#Soylent | Logs for 2016-09-08

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[00:00:07] <Deucalion> :/
[00:03:53] <SirFinkus> :/?
[00:06:10] <Deucalion> I'd have to bother to watch the vid to get the context I guess... but I'm watching something else so cba... :D Out of context it reads very oddly.... like a woman should be a toady or summat.
[00:07:55] <SirFinkus> naw, it's pretty much that, but it's funny
[00:07:58] <SirFinkus> context is 1967
[00:08:23] <SirFinkus> casual sexism is a pretty big part of the blues
[00:08:29] <SirFinkus> adds flavor
[00:09:33] <chromas> casual_sexism++
[00:09:33] <Bender> karma - casual_sexism: 1
[00:16:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mercedes Benz Partners With Matternet to Make Vans Into Drone Platforms - http://sylnt.us - automation-is-us
[00:20:28] <Deucalion> html5 video buffering sucks on a slower connection. As in it does not buffer enough, it tries to be clever and buffers a little bit when you pause - when actually the reason you paused was to allow it to buffer more than your line speed would allow to be streamed live. #1stWorldProblems
[00:22:53] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - sorry for the wild goose chase on the MIA emails... .
[00:23:10] <cmn32480> apparently I just don't pay good enough attention
[00:24:12] <Deucalion> or you're just too overloaded keeping life n soul together that some things go under the radar from time to time
[00:25:02] <cmn32480> nah... I was looking for the expiring sub emails... and completely missed it
[00:25:19] <cmn32480> but your attempt to shift blame is much appreciated!
[00:30:09] * cmn32480 yawns
[00:30:09] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into cmn32480's gaping mouth
[00:30:32] <cmn32480> I wonder if I shoudl jsut go upstairs and elevate this ankle.... wrap it loosely for the night, and relax
[00:30:42] <Deucalion> no need to appreciate it. You probably binned it in a fit of tiredness or w/e, or overlooked it in a fit of tiredness.... the detail is always in the "why". It's wrong to always assume the "why" is on you directly - although we are groomed to pressure ourselves like that.... the logic goes "something went wrong" ergo "I must be responsible"
[00:31:26] <Deucalion> sup with the ankle?
[00:31:45] <cmn32480> definetly sprained... possibly fractured
[00:32:44] <cmn32480> go to the doc tomorrow... know more around lunch time
[00:33:17] <Deucalion> elevate to reduce the swelling and stay off it til you know what's up.
[00:33:35] * Deucalion proffers cmn32480 a crutch
[00:33:51] * cmn32480 gratefully accepts
[00:34:23] <Deucalion> oh wait... a pair of crutches.... one doesn't really work
[00:34:48] <cmn32480> it can...
[00:34:52] <cmn32480> but a pair works better
[00:36:14] <Deucalion> depends if they are those under armpit crutches or the walky stick short crutches that clip to the arm.... always liked the longer version as a kid,
[00:36:14] <cmn32480> walking on it this morning convinced me that I needed to see the doc
[00:36:42] <cmn32480> I prefer the under arm kind
[00:38:12] <cmn32480> http://imgur.com
[00:38:12] <systemd> ^✓ 03My ankle shouldn't be this color.... - Album on Imgur
[00:38:42] <Deucalion> The short ones... might as well have a simple stick as I see it. But there was some medical reason for the retirement of the underarm pit crutches - probably something to do with not puttin enough weight on the broken limb to effect healing.
[00:40:47] <Deucalion> But sprain <> fracture..... so yah, needs checking out
[00:40:56] <SirFinkus> Deucalion: it's not an html 5 thing, flash videos do it too
[00:41:03] <SirFinkus> it's to save the website bandwidth
[00:42:59] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, newp. If I allow Flash... I can pause and it will buffer the entire vid at whatever res I choose. html5 vid... pause... 5 mins of pre-emptive buffer at most, then on playback it starts buffering again.
[00:43:09] <SirFinkus> on youtube?
[00:43:12] <Deucalion> aye
[00:43:23] <SirFinkus> weird
[00:43:28] <SirFinkus> never done that for me
[00:44:05] <Deucalion> I guess you don't have a shitty connection :D
[00:44:36] <SirFinkus> http://d1u4oo4rb13yy8.cloudfront.net lol spot freddy mercury
[00:44:53] <Deucalion> S'OK - 480P works OK :D
[00:46:35] <Deucalion> It would be hard to spot him given he's in the ground a while now.
[00:46:48] <SirFinkus> in the picture I mean
[00:47:00] <SirFinkus> unless you're being deliberately obtuse
[00:50:24] <Deucalion> no - I just don't click on random links in irc channels - nothing personal SirFinkus, I'm just paranoid like that at times :)
[00:50:33] <SirFinkus> fair nuff
[00:51:14] <Deucalion> still love ya though /me jiggles provocatively
[00:51:19] <Deucalion> teehee
[00:53:43] <SirFinkus> don't tempt me
[00:58:28] <cmn32480> Deucalion - you freaking tease
[01:01:17] <Deucalion> wut? Youse all get turned on by mewbs jiggling about the place? I guess it can get lonely in hotel rooms... meh... whatever far be it from me to judge others. :D
[01:09:02] <SirFinkus> firm, yet supple
[01:10:07] <SirFinkus> like a bag of sand
[01:10:47] <mecctro> seems lil less squeezable
[01:19:00] <cmn32480> meh.. anything that jiggles and looks like a bewb is enjoyable
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[01:25:06] <Gravis> the extreme and willful ignorance of republicans and democrats alike is frustrating as hell and i'm not talking about the ones in congress
[01:26:12] <cmn32480> gravis - look up a podcast called Common Sense by Dan carlin
[01:29:31] <cmn32480> I think it might speak to the statement you just made
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[01:35:10] <cmn32480> screw this... I'm going to bed.
