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[00:15:34] <takyon_> so wikileaks has apparently released hacked DNC voicemails
[00:15:45] <takyon_> gonna check them out shortly. any good ones?
[00:19:03] <takyon_> https://twitter.com
[00:19:09] <systemd> ^ 03WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) | Twitter
[00:19:16] <takyon_> https://wikileaks.org
[00:19:18] <systemd> ^ 03WikiLeaks - Search the DNC email database
[00:19:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> shame we ain't got that nsa voice recognition software
[00:20:25] <takyon_> https://www.youtube.com
[00:20:26] <systemd> ^ 03What's in the WikiLeaks DNC Recordings - YouTube
[00:20:47] <takyon_> this ABC News video was linked from the wikileaks twitter
[00:20:55] <takyon_> says "Voicemails show former ambassadors calling DNC officials for time with Obama."
[00:21:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> well that certainly ain't good
[00:21:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause former ambassadors generally equals lobbyists
[00:33:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bezos and Tyson Join Pentagon's Innovation Advisory Board - http://sylnt.us - good-for-business
[00:34:10] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[00:34:12] * exec implicitly terrorizes a blagoblag of shitty wall with TheMightyBuzzard
[00:34:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[00:34:23] * exec theoretically farts an ntfs volume of pubes at cmn32480
[00:34:27] <cmn32480> show of hands.. who is surprised?
[00:34:39] <cmn32480> equally awful!
[00:34:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed
[00:34:46] * cmn32480 goes back to killing zombies
[00:38:01] <takyon_> yawn
[00:39:11] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[00:39:11] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[00:58:20] <takyon_> lot of consternation during the Leon Panetta speech at DNC
[00:58:38] <takyon_> seems like the Bernie crowd wants him off stage
[00:59:03] <takyon_> there were some chants of "no more war", and later some "USA" chants probably from the Hillary crowd
[00:59:33] <SirFinkus> I think I heard a "bullshit" chant when franken and silverman were on
[01:04:22] <SirFinkus> but damn, dark souls is good
[01:04:39] <SirFinkus> if they let me play dark souls in the fema camp, I'll be happy
[01:10:04] <takyon_> hahhahahahah
[01:10:57] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com this one
[01:10:57] <systemd> ^✓ 03Sarah Silverman - Full Speech Democratic Convention 2016 - July 25 - YouTube
[01:11:27] <takyon_> my hahahah was for the dark souls comment
[01:11:34] <takyon_> I might check that out later. Biden just came on
[01:11:37] <SirFinkus> oh
[01:11:49] <takyon_> *dank souls
[01:12:28] <Gravis> takyon_: the divides in the parties seem to be deep enough that it's plausible to get new political parties out of it
[01:12:42] <takyon_> let's hope so
[01:12:43] <Gravis> takyon_: at least the divide from voters
[01:12:54] <takyon_> but it seems like the Republican party is the one closest to splitting apart
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[01:13:08] <SirFinkus> at around 8:15 in the video
[01:13:17] <SirFinkus> but the rest is great too
[01:13:21] <takyon_> because of divisions between the religious, libertarians, and nationalists
[01:13:31] <SirFinkus> fuck em both
[01:13:42] <SirFinkus> but really, it's going to be 2 parties as long as we have this system
[01:13:51] <SirFinkus> just how shit like this works
[01:13:55] <Gravis> takyon_: are you sure? it seemed like the bernie backers rather see the nation burn than go with the status quo
[01:14:22] <takyon_> we should abolish the presidency and set up a prime minister
[01:14:42] <takyon_> nah the polling doesn't bare that out, gravis. Bernie supporters will vote for Hillary
[01:14:51] <Gravis> SirFinkus: yeah, but the system may not survive much longer
[01:15:08] <takyon_> plus you don't see the Democratic equivalent of Ted Cruz refusing to endorse Trump on stage
[01:15:13] <SirFinkus> I'm not optimistic (pessimistic?" about that
[01:15:30] <SirFinkus> bernie's endorsement seemed backhanded
[01:15:47] <SirFinkus> I might be crazy
[01:15:54] <takyon_> there's no doubt about that
[01:15:56] <Runaway1956> #submit http://www.cnn.com
[01:15:56] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[01:16:13] <takyon_> well, he's repeatedly said that "we got the most liberal platform in history"
[01:16:17] <SirFinkus> but him complaining about political oligarchies felt like it was dripping with sarcasm
[01:16:20] <takyon_> he was backhanded about the VP choice though
[01:16:21] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[01:16:42] <Gravis> SirFinkus: so what do you think would happen if after the election bernie suddenly declared he was starting a political party? do you think people would jump on board or stick to the democrats?
[01:16:51] <SirFinkus> I wonder how many awkward pokemon go jokes they've mad
[01:16:58] <SirFinkus> some would
[01:17:13] <SirFinkus> he'd get like 10% of the vote or something, probably rob the election from hillary
[01:17:21] <takyon_> Gravis: Bernie has already conceded and endorsed Hillary. In light of that, it wouldn't work at all.
[01:17:22] <Gravis> SirFinkus: believe it or not, if you ask for $100 and millions pay, you got yourself a warchest
[01:17:25] <SirFinkus> but then business as usual next cycle
[01:17:52] <SirFinkus> so we have the democrats divided into 2 pieces, and most republicans voting for trump
[01:17:55] <SirFinkus> trump wins
[01:18:03] <SirFinkus> and next cycle, the dems consolidate
[01:18:16] <SirFinkus> it's pretty stable when there are 2 parties
[01:18:37] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.bloomberg.com
[01:18:39] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[01:19:04] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[01:20:14] <SirFinkus> hillary clinton looks like a fucking ventriloquit dummy with those jowels and her chin
[01:20:31] <SirFinkus> http://www.trbimg.com
[01:21:55] <SirFinkus> http://i2.cdn.turner.com
[01:22:12] <SirFinkus> http://www.telegraph.co.uk
[01:23:39] <SirFinkus> you half expect her to be sitting on bill's lap during speeches while he drinks a glass of water
[01:26:58] <Gravis> takyon_: i'm talking about what could happen /after/ the election
[01:27:11] <Gravis> takyon_: building a new political party
[01:28:35] <Runaway1956> FBI is under fire, along with the entire DOJ - first the Boston bombers, then Mateen - lawmakers want to know "WTF?"
[01:28:48] <Runaway1956> http://www.foxnews.com
[01:28:48] <systemd> ^ 03DOJ pressed on decision to drop Orlando gunman from terror list | Fox News
[01:28:48] <Gravis> SirFinkus: that's called growing old. it's not something you can do anything about with our current technology
[01:29:04] <SirFinkus> no, it's called a joke
[01:29:40] <Runaway1956> After the election? If the R's win, we're kinda screwed, if the D's win we're really screwed
[01:29:42] <Gravis> SirFinkus: not if you don't add a smiley
[01:29:57] <SirFinkus> and the way her cheeks meet her jaw looks like a ventriloquist dummy's, more than any other old person I've seen
[01:30:31] <Gravis> SirFinkus: way to take the high road. ;)
[01:30:49] <Runaway1956> unless Greens and LIbertarians get ~20% of the vote - that would put a damper on the after election craziness
[01:31:18] <SirFinkus> I think maybe 5% combined
[01:31:35] <SirFinkus> probably more dems than republicans
[01:31:38] <Gravis> Runaway1956: hillary will just be more of the same. donald... i have no idea what he would do and the fallout from that could be monumental
[01:32:24] <Runaway1956> Hillary more of the same? Except, she'll accelerate selling military tech to third world countries
[01:32:38] <Runaway1956> she'll sell directly to ISIS/ISIL/DAESH
[01:32:48] <SirFinkus> I'll vote for whichever one seems to be more popular, since they pretty much agree on all the issues I care about the most
[01:32:52] <Runaway1956> And, North Korea
[01:32:53] <Gravis> Runaway1956: have you been watching fox news? ;P
[01:33:04] <SirFinkus> green and libertarians I mean
[01:33:23] * cmn32480 goes back killing (and being killed by) zombies
[01:33:28] <Runaway1956> No, Gravis, I've been sitting in a closet for the last two years
[01:33:40] <SirFinkus> !grab Runaway1956
[01:33:40] <Bender> Added quote 756
[01:34:13] <Runaway1956> Heh, #evilFinkus
[01:34:16] <SirFinkus> crazy idea
[01:34:18] <SirFinkus> I know
[01:34:22] <SirFinkus> completely insane
[01:34:23] <Gravis> Runaway1956: with fox news channel blaring on your portable CRT tv and a wire running out to the hallway?
