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[00:05:09] <takyon_> hey TheMightyBuzzard
[00:06:22] <takyon_> thinking of making this for my first beer: http://beersmithrecipes.com since it's about what I wanted and I have a 4 gallon pot and an airlock bucket lid for the primary now
[00:06:23] <systemd> ^ 03Big Head Irish Red - Recipe - BeerSmith Cloud
[00:06:59] <takyon_> I might have to make some substitutions for the grains, but I can get the hops and yeast
[00:07:58] <takyon_> I also want to stick it in a keg instead of bottling it, but that's a decision for later
[00:25:16] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[00:25:16] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[00:25:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds fun
[00:31:14] <Deucalion> ~weather
[00:31:16] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 61°F / 16°C, clear with periodic clouds, wind S at 7 mph, humidity 79% - Thursday partly cloudy (59°F:74°F / 15°C:23°C), Friday cloudy (63°F:72°F / 17°C:22°C), Saturday showers (52°F:70°F / 11°C:21°C), Sunday partly cloudy (59°F:71°F / 15°C:22°C)
[00:34:00] * Deucalion is liking Cinnamon's notifications options
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[00:34:20] <takyon_> don't you mean Cinnabon's deal alerts app?
[00:36:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - OSIRIS-REx Asteroid Sample Return Mission - Launch Successful - http://sylnt.us - bring-me-a-stick-of-rock
[00:40:59] * cmn32480 should go elevate his brokenness
[00:41:19] <Deucalion> ooh yeah - how's the hobbling coming along?
[00:41:32] <cmn32480> hurts
[00:41:38] <cmn32480> confirmed broken today
[00:42:00] <cmn32480> xray link above someplace
[00:42:04] <cmn32480> to imgur
[00:42:58] <cmn32480> http://imgur.com
[00:42:58] <systemd> ^✓ 03Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
[00:42:59] <cmn32480> found it
[00:43:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, figured it might be. didn't think sprains bruised up that good.
[00:43:22] <cmn32480> nope
[00:43:29] <cmn32480> nice chunk tooken right off the bone
[00:43:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, you broke your leg just by walking.
[00:44:02] <cmn32480> strap it up good and I can walk on it...
[00:44:10] * cmn32480 hangs his head in shame
[00:44:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> this does not bode well for your survival doing more advanced things like running or dancing.
[00:44:24] <cmn32480> worst part? tomorrow is the first Cub Scout pack meeting of the year
[00:44:53] <cmn32480> there will be no end of jokes at my expense
[00:44:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, roomie's kids ditched scouts this year to learn to kick people in the face.
[00:45:25] <takyon_> that sucks cmn
[00:45:41] <takyon_> you should get one of those partial exoskeletons that just fits on the leg
[00:45:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> i approve since neither of them can currently reach my face with their feet. later we may have issues.
[00:45:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon_, magic shoes?
[00:46:01] <cmn32480> yep
[00:46:11] <cmn32480> orthopedist tomorrow
[00:46:17] <cmn32480> crutches until further notice
[00:46:26] <cmn32480> jokes at my expense forever
[00:46:34] <takyon_> TheMightyBuzzard: it would go up the leg up to the knee. Some engineers designed a version for non-broken people that passively reduces the energy required to move by a few percent
[00:46:57] * cmn32480 requests the one for broken people
[00:47:20] * cmn32480 whips out the SoylentNews Credit card which immediately melts
[00:48:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> /nick crutchy
[00:48:03] <Deucalion> takyon, bones don't heal well with absolutely no load or stress put on the fracture.
[00:48:07] * chromas hereby interneally nick cmn crutchy
[00:48:38] <takyon_> that's why I said non-broken, Deucalion
[00:48:54] <Deucalion> That's a nice clean break cmn32480 - how did you manage that gain?
[00:48:58] <takyon_> although the thing I mentioned does not eliminate load (passive = no batteries)
[00:49:03] <cmn32480> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com
[00:49:09] <cmn32480> what I need to get around ^^
[00:49:31] <cmn32480> stepped in a rut... ankle rolled made big popping noise...
[00:49:37] <takyon_> need to mount a 50-cal on that, maybe some rocket engines
[00:50:23] <Deucalion> needs a 50cal
[00:50:32] <Deucalion> d'oh beaten to it
[00:50:41] <cmn32480> ninja'd
[00:52:02] <Deucalion> need moar calcium!
[00:53:03] <cmn32480> yeah.. I now have to take the doctor's report on the xrays and decipher it medical word by medical word to see what he actually said... or to see if they are just pulling my stump
[00:53:41] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[00:54:06] <Deucalion> I think the picture speaks a thousand words. Bone's broken, needs to heal, try not to displace the broken off bit so it heals soundly.
[00:54:35] <cmn32480> i agree... but he used big words that I don't understand.. and I wanna know
[00:55:26] * chromas gives cmn32480 webmd and wikipedia :D
[00:55:31] <Deucalion> ahhh the medical profession and there prediliction for Latinesque
[00:55:37] <Deucalion> their*
[00:55:53] <cmn32480> radiologist also says it looks like I broke stuff before and it healed over
[00:56:03] <cmn32480> "ossification"
[00:57:07] <Bytram> so, cmn32480 is now ossified?
[00:57:18] <cmn32480> yep...
[00:57:35] <cmn32480> but I know how to handle ossified material.. unlike some presidential candidates
[00:57:37] <chromas> cmn-os
[00:58:54] <cmn32480> basically from what I have translated, I broke the bottom part of the fibula, with minimal displacement, there is swelling (DUH????), the main ankle bone is intact, and there are signs that I have done this before, based on calcium deposits
[00:59:20] <cmn32480> and the joint has extra fluid in it at the moment...
