#Soylent | Logs for 2016-11-02
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[00:04:02] * cmn32480 feels clean....
[00:23:34] <cmn32480> I 💓 pizza and wings
[00:23:44] <cmn32480> which is better than moose wang
[00:25:32] <alexbst> that "google is not what it seems" might be fun.
[00:25:45] <cmn32480> huh?
[00:26:27] <alexbst> probably not news tho
[00:26:28] <alexbst> https://wikileaks.org
[00:26:30] <exec> └─ 13Julian Assange - Google Is Not What It Seems
[00:26:35] <alexbst> so much shit going on recently :)
[00:26:42] <alexbst> I will sleep shortly
[00:27:11] <cmn32480> nice to see you alexbst
[00:27:14] <cmn32480> things been good?
[00:27:20] <cmn32480> haven't seen you in a while
[00:28:09] <alexbst> been good
[00:28:11] <alexbst> been quiet here
[00:28:14] <alexbst> but I'm recently engaged
[00:28:16] <cmn32480> glad to hear it
[00:28:22] <cmn32480> WOOT!
[00:28:26] <cmn32480> congrats
[00:28:34] <alexbst> getting the prenup sorted atm
[00:28:45] * cmn32480 gives alexbst a big wet sloppy kiss in congratulations
[00:28:52] <cmn32480> ahhhh
[00:28:53] <alexbst> working to do insane shit in insane places (emulated Z/os git CI process, anyone ?)
[00:29:00] <alexbst> Z/os being the IBM kind.
[00:29:10] <alexbst> and doing AWS deployments in china.. with chef.
[00:29:19] <cmn32480> jebus
[00:29:36] <alexbst> normal estimate ? double the time
[00:29:39] <alexbst> chine estimate.. 8x
[00:29:40] <alexbst> :)
[00:29:43] <alexbst> so slow
[00:29:43] <cmn32480> she getting you an "I Love Me" jacket for the engagement?
[00:29:45] <alexbst> so shit
[00:29:58] <alexbst> she's going to do her best to get pregnant I guess.
[00:30:05] <cmn32480> you know.. the kind wiht no hand holes and it buckles in the back
[00:30:09] <alexbst> haha
[00:30:27] <alexbst> yeah, I guess.
[00:30:31] <alexbst> white leather jacket yes ?
[00:30:34] <cmn32480> you don't sound happy about that
[00:30:39] <cmn32480> with extra straps
[00:30:43] <alexbst> I'm happy about it :)
[00:30:44] <alexbst> want kids
[00:30:56] <alexbst> I've been the one negotiating the higher numbers
[00:31:08] <cmn32480> ahha
[00:31:28] <cmn32480> they are mostly wonderful little monsters
[00:31:31] <alexbst> also looking at some work things / might change what I'm doing.
[00:31:45] <cmn32480> for the better I hope
[00:31:47] <alexbst> earning good money in probably one of the best places to work as a contractor on the planet
[00:31:59] <alexbst> but I am tempted by startup life or even going perm for the right money
[00:32:14] <cmn32480> damn
[00:32:41] <alexbst> but enough about me
[00:32:48] <alexbst> it's rude to talk about oneself
[00:32:56] <alexbst> what's going on with you ? how is soylent ?
[00:32:56] <cmn32480> not if the other guy is interested
[00:33:04] <cmn32480> soylent has been good
[00:33:13] <alexbst> I still read it instead of /. FWIW
[00:33:16] <cmn32480> I've been forced to do less on it thean I had been due to work
[00:33:24] <cmn32480> that si worth a good bit
[00:33:38] <alexbst> I should contribute a few more stories
[00:34:00] <alexbst> I tend to follow some interesting things on twitter, although some of that stuff can be a bit to specific sometimes
[00:34:00] <cmn32480> all submissions welcome (except spam and soylvertisements)
[00:34:12] <alexbst> I'll think abut what I read and might submit
[00:34:13] <cmn32480> you never know with this community
[00:34:27] <alexbst> there's just so much other shit going on atm
[00:34:33] <alexbst> the jordan peterson stuff
[00:34:33] <cmn32480> there are some people in this place that have very wide interests
[00:34:44] <alexbst> brendan eich (brave!?) might be worth covering
[00:35:05] <alexbst> even the tech-alternative stuff, like frog twitter and altrightpedia aka voxpedia aka infogalactic
[00:35:15] <alexbst> worth discussing whether those things will even work out
[00:35:54] <alexbst> dare I mention everyone in government using a bloody non-government email account ? ;)
[00:36:07] <cmn32480> that has been covered ad nauseum
[00:36:31] <alexbst> yup
[00:36:33] <cmn32480> and will likely be touched again depending on the FBI results w/ Hillary
[00:36:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Shadow Brokers Identify Hundreds of Targets Allegedly Hacked by the NSA - http://sylnt.us - well,-somebody-did-it
[00:36:56] <alexbst> hopefully when the election/jailing cycle ends we can go back to normal shit like cat pictures.
[00:37:24] <cmn32480> your lips to God's ears
[00:38:23] <cmn32480> i can't wait for facebook to go back to people posting food porn
[00:38:35] <alexbst> hate linking to mr tinfoils twitter but.. https://twitter.com
[00:38:37] <exec> └─ 13Alex Jones on Twitter: "A White House petition to remove Soros-owned electronic voting machines has passed the 100k votes necessary for a response. https://t.co"
[00:38:48] <alexbst> I really have to sleep now though
[00:38:54] <cmn32480> get some rest
[00:39:02] <cmn32480> good talking to you!
[00:39:20] <alexbst> until the 9th, when we hope the world has not ended.
[00:39:33] * cmn32480 crosses fingers
[00:39:48] <cmn32480> or maybe it should?
