#Soylent | Logs for 2016-06-16

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[00:08:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> joo gots mails
[00:09:41] <takyon_> tanks
[00:12:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> some things ya can skimp on and use household stuff, things i recomend you actually buy are a stopper and an airlock, campden tablets, and acid blend. in descending order of importance.
[00:12:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> the first three really should not be optional.
[00:12:55] <takyon_> the stopper and an S-Bubble airlock are coming with the carboy
[00:13:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent. those work just fine.
[00:13:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus they're fun to watch.
[00:13:33] <takyon_> neato
[00:13:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> bloop... bloop... bloop...
[00:13:53] <takyon_> the new meditation
[00:14:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't wig when it don't start going bloop right after you get the stuff siphoned over into the carboy. it takes a while for it to get back up to speed.
[00:15:03] <takyon_> like week(s) I'm guessing
[00:15:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, but hours for sure.
[00:15:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe half a day even
[00:15:29] <takyon_> I forgot how yeast work
[00:16:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> it'll be going gangbusters in the primary fermenter then be lazying around in the secondary until it gets going again.
[00:16:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> how ya mean?
[00:17:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> "oooh, look, sugar! om nom nom!" *farts out CO2* *pisses alcohol*
[00:18:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[00:18:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[00:18:33] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 63
[00:21:32] <takyon_> I submitted 5 stories today. I think that earns me a break
[00:32:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, ima play a little vidya before bed
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[00:58:02] <SirFinkus> Deucalion: for when you're back on https://www.youtube.com
[00:58:02] <Cripple> ^ 03Update+ Billion Candle Power Xenon Torch Bulb - YouTube
[01:03:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Second Detection of Gravitational Waves Announced by LIGO - http://sylnt.us - surf's-up!
[01:52:40] <Runaway1956> Polio has been eradicated, right?
[01:52:52] <Runaway1956> #submit http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com
[01:52:53] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[01:53:18] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[01:53:18] <Cripple> ^✓ 03SoylentNews Submissions ( https://soylentnews.org )
[01:55:21] <Runaway1956> bear in mind the recent stories on toiletry aroung the world - India and China are still working to get toilets into people's homes
[02:00:15] <Runaway1956> #submit http://www.foxnews.com
[02:00:15] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[02:00:41] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[02:00:41] <Cripple> ^✓ 03SoylentNews Submissions ( https://soylentnews.org )
[02:02:26] <Runaway1956> #submit http://www.foxnews.com
[02:02:26] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[02:02:52] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[02:02:52] <Cripple> ^✓ 03SoylentNews Submissions ( https://soylentnews.org )
[02:06:03] <Runaway1956> Wow - it took a university study to discover that more sex results in more babies
[02:06:15] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.rt.com
[02:06:16] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[02:06:26] <Runaway1956> forgot plowboy doesn't like RT
[02:06:38] <Runaway1956> ~submit https://www.rt.com
[02:07:12] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[02:17:07] <Runaway1956> ~submit https://www.rt.com
[02:17:41] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
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[02:45:06] <Bytram> !uid
[02:45:06] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6262, owned by VincentPrice2016
[02:45:19] * Bytram looks for oversized canines
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[03:05:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CIA Releases Waterboarding Documents; Detainee Would Probably Have Cooperated Before Torture - http://sylnt.us - man's-inhumanity-to-man
[03:12:08] <chromas> Did the CIA have to be waterboarded to get the documents out of 'em?
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[03:17:57] <Barry_Soetoro> http://www.10news.com
[03:17:58] <Cripple> ^ 03Craigslist ad threatens Orlando-style massacre in San Diego - 10News.com KGTV ABC10 San Diego
[03:18:01] <Barry_Soetoro> hahahahaah
[03:18:32] <Barry_Soetoro> It's either some fucking dipshit or a terr'rist trying to get all the cawps to Hillcrest so he can blow someplace else up.
[03:20:16] <Barry_Soetoro> Those Muslim scum bring the fight to SD, there will be mass beatings and destroyings.
[03:22:07] -!- Barry_Soetoro has quit [Client Quit]
[03:23:41] <Bytram> South Dakota?
[03:24:00] <Bytram> those must be some BAD lands!
[03:27:12] <chromas> san diego. home of the ef extension plan and the brown menace
[03:27:35] <Bytram> I thought the menace's name was Dennis?
[03:27:47] <Bytram> ;)
[03:40:36] <Bytram> biab, afk
[04:00:41] <Bytram|away> ~gnight #Soylent
[04:00:43] * exec unjustifiably pesters a staff of jihads with #Soylent
[04:22:29] <chromas> #smakeadd a jihad
[04:22:29] <MrPlow> "a jihad" added.