[00:59:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should stop doing that.
[00:59:40] <cmn32480> translating?
[00:59:47] <cmn32480> or breaking my ankle?
[00:59:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> breaking that ankle
[01:00:05] <cmn32480> funny part is that I'm not aware that I have ever done it before
[01:00:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean i know everyone needs a hobby but shit...
[01:00:23] <chromas> google translate needs medicalese and lawerese languages
[01:01:23] <cmn32480> I had the exact same thouhgt!
[01:01:41] <cmn32480> brb.. gotta go hobble upstairs to kiss the kiddos
[01:07:56] <takyon_> 25 minutes later...
[01:07:58] <Bytram> cmn32480: 'hey you kids, now listen up. Either you go right to sleep with no shenanigans, or Ima gonna kick you into orbit with this here BOOT!"
[01:08:07] <Bytram> ;)
[01:08:27] <takyon_> an empty threat. he would need to lean against something to do it
[01:12:09] <cmn32480> HA
[01:15:06] <Bytram> heh. http://www.bbc.co.uk
[01:15:08] <systemd> ^ 03Galaxy Note 7: Owners advised not to use on planes - BBC News
[01:15:49] <takyon_> lol
[01:15:57] <takyon_> that's hot
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[01:17:01] <cmn32480> gets me all fired up
[01:17:54] <Bytram> would be a double-whammy if they took it on a boeing 787
[01:18:11] <takyon_> http://www.aol.com
[01:18:12] <systemd> ^ 03Kim Jong-un suspects citizens are mocking him, reportedly bans sarcasm - AOL
[01:18:17] <Bytram> (IIRC, that is the one that had trouble with its own batteries catching fire)
[01:19:07] <takyon_> ok this is breaking news as of the last 15 min: http://www.reuters.com
[01:19:08] <systemd> ^ 03North Korea earthquake believed to be nuclear test| Reuters
[01:20:31] <cmn32480> damn
[01:21:24] <takyon_> subbing now
[01:23:21] <takyon_> help usgs
[01:24:12] <takyon_> USGS even labels it as an explosion: http://earthquake.usgs.gov how kawaii is that?!
[01:24:12] <systemd> ^ 03M5.3 Explosion - 15km ENE of Sungjibaegam, North Korea
[01:24:20] <cmn32480> United States Geological Survey
[01:24:52] <takyon_> submission made
[01:25:13] <cmn32480> working it
[01:25:16] <takyon_> seems more exciting than the NEET story about to go out, want to swap it?
[01:25:21] <cmn32480> like a stripper for dollars
[01:27:04] <takyon_> http://www.politico.com
[01:27:05] <systemd> ^ 03Trump's shot at top brass rankles military circles - POLITICO
[01:27:36] <takyon_> http://www.twincities.com
[01:27:36] <systemd> ^ 03WI to pay Planned Parenthood $1.6M after abortion ruling
[01:28:07] <takyon_> http://www.huffingtonpost.com
[01:28:08] <systemd> ^ 03Are Separate Dorms A Good Or Bad Thing For Black Students? | Huffington Post
[01:28:10] <cmn32480> goes live in 11 minutes
[01:28:17] <Bytram> I'll 2nd it
[01:28:25] <Bytram> teamwork++
[01:28:25] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 27
[01:28:46] * Bytram feels like he is working in a newsroom
[01:28:50] <takyon_> one detail not noted in the summary, it's the anniversary of NK's founding
[01:29:02] <takyon_> so spake Bloomberg: http://www.bloomberg.com
[01:29:02] <systemd> ^ 03Shallow Earthquake Detected Near North Korea Nuclear Site - Bloomberg
[01:29:03] <cmn32480> bytram - please add ^^
[01:29:13] <Bytram> k
[01:29:37] <takyon_> this was in the business section... must be about to become the top top story by google news algorithm...
[01:30:08] <takyon_> the funny thing is I wouldn't have found this stuff if I wasn't looking for some other story I lost track of
[01:30:15] <takyon_> (lost all memory of)
[01:30:47] <takyon_> http://www.npr.org
[01:30:48] <systemd> ^ 03A Siberian River Has Mysteriously Turned Blood Red : The Two-Way : NPR
[01:30:57] <takyon_> http://www.chicagotribune.com
[01:30:58] <systemd> ^ 03Walgreens says it will have to unload more than 500 stores amid U.S. antitrust concerns - Chicago Tribune
[01:31:43] <takyon_> https://techcrunch.com
[01:31:43] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter now acts more like a messaging app with read receipts, typing indicators & web link previews | TechCrunch
[01:33:14] <cmn32480> all right gents.. it's been fun.. but I need to get the ankle elevated a bit
[01:33:15] <takyon_> ah, i know what it is now
[01:33:20] <cmn32480> everybody ahve a good night
[01:33:22] <takyon_> the missing article is the "cancer moonshot"
[01:33:24] <takyon_> good night
[01:34:19] <cmn32480> ~gngiht #soylent
[01:34:25] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[01:34:27] * exec analiciously bitchslaps a 5¼" floppy disk of wasabi gummy fish with #soylent
[01:39:23] <Bytram> ~gnight cmn32480
[01:39:25] * exec cohesively poops an old shoe full of orphaned inodes for cmn32480
[01:39:50] <Bytram> wasabi gummy fish? that actuals sounds kind of tasty!