[00:41:05] <alexbst> expect the "correction"
[00:41:07] <alexbst> zz :)
[01:06:09] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[01:06:09] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[01:08:17] * cmn32480 tosses in an M&M for good measur
[01:08:52] * cmn32480 readies the hind lick maeuver in case TheMightyBuzzard chokes
[01:09:49] <chromas> I saw a documentary about that once
[01:09:56] <chromas> every day for the last 20 years
[01:10:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, that was a porno not a documentary
[01:10:19] <cmn32480> yep... it is all over the interwebs
[01:11:56] <chromas> No, I remember it was a documentary about college sororities. There was discussion about taking in new members and then there was an oral exam.
[01:12:17] <cmn32480> what'd a dentist have to do with getting into a Sorority?
[01:12:32] * cmn32480 is confused
[01:13:26] * cmn32480 decides to research
[01:13:45] <cmn32480> pffft... like that happens in real life
[01:13:57] <chromas> Yeah, research isn't real
[01:14:08] <cmn32480> exactly!
[01:14:28] <chromas> How can research be original?
[01:14:39] <chromas> It's re search
[01:14:57] <cmn32480> you bare searching again...
[01:15:03] <cmn32480> hey!!!!!
[01:15:59] <cmn32480> bare searching is prolly what made you find that "documentary" in the first place.
[01:21:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> what do you do when you find the bare anyway? get eaten?
[01:21:30] <cmn32480> depends what's bare
[01:23:36] <cmn32480> #redtube bare eating
[01:23:47] * cmn32480 pokes mrplow
[01:23:58] <cmn32480> #smake MrPlow
[01:23:58] * MrPlow smakes MrPlow upside the head with yo mama's stank
[01:24:11] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[01:24:12] * exec figuratively twerks a sweaty armpit of snack bar for TheMightyBuzzard
[01:24:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> didn't put redtube in the rust version
[01:25:10] <cmn32480> so the rust version is inferior to the perl version in every way except memory usage?
[01:26:41] <cmn32480> this hotel is a little weird... the room looks out over the lobby
[01:26:58] <cmn32480> and if I pull back the curtains, and the neighbor does the same... we could see each other
[01:27:24] <cmn32480> I guees this place is great for those who like to be watched.
[01:27:42] <chromas> #smake archlinux
[01:27:42] * MrPlow smakes archlinux upside the head with a bag of AC LEDs
[01:28:33] <chromas> Pull back the curtain. Maybe you can start something
[01:28:52] <cmn32480> I'm fully clothed.. thanyouverymuch
[01:29:07] <chromas> Get a step stool so you can see if the neighbors' carpet matches the drapes
[01:29:12] <cmn32480> and now I got a Michael Jackson song stuck in my head
[01:29:40] <chromas> heehee!
[01:29:50] <cmn32480> #yt gotta be starting something michael jackson
[01:29:51] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[01:29:51] <chromas> cha-mon-ah!
[01:30:35] <chromas> lolol hipsters
[01:30:40] <chromas> "organic pot"
[01:31:58] * chromas imports official-yet-unsigned package developer key
[01:32:18] <cmn32480> livin' on the edge
[01:32:39] <chromas> arch has probably been infiltrated
[01:32:48] <cmn32480> systemd....
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[01:33:08] <chromas> conflicting files; deja vu font files already exist. END OF THE WORLD
[01:33:26] <cmn32480> another sign of the apocalypse
[01:33:54] <chromas> I'd better vote trump and/or hillary to keep it from getting any worse
[01:34:34] <cmn32480> both those idiots are signs of the apocalpyse
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[01:41:53] <cmn32480> jebus... the thriller music video is 13 minutes long
[01:42:29] <cmn32480> https://www.youtube.com
[01:42:31] <exec> └─ 13Michael Jackson - Thriller - YouTube
[01:45:45] <Bytram|away> http://news.berkeley.edu
[01:45:46] <exec> └─ 13Does your mind jump around, stay on task or get stuck? | Berkeley News
[01:45:49] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[01:45:52] <Bytram> !uid
[01:45:52] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6391, owned by Braintrust
[01:46:23] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[01:46:25] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 40°F, cloudy, wind SE at 7 mph, humidity 87% - Tuesday rain (37°F:42°F), Wednesday cloudy (38°F:48°F), Thursday rain (33°F:46°F), Friday snow showers (25°F:38°F)
[01:46:26] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[01:46:28] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 43°F, cloudy, wind S at 3 mph, humidity 77% - Tuesday mostly cloudy (42°F:48°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (45°F:60°F), Thursday rain (40°F:53°F), Friday cloudy (32°F:46°F)
[01:46:29] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[01:46:31] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 48°F, clear, wind S at 8 mph, humidity 75% - Tuesday partly cloudy (46°F:52°F), Wednesday mostly sunny (51°F:66°F), Thursday rain (44°F:61°F), Friday sunny (36°F:48°F)
[01:46:45] <cmn32480> I was able to stay on task for the whole 13:42 of the Thriller video
[01:46:52] <Bytram> LOL!
[01:46:53] <cmn32480> almost
[01:48:07] <Bytram> He obviously made his $millions, but I'd have to admit that his most successful songs seemed to be a result of having a powerful bass line, moreso than his singing skills
[01:48:31] * Bytram begrudgingly admits he might have bought the thriller LP back in the day.
[01:48:42] <cmn32480> and he coudl dance
[01:48:55] <cmn32480> I'm sure I have a CD of it someplace...
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[02:07:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, follow https://www.archlinux.org and you'll know about things like that ahead of time next time.