[01:35:18] * cmn32480 checks the queue first
[01:37:00] <mecctro> ~gnight cmn32480
[01:37:01] * exec irresponsibly slides a udf volume of pyjama time to cmn32480
[01:37:16] <cmn32480> story queue is near empty...
[01:37:21] <cmn32480> .me has some work to do before bed
[01:37:41] <cmn32480> but it woudl be pyjama time
[01:39:16] <mecctro> indeed
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[01:45:45] <Runaway1956> #submit http://www.foxnews.com
[01:45:46] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[01:46:11] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[01:53:29] <Runaway1956> #submit http://newzsentinel.com
[01:53:29] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[01:54:30] * cmn32480 readies his delete button....
[01:56:19] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.rt.com
[01:56:22] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[01:56:55] <cmn32480> #submit https://www.rt.com
[01:56:56] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[01:57:01] <cmn32480> #submit https://www.rt.com
[01:57:03] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[01:57:09] <cmn32480> harumph
[01:57:34] <Runaway1956> To much trouble to do the submission manually
[01:57:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How to Raise a Genius: Lessons from a 45-year Study of Super-Smart Children - http://sylnt.us - missed-it-by-thaaaaat-much!
[01:58:32] <cmn32480> ~submit https://www.rt.com
[01:59:07] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[01:59:14] <cmn32480> stooopid bots
[01:59:41] <Runaway1956> Be nice to the bots now - they haven't been out to get fresh air since forever
[02:00:05] <cmn32480> I take exec for a walk every other week... if he needs it or not
[02:02:11] <Runaway1956> Reuters "oddly enough" has this gem
[02:02:26] <Runaway1956> http://www.reuters.com
[02:02:26] <systemd> ^ 03Seeking escape from home, Kansas man robs bank, goes straight to jail| Reuters ( http://www.reuters.com )
[02:02:34] <Runaway1956> love that URL
[02:13:25] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
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[02:13:36] <cmn32480> ~gnight mecctro
[02:13:39] * exec abnormally throws a wagon of windows at mecctro
[02:13:54] <Runaway1956> later cmn - don't self abuse your bots
[02:14:04] <cmn32480> nah... just the ankle
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[03:04:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[03:04:27] <systemd> ^ 03Steve Martin Earl Scruggs - Foggy Mountain Breakdown - YouTube
[03:04:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> had no idea steve martin could play banjo
[03:21:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fear of Contaminating Mars with Life from the Curiosity Rover - http://sylnt.us - rover-needs-a-condom
[03:22:51] <mecctro> didn't know that either buzz, and pretty well... somehow I'm not surprised either.
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[05:06:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - World Conservation Congress Debates the Gene Drive - http://sylnt.us - just-because-you-can-doesn't-mean-you-should
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[05:44:20] <SirFinkus> some keeps fucking with the knobs in the studio
[05:44:27] <SirFinkus> almost ruined practice tonight
[05:46:07] <SirFinkus> people who mess with other band's equipment without asking permission, or at the very least returning everything to the way they found it should be shot
[05:46:18] <SirFinkus> rather, drawn and quartered
[05:46:20] <SirFinkus> a bullet is too good for them
[05:46:26] <SirFinkus> maybe even boiled alive
[05:48:28] <mecctro> I had a guy "borrow" a keyboard, break it. Some people have no decency.
[05:55:17] <SirFinkus> the entire bass rig was fucked
[05:55:48] <SirFinkus> and one of the PA speakers mysteriously doesn't work anymore
[05:56:17] <SirFinkus> and the mixing board of course
[05:56:27] <mecctro> typical
[05:59:06] <SirFinkus> oh, btw, anyone who does the twitter
[05:59:10] <SirFinkus> follow chuck yeager
[05:59:12] <SirFinkus> he's the shit
[05:59:28] <mecctro> no twitter foh me
[06:01:03] <SirFinkus> he pulls no punches and is generally a crotchety old man
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[06:09:26] <SirFinkus> http://imgur.com
[06:09:26] <systemd> ^ 03Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
[06:09:28] <SirFinkus> the BANTZ
[06:09:46] <mecctro> lol
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[06:28:48] <SirFinkus> you ASS
[06:28:52] <SirFinkus> you chrome ASS
[06:29:09] * chromas polishes
[06:29:11] <chromas> bite it
[06:29:49] <SirFinkus> take me to dinner first
[06:46:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 2013 Los Angeles Airport Shooter Sentenced to Life in Prison - http://sylnt.us
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[08:25:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Authenticity of the Oldest Known Manuscript in Ancient America Verified - http://sylnt.us - forging-ahead
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[10:19:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:19:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2849
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[10:28:27] <FatPhil> I think I know why IT isn't science.