[01:40:02] <Bytram> time to make dinner; biab
[01:40:04] <Bytram> afk
[01:41:51] <takyon_> Bytram leaves to make wasabi gummy fish
[01:47:27] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns expansively and heads to bed
[01:50:12] <Deucalion> ~gnight cmn32480
[01:50:13] * Bytram yawns
[01:50:13] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into Bytram's gaping mouth
[01:50:15] * exec homogeneously refactors a dumpster full of SARS for cmn32480
[01:50:18] <Bytram> yum
[01:50:24] <Bytram> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[01:50:26] * exec sexually piles a can of hamster dance on TheMightyBuzzard
[01:50:33] <Bytram> ~gnight Deucalion
[01:50:35] * exec allegedly gives birth to an F cup of windows for Deucalion
[01:50:39] <Bytram> ~gnight takyon_
[01:50:41] * exec unjustifiably pisses a ring buffer of 🕷 on takyon_
[01:50:43] <Bytram> ~gnight #Soylent
[01:50:45] * exec spontaneously planks a powerpoint presentation of null terminators for #Soylent
[01:50:49] <Deucalion> ~gnight Bytram
[01:50:51] * exec explicitly shoves an msi package of webscale in Bytram
[01:51:01] <Deucalion> sleep well
[01:51:03] <Bytram> and is time for me to call it a night.
[01:51:13] <Bytram> will do; and the same to you!
[01:51:19] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[01:56:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - North Korea Possibly Conducts Fifth Nuclear Test, Reportedly Bans Sarcasm - http://sylnt.us - someone-set-us-up-the-bomb
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[02:05:20] <chromas> Bender: s/(s)(..)(p)/\3\2\1/
[02:05:20] <sedctl> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - North Korea Possibly Conducts Fifth Nuclear Test, Reportedly Bans Sarcasm - http://sylnt.us - someone-set-up-us-the-bomb
[02:08:08] <Runaway1956> Integrated solar panels in electric cars? WTF took so long? That seems as obvious as putting wheels on the damned thing.
[02:08:36] <chromas> that makes up for the car's shadow on the solar frickin' roadways
[02:09:13] <Runaway1956> LOL - do they actually have a solar roadway anywhere yet? All I've seen is wishful thinking.
[02:17:36] <Deucalion> saw something about trials of such a thing in either Netherlands or Denmark.... think the main concerns were about longevity of panels encased in a roadway
[02:19:06] <Runaway1956> Well, if they ever make it work, it would be great. The cities probably couldn't generate enough electricity to meet their own needs, but rural America would more than cover the difference.
[02:20:08] <Runaway1956> The savings in oil would more than pay for an automotive receptacle in every parking spot on every street in America
[02:21:41] <Runaway1956> Gentoo has been insisting that I update since Monday - maybe I'll let it run tonight, expect to reboot in the morning
[02:21:46] <SirFinkus> solar panels on cars are kind of shitty, add weight and not a lot of power
[02:21:58] <SirFinkus> and expense
[02:22:14] <SirFinkus> and the solar roadways
[02:22:19] <SirFinkus> someone made a bike path
[02:22:30] <SirFinkus> it cost an absurd amount of money
[02:22:44] <Runaway1956> The latest reports on solar energy I've read suggest that they've been reduced to as much weight and bulk as a coat of paint
[02:22:48] <SirFinkus> like 6 million dollars for a 150 yard path
[02:23:06] <SirFinkus> that sounds like bullshit, unless they're talking about painting things black
[02:23:11] <Runaway1956> So, does the prototype work, or does it not work?
[02:23:20] <SirFinkus> it generates electricity
[02:23:26] <SirFinkus> if that's what you mean
[02:24:15] <Runaway1956> Hmmmm . . . I think that's the idea. They build a prototype at great expense, think about it for awhile, and build a better prototype, until they have an actual working design
[02:24:31] <Runaway1956> Of course, it may never pan out.
[02:24:53] <SirFinkus> https://www.theguardian.com
[02:24:54] <SirFinkus> lol
[02:24:54] <systemd> ^ 03World's first solar cycle lane opening in the Netherlands | Environment | The Guardian
[02:25:13] <SirFinkus> 3 million for a 70 meter BIKE PATH
[02:25:48] <SirFinkus> if they extend it to 100 meters, it will create enough electricity for 3 households
[02:26:06] <SirFinkus> it's a scam
[02:26:36] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com for more info about how bullshit solar roadways are
[02:26:37] <systemd> ^ 03EEVblog #632 - Solar Roadways Are BULLSHIT! - YouTube
[02:26:48] <SirFinkus> from an electrical engineer
[02:26:52] <SirFinkus> granted, he is australian
[02:27:01] <SirFinkus> so he might not have the greatest credibility
[02:27:46] <Deucalion> It seems a ridiculous proposition to place solar panels in a roadway given a. how rapidly solar panel tech is advancing b. how much it costs to rip up and resurface any road
[02:28:56] <Deucalion> Bolting them on frames atop any building makes a little more sense, at least they can be replaced without incurring any interruption
[02:29:22] <chromas> Rebuild all the roads so they're tilted at the sun
[02:30:05] <Deucalion> Not that they make much sense at all in Northern Europe unless you have a damn big field that's no use for anything else and wind turbines are a no go - not that wind power is much more sensible at this point
[02:32:11] <SirFinkus> I think it could make sense in most places
[02:32:19] <SirFinkus> clouds don't completely negate solar panels
[02:32:26] <SirFinkus> not the solar roadways of course
[02:32:32] <SirFinkus> those are complete bullshit
[02:33:50] <Runaway1956> You always get UV energy, no matter how cloudy it is - solar panels don't just use visible light
[02:34:57] <Runaway1956> Here's a "solar panel" that just replaces existing windows - probably not a huge gain for anyone, but it helps - http://www.azocleantech.com
[02:34:58] <systemd> ^ 03Turning Windows into Solar Panels
[02:35:12] <SirFinkus> I think they're about 60% efficient with clouds or something
[02:35:44] <Runaway1956> And, here's an article about spray paint "solar panel" - https://hub.jhu.edu
[02:35:46] <systemd> ^ 03Researcher aims to engineer spray paint that can soak up sun's elusive energy | Hub
[02:36:20] <Runaway1956> I read an article, can't find it right now, about 3D printers making paper thin panels
[02:36:25] <SirFinkus> that reeks of bullshit
[02:36:27] <SirFinkus> both of those
[02:37:00] <Runaway1956> Possibly, but then again, if we don't research, we'll never have anything
[02:37:14] <SirFinkus> I remember seeing similar stories about "paint" you'd spray on shit to capture radio waves
[02:37:26] <SirFinkus> I sent it to an EE and we had a hearty chuckle about it
[02:37:51] <Runaway1956> Why would you want to capture radio waves in a layer of paint?