[02:07:20] <exec> └─ 13Arch Linux: Recent news updates
[02:07:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Obama Promises Graceful Social Media Transition for the Next President - http://sylnt.us - here,-have-some-followers
[02:07:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> "To upgrade to ttf-dejavu 2.37 it's recommended to upgrade the package on its own: pacman -S --force ttf-dejavu"
[02:08:03] <chromas> oh neat. that's the first time I've ever seen anything relevant in the feed
[02:08:09] <chromas> that's what I did
[02:08:29] <chromas> but I also had to import a key because it wasn't signed by any trusted devs
[02:08:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i started following it after i hosed an install doing exactly what they said not to do in the feed.
[02:08:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[02:08:55] <chromas> I checked the wiki first though
[02:09:14] * cmn32480 wonders if it is a really good build, do they call it Golden Arches Linux?
[02:09:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, there's hardly ever anything in the feed. mostly upgrades go fine.
[02:10:27] <chromas> Golden Arches Linux, now featured on the Golden Shower streaming service
[02:10:54] <cmn32480> i was thinking you could get it on the dollar menu
[02:15:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, so one of the nearby lakes wants someone to open/close the gate this winter and occasionally work the bait shop next year. does this job just scream TMB to anyone else?
[02:15:52] <cmn32480> is there a dock out back where you get to fish?
[02:15:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes
[02:16:05] <cmn32480> they provide the bait?
[02:16:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably not. i do occasionally go through $20+ in lures in a day.
[02:16:44] <cmn32480> sounds liek it might interfere with nap time
[02:16:54] <chromas> Are there wifis?
[02:17:00] * Bytram suggests that, before using the lures, you attach them to your line.
[02:17:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> there'd better be
[02:17:12] * cmn32480 snorts
[02:17:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, i knew i was doing something wrong
[02:17:30] <Bytram> not wrong, just knot rite
[02:17:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> their headquarters is 200 yards away so there's probably a hard line
[02:17:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> otherwise taking credit cards would be an issue
[02:18:05] <Bytram> worse comes to worst, pringles power for internet access
[02:18:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[02:18:25] * cmn32480 seems TMB providing his own network switch
[02:18:27] <chromas> could be dial-up internet though
[02:18:56] <cmn32480> 200 yards? not likely a hard line unless they buried fiber
[02:20:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, they want me to do the networking i'll do it for cost.
[02:20:24] * cmn32480 sees TMB using IRC through tin cans and a string
[02:20:29] <Bytram> well, maybe not for pringles unless there's a clear line-of-site
[02:20:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, is
[02:20:46] <Bytram> k
[02:21:10] * cmn32480 check s out the window to the lobby looking for flying pigs
[02:21:12] <Bytram> could prolly get by with morse code over blinken lights
[02:21:29] <Bytram> blinken lights == laser diodes
[02:22:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i need to, i can build something better than a pringles can antenna.
[02:22:59] * Bytram is not surprised at the least
[02:23:07] <Bytram> IP over avian carrier?
[02:23:15] <cmn32480> use AC LED's
[02:24:44] * Bytram did not know that Anonymous Cowards could shine like that
[02:24:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft. if need be i'll run a directional up from the two opposing rooftops. ain't no thang even for 5GHz when you got clear LoS
[02:25:15] <cmn32480> 200yds? pfft no biggie
[02:25:26] <cmn32480> cna be done w/ <$50 antennas
[02:25:39] <Bytram> ^^^ he should know
[02:26:16] <cmn32480> I thought that was blatantly obvious?
[02:26:19] * Bytram imagines TMB persuades the powers-that-be thatn cmn32480 needs to come and set things up... and the both of 'em just go finshin
[02:26:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. i may let ya pick a pair out for me if i get the gig.
[02:26:30] <Bytram> while on the payroll
[02:27:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, all winter my job would be come out in the morning, open the gate, do whatever i like till half an hour after sundown, lock the gate back.
[02:27:25] <Bytram> TMB - Gatekeeper Edition
[02:27:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> or, you know, get some night fishing in after i run everyone off.
[02:28:00] * cmn32480 will dig around for the right antennas for you.
[02:28:23] <cmn32480> but I'd need to know what AP's....
[02:28:29] <cmn32480> connector wise
[02:28:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[02:29:01] <cmn32480> or do you just wanna flood the sucker from the office
[02:29:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> bout to build myself a cantenna pair to shoot through a wall. it knocks down like 80% of my signal. very 2.4GHz unfriendly wall.
[02:29:49] <cmn32480> plaster and lathe?
[02:30:07] <Bytram> could get better throughput with a sledgehammer, or a cable
[02:30:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like plain old sheetrock but it used to be an exterior wall so no idea what all is in it.
[02:30:19] <cmn32480> brick.
[02:30:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly, yep.
[02:30:32] <Bytram> brick house, got it.
[02:30:40] <cmn32480> that'll knock yer wifi back a bit
[02:30:42] <Bytram> #y brick house
[02:30:54] <Bytram> #g brick house
[02:30:55] <MrPlow> http://brickhousetavernandtap.com - "October 30. We're geared up for a busy Sunday with baseball, football and basketball! Come claim your favorite seat in the house for our $10 burger and 16 oz."
[02:30:58] <cmn32480> #yt brick house
[02:30:59] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[02:31:05] <Bytram> merci
[02:31:09] <cmn32480> boku
[02:31:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'only like $10 for a 9 meter cable for my wifi card though. two of them and a pair of cantennas should bump the signal back up to where i can at least get what my cable modem does.
[02:31:36] <Bytram> 'boku' has a certain bouquet
[02:32:20] <cmn32480> damnit... exchange server is sitll down after reboot 5 min ago...
[02:32:22] <cmn32480> that ain't good
[02:32:37] * cmn32480 kicks his VPN
[02:32:38] <chromas> #yt the server is down
[02:32:39] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[02:33:35] <cmn32480> Im sure it is jsut the Wondows updates...