[01:34:24] <SirFinkus> how about
[01:34:25] <SirFinkus> we just
[01:34:32] <SirFinkus> and please, just a hypothetical
[01:34:37] <SirFinkus> don't sell weapons to anyone?
[01:34:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Americans Broadly Oppose Biomedical Enhancements and Gene Editing - http://sylnt.us - as-god-intended
[01:34:44] <SirFinkus> like
[01:34:50] <SirFinkus> imagine this crazy scenario
[01:35:07] <SirFinkus> if for some reasone we as a country feel like we need to be involved in a conflict
[01:35:11] <Runaway1956> SirFinkus - Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex, but we didn't listen
[01:35:22] <Runaway1956> they are going to sell weapons because it is profitable
[01:35:40] <SirFinkus> how about we have our soldiers use the weapons instead of selling them to rebel groups that will use them against us in 10 years?
[01:36:08] <SirFinkus> idk, maybe I'm crazy
[01:36:31] <Runaway1956> Who remembers this spectacular murder? http://www.foxnews.com
[01:36:32] <systemd> ^ 03Anger builds after condemned Connecticut home invasion killers are resentenced | Fox News
[01:36:43] <Runaway1956> Rat bastards shouldn't have made it to trial
[01:39:13] <SirFinkus> good, death penalty is garbage
[01:43:00] <Runaway1956> Another clueless idiot gets arrested
[01:43:09] <Runaway1956> #submit http://detroit.cbslocal.com
[01:43:11] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[01:43:36] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[01:43:37] <Runaway1956> I'm going on a crime spree, and I'm gonna post every bit of it on Facebook
[01:44:44] <Gravis> fucking lack of comment editing
[01:45:11] <Gravis> Runaway1956: better live-stream it
[01:45:45] * Runaway1956 wonders what the statute of limitations is on fleeing police
[01:46:22] <Runaway1956> Is it safe to post on Facebook that I beat the cops in a high speed chase in 1979, 1983, 1986, etc?
[01:46:23] <Gravis> Runaway1956: it's exactly as long as you aren't caught
[01:47:25] <SirFinkus> ""The richest thing about Donald Trump is his hypocrisy." —@MikeBloomberg " wow, what a zinger
[01:47:45] <Gravis> ha!
[01:48:10] <SirFinkus> he should have spelled it drumpf, that would have been even more clever
[01:49:10] <Runaway1956> Hmmmm - the censorship story on China doesn't show up - maybe I need to use a different source
[01:49:19] <Gravis> Runaway1956: you are right that the military industrial complex needs to be shutdown though i think it's mostly because it costs a shitload of money
[01:49:50] <Runaway1956> which is more valuable, Gravis - the money or the lives?
[01:50:05] <Runaway1956> How many people are dead, because we have to sell arms all over the world?
[01:50:21] <Gravis> Runaway1956: plenty, i'm sure
[01:51:09] <Runaway1956> #submit http://www.bbc.com
[01:51:11] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[01:51:17] <Gravis> i don't want people to die either
[01:51:36] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[01:51:42] <Gravis> it should be noted that china has gotten into the cheap gun business and is selling to anyone that can pay
[01:52:11] <Runaway1956> Of course - selling guns makes you powerful, so China wants in on the act
[01:52:24] <takyon_> Runaway1956, we already have that: https://soylentnews.org
[01:52:25] <systemd> ^ 03SN article: China Clamps Down on Online News Reporting 04(10 comments)
[01:52:40] <Gravis> Runaway1956: however, how do you rectify your position on gun ownership in the US and your stance against selling guns to other countries?
[01:52:46] <Runaway1956> Oh - shit -
[01:52:52] * Runaway1956 is blind or something
[01:53:14] <Gravis> Runaway1956: do you think people in the US are somehow more responsible with guns?
[01:53:48] <Gravis> -rectify+justify
[01:54:05] <Runaway1956> Of course not - but we don't sell guns to "the people" in Bumfock, Nowhere
[01:54:21] <Runaway1956> instead we sell guns to brutal fucking dictators, to use on the people who have no guns
[01:54:41] <Gravis> Runaway1956: so we should sell guns to everyone?
[01:55:04] <Runaway1956> Yep - open a Walmart Gun Store, and sell to the man on the street
[01:55:21] <Runaway1956> and stop selling bombs, missiles, and rockets to the dictators
[01:55:24] <Gravis> Runaway1956: btw, which dictators are we selling to exactly?
[01:55:42] <Gravis> Runaway1956: what if we just stopped selling all weapons?
[01:55:45] <Runaway1956> Which ones have money?
[01:55:54] <Gravis> Runaway1956: all of them
[01:56:12] <Runaway1956> because the difference between a free man and a slave is the right to carry weapons
[01:56:19] <Runaway1956> That truth has never been altered
[01:57:13] <Gravis> Runaway1956: so weapons are the only thing that keep us from tyranny?
[01:57:16] <Runaway1956> If the mayor of your small town commands 100 armed men, and you and your neighbors have no weapons, the mayor does whatever the fuck he wants to do
[01:57:36] <Runaway1956> In the final analysis, yes, Gravis
[01:57:57] <Gravis> Runaway1956: what do you have to backup this theory?
[01:57:58] <Runaway1956> weapons, and the balls to use them
[01:58:08] <Runaway1956> History
[01:58:45] <Gravis> Runaway1956: really? we've had weapons a still our political system is corrupt to it's core
[01:58:57] <Runaway1956> How many banana republics has the US backed? We sell all the weapons that our favorite dictator wants, but deny weapons to the populace
[01:59:33] <Runaway1956> How's things in Columbia, today?
[01:59:51] <Gravis> Runaway1956: sure, so why not just deny weapons to everyone?
[02:00:33] <Runaway1956> Why deny weapons to everyone? Who appointed you as God, to determine that poeple shouldn't have whatever they can afford?
[02:00:43] <Runaway1956> Will you also deny them cars, phones, medicine?
[02:01:19] <takyon_> The ones with the guns will deny you anything they want to deny you
[02:01:26] <Runaway1956> should we deny the world kites?
[02:01:34] <takyon_> aka government
[02:01:44] <Runaway1956> No, because I have my own guns - they can deny me nothing
[02:02:01] <takyon_> they have bigger guns
[02:02:02] <Runaway1956> Do you really think you can infect me with hoplophobia?
[02:02:04] <Gravis> Runaway1956: you really think you can take on the entire army because of guns?
[02:02:12] <takyon_> you simply aren't on the kill list yet Runaway1956
[02:02:20] <takyon_> but when you are, you will get droned
[02:02:39] <Runaway1956> Don't have to take on the entire army Gravis - did you see what happened in Turkey?
[02:03:33] <Gravis> Runaway1956: how is that related?
[02:04:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's saying the army would not be of one mind
[02:04:21] <Runaway1956> police and citizens put down an armed uprising - the army figured into the quelling of the uprising far less than police and citizens
[02:04:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is very true since the people they'd be asked to disarm would be their parents, brothers, sisters
[02:04:50] <Runaway1956> all the hoplophobes hid in the closet while real life played out
[02:05:05] <takyon_> the coup plotters had a good idea - take out Erdogan. Instead, they got killed off by Erdogan loyalists, and now many people are getting rounded up. Tyranny in Turkey won.
[02:05:17] <Gravis> Runaway1956: so you think part of the army is going to defect because lil ol'e Runaway1956 with his guns is being oppressed?
