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[07:13:18] <boru> This server sure needs SASL...
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[08:10:27] * chromas is connected with SASL
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[08:27:56] <boru> Which SASL method are you using?
[08:46:00] <chromas> I dunno. I just checked the Use SASL Authentication box
[08:46:13] <boru> Hmm.
[08:46:23] <crutchy> is SASL better than green beret login?
[08:46:50] <chromas> What's your client?
[08:46:58] <crutchy> s/login/layer/
[08:46:58] <sedctl> <crutchy> is SASL better than green beret layer?
[08:47:03] <chromas> Adam SASLer
[08:47:08] <crutchy> lol
[08:47:11] <boru> I'm using irssi.
[08:48:29] <boru> I will bother someone in the IRC team when they're online.
[08:49:05] <chromas> SN uses charybdis with atheme services, if that helps
[08:49:20] <boru> irssi's built in doesn't support ecdsa-nist256p-challenge yet, though. /me grumbles
[08:49:37] <boru> Hmm, it should be able to handle 'external' then, I think.
[08:49:51] <boru> So I could use certfp for the challenge.
[08:50:11] <boru> I'll look into that in a bit. It'd just make reconnecting/ghosting less of a pain.
[08:50:26] <chromas> https://freenode.net
[08:50:27] <dogbox> ^ 03Configuring SASL for Irssi - freenode
[08:50:42] <crutchy> boru, you looking for the soylent irc ssl certs?
[08:51:10] <boru> Nah, I just need to generate a client side cert and setup my network line to use certfp for the SASL challenge.
[08:51:22] <crutchy> oh
[08:51:23] <boru> It's easy. I'll try it in a while.
[08:51:59] <crutchy> sn has a cert authority and irc cert as well, if there's any grief
[08:52:09] <crutchy> its up somewhere
[08:52:13] <crutchy> ~link cert
[08:52:13] <boru> I'm a bit browned off at irssi that they broke the existing implementation with an incomplete solution.
[08:52:15] <exec> └─ "cert" not found
[08:52:18] <crutchy> :(
[08:52:21] * boru chuckles.
[08:52:56] <boru> I might actually submit a patch for that, when I get time.
[08:52:58] <crutchy> ~last channel=#soylent message=crt
[08:53:01] <exec> 03<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
[08:53:01] <exec> 03<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
[08:53:01] <exec> 03"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
[08:53:01] <exec> 03<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en" xml:lang="en">
[08:53:01] <exec> 03<head>
[08:53:02] <exec> 0336 records not shown - refer to http://chromas.0x.no
[08:53:08] <crutchy> derp
[08:53:13] <chromas> oh yea
[08:53:19] * chromas still hasn't fixed that
[08:53:23] <crutchy> lol
[08:53:34] <chromas> something made my php brokeded
[08:53:36] <crutchy> don't worry. there's plenty of exec that's borked too
[08:53:42] <chromas> always returns 500s
[08:53:47] <crutchy> oh
[08:53:59] <boru> I always return 418.
[08:54:19] <crutchy> I always return library books
[08:54:33] <boru> My snort logs are full of confused skiddies.
[08:54:53] <boru> You can tell exactly what's going through their mind.
[08:56:39] <chromas> "Where's the nudez?"
[08:57:25] <boru> Morelike "all I know how to scan for is wordpress and PHP. what does 418 mean? :("
[08:57:57] <boru> ~g HTTP 418
[08:57:59] <exec> [google] https://en.wikipedia.org
[08:58:36] <chromas> I just looked it up too. Found someone getting stack overflows when they get that status ;)
[08:59:29] <crutchy> i like 451
[09:00:03] <crutchy> except i would modify the messae to say something like "You have performed an illegal operation. The FBI is on its way."
[09:00:05] <boru> Heh, yeah, they coined that from a scifi novel, iirc.
[09:00:29] <boru> Oh, yeah, Fahrenheit 451 by Bradbury.
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[12:12:03] <boru> FFS, python is such a PoS language... No postfix operators, no do-while loop, no body-less loops... I will never understand how people can actually want to use it.
[12:12:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> I won't either
[12:13:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> having actually worked in it a bit, it's not as horrible as I thought it was at first, but I still consider it very far from being good.