[04:22:34] <chromas> #smakeadd a thousand jihads
[04:22:34] <MrPlow> "a thousand jihads" added.
[04:22:42] <chromas> #join #test
[04:24:28] <chromas> =o
[04:36:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Baltimore's National Aquarium Announces Plans for Oceanside Dolphin Sanctuary - http://sylnt.us - free-willy
[06:07:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google to Outsource Phone and Email Support - http://sylnt.us - hello-my-name-is-bob
[08:08:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - PlayStation Neo and Xbox "Project Scorpio" to Bring 4K Resolution and VR to Console Gaming - http://sylnt.us - console-ation-prize
[09:40:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Muslim Terrorist Kills French Cop, Wife While Livestreaming on Facebook - http://sylnt.us - what-the-heck-is-wrong-with-people
[09:41:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake chromas
[09:41:59] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a cluebat
[09:45:38] * boru could do with a loan of the cluebat today...
[09:52:06] <crutchy> cluebats are expensive
[09:53:09] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, i made a lib function that uploads to imgur :)
[09:53:35] <boru> Well, some has taken my Hammer of Persuasion, and I don't have a spare LART handy, ergo, some sort of communal cluebat would be appropriate.
[09:53:51] <crutchy> #cluebat boru
[09:53:55] <crutchy> ...
[09:54:31] * crutchy tried to open winamp just then, and somehow a calculator window appeared :/
[09:54:32] * boru casts spell: bot immunity: lvl 10.
[09:54:38] <crutchy> #cluebat crutchy
[09:56:22] <crutchy> ~macro ~cluebat * privmsg
[09:56:22] * crutchy gives %%trailing%% a clue
[09:56:24] <exec> 02 *** macro with trigger "~cluebat" and PRIVMSG command template "
[09:56:24] * exec gives %%trailing%% a clue
[09:56:32] <crutchy> ~cluebat crutchy
[09:56:33] * exec gives crutchy a clue
[09:56:52] <boru> Not a high velocity clue, or a blunt force clue?
[09:57:04] <crutchy> that costs extra
[09:57:26] <boru> I'm more altruistic. Everyone gets a clue.
[09:58:05] <crutchy> used to have a thingy that made it so i could make up little scripts in irc, but i think i disabled it... cos yanno eval is ebil
[09:58:39] <boru> Nonsense. It'd allow everyone to patch your system for you.
[09:59:22] <crutchy> heh. i'll never forget back in 2014 when i thought i was so awesome cos i made shell commands work in irc
[09:59:41] <crutchy> then chromas promptly cat'ed my bots irc password file :p
[10:06:40] * boru chuckles.
[10:06:51] <boru> Is it written in Ruby?
[10:07:21] <boru> The FDML was full of shell injection vulnerabilities with n00bs' ruby modules for a few months. High comedy.
[10:07:34] <boru> "Unit conversion module with remote shell capability"
[10:20:46] <crutchy> almost. php
[10:21:38] <crutchy> nowadays everyone runs shell commands on cmn32480's poota
[10:21:45] <crutchy> ~g'day cmn32480
[10:21:47] * exec ceremoniously writes a fanfic featuring a photograph of can you feel it Mr. Krabs about cmn32480
[10:21:59] <crutchy> ~g mr krabs
[10:22:01] <exec> [google] https://en.wikipedia.org
[10:22:28] <crutchy> oh. yeah that guy sort came to mind. didn't know his name though
[10:46:44] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[10:46:45] <Cripple> ^ 03Everything Apple Announced at WWDC 2016 in 7 Minutes - YouTube
[11:11:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Senate Passes Defense Authorization Bill With Draft for Women Provision - http://sylnt.us - less-selective-selective-service
[11:43:14] <cmn32480> ~gday crutchy
[11:43:16] * exec proverbially offers a dong of words to crutchy
[11:45:32] <crutchy> !g'day cmn32480 sir
[11:45:36] <crutchy> derp
[11:45:41] <crutchy> ~g'day cmn32480 sir
[11:45:43] * exec homogeneously heaps some chewy chunks of fencepost errors on cmn32480
[11:45:52] <cmn32480> hwo goes crutchy
[11:46:05] <crutchy> workin on mud game
[11:46:17] <cmn32480> need more dirt or more water?
[11:46:18] <crutchy> making slow progress
[11:46:33] <crutchy> hmm. little from column A and little from column B
[11:46:38] <cmn32480> ~define mud
[11:46:40] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03MUD: Multiple Username Disorder: A condition that compels those inflicted to create a multitude of aliases on websites such as 'IMDb', in order to praise or defend their own message-board posts --...