[02:38:12] <SirFinkus> FREE ENERGY
[02:38:42] <Runaway1956> I will note though, that plants do photosynthesis in thin little leaves
[02:38:42] <SirFinkus> I thin it was something they were going to use on cell phones or some other utter bullshit
[02:39:09] <SirFinkus> also requires nutrients
[02:39:09] <Runaway1956> a tree might be ten feet thick, stand 100 feet tall, but all the photo stuff happens in the surfaces of the leaves
[02:39:21] <SirFinkus> not just solar energy
[02:39:33] <SirFinkus> and I suspect it's not a ton of energy
[02:40:02] <Runaway1956> mehhhh - I'm about half ready for work - better get moving
[02:40:04] <Runaway1956> see ya later
[02:40:21] <SirFinkus> like, all these news articles
[02:40:36] <SirFinkus> I believe them when I see someone else build something based on the results
[02:40:51] <SirFinkus> can't trust the people doing the initial experiments
[02:41:02] <SirFinkus> because this bullshit happens all the time
[02:41:52] <SirFinkus> my bs detector goes off whenever I see words like "quantum" or "carbon nanotubes" or "super capacitor"
[02:41:55] <SirFinkus> which are real things
[02:42:12] <SirFinkus> but 95% of the time cited as the magic that makes their bullshit work
[02:44:42] <Runaway1956> LOL, I agree that you can't take any research claim as gospel - it takes a lot of verification, then engineering, and then investment to actually build anything worthwhile
[02:45:05] <Runaway1956> but I have to applaud any serious researchers, as long as they aren't outright frauds
[02:45:31] <Runaway1956> such as the guy with the cold fusion thing - he won't allow anyone to actually investigate his damned generator
[02:46:05] * chromas gives SirFinkus quantum nanocapacitors
[02:46:24] <SirFinkus> Runaway1956: which means he's full of shit
[02:47:04] <SirFinkus> I blame the fucking tech press
[02:47:15] <Runaway1956> I think that's what I said - he looks like a fraud
[02:47:18] <Runaway1956> adios amigos
[02:47:20] <SirFinkus> oh, sorry
[02:47:48] <SirFinkus> I'm verifying the effects of ethanol on mood improvment
[02:47:55] <SirFinkus> and the results seem valid
[02:48:04] <chromas> Needs moar research
[02:48:09] <SirFinkus> agreed
[02:48:16] <chromas> Investigate further. Here's a federal grant
[02:49:49] <SirFinkus> I'm still waiting for my cell phone with a carbon nanotube battery that lasts 36 hours, charges wirelessly, and in 5 minutes
[02:53:16] <chromas> and also you can pee on it to charge it
[03:05:13] <Deucalion> I remember a story here of some farmer, had a major radio transmission tower adjacent to his land, set up a high gain antenna with transformer thingamy and was leaching power somehow off it - ran his outbuilding fluorescent lights from the output. Got caught out because he was causing something of a broadcast deadzone in a particular direction if I remember correctly. No idea if true or apocryphal.
[03:06:19] <Deucalion> Also plenty of stories of people leaching power off telephone lines back in the day
[03:08:32] <Deucalion> I believe modern exchange equipment detects such misuse these days and just shuts off the port
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[03:27:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - INDIA's GSLV-F05 Lobs Advanced Weather Satellite INSAT-3DR into Orbit - http://sylnt.us - up-up-and-away!
[03:34:44] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[03:34:44] <systemd> ^ 03Mattress company airs offensive 9/11 commercial - YouTube
[03:34:45] <SirFinkus> oh god
[03:35:14] <SirFinkus> like, it was in bad taste starting out
[03:35:22] <SirFinkus> but then when they knock over the mattresses
[03:35:26] <SirFinkus> GOLD
[03:36:09] <mecctro> lmao
[03:36:34] <mecctro> top comment: "Jet fuel can't burn the steel spring construction of a Sealy Tempurpedic mattress!"
[03:36:37] <mecctro> lol
[03:45:26] * chromas wonders how modern reCAPTCHA works
[03:45:44] <chromas> Robots can't check boxes apparently
[03:46:15] <SirFinkus> it's like, mouse movements and stuff
[03:47:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - India's GSLV-F05 Lobs Advanced Weather Satellite INSAT-3DR into Orbit - http://sylnt.us - up-up-and-away!
