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[02:06:40] <SirFinkus> so these backwoods motherfuckers
[02:06:45] <SirFinkus> put stickers on their beer cans
[02:06:53] <SirFinkus> so you can't tell if they're cold or not
[02:25:41] <chromas> those bastards
[02:26:00] <chromas> Setting back can indicator technology
[02:27:04] <crutchy> yeah! now drunks everywhere will have to like... touch the can to know if its cold!
[02:27:07] <Deucalion> Is that still a thing.. those indicators that turn blue? I remember those from a decade or so back here... personally I always found the hand on can test to be sufficient
[02:27:23] <SirFinkus> only on coors
[02:27:28] <SirFinkus> that's not beer though
[02:27:41] <crutchy> here we have VB
[02:27:52] <SirFinkus> btw, lo Deucalion, how's the transition back to the pound going?
[02:28:11] <crutchy> there's a factory where they pump raw sewerage into cans, and people buy them
[02:28:36] <SirFinkus> what about FAWSTERS: AUSTRALIAN FOR BEER
[02:28:38] <Runaway1956> That factory is in Lisbon I believe
[02:28:39] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, no transition involved, we never adopted the Euro here in Britland.
[02:29:03] <crutchy> fosters is mildly better than vb
[02:29:04] <SirFinkus> I know, my grandmother insisted that it was a big issue when she was spouting off her uninformed opinions about the brexit
[02:29:23] <crutchy> they must have a filter in their raw sewrage pipes
[02:29:33] <Runaway1956> Is Brexit an issue?
[02:29:36] <SirFinkus> I argued with her that they never adopted the euro, but she insisted that she had been to london several times 20 years ago so she knew better than I did
[02:29:45] <SirFinkus> I got sucked into that one
[02:30:08] <crutchy> Runaway1956, its only an issue for londoners, cos they were the only ones that voted against it (from the england mainland anyway)
[02:30:23] * SirFinkus hopes australians don't judge our beers by budweiser
[02:30:30] <SirFinkus> which is Czech btw
[02:30:37] <Deucalion> Stock and currency markets are all over the place following the Brexit but that's just the gamblers and speculators bets working their way out. Give it a couple months to see what the real fallout is.
[02:30:41] <Runaway1956> All this time, I thought Brexit was just a thing.
[02:30:45] <crutchy> aussies don't drink many imported beers. we have plenty of our own sewerage here
[02:31:46] <crutchy> there are some nice beers though. cascade from tasmania, and apparently crown lager is nice, but i reckon it tastes like VB with a different label
[02:31:54] <Runaway1956> That is a polite way of saying that Aussies are full of shit, crutchy?
[02:32:03] <crutchy> Runaway1956, yeah pretty much
[02:33:01] <crutchy> maybe you're supposed to lick the label on a crown lager to make it not taste like VB
[02:34:07] <SirFinkus> I'm also wildly uninformed about the brexit, but it strikes me as something that isn't quite as important as everyone makes it out to be
[02:34:07] <Deucalion> I sense Aus is due a visitation from the micro-brewery renaissance in the next year or two.
[02:34:21] <SirFinkus> I really doubt the UK is going to be a 3rd world country now
[02:34:37] <crutchy> nah we have plenty of nice smaller breweries. just not many people heard of em
[02:34:40] <SirFinkus> shooting anything that looks brown or polish in the streets of London
[02:35:07] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, it's probably more important to the EU project as a whole than to the UK.
[02:35:25] <crutchy> yeah i think eu is much more fucked without the uk than vice versa
[02:35:47] <crutchy> no more BoE to help bail everyone out
[02:36:01] <SirFinkus> I guess it'd be BoG now?
[02:36:22] <Runaway1956> What's wrong with the World Bank doing the bailing?
[02:36:22] <crutchy> BoE = Bank of England
[02:36:34] <SirFinkus> the UK and Germany strike me as the big EU members
[02:36:47] <crutchy> yeah i think so
[02:37:08] <crutchy> wonder how long till europe start calling merkel hitler
[02:37:08] <Deucalion> Early days yet - we will see. BoE held the interest rate this month contra to most speculation that they would reduce. We live in interesting times! (Much better than wishing to live in interesting times)
[02:37:11] <Runaway1956> Don't forget Brussels and it's suburbs!
[02:37:49] <SirFinkus> I think banks are just naturally conservative
[02:37:52] <SirFinkus> CHAAAAAANGE
[02:38:05] <crutchy> banks are, but governments aren't
[02:38:17] <SirFinkus> a bunch of people are going to make a shitload of money off this
[02:38:21] <crutchy> they think taxpayer money grows on trees
[02:38:55] <crutchy> british companies will
[02:39:06] <crutchy> cos they will get more business from outside europe
[02:39:28] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, which ever way the vote went you can bet someone would be grifting on the FUD that ensued. It sill come out in the wash.
[02:39:39] <Deucalion> will*
[02:41:18] <crutchy> now that pound is a bit lower, british exports will be more competitive and more tourists will be able to afford to visit
[02:41:24] <Deucalion> I find myself in a weird place... trusting BoE more to provide sane guidance over and above the gov't of the day. Lesser ebil and all.
[02:41:54] <SirFinkus> I take comfort in the fact that it's more legitimate since it was a national vote rather than just being decided by politicians
[02:42:01] <SirFinkus> in my opinion anyway
[02:42:09] <crutchy> is BoE private like the Fed?
[02:42:10] <SirFinkus> it has popular support
[02:42:19] <Bytram> crutchy: exports may be lower, but cost of materials will be comparatively MORE expensive.
[02:42:41] <crutchy> Bytram, probably, but materials are generally less of a cost than labour
[02:42:48] <crutchy> labour costs are huge
[02:42:52] <SirFinkus> again, uninformed, but if the UK people wanted it, I can't really argue with that
[02:43:18] <crutchy> Bytram, why do you think china is the manufacturing powerhouse of the world?
[02:43:31] <SirFinkus> assuming the exit was under the same terms as the entrance
[02:43:54] <Deucalion> May evicted all the Cameron cronies. I did not like her stance on privacy and security whilst Home Sec... but dayum, she sure went in there with a machete once PM. Yet to see how that pans out.
[02:44:09] <Runaway1956> Gotta keep in mind that the UK never was a full fledged member, on an equal footing with all the other members
[02:44:26] <Runaway1956> The Brits always insisted on special considerations
[02:44:27] <SirFinkus> you guys scare me on the privacy front
[02:44:38] <Runaway1956> ????????
[02:44:48] <crutchy> Deucalion, we get that sorta shit here too. its always good to know that politicians aren't an entirely protected species and can face the axe like the rest of us :p
[02:44:52] <SirFinkus> the british
[02:45:22] <crutchy> SirFinkus, your bill of rights is just a piece of paper now
[02:45:32] <Runaway1956> The brits surrendered all privacy decades ago - they live under glass like an ant colony
[02:45:38] <crutchy> nobody in your government or police force seems to even know it exists
[02:45:40] <Deucalion> Runaway1956, what are you on about? not "fully fledged"?
[02:45:49] <SirFinkus> my uncle was detained for 24 hours because he had the initials SDS in the UK
[02:46:07] <SirFinkus> apparently that was "student democratic society" or something
[02:46:15] <Runaway1956> From day one, Deucalion, the Brits held out for the right to leave - the right to maintain their own currency
[02:46:18] <Runaway1956> and more
[02:46:31] <cmn32480> and they were smart to do so
[02:46:42] <crutchy> brits still rule straya, so if they fuck up we're gunna be moyty pissed orff
[02:46:53] <Runaway1956> Does Greece have the right to withdraw from the EU?
[02:46:55] <SirFinkus> luckily, he knew some people sufficiently important to clear it up with some strategic phone calls
[02:47:02] <crutchy> gawd save the kween!
[02:47:05] <Deucalion> Yah... and as it has become apparent that may have been a wise thing to do. Given we like to keep London as a major financial trading city
[02:47:18] <SirFinkus> the right? if they leave, what's the eu actually going to do?
[02:47:24] <SirFinkus> greece is fucked anyway
[02:47:37] <Runaway1956> So, you're going to deport all the Muslims, Deucalion ???