[11:46:47] <crutchy> lmao
[11:46:49] <cmn32480> oh... well that cleared that up
[11:46:56] <crutchy> ud++
[11:46:56] <Bender> karma - ud: -1
[11:47:13] <cmn32480> soylent news has some of that too
[11:47:26] <crutchy> no doubt
[11:47:41] <crutchy> my single username barely gets any use though
[11:48:16] <crutchy> AC is a username with Multiple User Disorder :p
[11:49:31] <cmn32480> and very disordered he is!
[11:49:59] <cmn32480> I'm gonna be disappearing in and out... have a 120k oage print job running adn I have to kepe feeding the printers
[11:54:51] <crutchy> damn
[11:55:03] <crutchy> wtf are you printing?
[11:55:12] <crutchy> the source code for healthcare.gov?
[11:55:29] <cmn32480> nah...
[11:55:37] <cmn32480> it's 120k pages of the same thing
[11:55:56] <cmn32480> it's a mailing insert for a client
[11:56:13] <crutchy> something about 'zi germans are your friends! shtalin ish evil!'
[11:56:33] <cmn32480> somethign like that
[11:57:13] <crutchy> don't mind a bit of mindnumbing work occasionally
[11:57:38] <cmn32480> it is definetly that
[13:12:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wrap it up: Condoms may Increase Teen Pregnancy - http://sylnt.us - rubbers-used-to-protect-your-shoes
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[13:47:34] <Runaway1956> breaking new!
[13:47:48] <Runaway1956> ~submit https://www.rt.com
[13:48:21] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[13:48:25] * Runaway1956 thinks that is some funny shit
[13:54:21] <boru> Do they call it 'hacking' as well?
[13:55:12] <Runaway1956> I don't think so , most of Anon know that they aren't "hackers" - but Anon does have some few good hackers
[13:55:55] <Runaway1956> Youtube took the video down. I guess Daesh must have claimed copyright infringement:?
[13:57:50] <boru> Censorship doesn't discriminate.
[13:58:45] <boru> The same reason the 'Boycott Israel' posters were taken down by government lackies around Europe, I suspect; vested interest.
[13:59:24] <Runaway1956> yeah, there is that - SOMEONE is doing business with Daesh, like Turkey for instance
[13:59:33] <boru> The damage control department at google will probably play it off as "we didn't want to endanger our employees".
[14:01:55] <Runaway1956> crazy woman - two rooms away, in the shower, a distance of 35 to 40 feet, she's nattering away about something
[14:02:11] <Runaway1956> All I hear is a buzzing, like Charly Brown's teacher
[14:02:50] <boru> Heh.
[14:02:58] <Runaway1956> At some point in time, she'll "remind" me of something, I'll say "Huh?" And, she'll say, "I TOLD YOU THURSDAY MORNING WHEN YOU CAME IN FROM WORK!"
[14:11:37] <boru> That's what whiteboards are for!
[14:11:50] <boru> Listening not required.
[14:43:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Planetary Resources Signs Investment Agreement With Luxembourg - http://sylnt.us - mine-craft-in-Spaaaaace!
[15:24:02] <Runaway1956> http://www.bbc.com
[15:24:03] <Cripple> ^ 03EgyptAir MS804 plane voice recorder recovered from Med - BBC News
[15:24:44] <Runaway1956> Voice recorder revoered - in pieces? Those things are pretty robust - being busted up, it seems to indicate a missile or bomb or something blew the plane apart
[15:31:51] <SirFinkus> or mayb ur mum sat on it
[15:32:01] <SirFinkus> https://developer.apple.com
[15:32:02] <Cripple> ^ 03Introducing Apple File System - WWDC 2016 - Videos - Apple Developer
[15:39:23] <Runaway1956> Apple file system? If anyone had asked, I would have presumed that Apple HAD their own file system. The only other proprietary system worthy of mention has it's own file system.
[15:39:38] <SirFinkus> yeah, HFS+, but it's junk
[15:40:36] <Runaway1956> Yeah - basically all proprietary file systems are junk. Look at FAT for a prime example - no ownership or rights - if you can read the system, you own it.
[15:40:51] <Runaway1956> NTFS isn't much better
[15:40:52] <SirFinkus> pretty much all filesystems in general are junk
[15:41:07] <SirFinkus> this looks ZFSish
[15:41:22] <SirFinkus> which is one of the few good filesystems
[15:41:44] <SirFinkus> btrfs may be good eventually, but it still isn't stable enough for me
[15:41:50] <Runaway1956> I suppose the most "interesting" news article in my feeds is the minister who was shot in the UK - she actually looks kinda nice
[15:42:24] <Runaway1956> http://www.bbc.com
[15:42:25] <Cripple> ^ 03Jo Cox MP critically injured amid shooting reports - BBC News
[15:42:28] <cmn32480> minister like government or minister like church?