[03:48:08] * chromas trains robot to move mouse to checkbox and click
[03:55:44] * SirFinkus is rewatching the plinkett star wars reviews
[03:55:55] <chromas> a fine tradition
[03:56:38] <chromas> They need to redo those in HD with extra speshul effects
[03:56:51] <chromas> or maybe even reboot them
[03:57:12] <SirFinkus> allegedly plinkett is going to review the new star wars film
[03:57:14] <SirFinkus> but no sign so far
[04:01:29] <Deucalion> Does anyone else leave ridiculously effusive reviews for amazon delivered shitwinkles?
[04:05:04] <Deucalion> I just waxed lyrical about the qualities of some tie wraps..... somehow A++ just doesn't cut it when the vendor thoughtfully includes a proper invoice in the envelope. << That saves me an hour of pissing around right there.
[04:16:54] <chromas> Did it get accepted?
[04:19:44] <Deucalion> Didn't think to check. Probably did as it was pos review. Negative reviews seem to go missing for some reason :/
[04:20:44] <Deucalion> One thing I hate about Amazon... getting invoices.
[04:21:11] <chromas> DID YOU LIKE THIS X? LEAVE A REVIEW!!!
[04:21:26] <chromas> Here's some other things you should buy since you just bought stuff
[04:22:36] <chromas> We noticed you bought a TV. Here are some other TVs you should look at.
[04:23:42] <Deucalion> no.... Here's the thing you just bought and a bunch of ads for the same thing from other vendors. MyResponse "Just WHY are you pushing something I just bought? I bought it now, I have it, I do not need another for some time"
[04:24:23] <chromas> If those other vendors are so great, why weren't they suggested while I was still shopping?
[04:25:00] <Deucalion> In a sense it's reassuring that the suggestion bots are that bad at guessing :)
[04:26:46] <Deucalion> They weren't suggested at checkout time because either they were marketplace or some other reason Amazon would scrape a few pennies less.
[04:27:55] <Deucalion> Amazon = race to the bottom mentality.
[04:28:11] <chromas> internet walmart?
[04:28:29] <chromas> without the walmart scooter pilots
[04:28:40] <chromas> but I bet they sell wallmart scooters
[04:28:59] <Deucalion> dunno - never had walmart here. Although I think they may own Asda or owned it at one point
[04:31:39] <Deucalion> Only good thing about Amazon is the delivery on your door as and when. They#d be better just focusing as a logistics company as they have that absolutely nailed. I do feel sorry for their multi-drop drivers though :/ /me is conflicted
[04:34:20] * chromas goes to look that up; only finds info about a databus
[04:35:06] <chromas> is multidrop UK for delivery trucks?
[04:39:27] <Deucalion> eh, as I understand it an Amazon multidrop driver in the UK is technically self employed. They rock up at the depot, load up with parcels and go deliver them. The self employed thing is covered off in a technical fashion because they have to hire the truck / van out of their wages from Amazon. But they are not technically Amazon employees and have no employment protection. Just another disgusting loophole being exploited.
[04:40:51] <chromas> I figured they'd use companies with delivery networks like UPS and DHL
[04:41:17] * chromas learned something today
[04:42:58] <Deucalion> Same shit. Amazon outsource delivery to DPD.. then DPD engage "self-employed" people to drive the vans to do the deliveries on the same terms as above. Nothing solved, just outsourced it.
[04:43:57] <Deucalion> But then I'm a dirty socialist who thinks people deserve to be recompensed for a day's work.
[04:45:22] <Deucalion> Funny those "self-employed" drivers only drive for DPD or Amazon for their entire time at work yet are not considered employees....
[04:48:51] <Deucalion> Oh joy, it is dying wasp season it seems. Dozy motherfucking stingy bastards seem to find my place a good place to flap about, sting me then die. Can't they just skip that middle bit? Find a quiet corner and keel over without the sting bit. Bastards.
[04:56:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Planetary Smashup may have Delivered the Key Ingredients for Life - http://sylnt.us - a-story-with-impact
[05:06:40] <mecctro> Don't worry Deucalion, Amazon drivers won't need a union, they'll be replaced by robots!
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[06:00:10] <SirFinkus> lol holy shit
[06:00:15] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com I totally missed this
[06:00:16] <systemd> ^ 03[Full HD] Donald Trump Hillary Clinton Commander in Chief Forum 9/7/16 NBC September 7 2016 - YouTube
[06:00:21] <SirFinkus> I'm already cringing 30 seconds in
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[06:08:15] <SirFinkus> lol
[06:08:24] <SirFinkus> now she's an expert on email security
[06:09:32] <SirFinkus> muh headers
[06:26:30] <chromas> sound now available in potato
[06:28:13] <SirFinkus> lol cyberspace
[06:29:41] <SirFinkus> lol yes, lets just have an extrajudicial list of people who can't buy guns
[06:30:17] <julian> We can't even enforce the judicial list we already have
[06:30:27] <SirFinkus> trump's turn
[06:30:42] <SirFinkus> I'm sure I'll rage, but it should be more entertaining
[06:36:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Program Seeks to Deradicalize Jihadis and American Right Wing Extremists - http://sylnt.us - who's-targetted-next?
[06:41:44] <mecctro> It's all histerically bad.
[06:41:52] <mecctro> hysterically?
[06:41:56] <mecctro> too lazy
[06:43:53] <SirFinkus> lol trump
[06:44:02] <SirFinkus> "i'm pretty much the best, trust me"
[06:44:29] <chromas> Can't argue with that
[06:46:08] <mecctro> going down to mexico, fucking funny.