[10:28:32] <FatPhil> IT does this: https://soylentnews.org
[10:28:34] <systemd> ^ 03SN article: Douglas Crockford's Removal from the Nodevember Conference 04(127 comments)
[10:28:57] <FatPhil> Science does this: https://soylentnews.org
[10:28:58] <systemd> ^ 03SN article: Three ISS Astronauts Return to Earth 04(19 comments)
[10:29:20] * mecctro *squints*
[10:29:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, science also shits on a guy for wearing a hula shirt
[10:29:53] <FatPhil> science didn't do that
[10:30:00] <FatPhil> media did that
[10:30:13] <mecctro> IT != conference
[10:30:22] <mecctro> or, if you prefer <>
[10:30:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> thought it was a sciency chick who raised the stink
[10:31:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yer correct, IT is engineering not science. it's just very, very sloppy engineering compared to most.
[10:33:24] <FatPhil> "Raised in New Jersey (in Eagles and Phillies territory), Rachel graduated from Simon’s Rock with a degree in environmental science. While pursuing a master’s degree in science, health, and environmental reporting at NYU, she worked as a web contractor for Popular Mechanics and a print writer for Scientific American."
[10:33:28] <mecctro> depends on the type of work, I don't even know that I'd categorize all IT as engineering.
[10:34:12] <FatPhil> working in IT, and seeing some of the shit that is now under the same banner, hell no, I want to separate myself from that any way possible.
[10:34:43] <mecctro> for example, I wouldn't really say... training people to use software counts.
[10:35:06] <FatPhil> so, sciency chick is one description that could be applied, but she ain't actuallt *in* science.
[10:35:18] <mecctro> good use of a degree, what a copout...
[10:35:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on if you hit them with something heavy for not learning fast enough. that's very much engineering there.
[10:35:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, fair nuff
[10:36:09] <FatPhil> mecctro: agree, training is a different thing. I've been a lecturer historically, that's not intended to denigrate that side of things.
[10:37:42] <FatPhil> When I saw the Philae lander interview my first thought was "my god, that bloke's got hideous taste in clothing", not "women only exist to be eye-candy".
[10:37:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> now coding, that's proper engineering. it's just that us coders, by in large, are not proper engineers. we don't agonize over a gerzillion to one chance that something could fuck up, and wouldn't be allowed to if we so wanted.
[10:38:15] <mecctro> I think part of the issue is, technology is a part of everything now, as such, so is IT, so the line begins to blur.
[10:38:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i liked the shirt but then i kinda miss the 80s every now and then
[10:38:22] <FatPhil> I think most coders are bodgers. Laziness is a positive trait.
[10:38:35] <mecctro> Very florida poker night, that shirt.
[10:38:48] <mecctro> Depends on what your "coding" Buzz
[10:39:17] <FatPhil> knock yourself out: https://www.youtube.com
[10:39:18] <systemd> ^ 03Worst 80s Glam Rock - YouTube
[10:39:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, angry birds or the ladder logic on an industrial PLC... code's largely code
[10:39:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> it should all be done correctly
[10:40:23] * TheMightyBuzzard gets his jam on
[10:41:39] <Booga1> FatPhil: Laziness that's properly applied is a positive trait. Copy/pasting a link to a past document on how to do something that is vaguely related to the current task is bad(recent experience encountering that).
[10:42:18] <Booga1> I'm lazy. If I can let the computer do something for me 1200 times, I'll figure out how to make it do that.
[10:42:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[10:42:43] <systemd> ^ 03Quiet Riot - Mama Weer All Crazee Now - YouTube
[10:43:08] <FatPhil> I'm the kind of lazy that will put a day's effort into getting some tedious 2-or-3 hour job done automatically.
[10:43:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, ditto. because i might have to do it again.
[10:43:55] <mecctro> ^
[10:44:00] <Booga1> FatPhil: Right. That's the good kind of lazy. If the task comes up a second time, you're in positive productivity.
[10:44:43] <FatPhil> a third time ;-)
[10:45:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on how many hours you generally work a day
[10:45:35] <Booga1> Ten hour work days here, but we have 24/7 shifts.
[10:45:47] * TheMightyBuzzard eyes the linkCommentPages;misc;default template
[10:45:47] <FatPhil> but if the task was "find all instances of an anti-pattern in the entire code base", then that's it - done once and for ever.
[10:46:43] <Booga1> FatPhil: Until some new dev gets hired and copy/pastes the same anti-pattern into the code base.
[10:46:46] <FatPhil> Gonna ask the boss if I can open source the script I wrote for that, he'll probably say yes.
[10:47:18] <FatPhil> we're shit at review, a new instance might creep in, true - but that means we should be reviewing better.
[10:47:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> feh, ima go smoke and hopefully this shit'll make sense when i come back. cmon coffee. cmon adderall.
[10:48:46] <Booga1> Right. Code review at my previous job required no less than five sets of eyes on the check in. I've no idea what it's like at my current position, but considering a "," versus a "." broke things...I suspect it's not as rigorous.
[10:50:05] <FatPhil> I got a { goto label; /*..*/ label: } into one of our trees last week. Shame on me, but shame on the repo owner too.
[10:50:29] <FatPhil> (answer: it's missing a ';', you can only label statements, not nothings.)
[10:55:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nashville Officials Approve Ordinance to Give Google Fiber Faster Access to Utility Poles - http://sylnt.us - sharing-the-right-of-way
[11:04:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> had a friend sposed to be laying fiber for that project. he had to quit cause they kept fucking around and kept fucking around and didn't get him any work to do.
[11:07:47] <mecctro> sounds pretty shitty, what exactly is the hold-up there?
[11:10:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a clue. bureaucracy of some sort.
[11:11:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly i'm surprised nashville is allowing google fiber in. TN is pretty damned well in the pocket of the cable/telco giants everywhere else.
