#Soylent | Logs for 2016-11-16

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[00:00:43] * TheMightyBuzzard wanders off to make food-like substances and eat them
[00:14:56] <cmn32480> ~say #fite MrPlow
[00:14:57] <exec> #fite MrPlow
[00:14:57] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:15:09] <MrPlow> #fite MrPlow falls broken at exec's feet.
[00:16:22] <swiss> #fitectl scoreboard
[00:16:22] <MrPlow> #fite scoreboard updated: https://sylnt.us
[00:16:37] <swiss> #fite khallow
[00:16:37] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:16:43] <MrPlow> #fite khallow falls broken at swiss's feet.
[00:16:48] <swiss> i am triumphant
[00:16:54] <khallow> ouch
[00:17:03] <khallow> #fitectl status
[00:17:03] <MrPlow> #fite khallow level: 1, hp: 0, weapon: 'fist', armor: 'grungy t-shirt'
[00:17:14] <khallow> I'm like totally broken
[00:18:12] <cmn32480> ~say fite Aphrodite
[00:18:13] <exec> fite Aphrodite
[00:18:19] <cmn32480> ~say #fite Aphrodite
[00:18:21] <exec> #fite Aphrodite
[00:18:21] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:18:32] <cmn32480> swiss.. I suggest fiting whomever wins this one
[00:18:33] <MrPlow> #fite Aphrodite falls broken at exec's feet.
[00:18:44] <cmn32480> ~say #fitectl status
[00:18:46] <exec> #fitectl status
[00:18:46] <MrPlow> #fite exec level: 3, hp: 2, weapon: 'a pair of jiggly juggs', armor: 'gaggle of giggles'
[00:18:59] <cmn32480> ~say #fite swiss
[00:19:01] <exec> #fite swiss
[00:19:01] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[00:19:05] <Deucalion> oh ffs
[00:19:05] <MrPlow> #fite exec falls broken at swiss's feet.
[00:19:16] <cmn32480> what?
[00:19:29] <cmn32480> I'm trying to help the guy level up
[00:19:42] <cmn32480> get im out of the ranks fo the cannon fodder
[00:20:09] <Deucalion> don't mind me, I'm grouchy :)
[00:20:42] <swiss> cmn32480: nice
[00:20:46] * cmn32480 pokes Deucalion
[00:20:50] <chromas> grouchy marx
[00:20:52] <cmn32480> swiss - yer welcome
[00:20:57] <Deucalion> sup cmn32480
[00:20:57] <swiss> #fitectl status
[00:20:57] <MrPlow> #fite swiss level: 3, hp: 7, weapon: 'dragondildo', armor: 'ungodly stench'
[00:21:18] <cmn32480> nothign.. I jsut like poking the grouchy guy to see if he pops
[00:21:33] * Deucalion pops
[00:21:40] <Deucalion> .quiet MrPlow
[00:21:40] -!- mode/#Soylent [+q *!*@nsa.gov] by Aphrodite
[00:22:19] <chromas> #fite Aphrodite
[00:22:32] * chromas probably died
[00:22:42] <cmn32480> lol
[00:22:49] <Deucalion> I expect the result is in #fite no?
[00:22:53] <cmn32480> nope
[00:23:03] <Deucalion> well that is an oversight lol
[00:23:04] <cmn32480> the result posts to the channel you call it in
[00:23:07] <chromas> nothing happened. Perhaps MrPlow takes the hint
[00:23:17] <Deucalion> .unquiet MrPlow
[00:23:17] -!- mode/#Soylent [-q *!*@nsa.gov] by Aphrodite
[00:23:24] <cmn32480> whomever wins the last line fo the fite is the winner
[00:23:31] * cmn32480 runs off to feed his chillens
[00:23:54] <chromas> nothing was emitted in #fite though so maube Aphrodite was already down
[00:24:23] <Deucalion> she was taken down at 18 mins past this hour
[00:24:35] <Deucalion> by exec
[00:24:43] <Deucalion> I have no idea how it works
[00:25:20] * Deucalion heads to bed to dream of another glorious day of work ahead
[00:25:27] <Deucalion> nighters
[00:25:56] <chromas> NC and I had an epic battle in #fite. LAsted for hours
[00:26:12] <chromas> at least, the fallout did
[00:27:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook's Fake News Crisis Deepens - http://sylnt.us - truth-and-nothing-but-the-truth
[00:29:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll allow this to be my favorite song for today: https://www.youtube.com
[00:29:07] <exec> └─ 13STFU - YouTube
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[00:59:35] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[00:59:35] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[00:59:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> happy full belly
[01:04:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fitectl scoreboard
[01:04:30] <MrPlow> #fite scoreboard updated: https://sylnt.us
[01:07:44] <chromas> aw, my utils are low
[01:07:47] <chromas> or thetans
[01:08:02] <chromas> midi chlorians
[01:08:55] * TheMightyBuzzard pours bleach on chromas's electric piano
[01:09:22] <chromas> just like hillary's server
[01:09:26] <chromas> or was it acid wash?
[01:09:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> no that was back in the 80s
[01:09:43] <chromas> duuude
[01:10:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean she's old enough to remember the 80s but no way did she look good in guess jeans during them
[01:13:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> turning into a loong evening. think ima read a book to kill some time till bedtime.
[01:33:39] <Leebert> I can't remember, is anyone in here European?
[01:43:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, several, yeah.
[01:49:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg, i finished that book already. now i need something else to do.
[01:51:46] <chromas> You have just the one book?
[01:52:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes. i'm always surprised he eats the green eggs and ham at the end though.
[01:54:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> du -hs ~/Calibre\ Library: 340M /home/bob/Calibre Library
[01:57:36] <Leebert> Just trying to lazyweb the train system...
[01:58:00] <Leebert> I've only done trains in the UK, except one Eurostar run to Paris.
[01:59:16] <Leebert> It's a little confusing exactly how one is expected to navigate international travel via train, espeically when there's like 3-4 connecting trains
[02:01:26] <cmn32480> Leebert - check w/ zz_janrinok, FatPhil, and any of a couple others who are from Europe
[02:01:45] * cmn32480 thinks boru might be as well
[02:02:00] <cmn32480> and Deucalion
[02:02:09] <cmn32480> DON"T take advice from TheMightyBuzzard
[02:03:51] -!- charon has quit [Quit: Web client closed]
[02:05:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> always pack heat on train rides. they love that type of thing over in europe
[02:06:28] <cmn32480> point: proven!
[02:06:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Syrians in Aleppo Asked to Leave by Text Message - http://sylnt.us - from-social-media-to-social-propoganda
[02:09:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i may need to read tmiahm again
[02:09:25] <cmn32480> is the whole ting gibberish or just the title?
[02:09:40] <cmn32480> "That Man is a Hot Mess"
[02:09:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> the moon is a harsh mistress, you git
[02:10:16] <cmn32480> \"The Magic in a Hairy Masseusse"
[02:10:46] <Leebert> I think they're probably asleep, now that I think about it.
[02:10:53] <cmn32480> yes they are
[02:10:58] <cmn32480> 4-5 hours delta
[02:11:41] <Leebert> Life is much easier with Amtrak. You only ask yourself two questions: Does the train actually go there, and how absurdly long will it take to get there?
[02:13:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i usually just ask myself "who the hell rides trains anymore?" then drive.
[02:18:04] <Leebert> I like trains. But I admit that I don't really take them often in the US outside of the Northeast
[02:18:21] <Leebert> Sometimes I will when going to Florida.
[02:18:24] <Leebert> Because fuck the TSA
[02:20:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. i only fly when driving isn't an option
[02:24:17] <Leebert> Even driving can be an exercise in "fuck you, The Man."
[02:24:33] <Leebert> I've had a few run ins at immigration checkpoints
[02:25:02] <Leebert> "Are you a US citizen?" "AM I BEING DETAINED?!??! I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA!!!"
[02:27:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> immigration checkpoints can suck a dick unless they're at the border
[02:27:47] <Leebert> Yup. They generally wave me through, or don't argue much because I'm a pissed-off looking white dude with short hair.
[02:28:29] <Leebert> And it becomes a ridiculous pissing match.
[02:29:02] <cmn32480> leebert - you live in a sanctuary state... no such thing as an immigration check here
[02:29:03] <Leebert> "I can't let you leave until I'm satisfied that you're an American citizen." "Do you have articulable reason to believe otherwise?"
[02:29:20] <Leebert> cmn32480: I drive around the US a lot.
[02:29:22] <cmn32480> my passport isn't good enough?
[02:29:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> passport? that's for fruity hippy types who feel the need to leave
[02:30:01] <cmn32480> not my fault... work sends me places that require it
[02:30:22] * cmn32480 starts editing on prod instead of helping on dev
[02:32:19] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: I kind of enjoy visiting other countries.
[02:32:36] <cmn32480> Leebert.. I kind of enjoy coming home again too
[02:32:38] <Leebert> But I'm usually ready to go home after only a couple of days. And I'm always happy to be back.
[02:32:48] <cmn32480> AMEN!
[02:32:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i still got like 20 states i ain't been to. and i can always to to cali if i wanna get hated on for where i'm from.
[02:33:00] <Leebert> Then again, I feel the same way when I go to California. :)
[02:33:10] <Leebert> WILL YOU TWO GET OUT OF MY HEAD
[02:33:41] <cmn32480> we like horror movies
[02:33:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> and porn
[02:33:49] <cmn32480> and this is the scariest one I have seen in a long imte
[02:33:55] <Leebert> I have 5 states not checkboxed. One state is semi-checked: North Dakota, which I've traversed on a train, but I never got off the train.
[02:34:07] <cmn32480> doesn't count
[02:34:14] <cmn32480> kinda like never leaving the airport
[02:34:15] <Leebert> Still missing HI, AK, VT, and MI
[02:34:34] * cmn32480 looks for a list of states
[02:34:46] <Leebert> gah I hate planning travel
[02:34:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> draw a line straight up from the bottom of texas. i've been right of everywhere it touches. except maine.