[02:34:14] <cmn32480> prolly tried to update to Windows 10
[02:36:10] <cmn32480> Stage 13 of 13...
[02:36:14] <cmn32480> JFC
[02:37:00] <Bytram> oh! my lucky number... twice!
[02:37:12] * cmn32480 loves VM ware
[02:37:24] <cmn32480> I'm now watchign on the console from 1000 miles away
[02:38:15] <Bytram> was VM ware associated with rational Software in a ny way?
[02:38:22] <Bytram> s ny / any /
[02:39:12] <cmn32480> currently owned by Dell from when they bought EMC
[02:42:49] <Bytram> nod nod; is late and I knew I had a misfired neuron in there somewhere
[02:42:55] <cmn32480> people need ot believe me when I tell them shit
[02:43:15] <Bytram> wasn't VMWare on its own before EMC bought 'em
[02:43:18] <cmn32480> sales rep asked for a quote for a SINGLE ROLL of custom labels.
[02:43:24] <cmn32480> yep
[02:43:41] <cmn32480> I told him it was gonna be around $400/roll for a single roll
[02:43:48] <cmn32480> bitch I was off by $10
[02:43:54] <cmn32480> it was $390/roll
[02:43:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[02:43:59] <exec> └─ 13Trigger Happy - by Weird Al - YouTube
[02:44:18] <cmn32480> got an AK47 and you know it makes me feel all right
[02:44:37] <cmn32480> got an uzi by my pillow helps me sleep a little better at night
[02:44:41] <Bytram> that, and napalm in the morning?
[02:44:54] <cmn32480> there's no feeling any greater, then to shoot first and ask questions later
[02:44:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i filled that kitty cat so full of lead, we'll have to use him as a pencil instead
[02:45:15] <cmn32480> bop sho wop boo wop wop shoo wop
[02:45:20] <SirFinkus> no school tomorrow
[02:45:28] <SirFinkus> party time
[02:46:46] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[02:46:49] <exec> └─ 13Google punts WoSign, StartCom from good guy certificate club • The Register
[02:47:44] <Bytram> break time
[02:48:02] <cmn32480> better watch out punk or I'm gonna have to blow you away
[02:50:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, sleep time for me. see yall tomorrow.
[02:50:33] <Bytram> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[02:50:35] * exec casually steals a github of grainy keyboard crumbs from TheMightyBuzzard
[02:50:43] <cmn32480> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[02:50:44] * exec slowly requisitions an example of relevant whitespace for TheMightyBuzzard
[02:52:55] <Bytram> actually, that is a good idea...
[02:53:01] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[02:53:07] <Bytram|away> ~gnight cmn32480
[02:53:08] * exec insatiably an overflowing chest of rocket sauce floccinaucinihilipilificates cmn32480
[02:53:11] <Bytram|away> ~gnight SirFinkus
[02:53:13] * exec romantically drops a shoeful of Jesus Juice on SirFinkus
[02:53:15] <Bytram|away> ~gnight chromas
[02:53:16] <cmn32480> ~gnight Bytram|away
[02:53:16] * exec casually combines a B-tree of tama lama ding dongs with chromas
[02:53:19] * exec irresponsibly gives a shoeful of coffee++ to Bytram|away
[02:53:21] <SirFinkus> night
[02:53:27] <chromas> ~g'night Bytram|away
[02:53:29] <SirFinkus> now the real party can start
[02:53:29] * exec disturbingly crams a BTRFS subvolume of 💩 into Bytram|away
[02:53:46] <SirFinkus> accurately describes most BTRFS volumes
[02:53:51] * Bytram|away is too tired to figure out if he won or what.
[02:53:56] <SirFinkus> based on my last experience with the filesystem
[02:53:59] <Bytram|away> laters
[02:54:08] <SirFinkus> fuck off already Bytram|away
[02:54:28] <SirFinkus> we're trying to have FUN
[02:54:29] <SirFinkus> a concept alien to you I know
[03:01:38] * cmn32480 decides t call it a night too
[03:01:43] <cmn32480> ~gnight SirFinkus
[03:01:45] * exec deliciously poops a raid 5 volume of childhood memories for SirFinkus
[03:01:58] <SirFinkus> laaaame
[03:02:00] <cmn32480> ~gnight chromas
[03:02:02] * exec problematically flings a whiff of terrible puns at chromas
[03:02:09] <cmn32480> joooooobbbbb
[03:02:15] <chromas> ~g'night cmn32480
[03:02:17] * exec insensitively coalesces a truecrypt volume of the dankest of memes with cmn32480
[03:02:21] <cmn32480> maybe if you had one, you'd understand
[03:47:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Ends Sale of Windows 7 and 8.1 Licenses to OEMs - http://sylnt.us - tears-were-shed-across-the-land
[04:01:55] <SirFinkus> oh, a bit late, but fuck you cmn32480, I have a job
[04:02:01] <SirFinkus> I have to like, hook up sound shit
[04:02:03] <SirFinkus> and drink beer
[04:02:27] <SirFinkus> and get hit on by women
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[06:48:00] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, 18°C/65°F, 5:47 pm AEDT, Wednesday, 2 November 2016
[07:06:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tech Advances Since the Last Cubs World Series Win - http://sylnt.us - root-for-the-Indians-to-keep-the-streak-alive
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[10:29:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:29:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2972
[10:32:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[10:32:39] <MrPlow> Today: A mix of clouds and sun. Near record high temperatures. High 84F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. Tomorrow: Mainly cloudy. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High 79F. SW winds shifting to NNW at 10 to 15 mph.