[15:42:32] <SirFinkus> "cox"
[15:42:36] <SirFinkus> no comment
[15:42:45] <cmn32480> never mind then
[15:43:23] <Runaway1956> First photo on that page makes her look pretty old - all the other photos show an attractive young woman
[15:43:54] <SirFinkus> http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk
[15:44:00] <SirFinkus> SHE'S A WITCH!
[15:44:05] <cmn32480> lazy eye....
[15:44:50] <Runaway1956> Heh - my first wife had a lazy eye - she eventually got bitchy, but not a witch
[15:45:31] <SirFinkus> mmmmmmm snapshots
[15:46:58] <Runaway1956> Got none - sorry. The girl was a hottie when I married her. She stayed good looking until I left her. Met her some time later, and she had like five asses stuffed into her blue jeans. I'm thinking, "WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!? I have NEVER banged antyhing that fuckign HUGED!"
[15:47:23] <SirFinkus> I like the guy talking right now, it looks like they normally keep him in a basement
[15:47:27] <SirFinkus> a real troll
[15:47:36] <SirFinkus> so he probably knows what he's talking about
[15:47:58] <Runaway1956> Which guy is talking right now?
[15:48:12] <SirFinkus> idk
[15:48:22] <SirFinkus> his hair is kind of like the mountain in game of thrones
[15:48:30] <SirFinkus> like his head got burned or something
[15:50:06] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[15:52:38] <SirFinkus> haha he's a clutch fan
[15:52:43] <SirFinkus> clutch is awesome
[15:54:02] <cmn32480> Cluthch was a spinoff of Motrohead right?
[15:54:09] <SirFinkus> not sure actually
[15:54:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...I don't think so.
[15:54:19] <cmn32480> I'm rather tired of all that
[15:54:26] <cmn32480> I wheel stop now
[15:54:47] * cmn32480 apologizes for the shitty puns
[15:54:55] <SirFinkus> nope
[15:55:02] <SirFinkus> oh, you were trying to be funny
[15:55:32] <cmn32480> and failing miserably
[15:55:57] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[15:55:58] <Cripple> ^ 03Clutch - A Quick Death in Texas - YouTube
[16:01:01] <Runaway1956> cmn32480 - I was screwing around on the Windows machine the other day - updated the graphics driver to the latest and greatest
[16:01:27] <Runaway1956> It *appears* that my PPD has increased by - ohhhh - maybe 8 or 10 percent
[16:01:39] <SirFinkus> noice
[16:01:53] <cmn32480> interesting
[16:01:59] <Runaway1956> of course, I had a power outage here, which blew my PPD away for awhile . . . all the same, it's gone up a wee bit
[16:02:02] <cmn32480> NVidia?
[16:02:15] <Runaway1956> Yeah - I've got the 780TI
[16:02:36] <cmn32480> what version of the driver?
[16:02:55] <Runaway1956> I think it was 364 driver I installed, I was running 352, and afraid to upgrade it
[16:03:44] <Runaway1956> the 352 was quite reliable, and i know that *sometimes* upgrades go haywire - although less so on Windows than on Linux
[16:04:00] <Runaway1956> But, I finally couldnt' resist the temptation
[16:04:40] <cmn32480> 368 is current
[16:04:52] <Runaway1956> Now, disclaimer:
[16:04:57] <cmn32480> I'm on 365..10
[16:05:11] <Runaway1956> It's possible that I've just got some easier work units since installing the new driver -
[16:05:29] <Runaway1956> Some WU make a lot of points, others just don't make as many points
[16:09:08] <Web_weasel> <Web_weasel> BREAKING NEWS
[16:09:08] <Web_weasel> <Web_weasel> MP SHOT IN THE UK
[16:09:08] <Web_weasel> <Web_weasel> http://www.bbc.com
[16:09:08] <Cripple> ^✓ 03Jo Cox MP critically injured amid shooting reports - BBC News
[16:09:22] <Runaway1956> Sorry - it's 368.39 - I got the latest non-beta when I downloaded it
[16:45:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lock Your Doors: Yellowstone Bears Figure out how to Open Car Doors (VIDEO) - http://sylnt.us - Next-Up: Lockpicking
[16:51:42] <Runaway1956> Latest headline on my news feed - Jo Cox has died.
[16:52:13] <Runaway1956> And, she wasn't even "targeted" by an assassin - she just intervened in an altercation near her clinic
[17:15:25] <Runaway1956> #submit http://www.foxnews.com
[17:15:26] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[17:15:51] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[17:16:44] <Runaway1956> "The folks at Cook Out tell me they gladly feed everybody regardless of political affiliation – Republican or Democrat."