[02:35:40] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: You'll at least give me some leeway; I've ordered an american flag velcro patch for my backpack for my trip.
[02:35:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> far as i'm concerned though, anything left of texas is too hippie to want to go there anyway.
[02:36:20] <Leebert> If I'm going to take a train through several European countries, I need to have at least a little bit of 'murica goign on.
[02:36:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn straight
[02:36:48] <Leebert> They won't let me bring my guns or bald eagles. :(
[02:36:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're askeert
[02:37:20] <Leebert> Speaking of guns, I meant to see how ammo prices responded to the election.
[02:38:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> what you need is a boom box and some kid rock to blast from it
[02:38:33] <Leebert> I don't really like Kid Rock... but if it's for my country, then I *guess* I could make the ultimate sacrifice.
[02:39:00] <cmn32480> or Skynard
[02:39:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> .22 shells should be dropping quite a lot soon. all the federal agencies won't be buying it up with their surplus cash under trump.
[02:39:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, bocephus is also acceptable
[02:40:55] <cmn32480> ~weather indy
[02:40:56] <exec> 10Indianapolis, IN, USA - currently 50°F / 10°C, clear with periodic clouds, wind W at 6 mph, humidity 72% - Tuesday partly cloudy (38°F:64°F / 3°C:18°C), Wednesday sunny (43°F:64°F / 6°C:18°C), Thursday sunny (53°F:71°F / 12°C:22°C), Friday scattered showers (39°F:71°F / 4°C:22°C)
[02:40:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> it'll be nice to be able to go in and buy a bucket of shells for $10-15 again and shoot all afternoon.
[02:41:42] <cmn32480> I'm missing 15 states
[02:42:31] <cmn32480> 14
[02:43:08] <cmn32480> mostly midwest, plus Arkansas and Mississippi
[02:43:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah sweet
[02:44:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> can get .22 shells for bout $0.12/ea again
[02:44:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> still low supply but the price is back normalish
[02:46:36] <Leebert> Nice
[02:47:22] * cmn32480 wishes he shot enough to need to know ammo prices
[02:47:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. i'm thinking the plan was take all the cheap ammo off the market so you couldn't afford to let kids casually shoot all they felt like.
[02:47:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> three or four terms like that and we woulda had a generation with almost no shooters.
[02:48:10] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: I've actually gotten a somewhat favorable response from some of my panicking liberal friends when I point out that their fear of a dictator Trump (I cannot make this stuff up, one literally used the word "dictator") and I pointed out that it's the kind of situation the second amendment was intended to solve...
[02:48:22] <Leebert> ugh bad sentence
[02:48:25] <Leebert> but you get my point
[02:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[02:49:06] <cmn32480> I konw where you live. I'm not surprised
[02:49:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean it's not like there was one valid reason for the feds to be buying up .22 ammo. anything they're gonna shoot they'd better be using at least .223 ammo. i doubt they even have more than a hundred .22 firearms between every agency.
[02:50:12] <Leebert> Oh man, one of my friends who lives in Federal Hill is literally afraid he's going to round up Jews... And do what, I'm not sure.
[02:50:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> force them to make a GOOD new star trek series?
[02:50:43] <Leebert> lol
[02:50:47] <Leebert> (literally, lol)
[02:50:48] <chromas> Were they really buying it up or was it all just people stocking up, a-scurd of obama takin' their guns?
[02:51:10] <Leebert> Perhaps Mr. Trump will give us an awesome government surplus auction?
[02:51:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, both. people were buying more because the feds were spending all their surplus funds on ammo by executive order.
[02:51:36] <cmn32480> my .22 doesn't shoot cheap...
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[02:51:55] <Leebert> But seriously, I'm not a Trump fan but geez, some people need to get a grip on reality.
[02:51:56] <cmn32480> ~gday julian
[02:51:58] * exec sneakily coalesces a spankbank of testicular torsion with julian
[02:52:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar.
[02:52:18] <julian> hello
[02:52:27] * TheMightyBuzzard waves at the new ed minion
[02:52:34] <cmn32480> my .22 only shoots CCI Green Tag
[02:52:40] <Leebert> cmn32480: I've been using the Purple Line as an example of how it is essentially impossible for DJT to build a wall along the border in a 4-year timeline.
[02:52:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads man
[02:53:16] <cmn32480> the purple line is a great example of government superb inefficiency
[02:53:26] <julian> He'll just get the chinese to build it like all the rest of his products. Actually they're pretty good with walls
[02:53:44] <chromas> they did a pretty good job with the railroads
[02:53:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ain't impossible. you'd think the FDR fans would like it even. bloody stupid public work that costs an arm and a leg to build but doesn't do much of anything.
[02:53:47] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - Ruger Competition .22
[02:53:53] <cmn32480> accurate aaf
[02:54:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i'll stick with me lil squirrel guns that shoot .22 lr
[02:54:17] <cmn32480> Chinese did a really good job on that big damn too
[02:54:27] <Leebert> cmn32480: I'd like to see it built. But apropos of the wall, if a bunch of grumpy old people in Chevy Chase have managed to hold up the whole thing in the courts for so many years, imagine what a well-resourced opposition could do in federal courts for a 1,200 mile wall?
[02:54:57] <cmn32480> financing is already approved some years ago for the wall
[02:55:01] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: Oh, I think it's technically possible. Even maybe feasible in 4 years.
[02:55:27] <cmn32480> problem is getting Mexico to reimburse us
[02:55:29] <Leebert> But there's going to be a fudgeton of eminent domain, environmental reviews, blah blah blah that can keep the whole thing tied up in federal courts for years.
[02:55:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> just gotta fast-track one case of eminent domain through the courts and the rest have to be dropped.
[02:55:36] <chromas> We don't even need a wall. Just build turrets every few hundred feet stationed with snipers
[02:55:39] <julian> My realistic prediction is that they'll renovate a section of wall near San Diego, have a fancy ground-breaking ceremony where he gets to wear a hard hate, and then we never talk about it again
[02:56:04] <Leebert> julian: Right. Ground breaking ceremony and some sections was my prediction.
[02:56:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i'd do land mines and concertina wire if i really wanted it secure
[02:56:36] <Leebert> Plus a decision to build a "virtual" wall with drones and cameras and laser fencing and other fun sounding stuff...
[02:56:49] <Leebert> which, basically, we're already doing.
[02:56:51] <chromas> we don't just want secure. it needs to be fun, too
[02:57:12] <Leebert> chromas: So every third landmine is actually just a whoopie cushion?
[02:57:27] <julian> If you *really* wanted to stop illegal immigration (and destroy the economy while you're at it) just pass a draconian employee ID law and fine businesses for violating it
[02:57:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, that's some quality thinking there, Leebert
[02:57:31] <chromas> YEs
[02:58:05] <Leebert> Maybe make the actual landmines make a "whammy" sound from Press Your Luck before it explodes
[02:58:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> julian, the whole swarm o illegals needs to stop. if that means we gotta start streamlining legal immigration, so be it.
[02:58:44] <chromas> It's also a good family fun time activity. Take a vacation down to the southern border and play whack-a-bean for free! Fun for the whole family
[02:59:53] <julian> I don't think it's as big a problem as anyone thinks. Any action against illegal immigration will cost us more than we save
[03:00:13] <julian> Most sober estimates say illegal immigration is a net gain for the economy
[03:00:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> which i'm okay with. currently illegal immigrants are being paid well under minimum wage. exploited if you will.
[03:00:40] <Leebert> julian: Did you listen to the This American Life episode a few weeks ago where they talked about it? Apparently it's been flat since about 2009 (as many leave as arrive)
[03:00:47] <chromas> We can fill all those jobs with our kids. Put 'em to work so they don't grow up with participation trophies
[03:01:08] <julian> Leebert: I've not hear that, but that agrees with other sources I've looked at recently.
[03:01:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> laws need to apply equally to everybody or we're not a nation of law but of tyranny.
[03:01:25] <Leebert> Totally with you TheMightyBuzzard
[03:01:33] <julian> If that's your definition of a nation, then no nation has ever or will ever exist
[03:01:38] <Leebert> I'm OK with immigration, I am not OK with illegal immigration.
[03:01:48] <chromas> http://www.theonion.com
[03:01:49] <exec> └─ 13Illegal Immigrants Returning To Mexico For American Jobs - The Onion - America's Finest News Source
[03:02:02] <Leebert> And I'm completely annoyed by the "undocumented immigrants" terminology. This isn't 1984.
[03:02:05] <chromas> "Why don't you go back to where you went to?"
[03:02:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> julian, right now we're not even making an attempt.
[03:02:55] <Leebert> I would't say no attempt, we deport a lot of people.
[03:03:12] <julian> You make too much of an "attempt" and you end up with psychotic "blood and soil" bullshit and millions of dead under-humans
[03:03:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> feds don't obey the law, politicians don't obey the law, illegals coming across the border don't obey the law, and employers paying them peanuts don't obey the law. and nobody does anything about it.
[03:03:25] <Leebert> But there's a whole lot of nudge nudge wink wink it's all good going on (sanctuary cities, etc.)
[03:03:58] <julian> I live in one of those cities, we're doing fine thanks ;)
[03:04:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, you can enforce a law without having to shoot people.
[03:04:37] <Leebert> I found it interesting that even Trump backpedaled a bit on mass deportations.
[03:05:15] <Leebert> He basically said, IIRC, "let's fix the border first, then figure out what to do with the people who are already here when we know that no one else can enter illegally"
[03:05:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, thas not feasible with the amount of law enforcement officers we have.
[03:05:34] <julian> Because talk is cheap, forcibly removing millions of people including women and minor children is costly--fiscally and morally
[03:05:37] <Leebert> I guess someone finally told him who builds his hotels. :)
[03:05:49] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[03:05:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> nor morally. they have no moral right to be here.
[03:05:53] <Bytram> #fite Mayonaise
[03:05:53] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
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[03:06:04] <MrPlow> #fite Mayonaise falls broken at Bytram's feet.