[02:05:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, ask them to take his guns away and you're damned skippy they will
[02:06:03] <Runaway1956> Wake up and smell the coffee Gravis - the army is not a monolithic body of like minded people
[02:06:20] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i'm not talking about his guns, i'm talking about tyranny
[02:06:29] <Naze> mmm coffee
[02:06:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> same thing
[02:06:41] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: he claims his guns are what prevent tyranny
[02:06:51] <Runaway1956> The Grand Old Army saw defectors when the Confederacy seceded from the Union - most notably, General Robert E. Lee - who damned near won the war for the south
[02:06:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, they're a last resort in the event of tyranny
[02:07:10] <Gravis> Runaway1956: they tortured people in cuba, trust me, they don't give a shit about people
[02:07:44] <Runaway1956> Your point?
[02:07:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, i was army and i'd have put a bullet in my sgt's head before i obeyed a "disarm a citizen" order
[02:08:01] <Gravis> military personel will do what they are told
[02:08:03] <Runaway1956> Is it your posiiton that every member of the armed forces approved of Gitmo?
[02:08:25] <Runaway1956> Gravis - you're talking to two veterans here - you don't believe either of us?
[02:08:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're told your first week, you do NOT obey illegal orders
[02:08:35] <Runaway1956> Soldiers are going to do what they think is right
[02:08:36] <Gravis> Runaway1956: i'm saying that they would obey regardless of how they believed
[02:08:51] <Gravis> Runaway1956: HA!
[02:08:59] <Runaway1956> Gravis pull your pants up - your ignorance is showing
[02:09:01] <takyon_> Gravis bites off more than he can chew yet again
[02:09:30] <takyon_> let's Godwin this shit!
[02:09:34] <Runaway1956> I will grant you a small part of a point though gravis -
[02:09:35] <takyon_> I was just following orders!
[02:09:48] <Gravis> takyon_: fucking, nazi!
[02:10:12] <Runaway1956> the liberals insist on allowing special interest groups and foreigners into the military, BECAUSE they are more liklely to follow orders without question
[02:10:29] <Gravis> LOL
[02:10:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> seriously, the military will hang your ass out to dry if you obey an illegal order. mutiny is preferable.
[02:10:57] <Naze> Why do you think ex-military is often "red-flagged" as being a potential link to terrorism?
[02:11:00] <takyon_> Runaway1956: Execute Order 66: Kill Whitey
[02:11:07] * Runaway1956 goes to Amazon to order a can of reality for Gravis
[02:11:15] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i'm talking about tyranny, where it is all legal.
[02:11:20] <Runaway1956> no need to thank me Gravis -
[02:11:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> Naze, not often. always. it's one of the specific criteria of the obama admin.
[02:11:26] <takyon_> drone delivery of can of reality
[02:11:53] <Gravis> takyon_: so a 100% fictional event? ;)
[02:11:59] <Runaway1956> ROFLMAO @ Takyon
[02:12:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, disarming a citizen exercising his 2nd right is an illegal order even if the president gives it
[02:12:12] <Naze> Not just notus, but yea, I'm saying the reason is, BECAUSE ex-military typically love this country, and the constitution it was founded on.
[02:12:33] <takyon_> ex-military killed those cops in Houston
[02:12:40] <takyon_> Baton Rouge too, right?
[02:12:42] <Runaway1956> Uhhhhhh - yes
[02:12:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> Naze, zactly. it's the reason we enlisted.
[02:12:50] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: sure but in tyranny, the constitution can be amended to whatever they want
[02:12:58] <Runaway1956> exactly - veterans decided that the cops are out of line and acted
[02:13:04] <Runaway1956> and we may see more of that shit
[02:13:14] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so the constitution gets ammended and no more guns
[02:13:15] <takyon_> Tim Kaine speaking his spanish
[02:13:20] <Naze> I'm sure there are ex-military who lose there goose, what do you expect when the VA is a joke?
[02:13:23] <Gravis> or rather, no more gun rights
[02:13:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, we got tyranny right now. they just ignore it instead of amending it though cause it's easier.
[02:13:40] <takyon_> bread and circuses
[02:13:44] <Runaway1956> gravis - you cannot revoke a right
[02:13:46] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: but how can that be, we have weapons!
[02:14:11] <Gravis> Runaway1956: apparently you don't know how constitutional ammendments work
[02:14:13] <Runaway1956> bread and circus ++
[02:14:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, cause it's not quite bad enough to have people ready to line the govt up and execute them. yet.
[02:14:29] <takyon_> the govt has pain rays, lasers, railguns, nukes, etc.
[02:14:30] <Runaway1956> and gravis has little idea how reality works
[02:14:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon_, true but we have more guns than they do.
[02:14:50] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: but at that point, did weapons protect you from tyranny?
[02:15:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, they're not protection as such, more recourse.
[02:15:18] <Runaway1956> your hoplophobia just isn't catching on here Gravis
[02:15:38] <takyon_> that's where the drones come in, TheMightyBuzzard. In 15 years, kill drones will be tiny enough to fly through the crack in your window and deliver a lethal toxin straight to your neck
[02:16:01] <Runaway1956> now THAT is a scary idea takyon
[02:16:10] <Naze> dem nanobots
[02:16:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon_, to over a hundred million people? even china don't have that kinda balls.
[02:16:20] <Runaway1956> of course, government won't be the only ones with access to that tech
[02:16:24] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: and you think your weapons and a bunch of fools can defeat the army?
[02:16:25] <takyon_> you don't have to kill 100 million people
[02:16:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, i know so
[02:16:45] <takyon_> you just have to kill 1 million and get the rest too scared to react. and kill anybody who rebels
[02:17:07] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: then you don't know tyranny as well as you think you do
[02:17:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon_, yeah, that worked really well for the brits.
[02:17:12] <Bytram|away> takyon_: or maybe only a few thousand (World Trade Center)
[02:17:21] <takyon_> get a nice fly sized drone to kill 50 people, then you only need 20,000 to kill 1 million
[02:17:23] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[02:17:25] <Runaway1956> takyon makes a point - kill off the ten or fifty bravest men in a city or county, the organization loses steam
[02:17:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, you don't know military conflict at all if you don't see it too.
[02:17:37] <Naze> cointelpro
[02:18:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> load the entire military up on us soil and i guarantee the armed citizens could and would win.
[02:18:33] <cmn32480> the military is (largely, I think) smart enough to think twice about firing on citizens
[02:18:43] <Naze> ^
[02:18:46] <takyon_> Runaway1956: It is even easier today with the rise of "leaderless movements" based on social media. It is easy to sow chaos in them. Kill off anybody who looks like they could be a real leader (like an MLK) and you are left with confused and angry participants divided on what to do
[02:18:46] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: if they fought to the last man in a firefight, sure. however, that's not it works
[02:18:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> we outnumber them roughly a thousand to one
[02:18:57] <Runaway1956> Everything depends on the success of the propaganda put out before conflict begins
[02:18:58] <Gravis> not how*
[02:19:32] <cmn32480> takyon_ - see Bernie Sanders followers
[02:19:34] <Gravis> Runaway1956: 1000 to one? you realize there are millions of people in the armed forces, right?
[02:19:37] <Runaway1956> that is exactly right takyon - and the subject of a at least a half dozen time travel stories
[02:19:58] <Gravis> that was for TheMightyBuzzard
[02:20:00] <takyon_> cmn32480: maybe the military will be downsized and replaced with Blackwater/Xe mercenaries
[02:20:03] * Runaway1956 determines that Gravis is incapable of thinking in military terms
[02:20:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, no. there never have been over a million.
[02:20:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> not even close.
[02:20:17] <Runaway1956> Gravis are you at all familiar with sun tzu?
[02:20:25] <cmn32480> 1.4million as of January 31
[02:20:36] <cmn32480> 2015
[02:20:42] <Runaway1956> 1.4 million includes what exactly?
[02:20:45] <takyon_> cmn32480: It's about time to make a race of genetic supersoldiers obedient to the POTUS
[02:20:59] <Runaway1956> Reservs, National Guard, Coast Guard, everything ??
[02:21:08] <cmn32480> I suppose that includes the coast guard too... so yeah....