[11:36:59] <weeds> #weather
[11:36:59] <MrPlow> No location found for weeds
[11:37:11] <weeds> and how do I fix that?
[11:37:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think it's #weather-add <location>
[11:38:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> you can also pass a specific location to override your saved location
[11:38:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather Boston, MA
[11:38:20] <MrPlow> Today: Sunshine and clouds mixed. High 68F. Winds SW at 10 to 15 mph. Tomorrow: Cloudy with rain developing later in the day. High 62F. Winds ESE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80%.
[11:38:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather
[11:38:26] <MrPlow> Today: Some sun this morning with increasing clouds this afternoon. High 81F. Winds ENE at 10 to 15 mph. Tomorrow: Mostly cloudy skies early will become partly cloudy later in the day. High 81F. Winds ENE at 10 to 15 mph.
[11:56:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> weeds, #weatheradd city, state or #weatheradd zipcode
[11:57:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Gannett Ends Pursuit of Rival Newspaper Publisher Tronc - http://sylnt.us - needs-a-bigger-comics-section
[12:00:01] <cmn32480> ~weather carol Stream, IL
[12:00:02] <exec> 10Carol Stream, IL, USA - currently 60°F / 16°C, cloudy, wind NE at 1 mph, humidity 89% - Wednesday thunderstorm (46°F:69°F / 8°C:21°C), Thursday sunny (43°F:64°F / 6°C:18°C), Friday sunny (44°F:61°F / 7°C:16°C), Saturday sunny (42°F:66°F / 6°C:19°C)
[12:00:13] <cmn32480> not bad
[12:02:09] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[12:02:09] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[12:07:31] * cmn32480 yawns back
[12:07:37] * cmn32480 yawns
[12:07:37] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into cmn32480's gaping mouth
[12:07:57] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:07:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2973
[12:10:10] * cmn32480 shuts down and heads for the customer site... back tonight
[12:12:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:12:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2974
[12:24:56] <weeds> #weatheradd 43017
[12:24:56] <MrPlow> Location for weeds set to 43017
[12:25:16] <weeds> #weather
[12:25:17] <MrPlow> Today: Sun and clouds mixed. Record high temperatures expected. High 78F. Winds SSW at 10 to 15 mph. Tomorrow: Rain ending early. Breaks of sun in the afternoon. High 62F. Winds NW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80%.
[12:28:26] * TheMightyBuzzard debates on playing with MrPlow's code some today
[12:48:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, think i'll read a book
[12:56:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> books are good
[12:56:51] <boru> They are delicious.
[13:00:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> yes they are
[13:00:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> but some of them make for good reading as well as good eating!
[13:01:02] <boru> Of course. Read and devour, in that order.
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[13:11:04] <chromas> all that fiber makes for excellent bathroom reading
[13:11:50] <chromas> the pages wipe themselves on the way out
[13:12:36] * boru chuckles.
[13:38:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - http://sylnt.us - phone-phreaks-rejoice
[13:40:22] <boru> Huh? When wasn't it legal?
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[14:00:35] <FatPhil> even asking that question isn't legal!!!
[14:02:23] * boru commits copious thought crimes.
[14:03:37] * FatPhil hands boru a tissue
[14:05:43] <boru> Pft.
[15:16:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hypersonic Cruise Missile Scores USD$175m DARPA Cash - http://sylnt.us - that's-quick
[15:18:53] <weeds> I found an article I would like to submit or to be considered, what's the process?
[15:21:41] <weeds> o, crap, it is old news
[15:31:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> weeds: You can use one of the bots to submit here (MrPlow with #submit <url>, which will say it was submitted for you; or exec via ~submit <url>, which won't give credit), or you can submit on the site at https://soylentnews.org
[15:31:33] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Submissions
[15:32:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> You can also see what's in the editorial queue and the publication queue: https://soylentnews.org
[15:32:09] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Submissions
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[16:04:12] <FatPhil> anyone know the syntax for blocking divs with particular css classes in adbock?
[16:18:50] <FatPhil> ##div.$CLASS - easy peasy. After trying about 10 other things that didn't work!
[16:20:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit http://blog.bugreplay.com Another reason to blocks scripts and whitelist where needed rather than relying on AdBlock
[16:20:10] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[16:20:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> well, piss off, MrPlow
[16:20:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~submit http://blog.bugreplay.com
[16:21:27] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
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[16:42:09] <FatPhil> interesting. lions and gazelles...
[16:47:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Gambler Wins...$42.9 million (or -20 Cents or $2.25); is Offered Steak Dinner - http://sylnt.us - I-just-won-the-Jack-Not...-oh-wait
[17:00:29] <mechanicjay> I wish I could get a refund from King Country Metro some days.
[17:17:59] <FatPhil> Dafudge - the "always ask" cookie option seems to have disappeared from (debian stable's) Firefox!?!?
[17:19:45] <FatPhil> cnuts - this happened last week: [UPGRADE] iceweasel:amd64 38.7.1esr-1~deb8u1 -> 45.3.0esr-1~deb8u1
[17:20:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> Firefox can eat box of fat dicks. Use Pale Moon instead.
[17:22:29] <FatPhil> Tempted to rewind to a pre-44 version, that apparently is when they silently made the change.
[17:22:40] <FatPhil> http://www.ghacks.net
[17:22:42] <exec> └─ 13Firefox 44:"Ask me every time" cookie option removed - gHacks Tech News
[17:38:44] <FatPhil> How the fuck can a Pale Moon installer download site demand you use javascript in order to access the downloads? That seems to be antithetical to the aims of a Pale Moon user.
[17:40:22] <FatPhil> Bletch, all the JS did was render either the debian-relevant text or the ubuntu-relevant text
[17:40:31] <FatPhil> some people need to die
[17:41:18] <boru> Real Menâ„¢ clone from github and port it to their OS.
