#Soylent | Logs for 2016-09-19
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[00:00:45] <mecctro> caddy has tls enabled by default
[00:01:08] <mecctro> also pretty light, not sure what all you're doing... but if it's that simple, meh.
[00:03:17] <Deucalion> newp not worth it. This is just my irc bouncer box, just stuffed nginx on there as it was convenient at the time as somewhere to put these maps. They're just tiddly ascii files. CBA with the cert maintenance crud to put them behind ssl/tls for no benefit to anyone.
[00:05:06] <mecctro> caddy sets up tls on it's own, I only mentioned it in-case it comes up again. I wouldn't want to do the https cert shuffle for something tiny / unprivate either.
[00:05:28] <Booga1> Someone might hack them. Better list the SHA hash of the files to be sure. ;)
[00:05:58] <mecctro> mim-zy
[00:06:36] <mecctro> can you imagine the effort, just to change some text
[00:06:44] * mecctro laughs wildly
[00:06:48] <Deucalion> I could go the letsencrypt route, but I CBA even with that honestly. Oh no... someone might snoop on some ascii mud maps
[00:07:07] <mecctro> snoopes gonna snoop
[00:07:47] -!- BadCoderFinger has quit [Quit: Alas, Deucalion, we knew you not well enough!]
[00:07:59] <Deucalion> I am happy for them to snoop on my carefully crafted maps... means one less thing they can snoop on elsewhere given finite resources xD
[00:08:14] <mecctro> "snoop me please sir"
[00:08:46] <mecctro> they probably knew you had ascii maps before you even thought you would have them.
[00:09:01] * Deucalion chortles at BadCoderFinger's quit message.
[00:09:09] * mecctro spooking intensifies
[00:09:55] <mecctro> I have no idea why, but chortle sounds like something that should be in a Boston accent.
[00:10:09] <mecctro> choytul
[00:13:33] <Booga1> "I choose you Chortle!"
[00:15:07] <mecctro> something like that
[00:19:16] <Deucalion> It's a Vega Strike reference and relates to my current choice of nick... surprised he remembers it
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[00:43:37] <SirFinkus> what was juggs a reference to?
[00:45:43] <Deucalion> I forget now
[00:45:57] <Deucalion> :)
[00:51:01] <Deucalion> how's things SirFinkus ?
[00:51:07] <SirFinkus> exhausted
[00:51:13] <SirFinkus> but otherwise pretty good
[00:51:35] * Deucalion passes SirFinkus a blanket and a mug of hot milk
[00:51:45] <SirFinkus> on Friday, I was moving shit for around 13 hours
[00:51:58] <SirFinkus> last night only like 4 hours
[00:52:16] <SirFinkus> and driving this http://presonus.com
[00:52:16] <dogbox> ^✓ 03StudioLive 24.4.2AI | PreSonus
[00:52:18] <Deucalion> moving house or just randomly shovelling literal poop around
[00:52:23] <SirFinkus> roadie stuff
[00:52:27] <Deucalion> ahhh
[00:52:44] <SirFinkus> we were halfway through moving studios, so we had equipment at both
[00:53:16] <SirFinkus> and drum risers that are apparently made of depleted uranium
[00:53:23] <Deucalion> lol
[00:54:36] <Deucalion> need the weight to kill the harmonics from dissipating or something.... I have no idea if that is a thing, but it seems I may have strung enough words together there to fool someone at least :)
[00:55:38] <SirFinkus> naw, they're just old as fuck, we have some new ones ordered that are much lighter
[00:56:35] <SirFinkus> we get to do it all again next weekend
[00:58:54] <Deucalion> reminds me of this... https://www.youtube.com
[00:58:55] <dogbox> ^ 03Motörhead - (We Are) The Road Crew - YouTube
[01:01:05] <Deucalion> hope you're getting paid for all that lugging stuff about :)
[01:02:28] <SirFinkus> not much now, band isn't making anything either though
[01:06:52] <Deucalion> meh, it's not really about the money, being on tour is about the journey with good friends.... the giggles along the way etc. Besides it beats the hell out of flying a desk for a living :D
[01:07:37] <SirFinkus> basically, entire band and crew gets beer, gas money, and food
[01:07:47] <SirFinkus> the level we're at
[01:08:34] <Deucalion> self sufficient then almost... got some overheads there on vehicles surely
[01:16:23] <Deucalion> k... I'm upgrading my bouncer, I'll be around as OverWatcher
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[01:17:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Unit in Japan Said to Pay $118M to Cover Underreported Tax - http://sylnt.us - again
[01:31:39] <Bytram|away> Deucalion: overwatcher? Didst you not see 'Airplane'? Oveur... OveurWatcher!