[02:21:18] <takyon_> chair force
[02:21:23] <takyon_> drone chair force
[02:21:34] <Runaway1956> And, veterans still outnumber the military
[02:21:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, you can basically count out the NG and CG. governors will largely not put up with military action on their soil.
[02:21:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> and the cg... well they're the cg.
[02:22:06] <takyon_> Runaway1956: The VA is intentionally giving bad service to make the vets easier to kill off ;)
[02:22:35] <Runaway1956> uh-huh - but only a rather small number of veterans rely on the VA
[02:22:47] <takyon_> and they're all on the kill list
[02:22:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> under clinton, it was 75% guard/reserves 25% active military
[02:22:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> bumped up under bush. cut under obama.
[02:23:00] <Runaway1956> I went to the VA in Shreveport once - found that it would take months to see a doctor, and took care of business elsewhere
[02:23:37] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: 1.5m are currently active. https://readtiger.com
[02:23:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> see above percentages.
[02:23:59] <cmn32480> gravis - keep in mind that "active duty" includes EVERYBODY
[02:24:11] <cmn32480> the secretaries, the guys who count mess kits
[02:24:23] <Runaway1956> That graph still doesn't explain WHO is being counted
[02:24:28] <cmn32480> the guy on the recruiting poster
[02:24:50] * Runaway1956 wonders if Gravis understands any of the differences between NG, Army, etc
[02:24:53] <cmn32480> at 1.5 million, it is likely everybody who gets a paycheck from the active military
[02:25:06] <takyon_> janitors?
[02:25:09] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: ok, so you have guns and they have tanks, drones, bombs, etc. you still think that gun will do squat?
[02:25:35] <Runaway1956> It worked in Turkey Gravis - have you read any news in the last couple years/
[02:25:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, absosmurfly
[02:26:01] <Runaway1956> Unarmed people resisted the army at Tienanmen Square, and they made a difference
[02:26:09] <takyon_> I'm not kidding about the drone thing. I'm sure that the technology will advance to let one Blackwater mercenary kill 1,000 civilians in 15 minutes with a briefcase full of drones.
[02:26:12] <cmn32480> and a big grease spot
[02:26:30] * Runaway1956 is so happy, he could shit
[02:26:34] <Gravis> takyon_: exactly
[02:26:45] * cmn32480 hand Runaway1956 a roll od two ply
[02:27:01] * Runaway1956 thanks cmn32480
[02:27:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> armed citizens have resisted a vastly superior military and won on this soil before.
[02:27:21] <Runaway1956> gravis would be funny if he weren't so fuckiing serious
[02:27:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> and it's even easier now.
[02:27:43] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you don't seem to comprehend how much has changed technologically in that time
[02:28:01] <Runaway1956> gravis you don't seem to comprehend PEOPLE
[02:28:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, you don't seem to understand the power of asymmetric warfare.
[02:28:22] <Gravis> Runaway1956: so when they nuke a city to make an example?
[02:28:34] <takyon_> DNC live: woman stroking Biden's back spotted
[02:28:51] <Runaway1956> Yeah - I really anticipate a nuke being launched at any of our cities
[02:29:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, then twenty cities and the entire state of texas call in the guard and level washington
[02:29:34] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: and when the forces en route are nuked?
[02:29:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> good luck with thaqt
[02:30:10] <takyon_> TheMightyBuzzard: all the military does nowadays is asymmetric warfare. Lots of R&D is going into it. So when the drones come to burn through your window and deliver a toxin into your neck, and then do it to 49 other people, you'll say, "Damn. That was pretty good."
[02:30:49] <Gravis> ^
[02:31:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon_, drones do not scare me. they require a pilot. that means one less pair of boots on the ground for something that dies to an emp i can make out of car parts and sheet metal
[02:31:24] <Runaway1956> The day that a nuke is launched at, let's say Philadelphia, how many soldiers and sailors do you think will defect?
[02:31:35] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: actually, they don't need pilots, they just need targets
[02:31:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, roughly 85%
[02:32:06] <takyon_> TheMightyBuzzard: "they require a pilot" not really. They can be flown semi-autonomously and be given semi-autonomous killing capability for sure.
[02:32:21] <cmn32480> Gravis has been reading a little too much Mocking Jay
[02:32:23] <takyon_> Let's make it an app
[02:32:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon_, not without a painted target, which is another pair of boots off the ground
[02:32:40] <takyon_> You select the homes on a pretty iPad, and little drones go in and wipe out all heat signatures
[02:33:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, in that case... i see your drone and raise you a tennis racket
[02:33:30] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you only need to have someone's face or if it's anyone within a house, just the GPS cords
[02:34:08] <takyon_> "i see your drone" - yeah and I'm sure you swat every mosquito within 2 seconds of spotting it. and you are always holding a tennis racket, 24/7
[02:34:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, and you think this won't piss AMERICANS off even more?
[02:34:28] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you assume they will know about it
[02:34:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon_, and they can go through a closed window, yep
[02:34:46] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: this is tyranny after all
[02:35:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, i could, if i really wanted, end any politician in this nation within a year.
[02:35:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> any veteran could.
[02:35:45] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: sure... if they aren't aware of you
[02:36:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> and why would they be? until i decide to i'm just another citizen.
[02:36:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> after i decide to, i'm not going to tell anyone, just do it
[02:36:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> they get zero warning
[02:36:33] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you think you could avoid all the cameras?
[02:36:37] <SirFinkus> well, you're certainly on a few lists now...
[02:36:40] <takyon_> TheMightyBuzzard: Is your home airtight? No critters getting in at all? If it is secure, then it's an engineering problem. Better have some strong windows or steel shutters. Or a concrete bunker.
[02:36:51] <Runaway1956> Holy shit, it's 9:30 - didn't realize it's so late
[02:36:54] <Runaway1956> later all
[02:37:00] <takyon_> bye
[02:37:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite
[02:37:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, don't need to. just need my rifle to look like... say a mop.
[02:37:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> or not look like anything at all because it's in a suitcase.
[02:38:04] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: my point is that you will kill one person and then they will figure out it's you. after that they backtrack and wipe out your resistance force.
[02:38:29] <SirFinkus> using an interface coded in visual basic!
[02:38:38] <Gravis> SirFinkus: bold move
[02:38:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> or i could just mix up some peroxide and bleach and put it in the freezer. tomorrow i have TATP and it's not going to get detected by explosives detectors because no nitrogen.
[02:39:12] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: are you going suicide bomber?
[02:39:15] <takyon_> I just bought bleach. I could make that!
[02:39:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> suicide? nah. i'd make em execute me publicly
[02:39:44] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[02:39:45] <systemd> ^ 03GUI interface using visual basic to track the killers IP address CSI - YouTube
[02:39:49] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: your execution wouldn't be public
[02:40:03] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you and your rebels would be wiped out
[02:40:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> what rebels. that's lone actor shit.
[02:40:19] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: it would be silenced and nobody would know
[02:40:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> one person. hundreds dead.
[02:40:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> in the internet age? please. you know better.
[02:40:54] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: again, this is tyranny
[02:41:04] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: tyranny isn't an overnight change, it takes time
[02:41:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, that would require the government be competent at internet shit
[02:41:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're not
[02:41:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, a few torrents spread around offshore sites and they're hosed.
[02:41:56] <Gravis> right because there is no spying going on for you know... the whole fucking net
[02:42:23] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: the NSA has their pockets in every major node
[02:42:27] * cmn32480 thinks we shoudl run this https://soylentnews.org(+FULL+)+-+YouTube
[02:42:28] <systemd> ^ 03SN Submission by MrPlow: CLINTON CASH OFFICIAL DOCUMENTARY MOVIE ( FULL ) - YouTube
[02:42:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> and? release manifesto, count to 10, trigger bomb
[02:42:37] <Gravis> err... their hand in the pockets of*
[02:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> you have no imagination whatsoever
[02:43:02] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you underestimate what tyrants are capable of
[02:43:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck man, i could flatten congress in my sleep.
[02:43:25] <cmn32480> some of those guys are pretty fat... might take driving a steam roller
[02:43:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair point
[02:43:42] <cmn32480> it'd be like in Austin Powers...