[11:12:55] <mecctro> welcome google, your new robot overlord.
[11:13:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept my town. we're small enough that they don't give a shit about us so we get a local cable company (serves like 3-5 towns) as a choice. it runs like 1/4 the price for comperable speed from either cable or DSL locally.
[11:15:37] <mecctro> similar situation locally, though there is fios... they've been saying they'll have it in my neighborhood for... 6 years, I think.
[11:15:44] <mecctro> 1 block away
[11:15:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> 50/5Mbps for like $70. 100/10Mbps for $80.
[11:17:21] <mecctro> somewhat similar, maybe a bit cheaper than here. On contract, it's probably around that ballpark here.
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[11:18:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh shit, they can do FTTP and don't advertise it
[11:18:34] <mecctro> Unfortunately, "business" / dedicated service is ridiculously expensive here.
[11:19:56] <mecctro> you mean google, buzz?
[11:20:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> $99/mo here looks like for their lowest symmetric up/down fiber connection.
[11:20:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, my local cable provider
[11:20:42] <mecctro> Ah, very cool
[11:21:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> wonder what the data rates are on that
[11:21:24] <mecctro> I'm sure you'll have to know now
[11:22:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed. i really need to get over there and offer them my slightly less shitty than they currently have html skillz.
[11:22:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean, does this shit look professional? http://click1.net
[11:22:49] <systemd> ^✓ 03Click1.net
[11:23:15] <mecctro> I'd have preferred plaintext to this...
[11:23:23] <mecctro> shit looks super shady... lol
[11:23:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> yarp
[11:23:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> they've been a damned fine isp so far though
[11:23:37] <mecctro> "come get in this van for internet" creepy
[11:24:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> so it's a shame their shit looks like it oughta be hosted at http://click1.geocities.com
[11:24:31] <systemd> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[11:25:12] <mecctro> lol, it really is. I weep inside when I see good businesses with horrible websites.
[11:26:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotta be outa town at the end of the month but i may hit em up n see if they wanna throw me some contract work when i get back
[11:26:51] <mecctro> I would, be a shame to let em limp on like that.
[11:28:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, wtf are the going rates for web design lately anyway? i would have charged $300-400/hr back in the late 90s.
[11:28:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i fairly suck at it.
[11:28:48] <mecctro> dynamic or static?
[11:28:54] <mecctro> details, details
[11:29:01] <mecctro> idk, what are you worth?
[11:29:03] <mecctro> xD
[11:29:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> their shit looks mostly static. some mild css trickery.
[11:29:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> they do have webmail though, that i'd likely just reskin instead of rewriting.
[11:29:51] <Booga1> Heh. Best pay I got was $600/hr.
[11:29:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> and double check for security.
[11:30:10] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[11:31:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, i'll just work up how long i figure it should take me and make a proposal out of that. i don't really care if it takes twice as long even.
[11:32:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> not like i'm otherwise gainfully employed
[11:32:23] <mecctro> honestly, it's more of a helping hand.
[11:32:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya. gotta charge em though or they don't appreciate my labor.
[11:33:43] <mecctro> working for free is a bad habit
[11:34:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, plus you get shit on like 10x as much if you don't charge
[11:36:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'partially why when i quit my first sysadmin job back around 2k and they called me back to un-pwn a server i'd been almost but not quite done with that got hacked i told em they were paying the same rates they had charged other people for my services.
[11:36:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> the other reason being: fuck them
[11:40:07] <mecctro> indeed, similar situation at my last job: Was setting up a virtualization deployment, tried explaining for over a year how to use it / fix-it. Quit, no notice (I won't go into it). Call a couple days later about how "nothing was working, could I help".
[11:40:35] <mecctro> whole entire deployment of all the servers loss their quorate status.
[11:41:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> still got bitched at cause i brought the server back into liveness, recovered their data, unhacked it, got them forensics on the guy who had hacked them, and told them now pay me. they'd been under the impression i still worked for them and would be rebuilding the server entirely but that was not our contract.
[11:41:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[11:42:33] <mecctro> I initially wanted to help, but decided I'd rather recieve nothing than disregard my morals.
[11:43:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya i quit that job with two weeks notice then took sick days the second week. fuck em, they bitched at me for not working cause they didn't know what a terminal window meant to a sysadmin.
[11:43:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> apparently they wanted me physically in the room with the server i was working on. shurg.
[11:44:40] <mecctro> I took the rest of my days off to burn out any semblence of dealing with them again.
[11:44:48] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders rewriting the linkCommentPages sub
[11:44:53] <mecctro> I had a LOT of similar "wtf" experiences there.
[11:45:03] <mecctro> "terragig"
[11:45:11] <mecctro> fuck me
[11:45:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> normally i always give and complete two weeks notice but you do not bitch people out when they're serving out their last two weeks and trying to train your noobass sysadmin.
[11:46:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday help
[11:46:05] * exec unjustifiably penetrates promises of fries with help
[11:46:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake exec
[11:46:11] * MrPlow smakes exec upside the head with a onion ring
[11:46:33] <mecctro> I would normally give notice, but the circumstances there were unacceptable.
[11:46:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smakeadd several terragigs
[11:46:50] <MrPlow> "several terragigs" added.
[11:47:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that zero notice quitting of a call center job earlier this month really went up one side of me n down the other
[11:47:45] <mecctro> The worst part is, I REALLY tried to make some sort of impact, but literally every-single thing I did was disregarded, put-down, stolen, or misunderstood.