[02:47:37] <crutchy> Runaway1956, greece isn't even a country anymore. its just a province of brussels
[02:47:43] <SirFinkus> if they left and they sanctioned them or something, it'd just look like kicking a dog
[02:48:02] <crutchy> brussels is now a city, a country and a continent
[02:48:20] <Deucalion> Runaway1956, Greece could negotiate whatever terms they wanted when joining the EU. They chose to enter, thinking it would be a good thing.
[02:48:30] <crutchy> Runaway1956, i think they want a more aussie immigration system
[02:48:46] <crutchy> if you wanna come in, you gotta dodge the navy first :p
[02:49:18] <Runaway1956> and the shark infested waters
[02:49:35] <SirFinkus> something like "Fuck off, we're full" iirc crutchy
[02:49:36] <crutchy> now now. we also have some dolphins
[02:49:41] <Runaway1956> In Oz, sharks grow fat during an immigration wave
[02:49:41] <Deucalion> Runaway1956, deport Muslims? wtf are you on about?? You clearly have no clue about Britain or the Brits.
[02:49:44] <crutchy> SirFinkus, yup
[02:50:00] <crutchy> if you're not rich or smart, then goto europe
[02:50:02] <SirFinkus> I'd bring beer, would I be allowed in?
[02:50:16] <Runaway1956> No, no clue, Deucalion - keep your Muzzies
[02:50:20] <crutchy> nah. budweiser isn't beer
[02:50:27] <SirFinkus> good beer
[02:50:28] <SirFinkus> fosters
[02:50:32] <SirFinkus> I hear it's australian for beer
[02:50:50] <SirFinkus> please tell me they use that slogan in australia
[02:50:52] <Runaway1956> Fosters is for export, isn't it? Real Aussies don't drink it.
[02:51:18] <crutchy> nah fosters is pretty common in cans and on tap in pubs
[02:51:25] <crutchy> and bottles
[02:51:29] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[02:51:30] <Addyi> ^ 03How to speak Australian
[02:51:37] <Runaway1956> Ahhhh, someone lied to me then
[02:51:43] <SirFinkus> this has got to be embarrassing as fuck
[02:51:50] <SirFinkus> know your limit mate
[02:52:20] <crutchy> Runaway1956, carlton draught is a nice tap beer in pubs
[02:52:24] <crutchy> in victoria anyway
[02:52:31] <crutchy> varies from state to state
[02:56:09] <Deucalion> Runaway1956, I'm sure I'll be running to you for advice when the call to prayer sounds out from the nearest minaret... or maybe that won't actually happen in a place that encourages live and let live values... you know that Christian value... well yeh.. it's not a Christian value, it's a human value. Religion has no place in defining how a country or society runs, but it should be encouraged in all its forms as it provides a skeleton for people
[02:56:09] <Deucalion> to come together and find community, strength and calm.
[02:56:59] <SirFinkus> FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
[02:57:11] <Deucalion> Religion should never be divisive.
[02:57:31] <Deucalion> I'm not even religious and I say this :D
[02:57:44] <SirFinkus> my main problem with religion is that it gets a pass
[02:58:06] <Runaway1956> You're fooling yourself Deucalion
[02:59:29] <Runaway1956> You live in one of two place, according to Muslims - Dar al Islam, or Dar al Harb.
[02:59:59] <Runaway1956> The UK is in "The House of War", not in "The House of Submission"
[03:00:44] <Runaway1956> France is being taught the difference between the two houses.
[03:01:18] <crutchy> Deucalion, same here. religion is a good thing at a local level. churches are always a positive community thing
[03:01:26] <crutchy> but not only one specific church
[03:01:35] <crutchy> mosques and temples and churches n shit
[03:01:42] <SirFinkus> always? bold claim
[03:02:01] <crutchy> not really. nothing is bold ata local level
[03:02:22] <crutchy> its just a small group of people getting together
[03:02:27] <Runaway1956> Running through the streets naked is kinda bold
[03:02:35] <Runaway1956> and that is local
[03:02:53] <crutchy> hmm. yeah but i never heard of any religion encouraging that.. at a local level anyway
[03:03:05] <crutchy> that sounds more political than religious
[03:03:14] <Runaway1956> Which one encourages it at the national level?
[03:03:19] <crutchy> dunno
[03:03:31] <crutchy> don't they all do whacko stuff at national and international levels?
[03:04:05] <crutchy> because it gets less religious and more political there
[03:04:33] <SirFinkus> so, christianity, for instance, even at the local level, encourages people to have beliefs for which they have no evidence
[03:04:46] <SirFinkus> which I believe is directly harmful
[03:04:48] <Runaway1956> I guess - the Catholic Church diddles altar boys, Latter Day Saints diddle little girls, I guess all churches have their idiotsynchrocies
[03:04:48] <crutchy> everyone has beliefs for which there is no evidence
[03:04:56] <crutchy> thats kinda the definition of 'faith'
[03:05:20] <crutchy> i have faith that when i go driving that nobody will run into me, but i have no evidence for it
[03:05:42] <SirFinkus> true, but it's a core tenant of many religions
[03:05:51] <crutchy> faith is common, yes
[03:06:00] <SirFinkus> merely incidental in other social structures
[03:06:03] <Runaway1956> tenet? Or, does faith pay the rent now?
[03:06:15] <SirFinkus> sorry, drunk
[03:06:27] <Runaway1956> Couldn't resist that one SirFinkus
[03:06:34] <SirFinkus> I would have done it too
[03:07:18] * Runaway1956 listens to the thunder
[03:07:28] <Runaway1956> Oh, whoa, that ain't thunder, it's my stomach
[03:07:36] <SirFinkus> also, I lied, I thought it was tenant
[03:07:40] <crutchy> Runaway1956, feed it more beer
[03:07:40] <SirFinkus> thanks for correcting me
[03:07:45] <Deucalion> Runaway1956, you need to get out more. Travel a bit perhaps. Humanity is everywhere, religions are localised on the whole. People are just people wherever you go, the same struggles, the same ups and downs in life... don't believe every whisper in your ear.
[03:07:47] * cmn32480 hands Runaway1956 a hot dog
[03:08:33] <crutchy> Deucalion, i think the problem is that a lot of political activism is blamed on religion
[03:08:40] <crutchy> or performed in the name of religion
[03:08:50] <SirFinkus> Runaway1956 you smug patronizing bastard
[03:09:05] <crutchy> and in that sense, if it is done in the name of relgion it does often seem to 'get a pass'
[03:09:06] <SirFinkus> that was a little smug too Deucalion
[03:09:08] <Deucalion> crutchy, hence why I earlier alluded to church and state being divorced
[03:09:17] <SirFinkus> like those signs I saw in idaho
[03:09:22] <SirFinkus> those family rules ones
[03:10:10] <crutchy> people who do political shit in the name of religion just need to be called out for the political whackjobs that they are and it made known that they aren't acting on behalf of any relgion at all
[03:10:42] <crutchy> and people who blame religion for political shit need to be called out for the political whackjobs that they are too
[03:10:44] <Runaway1956> Deucalion - maybe you think I grew up in Backwoods Arkansas, and never left it?
[03:11:06] <crutchy> if anything politics and state need to be separated
[03:11:09] <Runaway1956> The terror attack in Nice? I walked that mile or so of waterfront.
[03:11:18] <crutchy> cos politics is far more dangerous than relgiion
[03:11:31] <SirFinkus> Runaway1956 actually drove a mile or so too, before being shot by police
[03:11:49] <Runaway1956> I vaguely remember the hosptital where he started crushing people
[03:12:07] <Deucalion> Runaway1956, I have no idea. Are you going to tell me you "travelled" whilst in military service next?
[03:12:28] <Runaway1956> I traveled in the military, and i traveled after the military
[03:12:30] <crutchy> i hear afghanistan is nice this time of year
[03:12:40] <crutchy> plenty of fireworks :p
[03:12:53] <Runaway1956> I'll bet parts of Afghanistan are nice - if you can keep the neighbors at bay
[03:13:05] <SirFinkus> mmm opium
[03:13:20] <crutchy> yeah i can imagine if your part of the force thats bombing their country they probably wouldn't wanna offer you welcome cookies
[03:14:19] <crutchy> unless you mean 'neighbors' as in the friendly fire that is apparently common?