[01:31:44] <Bytram|away> ;)
[01:31:52] <Bytram|away> dishes... biab
[01:33:22] <xhedit> uid
[01:34:04] <OverWatcher> I don't recall anthing about Airplane other than a nun with a guitar and a blow up auto-pilot... unless I got my films mixed up again :)
[01:35:35] <OverWatcher> upgrade done... reboot in progress... fingers crossed....
[01:35:35] -!- Deucalion has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[01:42:09] * OverWatcher waits impatiently
[01:42:11] <Bytram|away> OverWatcher: Yep, that's the one! "Do you speak jive?"
[01:42:21] <Bytram|away> !uid
[01:42:21] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6353, owned by cpaadpro
[01:42:40] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[01:44:16] <OverWatcher> leslie nielson... I have no idea how they kept straight faces doing those films.
[01:44:40] * OverWatcher looks askance...... znc is running but not connecting
[01:45:59] <Bytram> that is quite the achievement, now that you mention it! I *literally* rolled into the aisle laughing when I saw it in theatres
[01:46:16] <Bytram> s/theatres/the theatre/
[01:46:16] <sedctl> <Bytram> that is quite the achievement, now that you mention it! I *literally* rolled into the aisle laughing when I saw it in the theatre
[01:47:00] <OverWatcher> K.. bouncer connected fine to freenode but not SN...
[01:50:48] <OverWatcher> cert acceptance issue on the wildcar it seems
[01:51:15] <Bytram> OverWatcher: that IS strange -- what's different between the two? stupid quesiton,but do you have the right port nd security settings?
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[01:51:55] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Deucalion] by Aphrodite
[01:52:27] <OverWatcher> thar we blow
[01:52:35] <Bytram> nice!
[01:53:10] <OverWatcher> Bytram: new ZNC version is more paranoid on cert checking it seems
[01:53:23] <Bytram> security++
[01:53:23] <Bender> karma - security: 0
[01:53:27] <Bytram> security++
[01:53:27] <Bender> karma - security: 1
[01:53:30] <cmn32480> is it good paranoia or bad paranoia?
[01:54:35] <Bytram> Don't tell me! I'm afraid to find out!
[01:54:55] <OverWatcher> I'd consider it good as it protects newbs from goosing themselves, easy enough to override for those that can grok wtf the errors are on about
[01:55:20] * cmn32480 whisltes a happy tune and walks away while keeping an eye on Bytram's psych profile
[01:55:32] * Bytram is psyched!
[01:55:54] * cmn32480 hands bytram an "I love me" jacket with special buckles in the back!
[01:57:39] * Bytram remembers a purple dinosaur and starts singing "I love you! You love Me!"
[01:58:00] <cmn32480> "let's get together and kill Bar-ney!
[01:58:09] <cmn32480> with the pump of a shotgun blow him out the door....
[01:58:17] <cmn32480> no more dumb ass di-no-saur!
[01:58:57] * TheMightyBuzzard prefers the "with a knife in the back and a bullet in the head, now that purple fucker's dead"
[01:59:04] <cmn32480> sorry... too soon since the dinosaur extinction?
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[01:59:28] * cmn32480 adds TMB's lyrics to his repotoire
[01:59:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> overwatcher: s/new/bew/
[01:59:39] <sedctl> <TheMightyBuzzard> <overwatcher> I'd consider it good as it protects bewbs from goosing themselves, easy enough to override for those that can grok wtf the errors are on about
[02:00:43] <Bytram> usenet newsgroup: alt.barney.dinosaur.die.die.die
[02:00:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> outstandin
[02:01:08] <cmn32480> ja wohl!
[02:01:10] <Bytram> better: news:alt.barney.dinosaur.die.die.die
[02:01:18] <Deucalion> andddd back
[02:01:32] <Bytram> and forth
[02:02:17] <cmn32480> practicing for the site ZNC upgrad Deucalion?
[02:02:54] <SirFinkus> man, my farts are pretty heinous right now
[02:04:22] * cmn32480 thanks Odin he is across the country
[02:04:49] <SirFinkus> that might not save you
[02:06:17] <cmn32480> at least that explains the lysol bombs being dropped in the Northwest
[02:07:00] <Bytram> SirFinkus: is you insist on dropping those, you could at least do it downwind from the rest of the country!