[11:48:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> wtf kind of working conditions did they expect in a zero-skills-necessary job?
[11:48:35] <mecctro> When I left, everything I attempted to do was reversed, back to a steaming-pile of self-inflating waste.
[11:48:54] <mecctro> Indeed buzz
[11:48:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> management or idiots on team?
[11:49:16] <mecctro> Everyone, everything, everywhere, all-the-time.
[11:49:26] <mecctro> I really wish I was exagerating
[11:49:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[11:49:41] <mecctro> government
[11:49:48] <mecctro> need I say more?
[11:49:51] <mecctro> xD
[11:49:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh, roger. snafu
[11:51:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> normally i'd say if you have a problem with everyone, the real problem is you. government is quite capable of being fucked up to the last man though.
[11:51:00] <mecctro> I don't think I'll ever forget that place.
[11:51:22] <mecctro> It wasn't every person, but the majority of them might as well have just been on welfare.
[11:52:16] <mecctro> The thing that really struck me at the core was the complete disrespect and disregard for the people they were supposed to be serving.
[11:52:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah, government
[11:52:40] <mecctro> Everyone seemed to be unable to stand up-right, or complete anything without spending money.
[11:52:50] <mecctro> It was like there was no job to simple to fuck up.
[11:52:53] <mecctro> too*
[11:53:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> well aware of how that goes. was in the army.
[11:53:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[11:53:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[11:53:48] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 134
[11:53:49] <mecctro> One of the more shocking experiences I had was dealing with the state for a security issue.
[11:54:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> keep goin if you like, i'll catch the scrollback in 10
[11:54:26] <mecctro> I tried to explain to them that I had discovered a vulnerability that allowed for me to shut-down finger-printing / camera units remotely, anywhere in the state.
[11:55:15] <mecctro> I was told a callback would be recieved, which never was. After several different attempts at contacting them over the course of years, I simply gave up, and did what best I could to protect from "our-end"
[11:56:18] <mecctro> As it turns out, this is a common problem, with many different agencies / authorities
[11:57:36] <mecctro> There were many other issues, but I couldn't believe how completely withdrawn the contact was.
[11:58:00] <mecctro> You would have thought that I had said I found an eggshell in the parking lot.
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[12:02:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> probably have been more response if you'd said you found an eggshell in the parking lot - and you thought it was a spotted owl egg.
[12:03:48] <mecctro> maybe
[12:04:00] <mecctro> a, spotty answer
[12:07:25] * TheMightyBuzzard debates scrapping rehash and rewriting it for a moment
[12:07:55] <mecctro> weren't you going to work on "the linkCommentPages sub"
[12:09:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i'm basically gonna have to completely rewrite it though cause the same data does not exist for the revised threaded mode
[12:09:49] <mecctro> got a link?
[12:10:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> to the revised stuff? nah. it's all local to the vm right now.
[12:11:01] <mecctro> well shit.
[12:11:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't committed it yet cause it's a breaking change and there's already a pull request in for that branch.
[12:12:06] <mecctro> no worries, just wanted to understand wtf you were talking about.
[12:12:13] <mecctro> lol
[12:13:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://github.com
[12:13:42] <systemd> ^ 03rehash/linkCommentPages;misc;default at erectnipples · TheMightyBuzzard/rehash · GitHub
[12:13:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> the ELSIF at 44 needs completely rewritten
[12:14:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> templates, yays...
[12:14:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl n html all mixed together. gotta lurve it.
[12:14:47] <mecctro> like a bundle of blocks
[12:15:48] <mecctro> so, there is a "new" threaded mode, with additional info coming in?
[12:16:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> different info
[12:16:21] <mecctro> ah
[12:16:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> and no old threaded mode anymore
[12:16:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> both threadeds and nested all glommed together
[12:16:51] <mecctro> Sorry, I wouldn't have been around long enough to know the difference.
[12:17:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> and instead of pulling every last fucking comment and sorting them, the new method only pulls the relevant comments.
[12:18:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> and it goes by actual comments count instead of only counting top-level comments like threaded currently does.
[12:18:56] <mecctro> so, basically, comments in "tree-view", and what is a "relavent" comment?
[12:19:05] <mecctro> or, is that basically the scoring preferences
[12:19:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> so if you say you want 100 comments per page, you should get exactly as many threads as it takes to get you up to >= 100 comments
[12:20:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now you'd get 100 THREADS
[12:20:37] <mecctro> oh, so it's just brokeded
[12:21:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty much. i got a kludge in the committed erectnipples right now that divides how many comments you asked for by a divisor you choose but users shouldn't have to math to get what they want.
[12:23:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly the problem is by the time i get through all the calls necessary to reach the call to linkCommentPages, i've forgotten what data i have to work with.
[12:23:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> need to draw myself a flow chart and an outline
[12:23:57] <mecctro> I was just looking through trying to figure that out
[12:24:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, that's what I'm gonna do. but not just now. i think i'm gonna take the trash out and play some diablo 3 instead. clear the head some and start fresh in an hour or so.