[12:13:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> (also, syntactically relevant whitespace pisses me off.)
[12:13:50] <boru> Aye, I try to avoid using it as much as I can, but some of the in-house tools here rely on it, unfortunately.
[12:16:28] <boru> The bloody regex interface. Good grief.
[12:16:58] <boru> I think I might just write something in Perl which uses this python monstrosity as a data pipe _only_
[12:17:24] <mecctro> well, it is regex
[12:17:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> my current project is updating some Perl code; I was able to do `$variable =~ s/z //i;` and it made me so happy regex processing is one of the things Perl is *good* at.
[12:18:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> reminds me of something in my quotes file
[12:18:17] <boru> Aye, so very expressive and flexible.
[12:18:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> [21:01:06] <@mrecho> /^([\w-]+(?:\.[\w-]+)*)@((?:[\w-]+\.)*\w[\w-]{0,66})\.([a-z]{2,6}(?:\.[a-z]{2})?)$/i
[12:18:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> [21:01:42] <@xles> I wish I couldn't read that.
[12:18:40] * boru chuckles.
[12:18:54] <boru> That's pretty readable to my eyes, too.
[12:19:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> (I don't grok what teh regex does, just the reaction amused me.)
[12:19:42] <mecctro> regex is a real pocket knife.
[12:20:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> and Perl is a Swiss army chainsaw.
[12:20:39] <mecctro> perl performs regexps faster than golang
[12:20:39] <NCommander> morning world
[12:20:43] <boru> Aye, when Awk doesn't cut it for text processing, Perl does, and then some.
[12:20:48] * NCommander hates golang
[12:20:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~gday NCommander
[12:20:51] * exec carefully bitchslaps a gallon of the aids with NCommander
[12:20:52] <NCommander> Absolute despise it
[12:21:25] <mecctro> I don't mind it, it fits a particular niche for me.
[12:21:29] <cmn32480> ~gday NCommander
[12:21:31] * exec sneakily pesters a blerg of $beverage with NCommander
[12:21:46] <NCommander> The language manages to inhertint many of the bad design flaws of C, and fails to learn good things it could have from say Ada or OCmal
[12:22:05] <NCommander> Strong typing for one in a compiled language is very important. Go's type system is crap.
[12:22:59] <NCommander> mecctro, my problem with perl in general is it has the "line noise" problem. I can code in perl if I put my mind to it, but it's not a language I greatly enjoy.
[12:24:24] <mecctro> For me golang is quick and clean, partiularly compared with say... python, c#, java, php / etc.
[12:24:39] <NCommander> I used to like Python a lot, but I feel the language as a whole is more or less getting worse
[12:24:42] <cmn32480> says the guy who rewrote rehash in perl....
[12:25:02] <NCommander> cmn32480, it *came* in Perl :P
[12:25:22] <chromas> I wonder what the current /. runs on
[12:25:31] <NCommander> Perl/mod_perl 2
[12:25:36] <mecctro> I'm not really knowledgable enough in perl to say what I like or dislike about it (yet), but juding through what I've seen so for I can certainly understand what you mean about "line noise"
[12:25:38] <chromas> Maybe they rewrote it in ruby or whatever was trendy a couple years ago
[12:25:54] <mecctro> ruby oh lawd
[12:25:59] <NCommander> mecctro, the other main issue I have with it is the syntax is far too flexible. For example, postfix if: unless X statement
[12:26:16] <NCommander> It's easy to miss the behavior of something; its like if statements in C without brackets
[12:26:20] <chromas> Rewrite in Pascal
[12:26:39] <NCommander> I'd do COBOL on Wheelchair except COBOL really sucks with unstructed data
[12:26:43] <mecctro> yea, that's a bit wonky for me.
[12:26:57] <chromas> lolo, is Wheelchair a framework?
[12:27:14] <NCommander> https://github.com
[12:27:14] <dogbox> ^✓ 03GitHub - azac/cobol-on-wheelchair: Micro web-framework for COBOL
[12:27:14] <mecctro> sounds like one that COBOL would need ;)
[12:27:37] <NCommander> I've actually coded in COBOOL
[12:27:52] <NCommander> If you're working with strictly formatted data and mostly doing reporting, it's not horrid
[12:28:09] <NCommander> At least if you can use modern syntax. Legacy syntax sucks
[12:28:11] <mecctro> I've had the unfortunate experience of inheriting some and having to debug it, poorly. I'm not a fan.