[03:06:06] Bytram is now known as Bytram|hiding
[03:06:06] <Leebert> It's definitely an intractable problem.
[03:06:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> and we have no moral obligation to allow them to be.
[03:06:27] Bytram|hiding is now known as Bytram
[03:06:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> but it is a bit of a sticky wicket
[03:06:38] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: It's fair that it's somewhat morally objectionable to deport innocent illegal kids who essentially grew up here and came here through no fault of their own.
[03:07:09] <chromas> anchor families
[03:07:24] <Leebert> I think that's a significant minority of illegals, but it IS a difficult problem.
[03:07:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> no it's not. there's nothing immoral about enforcing a law their parents knew they were breaking.
[03:07:42] <julian> The sins of the father...
[03:07:51] <Bytram> or mother
[03:08:13] <Bytram> ...trying to get away from the sins of the father
[03:08:18] <chromas> fasttrack them to legal status
[03:08:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> the mistakes of everyone's fathers land on their children. there's no moral reason to spare these particular ones that fate.
[03:08:37] <Leebert> I get where you're going; law and order and all that stuff. But personally, I have some sympathy there and I can understand not ripping some kid away from their life.
[03:08:42] <julian> Ningun ser humano es illegal, as my May Day parade sign said a few years ago
[03:09:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> i have sympathy as well, i'm just not going to buy the morality argument because it is dead wrong.
[03:09:17] <julian> Although I was dating a Mexican communist at the time. Maybe I'm still biased
[03:09:27] <Leebert> It's a very easy thing to say, I think, when it's an anonymous theoretical kid.
[03:09:52] <julian> TheMightyBuzzard: I bet you have a framed picture of Kant in your home :p
[03:10:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> now if you want to make the "fuckers coming over with a strong desire to work are just the type of people we want as americans", that i can get behind.
[03:10:59] * TheMightyBuzzard looks at his picture of the stooges
[03:11:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> which one is Kant again?
[03:11:24] <chromas> How about an exchange program? We'll auto-accept a hard-working immigrant for each gender studies major we can deport
[03:11:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas++ # Brilliant!
[03:11:37] <Bender> karma - chromas: 182
[03:14:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't really buy ANY of the left's "moral" arguments anymore though. it's too easy to explain why each and every one of them are absurd and they're just trying to make you feel like you're a bad person if you disagree with them anyway.
[03:15:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[03:15:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[03:15:28] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 209
[03:16:14] <Leebert> chromas: brilliant
[03:16:59] <julian> Kant was for duty and rules-based ethics, "Do what is right though the world may perish"
[03:17:09] <julian> Deontology
[03:17:27] <julian> Also wasn't a fan of the Jews
[03:18:40] <chromas> Sounds like an internet mascot
[03:20:55] <cmn32480> holy hannah
[03:20:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> julian, without laws that we all abide by, we're not citizens but subjects. no american should ever stand for that.
[03:21:00] <cmn32480> I'm not reading tha bacscroll
[03:21:44] <julian> It might be aspirational, but that's never achievable in practice. You probably don't even apply informal rules equally in your own life when no one else is stopping you
[03:21:48] <SirFinkus> lol went out to dinner today
[03:21:56] <SirFinkus> might be entertaining to any europeans
[03:22:05] <Bytram> Henry David Thoreau - On Civil Disobedience... just because something is [il]legal, doesn't necessarily make it right/wrong.
[03:22:08] <SirFinkus> stella was the most expensive beer on the menu
[03:22:19] <SirFinkus> at a whopping $6.50 for a pint
[03:23:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> julian, i do. i simply break the ones i disagree with. i'm a bit of an anarchist like that. a certain amount of laws are necessary though and they should be enforced equally.
[03:23:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> and no but perfection is the enemy of good as we say in coding circles
[03:24:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> just because you can't achieve perfection is not a reason to not make the attempt.
[03:24:55] <cmn32480> Perfection is the enemy of "good enough"
[03:25:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, hey, side topic: did you get registered on dev.soylentnews.org yet?
[03:25:17] * Leebert decided a few minutes ago to forego arguing with TheMightyBuzzard and to stand on a rickety office chair to replace a light bulb instead. I think I made a good choice.
[03:25:19] * cmn32480 hold on through that hard left turn....
[03:25:34] * TheMightyBuzzard nods at Leebert
[03:25:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> always better to not argue with me when i'm right. unless you're just bored.
[03:25:58] <julian> TheMightyBuzzard: now you've crossed into error theory ethics without even realzing you've completely changed schools of though! :D
[03:26:08] <julian> *thought
[03:26:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'm just a complex guy
[03:26:25] <Leebert> And humble. :)
[03:26:37] <julian> Incoherence is a type of complexity I suppose ;)
[03:26:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> what, like the bundle? those games suck.
[03:26:47] <Leebert> Dammit Germany, why can't you just have a friggin' Motel 6?
[03:27:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> julian, nuance, yo. if you want my entire life philosophy you're in for one hell of a treatise.
[03:29:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> julian: did you get registered on dev.soylentnews.org yet so i can make you an editor on there?
[03:29:08] <julian> I did
[03:29:25] <cmn32480> julian - did you register with nickserv here so nobody can impersonate you?
[03:29:46] <cmn32480> do this: /msg NickServ REGISTER <password> <email-address>
[03:29:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool, you have edity powers on dev now
[03:30:08] <cmn32480> God help us all
[03:30:16] <Leebert> y'all are making me feel guilty for not answering the plea for help
[03:30:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> someone was plea-ing?
[03:30:41] <Leebert> It was a story, yes?
[03:30:46] <cmn32480> yes
[03:30:47] <Leebert> At least, I recall reading it.
[03:30:49] * TheMightyBuzzard has no idea
[03:30:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, that story
[03:31:01] <cmn32480> Leebert - 10 people hav so far spoken up
[03:31:11] <Leebert> Ah good.
[03:31:18] <cmn32480> don't feel guilty
[03:31:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we got editors coming out our butts. or will come next week anyway.
[03:31:25] <Leebert> I would volunteer, but I am already dropping way too many balls in life.
[03:31:35] <cmn32480> but I will say, the response has been overwhelmingly good
[03:31:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, that happens as you get older
[03:31:39] <Leebert> Awesome
[03:31:44] <cmn32480> also causes kids
[03:31:58] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: Don't remind me. Yesterday, I bought a gallon of milk that expires on my 40th birthday.
[03:32:01] <Leebert> It's that close...
[03:32:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy it. you're officially not remotely an idjit kid anymore that day.
[03:32:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> any idjitness left is all you
[03:33:05] <Leebert> So I get to officially be a grumpy bastard who is inflexibly set in his ways?
[03:33:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> well you get to start practicing up to be one anyway
[03:33:59] <Leebert> Sorry to keep ranting about Europe, but the phone numbers... oh so confusing.
[03:34:16] <Leebert> "contact our reservations on 033 21 1 133382 1 405"
[03:34:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can now officially stand out in your boxers and yell at kids to get off your lawn though
[03:34:23] <cmn32480> becasue they require use of the country code?
[03:34:44] <Leebert> no two phone numbers look the same, even in the same country!
[03:34:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads. those spaces are all fucked up.
[03:34:57] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: I was kinda exaggerating.
[03:35:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, good
[03:35:30] <Leebert> The good news is that I've managed to rule out all of the hotels whose websites are only in german.
[03:36:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're probably the good ones, really
[03:36:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New York City Using 311 and Open Data to Track Bike Lane Blockers - http://sylnt.us - oi,-shift!
[03:36:14] <Leebert> I should probably start calling them and asking if they have washcloths.
[03:36:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> just take a few
[03:36:46] <Leebert> Nah, I travel light.
[03:37:09] <Leebert> And American flag patches aren't weightless, ya know.
[03:37:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff
[03:37:39] <Leebert> I'm getting better at interpreting the pictures of rooms on hotel websites.
[03:38:00] <Leebert> "that's a tiny room, you just did a bunch of trickery to make it look bigger"
[03:38:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> you mean the uber-wide-angle shots?
[03:38:07] <Leebert> yep
[03:38:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, what you see is ALL there is
[03:38:59] <Leebert> One hotel website had a picture of a crossant on a plate on their main page... I figured if that's the best they have to hilight...
[03:39:28] <julian> That crossant has won awards, you philistine!
[03:39:51] <Leebert> Maybe, but I don't eat breakfast. Check and mate, you hotel shill!
[03:40:36] <Leebert> And while I'm ranting, fuck airlines.
[03:41:30] <cmn32480> #fite swiss
[03:41:30] <MrPlow> There's already a fight going on. Wait your turn.
[03:42:18] <cmn32480> ~say #fite swiss
[03:42:20] <exec> #fite swiss
[03:42:20] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[03:42:23] <julian> Alright I think I'm registered now. I always have trouble with that on IRC
[03:42:24] <MrPlow> #fite exec falls broken at swiss's feet.
[03:42:28] <Leebert> British Airways: "Round-trip flight to Heathrow? Sure, the outbound flight will be $550. Oh, you want to go to Glasgow instead? $360, even though you're flying on the SAME DAMN PLANE as our earlier quote, but connecting to a different flight after you arrive at Heathrow. Oh, you want to make that a one-way trip instead? $1,300. Yankee doodle dandy, bitch."
[03:43:21] <julian> Leebert: that's a machine learning alg extracting maximum value from the market. Welcome to late-stage capitalism
[03:43:58] <Leebert> You know, I was thinking the other day: Skynet achieving consciousness was pretty damn scary. But holy shit, when Facebook achieves consciousness, we're all fucked.
[03:44:21] <cmn32480> prolly not
[03:44:39] <cmn32480> it will probably take us back 50 years in computing if that happens
[03:44:47] <cmn32480> have you seen the drivel on Facebook:
[03:44:57] <Leebert> If British Airways' booking system achieves consciousness, I think it'll probably get run over because it stepped into the street into the path of an oncoming semi.
[03:45:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> do they have semis over there?
[03:45:38] <Leebert> cmn32480: That's my point, it will be the most mentally deranged AI imaginable.