[02:07:53] <Deucalion> cmn32480, somewhat. I'd rather dry run it on my own bouncer than inflict on the SN staff bouncer.
[02:08:22] <cmn32480> Deucalion++ for thinking or the rest of us
[02:08:22] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 16
[02:09:44] * Deucalion is liking the cert pinning... that's a really really noice touch... but will cause headaches when I do the SN one
[02:10:24] <SirFinkus> there those wet feeling ones where you just let out one little pft and smell for like 5 minutes after
[02:11:51] <Deucalion> [Deucalion] is using a secure connection [ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384] - das better than my pre-upgrade spree managed :)
[02:14:46] <Bytram> try saying that whole thing, but replacing each letter in it with the word that it stands in for... Elliptic Curve Diffie...
[02:15:21] <Deucalion> cmn32480, ZNC upg for staff may wait on the overall Bery OS upgrade that mechj has on his list
[02:15:38] <cmn32480> I'm not pushing for it
[02:15:45] <cmn32480> just wondering if you were practicing
[02:16:16] <SirFinkus> I DEMAND better ZNC
[02:16:27] <SirFinkus> something that will make time pass faster for my nickname on nerdrpg
[02:16:43] <SirFinkus> Deucalion can you fix it so I win nerdrpg?
[02:16:49] <Deucalion> cmn32480, just getting ahead of the curve so to speak. Besides, I was running an out of date version.
[02:17:34] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, I know feck all about nerdrpg and do not care to know either :P
[02:17:45] <SirFinkus> you're no fun
[02:18:10] * Deucalion jiggles then tickles SirFinkus.... you know I am baby ;)
[02:18:40] * cmn32480 vomits in a trash can
[02:18:45] <Deucalion> Oh wait... that doesn't work anymore
[02:19:56] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[02:20:11] <Deucalion> ~g'night Bytram|away
[02:20:13] * exec buttmagically twerks a 5¼" floppy disk of buttmagic for Bytram|away
[02:20:29] * Bytram|away feels very tired and prepares to head off to slumberland
[02:20:39] <Deucalion> sleep well
[02:20:43] <Bytram|away> ~gnight Deucalion
[02:20:45] * exec mistakenly queefs a gift of meat at Deucalion
[02:20:47] <SirFinkus> it seems like Bytram|away only comes in irc to tell us he's about to leave
[02:20:50] <cmn32480> ~gnight Bytram|away
[02:20:51] * exec retroactively writes a fanfic featuring a flask of adhesive medical strips about Bytram|away
[02:21:12] <cmn32480> I'll handle the queue Bytram|away
[02:21:17] <Bytram|away> well, I *did* push out one story and continued editing an upcoming NC novella
[02:21:43] <SirFinkus> aye, good work
[02:21:45] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, tiredness becomes cumulative
[02:22:03] <SirFinkus> I did jack shit on the wiki today, but I'll get cracking on more tomorrow
[02:22:28] <SirFinkus> I figure if I make steady progress each day it'll eventually come together
[02:22:30] <cmn32480> ^^^ lazy
[02:22:37] <SirFinkus> inorite?
[02:22:46] * SirFinkus checks the edit list for cmn32480
[02:23:00] <cmn32480> I'm third all time.
[02:23:12] <cmn32480> behind a guy who has been here since day 1,
[02:23:14] <Deucalion> SirFinkus++ it ain't going to be fixed up in a day and no-one would expect such
[02:23:14] <Bender> karma - sirfinkus: 44
[02:23:22] <cmn32480> and bytrma who has been here since almost day 1
[02:23:24] <SirFinkus> oh, there's a leaderboard?
[02:23:39] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[02:23:39] <dogbox> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[02:24:42] <Deucalion> fuck me... I had no idea we has a HoF :D
[02:24:46] <SirFinkus> oh, thought you meant for the wiki
[02:25:04] <cmn32480> like the rest of us dind't know we had pisg charts
[02:25:28] <SirFinkus> surprised the site name story is still #2
[02:25:45] <SirFinkus> for most visited
[02:26:01] <Deucalion> cmn32480, pisg has been in the #soylent topic for like forever dude
[02:26:06] <Deucalion> bro
[02:26:10] <Deucalion> or summat
[02:26:28] <cmn32480> nu uh
[02:26:36] <cmn32480> couple months max
[02:26:40] <cmn32480> NEVER used to be there
[02:27:02] <SirFinkus> I concur with cmn32480
[02:27:22] <SirFinkus> is there a way to eliminate bots from the stats?