[03:15:11] <Runaway1956> Bomb them into submission - just like Islam does
[03:15:34] <Deucalion> And I am sure most of the goatherders in the region just want to be left the fuck alone without rabid preachers or bombs from above... just raise some goats, spawn some sprogs and generally get on with life in general.
[03:15:37] <crutchy> Islam has bombers now?
[03:15:59] <Runaway1956> The war in Afghanistan never should have been a war - a punitive expedition should have satisfied our lust for blood after 9/11/01
[03:16:14] <crutchy> or a proper investigation
[03:16:30] <Deucalion> or not being vengeful bastards?
[03:16:30] <SirFinkus> the bloodlust was pretty insane
[03:16:42] <Runaway1956> Of course Islam has bombers - their Baby Bombers
[03:17:00] <crutchy> oh i thought only the US military bombed children
[03:17:02] <crutchy> my mistake
[03:17:04] <SirFinkus> oh, that reminds me, I was watching the most retarded shows ever with my family
[03:17:18] <SirFinkus> it was one of those law and order type shows
[03:17:35] <crutchy> aren't there thousands of those now?
[03:17:37] * Deucalion sighs
[03:17:40] <SirFinkus> and some indian doctor was breeding suicide babies
[03:17:44] <SirFinkus> I shit you not
[03:17:46] <Runaway1956> Crutchy - read up on the Paris attack
[03:17:56] <Deucalion> On the internets?
[03:17:58] <SirFinkus> for now reason
[03:18:09] <Runaway1956> and the subway bombing in London
[03:18:09] <crutchy> Runaway1956, i read up on a lot of attacks. including the ones that the US is responsible for
[03:18:36] <Runaway1956> The US isn't the only ones who blow up babies
[03:18:38] <crutchy> like all the drone strikes in pakistan
[03:18:44] <crutchy> that DO kill babies
[03:19:25] <crutchy> dude, not being the only country to not blow up babies aint exactly a trophy
[03:19:55] <crutchy> s/not//2
[03:19:55] <sedctl> <crutchy> dude, not being the only country to blow up babies aint exactly a trophy
[03:19:56] <Runaway1956> But, you do recognize that Islams suicide bombers kill at least as indiscriminately as a drone
[03:20:09] <crutchy> they do. just not as regularly
[03:20:23] <Runaway1956> Actually, more often, I believe
[03:20:30] <crutchy> you believe wrong
[03:20:53] <SirFinkus> is this a contest?
[03:21:00] <SirFinkus> both acts are abhorrent
[03:21:04] <crutchy> they are
[03:21:06] <Runaway1956> Alright - do you have a count for America's dead babies, and a count for Islam's dead babies?
[03:21:29] <crutchy> Runaway1956, the US military has lost count for all the civilians it has killed in pakistan with drones
[03:22:02] <Runaway1956> Correction: The US military never acknowledges killing children
[03:22:03] <crutchy> there are 'estimates'
[03:22:13] <crutchy> actually it does sometimes
[03:22:19] <Deucalion> https://www.youtube.com << as coherent as Runaway1956 :D :D Fucking Islamist Muslamic Rayguns!!!
[03:22:19] <Addyi> ^ 03Funny EDL Interview - Incoherent Anger, Muslamic Infidels - YouTube
[03:23:04] <SirFinkus> can we talk about beer again?
[03:23:06] <crutchy> and there is that infamous quote by madeline albright
[03:23:07] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[03:23:08] <Addyi> ^ 03Is the price worth it - YouTube
[03:23:27] <SirFinkus> I've killed 2 beers so far tonight
[03:23:40] <SirFinkus> they weren't drone strikes
[03:23:45] <SirFinkus> maybe suicide bombs
[03:23:55] <crutchy> no. cos letting children starve is way better than bombs
[03:24:05] <crutchy> :p
[03:24:12] <Deucalion> I may have sacrificed a few more than that... they went calmly and with dignity into the long dark night
[03:24:31] <Deucalion> Then again... maybe not
[03:24:44] <crutchy> Deucalion, that's just cos yer a pom. you guys can make anythign dignified lol
[03:25:03] <Runaway1956> @ Albright - the price is always reasonable when the other people are paying that price
[03:25:39] <Deucalion> Yup... just say it it with a posh accent... seems dignified as long as you have a moustache and don't move the upper lip
[03:26:06] <crutchy> hmm. that is till you realise that monty python and snatch came out of there too :/
[03:26:55] <crutchy> 'do you know what nemeishish meansh?"
[03:27:22] <Deucalion> gotta keep people on their toes when it comes to assessing whether something is said in seriousness or not :D
[03:27:33] <Deucalion> nemesis ?
[03:27:50] <Deucalion> arch-enemy type thing?
[03:28:18] <crutchy> even your thugs have dignity :p
[03:28:18] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[03:28:19] <Addyi> ^ 03Bullettooth Tony - Snatch - YouTube
[03:28:46] * SirFinkus has a new 500gb drive to install in his EEE
[03:28:47] <Deucalion> London thuggery went away about 20 years ago
[03:28:58] <SirFinkus> but I'm too lazy
[03:29:10] <crutchy> whats a EEE?
[03:29:10] <SirFinkus> I have to find my little screwdriver
[03:29:29] <crutchy> i been meaning to play civ5 for a bit, but i really can't be fked
[03:29:30] * SirFinkus really wish they still made them
[03:29:39] <SirFinkus> awesome machines
[03:29:45] <crutchy> little screwdrivers?
[03:29:53] <SirFinkus> no, EEEs
[03:29:58] <crutchy> oh
[03:30:01] <crutchy> ~g EEE
[03:30:03] <exec> [google] https://eee.uci.edu
[03:30:03] <SirFinkus> but little screwdrivers are pretty neat
[03:30:25] <crutchy> yeah. i'd be stuffed without my kit of precisions
[03:30:41] * Deucalion has a body to install into the comfortable sleeping platform with upper feather filled insulative layer. Night all o/
[03:30:59] <crutchy> cheers mate o/
[03:31:14] <SirFinkus> https://www.asus.com
[03:31:15] <Addyi> ^ 03Eee PC 1000H | Notebooks | ASUS Global
[03:31:15] <crutchy> i'll try not to stink up this nice sunday too much for ya
[03:31:18] <SirFinkus> like this crutchy
[03:31:56] <SirFinkus> cheap as chips awesome little linux laptops
[03:32:04] <crutchy> oh yeah
[03:32:04] <SirFinkus> with great battery life
[03:32:10] <SirFinkus> but tablets killed them
[03:32:19] <crutchy> used to work with one of those when i did flight testing years ago
[03:32:29] <SirFinkus> I broke the screen on mine, and I miss the little fucker
[03:32:32] <SirFinkus> now it's a headless thing
[03:32:39] <crutchy> could be held up onto a panel with velcro :p
[03:32:40] <SirFinkus> durable as fuck
[03:32:51] <SirFinkus> so you could just not give a fuck about them
[03:32:54] <SirFinkus> toss them around
[03:33:12] <crutchy> was a very handy data logger
[03:33:23] <SirFinkus> lots of ports too for a little laptop
[03:34:07] <SirFinkus> I think the only thing close these days are the chromebooks, but it's just not the same
[03:34:15] <crutchy> we multiplexed everything with usb, so we could get in the aircraft and just plug in power and one usb and we were set
[03:34:58] <SirFinkus> good pornboxes too
[03:35:01] <crutchy> they were pretty neat little things
[03:35:36] <crutchy> i guess nowadays if i were in the same boat i'd probably flash a tablet or something
[03:35:44] <crutchy> apparently can get debian onto a tablet
[03:35:59] <SirFinkus> yeah, but fuck that
[03:36:00] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[03:36:02] <SirFinkus> no ethernet
[03:36:02] * exec brazenly fires a purse of snack bar at #soylent
[03:36:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Neuroscientist Discovers he is a Psychopath - http://sylnt.us - and-told-the-world
[03:36:06] <SirFinkus> no usb really
[03:36:08] <SirFinkus> no keyboard
[03:36:32] <crutchy> true. though i think the charging plug can be adapted to a few things
[03:36:43] <crutchy> ~g'night cmn32480 o/
[03:36:44] <SirFinkus> yeah, but that's a pita
[03:36:46] * exec metrosexually poops a chest of rainbows for cmn32480
[03:36:48] <SirFinkus> night cmn32480
[03:37:04] <crutchy> yeah its kinda applish
[03:37:12] <crutchy> proprietary plugs
[03:37:40] <SirFinkus> apple laptops have moved away from that though
[03:37:47] <SirFinkus> they just don't have any plugs these days
[03:37:55] <crutchy> for me if it aint headless it has as many screens as possible :p
[03:38:27] * SirFinkus curses the 2 usb ports on his macbook
[03:39:27] <crutchy> apparently new macbooks here are *really* expensive
[03:39:40] <crutchy> like, to the point where even mac fanbois can't really afford them
[03:40:10] <crutchy> AU$3k+ or something for the decent one
[03:40:11] <SirFinkus> usb aside, I've been extremely happy with my rmbp
[03:42:01] <crutchy> http://www.apple.com
[03:42:02] <Addyi> ^ 03Buy MacBook Pro - Apple (AU)
[03:42:14] <crutchy> the top end macbook pro is AUD$3800
[03:42:20] <SirFinkus> how much is that in real money?