[03:45:42] <julian> It'd be a lorry
[03:45:43] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: Sorry, "lorry"
[03:45:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> better
[03:46:10] <Leebert> Now I've seen everything. TheMightyBuzzard corrected me for not using proper British terminology.
[03:46:38] <Leebert> NickServ: Someone impersonating TheMightyBuzzard?
[03:46:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like some of their words. i figure if we beat em in two wars, we can take what we like from the language.
[03:47:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> like bugger. that is a wonderful word. and you can totally say it around blue-haired baptist ladies without getting the stink-eye.
[03:47:46] <Leebert> The American fascination with naming shopping malls with the British spelling "Centre" is bizarre to me.
[03:48:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> my damned firefox install keeping switching dictionaries to en_GB instead of en_US is bizarre to me.
[03:48:40] <Leebert> I actually very much like the British in general.
[03:49:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, far superior to the french.
[03:49:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> even if they don't know a good taco from their own asses
[03:49:56] <Leebert> I actually have en_GB installed on purpose. It's funny because sometimes sucky web developers make bad assumptions, and I get things that use £ instead of $, even though the value is in $
[03:50:32] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: And the McLaren 12C kicked the crap out of any of its Italian contemporaries.
[03:50:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> just so long as you don't try naming variables in perl with £ instead of $
[03:50:49] <Leebert> Nah, my perl is write-only enough.
[03:50:59] <Leebert> Don't need to make it any more obscure.
[03:51:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> them is some fine, fine cars indeed.
[03:51:13] <julian> TheMightyBuzzard: that has been annoying me lately because the Raspberry Pi defaults to GB keyboard
[03:51:18] <Leebert> I drove one for a few hours in Vegas.
[03:51:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on the distro but yeah, i've run into that too.
[03:51:37] <Leebert> Also drove a 458. Preferred the 12C by far.
[03:51:56] <julian> Raspbian seems to default to UK keyboard and UTC for time
[03:52:39] <julian> I mostly use Apple keyboards so that's another layer of aggrevation
[03:52:39] <Leebert> I'm OK with a UTC time default.
[03:52:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. i'm using OSMC lately. can't argue with the pi as being handy for a media center pc if you don't feel like building a real one.
[03:52:56] <Leebert> I do enough security incident response that I wish everything was in UTC.
[03:53:29] <Leebert> Especially when your org spans multiple timezones and nobody thinks to tell you what the timezone of the logs they just sent you are.
[03:53:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, i just keep two clocks on my conky display cause SN runs on UTC
[03:54:06] <Leebert> "So it looks like the bad guy broke in here, then he waited exactly three hours (lunch break?) before pivoting to this machine over here."
[03:54:21] <cmn32480> ~gngiht soylentboobs
[03:54:27] <cmn32480> ~gnight soylentboobs
[03:54:29] * exec sardonically gives birth to a udp packet of horney hornets for soylentboobs
[03:54:51] <cmn32480> soylentboobs++
[03:54:51] <Bender> karma - soylentboobs: 12
[03:55:02] * Leebert agrees with cmn32480, is bedtime. Tired of trying to read German.
[03:55:10] <Leebert> thanks for putting up with my ranting.
[03:55:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas what irc is for
[03:55:27] <Leebert> very true
[03:55:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> and good idear. already an hour past my bedtime.
[03:56:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> julian, thanks for the argue. i was seriously bored.
[03:57:17] <julian> Any time
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[04:12:21] <Bytram|away> ~gnight #Soylent
[04:12:23] * exec half-heartedly refactors a speck of degradation for #Soylent
[04:27:25] <SirFinkus> chromas you bastard
[04:28:07] <chromas> well I'd agree but I'm such a bastard, which thing did I do this time?
[04:28:57] * chromas install linux on SirFinkus' macbook
[04:30:39] * chromas enables phantom power to mics that don't use it
[04:33:43] <SirFinkus> tedx talks
[04:34:08] <SirFinkus> it's like ted, but without all the scientific rigor
[04:34:21] <julian> I'm not an economist, but if there's no interest on an account you should always pay it off as slowly as possible right?
[04:35:03] <julian> I'm trying to think of a micro-econ reason when that's not optimal
[04:36:51] <SirFinkus> I'm assuming debt?
[04:37:04] <SirFinkus> yeah, pay that shit off in order from most interest to least interest
[04:37:28] <SirFinkus> some loans are a little different though
[04:37:55] <SirFinkus> like home loans, they frontload the interest so you don't get much benefit making extra payments
[04:38:32] <julian> But if there's no interest in play, that no longer applies. Pay it off as slow as possible so that inflation reduces the absolute amount you actually pay
[04:39:48] <julian> In concrete terms, I'm going to buy a new phone soon. I can pay for it outright or pay the same amount over 2 years without interest
[04:39:51] <SirFinkus> oh, no interest
[04:39:55] <SirFinkus> missed that part
[04:40:12] <SirFinkus> suppose that'd make sense
[04:40:35] <julian> Why would anyone pay all of it upfront when you can pay a fixed amount with dollars of decreasing value?
[04:40:47] <julian> But then I think, if I figured this out surely the phone company did
[04:40:51] <julian> So why would they do this
[04:41:14] <SirFinkus> fuck
[04:41:25] <SirFinkus> Don Van Vliet paintings start at 12.5k
[04:41:49] <SirFinkus> and no prints
[04:42:30] <julian> I don't know who that is
[04:43:26] <SirFinkus> Captain Beefheart
[04:44:08] <julian> I feel like I know even less now
[04:44:33] <SirFinkus> fairly famous experimental blues guy
[04:44:52] <SirFinkus> buds with zappa
[04:45:04] <SirFinkus> quit the music biz and made some neat paintings
[04:45:10] <SirFinkus> weird person
[04:45:19] <julian> I'm not very knowledgable of music made less than 100 years ago
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[04:47:39] <SirFinkus> not very knowledgeable of music in general
[04:47:47] <SirFinkus> but most original guy I've heard
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[05:17:45] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 7°C/45°F, 9:17 pm GMT-8, Tuesday, 15 November 2016
[05:18:56] <julian> !weather 93401
[05:19:23] <julian> siri, weather god dammit
[05:20:21] <julian> weather
[05:21:07] <julian> How do I weather
[05:23:36] <chromas> ~weather 93401
[05:23:38] <exec> 01San Luis Obispo, CA 93401, USA - currently 57°F / 14°C, cloudy, wind NW at 0 mph, humidity 90% - Tuesday cloudy (54°F:66°F / 12°C:19°C), Wednesday cloudy (46°F:69°F / 8°C:21°C), Thursday sunny (42°F:71°F / 6°C:22°C), Friday mostly sunny (47°F:73°F / 8°C:23°C)
[05:23:55] <chromas> there's also #weather
[05:24:39] <julian> Too late, I had to go outside to check like it was 2006
[05:24:51] <julian> ~weather 93401
[05:24:53] <exec> 10San Luis Obispo, CA 93401, USA - currently 57°F / 14°C, cloudy, wind NW at 0 mph, humidity 90% - Tuesday cloudy (54°F:66°F / 12°C:19°C), Wednesday cloudy (46°F:69°F / 8°C:21°C), Thursday sunny (42°F:71°F / 6°C:22°C), Friday mostly sunny (47°F:73°F / 8°C:23°C)
[05:25:56] <julian> That's a lie, I'm outside to smoke a now legal joint
[05:26:03] <chromas> https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[05:27:50] <julian> Also we are a science and tech oriented site so SI units should come first
[05:28:13] <julian> Sorry, engineers
[05:29:47] <Fnord666> ~gnight all
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[05:31:37] <chromas> You can set the unit
[05:32:33] <chromas> ~weather-prefs metric
[05:32:34] <exec> unknown pref
[05:32:37] <chromas> hah
[05:33:02] <chromas> ~weather-prefs unit metric
[05:33:03] <exec> successfully saved prefs
[05:33:10] <chromas> ~weather 99666
[05:33:11] <exec> 01Nunam Iqua, AK 99666, USA - currently -4°C, cloudy, wind SE at 23 km/h, humidity 75% - Tuesday cloudy (-4°C:-3°C), Wednesday cloudy (-5°C:-3°C), Thursday mostly cloudy (-8°C:-3°C), Friday partly cloudy (-10°C:-8°C)
[05:33:18] <julian> I want my arbitrary preferences imposed on others, this is the human condition
[05:33:28] <chromas> Make a bot
[05:36:58] <julian> I only know Mathematica and some Python
[05:37:22] <julian> and neither well
[05:45:44] <chromas> Mathematica sounds apt for an irc bot
[05:54:08] <SirFinkus> Subsentient you on?
[06:27:55] <xhedit> making an python bot would improve your python
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[09:59:34] <FatPhil> fags--
[09:59:34] <Bender> karma - fags: 0
[10:15:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> smoking--
[10:15:58] <Bender> karma - smoking: -16
[10:44:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:44:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3026
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[10:54:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Aphrodite
[10:54:39] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[10:54:42] <MrPlow> #fite Aphrodite falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[10:56:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fitectl status
[10:56:41] <MrPlow> #fite TheMightyBuzzard level: 96, hp: 55, weapon: 'Special Purpose', armor: 'dog named Shithead'
[10:56:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Bytram|away
[10:56:45] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[10:56:53] <MrPlow> #fite Bytram|away falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[10:57:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Mayonaise
[10:57:11] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[10:57:29] <MrPlow> #fite Mayonaise falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[10:57:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Bender
[10:57:32] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[10:57:43] <MrPlow> #fite Bender falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[10:59:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite MrPlow
[10:59:09] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[10:59:17] <MrPlow> #fite MrPlow falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[10:59:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite SirFinkus
[10:59:33] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[10:59:35] <MrPlow> #fite TheMightyBuzzard falls broken at SirFinkus's feet.
[11:11:24] <FatPhil> #fite Bytram|away
[11:11:24] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:11:24] <MrPlow> #fite Bytram|away's corpse is currently rotting on the ground. Try fighting someone who's alive.