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[17:56:29] <FatPhil> real men delegate tedious things to others whom they trust to do the job adequately
[18:17:21] <FatPhil> well, let's give pale moon a go.
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[18:23:46] <mechanicjay> FatPhil: I ran PaleMoon for about six months and eventually just gave up on it. Unless they've updated the plugin-model to be compatible with newer versions of FF, there were just a few extensions that were completely borked.
[18:25:55] <FatPhil> all I really need is adblock and noscript
[18:26:22] <FatPhil> I might just have to finally learn how to revert to an older iceweasel, and stick pre-44
[18:27:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - All it Takes to Steal Your Face is a Special Pair of Glasses - http://sylnt.us - you-lookin'-at-ME?
[18:27:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> FatPhil: Standard AdBlock doesn't work, but there's a PM-specific fork called Ad Block Latitude available on addons.palemoon.org
[18:29:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> NoScript, on the other hand, should work as-is.
[18:29:56] <FatPhil> yeah, ABL looks similar enough that it should be fine.
[18:30:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> ABL is maintained by Matt A Tobin who is also one of the browser developers
[18:30:48] <FatPhil> I didn't use any filter lists historically, I blocked everything one at a time (to keep the matching quick and the footprint small)
[18:31:24] <FatPhil> I have pretty low demands from my browser - the less it does the happier I am!
[18:32:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> Then I think you'll be very happy with Pale Moon - Markus Straver (Moonchild)'s position is that the browser should be for downloading and displaying HTML documents, rather than the operating-system-on-top-of-an-operating-system that Google is trying to Chrome into.
[18:36:57] <xhedit> Why use adblock instead of ublock?
[18:38:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> why use uBlock instead of Request Policy Continued? All of the ads these days are loaded by scripts, Reqest Policy Continued blocks by default but lets you whitelist by host page/script host combination.
[18:45:21] <FatPhil> xhedit: I had ublock on one of my machines, and it didn't seem to be blocking most things
[19:32:55] <xhedit> I use noscript and ublock and the anti ad killer list and i never see ads, though forbes won't load
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[19:44:37] <exec> welcome chromas: Walla Walla, WA, USA, 21°C/69°F, 12:44 pm GMT-7, Wednesday, 2 November 2016
[19:51:57] <boru> uBlock works fine for me with PM. I use it alongside uMatrix.
[19:52:09] <boru> uBlock Origin, that is.
[19:52:20] <boru> (On Linux boxen at work, that is)
[19:55:55] <FatPhil> ublock origin was what I used, I still saw loads of ads and found no way to get rid of them.
[19:56:21] <boru> Hmm. I can't say it failed me at any point that I can recall.
[19:57:15] <FatPhil> The HD with that OS isn't presently in a machine, so I can't have a quick peek
[19:57:45] <FatPhil> This was a good watch... https://soylentnews.org
[19:57:47] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | UK Insurer Uses Facebook to Set Car Insurance Rates
[19:58:25] <FatPhil> Rather similar to a couple of previous Black Mirrors, but more this-isn't-future-fiction-this-is-happening-right-now
[20:03:32] <SirFinkus> holy fuck https://derflounder.wordpress.com
[20:03:33] <exec> └─ 13iCloud Desktop and Documents in macOS Sierra – The Good, The Bad and the Ugly | Der Flounder
[20:03:49] <SirFinkus> I can't really think of a more fucked up way to handle that
[20:08:38] <FatPhil> OSX, like MacOS before it, was designed by people with a one-button brain.
[20:08:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Advisory Committee Skeptical of Spacex Manned Refueling Plan - http://sylnt.us - laughing-in-the-face-of-danger
[20:14:58] <swiss> what's the complaint?
[20:15:39] <swiss> I actually think we're undergoing a major shift in file storage structure, and people who have grown up with the traditional tree file structure can't help but yell "BAD IDEA" and "TERRIBLE" because it's so different
[20:16:14] <SirFinkus> it's opaque, and if you opt out after signing up for it, all your shit disappears
[20:16:18] <SirFinkus> or at least it appears too
[20:16:43] <swiss> I think we're moving towards file tagging and categorization rather than tree structure it's easier to add security, and limit permissions using it
[20:17:06] <swiss> And people are freaking out because "MY FILE ISN'T IN FOLDERS" and such
[20:17:40] <swiss> Windows is slowly doing it by creating the "Documents" overarching group and such
[20:18:24] <swiss> But we moved from mainframe style storage to the tree structure, and next I think we move to this "tagging" structure (prettymuch object storage)
[20:18:33] <SirFinkus> not freaking out because my file isn't in folders, I'm freaking out because "my file isn't there anymore"
[20:18:46] <swiss> yeah, i'm not talking about the specific icloud issue
[20:18:52] <SirFinkus> I suppose it's technically there, maybe
[20:18:53] <swiss> that link doesn't work at the office
[20:19:11] <SirFinkus> oh, I assure you it's shitty
[20:19:32] <SirFinkus> I'm a dumbfuck for enabling that "feature"
[20:19:54] <swiss> I like the idea of all my shit being the same between my computers, but I don't want to pay for more icloud storage
[20:29:59] <SirFinkus> ok, I think I undid it?
[20:30:04] <SirFinkus> maybe all my files are there
[20:30:18] <SirFinkus> pucker factor is high
[20:31:25] * chromas awaits the fappening 2.1
[20:33:42] <SirFinkus> more like the "restore from backupsning"
[20:35:55] * mechanicjay searches for his motivation
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[23:19:43] <Deucalion> cmn32480, tickle back. Just wanted to piffle your wiffle about some wifi stuff. Suspect you know more than me.