[03:42:33] <crutchy> ~convert 3800 aud usd
[03:42:34] <exec> 033800 AUD = 2877.7400 USD
[03:42:40] <SirFinkus> good christ
[03:42:54] <SirFinkus> ~convert 3099 aud usd
[03:42:55] <exec> 033099 AUD = 2346.8727 USD
[03:43:25] <crutchy> lower aussie dollar is hurting imports
[03:43:35] <crutchy> actually thats probably not really that bad
[03:43:38] <SirFinkus> the mbp is not quite as bad
[03:44:11] <SirFinkus> it's the flash that gets ya
[03:44:34] <SirFinkus> err, the 15 incher I mean
[03:44:52] <SirFinkus> oh wait, I'm dumb
[03:45:32] <SirFinkus> that's not the top end btw
[03:46:16] <SirFinkus> ~covert 4920 aud usd
[03:46:27] <SirFinkus> ~convert 4920 aud usd
[03:46:28] <crutchy> the lowest end of either macbook or macbook pro here is AU$1,999
[03:46:28] <exec> 034920 AUD = 3725.9160 USD
[03:46:49] <crutchy> a lot of people just can't justify that, no matter how good they are
[03:48:31] <crutchy> though a guy i work with missus who works as a teacher and has always used macbooks supplied by the department of education still wants to salary sacrifice for a new one cos the dept. of ed has changed to some other brand
[03:49:08] <crutchy> but they might ned up going for a different one too. cos its pretty steep for a teachers salary here
[03:49:27] <SirFinkus> I can understand that to an extent, they give pretty steep discounts to educators
[03:49:47] <SirFinkus> and they are (at least mine is) nice laptops
[03:50:08] <crutchy> if the department of education can't afford them then the rest of us are pretty fked
[03:50:46] <crutchy> yup another guy i work with uses a macbook pro at work. very nice machine
[03:51:02] <crutchy> warms up a bit though
[03:51:04] <SirFinkus> the screen got me
[03:51:28] <SirFinkus> nobody else seems to give a shit about ppi on screens
[03:51:46] <SirFinkus> except, bizarrely, phone manufacturers
[03:51:53] <crutchy> nice screens are nice, but i prefer number of pixels to size
[03:52:01] <Runaway1956> pixels per inch?
[03:52:04] <SirFinkus> yes
[03:52:19] <Runaway1956> How many pixies can dance on the head of a pin?
[03:52:21] <SirFinkus> I'd been looking for higher ppi screens for years before the rmbp came out
[03:52:29] <crutchy> my eyes are used to 96 dpi
[03:52:36] <crutchy> anything else is just a bonus
[03:53:00] <SirFinkus> 200 for a laptop like mine seems to be the sweet spot
[03:53:13] <SirFinkus> for a desktop monitor, I'd want 150 minimum
[03:53:25] <Runaway1956> my vision is getting so bad, two or three PPI is sufficient
[03:53:56] * Runaway1956 buys 20 foot monitors then sits back five feet from them
[03:54:00] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[03:54:05] <SirFinkus> look at the difference
[03:55:55] <SirFinkus> btw, even that 132 ppi is unusual for most monitors
[03:56:09] <SirFinkus> you get 100 if you're lucky
[03:56:47] * crutchy just measured his... 96 dpi standard
[03:57:19] <SirFinkus> it's a huge difference for text
[03:57:29] <crutchy> anything higher becomes too hard to read
[03:57:43] <crutchy> a guy at work has a high res monitor. fuckin pita
[03:57:50] <crutchy> my eyes aren't that good
[03:58:02] <SirFinkus> that's because windows has garbage ppi support
[03:58:06] <SirFinkus> scaling
[03:58:13] <SirFinkus> better in windows 8+
[03:58:28] <SirFinkus> but still shit
[03:58:45] <crutchy> i like lots of real estate, but enough that i can still read
[03:59:09] * crutchy has 3 screens that are 1920x1080
[03:59:14] <crutchy> makes for a nice workspace
[03:59:23] <SirFinkus> ppi should have nothing to do with the side of onscreen elements
[03:59:33] <SirFinkus> windows and crts fucked that
[03:59:56] <crutchy> dpi is related to size of things on the screen though
[04:00:07] <SirFinkus> nope
[04:00:23] <SirFinkus> windows fuck up
[04:00:26] <crutchy> i just measured my screen... 20 inches across, at 1920 pixels
[04:00:29] <crutchy> = 96 dpi
[04:00:35] <SirFinkus> yes
[04:00:58] <SirFinkus> but things like text should scale independently of monitor resolution
[04:01:07] * Runaway1956 only has two screens 1920 x 1080
[04:01:10] <SirFinkus> icons too
[04:01:17] * Runaway1956 steals crutchy third screen
[04:01:55] <crutchy> i dunno how text and icons are meant to work. default in windows is 96 i guess
[04:03:00] <crutchy> looks like my settings have a 120 dpi option
[04:03:28] <crutchy> ooh. you can do a custom dpi as well
[04:03:41] <SirFinkus> it's just resolution
[04:03:53] <SirFinkus> the image reflects the same thing, it's just more detailed
[04:03:59] <SirFinkus> like the image I linked
[04:04:21] <SirFinkus> the dpi setting in windows should be set to your actual ppi of your monitor
[04:04:26] <crutchy> i think the screen resolution stays the same. the custom dpi setting just seems to affect text
[04:04:54] <crutchy> yeah it is by default, but it can be overriden. for people with eyesight problems i guess
[04:04:59] <crutchy> like me :p
[04:05:01] <SirFinkus> NO
[04:05:08] <SirFinkus> that's where windows is fucked
[04:05:10] <crutchy> 96 is ok for me though
[04:05:48] <crutchy> but for my physical screen size, 1920x1080 = 96 dpi
[04:06:16] <crutchy> i could reduce it in the screen resolution setting, but moving off native looks pretty shit
[04:06:37] <SirFinkus> resolution and dpi should be your monitor's setting
[04:06:57] <SirFinkus> windows has a setting (that fucks everything up) that scales text and windows correctly
[04:07:16] <crutchy> my screens are 1920x1080 native, so i'll always use that. if i need bigger text i'd probably use the dpi setting
[04:07:34] <crutchy> or the magnifying glass thingy
[04:07:34] <SirFinkus> which is why windows fucked everything
[04:07:39] <SirFinkus> it's the wrong setting
[04:07:47] <crutchy> its probably named wrong yeah
[04:08:02] <crutchy> maybe it should be called 'text magnification' or something
[04:08:15] <SirFinkus> no, it shouldn't
[04:08:59] <SirFinkus> their actual text setting thing should actually work
[04:09:10] <SirFinkus> forgot the actual name of the setting
[04:09:13] <crutchy> oh well. i dunno. i'm generally happy with 96 dpi, which is what mostly gets used fortunately
[04:09:32] <crutchy> except by maybe gamers and graphic artists
[04:09:46] <SirFinkus> https://www.thurrott.com
[04:09:48] <SirFinkus> this shit
[04:10:13] <crutchy> oh dunno. i never seen that
[04:10:26] <crutchy> i only use windows 8 at work, and i never bother fucking around with that stuff
[04:10:41] <crutchy> i use windows xp as host os at home
[04:11:00] <SirFinkus> so basically, my ui is the same size as yours, but twice as detailed