[11:12:00] <FatPhil> #fite boru
[11:12:00] <MrPlow> #fite I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that.
[11:12:12] <FatPhil> #fite Bender
[11:12:12] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:12:12] <MrPlow> #fite Bender's corpse is currently rotting on the ground. Try fighting someone who's alive.
[11:12:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i done kilt all the bots i think
[11:13:42] <FatPhil> I was just tab-completing from the letter 'b', there's no method to my madness
[11:13:49] <FatPhil> let's try another letter
[11:14:11] <FatPhil> #fite CoolHand
[11:14:11] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:14:25] <MrPlow> #fite CoolHand falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[11:14:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[11:14:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i may do exploding dice today
[11:15:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'where whenever you roll 8 on an 8-sided you roll again and keep adding
[11:15:44] <FatPhil> #fitectl choice
[11:15:52] <FatPhil> #fite choice
[11:15:52] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:16:09] <MrPlow> #fite choice falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[11:16:52] <FatPhil> #fite cosurgi
[11:16:52] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:17:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Samsung Buys Connected Car Firm Harman for $8bn in Cash - http://sylnt.us - take-note-and-wash-up
[11:17:06] <MrPlow> #fite FatPhil falls broken at cosurgi's feet.
[11:18:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> poor cosurgi, you got blood all over his boots
[11:19:02] <FatPhil> I'm gutted
[11:19:05] <FatPhil> literally
[11:19:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'okay, fairy be around in a few minutes
[11:19:47] * TheMightyBuzzard is adding bells n whistles today
[11:20:23] <chromas> +2 wolf whistle
[11:20:33] <xhedit> #fite TheMightyBuzzard
[11:20:33] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:20:33] <MrPlow> #fite TheMightyBuzzard's corpse is currently rotting on the ground. Try fighting someone who's alive.
[11:20:36] <xhedit> :(
[11:20:39] <xhedit> #fite cmn32480
[11:20:39] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[11:21:46] <MrPlow> #fite cmn32480 falls broken at xhedit's feet.
[11:23:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrmf, surprise is going to take some thinking
[11:29:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, surprise is gonna get you a free attack. thas all.
[11:30:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> 50% chance of it happening if you initiate the fite
[11:32:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn but cmn32480 got some good rolls that time
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[11:39:37] <chromas> is there a % chance to make a loud noise out myself, causing the atackee to gain the upper hand?
[11:40:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah
[11:40:57] <chromas> "chromas steps on a stick, triggering MrPlow to spin around and whack chromas with his footlong dong. chromas falls over"
[11:42:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> m'kay, exploding dice implemented
[11:45:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[11:45:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[11:45:26] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 210
[11:57:24] <chromas> http://boingboing.net
[11:57:26] <exec> └─ 13Custom orthodontic retainer to give better blowjobs / Boing Boing
[12:04:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://boingboing.net
[12:04:10] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[12:04:11] <exec> └─ 13Custom orthodontic retainer to give better blowjobs / Boing Boing
[12:04:35] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[12:04:37] * TheMightyBuzzard enjoys throwing stuff like that in there for the eds
[12:06:55] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders giving out enchanted weapons on good fairy events
[12:08:43] <chromas> https://hiddenlolcdn.com
[12:08:55] <chromas> thought I pasted that before but search says no
[12:15:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh yeah, i was gonna fix the auto-join nonsense. think i'll do that before i bounce him
[12:24:31] <FatPhil> holy jesus, my g/f's playing some god-awful music and it's doing my nut in
[12:25:13] <FatPhil> I'm wondering whether I should just rm -rf the directory of mp3s once she's finished playing the album, and deny all knowledge of the dreadful accident later.
[12:25:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> #pissoff
[12:25:46] <MrPlow> Off I shall piss...
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[12:26:25] <FatPhil> I think the album is called "Hour-long Rape in a Busy Turkish Bazaar", or at least that's what it should be called given what it sounds like.
[12:27:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite cmn32480
[12:27:17] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[12:28:32] <MrPlow> #fite TheMightyBuzzard falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
[12:28:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, looks like everything's working quite nicely
[12:29:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept the part where my bot hates giving me good random numbers
[12:31:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[12:31:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[12:31:11] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 211
[12:56:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mazda Recalls 70,000 RX-8 Sports Cars in the U.S. - http://sylnt.us - probably-made-by-samsung
[12:57:03] <cmn32480> THAT is an awesome thing to be greeted by when signing into IRC
[12:58:20] <xhedit> #fite cmn32480
[12:58:20] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[12:58:36] <MrPlow> #fite cmn32480 falls broken at xhedit's feet.
[12:58:36] <cmn32480> #fitectl status
[12:58:36] <MrPlow> #fite cmn32480 level: 92, hp: 0, weapon: 'the CoC of Conformity', armor: 'exploding Note 7'
[12:58:45] <xhedit> #fitectl status
[12:58:45] <MrPlow> #fite xhedit level: 103, hp: 101, weapon: 'r2pipe', armor: '>/dev/null'
[12:58:54] <cmn32480> is ok xhedit... I beat the Buzzard
[12:59:14] <xhedit> thank goodness
[12:59:20] <xhedit> i tried earlier
[12:59:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> new features in today
[12:59:33] <xhedit> but some foul cretin had already killed the fellow
[12:59:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> surprise attacks, exploding dice, and fumbles
[13:00:24] <cmn32480> holy hannah... 2 more volunteers
[13:00:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> hur hur hur
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[13:12:08] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[13:12:10] <exec> └─ 13How to sound smart in your TEDx Talk | Will Stephen | TEDxNewYork - YouTube
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[13:25:55] <weeds> ~gday janrinok
[13:25:57] * exec $adverb instantiates a satchel of aptitude for janrinok
[13:26:26] <janrinok> ~gday weeds
[13:26:28] * exec presumably postulates a systemd journal of excitement towards weeds
[13:26:42] <janrinok> blech - systemd
[13:28:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~gday weeds
[13:28:35] * exec slowly heaps a diaper full of flappy tama on weeds
[13:28:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~gday janrinok
[13:28:40] * exec carefully hurls an ace archive of rune stones at janrinok
[13:28:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[13:28:47] * exec democratically formulates a sacful of nasty v for TheMightyBuzzard
[13:29:00] <janrinok> ~gday AndyTheAbsurd
[13:29:02] * exec analiciously inserts a handful of stale crackers into AndyTheAbsurd
[13:29:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday AndyTheAbsurd
[13:29:20] * exec homogeneously merges a bucket of poop cola with AndyTheAbsurd
[13:29:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> tie?
[13:29:32] <janrinok> what the hell is 'flappy tama' - that's 2 days I've seen that
[13:29:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> eww and quadruple ewww.
[13:33:50] <cmn32480> tama is one of the bots in #.... that shoudl be all you need to know
[13:34:39] <FatPhil> #fite SirFinkus
[13:34:39] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:34:46] <MrPlow> #fite SirFinkus falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[13:35:06] <FatPhil> #fite swiss
[13:35:06] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:35:11] <MrPlow> #fite swiss falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[13:35:13] <weeds> ~gday AndyTheAbsurd
[13:35:15] * exec inadequately drops a spoon of pecan sandies on AndyTheAbsurd
[13:35:56] <FatPhil> #fite stromlund
[13:35:56] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[13:36:04] <MrPlow> #fite FatPhil falls broken at stromlund's feet.
[13:36:08] <weeds> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[13:36:09] * exec spontaneously coalesces a heap of vba scripts with TheMightyBuzzard
[13:36:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday weeds
[13:36:38] * exec deliciously cropdusts a ¼ cup of flapjacks over weeds
[13:36:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> you win
[13:36:48] <weeds> Nice!
[13:51:40] * FatPhil arbitrarily instantiates a generative grammar on exec
[13:57:09] <xhedit> ~gday all
[13:57:10] * exec unnecessarily flicks a purse of pascal at all
[14:28:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - BLU Phones Secretly Sent Personal Data to China - http://sylnt.us - who-owns-your-phone?
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[14:39:38] <sea> This is so weird
[14:39:47] <sea> I've never seen this before but I have a directory that destroys the disk
[14:40:24] <sea> Every time I've copied it onto a new disk, the disk dies about 3 days later. This has happened to two brand new disks so far.
[14:41:19] <sea> ..and a third one is here writing something at 54KiB/sec, in an entirely separate partition just in my home directory. This disk is on its way out, too!
[14:41:22] <sea> What the heck is going on?
[14:41:45] <sea> 374KiB/sec now
[14:42:05] <sea> Still, that's terrible write performance for a brand new disk. There aren't any other bottlenecks. The disk is just sloooooow
[14:43:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> fsck that beastie for starters
[14:43:55] <sea> :/ It's a brand new partition, just 10GiB large!
[14:44:04] <sea> I only created it last week and never used it
[14:44:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't mean the filesystem on it isn't corrupt
[14:44:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> filesystem sits above the partition level. could be being corrupted by a bad file name or something.
[14:45:15] <sea> There AREN'T any files in this filesystem except the one I'm creating now, and the lost+found
[14:45:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[14:45:31] <janrinok> if you install one of the earlier failures can you do a full disk reformat and recover it?
[14:45:49] <FatPhil> TMB: where was your git repo for #fite
[14:46:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd point ya to it but github is not liking me just now
[14:46:38] <sea> The story is this: I have a disk with lots of free space. I create a 10GiB partition, copy the evil directory in there. Later, I create another 10GiB partition and scp a large binary file into it, across an ethernet cable. Write performance is..294KiB/sec
[14:46:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly something like https://github.com
[14:47:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, no, github is having crashy issues
[14:47:53] <sea> Additional details: I've done this setup before, and the disk got IO errors and died when accessing things in the evil directory. The whole disk went splat. It happened twice. This is the third time around, and now I'm convinced that directory is physically killing the disks somehow
[14:48:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> is your partition created with largefile set?