[12:28:27] <NCommander> mecctro, better than APL :)
[12:28:31] <mecctro> RPG
[12:28:49] <mecctro> just straight subs, for reporting, hell of a lot less painful.
[12:28:59] <NCommander> mecctro, COBOL has the advantage it's fairly easy to read it, and stupid tricks are less common
[12:29:11] <NCommander> mecctro, oh I won't do anything *new* in COBOL, but there is worse
[12:29:43] <mecctro> you're right, I've certainly had worse enounters, but I wouldn't put it the bottom of my shit-list either lol
[12:29:55] <NCommander> Honestly, and I know people are going to think I'm mad, but I rather enjoy coding in Ada
[12:30:26] <mecctro> naw, pass
[12:31:49] <mecctro> How do you feel about fortran?
[12:32:15] <NCommander> mecctro, never worked with it extensively. Modern fortran doesn't seem horrid. I won't want to touch F77 code though
[12:32:18] <mecctro> I've had some diddlings with it, mostly junking around compiling math libs for PHP.
[12:32:47] <mecctro> I can't even remember which version I was using, I think 2003
[12:33:13] <NCommander> I'm personally glad I haven't had to touch PHP in years
[12:33:35] <mecctro> I went way to long on that train...
[12:34:53] <mecctro> I've been side-stepping too golang for everything I would typically write in php anymore.
[12:34:57] <mecctro> to*
[12:35:02] <NCommander> I much rather use golang than PHP
[12:35:10] <NCommander> Then again, I rather write CGI in C than do it in PHP
[12:35:36] <mecctro> that's really the main niche golang fills for me,
[12:36:14] <mecctro> For example: I particularly hate the popular frameworks in php
[12:36:46] <NCommander> I always found it ironic though exist given the fact that PHP is supposed to be a framework ina nd of itself
[12:36:58] <boru> C and assembly lanuages for a few ISAs are my bread and butter, currently, lots of Forth in my spare time. Awk and Perl for the bits in between.
[12:37:09] <boru> Verilog, too.
[12:37:13] <mecctro> 95% of it can be written lighter and simpler, tack in the constant changes between versions, and a bunch of unruly duct-tape, and you've got a nightmare.
[12:37:15] <chromas> framework-on-framework action. oh yeah.
[12:37:44] <NCommander> boru, foot myself in the shoot
[12:38:19] <NCommander> mecctro, I love Facebook forked PHP and called in Hack
[12:38:27] <mecctro> indeed, ruby was the nail in the coffin for me with web-only / web-mostly languages.
[12:38:54] <mecctro> hack / hhvm was significantly better than traditional php
[12:39:02] <NCommander> Never used Ruby
[12:39:07] <boru> my_foot shoot
[12:39:08] <boru> ok
[12:39:20] <NCommander> Brief look made me think Perl and Python had a baby
[12:39:45] <mecctro> the whole hack thing, syntactically being mostly identical was somewhat pointless, but I think they just forked it to move away from the constant version changes php typically has.
[12:39:48] <chromas> everything's on object, right?
[12:40:13] <boru> I've probably said it before, because I can't shut up about it, but I'm writing a new Forth implementation and compiler at the moment.
[12:40:20] <chromas> self.foot.shoot().clean().wrap().raise()
[12:40:24] <mecctro> wtf is Forth?
[12:40:26] <boru> Stop that!
[12:40:48] <boru> Forth is a problem oriented language.
[12:41:04] <boru> Uses RPN, stack based, etc.
[12:41:07] <mecctro> can I use your compiler now?
[12:41:25] <boru> No, but you can use any of the other hundreds of Forth implementations.
[12:42:07] <boru> You'd need an ARMv{6,7}E-M microcontroller with IEEE 1149.1 hardware to use my Forth implementation.
[12:42:13] <boru> This current one, at least.
[12:42:28] <boru> You could install gforth, though.
[12:42:38] <mecctro> is that on any board?
[12:42:51] <boru> Yeah, any board, since it deals with the core IP only.