[02:29:08] <Deucalion> aye and before that it was subordinate to the useful links or stats link - I forget which. Anyways, it's always been linkied since I put it in place, but mebbe a click or two. Now it's just linkied directly because I canned that stick graph
[02:29:42] <SirFinkus> I liked the stick graph
[02:29:52] <SirFinkus> it helped me ship people in irc for my fan fiction
[02:31:11] <cmn32480> is not important
[02:31:15] <cmn32480> the graphs are nifty
[02:32:15] * Deucalion does not understand that the relevance of that last comment by SirFinkus... in any way.... at all. newp, NFI what dimension that relates to... shipping people... what we're building generation ships now for SN... explains where the puny budget goes I guess!
[02:32:15] <SirFinkus> I need to surpass crutchy's level of spam
[02:32:53] <cmn32480> do it on your own end of this porject... the wiki
[02:32:58] * cmn32480 cracks the whip
[02:33:22] * SirFinkus throws a grenade
[02:33:33] <SirFinkus> the grenades explodes, revealing http://tvtropes.org
[02:33:34] <dogbox> ^ 03Shipping - TV Tropes
[02:33:41] * SirFinkus runs off
[02:34:07] <Deucalion> There is no spam... only the rubbery fork you use to eat the spam... see Gaia... find an exit...
[02:36:08] <Deucalion> wait no... there is no fork... which means there is no Gaia... and in turn logically I cannot exist.... /me evaporates in an oh fuck moment of clarity :D
[02:36:15] <SirFinkus> that sounded like a challenge
[02:36:43] <cmn32480> amazing...
[02:36:53] <cmn32480> Deucalion has turned inot a being of pure energy...
[02:37:09] <cmn32480> we must study his methods and attempt to replicate them.
[02:38:16] <SirFinkus> a seductive, jiggling orb of pure plasma
[02:38:21] <Deucalion> either that or ceased to exist... I'm just checking my own status on that point... the logs are not exactly clear
[02:39:11] <Deucalion> I'm not sure rsyslog knew how to cope with a "transitioned to pure energy" event
[02:39:31] <cmn32480> becha systemd knows
[02:39:54] * Deucalion does not go there
[02:41:16] Deucalion is now known as juggs
[02:41:26] <SirFinkus> THEY'RE BACK
[02:41:26] juggs is now known as Deucalion
[02:41:29] <SirFinkus> awwww
[02:41:38] <SirFinkus> just a peek...
[02:42:15] <mecctro> juggy
[02:44:31] <Deucalion> Must be a trans-dimensional transport side effect or some such... seemed to happen when the ship accelerated past c - wonder if it will happen again at 2c :/
[02:44:59] <cmn32480> careful... you get going too fast you go Plaid
[02:47:02] * Deucalion dons black glasses... in my world baby there is no such thing as "too fast"
[02:47:41] <SirFinkus> "Deucalion seems to be sad at the moment: 2.6% lines contained sad faces. :(
[02:47:41] <SirFinkus> juggs is also a sad person, crying 2.4% of the time."
[02:47:48] <SirFinkus> ;_;
[02:54:41] <Deucalion> heh.. what can I say... always have been a glass half empty kinda guy... so shoot me now :D
[02:55:10] <cmn32480> it's hallf empty 'cuz you drank the whiskey
[02:55:12] * SirFinkus shoots Deucalion
[02:55:14] <cmn32480> fill 'er up!
[02:55:43] <SirFinkus> 🔫
[02:55:45] <SirFinkus> oh wait
[02:55:49] <SirFinkus> now it's a water gun
[02:56:07] <cmn32480> only if you are IRCing from an apple product
[02:56:16] <Deucalion> you sure it's not a bowl of petunias SirFinkus ?
[02:56:30] <SirFinkus> fairly
[02:58:26] <Deucalion> and you're not in free fall having just been created....