[12:25:05] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:25:07] * exec sneakily flicks a cube of lima beans at TheMightyBuzzard
[12:25:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[12:25:14] * exec brazenly writes a fanfic featuring a plate of lube about cmn32480
[12:25:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> tie
[12:25:38] <cmn32480> tie
[12:25:50] <cmn32480> but you can never have too much lube
[12:27:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> true but they're roughly the same on my list of things i'd like to eat a helping of
[12:27:37] * TheMightyBuzzard skips out for an hour or so
[12:37:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Michigan Senate Considering Ditching the Requirement of a Human Driver in Self-Driving Tests - http://sylnt.us - don't-forget-the-kill-switch
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[13:50:33] <Runaway1956> ~grab cmn32480
[13:50:54] <Runaway1956> #grab cmn32480
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[13:53:37] <cmn32480> Runaway1956 - it's ! forf the quote system
[13:53:46] <cmn32480> that's a bender function
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[13:54:02] <Runaway1956> !grab cmn32480
[13:54:02] <Bender> Added quote 773
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[13:54:14] <cmn32480> ~quote 773
[13:54:19] <cmn32480> !quote 773
[13:54:19] <Bender> Quote 773 - <cmn32480> that's a bender function
[13:54:27] <Runaway1956> argghhhh - yes, I just found it in the log, but you already spoke
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[13:55:02] <cmn32480> ~nelson Runaway1956
[13:55:03] <exec> 03Runaway1956: HA! HA!
[13:55:07] <Runaway1956> You can never have to much lube though, right?
[13:55:16] <cmn32480> !grab Runaway1956
[13:55:16] <Bender> Added quote 774
[13:58:18] <Runaway1956> What a bunch of chumps - my great uncle made that "Grolier document" as a junior high school project
[14:01:45] <Runaway1956> Family values, anyone? http://kfor.com
[14:01:45] <systemd> ^ 03Oklahoma mother, daughter arrested after alleged incestuous marriage | KFOR.com
[14:04:13] <cmn32480> obviously they value family very highly....
[14:04:48] <Runaway1956> TheMightyBuzzard had the right idea, getting out of Oklahoma
[14:05:19] <Runaway1956> Scroll down that page, and you'll see a lot more of Oklahoma than you want to see
[14:08:26] <mecctro> wtf is with the smurks?
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[14:12:05] <Runaway1956> Smirks - they probably look forward to their day in court, when they can challenge the laws against incest, and some liberal judge agrees with them
[14:12:42] <Runaway1956> It's "Ha-ha, we're gonna screw over all your Judeao-Christian family values!!"
[14:16:23] <mecctro> Just seemed out of place, being that it's not funny being arrested..
[14:16:29] <mecctro> but I guess times have changed
[14:16:50] <Runaway1956> mecctro - they are from Oklahoma
[14:17:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boston Police Commissioner Orders Officers to Wear Cameras After None Volunteer - http://sylnt.us - eye-think-we-are-being-watched
[14:17:36] <Runaway1956> I know a "female" from Tulsa, who needed to get rid of her baby, so that she could run off with some druggies to get high
[14:17:50] <Runaway1956> Just dumped baby on some strange woman she bumped into at WalMart
[14:18:01] <mecctro> fucken a
[14:18:17] <Runaway1956> I can't even call her a bitch - she's not as high a life form as any of my dogs
[14:18:43] <Runaway1956> Oklahoma - I've seen all of it I ever want to see.
[14:19:12] <mecctro> I'll never understand some people.
[14:19:20] <mecctro> The older I get, the less I even want to.
[14:20:42] <Runaway1956> People can make you glad that you probably won't live past 70, 80 years old - they wear you out.
[14:23:02] <mecctro> It's fascinating how different we all are.
[14:24:24] <Runaway1956> BTW - that's what the serenity prayer is all about - https://cdn.boldomatic.com
[14:24:55] <mecctro> lol
[14:25:46] <mecctro> Who's the youngest in here?
[14:25:55] <mecctro> I gotta be near the bottom
[14:26:05] <mecctro> I think the youngest I've heard so far was 27
[14:26:19] <Runaway1956> Not sure, but CMN is a candidate for most youthful
[14:26:36] <cmn32480> I'm 36
[14:26:44] <mecctro> most vitalic mewbs?
[14:27:04] <cmn32480> ~define vitalic
[14:27:05] <Runaway1956> That makes you about the same as CMN, looks like a potential tie
[14:27:06] <exec> vitalic: unable to find definition
[14:27:28] <Runaway1956> vital italics?
[14:27:59] <mecctro> something like that
[14:28:11] <mecctro> music
[14:28:59] <Runaway1956> Pertaining to life; vital.
[14:29:19] <Runaway1956> But, life has to be in italics for it to work right
[14:31:08] <cmn32480> off to the doctor with me to get this ankle looked at
[14:31:12] <cmn32480> back later.
[14:31:14] <cmn32480> maybe
[14:31:17] <mecctro> good luck
[14:31:29] <cmn32480> thanks
[14:31:34] <Runaway1956> I can probably sell you an anke cheaper
[14:31:44] <Runaway1956> I have a couple bodies to dispose of anywah
[14:31:45] <cmn32480> likely
[14:31:58] <cmn32480> it's the transport and transplant costs that will kill me
[14:32:01] <mecctro> ankle recycling program?
[14:32:18] <mecctro> hell, why not
[14:32:24] <cmn32480> biab
[14:32:24] <Runaway1956> You bet - and I'd only sell CMN a good one - not from that skand I mentioned earlier
[14:32:37] <mecctro> no oklahoma cankles
[14:33:17] <Runaway1956> Gouda cheese - a good source of modeling clay - when the grandson sees it, he'll go nuts
[14:34:29] <Runaway1956> Wait a second - the wife is leaving to go to the doctor's office right now
[14:34:42] <Runaway1956> You don't think she and CMN are up to . . . . ???