[04:11:35] <crutchy> i'd probably have trouble reading your screen
[04:11:56] <SirFinkus> absolutely not
[04:12:08] <crutchy> unless you blow up the text size
[04:12:21] <SirFinkus> naw, text size would be about the same as yours
[04:12:27] <crutchy> and a 1080p video is gunna look tiny
[04:12:36] <SirFinkus> nope, same size
[04:12:39] <crutchy> unless it is scaled
[04:12:42] <Runaway1956> Playing with the DPI setting on my desktop only seems to change the size of the font
[04:12:42] <crutchy> *upscaled
[04:12:56] <crutchy> Runaway1956, yeah same here
[04:12:58] <SirFinkus> nope, renders at a full 2880x1800
[04:13:10] <SirFinkus> so, compare your screen to a printed book
[04:13:14] <SirFinkus> the text is the same size
[04:13:17] <crutchy> might render at that, but the source video is still only 1080p
[04:13:19] <SirFinkus> but looks better on the book
[04:13:25] <Runaway1956> worse, I'm suddenly not seeing all of the text in this Hexchat window
[04:13:29] <crutchy> so it has to be upscaled
[04:13:35] <Runaway1956> the tail of the sentences just dissapear
[04:14:23] <SirFinkus> Runaway1956 is the best person I've ever met and I think he's amazing and awesome and phenomenal and also I'm a compulsive liar and he's shit
[04:14:39] <SirFinkus> well, 1080p video is
[04:14:45] <SirFinkus> but everything else isn't
[04:15:13] <Runaway1956> heh - compulsive liars
[04:15:14] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com same physical size
[04:15:32] <crutchy> i don't see much point in getting a super high res screen that i have to magnify stuff to make readable
[04:15:38] <SirFinkus> but better readability on the higher ppi
[04:15:42] <SirFinkus> YOU DON'T
[04:15:53] <SirFinkus> are you being a thick motherfucker on purpose crutchy?
[04:16:08] <crutchy> i realise the characters have more dots
[04:16:21] <SirFinkus> THEY'RE THE SAME SIZE
[04:16:27] <SirFinkus> BUY ARE MORE DETAILED
[04:16:28] <crutchy> the dots are smaller
[04:16:37] <SirFinkus> *BUT
[04:16:38] <crutchy> thats the definition of "dots per inch"
[04:17:32] <SirFinkus> IF YOU HAD A 200 PPI SCREEN, AND YOU CHANGED WINDOWS TO USE 200 PPI INSTEAD OF 96, SHIT WOULD BE THE SAME SIZE
[04:17:41] <SirFinkus> REEEEEEEEEE RAAAGEE
[04:17:48] * SirFinkus babbles incoherently
[04:17:55] <Runaway1956> No, Crutchy isn't a thick motherfucker on purpose - he just eats to much
[04:18:07] <SirFinkus> you get it right Runaway1956?
[04:18:15] <crutchy> SirFinkus, but you yourself said that windows ppi change is bullshit
[04:18:21] <SirFinkus> the appeal of perfectly rendered fonts
[04:18:27] <Runaway1956> I simply set things back to default SirFinkus
[04:18:30] <SirFinkus> for the purpose people use it for, it is
[04:18:47] <crutchy> i realise that the top japanese text looks nicer, and is the same size as the text at the bottom, and if i were chinese or japanese that might be important
[04:18:58] <crutchy> i know damn well what ppi really is
[04:18:59] <SirFinkus> or fucking OCD AS FUCK
[04:19:03] * Runaway1956 thinks ppi needs to be set in the xserver rather than just chaning font size
[04:19:04] <SirFinkus> like ME
[04:19:12] <SirFinkus> EXACTLY
[04:19:21] <SirFinkus> except xserver is also shit
[04:19:27] <SirFinkus> I wouldn't impose that on anybody
[04:19:43] <SirFinkus> and I think most window managers just handle that themselves anyway
[04:19:48] <SirFinkus> or try to
[04:19:52] <crutchy> if your eyes see a massive difference between 200dpi and 96dpi on a computer screen, they are obviously much better than mine
[04:20:09] <SirFinkus> you'd notice it too
[04:20:16] * Runaway1956 was seeing a big difference but it sucked
[04:20:21] <SirFinkus> printed page vs word document on your screen
[04:20:34] <crutchy> maybe if i zoomed to 400%
[04:20:44] <crutchy> normal icon text... nope
[04:20:57] <SirFinkus> how blind are you?
[04:21:12] <SirFinkus> not even trolling
[04:21:19] <SirFinkus> because that's fucked up
[04:21:22] <crutchy> blind enough that my eyes perform a little bit of blurring between the pixels for me :p
[04:22:01] <chromas> are you still allowed to drive?
[04:22:33] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i just measured the size of the text under the icons on my desktop... capital letters are physically 2mm high
[04:22:36] <chromas> That 3-dpi comparison graphic was terrible though. no AA on the bottom
[04:22:37] <crutchy> 2mm!
[04:22:58] <crutchy> how much detail are you gunna differentiate in 2mm?
[04:23:04] <chromas> your monitor's probably not 96 dpi though
[04:23:08] <crutchy> it is
[04:23:11] <crutchy> i measured it
[04:23:36] <crutchy> the reason why SirFinkus's example he linked looks obvious is because 3mm isn't 3mm
[04:23:51] <crutchy> if you scale the image down so that 3mm is actually 3mm, the difference would be less noticeable
[04:24:03] <SirFinkus> you're fucking with me crutchy
[04:24:06] <crutchy> nope
[04:24:13] <crutchy> try it
[04:24:37] <chromas> when you zoom out the pixels will blend causing AA though
[04:24:41] <crutchy> scale the image you linked till you can measure it as 3mm with a ruler on your screen
[04:25:26] <chromas> also crutchy, of course you can't tell the difference 'cause your screen can't show the hi-res ones accurately
[04:25:27] <SirFinkus> or I can just drag a window between my 220ppi monitor and my 96 ppi monitor
[04:25:40] * Runaway1956 finds nothing in the Nvidia Xserver settings to adjust ppi
[04:25:47] <crutchy> cos just viewing it as default in the browser, the 3mm length is actually 17mm
[04:26:36] <crutchy> once you get below about 0.1mm, my eyes can't differentiate for shit
[04:26:51] <SirFinkus> I could tell instantly
[04:27:01] <crutchy> your eyes are better than mine then
[04:27:34] <chromas> if you had a 220dpi screen you probably could tell
[04:27:59] <crutchy> i doubt it. and apparently a lot of other people can't too
[04:28:06] <crutchy> that's why retina was kinda blwon off
[04:28:11] <crutchy> *blown
[04:28:21] <chromas> well everyone likes to be blown
[04:28:26] <crutchy> lol yeah
[04:28:29] <crutchy> very true :p
[04:29:39] <SirFinkus> http://imgur.com these are both the exact same size on my screens
[04:29:40] <Addyi> ^ 03Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
[04:29:45] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i think you're the one that might be confused about what dpi is
[04:29:45] <SirFinkus> you can't tell the difference?
[04:30:15] <SirFinkus> about a cm tall
[04:30:23] <crutchy> dude, once is bigger than the other
[04:30:27] <crutchy> are you shitting me?