[02:43:47] <Gravis> cmn32480: nah, they are old and have brittle bones
[02:43:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, you underestimate what a reasonably intelligent person who wants you dead is capable of.
[02:44:26] <cmn32480> Congressional term limits
[02:44:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> multiply that by a hundred million. then arm them.
[02:44:33] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: again, that's only if they aren't on gaurd
[02:44:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck that. even if they are on guard.
[02:45:11] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: really, you are going to get them in their underground bunkers in undisclosed locations?
[02:45:18] <cmn32480> easisest way for the revolution to start is by storming the capitol and white house
[02:45:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, i'm going to get the ones they leave on the surface then collapse their tunnels.
[02:45:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, troof
[02:46:06] <cmn32480> prolly end it pretty quick too....
[02:46:07] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: and how would you find them?
[02:46:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> if they run, they lose their power. if they stand, they die.
[02:46:40] * cmn32480 waits for the FBI to knock on his door
[02:46:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, by what they're able to do
[02:46:47] <Runaway1956> Still here, Gravis
[02:46:57] <Runaway1956> there are no "secret" underground facilities
[02:46:58] <cmn32480> shoudln't you be on the way to wrk Runaway1956
[02:47:02] <Runaway1956> and they all need air
[02:47:13] <Runaway1956> put gas down the vents, and they all die like rats underground
[02:47:19] <Runaway1956> I'm gone now
[02:47:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yeah, Runaway1956 has the right idea since i got fish to catch tomorrow.
[02:47:48] <Gravis> well you two fools are quite the optimists
[02:48:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, i know my capabilities and i know theirs since i was part of their capabilities.
[02:48:39] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: technology has changed a LOT
[02:48:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> one random schmuck with no warning... they stand no chance. ask reagan.
[02:48:47] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you don't know all their capabilities
[02:49:11] <takyon_> but reagan lived lol
[02:49:15] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you'll get caught before you have the chance
[02:49:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'cause it wasn't me shooting
[02:49:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean really. who uses an automatic weapon when a shotgun is so much more effective?
[02:49:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> and will hit where your aim
[02:50:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> or a sniper rifle from half a mile away.
[02:50:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> or a bomb inside a baseball from 50 yards
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[02:50:56] <cmn32480> fellas... can't we all just get along?
[02:51:03] <cmn32480> and on that note, ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[02:51:10] <cmn32480> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[02:51:12] * exec defiantly reticulates a sweaty armpit of void pointers for TheMightyBuzzard
[02:51:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> and that's just off the top of my head shit. i don't sit around thinking about this stuff. i think of fishing or code or boobs.
[02:51:14] <cmn32480> ~gnight gravis
[02:51:17] * exec romantically nudges a rar archive of kryptonite watermelon toward gravis
[02:52:13] <SirFinkus> what do you think about boobs?
[02:52:15] <Gravis> cmn32480: pff... food in a proprietary format? what do you expect me to do with this, eat it?
[02:52:19] <SirFinkus> I think they're pretty neat personally
[02:52:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> 8008135++
[02:52:23] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 39
[02:52:31] * Gravis throws the rare archived watermellon on the ground
[02:52:35] <Gravis> rar*
[02:52:53] <cmn32480> I agree w/ TMB and Sirfinkus.. they are pretty neat
[02:53:03] <cmn32480> matter of fact.. I think I will go upstairs and play with some right now
[02:53:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[02:53:18] <systemd> ^✓ 03SN (dev) article: bewbs
[02:53:21] <SirFinkus> nobody wants to hear about your masturbation habits/obesity cmn32480
[02:53:24] <Gravis> cmn32480: playing with your manboobs doesn't count. ;)
[02:53:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> double zing
[02:53:48] <SirFinkus> I was first
[02:54:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, dev.soylentnews.org does indeed have a Bewbs nexus now
[02:55:03] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i blame it on network lag. ;P
[02:55:16] <SirFinkus> my string was longer too
[02:55:44] <cmn32480> and my dong is longer, what's your point?
[02:55:59] <SirFinkus> NOT LONGER THAN MY ASSHOLE
[02:56:02] <Gravis> oh yeah, well my dong is unicode!
[02:56:14] <cmn32480> it's poo gravis?
[02:56:17] <cmn32480> ewwwwww
[02:56:25] <Gravis> SirFinkus: everyone knows TheMightyBuzzard is the biggest asshole. ;P
[02:56:48] <SirFinkus> but not the longest asshole
[02:56:54] <SirFinkus> that distinction belongs to me
[02:57:33] <Naze> Sounds like you'd make a fine gun, SirFinkus
[02:57:57] <SirFinkus> not sure what to make of that
[02:58:03] <Gravis> SirFinkus: sounds like you have some medical issues you should get fixed.
[02:58:14] <SirFinkus> it's an ASSet Gravis
[02:58:15] <Naze> Some sort of mancannon
[02:58:21] <Naze> #agentbrown
[02:59:46] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[03:00:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, gracias. it's nice to be appreciated for all the effort i put in.
[03:01:24] <cmn32480> buzzard.. that's awesome
[03:01:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, it's an hour past my bedtime. nite.
[03:01:28] <cmn32480> now we need one on the main site
[03:01:40] <cmn32480> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[03:01:42] * exec hurriedly inserts a cheap plastic cup of pre-snorted fridge mold into TheMightyBuzzard
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[05:07:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - After-Hours Email Expectations Negatively Impact Employee Well-Being - http://sylnt.us - you-have-mail
[06:38:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Uber switched from Postgres to MySQL - http://sylnt.us - they-forgot-about-mssql
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[08:40:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - British Workers See Biggest Fall in Wages - http://sylnt.us - wages-getting-pounded
[09:07:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg
[09:07:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> morning--
[09:07:08] <Bender> karma - morning: -3
[09:07:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[09:07:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2761
[09:08:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[09:08:55] <MrPlow> Today: Thunderstorms likely. High 84F. Winds WSW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Tomorrow: Scattered thunderstorms, especially in the morning. High around 90F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
[09:09:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather 74872
[09:09:04] <MrPlow> Today: A mix of clouds and sun. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High 92F. Winds light and variable. Tomorrow: Partly cloudy skies. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High around 90F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph.
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[09:41:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> so EF is sd.sd.cox.net and Gravis is dc.dc.cox.net. which just goes to show that reality has a sense of humor, calling our two favorite trolls cocks like that.
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[10:07:40] * TheMightyBuzzard heads out in search of peace n quiet
[10:07:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> fishing++
[10:07:45] <Bender> karma - fishing: 22
[10:41:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Those Dang Kids! So What if SpaceX and Blue Origin are Launching and Landing - http://sylnt.us - whippersnappers
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[11:45:36] <weeds> Mornin' y'all
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[12:02:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> hello all
[12:02:44] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: hey, wtf can't i search my own comments?
[12:03:10] <weeds> ~gday andytheabsurd
[12:03:12] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: or perhaps, why can't i search comments by username?
[12:03:12] * exec explicitly farts a blerg of shekels at andytheabsurd
[12:05:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> blerg? Yuck. But hey, I get shekels, so that's nice.
[12:06:37] <boru> #dict -d ud blerg
[12:06:40] <boru> Boo.
[12:07:31] <boru> ~dict -D
[12:07:43] <boru> Feh, silly bots. Who doesn't have a dict(1) plugin!
[12:08:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://www.urbandictionary.com
[12:08:12] <systemd> ^ 03Urban Dictionary, July 28: flat earther ( http://www.urbandictionary.com )
[12:08:35] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:08:37] * exec insensitively vomits an assload of ice cream on TheMightyBuzzard
[12:10:33] <weeds> speechless
[12:11:30] <cmn32480> we aim to please
[12:11:56] <cmn32480> boru - it is ~define
[12:12:00] <cmn32480> ~define -D
[12:12:01] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03-D: Cyclops smiley. Designed by Katie. Extremely retarted.
[12:12:16] <boru> Does one really aim emetic assloads of icecream, though?
[12:12:24] <boru> That's not dict(1)!