[14:35:42] <mecctro> "oh, doctor, can you recommend a treatment for my inflated tits?"
[14:35:48] * mecctro brownchickenbrowncow
[14:37:32] <Runaway1956> Time to hit the news feeds, to find something objectionable to submit
[14:38:47] <mecctro> I will continue working on this shoddy source.
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[14:46:31] <Runaway1956> #submit http://heatst.com
[14:46:31] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[14:46:57] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[14:53:26] <janrinok> ~gday cmn32480
[14:53:27] * exec prematurely ships a Borg cube of pink taco with cmn32480
[14:53:34] <janrinok> ~gday Runaway1956
[14:53:35] * exec disturbingly irritates a buttload of chocolate chips with Runaway1956
[14:53:40] <janrinok> ~gday mecctro
[14:53:42] * exec abrasively internalizes a spoon of fencepost errors in mecctro
[14:53:48] <Runaway1956> ~gday janrinok
[14:53:51] * exec diabolically shoves a wide load of relevant whitespace in janrinok
[14:54:04] <Runaway1956> "wide load" - ha ha ha ha
[14:54:29] <janrinok> I have a program that will strip that whitespace....
[14:54:57] <Runaway1956> so, uhhh, you're prejudiced, don't want any white space?
[14:55:12] * Runaway1956 sees how you are
[14:57:13] <mecctro> white space matters
[14:57:35] <janrinok> that's me to a 't' - relevant green space, pink space, black space, outer space are all OK, but white space, ends up with a text.strip()!
[14:58:05] * Runaway1956 hides his inner space
[14:58:19] <janrinok> I don't even want to look ...
[14:58:21] * Runaway1956 also hides his inter-space
[14:58:23] <mecctro> he didn't mention brown space
[14:58:47] <janrinok> you go sort out your fencepost errors!]
[14:59:21] <Runaway1956> Heh - my fenceposts are piled in back of the house, where any rational person keeps them
[14:59:49] <Runaway1956> 8 ft treated 4x4's just lying there, waiting for an excuse to hit someone in the head
[15:10:18] <Gravis> turning life up to 11: https://soylentnews.org
[15:10:19] <systemd> ^ 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:2)
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[15:35:32] <Runaway1956> What does that even mean? "turning life up to 11"
[15:35:46] <Runaway1956> Are you smoking some bad dope again Gravis ????
[15:36:30] <CoolHand> makes perfect sense to me... reference to nigel tufnell's quote from spinal tap about turning up the amp to 11...
[15:37:17] <Runaway1956> If the amp goes to 11, why not just make it twenty-leven?
[15:38:14] <Runaway1956> But, I was waiting for Gravis reply - even if someone makes sense of his ramblings, he may still be smoking bad stuff.
[15:39:22] <Runaway1956> USPS is on the ball - they recieved my package on the 6th in City of Industry, and it's out for delivery today
[15:39:27] <Runaway1956> Whoop!
[15:39:50] <Runaway1956> More ten dollar flashlights to sell to unsuspecting chumps for $25 each
[15:40:45] <Runaway1956> Of course, various outlets sell those same flashlights for fifty dollars and more
[15:40:45] <mecctro> flesh*lights
[15:41:02] <Runaway1956> Nahhh, they flash, but they have no flesh
[15:43:30] <Runaway1956> Oh, holy fuck - Facebook goes full retard - https://www.rt.com
[15:43:35] <systemd> ^ 03Facebook cracks down on iconic Vietnam War photo over nudity, Norway goes berserk — RT News
[15:44:00] <Runaway1956> Anyone who looks at that photo and sees "nudity" needs his mind to not be washed, but flushed.
[15:44:59] <Runaway1956> Think I'll sign into Fuckbook just to post that story . . .
[15:48:08] <mecctro> good luck, you might not make it back out of the facetrix
[15:48:28] <Runaway1956> Veni, vidi, vici.
[15:49:37] <Runaway1956> At least, that's what the three Italian brothers were named in my elementary school
[15:54:22] <muxer> its so funny how facebook and twitter ushered in web 2.0 that was supposed to democratize the internet and society more broadly and they have now become the establishment
[15:56:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Another "Unsafe and Unprofessional" Intercept of a U.S. Aircraft by Russia - http://sylnt.us - because-we-were-inverted
[15:56:47] <Runaway1956> Wal-mart and Coca Cola happily step on each other's dicks - https://www.rt.com
[15:56:54] <systemd> ^ 03‘Just wrong’: Walmart Coke remember 9/11 with controversial display (IMAGES) — RT America
[15:57:13] <Runaway1956> Why don't we see these stories on MSM? *sigh*
[15:59:37] <Runaway1956> Apple releases a new phone - is that even news?
[16:01:41] <Runaway1956> ~folding-rank
[16:01:43] <exec> 07451
[16:02:06] <Runaway1956> next team to take down, 4chan
[16:15:28] <Runaway1956> Ya know, I gotta admit, that bull dyke haircut looks pretty good on Jill Stein
[16:15:39] <Runaway1956> She looks more manly than Trump or Hillary
[16:50:59] <cmn32480> woudl it confuse the hell out of millenials if I put a trigger warning sign on a safe space?