[17:17:12] <Runaway1956> I notice the lack of "independent" in that statement - along with Green, Libertarian, Communist . . . .
[17:44:03] <Runaway1956> Whoa - wait one - the narrative is changing in the Jo Cox murder.
[17:44:17] <Runaway1956> Initial reports were that two men were fighting, when Cox intervened.
[17:44:46] <Runaway1956> Now - it appears that Cox was targeted by a "far right" whacko who wanted to sway the Brexit vote?
[17:44:53] <Runaway1956> Where is truth?
[17:45:00] <Runaway1956> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[17:45:00] <Cripple> ^ 03British lawmaker dies following shooting and stabbing attack that stuns nation - The Washington Post
[17:45:35] <Runaway1956> Maybe this is a case of "Never let a good crisis go unwasted"?
[17:48:13] <SirFinkus> I don't believe the story
[17:48:20] <SirFinkus> there aren't any guns in the UK
[17:48:25] <SirFinkus> and you aren't allowed to carry knives
[17:48:29] <SirFinkus> it's impossible
[17:48:47] <Runaway1956> SirFinkus++
[17:48:47] <Bender> karma - sirfinkus: 40
[17:49:27] <SirFinkus> well, there are guns in the uk
[17:49:29] <SirFinkus> but not handguns
[17:49:43] <Runaway1956> It's time I took my dead ass to bed - later
[18:07:41] <cmn32480> Runaway1956 - looks like a fairly significant increase (anecdotally). I was between 280k-300k ppd, currently showing 325k ppd
[18:08:20] <paulej72> pixels per day?
[18:08:34] <paulej72> that seems like a slow video card
[18:12:18] <cmn32480> pointsper day
[18:12:26] <cmn32480> for our F@H team
[18:12:34] <paulej72> yeah I know
[18:16:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Senator Proposes Tax-For-Organs Exchange to Russian Motorbike Owners - http://sylnt.us - Need-an-organ?-Hit-a-bike!
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[19:20:15] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[19:20:15] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[19:20:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'fookin hot
[19:20:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[19:20:38] <MrPlow> Today: Sun and clouds mixed. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High 96F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph. Tomorrow: Some clouds in the morning will give way to mainly sunny skies for the afternoon. High 92F. Winds NNE at 10 to 15 mph.
[19:21:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> lies! it's 98 out there right now and about 579% humidity
[19:23:58] <SoyCow5838> nothing like a good sweat while pouncing on the keyboard
[19:26:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, i'm only keyboard adjacent today. outside smoking a large piece of pig, some stuffed jalapenos, and the bacon we didn't use to wrap the jalapenos.
[19:27:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> some corn and spicy, cheesy potatoes later.
[19:27:25] <SoyCow5838> damn... I hope there's a cold beer to help you keep an eye on that pork
[19:27:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> there should be but no. it's wine or tea or i have to go to the store.
[19:30:07] <SoyCow5838> sipping wine while smoking a piece of meat for hours on is an interesting mental image ;). ice tea might be more appropriate then. although a white or rose, fresh... darmit it's hot out here too... I'll be bbq'ing some chinook later, will now probably add some apple wood chips :)
[19:31:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> using pecan for the smoking. much better flavor than oak.
[19:32:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> the wine's not really wine though, it's homemade hard cider.
[19:32:52] <SoyCow5838> Haven't tried that yet, I have used apple, mesquite and alder so far. Mesquite is good but can be overpowering. Thing with smoke I find is that it's after it has cooled down that it's better. Right off the bbq or the smoker the taste has not fully developed imho.
[19:33:03] <SoyCow5838> omg smoked sausage links... :9)
[19:33:20] <SoyCow5838> I eat that as charcuterie the next day, so awesome
[19:34:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmmm
[19:35:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> pecan you can use on a large piece of meat for up to 5h without it being overpowering
[19:35:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> come to think of it though, i should probably go check the bacon. it's pretty close to the firebox.
[19:36:17] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[19:36:19] * exec retroactively throws a wine flute of linux at TheMightyBuzzard
[19:36:25] <SoyCow5838> good to know, i'll look for pecan next
[19:38:49] <SoyCow5838> So I have a question for all the good people of SN. Not sure whether it should be an Ask SN, a private chat with some admins etc. but in any case, it's not related to bbq (maybe it should...). I figured I'd try irc first to get a feel of things without running the risk of making an ass of myself
[19:40:36] <cmn32480> we all regularly make asses out of ourselves... we woun't hold it against you
[19:40:41] <cmn32480> probably
[19:40:48] <SoyCow5838> lol. appreciate it.
[19:40:58] <SoyCow5838> I am interested in studying the evolution of the SN community from its inception to the current day. I think that there are many interesting facts about SN that set it aside from other places. I do research on how people use technology to work, play, etc. such as how communities are built, how they survive etc.