[12:43:03] <mecctro> hm
[12:43:14] <boru> You'll need to amend your linker script, naturally, and write a UART driver, but otherwise pretty portable.
[12:43:32] <boru> I'm hoping to obviate the need for some of that when the core Forth system is more mature.
[12:43:42] <mecctro> the syntax is somewhat interesting / clear.
[12:44:12] <boru> I highly recommend reading Starting Forth by Leo Brodie, if you'd like a nice introduction to the language.
[12:44:29] <boru> And Thinking Forth by the same author is a book I think all software engineers should read, regardless of language.
[12:44:49] <mecctro> I mean, what exactly do you think this is particularly useful for?
[12:45:01] <boru> It usually takes people time to get used to stack machjines, though.
[12:45:02] <mecctro> ideal, I mean.
[12:45:15] <boru> Forth was designed for embedded systems, where C wasn't.
[12:45:25] <boru> It comes into its own in very resource limited environments.
[12:45:35] <boru> And, well, it's problem oriented.
[12:46:59] <mecctro> Is this more suited to a particular type of problem?
[12:47:12] <mecctro> it looks like it might be tedious for certain stuff
[12:47:30] <boru> Probably. Like all languages, it is suitable for some tasks, and unsuitable for others.
[12:48:21] <mecctro> interesting, I'll take a better look at it at a later time.
[12:48:43] <boru> It's a fun language to hack around with, at least. Stack machines are interesting.
[12:53:00] <mecctro> I'll definately be toying around with this after looking at some more examples.
[12:53:14] <mecctro> It's certainly it's own thing.
[12:55:19] <boru> It has interesting pedigree. Charles Moore invented it to control the radio telescopes at the NRAO.
[12:56:22] <boru> There's a saying: "When you've seen one Forth implementation... well, you've seen one Forth implementation" -- there's countless implementations because of the ease with which a basic Forth implementation can be written.
[12:56:59] <boru> I wrote a BSP based Forth once, which isn't currently online, which was great for hacking around with new boards; poking registers, observing changes on a 'scope, that sort of thing.
[12:57:38] <boru> I tend to write tethered, non-tasking implementations as my targets tend to be light on resources.
[13:02:05] <boru> Anyway, enough of my blathering.
[13:03:33] <mecctro> no no, it's terribly interesting, I'm just not familiar enough with it to really understand. It does, however, seem to be pretty simple and powerful.
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[13:07:55] <SoyGuest57254> forth has been popular in bootloaders historically
[13:08:04] <boru> I think that once you grok the stack effects of the various operators, you appreciate the elegance and simplicity of the language.
[13:08:26] <SoyGuest57254> boru: are you familiar with "The Mill" architecture?
[13:08:44] <SoyGuest57254> If not, you've got ~15 hours of youtube fun ahead of you!
[13:09:07] <boru> Yes, FreeBSD's loader(8) is written in Forth.
[13:09:14] <boru> It's vaguely familiar.
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[13:10:56] <FatPhil> Macs used to have a forth bootloader too, I'm sure, and SUN sparc machines.
[13:10:58] <boru> Yeah, I recall reading about that at some point.
[13:11:08] <FatPhil> PCs were the odd-ones out
[13:11:37] <boru> The common ancestor had a Forth bootloader, iirc.
[13:12:32] <FatPhil> yeah, I think it evolved into "open firmware", but I forget it's ancient origin
[13:13:38] <boru> Well, loader(8) is separate from that project, but yeah, OpenFW is something similar, but more ANS comformant, if memory serves me correctly.
[13:14:36] <boru> I have a project on my back burner which I hope will be controlled by my new Forth implementation.
[13:14:51] <boru> Well, two projects; a keyboard, and a GEM.
[13:37:10] <boru> Another gripe about python -- non-standard strftime implementation.
[13:37:40] <boru> Who designed this language, sheesh...
[13:43:53] <FatPhil> I have a friend learning Python presently, and I'm trying to help him even though I don't know the language (I can pick up a new language 10 times quicker than him as they're mostly so similar), and I just keep hitting retarded anti-feature after retarded anti-feature.
[13:44:14] <chromas> it's supposed to be funny
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[13:44:28] <khallow> yo
[13:45:12] <FatPhil> 'sup?
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[13:47:56] <boru> FatPhil; aye, it's a very frustrating language to use.