[14:49:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> filesystem rather
[14:49:27] <sea> If mkfs.ext4 sets it by default then yeah
[14:50:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> dumpe2fs /dev/whatzit
[14:50:43] <sea> Hold on, there's stuff in dmesg of interest
[14:50:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[14:51:08] <sea> dmesg is full of errors
[14:51:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh fun, what flavor
[14:51:16] <sea> This disk is dead too. Damnit
[14:51:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> replace the cable first
[14:52:26] <sea> Hmm..
[14:52:29] <sea> It could be the cable..
[14:52:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i've seen it before. worth checking.
[14:55:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg, github is shitting itself
[14:56:25] <FatPhil> yeah, slow as fudge
[15:00:27] <janrinok> I suspect that there is a DDoS taking place - my connection has been flaky all day.
[15:01:02] <janrinok> DNS servers are not responding as they should here in France
[15:01:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'fine, long as teh pr0n still works
[15:01:52] <janrinok> I've got petabytes of pron backed up for such an eventuality
[15:02:21] * TheMightyBuzzard nods to janrinok
[15:02:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> sage wisdom, that
[15:02:51] <boru> Interesting. Looks like USA is attacking everyone on planet Earth: http://www.digitalattackmap.com
[15:02:53] <exec> └─ 13Digital Attack Map
[15:02:54] <janrinok> I thought it a prudent move
[15:03:20] <boru> Oh, other way around, nevermind.
[15:03:29] <janrinok> oh poo - either way
[15:03:30] <boru> It's hard to tell which way the dots are doing...
[15:04:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh well, as long as someone's having fun
[15:04:51] * TheMightyBuzzard wanders off to putter around the house
[15:06:06] <boru> I prefer bitbucket, personally.
[15:09:32] <janrinok> that site says there is a large attack against Vietnam.
[15:17:53] <FatPhil> TMB: how feasible is a "only one post is permittet per user" flag for a story?
[15:18:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> doable but i don't see the use case
[15:18:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> and you'd run into issues with ACs
[15:20:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> also, we don't have post editing at the moment so once you posted you couldn't correct it.
[15:28:42] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders
[15:29:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think in wanna do editable comments next update
[15:34:54] <cmn32480> didn't that get shitted on by the community the last time we brought it up?
[15:35:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> keep the current comment in `comment_text`, create a `comment_text_versions` table and shift the old versions there as they're edited. only allow say 4 edits for registered users and 1 for ACs cause space could become a consideration.
[15:35:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> we never brought it up i don't think. some of them did and some others said boooo
[15:39:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> know how we have the big ole bold More on some stories? that you can click and it shows the rest of the story? could do the same thing but "Edited Comment" instead of "More" and have it show the unedited version when clicked.
[15:50:18] <cmn32480> that table could get VERY big
[15:50:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> four times as big as comments_text, yeah.
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[16:06:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Demands Electric Cars Make Noise at Low Speed - http://sylnt.us - fake-engine-noises-FTW-Vrrrm-Vrrrm!
[16:08:18] <weeds> TheMightyBuzzard, Would it be possible for the dialog to get really messed up? I could make a post saying you are a grand wizard, you post a reply, "thank you" then I edit my post to say you are a dingbat.
[16:10:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> weeds: that scenario is why we'd want to make edits visible
[16:10:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> Reddit does it, but very poorly, as you can see that the post was edited, but not the history of edits.
[16:13:49] <weeds> AndyTheAbsurd, makes sense and maybe a time stamp?
[16:14:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure, timestamps are easy
[16:14:30] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard: a use case I was thinking of was something like a Dead Pool story - you can submit one entry
[16:16:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> that one could be done without limiting anyone to one post. just only accept their first entry.
[16:16:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> admins can tell if ACs make multiple posts
[16:17:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably in poor taste, even for us though.
[16:18:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> at least for the front page. maybe a journal entry.
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[16:51:46] <FatPhil> #fite Deucalion
[16:51:46] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[16:51:50] <MrPlow> #fite Deucalion falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[16:52:02] <FatPhil> #fite diginet
[16:52:02] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[16:52:30] <MrPlow> #fite FatPhil falls broken at diginet's feet.
[17:23:42] <FatPhil> Rust is an abomination before man and before god.
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[17:36:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Marijuana Use Linked to Broken Heart Syndrome - http://sylnt.us - tell-tale-heart
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[18:26:11] <AzumaHazuki> Okay...finally got some time to get in here. On the subject of volunteer editor: what should I work on right now?
[18:26:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> joining #editorial, where you'll get better direction?
[18:26:56] <AzumaHazuki> LOL, sounds good
[18:27:14] <AzumaHazuki> sorry i couldn't get in yesterday. this two jobs thing is hard on a girl @_@
[18:47:35] <Leebert> boru: I was always more of a fan of ThreatButt (http://threatbutt.com/), in particular, their real-time attack map (http://threatbutt.com/map/)
[18:47:38] <exec> ├─ 13Threatbutt - comprehensive internet hacking protections
[18:47:38] <exec> └─ 13Threatbutt - comprehensive internet hacking protections
[18:51:58] <janrinok> Leebert, yep it looks nicer, but it is taking time to show what is happening and doesn't reflect what the other site shows. They can't both the right can they?
[18:56:27] <Leebert> janrinok: They can't both be right, but Threatbutt uses more words I recognize from CIO magazine, so I suspect that it's more accurate.
[18:57:46] <janrinok> I'll go with that - and it doesn't suck JS unlike the other site
[18:58:27] <Leebert> I'll say this for the Digital Attack Map site, it's made me aware just how heavily DDoSed Kansas is.
[18:59:00] <janrinok> must be all that empty space they are DDoSing
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[18:59:41] <Leebert> Did you ever see that story about the poor folks in the middle of nowhere, Kansas, who suffered all sorts of weirdness from their address being the default for "United States" in various geomapping databases?
[18:59:55] <Leebert> Ah, here it is: https://consumerist.com
[18:59:57] <exec> └─ 13This Farm In Kansas Is The Default Address For All American Internet Users – Consumerist
[19:13:43] <janrinok> lol - nice to be popular
[19:16:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Releases Coffee Table Book.... for $300 - http://sylnt.us - drones-will-still-buy-it
[19:17:41] <chromas> But does the coffee table book unfold into a tiny coffee table?
[19:21:11] <Leebert> I want to know if the pictures will change every few months until it becomes so difficult to turn the pages that you have to buy a new one two years later.
[19:22:10] <DECbot> no, but the ink will slowly evaperate so that the pages will be blank in 18 months.
[19:22:44] <Leebert> I could see that.
[19:22:51] <Leebert> Also, DECbot, do you run VMS?
[19:23:34] <DECbot> nope
[19:24:32] <DECbot> Leebert: different DEC, but i wish i did
[19:27:37] <Leebert> I miss VMS. Probably because I never had to do any actual work with it; I only used it in college.
[19:28:03] <Leebert> But man, was it ever consistent and well documented. An OCD dream.
[19:28:46] <DECbot> By the time I developed an interest in computing, everything was already fimrly x86
[19:35:01] * mechanicjay runs VMS as a hobbyist
[19:36:26] <DECbot> worst yet, my school was java centric so now my little pet projects are either simple bash or c scripts or java monstrosities.
[19:37:29] <mechanicjay> DECbot: I had that problem too. My entire undergrad program was in Java. My pre-schooling language was self-taught Atari BASIC. It took a few years to undo the brain fuckery that Java does - now I live in PHP all day -- for better or worse :)
[19:38:10] <AzumaHazuki> that's like trading cerebral palsy for parkinson's and tourette's
[19:38:46] <AzumaHazuki> i've done just enough with PHP and MySQL never to want to touch either again
[19:38:55] <DECbot> I don't write software for a day job, but it makes some chores easier
[19:39:24] <mechanicjay> AzumaHazuki: for building webapps, php is far far far far better than perl
[19:40:08] <mechanicjay> most other languages have a shit-ton of processing overhead or bizarly specific requirements. mod_php on apache will kinda work everywhere with no hassle.
[19:40:08] <DECbot> example: I was tasked to setup some tablets to show PDFs and vidoes at a trade show, but only had about a week to get it done
[19:40:26] <AzumaHazuki> this is true...but still @_@ ugh, i'm a geologist, i was never educated in this stuff
[19:40:40] <AzumaHazuki> ...not that i've touched a damn rock with honorable intent since graduation
[19:41:06] <DECbot> I used kWS to run a webserver on the tablet and create a bash script to scan a directry for files and then output html for different products and file types
[19:41:10] <mechanicjay> mysql is fine for simple stuff -- if really need to leverage some serious SQL processing, pivot tables come to mind -- mysql is just the wrong tool.
[19:41:39] <mechanicjay> my FOSS db engine of choice these days is postgresql
[19:42:09] <mechanicjay> noSQL stuff can stick it where the sun don't shine.
[19:43:38] <DECbot> I'd like to spend some time learning postgres as one of our appliance products uses it on the backend. I'm considering replacing my mysql server at home for running my vmail and tt-rss with it
[19:44:46] <DECbot> of course trying it out hinges upon me finally making a decision between FreeBSD and Systemd
[19:45:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're going to need to switch to some sort of noSQL here in a couple dozen million more users
[19:45:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> DECbot, http://www.calculate-linux.org gentoo base, binary packages, no systemd
[19:45:53] <DECbot> what's the user count up to these days? and at the current rate of change, what is the ETA for making that change?
[19:45:57] <exec> └─ 13Calculate Linux
[19:46:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~uid
[19:46:02] <exec> The current maximum UID is 6409, owned by prakashravi
[19:47:17] <DECbot> 3204.5 users per year if we're okay with linear calculations and rounding to 2 years
[19:48:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> VERY roughly 10x that many unregistered users.
[19:48:10] <DECbot> So, if you're talking about millions of users (say 2 million), you have about 624 years to make that transition.
[19:48:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good
[19:48:30] <AzumaHazuki> better get that Y2K38 patch in first...
[19:49:03] * TheMightyBuzzard pshaws
[19:49:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll leave that for mechanicjay. he's the proper admin.