[12:12:26] <Gravis> karma burn activated! https://soylentnews.org
[12:12:27] <systemd> ^ 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:2)
[12:12:36] <boru> `-D` prints the dict database servers it supports.
[12:12:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Team Uses Nanoparticles to Break Up Plaque and Prevent Cavities - http://sylnt.us - brushing-regularly-helps-too
[12:13:06] <cmn32480> we only support urban dictionary
[12:13:25] <boru> Boo, no Jargon File or Devil's Dictionary.
[12:17:09] <cmn32480> ~tell crutchy to fix his dic choice
[12:17:33] <cmn32480> erm.. now that I read that perhaps I ought to clarify....
[12:21:06] * boru chuckles
[12:23:09] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[12:23:10] <systemd> ^ 03SN Submission by Ethanol-fueled: SJW-RIdden Arstechnica Marches in Lockstep with DNC Narrative, Points Finger at Russia Bogeyman
[12:23:25] <cmn32480> i don't think it'lll make the front page.. but it is rather hilarious
[12:24:39] <boru> Has anyone added the 'political wank' story category yet? (As a precursor to a user-define-able news filter, of course)
[12:26:36] <cmn32480> that'd be a nexus
[12:26:44] <cmn32480> not yet, AFAIK
[12:27:04] <cmn32480> but TMB has been working on them in dev, and I believe has created a bewbs nexus
[12:27:10] <boru> Neat.
[12:27:24] <boru> I commend his productivity.
[12:28:20] <cmn32480> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[12:28:20] <systemd> ^ 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN is secured dead goatse
[12:29:34] <boru> Interesting.
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[12:54:02] <n1> damn kids
[12:57:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> did you have to chase them off your lawn?
[12:59:15] <n1> i wish i could, they're 20 something year old kids, listening to their loud shitty music, eating my food.
[12:59:20] * n1 grumbles
[12:59:37] <paulej72> charge them room and board
[13:01:38] <boru> Have you considered Naptime™?
[13:01:42] <n1> the balance of contributions has gone quite out of sync in this house recently
[13:02:02] <paulej72> cholorform induced Naptime?
[13:02:23] <boru> Yes: https://www.youtube.com
[13:02:24] <systemd> ^✓ 03Naptime! // HandleBarMustacheLand - YouTube
[13:04:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> file under "ugh, people": I hate when people ask me to do something, then, when I ask for additional information, they just kind of .... disappear.
[13:06:06] <n1> oh well at least the music seems to have stopped now...
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[13:27:26] <cmn32480> AndyTheAbsurd, I think it is gonna be that kind of day.
[13:30:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think it's going to be an "ugh, people" *and* an "ugh, technology" day.
[13:30:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> I should have stayed home and read a book.
[13:30:33] <cmn32480> I'm hoping that the tech at least cooperates
[13:30:43] * cmn32480 agrees
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[13:47:06] <boru> I'm having an 'ugh, management' day.
[13:47:24] <boru> Actually, scratch that. This project is the very paragon of snafu.
[13:48:25] <n1> they all are
[13:53:18] <Runaway1956> Enjoy the snafu while you can - things are about to get much worse.
[13:53:19] <boru> This current one takes the crown as the worst managed project I've worked on in my entire career.
[14:00:16] <Gravis> Runaway1956: how are things going to get much worse for boru?
[14:01:12] <boru> Such is the general case. No matter how bad you think a project is going, it can always get much, much worse.
[14:04:21] * n1 shudders
[14:06:00] <Runaway1956> Gravis reminds me of my youngest son - he's so literal minded.
[14:10:51] <Gravis> Runaway1956: so it's going to get worse... metaphorically?
[14:13:02] <Naze1> maybe he is your youngest son?
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[14:16:35] <Naze> geeze, that's fun
[14:19:03] <boru> Sheesh, the pedantry is up to 11.
[14:20:06] <Naze> Who would even run something like that? lol
[14:34:49] <cmn32480> idiots
[14:36:30] <Runaway1956> Gravis, my son? Hmmmmm . . . . I do have a shady history . . . .
[14:41:00] <Runaway1956> Don't know if I've ever mentioned this, but I positively HATE WINDOWS!
[14:41:25] <cmn32480> bettert submit that as breaking news
[14:41:38] <Runaway1956> Right now, the little circle thingy is spinning round and round, with a message "Configuring Windows, do not turn off your computer"
[14:42:26] <Runaway1956> I'd like to stuff some paradigm-shifting synergies up Bill Gate's ass
[14:45:02] <Runaway1956> I wonder - this may sound crazy but - does anyone here think that Hinkley might try to kill Reagan again?
[14:45:39] <Naze> that was... disjointed...
[14:46:11] <Runaway1956> LOL - that was - kinda intended
[14:47:09] <Naze> funny, but mad lol
[14:48:39] <cmn32480> it'd be interesting to see him try
[14:48:57] <cmn32480> though it might land him back in the loony bin
[14:49:04] <Runaway1956> I'd like to watch -
[14:49:23] <Runaway1956> I had a helper who died of anorexia - kept trying to get him to take his meds.
[14:49:41] <Runaway1956> Told him several times if he dropped dead, I'd dig him up, and kick his ass
[14:49:51] <Naze> lol
[14:50:00] <Runaway1956> haven't gotten around to doing so yet - maybe Hinckly can give me some pointers
[14:50:52] <Runaway1956> Seriously, I think of Rudy frequently, he was a damned good man to have around
[14:51:26] <cmn32480> anorexia is scary
[14:51:27] <Runaway1956> I said anorexia - meant aneurysm
[14:51:39] <Runaway1956> Fek, senility is eating me up
[14:51:48] * cmn32480 hands Runaway1956 his pills
[14:51:56] * Runaway1956 thanks you
[14:52:18] <Runaway1956> wonder if the other ocmputer has decided to boot up yet . . . .
[14:52:31] <cmn32480> yes.. but the kids are on it playing games already
[14:52:49] <Runaway1956> nope - it's still configuring
[14:52:55] <Runaway1956> stupid assed windows
[14:55:32] <Naze> why don't you just install 3.1?
[14:56:57] <Runaway1956> The wife would spaz out worse than she already does
[14:57:55] <Naze> tell her to have a sniggers
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[15:28:00] <Runaway1956> ~weather
[15:28:01] <exec> 10Dallas, TX, USA - currently 84°F / 29°C, mostly cloudy, wind S at 7 mph, humidity 67% - Thursday partly cloudy (77°F:91°F / 25°C:33°C), Friday scattered thunderstorms (78°F:96°F / 26°C:36°C), Saturday mostly sunny (78°F:98°F / 26°C:37°C), Sunday sunny (78°F:98°F / 26°C:37°C)
[15:42:16] * cmn32480 is gettng hungry
[15:42:20] <cmn32480> ~TIME
[15:42:22] <exec> Thursday, 28 July 2016 @ 11:42 am EDT - Baltimore, MD, USA
[15:42:25] <cmn32480> oh
[15:42:27] <cmn32480> that explains it
[15:44:09] <Runaway1956> Do they have clocks in Baltimore?
[15:44:27] <boru> They have eaten them all, apparently.
[15:44:53] <boru> And went back for seconds.
[15:44:54] <Runaway1956> Probably eaten by the crews of the whaling ships
[15:45:13] <boru> Minute pun there.
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[15:45:46] <Runaway1956> You weren't happy with the first one, and tried to sneak that second one past.
[15:45:49] <cmn32480> hour people here don't eat clocks.. they jsut can't read them
[15:45:58] <boru> Dates what I've heard.
[15:46:25] <boru> I was on watch for the opportunity.
[15:46:40] <Runaway1956> That was the mid-watch?
[15:46:53] * Runaway1956 looks around the room wondering what to do
[15:47:00] <Runaway1956> maybe I'll just fall in bed
[15:47:01] <cmn32480> eating clocks an a log is a delicacy around here
[15:47:38] * Runaway1956 thinks about changing the spelling in cmn's sentence to "cocks" -
[15:47:57] <Runaway1956> nahhhh, don't want any of the LGBT community beating up on me
[15:48:03] * boru would then s/log/bog/
[15:49:25] <Runaway1956> That mostly cloudy weather is getting loud, drumming on the roof
[15:49:40] <boru> It's probably meteorites.