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[10:13:30] <Booga1> I thought this was a good use of Trump quotes: https://www.youtube.com
[10:16:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:16:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2850
[10:18:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> trump quotes are best printed off, bound in hardback, and used to whack users upside the head with
[10:20:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[10:20:03] <MrPlow> Today: A mix of clouds and sun. High 92F. Winds SSW at 10 to 15 mph. Tomorrow: Scattered thunderstorms. High near 85F. Winds W at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60%.
[10:22:22] <mecctro> coffee++
[10:22:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2851
[10:22:35] <mecctro> nicotine++
[10:22:35] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 135
[10:25:46] <alexbst> klatch
[10:25:49] <alexbst> qvatch
[10:33:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> still half an hour till nicotine time for me again
[10:42:53] <mecctro> sounds about right
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[10:48:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot, chromas is awake
[10:48:55] <exec> #smake chromas
[10:48:55] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a drop of snot in your twat
[10:49:18] * chromas tries out Seamonkey, notices middle-click doesn't close tabs
[10:49:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> think that's in about:config
[10:49:55] <chromas> A journal on SN reminded me of it
[10:50:12] <chromas> I don't think there's a page that just shows all journal entries
[10:50:22] <chromas> Or last 20 or so
[10:52:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> there isn't even a sub that properly does that
[10:52:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's one, and an rss feed, that shows "hot" journal entries
[10:53:02] <chromas> There's one for friends' entries
[10:53:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> which mostly works out to the same
[10:53:12] <chromas> Well, there's a page for it. Dunno if it has a sub
[10:53:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think ima rewrite that to show the most recent and hotness be damned
[10:53:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> but not today
[10:54:01] <chromas> Is hotness what the sidebar uses?
[10:54:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[10:55:29] <Booga1> interesting
[10:55:45] <Booga1> I thought the sidebar was just displaying recent journals
[10:56:15] <chromas> Me too, 'til I noticed missing takyon entries awhile ago
[10:56:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> effectively it is but once in a while it doesn't accurately reflect all entries
[10:57:04] <chromas> Does it account for new comments or somethin'?
[10:58:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, i don't remember. there's some funkiness with the cheesewhiz where someone was trying entirely too hard to be clever but i don't remember the details.
[10:58:11] <Booga1> Perhaps make it a per-user recent journal list. That way the journal list can't be spammed by a prolific user.
[10:58:57] <Booga1> Which is kinda what I thought it already was.
[11:00:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, think we're gonna switch it to a proper most recent feed but with a check to make sure they been registered a month and have karma of at least 10.
[11:00:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> to stop the occasional dickwad who registers then immediately spams via journal entry
[11:01:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> let em still post but don't show their stuff on the main page until they verified they're gonna be an active part of the community
[11:01:49] <Booga1> Heh. Well that would rule me out, I think. I've done most of my posts as AC.
[11:02:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> three subs from your account and one good comment would take care of that
[11:02:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> or some other mix
[11:03:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy's about the same. he's almost always AC
[11:03:31] * Booga1 nods. "Three karma currently. Only one submission as an actual user."
[11:04:12] <Booga1> Not that I'm sweating it. I don't have a journal entry to worry about.
[11:05:47] <crutchy> you can have my karma
[11:07:54] * chromas desires a karma sink
[11:07:55] <Booga1> I'll just chime in when I find an article/comment worth leaving a comment on. I see them fairly regularly, but I sometimes feel my opinions might be a bit off-putting for people.
[11:08:37] <mecctro> ^
[11:08:52] <mecctro> I too, am a comment pussy
[11:08:57] <chromas> That's why you create sockpuppets
[11:09:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, yeah, we need a karma sink. mine's entirely too high.
[11:09:19] <chromas> So those opinions aren't associated with the real Booga1
[11:09:47] <Booga1> Thus, the AC comments. :)
[11:10:03] <chromas> ACs don't get pinned at 50 karmas though
[11:10:32] * chromas noticed the Beck reference up the backlog
[11:10:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> reckon we should just double the karma hits for downmods?
[11:11:10] <chromas> Make karma a float
[11:11:15] <chromas> So we can get fractional
[11:11:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> was thinking make it logarithmic instead
[11:12:12] <chromas> Do that for mods
[11:12:32] <chromas> so it takes 2 people to mod from 2 to 3, then 4 to mod to 4
[11:13:19] <Booga1> I dunno. I rarely see posts hit 4/5 on most stories. Seems a bit heavy handed.
[11:13:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[11:13:31] <chromas> Better run da numbers. How many, if any, people have their karma not pinned at 50?
[11:14:34] <chromas> But see with floats, comment scores could be -1—1
[11:15:43] <Booga1> Also, with multiple votes required to move a comment from 2 to 3, the first person moderating wouldn't see an effect, thus probably feeling like the moderation selection didn't work.
[11:16:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> only 573 people have karma > 45
[11:17:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's roughly 1/10 of the userbase, so i'm inclined to say it don't need tweaking at this point.
[11:18:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> over five thousand have karma < 10
[11:18:46] <chromas> They can have some of mine
[11:19:07] <chromas> Does suscribing earn karma?
[11:19:18] <chromas> where's my spellczech?
[11:20:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, you get fuck-all except for a star and full comment history for subscribing mostly
[11:21:44] <Booga1> Paying money to enhance your karma seems counter to the idea that your participation is what matters.
[11:22:45] <Booga1> Seeing how soylentnews has kept up on it's own after the whole beta disaster is quite amazing.
[11:23:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i'm pretty happy we're still making the bills
[11:23:10] <Booga1> Adding unicode support and more...
[11:23:29] <chromas> The geocities theme needs a rotating star
[11:24:01] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard++ # unicode
[11:24:01] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 255
[11:24:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> geocities theme isn't gonna stick around. i didn't put it in github.