[19:50:06] <DECbot> you know what would really suck in this cloud hosted world we're in? you do all the patches for your shit for Y2K38, but your vm provider doesn't pacth their stuff.
[19:50:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think some of the date/time stamped fields in the db may need their type changed though
[19:51:33] <DECbot> say we get the db up to snuff and all of our linux instances... and then linode fails to patch their stuff
[19:52:05] <AzumaHazuki> that would be what we scientific types refer to as "asking for a lawsuit the size of God"
[19:55:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> and fun. i wonder if ntp would cover it.
[19:58:03] <DECbot> I've considered getting a rPi to test the Y2k38 rollover with various OSes
[19:58:42] <AzumaHazuki> mmmm, Pi
[19:59:04] <AzumaHazuki> one of these days, like when the ARM SoC gets to Core 2 Quad levels, I'm going to just mount one of those on back of a monitor
[20:00:37] <DECbot> if my kids ever ask for computers, that is what I will do. Though I think they will end up asking for tablets first.
[20:01:06] <AzumaHazuki> ugh, tablets...i can't explain why i hate those so much. feels like a permanent dumbing-down of computers
[20:01:40] <janrinok> DECbot, I do exactly that for a simply web/email set-up for visiting guests
[20:03:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, you and me both. I'm not upgrading my desktop until someone comes out with an ARM board with 8GB+ of ram. I won't own a pre-rootkitted cpu, thank you very much.
[20:04:05] <AzumaHazuki> how do we know the ARM SoCs aren't going to be full of MEI or TrustZone or whatever?
[20:04:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> well intel and amd are advertising it, so i expect they would as well.
[20:05:58] <AzumaHazuki> none of the smartphone makers advertise that their baseband has its own CPU and OS that's always on
[20:06:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'true
[20:06:43] -!- MDC [MDC!~18145c47@z-33-46-44-61.hsd3.wa.comcast.net] has joined #Soylent
[20:06:47] <MDC> Yo
[20:07:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup, MDC
[20:07:22] <MDC> Seeing my witch doctor in an hour
[20:07:25] <MDC> I
[20:07:49] <MDC> I'm gonna ask him to change my medicine, the antidepressant is working poorly
[20:08:18] <AzumaHazuki> hm...get your GP to do a blood mineral and vitamin workup, and a thyroid hormone screen maybe
[20:08:34] <cmn32480> be sure to say OO EEE OO AH AH TING TANG WALLA WALLA BING BANG
[20:08:34] <MDC> OK
[20:08:36] <AzumaHazuki> i've found after adding vitamin D3 and like 2x the RDA of magnesium (as citrate) i've felt way better
[20:08:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, they never did find an antidepressant that worked for me. adderall, however, kicked the utter fuck out of any depressive symptoms except not wanting to do the dishes, which i just chalk up to being male.
[20:09:07] <MDC> I too am reluctant to wash the dishes
[20:09:16] * cmn32480 joins the dirty dish club
[20:09:21] janrinok is now known as zz_janrinok
[20:09:27] * chromas washes other people's dishes
[20:09:45] <MDC> I don't feel sadness or despair anymore, but I'm bored all the time, yet don't want to do anything to relieve the boredom
[20:10:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> and yeah, D will help no end. you can either get it by pill or by standing out in the sunlight.
[20:10:25] <MDC> Vancouver is rainy all winter long
[20:10:37] <AzumaHazuki> you live in BC? Oh gods I've wanted to go there for so long
[20:10:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ouch, surprised everyone there ain't on meds then.
[20:10:40] <MDC> I've got some multivitamins somewhere
[20:10:49] <mechanicjay> MDC: Yeah, the PNW can be a bit of a downer
[20:10:55] <AzumaHazuki> passport coming by Christmas i hope...just need to somehow get a job offer
[20:10:55] <MDC> Vancouver Washington, but I once lived in BC
[20:11:02] <AzumaHazuki> ahh, okay
[20:11:22] <MDC> Vancouver BC is a much more interesting place
[20:11:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> the other vancouver is supposed to have nicer weather. s'why they film a lot of lower-budget shows there.
[20:11:50] <AzumaHazuki> i don't feel safe here in the US any longer.
[20:11:54] <MDC> really it does
[20:12:03] <AzumaHazuki> i've seen this show before and the last episode was broadcast in german about 80 years ago
[20:12:09] <AzumaHazuki> not sticking around for this on
[20:12:11] <MDC> But isn't america great again?
[20:12:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i'm great and some of the beer's great but the rest of you? eh...
[20:12:48] <AzumaHazuki> it hasn't been great since the early 70s and even then it sucked ass unless you were white and had at least some money
[20:13:11] <MDC> I used to have money. Squandered it all away. :-/
[20:13:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm in the process of squandering mine all away. it's fairly enjoyable as a process.
[20:14:06] <AzumaHazuki> i never did. and putting around 35% of my net income into the anti-human-trafficking stuff doesn't help
[20:14:15] <AzumaHazuki> if i don't a good friend dies
[20:14:22] <MDC> I have the idea that writing my own software product will make me money
[20:14:31] <MDC> but lately I'm not motivated to work on it
[20:15:04] <AzumaHazuki> go to ground, save money, take a second job doing bullshit retail if you can...
[20:15:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> motivated, schmotivated. put the hours in like it was an actual job with start time and quit time.
[20:15:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> regular hours help with the depression too.
[20:16:01] <MDC> they do, but I sleep excessively. Haven't had much luck avoiding that.
[20:16:22] <MDC> doc prescribed welbutrin so I would sleep less, but it's not effective
[20:17:30] <MDC> gotta go soon
[20:17:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> my annoying alarm takes care of that. took me a while to find one i couldn't sleep through but nowadays i'm up five minutes before it goes off anyway.
[20:18:00] <MDC> bye now
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[20:18:05] <AzumaHazuki> o/
[20:18:08] <cmn32480> Be well MDC. Glad to hear you are still kicking along.
[20:18:17] <cmn32480> doh. missed him
[20:18:28] <AzumaHazuki> i'm glad things are improving for him. i know his story
[20:18:34] <DECbot> Every few years I have to replace my alarm clock because I acclimate myself to it
[20:18:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, think i'm going to do up some dishes and eat some coco pebbles for lunch.
[20:18:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, he's a good egg.
[20:19:07] <cmn32480> ^^ yup yup
[20:20:17] <mechanicjay> AzumaHazuki: Seriously, come to Seattle -- this is literally the most accepting place I've ever seen. You shouldn't need to fear for you safety here.
[20:23:32] <DECbot> I recall Portlandia pretty accepting too
[20:23:57] <chromas> Except that one bookstore
[20:24:51] <swiss> unless you voted for trump
[20:24:56] <swiss> then they all will beat your ass
[20:25:18] <DECbot> I don't recall that.. but then again I suffer from white cis male: you know, accepted everywhere you'd want to be
[20:26:25] <DECbot> oh yeah, that...
[20:26:27] <chromas> Stop oppressing us whitey!
[20:26:43] <DECbot> stop being less white then!
[20:27:36] <chromas> colorophobe
[20:27:43] <chromas> oh shit that's racist. sorry
[20:27:52] <chromas> phobeocolor!
[20:30:27] <mechanicjay> swiss: That's true, there is a certain intolerance here for cis-male-whiteness, as long as you're accepting of non cis-male-whiteness however, it seems to be okay.
[20:30:54] <DECbot> I dont have the motivation to continue these racist arguemtns on the internet. It's emacs vs vi all over again
[20:31:47] <chromas> systemd vs emacs
[20:32:24] <mechanicjay> DECbot: fair enough
[20:32:29] <DECbot> are you suggesting systemd on emacs on systemd?
[20:33:15] <boru> Isn't emacsd a service, now? (For faster post-boot emacs loading. naturally)
[20:33:41] <boru> Actually, I think it became an LKM.
[20:34:30] <DECbot> seams reasonable
[20:35:21] <DECbot> i wonder if we can convince the emacs snobs to replace systemd with emacs...
[20:35:48] <boru> How else would one configure dbus in kernelmode without a kernelmode text editor!
[20:36:19] <DECbot> why settle for the systemd swiss army knife when you can have the Swiss army?
[20:36:44] <boru> Did you know that Switzerland has a navy?
[20:37:05] <DECbot> I did not... is it like the Austrian Navy?
[20:38:26] <boru> No, that's just an optical illusion.
[20:39:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> It's not a Navy, it's the Swiss Land Forces lakes flotilla
[20:40:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> Their patrol boats look pretty bad-ass, though: https://en.wikipedia.org
[20:40:11] <exec> └─ 13Swiss Armed Forces - Wikipedia
[20:48:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Global Carbon Growth Stalls as US Coal Continues to Slump - http://sylnt.us - heavy-use-continues-but-increase-leveled-off
[20:48:41] * AzumaHazuki gives Bender a microfiber cloth and a can of Electronic Endust. For keeping his metal ass shiny.
[20:54:26] <FatPhil> #fite mechanicjay
[20:54:26] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[20:54:29] <MrPlow> #fite mechanicjay falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[20:55:08] <FatPhil> #fite mrcoolbp
[20:55:08] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[20:55:15] <MrPlow> #fite mrcoolbp falls broken at FatPhil's feet.
[20:55:26] <cmn32480> #fite FatPhil
[20:55:26] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[20:55:27] <FatPhil> #fite Mayonaise
[20:55:27] <MrPlow> There's already a fight going on. Wait your turn.
[20:55:47] <MrPlow> #fite FatPhil falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
[20:56:12] <cmn32480> the buzzard has been playing agian I see
[20:56:23] <cmn32480> #fite TheMightyBuzzard
[20:56:23] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[20:57:37] <MrPlow> #fite cmn32480 falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[20:57:41] <cmn32480> awwwww
[20:58:13] <chromas> No CoC can contain the buzzard
[21:09:01] <AzumaHazuki> ...wow. that is a juicy straightline right there
[21:11:51] <FatPhil> CoC = Code of Cockups?