[15:49:53] <Runaway1956> probably due to philae
[15:50:47] <boru> Philae steaks.
[15:50:54] <cmn32480> an a log = analogue it was still a clock pun
[15:51:05] <boru> All of this talk of food has reminded me that it's nearly dinner time.
[15:51:12] <cmn32480> good plan
[15:51:15] <cmn32480> lunch tiome here
[15:51:26] <Runaway1956> Dinner - do you eat dinner in the middle of the day, or in the evening?
[15:51:33] <cmn32480> ~time boru
[15:51:35] <exec> Tuesday, 30 November 1999 @ 12:00 am - SimilarA great sprint event for the competitor preparing for Hell of The West (perfect time
[15:51:48] <boru> How did it know!
[15:51:50] <Runaway1956> am
[15:51:54] <cmn32480> huh
[15:51:57] <Runaway1956> Soylent knows
[15:52:10] <cmn32480> that's a little ... um... odd
[15:52:25] <boru> Yeah, I'm definitely not a time traveller.
[15:52:32] <cmn32480> ~time
[15:52:33] * boru absconds.
[15:52:34] <exec> Thursday, 28 July 2016 @ 11:52 am EDT - Baltimore, MD, USA
[15:52:37] <cmn32480> ok
[15:52:44] <cmn32480> ~time nome
[15:52:46] <exec> Thursday, 28 July 2016 @ 7:52 am AKDT - Nome, AK, USA
[15:52:53] <cmn32480> unknown
[15:53:05] <Runaway1956> ~time paris
[15:53:07] <exec> Thursday, 28 July 2016 @ 5:53 pm GMT+2 - Paris, France
[15:53:19] <boru> Looks like it read into other memory, perhaps.
[15:53:27] <boru> ~time aaaa
[15:53:29] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Thursday, 28 July 2016, 3:53 pm
[15:53:37] <boru> Hmm. Peculiar.
[15:53:51] <boru> Secondary emission cosmic rays, likely.
[15:53:54] <Runaway1956> ~time North Pole
[15:53:56] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Thursday, 28 July 2016, 3:53 pm
[15:54:08] <boru> ~time alert
[15:54:10] <exec> Thursday, 28 July 2016 @ 11:54 am EDT - Alert, NU, Canada
[15:54:24] <cmn32480> ~time your mom
[15:54:25] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Thursday, 28 July 2016, 3:54 pm
[15:54:31] <Runaway1956> More likely it's the quantum computer chip in your machine
[15:54:45] <Runaway1956> ~time Mom
[15:54:48] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Thursday, 28 July 2016, 3:54 pm
[15:54:50] <cmn32480> yeah.. that Celeron that exec runs on is a beast
[15:54:51] <boru> I don't know what you're talking about. Quantum computers haven't been invented yet in 1999.
[15:55:18] <boru> Ah, Inhell. Division is futile, you will be approximated.
[15:55:25] <Runaway1956> They're still talking about quantum computers in 2099
[15:55:52] <boru> That's after the robot uprising in 2078. Humans aren't allowed to speak in 2099.
[15:56:12] <Runaway1956> Telepathy FTW
[15:56:49] <boru> Be careful, the robots don't know about that yet.
[15:56:54] <Runaway1956> I'm getting cold, and I'm to lazy to turn down the AC, so I'm headed to bed where the covers are warm
[15:57:25] <boru> AC cannot cool air enough to a point where I am uncomfortable, personallly.
[15:58:03] <cmn32480> ~gnight Runaway1956
[15:58:05] * exec disturbingly pairs a C cup of ribs with Runaway1956
[16:31:17] <Naze> boru, so you're a meatlocker kinda person?
[16:32:11] <boru> I prefer it to be dry and cold.
[16:32:36] <Naze> sounds like that might make sex difficult
[16:32:40] <boru> Though having grown up where the RH is seldom below 90%, I've become accustomed to it.
[16:33:10] <boru> 'Difficult' is an excuse for the unimaginative.
[16:34:32] <Naze> time for a pair of c-clamps and a jar of crisco
[16:41:39] <cmn32480> naze - you tease!
[16:42:01] <boru> Get a room, lovebirds!
[16:42:10] <Naze> just the tip... of my arm
[16:42:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> Don't encourage him... he might break out the heavy-duty hardware, and I don't *want* to know what "heavy duty hardware" consists of in this context.
[16:50:21] * boru chuckles
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[16:55:13] <AC> HAhahahahahahah
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[18:20:02] <AzumaHazuki> I have a submission...this is another "OMFG M$ did something scheissty again" thing, but it's fitting the pattern
[18:20:09] <AzumaHazuki> http://www.ghacks.net
[18:20:15] <systemd> ^ 03Microsoft removes policies from Windows 10 Pro - gHacks Tech News
[18:20:40] <Naze> Group Policies?
[18:20:43] <AzumaHazuki> indeed
[18:20:53] <Naze> hello darkness hello friend
[18:21:41] <Naze> Get ready for subscription windows
[18:21:43] <AzumaHazuki> hello darkness my ol' friend / it sucks to be with you again / vendor lockin just ain't any fun / and your OS, well it ain't the one / for my boooox, ain't underrrrr my controlll / any more...
[18:21:59] <AzumaHazuki> 'cause you're a whooooore / for spyin'
[18:21:59] <Naze> It's in a shed
[18:22:14] <Naze> lol
[18:22:24] <AzumaHazuki> ...i made that up literally on the spot. i should do filks
[18:22:45] * Naze claps
[18:22:52] <Naze> gj autismo
[18:24:03] <AzumaHazuki> No, no, see...people with autism are physically incapable of giving a fuck. I CHOOSE not to
[18:24:30] * Naze shrugs
[18:29:11] <AzumaHazuki> anyway, while that article is more of the same "i told you so" we've been doing for the last 20+ years...still worth letting people know
[18:30:04] <Naze> I think France is bringing them up on charges of spying in Win 10 as well
[18:30:14] <Naze> something along those lines
[18:31:18] <AzumaHazuki> Yup, I saw that. Unfortunately Microsoft is a US company, so what can they do?
[18:32:08] <Naze> Well, in their nation, plenty
[18:32:11] <Naze> elsewhere, not so much
[18:32:21] <Naze> probably just trying to grab money from them
[18:32:27] <Naze> they'll go right on spying
[18:33:01] <AzumaHazuki> money ruins everything. the greedheads always take over eventually
[18:33:18] <Naze> It's a small world
[18:33:54] <AzumaHazuki> this cycle repeats over and over and over again. I'm so sick of it.
[18:34:36] <Naze> That's why I'm just an observer
[18:35:08] <AzumaHazuki> no one is "just an observer." Everything is connected to everything else. Or do you think, for example, a new world war won't affect you?
[18:35:29] <Naze> It's not that it won't, but it's not my responsibility
[18:35:48] <AzumaHazuki> even so...fight. do what you can.
[18:36:19] <Naze> I work through peace
[18:36:37] <AzumaHazuki> there are ways to fight that aren't directly violent. so do i
[18:36:52] <Naze> I just lead by example, or at least try
[18:37:06] <Naze> hate begets hate
[18:37:25] <AzumaHazuki> yeah...my weakness is getting too emotional sometimes. anger is the fuel, not the engine
[18:37:53] <Naze> I used to be like that, until I realized that they were just winning, me making myself miserable
[18:39:16] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, i'm getting better about this too. proper nutrition helps a lot
[18:39:56] <Naze> It's probably one of the most unappreciated things in the US.
[18:41:42] <cmn32480> AzumaHazuki - I'm wondering if the nasty bits can be edited in powershell?