[02:59:11] * Deucalion may have lost the plot
[02:59:33] * cmn32480 just added Soylvertisement to this PC dictionary
[03:00:03] * cmn32480 decides to call it a night
[03:00:13] <cmn32480> ~gnight Deucalion
[03:00:13] <Deucalion> we have vertisements now? news to me
[03:00:15] * exec faithfully $action a mighty bundle of chump change $preposition Deucalion
[03:00:15] <SirFinkus> just can't keep up with the bantz
[03:00:26] <cmn32480> ~gnight SirFinkus
[03:00:28] * exec presumably ejaculates yo mama of vespene gas at SirFinkus
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[03:00:33] <SirFinkus> not very nice
[03:00:38] <cmn32480> Deucalion - we get them subbed from time to time
[03:00:45] <cmn32480> one currently in the queue
[03:00:53] <Deucalion> ~gnight cmn32480 you limpy git
[03:00:54] <cmn32480> for some mail client
[03:00:56] * exec spontaneously twerks a goblet of excitement for cmn32480
[03:01:33] <cmn32480> but my browesr keeps underlinig soylvertisement when I put it in the ed notes
[03:03:12] <Deucalion> ahh the plague of the wiggle lines.... in my mind it just screams "COMPLY" - which immediately makes me want to spel ebryting wrung just to anoy the wigly line bustards
[03:03:34] <cmn32480> somesing likke zat
[03:03:52] <Deucalion> slup wull
[03:03:53] * cmn32480 goes to bed.
[03:04:43] <Deucalion> I should eff off to bed too. Be well all
[03:14:19] <mecctro> ~gnight Deucalion
[03:14:20] * exec mistakenly irritates a drop of spitwads with Deucalion
[03:16:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Vmware Workstation's Installer Loads "Danger-Junk", So Patch It ASAP - http://sylnt.us - is-that-virtual-junk?
[03:16:53] <pinchy> its flamebait weekend
[03:17:08] <pinchy> with your host ethanol-fueled http://i.imgur.com
[05:03:08] <chromas> it's true
[05:03:13] <chromas> except for the colonization part
[05:17:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - California Police use a Robot to Take Away a Suspect's Gun - http://sylnt.us - watch-your-6
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[07:25:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Army of Dancing Robots Queue Politely to Get Their Clamps on the Iphone 7 - http://sylnt.us - robot-lives-matter
[07:40:25] <SirFinkus> https://lists.gnu.org
[07:40:26] <dogbox> ^ 03Re: [Libreboot] [gnu-prog-discuss] libreboot is not GNU Libreboot anymor
[07:40:29] <SirFinkus> the man himself speaks
[07:46:15] <SirFinkus> https://libreboot.org
[07:46:16] <SirFinkus> lel
[07:46:16] <dogbox> ^ 03Libreboot opposes the Free Software Foundation and the GNU project
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[07:51:53] <chromas> fork it!
[07:51:58] <chromas> I suggest calling it coreboot
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[09:27:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Six US States Declare Emergency after Major Gasoline Pipeline Spill; Media Almost Silent - http://sylnt.us
[09:56:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[09:56:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2872
[09:57:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Alcohol Industry Bankrolls Fight Against Legal Pot in Battle of the Buzz [Updated] - http://sylnt.us - buzzkill
[10:27:41] <cmn32480> sirfinkus - gewg_ subbed a story on that
[10:31:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[10:31:48] * exec brazenly reticulates a pocketful of activex plugins for cmn32480
[10:33:35] <mecctro> ~gday cmn32480
[10:33:37] * exec irresponsibly rubs a photograph of dongles on cmn32480
[10:34:38] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[10:40:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> mondays--
[10:40:18] <Bender> karma - mondays: -1
[10:40:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:40:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2873
[10:40:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[10:40:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[10:40:27] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 153
[10:46:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Emacs 25.1 Released [Updated] - http://sylnt.us - this-version-is-sentient
[10:48:38] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[10:48:40] * exec scientifically penetrates two fingers of boiled dog stuffed with rice with TheMightyBuzzard
[10:48:41] <cmn32480> ~gday mecctro
[10:48:43] * exec flatulantly flicks a dutch oven of windows vista at mecctro
[11:12:01] <Bytram> NCommander++
[11:12:01] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 114
[11:12:33] <mecctro> vista, how day you!
[11:14:02] <chromas> Remember when computers advertised their 64-bit greatness but only came with a 32-bit operating system?
[11:15:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> I remember when you could buy a 386 "math coprocessor" but it was actually just another 386 CPU with floating point math enabled.
[11:16:39] <chromas> #smakeadd 386SX
[11:16:39] <MrPlow> "386SX" added.