[14:03:21] <khallow> not much
[14:03:25] <khallow> just got back from work
[14:03:29] <khallow> tired
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[15:08:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[15:08:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2877
[15:16:21] <FatPhil> Oh, my goodness - fresh local English real ale in less (fewer) than 50 hours...
[15:16:25] <FatPhil> beer++
[15:16:25] <Bender> karma - beer: 55
[15:17:16] <FatPhil> that might even make up for the fact that I'm visiting family
[15:34:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather 74872
[15:34:32] <MrPlow> Today: Sunny to partly cloudy. High 92F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. Tomorrow: Partly cloudy skies. High 92F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph.
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[15:54:58] <boru> #submit http://www.scientificamerican.com
[15:54:58] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[15:55:03] <boru> Pft.
[15:55:16] <boru> ~submit http://www.scientificamerican.com
[15:55:20] <exec> error: description meta content not found or empty
[15:55:34] <boru> Fine, I'll submit it manually, later.
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[17:24:42] <janrinok> hi everyone
[17:48:10] <mechanicjay> Hi janrinok
[17:48:18] <janrinok> ~gday mechanicjay
[17:48:20] * exec seductively hucks a ciri of TNT at mechanicjay
[17:48:45] <janrinok> how's things with you today?
[17:49:44] <mechanicjay> Well, I just spend the last 2 hours filling out paper forms and getting them signed in triplicate, so that my program can be authorized to access some Student registration data.
[17:50:20] <mechanicjay> Note, I can already access this information and more, but I needed a new data authorization to be able to access a limited set of data in a more convenient way.
[17:50:35] <mechanicjay> I got to FAX it to Registrar's Office
[17:51:16] <mechanicjay> So, I've about had it with process and bureaucracy so far today.
[17:52:17] <janrinok> I'm not surprised - and they wonder why sometimes people take shortcuts
[17:53:31] <mechanicjay> srsly. I think I'm supposed to fill out a new form for each new program and pull a new X509 cert to be authorized.
[17:54:13] <janrinok> yep, but you are probably keeping another couple of people employed processing your paperwork...
[17:54:15] <mechanicjay> and with that I will say no more.
[17:54:26] <mechanicjay> possibly
[17:56:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Potential Schizophrenia 'Switch' Found - http://sylnt.us
[18:09:19] <cmn32480> paper???
[18:09:27] <janrinok> scissors
[18:09:54] <cmn32480> when janrinok was a kid it was stone tablets filled out in triplicate.. and God forbid you mad a mistake and had to start over!
[18:10:17] <janrinok> stone! stone?! None of that new-fangled stuff for me
[18:10:43] <cmn32480> you probably had to make you own too
[18:10:45] <janrinok> smoky handprints on cave walls was good enough for us. You young uns...
[18:10:58] <cmn32480> quarry it... or make mud anmd let it dry
[18:11:10] <cmn32480> what were the cave walls made of?
[18:11:30] <janrinok> granite, nothing but the best for us
[18:11:40] <cmn32480> so... hand prints on stone???
[18:11:57] <cmn32480> sounds easyier then chipping letters into the tablets... you big wienie!\
[18:11:58] <janrinok> not any old stone - bloody granite I tell you
[18:12:07] <cmn32480> so it was pink?
[18:12:41] <janrinok> after we finished beating our enemies over the head with it, yes it was
[18:13:20] <cmn32480> ahhhhh
[18:13:37] <janrinok> anyway, why aren't you buried in work today?
[18:13:48] <cmn32480> I am.. yes
[18:14:03] <cmn32480> though thankfully not your bloody stone tabletsa!
[18:14:41] <janrinok> family all good?
[18:15:06] <cmn32480> yeah
[18:15:13] <janrinok> and the ankle?
[18:15:15] <cmn32480> they still love me for some reason
[18:15:22] <cmn32480> hurts like I broke it
[18:15:32] <janrinok> can't imaging why - you must bring home loads of dosh
[18:15:40] <janrinok> imagine*
[18:15:48] <cmn32480> if by dosh you mean grif and misery, you woudl be correct
[18:16:00] <cmn32480> s/grif/grief/
[18:16:00] <sedctl> <cmn32480> if by dosh you mean grief and misery, you woudl be correct
[18:18:02] <janrinok> dosh is money - if you weren't sure
[18:18:27] <cmn32480> ~define dosh
[18:18:29] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03dosh: A contempory slang term used for an amount of money.