[19:41:43] <cmn32480> ok
[19:42:05] <cmn32480> YOu haven't lost me yet, so that is a plus
[19:42:20] <chromas> Also, it's not too far off the topic off BBQs :)
[19:42:21] <SoyCow5838> I think that this could be interesting for SN because it could highlight some interesting things that have been achieved over time. Now, to do that there's a lot of data I can get by scraping SN and running various analyses on the threads, comments etc. However I was thinking that there are other pieces of data that I cannot get easily (e.g., new subs etc.)
[19:42:38] <chromas> From the beginning there was lots of talk of wine/beer brewing and other foodstuffs
[19:42:51] <SoyCow5838> for me, it's interesting because that's what I do. BUt I think that the community might like it too.
[19:43:14] <SoyCow5838> I know, I remember long talks of bacon while people were discussing the domain transfer ;)
[19:44:05] <chromas> SoylentNews is Foodies!
[19:44:09] <cmn32480> mmmmmm bacon....
[19:44:27] <SoyCow5838> Is the bacon ready Mr Buzzard?
[19:44:44] <cmn32480> that's a different channel chromas
[19:46:31] <SoyCow5838> So I guess my question relates to whether there is a possibility to have some sort of access to an offline dump of the SN db or a read-only access in some way. If that's not possible for security/privacy and/or other reasons, I can probably get by through scripting things but again, there is much information that I think I would not be able to gain access to
[19:47:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Whistling Sling Bullets Were Roman Troops' Secret 'Terror Weapon' - http://sylnt.us - fishing-for-an-explanation
[19:48:20] <cmn32480> that is a question that I as a lowly editor could not answer
[19:48:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> SoyCow5838, indeed. and delicious
[19:48:42] * cmn32480 is a bit jealouse of TheMightyBuzzard's bacon
[19:48:46] <SoyCow5838> same here
[19:49:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> no direct db access, no. there's not much in the way of sensitive information in there but there is some.
[19:49:27] <SoyCow5838> I understand that, I figured as much
[19:49:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> pass us along what you're looking for and we can probably get it to you without any personally identifiable information in it though.
[19:50:13] <SoyCow5838> At the same time, I wanted to ask before I would embark on a scripting journey. Maybe things were encrypted/anonymized in a way that could allow me to do some exploration
[19:50:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> running a db query isn't exactly a ton of work.
[19:51:11] <SoyCow5838> True... I could use the VM to figure out how the schema works and pass on some queries or requests to you guys then, thanks. I'll have to think in more detail about what I'd be looking for. This is only an idea i've been toying with so far.
[19:51:28] <SoyCow5838> Nothing concrete yet, but I feel that SN is a pretty cool place nonetheless
[19:51:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> we could probably do that but it'd take searching out all the places that personally identifiable information can get stuck. our logs go to the db too for instance.
[19:52:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> they wouldn't carry CC numbers but they would be able to tie uids to subscription payment values, which some of our users don't want.
[19:52:46] <SoyCow5838> absolutely
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[19:53:40] <SoyCow5838> I am sure that you guys wouldn't be affected by this and I'd be sensible in the way I would code it, but if for example I tried to retrieve the history of stories and their comments it would mean you guys serving extra bandwidth for a machine rather than a human. That's where I also thought direct access could have been handy
[19:54:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i could dump you the stories/comments tables easy enough.
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[19:55:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> mind you they're kinda wonky in their layout. comment text goes in a different table from generic comment entry for instance.
[19:55:20] <SoyCow5838> That could be cool. Even if all I have is a user ID that's plenty for me to assess how people participate. I don't case who is who
[19:55:49] <SoyCow5838> But on a higher level, even the organization of SN with editors, the way the organization is designed and works is interesting
[19:55:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing secret about the uid->username mapping. it's on every comment they leave.
[19:55:57] <SoyCow5838> true
[19:56:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> really though, it'd probably be easier to just scrub personally identifiable info out of a db and let you have a complete-ish dump.
[19:57:27] <SoyCow5838> that's what I was wondering. But I don't want to impose if things are complicated or if that can't be easily fixed with a few simple queries that scrub that data
[19:57:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> or even a vm if you like since i'm fiddling with making a dev one anyway.
[19:58:30] <SoyCow5838> that would be neat. that way a dev would work with a recent db with enough data to test certain things if needed (cue that 400+ comment story)
[19:59:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, if you're going to scrape. please limit it to 1-2 queries per second. serial not parallel. we have iptables set up to limit the number of incoming connections per ip so it'd cause all kinds of errors for you anyway.