[11:17:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - HP Firmware Update Blocks Non-HP Ink Cartridges - http://sylnt.us - time-bomb
[11:19:26] <chromas> I went into a Radio shack yesterday
[11:19:30] * chromas waits for gasps
[11:19:59] <chromas> There was a kind of dirty laundry/crusty sock smell. Are they trying to invite hipsters or something?
[11:21:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> There's a Radio Shack that's still open?
[11:21:39] <chromas> I was also surprised
[11:23:43] <chromas> It had a pretty sparse layout. One whole entire scanner, a few plastic drawers with all the switches and other toys. Seems like a depressing work environment
[11:24:38] <chromas> "Ooh, a customer!" "Aw, nor purchase. This can't be my life"
[11:25:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> LOL
[11:26:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> I talked to a guy that was working in a Radio Shack probably...12 or 15 years ago. He had some sort of culinary degree. Apparently at that point they'd stopped hiring people that actually had understanding or interest in how electronics works. I suspect they never changed that policy.
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[12:21:16] <cmn32480> they quit being a store for people who knew anything 15-20 years ago
[12:21:46] <cmn32480> tried to compete with the big box store type stuff in a small store and couldn't
[12:22:30] <cmn32480> flip side was that their inventory was so old they were the only place that had certain items.
[12:22:36] <cmn32480> USB to serial converters was one.
[12:23:07] <cmn32480> this was especially important when you were on site and needed it yesterday
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[12:50:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, EF is the only person on the mod-bombs detection page. i need to step up my game.
[12:51:23] <cmn32480> how's OK TheMightyBuzzard
[12:51:31] <cmn32480> treating you... welll... OK?
[12:51:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> flight leaves tomorrow
[12:52:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoying my last allergy-free day for a while
[12:54:12] <cmn32480> how long you there for?
[12:54:33] * cmn32480 is trying to guage how long we have to really screw thigns up before you get back
[12:56:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i'll be around. parents have a desktop there so i'm just gonna set up an arch install on a vm for the duration.
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[12:58:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> also have a copy of my dev vm and ssh key n such so i can hopefully finish up my work on comments
[12:59:06] <cmn32480> ahhh
[12:59:11] <cmn32480> not taking TheMightyLaptop?
[12:59:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah. sick of dealing with its worthless ass. can't even watch youtube vids on it without overheating it.
[13:00:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotta rip the stream then watch them locally
[13:01:59] <cmn32480> gotcha
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[13:15:07] <paulej72> Morning soylent
[13:17:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gmorning paulej72
[13:20:36] <janrinok> paulej72, good afternoon to you
[13:23:53] <cmn32480> ~gday paulej72
[13:23:55] * exec democratically sodomizes a keg of moose turd pie with paulej72
[14:13:26] <cmn32480> why do people put a background on email? If I wanted to look at some stupid pattern, I would have it on my desktop
[14:13:36] <cmn32480> and frankly, all email ought to be plain text!
[14:13:42] <cmn32480> now get off my lawn!\
[14:13:45] <boru> cmn32480++
[14:13:45] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 69
[14:14:09] <boru> And none of those bloody markup languages, either!
[14:14:11] <cmn32480> thanks.. I had to get that off my chest
[14:14:25] <cmn32480> what part of PLAIN TEXT did you miss.
[14:14:55] <boru> Markup _is_ plain text.
[14:15:31] <boru> s/_is_/<b>is</b>/
[14:15:41] <boru> Oh, silly me.
[14:15:45] <boru> s/_is_/<b>is<\/b>/
[14:15:56] <boru> Feh.
[14:22:03] <cmn32480> plain text should not have markups, adjustments, anything
[14:22:30] <cmn32480> ASCII only. No emoji, the occassional smiley face :-)
[14:23:00] * cmn32480 hates RTF and HTML email
[14:23:53] <boru> Yeah, when you get base64 MIME data which exceeds the amount of textual data therein by orders of magnitude...
[14:24:16] <boru> Frankly, I hate text based protocols at all.
[14:24:22] <cmn32480> all this new fangled crap...
[14:25:10] <boru> Crap, it is. I blame the web.
[14:25:21] <boru> And web developers, shoe horning their crap technologies into everything.
[14:25:30] * boru shakes fist.
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[15:00:15] <SoyGuest22012> Markup can be implemented using plain text, but that makes some plain text unrepresentable unless you extend the markup syntax to permit you to represent the plain text that's no longer representable.