[04:30:36] <SirFinkus> fuck you crutchy
[04:30:45] <SirFinkus> you got me
[04:30:49] <crutchy> if you showed 2 identically sized images at different resolutions, then get back to me
[04:31:00] <SirFinkus> I fucking hate yo
[04:31:01] <SirFinkus> u
[04:31:17] <crutchy> of course the bigger image is easier to read... it is fucking bigger ffs
[04:31:22] <SirFinkus> go find the nearest stingray and get stabbed in the heart
[04:31:48] <Runaway1956> Multiple displays
[04:31:49] <Runaway1956> The HiDPI setting applies to the whole desktop, so non-HiDPI external displays show everything too large.
[04:32:29] -!- Calhouns_Mice [Calhouns_Mice!~62b0c8c6@ka52-830-964-802.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #Soylent
[04:32:33] <Calhouns_Mice> 'Sup.
[04:32:44] <Runaway1956> PPI are up
[04:32:52] <Calhouns_Mice> What is PPI?
[04:33:07] <Runaway1956> pixels per inch
[04:33:07] <Calhouns_Mice> Price per index?
[04:33:07] <crutchy> SirFinkus, the first image you linked with equal sized text at different resolutions was a valid comparison. the last one was bullshit
[04:33:31] <Calhouns_Mice> crutch dawg, fink, runaway
[04:33:40] <crutchy> aye focker!
[04:33:45] <SirFinkus> fuck yourself crutchy, not falling for it anymore
[04:33:50] <Runaway1956> if your monitor is only capable of 96 ppi then the settings are pretty much meaningless
[04:33:52] <Calhouns_Mice> Ooooohhhhhh!
[04:33:56] <crutchy> SirFinkus, you dunno what dpi is mate
[04:33:59] <crutchy> live with it :p
[04:34:01] <Calhouns_Mice> Fight! FIght!
[04:34:14] <SirFinkus> nope, crutchy is either retarded or trolling
[04:34:16] <SirFinkus> I'm done
[04:34:30] <Runaway1956> he could be both - he's from Oz after all
[04:34:31] <crutchy> get a fucking ruler out mate, and tell me those two images are the same size
[04:34:36] <crutchy> lma
[04:34:37] <crutchy> o
[04:34:49] <Calhouns_Mice> I'm pretty done too....poured concrete today for skeckels.....mixed it myself by hand with NO POWER TOOLS
[04:35:07] <SirFinkus> but hay
[04:35:09] <Calhouns_Mice> Oh fuck did it it hurt, and I'm only 1/3 of the way done.
[04:35:10] <SirFinkus> it's all cool
[04:35:11] <SirFinkus> after all
[04:35:12] <Runaway1956> That's unAmerican Calhoun
[04:35:12] <SirFinkus> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com
[04:35:17] <chromas> manual labor? heathen!
[04:35:29] <crutchy> one has more pixels, but comparing them side by side is stupid
[04:35:44] <Runaway1956> Sure you're not Mexican? Manuel does labor all day and all night for a few pesos
[04:35:45] <SirFinkus> I forgive you crutchy
[04:35:51] * SirFinkus hugs crutchy
[04:35:58] <Calhouns_Mice> Runway, it was downright retarded. Got an eggbeater mixer from Home Depot and used a FUCKING RATCHET to turn it
[04:36:20] <Runaway1956> ROFLMAO - you coulda just mixed the concrete with a hoe
[04:36:23] <SirFinkus> not polite to call mexicans ratchets
[04:36:38] <crutchy> SirFinkus, see this... http://i.imgur.com that is how you compare resolution... when you linked that i actually thought you knew what you were talking about
[04:36:48] <SirFinkus> NOPE
[04:36:50] <SirFinkus> NOT DOING IT
[04:36:59] <crutchy> then you linked this: http://imgur.com
[04:36:59] <Addyi> ^✓* 03Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
[04:37:05] <crutchy> and i was like... errrr
[04:37:08] <Runaway1956> Oh - I thought the "NOPE" meant you didn't know what you were talking about
[04:37:51] <Calhouns_Mice> Quikrete++
[04:37:52] <Bender> karma - quikrete: 1
[04:37:57] <crutchy> at least blow up the samller one to the same size as the larger one
[04:38:06] <crutchy> the shitness will be more obvious then
[04:38:13] <crutchy> and you would have made your point
[04:39:07] <Runaway1956> Can we move on to something else, like the pinhead epidemic in Brazil?
[04:39:13] <Calhouns_Mice> hahahahah!
[04:39:21] <SirFinkus> ok crutchy, how's this? http://i.imgur.com
[04:39:30] <Calhouns_Mice> !grab Runaway1956
[04:39:30] <Bender> Added quote 749
[04:39:39] <crutchy> SirFinkus, kinda ghey
[04:39:46] <crutchy> but i'm not judging mate :p
[04:39:55] <Runaway1956> It has been demonstrated that when women in Brazil rub their genitalia against a prick, the baby's brains run out
[04:40:17] <SirFinkus> is that a zika joke?
[04:40:29] <Runaway1956> What, you think zika is funny?
[04:40:37] <SirFinkus> zika is pretty funny
[04:40:42] <SirFinkus> your joke wasn't though
[04:40:43] <crutchy> maybe it means brizillians have huuuuuge pricks
[04:40:48] <Runaway1956> You make fun of deformed babies?
[04:40:55] -!- Ethanol-fueled [Ethanol-fueled!~62b0c8c6@SectorZeroZeroOne] has joined #Soylent
[04:41:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Har har.
[04:41:14] <SirFinkus> crutchy, they have to be, to penetrate the thick brazilian asses
[04:41:28] <SirFinkus> but they only have a lot of pixels, they aren't actually any bigger physically
[04:41:33] <crutchy> do babies come out of asses in brazil?
[04:41:36] <Runaway1956> It's an imposter people - Ethanol doesn't use his real name
[04:41:46] <Ethanol-fueled> dat mask is legit doe
[04:42:02] * Runaway1956 remembers an episode of biggest losers
[04:42:13] <crutchy> SirFinkus, yeah cos if you have moar pixels it doesn't matter how big it is amirite?
[04:42:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Zika babies should be baborted. It seems like cruelty to force somebody to be born with that condition.
[04:42:14] <Runaway1956> the wife was watching when I walked through
[04:42:24] <Runaway1956> some lard ass was moaning about infertility
[04:42:37] <Runaway1956> I commented that it would take an 18 inch dick to reach through all the fat
[04:42:46] <Runaway1956> Wife was PISSED OFF AT ME for a week
[04:42:52] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahah
[04:43:00] <SirFinkus> that's what turkey basters are for
[04:43:04] <Ethanol-fueled> that's where extenders come in handy.
[04:43:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Some fat white girls don't want to turn to Black guys
[04:43:28] <crutchy> my desktop is 5760x1080, so my screen resolution must be higher than yours cos i has moar pixels, amirite?
[04:43:34] <chromas> they don't want to be single moms?
[04:43:35] <Runaway1956> fat white girls can always buy a damned pony
[04:43:44] <SirFinkus> fuck you crutchy, not falling for the bait again
[04:43:49] <crutchy> lol
[04:43:57] <crutchy> ah well it was fun while it lasted
[04:44:06] <SirFinkus> yer a cunt crutchy
[04:44:12] <crutchy> awww
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[04:44:19] <SirFinkus> but I've met people like that
[04:44:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Aussies have shitposting in their blood.
[04:44:24] <Runaway1956> I'm pretty sure he came from a cunt
[04:44:29] <crutchy> i did
[04:44:31] <Runaway1956> not sure if it was a Brazilian cunt
[04:44:41] <crutchy> i wasn't game to check at the time
[04:45:01] <SirFinkus> they had to cut me out
[04:45:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Me too fink
[04:45:26] <Runaway1956> SirFinkus the big head?
[04:45:47] <SirFinkus> more like big cock, amirite fellas?
[04:45:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Momma has the smile on her belly
[04:46:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, if you're a skinny dude, that usually means that your cock looks bigger in comparison.
[04:46:16] <Runaway1956> The last baby had to be chopped out - he's the one without soft spots in his skull
[04:46:35] <SirFinkus> those zika babies pop right out no problem
[04:46:50] <Ethanol-fueled> They look like Cabbage Patch Kids
[04:46:51] <Runaway1956> LMAO - leaves momma like a virgin, huh?