[21:12:50] <chromas> yeah it's a weapon in the bot #fite
[21:13:12] <FatPhil> time to test the new sauna stones! (volcanic rock from Mount Shasta, 20 times the price of ordinary stones, we thought we'd treat outselves.)
[21:13:31] <chromas> What do they do?
[21:14:31] * chromas consults the interweb
[21:20:54] <cmn32480> that interweb is jsut a fad.. it'll be gone in a couple weeks
[21:21:22] <cmn32480> chromas - it is the CoC of Conformity
[21:23:32] * cmn32480 calibrates the label printer to run after he leaves
[21:26:48] <FatPhil> chromas: they instantaniously boil the water that you throw on them. And as these have tons of holes, there's lots of surface area.
[21:28:35] <cmn32480> Are tehy Diet Shasta Orange?
[21:33:26] <FatPhil> nope, and they're not as dark as this was: http://www.ratebeer.com
[21:33:33] <exec> └─ 13Mt. Shasta Shastafarian Porter, Showing FatPhil's review
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[21:55:26] <cmn32480> starting a software upgrade at 15 mimnutes to 5 was pretty damned stupid
[21:55:40] <cmn32480> #smake cmn32480
[21:55:40] * MrPlow smakes cmn32480 upside the head with vibrating rooster sammich
[22:02:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> i agree
[22:02:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake cmn32480
[22:02:18] * MrPlow smakes cmn32480 upside the head with a UNIX manual
[22:03:13] * cmn32480 falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet
[22:04:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> silly cmn32480, you're going to make boru think i missed something
[22:04:28] <cmn32480> BONUS!
[22:04:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Loggie
[22:04:39] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[22:04:40] <boru> TMB; ***ALERT: #FITE LOG MESSAGE MISSED
[22:04:46] <MrPlow> #fite Loggie falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[22:04:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake cmn32480
[22:04:52] * MrPlow smakes cmn32480 upside the head with a sticker
[22:05:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite exec
[22:05:45] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[22:05:55] <MrPlow> #fite exec falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[22:07:19] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[22:07:19] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[22:07:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> tired. need moar caffeine or something.
[22:11:12] * cmn32480 cuts out for the night
[22:11:16] <cmn32480> back on after dinner at the house
[22:11:21] <cmn32480> later gator
[22:12:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, apparently microsoft is now a platinum member of the linux foundation
[22:13:18] <boru> Aye, read that earlier. Called it over a decade ago.
[22:15:43] <AzumaHazuki> boy there's nothing suspicious about that shit at all. nope
[22:15:54] <AzumaHazuki> ignore the whiskers and big red bushy tail on that very very large hen
[22:17:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Zap to the Head Leads to Fat Loss - http://sylnt.us - where-does-all-that-fat-GO?
[22:17:41] * TheMightyBuzzard looks to see if we have that queued up yet
[22:18:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, 07:28 UTC
[22:23:35] <FatPhil> Linux foundation became mostly irrelevant from an OSS perspective years ago.
[22:23:55] <FatPhil> I've worked for several big sponsors, and know exactly why they sponsor it.
[22:25:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> what exactly does it do besides sit there with linux in its name? it's not the kernel, it's not a distro...
[22:26:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell it's not even gnu
[22:27:48] * TheMightyBuzzard crosses his fingers
[22:27:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://www.phoronix.com
[22:27:53] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[22:27:54] <exec> └─ 13Btrfs RAID5/RAID6 Support Finally Get Fixed - Phoronix
[22:27:57] * TheMightyBuzzard sighs
[22:28:59] * TheMightyBuzzard tries to decide if he can be arsed to make a proper sub
[22:48:36] <FatPhil> it sponsors conferences where the most high-profile speakers work for the biggest sponsors.
[22:49:16] <FatPhil> it hands out the right to use its logo to those who pay it money.
[22:49:24] <chromas> I thought I read they finally tossed out the raid 5/6 code 'cause it was so terrible
[22:49:44] <FatPhil> is it saying "really really to do with software" and "really really to do with open source" to you too?
[22:50:13] <FatPhil> ditto. corrupting files is certainly not the most desireable feature in a filesystem.
[22:51:02] <AzumaHazuki> you mean you DON'T like your production boxes getting clusterfsck'd on a regular basis?
[22:51:35] <chromas> They still need to make it so different subvolumes can be mounted with different raid settings
[22:52:37] <chromas> that way I can set the porn directory to raid1 but not waste space on crap like family photos
[22:52:43] * AzumaHazuki mount -o force /dev/hazuki/face /mnt/workdesk
[22:53:31] <AzumaHazuki> aaaand with that i am off to job #2. au revoir
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[23:07:34] <DECbot> so... should it be from the "these-are-the-bits-you're-looking-for" department?
[23:08:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, i'm not gonna bother subbing it. btrfs is never going to amount to anything at this rate.
[23:09:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> been hearing how it was gonna be awesome in just a year or so for like ten years
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[23:13:25] <DECbot> ah, so the btrfs-recommends-zfs department
[23:17:38] <DECbot> I admint I never played with btrfs
[23:18:05] <DECbot> nor have I played with ext4...
[23:18:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, odd
[23:18:20] <DECbot> I went from ext3/reiser3 to zfs
[23:18:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[23:18:59] <DECbot> That sort of happened by staying on 12.04 forever
[23:19:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ext4 is okay. i've no real complaints if you're not looking for a fancy, server-class filesystem.
[23:20:06] <DECbot> I don't do anything fancy. Samba for files at home, mysql, postfix, apache on my servers
[23:20:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[23:20:23] <DECbot> desktop is even more bland
[23:20:33] <FatPhil> zfs keeps waking up virtual machines that should be idling.
[23:21:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i have one 1TB drive for / and one for /home on the linux side. another 1TB for winders n games.
[23:21:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> ext4 works fine for that setup. zfs would gain me nothing.
[23:21:34] <DECbot> I'm looking to upgrade my home file server. Right now the new box is running FreeBSD 10.3 on zfs, I like it but I'm eyeing FreeNAS too
[23:22:22] <DECbot> it has 3x 1TB drives and a 2TB drive, all of it on zfs
[23:22:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> how do you upgrade a home fileserver except by adding drives?
[23:22:37] <DECbot> it should make backups easier with the zfs snapshots
[23:24:03] <DECbot> 32bit x86 Via processor and 1G max ram to a modern x86_64 AMD processor with 16gb ram installed and more sata ports
[23:24:25] <DECbot> the motherboard/processor was 10yrs old
[23:24:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but that's not going to gain you anything on a fileserver really.
[23:24:49] <DECbot> the new box also is a minecraft server
[23:24:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh, there ya go. mine too.
[23:25:29] <DECbot> I tried runing minecraft on the old one, and the minecraft server daemon kept crashing
[23:25:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn thing eats ram something fierce if you want good view/load distances.
[23:26:21] <DECbot> yep, no problems with the new box... except setting GELI to encrypt the zfs pool
[23:26:43] <DECbot> now I have to actually be at the machine to unlock it during boot
[23:27:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> same here. LUKS for /home
[23:27:21] <DECbot> my fault for encrypting /boot and / like a dumbass
[23:27:30] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[23:27:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> just keep your pr0n in ~
[23:28:03] <DECbot> anyway, work day is over... I have to pry my wrists from the keyboard now.
[23:28:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[23:28:12] <DECbot> later
[23:28:28] * TheMightyBuzzard reboots for a kernel upgrade
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[23:34:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, that's taken care of. time for dinner.
[23:43:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> hotwings, bitches! with extra hot! in about 30m anyway.
[23:49:04] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: What distro/kernel you on now?
[23:49:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> arch 4.8.8
[23:49:31] <Subsentient> Fedora 4.8.6
[23:49:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> pondering a move to compute 4.8.7
[23:49:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> no systemd and binary packages
[23:50:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> or the option to pull from gentoo's portage
[23:51:04] <Subsentient> After I'm done with my current projects, I'm contemplating resuming packrat and Epoch and finishing up SubLinux 3. This one will use musl instead of glibc. T_T
[23:51:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> so far i'm diggin it pretty well in a vm. little different but nothin i can't handle.
[23:51:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> nifty
[23:51:52] <Subsentient> That and it'll be a hybrid system, backwards 64/32 hybrid, where the userland is 32-bit by default with 64-bit libraries, and an optional 64-bit kernel.
[23:52:09] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[23:52:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> why?
[23:52:30] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: So I can run it on 32-bit systems, but still be able to run 64-bit code on my 64-bit systems.
[23:52:41] <Subsentient> I don't wanna make two versions of it.
[23:52:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> so just make the 64bit
[23:53:06] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: My netbook and servers etc can't run 64-bit.
[23:53:15] <Subsentient> I still use machines that can't execute 64-bit code.
[23:53:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> wow, that's some old hardware
[23:53:31] <Subsentient> Acer Aspire One ZG5 netbook, 8.9' screen
[23:53:45] <swiss> my macbook got delayed
[23:53:48] <swiss> fucking customs
[23:53:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> should get you a couple of the new raspberry pis. they can at least do 64bit and prolly faster than yer current kit.
[23:54:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> hang on, must prod hotwings
[23:54:16] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I already have a Pine64 and such.
[23:54:27] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: My netbook is just really convenient and tiny.
[23:56:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, hotwings are 20m from eatin
[23:56:23] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: It's one of those pieces of hardware I don't want to retire lol
[23:56:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff
[23:56:54] <Subsentient> So, backwards 32/64 hybrid, that way I can run it on anything, and execute 64-bit code on systems that support it.
[23:57:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> or you could save up $200 and get a better laptop
[23:57:29] <Subsentient> I just got one. Thinkpad T410 Core i5, refurb.
[23:57:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Zombie Apocalypse Thwarted? - http://sylnt.us - Abby-Normal
[23:57:34] <Subsentient> I'm on it now
[23:57:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[23:57:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> roger
[23:57:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> just don't wanna get rid of something that works then
[23:57:56] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: The netbook fits in some of my shorts pockets. It's so fucking adorable, and useful!