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[15:08:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> FatPhil: and don't even get me started on the shortcomings of Markdown. ghod I hate that shite.
[15:08:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> cmn32480: I agree completely on the plain-text-only-in-email thing. Anything else is not following the e-mail RFCs.
[15:31:02] <FatPhil> I don;t remember why MArkdown was so bad. None of the *actually human readable* markup schemes have been perfect, I thought markdown was one of the least bad.
[15:32:22] <FatPhil> However, I'll pull rank on your RFC comment, mail's my job - very little of email has to be plain text, almost everything can have utf-8 in it now.
[15:37:23] * FatPhil pulls up his browser window with ~50 RFC tabs open and tries to find the right ones... 5335, Sept 2008, and subsequently 6532, Feb 2012.
[15:38:25] <boru> rfc(1) is handy for that.
[15:42:13] <FatPhil> through dependencies, I presume that will be pulled in by https://packages.debian.org ?
[15:42:14] <dogbox> ^ 03Debian -- Details of package doc-rfc in jessie
[15:42:28] <FatPhil> should give that a go.
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[15:43:07] <boru> Different deps in ports, but yeah, looks about right.
[15:46:37] <boru> Actually, I'm not sure if that's the tool or just the documentation itself.
[15:51:43] <FatPhil> haven't followed all the deps to check, but it only takes 30s to undo, and I have 10 minutes before I'm going home, so let's give it a go...
[15:54:05] <boru> `rfc -s smtp` for an example of basic search.
[15:54:15] <boru> (Lists obsoletions as well)
[15:57:21] <FatPhil> this puppy looks like the tool: https://github.com
[15:57:22] <dogbox> ^ 03GitHub - jwerle/rfc: IETF RFC reader tool
[15:58:28] <boru> The BSD port lists http://www.dewn.com -- but that doesn't seem to have any NS record.
[15:58:41] <dogbox> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[15:58:46] <FatPhil> Hmmm, what I should really do is just mail all the RFCs to myself, and then use FTS to search them.
[15:59:11] <FatPhil> (my job is writing FTS, so this would be eating my own dogfood)
[15:59:16] <boru> You should just print them all out in hard copy and use PFY to search them.
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[19:17:40] <paulej72> cmn32480: I like html email mostly for the few times that I want to have a table in my email
[19:23:59] <NCommander> I just had an absolutely devious idea on how to hide things for my retromalware article
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[19:31:05] <weeds> sup legumes?
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[19:56:55] <FatPhil> are you taking the peas?
[20:13:14] <weeds> trying to come up with a synonym for lentil - not an easy task!
[20:29:04] <cmn32480> weeds - we already bean there
[20:29:51] <weeds> cmn32480, I see. I've bean away for a while.
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[20:30:18] <cmn32480> Lima get ready to shut down for the day.
[20:35:34] <cmn32480> why do people call me at 4:30
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[21:32:20] <SirFinkus> man, open source textbooks are GREAT
[21:32:29] <SirFinkus> I paid only $13 for my math book
[21:32:48] <SirFinkus> my friend had to pay $350 for his physics textbooks
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[21:37:29] <MDC> Time flies like an arrow but fruit flies like a banana.
[21:38:53] <SirFinkus> or something ike that
[21:39:20] <MDC> Hi
[21:39:28] <SirFinkus> hello
[21:39:37] <SirFinkus> how're things?
[21:39:39] <MDC> how is your day?
[21:39:50] <SirFinkus> pretty good, first day of school
[21:40:17] <MDC> what's your major?
[21:40:29] <SirFinkus> right now, I'm getting a transfer degree
[21:40:38] <SirFinkus> then I'll go to University of Washington and go for EE
[21:40:42] <SirFinkus> that's the current plan
[21:40:49] <MDC> good for you
[21:41:05] <SirFinkus> I'm very pleased that we use open source textbooks
[21:41:09] <MDC> I'd like to go back for my Physics PhD
[21:41:14] <SirFinkus> my math book only cost $13
[21:41:22] <MDC> wow
[21:41:31] <SirFinkus> my friend paid $350 for his physics textbooks
[21:43:04] <MDC> I got hassled by a security guard for singing on the street.
[21:43:16] <MDC> But I stood my ground - I had the right to sing there.