[23:20:18] * Deucalion sends mechanicjay 7x Motivational MREs
[23:24:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, Deucalion, we're out of queued stories. want me to pick a few?
[23:24:09] * TheMightyBuzzard cackles evilly
[23:24:11] <Deucalion> swiss, all the filesystem directory structure is, is in fact file tagging when you get down to it :P I seem to remember this "directory structure will be no more we'll just tag stuff" yodel from at least 15 years ago.
[23:25:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, swiss, yeah, tags are a bloody stupid way to organize millions of files. you're going to need a folder structure just to store the tag names cause you'll never remember them all.
[23:26:07] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: what are folders, if not tags?
[23:26:22] <Deucalion> Eh fuck... the choice between me having to do it whilst falling asleep and letting you loose on it with your editorial bias and subtlety.... how about... pick 2 each to 1st ed, then 2nd ed and release each others (ooh-eer!!)
[23:26:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> what are tags if not folders?
[23:26:44] <swiss> folders without the complexity of symlinking each file into each directory
[23:27:05] <swiss> but getting rid of the old way is "scary" and I understand that
[23:27:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh no, the complexity is still there.
[23:27:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> you'd just have a handy tool for it
[23:27:41] <swiss> I'm talking about on the filesystem layer, not on top of the filesystem
[23:27:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't matter which layer it's in to the user
[23:28:00] <swiss> I'm talking about doing straight object storage, not mimicking object storage in a tree structure
[23:28:00] <Deucalion> Dirs are hierarchical for a start. "Tags" are some cloudy BS.... ye gads... do you remember those "trending" word cloud things that were all the rage on sites some years back... the more "popular" the word the bigger it was in the cloud of words. ~bloik~
[23:28:11] <swiss> you can do tiered tags
[23:28:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you're going to organize them hierarchically, tags are the wrong way to do it.
[23:28:50] <Deucalion> tiered tags on a tiered FS dir structure... makes sense to abstract what is already an abstraction :/
[23:29:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> folders are inherently hierarchical. tags are soup.
[23:29:25] <chromas> I liked the Views opera mail used to havev
[23:29:27] <swiss> You could create groups of tags. That doesn't mean they're restricted to only one group
[23:29:52] <swiss> December Trip 2015 might be under "Colorado" but it's also under "Winter" and "Vacation"
[23:30:01] * Deucalion wants to know how old swiss is so badly.
[23:30:07] <swiss> Deucalion: 23
[23:30:16] * Deucalion nods
[23:30:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> which would be useful for a photo app but not especially desirable for a filesystem
[23:30:26] * chromas stores all his files in cloudnosql
[23:30:36] <swiss> and I've been doing linux stuff seriously (more than fb machine) for about a decade thus far
[23:31:40] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: fine, let's talk about documents. Financial Report for November 2015. Filed under PDFs, Financial Reports, November Reports, and Presentations.
[23:31:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> tagging i could see sitting as a meta-filesystem on top of a folder-based one but there is zero reason to retrain billions of people
[23:32:16] <swiss> i'm sure that's what the first step will be, just like zOS for mainframes
[23:32:43] <swiss> in fact, I already know that companies like Dreamworks do it for their movies/animations
[23:32:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> and that would be useful. getting rid of the underlying disk structure and going purely tags would not.
[23:33:08] <swiss> What's special about the underlying disk structure? The fact that you grew up using it?
[23:33:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> the fact that it is logical. tags aren't.
[23:33:46] <swiss> I imagine we'll have a tag based disk structure first (object storage) with an abstraction layer to folderes
[23:34:00] <Deucalion> swiss, I don't doubt your chops and I'm not taking the piss. Just I've seen this particular thing go past before. And after too many years and seeing such things come and go, get re-invented just to come and go again... well that does make me chuckle. Object based storage is a thing for sure, as is meta-tagging abstraction in various forms.
[23:34:17] <swiss> Deucalion: the difference is the move to tablets and cell phones
[23:34:33] <swiss> and the security implications (and incredible benefits) of tag based storage
[23:34:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're welcome to think that if you like. i'm going to continue thinking it's not going to happen in any serious OS.
[23:34:44] <Deucalion> why? It's still a puter... believe it or not we had cell phones in the 90s :P
[23:34:51] <Deucalion> with files on!!
[23:34:59] <swiss> SELinux is doing tag based stuff for security already
[23:35:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> next you'll be telling me ten years from now we'll all be using some silly-ass vr interface
[23:35:48] <swiss> Photos/Videos/Documents are already prettymuch in a tag based structure for mobile and tablets today
[23:36:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> funny, mine're in folders
[23:36:28] <swiss> because i'm sure you're using an irregular fashion of device
[23:36:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, htc is pretty mainstream
[23:36:59] <swiss> market percentage for your device and method of accessing your data?
[23:37:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> why would any user give a damn about that?
[23:37:41] <swiss> I'm talking about how it's abstracted to users. Which is what matters.
[23:38:14] <swiss> and with shit like docker, you're already seeing services being installed like apps
[23:38:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh there's a few different views but none of them are tagged.
[23:38:30] <swiss> does HTC run their own OS, or is it android?
[23:38:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> android
[23:39:07] <swiss> thought that android photo let you tag pictures
[23:39:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> knowing to check in $blah or check for all photos != tagging
[23:39:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> it might. i've never run into it though.
[23:39:35] <chromas> There've been several tag-based filesystems for years. Still wating for them to take over the world
[23:40:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> and why would i want to use it when it's so much easier to drag and drop than to type a tag half a million times?
[23:40:11] <swiss> I think Apple's going to do it on the macbook soonish. ChromeOS is essentially tag based though.
