up first
[12:45:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> shoot
[12:46:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> for reasons of "the previous owners of my house were assholes" and "it's really the reasonably convenient spot to put it", my desktop computer lives in a spot where it has to be connected over WiFi instead of Ethernet.
[12:46:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto to the latter
[12:47:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> Due to this location, the WiFi adapter sees a network named "linksys" as a stronger signal than *my* network, and NetworkManager chooses to connect to the stronger signal whenever I reboot.
[12:48:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm... haven't used NetworkManager in a while
[12:48:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> So my question is: Is there a way to set either "ignore the network named 'linksys'" or "prefer the network named 'Absurd5GHz', if available, above all other networks"?
[12:48:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> undoubtedly. lemme see if i can find out from a vm
[12:49:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> I tried some Googling this morning but everything I found was about telling NM to ignore an *adapter*, not a specifically-named network.
[12:50:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, nope. no wireless from a vm to check with
[12:52:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, there's a Connect Automatically preference for each wireless network in NetworkManager
[12:52:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> uncheck it for the one you don't want to connect to
[12:53:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://askubuntu.com
[12:53:19] <exec> └─ 13wireless - How can I force Network Manager to associate to a specific access point? - Ask Ubuntu
[12:53:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> I *thought* I had already done that...and I'm not at home at the moment so I can't check it.
[12:53:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's for ones with the same SSID, mind you. you can ignore everything but the picture
[12:57:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> using nmcli, i have no idea. i'd need access to figure it out, which i don't want or want to do.
[12:58:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> I *really* want their to be a config file for NM where I can set the priorities of different networks
[12:58:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> here's a pretty good guide to get you started though. https://access.redhat.com
[12:58:42] <exec> └─ 132.3. Using the NetworkManager Command Line Tool, nmcli
[13:01:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[13:01:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[13:01:36] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 221
[13:07:40] <Subsentient> Finished Fedora 25 upgrade. As always, nothing changed. I love that about Fedora. :^P
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[14:13:56] <janrinok> When does the Thanksgiving holiday begin and end in the US? It seems to be something of a moveable feast
[14:20:00] <boru> They like to keep you on your toes, so you never know when you're going to get thanks.
[14:20:24] <boru> Will it be February? August? Next Summer? Who knows!
[14:25:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> janrinok: Technically it's only one day, the fourth Thursday in Novemeber, which makes it the 24th this year. That's the day that federal government, US Post Office, and banks are all closed. A *large* number of people also arrange to have the Friday following off, as that's "Black Friday", generally the biggest shopping day in the US. (So if you work in retail, you don't get it off, it's "all hands on deck" in that sector.)
[14:26:39] <janrinok> thx AndyTheAbsurd
[14:31:03] <janrinok> On the web it says that in some places tomorrow is also a holiday
[14:32:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> I know that a few schools are giving students tomorrow off
[14:32:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> And a few companies will be doing that or giving employees the entire week off
[14:33:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> But it's not hugely common as far as I'm aware.
[14:34:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> The company I worked upstairs from a few years would give all of Thanksgiving week off, then be back for two or three weeks, then give the weeks of both Christmas and New Year's Day off.
[14:34:32] <n1_> question... can windows10 be fixed/made tolerable to use?
[14:34:54] <janrinok> I suppose whether that is viewed as good or bad would depend on how much you got paid over that period
[14:35:28] <janrinok> ~gday n1_ - I saw a web page on that only the other day, I'll see if I can remember where I saw it
[14:35:30] * exec deliciously imagines a doubly-linked list of supernintendo chalmers with n1_
[14:35:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> n1_: a matter of opinion, but I'd say "no, not without more effort than switching to full-time Linux"
[14:36:20] <janrinok> n1_, are you still tied to windows because of your business requirements?
[14:36:39] <n1_> business requirements, and now i'm on the road i don't have a gaming pc
[14:37:04] <n1_> so i'm considering using the pending sales in the US as a time to order a suitable laptop
[14:37:27] <janrinok> makes sense
[14:38:36] <n1_> http://www.newegg.com is tempting at the moment
[14:38:39] <exec> └─ 13MSI 17.3" GP72 Leopard Pro-495 Intel Core i7 6700HQ (2.60 GHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 16 GB Memory 256 GB SSD Windows 10 Home Gaming Laptop - Newegg.com
[14:41:49] <janrinok> any idea how hot these things run nowadays?
[14:42:29] <n1_> if i can fry an egg it will save buying a portable gas hob ;)
[14:43:48] <janrinok> lol, they make a big play about pushing heat out of the notebook, but that suggests (to me, at least) that it is a concern
[14:44:42] <n1_> i think if you're using the GPU to its full potential, it's likely to run rather hot
[14:45:27] <n1_> it's about the same specs overall as my main desktop, but that's in a full tower with a ton of cooling
[14:45:35] <janrinok> My only ever laptop was not only hot but very noisy when the fans kicked in
[14:46:19] <n1_> i currently have two dell e6420's and they're probably the coolest running laptops ive ever had
[14:46:52] <janrinok> well, mine was quite a few years ago now and technology has moved on apace
[14:47:05] <n1_> you could make tea with the heat coming from the heat being pushed out of my old hp and lenovo laptops
[14:47:14] <n1_> too much heat
[14:47:39] <janrinok> mine was an hp - too hot to touch and it ended up discolouring the table it was on
[14:48:40] <n1_> i wont buy another hp or lenovo after the experiences i had with them
[14:49:08] <n1_> mid-range laptops with low end build quality and overheating issues
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[16:17:28] <Leebert> The final nail in the coffin of cable TV is nigh: http://arstechnica.com
[16:17:30] <exec> └─ 13Report: Amazon wants to add live sports streams to Prime | Ars Technica
[16:23:49] <n1_> Amazon might want it, but they're going to have to buy the rights rather than just start up their own sports leagues
[16:24:14] <n1_> and will have to go with the flow as far as all the commercials and advertisements the rights holders will demand continue to be served to the audience
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[21:23:36] <FatPhil> Well, black mirror S03E03 wasn't in any way futuristic at all, that was all current tech!
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[21:50:43] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[21:51:04] <MrPlow> #fite FatPhil falls broken at fffd's feet.
[21:54:53] <boru> It's great to see the TPP get crushed.
[21:56:59] <chromas> <Obama> Quick! Rush dis shit through!
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[23:16:01] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 18°C/64°F, 8:16 pm GMT-3, Tuesday, 22 November 2016
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