[18:18:42] <cmn32480> urban dictionary agrees w/ you
[18:18:45] <janrinok> damn, I'm contempory now!
[18:18:51] <cmn32480> so.. no I don't bering home near eenough
[18:19:02] <janrinok> haven't been that for a long time
[18:19:14] <cmn32480> nearly as long as you haven't been cool for?
[18:19:21] <janrinok> prolly
[18:19:29] <cmn32480> fair nuff
[18:19:43] <mechanicjay> oh man, I was downmodded on a comment.
[18:19:54] <janrinok> I stopped being cool when everybody started doing it
[18:20:02] <janrinok> what thread mechanicjay ?
[18:20:18] <cmn32480> we can fix that
[18:21:18] <mechanicjay> ha, no it's okay. I can take my lumps.
[18:21:46] <cmn32480> he got an overrated! on a comment at +1
[18:21:53] <janrinok> lol
[18:21:54] <cmn32480> ~nelson mechanicjay
[18:21:56] <exec> 03mechanicjay: HA! HA!
[18:22:22] <janrinok> don't understand the ~nelson command
[18:22:42] <mechanicjay> Simpsons reference
[18:22:50] <cmn32480> Nelson Muntz from the Simpsons
[18:22:58] <cmn32480> he's the school bully
[18:22:59] <janrinok> that'll be why I don't understand it then
[18:23:21] <mechanicjay> side note: I cant' believe that freakin' show is still running.
[18:23:31] <janrinok> I was thinking Admiral Nelson - but couldn't make the connection with laughing
[18:24:43] <cmn32480> 26 or 27 years now
[18:24:54] <cmn32480> started in 1988 I think
[18:25:53] <cmn32480> I thinkit is amazing that they still ahve most of the original voice talents
[18:26:02] <cmn32480> with a few notable exceptions
[18:26:48] <mechanicjay> That sounds about right, I was in 2nd grade or when they first came on.
[18:27:05] <cmn32480> 'bout right
[18:27:25] <janrinok> damn, now I _do_ feel old ...
[18:27:31] <cmn32480> why?
[18:27:39] <cmn32480> just 'cuz you have kids as old as us?
[18:27:49] <janrinok> older
[18:27:50] * cmn32480 enjoys poking the bear when he is out of reach
[18:28:33] <cmn32480> you kids are in their 40's?
[18:28:43] <janrinok> one of them is
[18:28:49] <cmn32480> let's see
[18:28:52] <cmn32480> that makes you....
[18:28:59] <janrinok> the other will be in about 6 months or so
[18:29:16] * cmn32480 carries the 1... adds in the age of dirt... subtracts the age of the sun
[18:29:16] <janrinok> ... ols
[18:29:19] <janrinok> old
[18:29:30] <cmn32480> 27!
[18:29:37] <janrinok> give or take
[18:29:44] * cmn32480 also does magic tricks!
[18:30:13] <janrinok> seriously, my pension kicks in 4 months time!
[18:30:24] * cmn32480 guesses that samking his ankle on the bedpost last night is karma for today...
[18:30:31] <cmn32480> it kicks?
[18:30:32] <janrinok> lol
[18:30:42] <cmn32480> like as in goes away 'cuz you are too old to receive it any more?
[18:30:59] <janrinok> well, with the sterling / euro exchange rate, it twitches rather than kicks
[18:31:16] <janrinok> no - my state pension starts
[18:31:25] <cmn32480> pensions at 27... no wonder Europe is going broke!
[18:32:01] <janrinok> as long as it goes broke after I've gone, I'll not complain too loudly, thank you
[18:32:57] <cmn32480> as long as Europe just goes away.. I'll not complain too loudly
[18:33:25] <janrinok> we were thinking the same about you ....
[18:33:37] <janrinok> Not the USA, just you
[18:33:51] <janrinok> :)
[18:34:04] * cmn32480 is not surprised... and frankly a littel proud to bve singled out in such a way
[18:34:26] <cmn32480> kinda like being on Nixon's "journalist enemies" list
[18:34:31] <janrinok> lol
[18:34:40] <cmn32480> it means I am doing my job!