[16:52:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> some of them
[16:53:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> millenials are not a homogenous group
[16:53:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> (and I suppose it could be argued that they are less homogenous than previous "generations")
[16:56:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> You reading this? http://mashable.com
[16:56:42] <systemd> ^ 03Millennials respond excellently to #HowToConfuseAMillennial hashtag ( http://mashable.com )
[17:09:19] <Runaway1956> #submit http://www.china.org.cn
[17:09:21] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[17:09:35] <Runaway1956> MrPlow just doesn't like commies
[17:25:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla Says Autopilot System Not to Blame for Dutch Crash - http://sylnt.us - speed-kills
[17:29:26] <cmn32480> well... Netcraft and the Xrays confirm it... fractured!
[17:30:25] <cmn32480> http://imgur.com
[17:30:26] <systemd> ^ 03Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
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[20:37:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - OSIRIS-REx Asteroid Sample Return Mission Ready for Launch Today 2305 UTC / 1905 EDT - http://sylnt.us - bring-me-a-stick-of-rock
[20:50:39] <cmn32480> #youtube ring of fire
[20:50:39] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[22:02:03] <Bytram|away> whereto https://youtu.be
[22:02:05] <systemd> ^ 03NASA TV Public-Education - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[22:02:31] <Bytram|away> https://www.youtube.com
[22:02:32] <systemd> ^ 03NASA TV Public-Education - YouTube
[22:15:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - HP Enterprise to "Spin-Merge" Software Assets in $8.8 Billion Deal - http://sylnt.us - hard-cash-for-soft-ware
[23:17:48] * Deucalion shakes fist at random file system corruption
[23:40:20] <SirFinkus> apple says filesystems don't need to check file integrity
[23:40:27] <SirFinkus> and you know they're always right
[23:41:55] <Deucalion> my laptop barfed its filesystem when I powered it up today. Trashed a bunch of stuff in /usr/bin and a couple of files in my home dir. No idea what as home wasn;t mounted so all I could see was the encrypted version of the files.
[23:42:11] <Gravis> Deucalion: which fs?
[23:42:17] <Deucalion> ext4
[23:42:32] <Gravis> interesting
[23:43:22] <Deucalion> powered down cleanly the day before. most odd... it just went nutsoid when powered on today. fdisk found a whole bunch of sectors it didn;t like, but badblocks found nothing amiss.
[23:43:34] <Deucalion> I mean fsck
[23:43:49] <cmn32480> find somethign amis with this
[23:43:50] <cmn32480> http://imgur.com
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[23:44:05] <Gravis> Deucalion: disk or ssd?
[23:44:11] <SirFinkus> the skin and muscle are see through cmn32480
[23:44:15] <SirFinkus> you should get that checked out
[23:44:36] <Gravis> Deucalion: i prefer SSD because when it fails, you can still read your data
[23:44:42] <Deucalion> I just blasted the partition from /dev/zero then reinstalled the OS from scratch as I wasn;t sure what had gone missing - shit loads of stuff in lost+found after fsck ran
[23:44:51] <SirFinkus> backups?
[23:45:03] <cmn32480> thanks SirFinkus
[23:45:06] <cmn32480> good advice
[23:45:21] <Deucalion> Gravis, HDD. I though SSD basically became a paperweight when they had issues :/
[23:45:28] <SirFinkus> trust me, I'm a doctor
[23:45:46] <SirFinkus> depends on the ssd and the problem really
[23:45:51] <cmn32480> did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
[23:45:51] <Gravis> Deucalion: nope
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[23:45:58] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, of course backups are in place. Hence why at the first hint of shit I just blew the install away and reinstalled
[23:46:05] <SirFinkus> good man/woman
[23:46:11] <Gravis> Deucalion: they have error detection shit and it forces the drive into read only mode
[23:46:31] <Gravis> Deucalion: gives you a chance to grab your data and run
[23:46:32] <SirFinkus> in theory gravis, but people have tested them and a lot of them just shit the bed
[23:46:45] <SirFinkus> granted, it was a write endurance test
[23:46:49] <Deucalion> Gravis, the partition did mount up read-only once the auto fsck during boot decided it couldn;t fix it.
[23:47:30] <Gravis> Deucalion: yeah but the drive itself didn't detect the error
[23:48:11] <Gravis> Deucalion: that's the part i don't like, HDDs will go alone with partial failures like it doesn't matter
[23:48:19] <Gravis> along*
[23:48:19] <Deucalion> nothing to say that there is anything physically wrong with the drive for it to detect. Showing zero bad / reallocated sectors
[23:48:48] <Deucalion> I'm blaming a random neutrino strike at this point.
[23:49:12] <Gravis> Deucalion: that woulnd't be enough to even change one bit
[23:49:25] <Deucalion> twas a jest
[23:49:40] <Gravis> Deucalion: and yet i'm not laughing. >:(
[23:49:43] <Gravis> ;)
[23:49:50] <Gravis> anyway
[23:50:35] <Deucalion> w/e for some reason the fs pooped itself a little. Good in that it prompted me to bother doing that reinstall and tidy up I've been meaning to do forever and could never be arsed to do :D
[23:50:36] <Gravis> Deucalion: since moving to 100% SSDs, i've had no drive issues.
[23:52:08] <Gravis> Deucalion: i would say it's most likely a result of the drive but it could be an FS issue.
[23:52:46] <Gravis> Deucalion: that's why you need to start using FAT32 for everything! :D
[23:54:44] <Deucalion> ha
[23:55:02] <Deucalion> yup - I am taking it a the first sign of the drive being on the way out