[04:46:53] <SirFinkus> the mothers probably don't even notice
[04:47:33] * Runaway1956 wonders about slovaks -
[04:47:42] <Runaway1956> do the pinheads still have huge noses?
[04:48:29] * Runaway1956 remembers Polish and Ukrainian girls comparing they guy's nose size to his penis size
[04:49:23] <chromas> so what would a hook nose mean?
[04:49:36] <chromas> that he's circumcised?
[04:49:39] <Runaway1956> probably means you're not a slovak
[04:49:53] * SirFinkus is listening to Stoned Jesus — YFS, from the album The Harvest
[04:50:03] <SirFinkus> ukranian
[04:50:21] <Runaway1956> Huh? Did I spell it wrong?
[04:50:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Not all big noses are hooks. Italians, for example.
[04:50:37] <SirFinkus> I always forget about this band until they come up on shuffle and I wonder "who did this awesome shit?"
[04:50:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Not all hooknoses are Jews. Aztecs, for example.
[04:50:52] <Runaway1956> Roman noses give horsey faces,
[04:50:56] * SirFinkus never claimed to be a speller
[04:51:39] <Runaway1956> I misspell shit more and more often - I just type to damned fast for my brain to keep up
[04:51:55] <Ethanol-fueled> But who has the worst noses? The Jewiest Jews are tied with the Armenians for worst noses.
[04:51:59] <chromas> your brain just need moar dpi
[04:52:10] * Runaway1956 thinks @ 24 wpm and types @ 30 wpm
[04:53:59] <Runaway1956> Nvidia BrServer has no DPI settings
[04:54:42] <Runaway1956> scanning news rss . . . .
[04:54:43] <chromas> what desktop are you usin'?
[04:54:51] * Runaway1956 always knew Methodists were queer
[04:55:34] <Runaway1956> Oh, desktop? Xfce
[04:56:05] <Runaway1956> I have lots of memory, but hate to waste it on the stupid desktop environment
[04:56:42] <Runaway1956> if it requires 3 gig of memory to render the desktop, something is seriously wrong
[04:57:05] <chromas> Does mozilla have a desktop environment?
[04:57:33] <Runaway1956> Mmmmmm - think so - I presume you are talking about MozillaOS
[04:58:25] <Runaway1956> Mozilla browsers have some settings that affect appearance on the desktop, but that doesn't make it an environment
[04:58:46] <chromas> they use up many jiggabytes though
[04:59:10] <Runaway1956> Was that a racist comment? Jiggabytes?
[05:00:12] <Runaway1956> Go Mozilla https://www.youtube.com
[05:00:13] <Addyi> ^ 03Blue Oyster Cult-Godzilla - YouTube
[05:05:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Mozilla is a shit but the alternatives are worse.
[05:05:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Maybe I can rip all the crap out of Chromium when I get some free time.
[05:05:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Jewgle wrote it so it's gonna be tricky.
[05:06:41] <Runaway1956> Why bother? It's already been done with Iron browser - https://www.srware.net
[05:06:42] <Addyi> ^ 03SRWare Iron - The Browser of the Future
[05:07:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Noice. May give that a shot soon.
[05:07:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - More Efficient Perovskite Solar Cells - http://sylnt.us - sun-is-on-the-rise
[05:07:20] <chromas> hm, the only dpi setting I find in xfce is for da fontz
[05:08:27] <Runaway1956> I think that's waht I said a long time ago Chromas
[05:08:48] <Runaway1956> and it just fucks shit up
[05:08:50] <chromas> yeah but now I'm saying it
[05:08:53] <chromas> :D
[05:09:12] <Runaway1956> fekkin' ozzie
[05:09:22] <chromas> might need to restart your login session
[05:09:42] <chromas> so programs do their layout according to the gianter fonts
[05:10:03] <Runaway1956> my religion prohibits voluntarily restarting a session
[05:10:12] <Runaway1956> you gotta reopen everything you want opened
[05:10:24] <chromas> well logout then login
[05:10:35] <chromas> xfce saves sessions right?
[05:10:55] <Runaway1956> Well, if you set it to do so, I think
[05:17:36] <SirFinkus> so I don't have my guitar for a week
[05:17:38] <SirFinkus> last day
[05:17:49] <SirFinkus> I cut my finger and can't use my index finger to play
[05:18:30] <Ethanol-fueled> That's too bad, Fink. But you can persevere. Django Reinhardt only had 2 fingers and he played Jazz, man!
[05:18:59] <SirFinkus> yeah, but he was a gypsy
[05:19:06] <SirFinkus> magic may have been involved
[05:19:47] <Ethanol-fueled> He probably stole a working arm to help him play.
[05:20:37] <SirFinkus> I could make fake fingers like iommi
[05:21:07] <crutchy> or learn to use your feet
[05:21:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, that too. The godfather of metal himself cut off his 'tips cutting sheet metal and still didn't give a fucc
[05:21:15] <crutchy> isn't there people who play guitar with their feet?
[05:21:30] <crutchy> fiik how
[05:22:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Not that I know of, crutchy, besides electronic manipulation of loops and shit.
[05:23:19] <SirFinkus> I know a guitar tech that has thalidomide flippers
[05:24:00] <Ethanol-fueled> !grab SirFinkus
[05:24:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Fucking hilariously dark.
[05:24:00] <Bender> Added quote 750
[05:24:03] <Ethanol-fueled> So how does that tech set up the 'Floyds?
[05:24:39] <SirFinkus> idk, I don't use that gimmicky shit
[05:25:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, with flippers, you're probably limiting your setup options to pins and bone bridges.
[05:25:40] <SirFinkus> I mean, he's employed as a guitar tech, he's gotta be competent
[05:25:59] <SirFinkus> people find ways to work around stuff like that
[05:26:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink - I bet the guy can play some pretty mean slap-bass!
[05:26:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Giving Flea a run for his money etc.
[05:28:59] <SirFinkus> fucking amazon, they're just delaying shipment more and more to try and get people on prime
[05:29:11] <SirFinkus> 6 days ago I ordered some shit
[05:29:17] <SirFinkus> still just sitting there
[05:29:22] <SirFinkus> preparing for shipment
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[05:36:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, Amazon are assholes.
[05:36:36] <Ethanol-fueled> One day, your favored extender is 15 bucks. The next day, it's 40. Except that, with some searching, you can still get one for $15.
[05:37:13] <SirFinkus> well now, you aren't even sure if they're not chinese knock off extenders
[05:37:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink- true, but even extenders have brand names.
[05:38:05] <SirFinkus> they pool inventory with the conterfeit sellers now
[05:38:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Even if those brand names were fraudulent, there's always how effective they are.
[05:38:26] <SirFinkus> even if you order from amazon directly, you might be getting chinese crap
[05:42:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Hey, the real world is no different.
[05:42:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Your supplier can offer you counterfeit ICs
[05:44:25] <Gravis> SirFinkus: it's all chinese crap. the question is if it's the chinese immitation crap
[05:45:59] <Ethanol-fueled> If the extender works, it's not crap.
[05:46:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Those who are willing to pay higher prices, will.
[05:46:41] <Ethanol-fueled> It was posted in some article or something. Maybe even back in the Slashdot days.
[05:49:29] <chromas> Chinese extenders? Does your woman know you're putting a chink in her?
[05:51:18] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, as long as they don't get pregnant, they don't care
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[06:38:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Weird Science Heading to the ISS - http://sylnt.us - space-conscious-experimentation
[08:33:39] <crutchy> ~bewbs
[08:33:45] <crutchy> ~link bewbs
[08:33:46] <exec> └─ "bewbs" not found
[08:34:07] <crutchy> ~macro ~bewbs * privmsg (o Y o)
[08:34:09] <exec> 02 *** macro with trigger "~bewbs" and PRIVMSG command template "(o Y o)" saved
[08:34:13] <crutchy> ~bewbs
[08:34:14] <exec> (o Y o)
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[10:11:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Florida's Slime Coast is a State-Sponsored Disaster - http://sylnt.us - queue-the-Ghostbusters-jokes
[10:17:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~bewbs
[10:17:52] <exec> (o Y o)
[10:18:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> #socialist crutchy
[10:18:06] <MrPlow> crutchy, you're a socialist!