[18:34:50] <janrinok> that's not what your boss said
[18:35:00] <cmn32480> well... not right NOW
[18:35:03] <janrinok> he said you were wasting time on IRC
[18:35:11] <cmn32480> I'm sitting here eating somethign at 2:30pm and talking to you
[18:35:19] <janrinok> much the same thing then
[18:35:21] <cmn32480> and he is correct.. if I was on his time
[18:36:07] * janrinok notes that cmn has access to some serious computing power judging by his FaH scores
[18:36:37] * cmn32480 has a single GPU that covers better than 75% of his F@H scores
[18:37:09] <cmn32480> generally about 300kppd is my GTX970 that heats my home office
[18:37:42] <janrinok> I've got a quad core with 3 cores dedicated to FaH, and I'm barely getting off the starting block
[18:37:57] <cmn32480> the GPU's are built to crunch number
[18:37:58] <cmn32480> s
[18:38:08] <janrinok> o
[18:38:09] <janrinok> k
[18:39:48] <janrinok> Its hard to justify a beefy GPU just for editing SN and upping my FaH scores, The porn doesn't seem to mind what kind of graphics I have
[18:40:20] <cmn32480> well.. HD porn might
[18:40:37] <janrinok> HD porn? Now you tell me ....
[18:41:09] <cmn32480> it's like you are right there... thankfully not in smell-o-vision
[18:41:17] <janrinok> will a gpu improve the plot?
[18:41:25] <cmn32480> um...
[18:41:37] <janrinok> I'll take that as a no then
[18:41:43] <cmn32480> porn has a plot??? Now you tell me
[18:42:08] <janrinok> apparently you have to be a plumber or TV repair man ....
[18:42:57] <cmn32480> or a pizza guy
[18:43:29] <cmn32480> or the daughter's boyfriend..
[18:43:39] <cmn32480> not that I woudl watch that kind of thing
[18:44:02] <janrinok> no, of course not, a 'friend' told you all this?
[18:44:16] <cmn32480> yep
[18:44:20] <cmn32480> his name is janrinok
[18:44:25] <cmn32480> said he was an expert
[18:44:47] <cmn32480> thought it was creepy when he told me he was gonna send home made stuff via email...
[18:45:05] <janrinok> ex as in 'has-been', spurt as in 'drip-under-pressure'
[18:45:30] <cmn32480> #soylent is no place to go into your personal old people problems
[18:45:44] <janrinok> there is nowhere else left to go
[18:45:55] <cmn32480> fair enough... problem away...
[18:46:11] <cmn32480> I'm sure tama and ciri will listen over in #
[18:46:31] <cmn32480> guaranteed snappy comebacks
[18:46:40] <janrinok> that'll be a first
[18:47:00] <cmn32480> yeah true
[18:56:22] <janrinok> well, that's MASH coming to an end, must be time for me to go ...
[18:59:03] <janrinok> until tomorrow guys
[18:59:07] <janrinok> bye
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[19:02:50] <cmn32480> zz_janrinok, sorry... I got grabbed by one of my techs that is in the field and having issues. sleep well my friend!
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[20:40:18] <SirFinkus> girls are confusing
[20:51:48] <FatPhil> girls are trivial, women are confusing
[21:05:13] <SirFinkus> a moment of silence for all the dead bots I deleted from the wiki page
[21:06:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Quantum Teleportation Achieved over Metropolitan Fiber Networks - http://sylnt.us - spooky!
[21:06:54] * cmn32480 wonders if most of those bots have been silent for a long time...
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[21:16:29] <mechanicjay> I've had a few of them in my kill file for a long time.
[21:27:09] <cmn32480> nuke them from orbit!!!!!
[21:27:15] * cmn32480 shuts down and goes home.
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[21:59:23] <boru> irssi is crashable remotely, if anyone else is using it; fixed in 0.8.20
[22:05:38] <swiss> link to report?
[22:07:28] <boru> CVE-2016-{7044,7045}, but official from the project: https://irssi.org
[22:07:55] <boru> (Mitre links at the bottom)
[22:09:21] <swiss> nice, ty
[22:09:26] <boru> Sure, you're welcome.
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