[23:40:16] <chromas> Folders could be an abstraction for tags though
[23:40:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. it's a fad that sounds nice but will never go anywhere serious
[23:40:28] <swiss> folders restrict you to a single tag
[23:40:41] <swiss> if you're set on folders, then group them and tag them with only one tag
[23:40:44] <Deucalion> noo... you need to think more "meta"
[23:41:01] <Deucalion> a file can have multiple tags and still reside in a single dir
[23:41:38] <swiss> what's the point of the dir then, from the filesystem's point of view
[23:41:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, can i start pasting irc logs as stories? we're out.
[23:42:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think i need booze
[23:42:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, booze
[23:43:32] <Deucalion> for e.g. my music... /music/$Artist/$Album/$track-$SongTitle in the dir structure... yet in my audio apps that is very much abstracted away to become tagged by genre, year, artist etc as tags... mp3 and flac even have this concept baked right in in their structure... the tags are in the file headers... or can just be abstracted into the app
[23:43:46] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, we have nothing in the hopper even?
[23:44:12] * Deucalion goes to look
[23:44:49] * Deucalion feeds TheMightyBuzzard a morning pill
[23:44:54] <chromas> #submit http://www.geekwire.com
[23:44:55] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[23:44:56] <exec> └─ 13NASA says Webb telescope is ready for testing
[23:45:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, well we have subs just no queued stories
[23:45:20] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[23:45:20] <chromas> ~submit http://www.networkworld.com
[23:45:22] <exec> └─ 13Black Hat Europe: IoT devices can hack phones | Network World
[23:45:27] <swiss> Deucalion: why not just have them tagged in the FS, and "group by artist, group by album within that"
[23:45:53] <chromas> oh yeah, remember WinFS?
[23:45:54] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[23:47:29] <Deucalion> swiss, because FS limits on number of files per dir, because they are essentially tagged within the file themselves, because it makes backups easier if things a hierarchical, because sooo many reasons
[23:48:01] <swiss> Deucalion: why not just back up certain tagged things
[23:48:38] <Deucalion> swiss, build it and they will come no doubt
[23:48:55] * Deucalion looks at the subs and tries to remember how to edit
[23:49:13] <swiss> Deucalion: i mean, this is how online object storage is working
[23:49:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> swiss, because maybe i specifically want to back up anal movies but not bisexual movies and one folder worth of backups becomes a complex logic chain
[23:49:38] <Deucalion> It's how you see it working.
[23:50:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> folders are very simple and very efficient. complexity is fine where it's useful but it is not useful at the fs level
[23:50:33] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: but that's easy. Back up "Anal + Porn"
[23:50:57] <swiss> folders are just single tags that apply to every file under them
[23:51:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> swiss, bisexual is going to include anal but would be in another folder
[23:51:10] <chromas> You could present tags as folders. pr0n/videos/goats could represent the tags "pr0n" and "goats". Plus then you could do them an any order
[23:51:20] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, just face it... we're clearly out of touch, this future is beyond our ability to adapt :D
[23:51:30] <chromas> pr0n/goats/bisexual or pr0n/bixexual/goats
[23:51:35] <swiss> chromas: i mean, that's basically what a filesystem is from what I can tell
[23:51:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, that's what they keep telling me but i'm still using a keyboard and mouse a gerzillion years later
[23:52:11] <chromas> it's a hierarchical database, much like the windows registry. We all hate that, right? So let's move on to tags then
[23:52:13] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: also, your current system is that you're putting bisexual anal movies in bisexual, and not tagging them as anal in that case
[23:52:41] <swiss> chromas: right, but the tree structure is just a layer of individual tags
[23:52:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> swiss, ah but tagging them as both would allow more detailed searching. which i might want at an application level.
[23:53:34] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: sure. But you're talking about you manually selecting groups to backup (by deciding which folder they're in) compounded with directory tagging
[23:53:50] <swiss> if you're going through that effort, you might as well just be assigning the tag "backup"
[23:53:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> complexity is not the friend of any admin evar.
[23:54:12] <swiss> But really, you could just create a clause for backup
[23:54:33] * Deucalion notes for all - anyone visiting the UK... don't view goat porn or possess it... that'll be many years in the clink. In fact I think line 36547474 of directive 12 of the Extreme Porn Laws state nothing but Missionary position for 25 seconds on the third Tuesday in any given month and only for the purposes of procreation and only if it's not enjoyable.
[23:54:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> or i could use the massively debugged system that already works.
[23:54:47] <swiss> (porn + anal) - bisexual
[23:55:21] <swiss> you're treating your current method when it's less work, but you're actually performing more work in a different way
[23:55:37] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com oh fuck, nobody in the UK click this link
[23:55:39] <exec> └─ 13A ROMANTIC PICNIC FOR FIVE - YouTube
[23:55:51] <swiss> when you select to put things in bisexual in your current system, but not tag them as anal, you're manually deciding which files to backup
[23:55:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> tell ya what. you want it, build it and use it on yer own stuff. i'll stick to my old fashioned stone tablets here.
[23:56:23] * Deucalion sets a bush on fire and claims its a miracle!
[23:56:40] <swiss> Why aren't you just storing them on the right lpar instead
[23:56:44] * TheMightyBuzzard sets Deucalion's bush on fire
[23:56:51] <swiss> then you could just back up that LPAR!
[23:57:34] <Deucalion> thanks... it needed a trim... a bit whiffy way to get rid of it... but sans the crackling and smell it seemed pretty effective
[23:58:06] * TheMightyBuzzard backs everything up to a raid array of 50000 1.44MB floppy drives
[23:58:41] <SirFinkus> raid 0 I hope
[23:58:48] <SirFinkus> also "raid array"
[23:58:58] <SirFinkus> you got the redundant part right
[23:59:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, zactly