[18:42:22] <cmn32480> I was able to remove a TON of the general cruft on both home and pro that way when you can't do it via the regular paths
[18:42:54] <Naze> There's so much BS in the win Kernel, GL getting rid of it with powershell
[18:42:54] * cmn32480 tucks his win 7 keys into a safe place
[18:43:17] <Naze> you should read the comments some time when you're bored
[18:43:27] <cmn32480> I did
[18:43:39] <cmn32480> because I was avoiding doing what I get paid for
[18:43:54] <Naze> Not sure I understand what you mean
[18:44:04] <cmn32480> I read the comments in the above linked article.
[18:44:12] <cmn32480> most are useless drivel
[18:44:21] <Naze> oh, no no, I mean the comments in the Win Kernel
[18:44:29] <cmn32480> oh
[18:44:40] <cmn32480> I'm not sure I'll ever be that bored
[18:44:49] <cmn32480> it's kinda like reading the US tax code I imagine
[18:44:51] <Naze> there are some parts you can pull apart, I haven't looked at the Kernel since Win 7
[18:45:19] <Naze> Some of it is funny, just over written junk
[18:45:25] <Naze> Most of it is drab
[18:45:47] <cmn32480> nice
[18:45:56] <Naze> They usually push "peak-a-boos" through updates
[18:46:05] <Naze> but it seems like it's built into the core of Win 10
[18:46:11] <Naze> I have no desire to find out though
[18:46:23] <cmn32480> it looks like I'm going to have to shut down the wife's updates.... and the ones in my gaming VM too
[18:47:13] <Naze> There are tracking apparitions all the way back to XP
[18:47:21] <cmn32480> I'm sure
[18:47:33] <Naze> 7 is fairly well documented
[18:47:39] <Naze> but there's probably still more
[18:47:48] <cmn32480> but many of my oldish games won't run in Linux
[18:48:13] * cmn32480 needs to start experimenting w/ wine
[18:48:35] <Naze> A good amount of older games run (less well) on wine
[18:49:02] <Naze> It's still hit and miss though
[18:49:13] <Naze> I wish reactos hard more core devs
[18:51:01] <Naze> I think the big one this year is Vulcan
[18:51:13] <Naze> which should in the future bring more support to Lin
[18:51:18] <Naze> for graphics programming
[18:51:46] <Naze> It's like an alternative to DirectX / OpenGL, but it runs on Lin/Win
[18:52:08] <Naze> basically, developers whom use it, don't have to rewrite source for that portion of their code if they use it
[18:52:15] <Naze> so porting is WAY simple
[18:52:42] <cmn32480> holy jebus that was a big thinder clap
[18:52:49] <cmn32480> whole damn building shook
[18:52:57] * cmn32480 checks his underoos
[18:53:00] <Naze> lol
[18:53:18] <Naze> I had one like that the other day, thought there was an attack going on or something lmao
[18:53:37] <cmn32480> the rain is coming down sideways too
[18:53:53] <Naze> Turns out some guy got struck by lightning, trying to pull copper off live wire connected to a transformer
[18:54:03] <Naze> literally eviscerated
[18:54:09] <Naze> huge explosion
[18:54:10] <cmn32480> yick
[18:54:24] <Naze> He was... melted to the power pole
[18:54:39] <Naze> power went out for almost 2 days
[18:54:43] <Naze> lol
[18:55:12] <Naze> I feel bad for whoever had to clean that up
[19:05:32] <cmn32480> most definetly a nsty job
[19:09:14] <AzumaHazuki> yiiikes...i hope he died instantly
[19:09:51] <Naze> I imagine so, he got struck by lightning, than the transformer exploded... He was literally the conduit to the power lines
[19:10:06] <Naze> less than a foot from the transformer
[19:10:12] * Naze BOOM
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[19:26:07] <SirFinkus> morning folks
[19:26:33] <Naze> morning
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[20:24:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> naps++
[20:24:27] <Bender> karma - naps: 44
[20:24:30] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[20:24:30] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[20:24:42] <cmn32480> #smake TheMightyBuzzard for napping
[20:24:42] * MrPlow smakes TheMightyBuzzard for napping upside the head with a paternity suit
[20:25:02] <cmn32480> some of us are stuck on phone calls with fucktards
[20:25:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> me:~50 fishes:0
[20:25:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> i did kick fishy ass this morning
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[20:28:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, full comment history on your info page is one of the very few subscriber perks
[20:33:41] <cmn32480> #smake the wife and kids for napping during the day
[20:33:41] * MrPlow smakes the wife and kids for napping during the day upside the head with a dropbear
[20:35:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://www.cnet.com
[20:35:30] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[20:35:55] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[20:49:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - No-Fuel Aircraft Completes Circumnavigation of the Globe - http://sylnt.us - cell-of-an-achievement,-captain-piccard
[21:18:14] <paulej72> plorb
[21:18:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, precisely
[21:20:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i got like an hour n change to kill before i can escape family
[21:21:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... think i may fix up the #sammich command
[21:37:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> #quit
[21:37:20] <MrPlow> Your wish is my command...
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[21:38:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> #sammich
[21:38:32] * MrPlow whips up a sammich for TheMightyBuzzard
[21:38:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[21:38:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, right, forgot that
[21:38:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> #quit
[21:38:48] <MrPlow> Your wish is my command...
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[21:39:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> #sammich
[21:39:04] <MrPlow> No sammiches in the database, add some.
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[21:39:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm?! weird
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[21:40:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> #sammichadd vibrating rooster
[21:40:02] <MrPlow> "vibrating rooster" added.
[21:40:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> #sammich
[21:40:06] * MrPlow whips up a vibrating rooster sammich for TheMightyBuzzard
[21:40:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> #sammichadd spam
[21:40:44] <MrPlow> "spam" added.
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[21:41:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, ^^
[21:55:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> #sammichadd stripper
[21:55:27] <MrPlow> "stripper" added.
[22:20:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jupiter's Great Red Spot is Heating the Planet's Upper Atmosphere - http://sylnt.us - hot-spot-twice-as-large-as-Earth
[22:25:05] <Naze> woops
[22:40:42] <cmn32480> #sammich'
[22:40:42] * MrPlow whips up a roast beef and swiss with pickles sammich for cmn32480
[22:41:46] <Naze> bangin
[22:45:58] <cmn32480> #sammich
[22:45:58] * MrPlow whips up a vegetarian combo sammich for cmn32480
[22:46:14] <Naze> maybe with the right mood
[22:47:38] <cmn32480> #sammich
[22:47:38] * MrPlow whips up a vibrating rooster sammich for cmn32480
[22:47:48] <Naze> lol
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[22:47:52] <cmn32480> #sammich
[22:47:52] * MrPlow whips up a vegetarian combo sammich for cmn32480
[22:47:55] <cmn32480> #sammich
[22:47:55] * MrPlow whips up a vibrating rooster sammich for cmn32480
[22:47:58] <cmn32480> #sammich
[22:47:58] * MrPlow whips up a leftover Thanksgiving dinner sammich for cmn32480
[22:48:05] <Naze> bored?
[22:48:09] <cmn32480> yes
[22:48:11] <cmn32480> and hungry
[22:48:17] <Naze> Just ate
[22:48:21] <cmn32480> speaking of.. need to go get dinner
[22:48:25] <Naze> ;)
[22:48:45] <cmn32480> kids are squealing about being hungry adn I need to fed them... or this house gets ugly!
[22:49:04] <Naze> lol
[22:49:14] <Naze> wew, no kids here
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[23:08:39] <JNCF> I saw this submission about Trump calling for Russia to hack into Clinton's missing email: https://soylentnews.org
[23:08:45] <systemd> ^ 03SN Submission by mendax: Donald Trump Calls on Russia to Find Hillary Clinton’s Missing Emails
[23:08:52] <JNCF> If that gets accepted, it might be worth mentioning that Trump has since stated that the remarks were sarcastic. Something like this would do fine:
[23:08:57] <JNCF> Trump claims that <a href="https://www.rt.com/usa/353758-trump-sarcastic-russia-emails/">the remarks were sarcastic.</a>
[23:08:58] <systemd> ^ 03‘Of course I’m being sarcastic’: MSM misses Trump’s joke on Russia Hillary emails — RT America
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[23:10:59] <Deucalion> I'll drop that into #editorial
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