[11:24:19] <chromas> I hope that's not an unsigned byte there
[11:24:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't think
[11:24:31] <chromas> put it in, mister!
[11:24:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[11:24:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[11:24:45] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 136
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[11:27:38] <weeds> Live long and prosper :)
[11:28:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Effortless Studying? Creating Long-lasting Memories While Having Fun - http://sylnt.us - gotta-remember-this-one
[11:29:08] <Booga1> I have weeds in my back yard. I've gotta rip them out.
[11:29:25] <Booga1> Hopefully you're different, weeds.
[11:37:57] <weeds> Good morning Boogal, "weeds" is a nickname based on my last name. I think I am different fom weeds - especially thistles, I hate those damn things.
[11:39:19] <mecctro> you can milk my thistle any day
[11:39:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> weeds, peace and long life
[11:39:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> slightly late for trek's 50th birthday what was yesterday and we didn't run a story. we suck.
[11:40:19] <Booga1> I like thistles. The milk is so entertaining.
[11:40:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://money.cnn.com
[11:40:29] <DarthTrump> ^ 03Math is racist: How data is driving inequality - Sep. 6, 2016
[11:42:38] <mecctro> lol @ title
[11:44:09] <weeds> Nerd alert - Today is casual day so I'm wearing my communicator and captain's pips.
[11:44:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, s'why i use a white foreground in my terminals. i don't want my data getting discriminated against.
[11:44:36] <mecctro> I thought white was supposed to be in the backround these days?
[11:44:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> mecctro, das rasis
[11:45:10] <Booga1> I'm afraid my terminals are all blue backgrounds and white-ish text. :P
[11:45:59] <weeds> Wow, that story is total garbage.
[11:46:32] <mecctro> white on black baby: https://i.imgur.com
[11:46:58] <Booga1> It's CNN, which has changed from a nice source of news to the latest clickbait factory. It's really rather sad.
[11:47:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> weeds, ya, i was thinking of subbing it just so everyone could have a good rant on the state of US media.
[11:48:56] <chromas> didn't CNN become a twitter distillery?
[11:49:11] <mecctro> most of the "majors" have
[11:49:17] <mecctro> clickbait galore
[11:49:31] <weeds> "Phsics discriminates against planetary explorers." "Explorers want to travel to distant galaxies in zero time, but physics says they can't."
[11:49:41] <mecctro> The media has gotten so desperate.
[11:50:53] <chromas> "17 times less" Does she know how math works?
[11:52:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://money.cnn.com I'm not interested in the story. I'm interested in what it says about once proud CNN's current quality of journalism. Fox News: Left Division?
[11:52:11] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[11:52:36] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[11:53:33] <weeds> I admit to not reading more than 3 sentences.
[11:54:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg, i'm a little closer to getting what i'm doing to comments figured out but man the code is so not flowing.
[11:54:18] <chromas> Ted Turner is rolling in his vault of cash
[11:55:03] * chromas wonders why people rotate in graves when they're too dead to be offended
[11:55:56] <mecctro> to let the stink out?
[11:56:05] <weeds> "too dead"? Are there levels of deadness?
[11:56:29] * TheMightyBuzzard has been mostly dead all day
[11:56:48] <weeds> mostly dead is still slightly alive
[11:57:05] <mecctro> "half-full"
[11:57:11] <chromas> but he's 17 times less dead than steve jerbs
[11:57:33] <chromas> who should be rotating in his grave because of Apple's stylus
[11:57:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, screw coding. the ole gray matter is not cooperating today. ima go play vidya.
[11:57:55] <chromas> What's on the menu?
[11:58:15] <weeds> TheMightyBuzzard - or watch Princess Bride
[11:58:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> more diablo 3.
[11:58:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> weeds, bit early. think i'll save that for after lunch.
[11:59:01] <chromas> I had to play d3 a second time to get all the equipment slots filled
[11:59:19] <mecctro> I have no desire to play it a second time.
[11:59:20] <chromas> That's when it was new and loot drops were dogshit tacos
[12:00:02] <chromas> the console version is decent for "couch co-op"
[12:00:03] <mecctro> no mo bizcon fo me
[12:00:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, you play it on normal nowadays and it's a cakewalk.
[12:00:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, s'what me n the roomie do. think it's the only co-op game we have.
[12:00:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> also gotta have a co-op char for each of his kiddos.
[12:01:24] <chromas> When I played the monk I had 4 or 5 ways of constantly healing. made it kinda hard to die
[12:01:40] <chromas> using mana healed, including when using a skill that healed
[12:02:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya. you gotta go up to like torment 4 before things even start getting hard for an un-kitted-out character.
[12:03:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima go start up a hardcore character. see if i can beat the game on torment 1 like that.
[12:03:37] <chromas> There's too many difficulty levels
[12:03:56] <chromas> medium, slightly mediumer, even more mediumer
[12:04:13] * TheMightyBuzzard nods and steps off to the livingroom
[12:04:18] <chromas> see ya
[12:05:36] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:05:37] * exec clumsily pesters an attack helicopter of oil with TheMightyBuzzard
[13:01:11] <mecctro> ~gday cmdn32480
[13:01:13] * exec faithfully throws a wagon of toxic masculinity at cmdn32480
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[13:58:46] <Runaway1956> My 'stralian sheep dog ain't much of a shepard. She won't herd the cats to me.
[14:00:48] <Runaway1956> (127 = 0x7f)
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[16:04:30] <cmn32480> 6 weeks in a boot... shit
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[16:14:40] <Runaway1956> Six weeks in a boot? That's your uptime?