[19:59:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you're looking to stuff a story full of comments though. i'd script something up using the api. easier.
[19:59:58] <SoyCow5838> So my objective is to write a research paper with this because that's what I do, but also (because I do use SN on a several times per day basis) to report my findings to SN and who knows, maybe that would be of interest to people as a story or journal entries
[20:00:10] * TheMightyBuzzard nods
[20:00:29] <SoyCow5838> I'd be looking for scraping stuff. No worries, I am used to throttling myself to avoid being banned.
[20:00:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i meant on a vm
[20:01:00] <SoyCow5838> oh ok
[20:01:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> but you're welcome to abuse dev as well. taking abuse is what it's there for.
[20:05:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> drop me an email to remind me or i'll forget. it's my nick @soylentnews.org
[20:07:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, it wouldn't suck to automate a nightly sanitized version of the db and put it up for download. that'd be significantly more work though.
[20:08:13] <SoyCow5838> ok thanks. I gotta go setup my own bbq now but I will send you an email, I appreciate it. Honestly I have no idea where this is going. But I have a feeling that SN is a special place. That's high subjective but it's different from communities that are fully dedicated to one specific topic (harder to maintain), it embraces simplicity.
[20:08:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> and coffee
[20:08:52] <SoyCow5838> and bacon
[20:08:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed
[20:09:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> !karma coffee
[20:09:10] <Bender> karma of coffee is 2678
[20:09:13] <SoyCow5838> Seriously it wasn't a given that SN would survive after its first 3 months or so. The kneejerk reaction that triggered the creation of SN could have fallen flat. And the change of ownership could have screwed things up. And the change after that
[20:09:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> !karma chameleon
[20:09:16] <Bender> karma of chameleon is 6
[20:09:24] <SoyCow5838> !karma bacon
[20:09:34] * TheMightyBuzzard pokes Bender
[20:09:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> !karma bacon
[20:09:37] <Bender> karma of bacon is 309
[20:09:41] <SoyCow5838> noice
[20:09:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, maybe he ignores soycows
[20:09:52] <SoyCow5838> think so
[20:09:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it's prolly higher in ## than here
[20:10:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> was no change of ownership, just management.
[20:10:30] <SoyCow5838> true
[20:10:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> only proper owners are ncommander and matt_. they have stock certificates n everything.
[20:11:08] <SoyCow5838> true, but before them there was barrabas or something like that
[20:11:11] <SoyCow5838> I was referring to that
[20:11:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[20:12:14] <SoyCow5838> In any case, I gotta go. Enjoy your bbq, and thanks for the info. I'll be in touch, we can discuss some of the technicalities via email if that doesn't take too much of your time.
[20:12:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> really, i'd like to see us double our released shares and sell them out to the community but being a publicly traded company is a little more complicated than just issuing some to board members.
[20:12:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, laters
[20:12:44] <SoyCow5838> haha I can imagine! cheers guys!
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[20:13:06] * TheMightyBuzzard taps his chin
[20:14:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> bout 45m before i go checking internal temp of the pig and deciding if i'm hungry enough to eat it now or if i should let it go another couple hours.
[20:30:19] <cmn32480> if someone throws a 9-volt at you, is that assault with a battery?
[20:31:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, i think it has to be a D-cell
[20:32:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> or larger
[20:32:14] <cmn32480> ok
[20:33:22] <cmn32480> ooo
[20:33:37] <cmn32480> one of the ladies in ym office jsut gave me Tabsasco Dark chocolate
[20:34:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> these things, they should never be mixed
[20:35:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo
[20:35:47] <Bender> todo for themightybuzzard: 1) utf8mb4 upgrade 2) filter comments by score in the api 3) latest spam moderations for admin accounts in api 4) make high-comment stories display much faster
[20:37:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> 4 is my huckleberry come tomorrow.
[20:37:12] <paulej72> !todo
[20:37:12] <Bender> todo for paulej72: 1) Kill D2 2) fix all buttons to have proper case. 3) fix bug #68 some links are worn color in comment details 4) style blockquote and see what is up with quote 5) add cvs tag to images 6) have slash use DateTime::TimeZone instead of its built in crap 7) add amin interface for stuff we need to touch in the db like css, menus, and reskey 8) delete todo - 1 more
[20:37:20] <paulej72> !more
[20:37:20] <Bender> list 9) remove embarassing quotes from Bender’s db
[20:37:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think we did 4 already
[20:37:56] <paulej72> yeah
[20:38:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> and most of 1
[20:38:48] <paulej72> yep
[20:39:10] <chromas> You could make the icons be theme-able :D
[20:39:17] <paulej72> Well its quiting time. so I think I'll go home and possible to do some coding
[20:39:30] <paulej72> chromas: yes want that too
[20:39:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, while i got yer ear... whadda ya think of moving all the comment templating into a hardcoded sub? it'd be much faster to render.