[21:43:31] <MDC> He stood there and glared at me through my entire set
[21:43:57] <SirFinkus> lol
[21:44:09] <MDC> I'm going to go back tomorrow
[21:44:23] <MDC> I don't care if no one tips me it's fun to hassle the guards
[21:44:30] <SirFinkus> I think security guards get a superiority complex
[21:44:48] <MDC> I figured that if he was in the right, he would call the police.
[21:44:50] <SirFinkus> what were you singing?
[21:44:59] <MDC> I was there about a half an hour, but no cops
[21:45:02] <SirFinkus> yeah, it's mostly threats from those types
[21:45:40] <MDC> The Star Spangled Banner, America the Beautiful, My Country 'Tis of Thee, Battle Hymn of the Republic, O Clementine
[21:45:51] <SirFinkus> ahh
[21:46:04] <SirFinkus> I've heard The Star Spangled Banner is extremely difficult to sing
[21:46:10] <MDC> It is
[21:46:19] <MDC> I don't really have the range for it yet
[21:46:45] <MDC> There are really four verses, but only the first gets sung
[21:46:54] <SirFinkus> yeah
[21:47:01] <SirFinkus> I think it's in a weird timing or something too
[21:47:11] <MDC> yes
[21:48:32] <MDC> I got up at six this morning after only four hours sleep. That's unlike me.
[21:48:41] <MDC> I think it's the new happy pills
[21:49:48] <SirFinkus> pretty much the same for me, except without the pills
[21:49:58] <SirFinkus> I need to get back to sleeping normally
[21:50:17] <MDC> do you feel sleepy? I don't. It's a very odd experience.
[21:50:30] <SirFinkus> yeah, pretty tired, gonna tough it out though
[21:50:38] <SirFinkus> with caffeine
[21:52:09] <MDC> I'm gonna go. Might be back on later today.
[21:52:29] <SirFinkus> ok, cya
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[21:52:36] <SirFinkus> don't let the guards get you down
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[23:50:07] <khallow> howdy
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[23:50:33] <Bytram> khallow: howdy! How's things been?
[23:50:55] <khallow> not bad. Only a few weeks left on my seasonal contract
[23:51:08] <Bytram> nod nod
[23:51:17] <Bytram> how's the work been?
[23:51:37] <Bytram> ~submit http://arstechnica.com
[23:51:49] <khallow> exhausting. I work nights and my sleep has been messed up longer than I can recall
[23:51:59] <khallow> thought that's not very long :)
[23:52:02] <Bytram> *ouch*
[23:52:11] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[23:52:41] <Bytram> I used to be a morning person, but working on this site 'til near midnight many a night has kindof put an end to that
[23:52:55] <Bytram> of course, I wsa up at 0500 today, so things change, yanno?
[23:53:11] <khallow> yea
[23:54:37] <Bytram> it's nice seeing you back here... how long has it been?
[23:54:52] * Bytram was editing a story at the same time... sorry for any pauses
[23:54:59] <khallow> I've been on SN for about two years I think
[23:55:14] <khallow> finally decided to see if I could contribute to development.
[23:55:25] <khallow> but it's going to have to wait till I can see daylight again
[23:55:37] <Bytram> yeah, I hear ya on that one!
[23:55:57] <Bytram> I've poked at a few thins on the site, but feel like I really need to make some time to *really* dive in
[23:56:02] <khallow> I've gotten rusty over the years
[23:56:06] <Bytram> s/thin/thing/
[23:56:06] <sedctl> <Bytram> I've poked at a few things on the site, but feel like I really need to make some time to *really* dive in
[23:56:12] <khallow> did some development in the dotcomm era
[23:56:19] * Bytram helpfully offers some oil
[23:56:20] <khallow> and been doing other stuff since
[23:56:51] <Bytram> nod nod
[23:57:01] <Bytram> i started earlier, but much the same here.
[23:57:50] <khallow> unfortunately, looks like I'll have night work again this winter
[23:57:57] <Bytram> part of the reason I've been helping out on this site is to get my fingers (and the rest of me!) back into 'the mix'
[23:57:59] <khallow> though it should be pretty low stress
[23:58:04] <Bytram> stress--
[23:58:04] <Bender> karma - stress: -1
[23:58:08] <khallow> yea,
[23:58:30] <Bytram> I've heard it said "stress is resistance to what *is*"
[23:58:42] <Bytram> brb dinner should be ready.
[23:58:55] <khallow> I should check on my laundry too