[16:14:56] <cmn32480> or downtime.. depending on how you look at it
[16:15:10] <Runaway1956> Oh - yeah - fractured foot
[16:15:22] <cmn32480> hehe
[16:15:37] <Runaway1956> If you get an eye put out, we'll have to name you Lucky - like that infamous dog
[16:15:56] <cmn32480> will you get me a Red Rider BB gun to help?
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[16:39:10] <Bytram> #smake cmn32480
[16:39:10] * MrPlow smakes cmn32480 upside the head with a dreidel
[16:39:34] <Runaway1956> the dreaded dreidel
[16:43:21] <Bytram> !uid
[16:43:22] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6343, owned by teslasexy
[16:55:16] <Bytram> ~nyse a
[16:55:17] <exec> 45.59
[16:55:19] <exec> http://www.google.com
[16:55:24] <Bytram> ~nyse p
[16:55:26] <exec> 13.98
[16:55:28] <exec> http://www.google.com
[16:55:29] <Bytram> ~nyse m
[16:55:32] <exec> 35.78
[16:55:34] <exec> http://www.google.com
[16:55:39] <Bytram> ~nyse t
[16:55:43] <exec> 40.12
[16:55:45] <exec> http://www.google.com
[16:55:48] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[16:55:51] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 88°F, mostly cloudy, wind W at 7 mph, humidity 57% - Friday partly cloudy (71°F:90°F), Saturday partly cloudy (70°F:75°F), Sunday scattered thunderstorms (58°F:81°F), Monday sunny (59°F:74°F)
[16:55:56] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[16:55:58] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 86°F, partly cloudy, wind SE at 4 mph, humidity 56% - Friday partly cloudy (61°F:86°F), Saturday scattered showers (64°F:71°F), Sunday scattered thunderstorms (50°F:78°F), Monday sunny (55°F:72°F)
[16:56:01] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[16:56:04] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 79°F, partly cloudy, wind W at 13 mph, humidity 65% - Friday partly cloudy (54°F:81°F), Saturday partly cloudy (63°F:77°F), Sunday scattered thunderstorms (47°F:74°F), Monday mostly sunny (53°F:71°F)
[17:02:03] <Bytram> ~submit https://www.washingtonpost.com
[17:02:38] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[17:07:45] <weeds> ~weather philadelphia
[17:07:46] <exec> 10Philadelphia, PA, USA - currently 94°F / 34°C, partly cloudy, wind W at 9 mph, humidity 45% - Friday mostly cloudy (73°F:95°F / 23°C:35°C), Saturday mostly sunny (75°F:94°F / 24°C:34°C), Sunday partly cloudy (59°F:84°F / 15°C:29°C), Monday sunny (60°F:82°F / 16°C:28°C)
[17:07:58] <weeds> I thought it was always suny
[17:19:51] <cmn32480> nope.. .jsut mostly
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[18:29:09] <Bytram|away> time for me to get ready for work -- have a great day everyone!
[19:26:16] <Deucalion> ~weather
[19:26:18] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 68°F / 20°C, clear, wind SW at 11 mph, humidity 73% - Friday partly cloudy (63°F:71°F / 17°C:22°C), Saturday rain (49°F:68°F / 9°C:20°C), Sunday mostly sunny (59°F:71°F / 15°C:22°C), Monday mostly sunny (65°F:82°F / 18°C:28°C)
[19:36:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Use Undersea Drones to Help Predict Hurricanes - http://sylnt.us - from-down-there,-things-are-looking-up
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[20:22:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://www.dailymail.co.uk
[20:22:33] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[20:22:55] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[20:22:56] * exec readily blows a flask of HP at TheMightyBuzzard
[20:22:58] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[20:23:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[20:23:48] * exec suspiciously drops a fartbox of TNT on cmn32480
[20:24:00] <cmn32480> you win... maybe?
[20:24:57] * TheMightyBuzzard waits for the earthshattering kaboom
[20:25:48] * cmn32480 squeezes out a small fart...
[20:25:53] <cmn32480> good 'nuff?
[20:25:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> on me phone, so expect high response latency
[20:26:02] <cmn32480> ahhhh
[20:26:15] <cmn32480> well I'm about to leave.. and I hadn't ~gday'd you yet today...
[20:26:29] <cmn32480> so I'll gday you again tomorrow.
[20:26:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> had to sub that story though
[20:26:42] <cmn32480> that is pretty funny
[20:26:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~title on
[20:26:47] <exec> titles enabled for 10#Soylent
[20:26:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.dailymail.co.uk
[20:26:54] <DarthTrump> ^ 03iPhone 7's new slogan translates to 'This is penis' in Cantonese | Daily Mail Online
[20:26:56] <exec> └─ 13iPhone 7's new slogan translates to 'This is penis' in Cantonese | Daily Mail Online
[20:27:04] <cmn32480> ~title off
[20:27:06] <exec> titles disabled for 10#Soylent
[20:27:16] <cmn32480> but we got to see it in multiple colors!
[20:27:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> not here. stripped.
[20:27:52] <cmn32480> your loss
[20:28:09] <cmn32480> and I don't need to know that you are naked in IRC
[20:29:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> everyone needs to know that
[20:30:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Kay, bailing so I don't gotta type with one finger
[20:30:35] <cmn32480> have fun
[20:30:39] <cmn32480> i'ma go home
[20:30:42] <cmn32480> fuck this place
[21:17:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Japan Home to 541,000 Young Recluses, Survey Finds - http://sylnt.us - get-out-of-the-basement
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[22:57:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ULA Exec: SpaceX could be Grounded for 9-12 Months - http://sylnt.us - rocket-surgery
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