[10:29:17] * TheMightyBuzzard declares it a vidya morning and reboots
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[11:10:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> mkay, hexchat set up on winders so i can talk to you goofy bastards while i vidya
[11:10:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> #socialist crutchy
[11:10:55] <MrPlow> crutchy, you're a socialist!
[11:11:12] <crutchy> ~socialist TheMightyBuzzard
[11:11:13] <exec> TheMightyBuzzard, YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[11:11:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> hows things in upside-down-land?
[11:11:58] <crutchy> cold
[11:13:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather crutchy
[11:13:37] <MrPlow> Today: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the low 50s. Tomorrow: Partly cloudy skies. High 62F. Winds N at 15 to 25 mph.
[11:13:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> lows in the 50s ain't cold, ya whinger
[11:14:52] <crutchy> nah probably not cold for you norhterners
[11:15:13] <crutchy> i'd rather 100+ than low 50's
[11:16:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff. i would too as long as the humidity were low enough.
[11:16:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything over 50% though and i want me a good stiff breeze
[11:16:49] <crutchy> true
[11:16:57] <crutchy> here its usually pretty dry in summer
[11:17:01] <crutchy> bushfire weather
[11:18:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> out in OK as well. here in TN, not so much.
[11:18:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> i get to go out in 90+% humidity and 90+F today and do yard work
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[11:30:15] <Bytram|away> whereto? https://youtu.be
[11:30:16] <Addyi> ^ 03Hungry Jack's | The Pack That Scares Gulls - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[11:30:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram|away
[11:30:39] * exec hideously ejaculates a singularity of 🐂💩 at Bytram|away
[11:30:54] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:30:56] * exec cromulently hangs a trigger warning sign about a cube of popplers on TheMightyBuzzard
[11:31:30] * Bytram knows what Poplars are... fast-growing trees... popplers?
[11:31:40] <Bytram> ~define popplers
[11:31:42] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03popplers: In the 30th century, popplers were served for a while at the Fishy Joe restaurant chain after Captain Turanga Leela and her crew discovered tons of them lying in a hole on some unknown planet. Poppler...
[11:32:13] <Bytram> I guess they are gonna be popular some day?
[11:32:38] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[11:33:09] <Bytram> only 10 centuries from now... I can't wait! :P
[11:33:16] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: how ya be?
[11:33:19] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[11:33:21] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 75°F, cloudy, wind NE at 5 mph, humidity 71% - Sunday scattered thunderstorms (68°F:80°F), Monday mostly sunny (71°F:91°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (63°F:84°F), Wednesday sunny (62°F:76°F)
[11:33:22] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[11:33:23] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 69°F, mostly cloudy, wind N at 7 mph, humidity 87% - Sunday isolated thunderstorms (62°F:76°F), Monday partly cloudy (65°F:84°F), Tuesday mostly sunny (57°F:82°F), Wednesday sunny (59°F:79°F)
[11:33:25] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[11:33:27] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 62°F, cloudy, wind NE at 1 mph, humidity 90% - Sunday scattered thunderstorms (55°F:73°F), Monday scattered thunderstorms (57°F:81°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (48°F:70°F), Wednesday mostly sunny (56°F:79°F)
[11:33:42] <Bytram> sticky weather here
[11:34:00] <jasassin> ~weather sioux falls
[11:34:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, fair. had a nice lazy day of decompression after vacation yesterday. back to fun fun yardwork today
[11:34:01] <exec> 10Sioux Falls, SD, USA - currently 66°F / 19°C, mostly cloudy, wind SE at 8 mph, humidity 87% - Sunday partly cloudy (60°F:86°F / 16°C:30°C), Monday partly cloudy (67°F:86°F / 19°C:30°C), Tuesday scattered thunderstorms (73°F:87°F / 23°C:31°C), Wednesday mostly sunny (73°F:97°F / 23°C:36°C)
[11:34:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather bytram
[11:34:07] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[11:34:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, you ain't got one set
[11:34:23] <Bytram> nod nod
[11:34:55] * Bytram would suggest the preceding queries posted bracket his location
[11:36:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, not gonna redo the db to save multiple locations for folks
[11:38:33] * Bytram does not need multiple locations; just suggesting that one of those three locations I queried is kinda accurate and the others give context, but I generally prefer to minimize specificity about myself online
[11:38:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh, gotcha
[11:39:29] * Bytram observes that enough context and you can figure things out, but kinda like to keep some things obscured
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[11:40:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. i don't care if folks know what town i live in but i don't want em ordering pizzas or swat raids to my house.
[11:50:19] <takyon> fuck me
[11:50:25] <takyon> I want them to swat me with pizzas
[11:50:33] <takyon> oh that's right, you have to pay for them at the door
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[12:01:39] * Bytram suggests that after having dealt with someone who was 'not well' -- there is value in keeping things circumspect -- and let's just leave it at that.
[12:03:24] <takyon> i don't know what you're talking about but I'll remind everyone not to call police for someone you think is suicidal. they will just kill them with SWAT
[12:06:35] <Bytram> Tachyon: see pm
[12:07:10] <Bytram> break time
[12:07:13] <Bytram> biab
[12:09:13] <Tachyon> wrong t
[12:09:18] <Tachyon> Bytram: ^^
[12:12:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Quietly Takes Gag Off Mississippi AG After Wrecking Ads Probe - http://sylnt.us - free-to-tell-the-story
[12:20:50] <Bytram> Tachyon: my bad... sorry!
[12:25:24] <Runaway1956> ~blame
[12:25:25] * exec points at Bytram
[12:26:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, almost downloaded star trek online again then started looking at how complex they'd made it and said hell with it
[12:26:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> it was cool back in the day cause it was simple
[12:27:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> not it has like 6-8 different advancement methods that you gotta use simultaneously
[12:27:15] <Bytram> /me has a flashback to playing 'Trek' as a BASIC text game on a PDP-8
[12:27:39] <Bytram> on a teletype
[12:27:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads
[12:27:51] <Bytram> LOL!
[12:28:28] <Bytram> had to type the game in from a listing and save it to paper tape -- to run, just load the paper tape (at 100 Buad) and then you were ready to roll!
[12:55:46] <Bytram|away> laters folks!
[12:55:52] <Bytram|away> ~gnight #Soylent
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[14:04:42] * Subsentient vomits down TheMightyBuzzard 's throat
[14:04:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Subsentient
[14:04:50] * MrPlow smakes Subsentient upside the head with a rusty trombone
[14:04:57] <Subsentient> $burrito TheMightyBuzzard
[14:05:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> 404
[14:05:05] <Subsentient> fffffuuuu
[14:05:10] <Subsentient> bot not found
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[14:05:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> need to slap him on an always-on connection somewheres
[14:05:34] <Subsentient> $burrito TheMightyBuzzard
[14:05:41] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at TheMightyBuzzard
[14:05:45] <Subsentient> :^D
[14:07:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg. i don't wanna go out and do yard work today but you could almost hide a cat in my grass right now.
[14:08:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> rather be bot coding
[14:09:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> told my lil brother that we had two chuckleheads both writing different init systems in the channel. he was like WTF for
[14:11:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> i informed him that you were both nuts
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[16:51:30] <Runaway1956> TheMightyBuzzard - if you can't hide cats in your lawn, you're working to damned hard
[16:51:47] * Runaway1956 lacks the OCD dysfunction that forces him to mow lawns
[16:52:09] * Runaway1956 can hide horses, goats, and sheep in his "lawn"
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[17:52:30] <Runaway1956> Another breaking news story - not a pretty one either
[17:52:41] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.washingtonpost.com
[17:52:41] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[17:53:06] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[20:18:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Today's Lessons from the London Smog of 1952 - http://sylnt.us - cough-chough-wheeze
[20:45:59] <Subsentient> Been running Debian testing x64 with Epoch lately, got tired of dealing with the compatibility problems with 2 year old SubLinux2.
[20:46:12] <Subsentient> I prefer red hat, but Debian is far more portable, which I really like.
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[23:51:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Three Officers Killed, Three Injured in Baton Rouge Shooting - http://sylnt.us - AGAIN???????