[20:39:54] <paulej72> like the one we just deleted form the code
[20:40:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> basically, except up to date.
[20:40:38] <paulej72> you know we could put a switch in so that we could set it to do either based on var
[20:40:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> or based on the comment count of the story
[20:41:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yeah, i think it needs to go back in and get used at least when we have high load stories.
[20:41:52] <paulej72> templates are nice as they can be easily updated on a live system. but suck performance wise
[20:42:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, regexes is awesome but not fast
[20:42:52] <paulej72> bit shitty that we have to put back the code we deleted, but I am up for it.
[20:43:41] <paulej72> ok bbiab as I change venues
[20:44:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i'll do that while i'm figuring out an algorithm to count comments in threaded
[20:44:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i may look at the deleted nested algorithm and steal its thunder
[21:10:36] <paulej72> one potato, two potato, three potato
[21:16:23] <cmn32480> fourl. five potato six potato seven potato or
[21:22:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh yeah, that smoked pepper is gonna burn coming out.
[21:23:20] <paulej72> where there is smoke, there is fire
[21:26:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> that one was hot enough to locate cavities in your teeth by.
[21:27:59] * TheMightyBuzzard declares war upon the displayThread sub
[21:28:17] <chromas> a jihad
[21:28:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed
[21:49:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 300,000 Lakh Children to be Vaccinated After Polio Strain Found in Sewage - http://sylnt.us - watch-your-step
[22:13:45] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:13:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2679
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[22:23:33] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, the steaming banana remains makes me chuckle on this one,,,, https://www.youtube.com
[22:23:34] <Cripple> ^ 03Big Capacitor Safety - YouTube
[22:25:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> water++
[22:25:04] <Bender> karma - water: 31
[22:25:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's fucking HOT
[22:26:09] <Deucalion> The weather or the water?
[22:26:20] <Deucalion> ~g'day crutchy
[22:26:21] * exec brazenly postulates a +1 mace of false promises towards crutchy
[22:27:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> the weather. 97F with >90% humidity
[22:27:19] <crutchy> ~convert 97 F C
[22:27:21] <exec> 0397°F = 36.111°C
[22:27:24] <Deucalion> yuck
[22:27:33] <crutchy> yeah thats kinda warmish
[22:27:40] * crutchy wants that weather :(
[22:27:46] <crutchy> ~weather
[22:27:48] <exec> 12Traralgon VIC - currently 9°C, cloudy, wind E at 10 km/h, humidity 100% - Friday mostly cloudy (8°C:17°C), Saturday cloudy (4°C:12°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (8°C:15°C), Monday scattered showers (5°C:14°C)
[22:27:50] <crutchy> fuck cold
[22:28:07] <Deucalion> screw that... I start melting at ~25C
[22:28:15] <Deucalion> ~weather juggs
[22:28:17] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 58°F / 14°C, mostly cloudy, wind S at 4 mph, humidity 89% - Thursday fog (53°F:65°F / 12°C:18°C), Friday rain (53°F:66°F / 12°C:19°C), Saturday scattered showers (52°F:65°F / 11°C:18°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (56°F:68°F / 13°C:20°C)
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[22:29:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> 58?! commie bastiches. i'd trade one of the roomie's kids for 80.
[22:30:46] <Deucalion> tis 11.30pm... was warmer overnight the last few nights. Now, it's just gone all thundery and rainy... typical summer :D
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[22:52:21] <mythterj> Yes its fake, as is the whole site: http://www.eastasiatribune.com
[22:52:22] <Cripple> ^ 03North Korean Leader Kim Jong-un Dead After Apparent Suicide Attack | East Asia Tribune
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[23:10:27] <cmn32480> ~weather
[23:10:29] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 71°F / 22°C, cloudy, wind E at 8 mph, humidity 81% - Thursday thunderstorm (62°F:77°F / 17°C:25°C), Friday rain (60°F:78°F / 16°C:26°C), Saturday sunny (60°F:81°F / 16°C:27°C), Sunday sunny (61°F:84°F / 16°C:29°C)
[23:10:36] <cmn32480> eat that TheMightyBuzzard
[23:13:23] * cmn32480 wonders how to convert 90% humidity to metric
[23:17:12] <chromas> .9
[23:17:40] <chromas> 90 centiumes
[23:17:51] <chromas> s/u/hu/
[23:17:51] <sedctl> <chromas> 90 centihumes
[23:20:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 3 Lakh Children to be Vaccinated After Polio Strain Found in Sewage - http://sylnt.us - watch-your-step || Older Chromebook Models Approaching Official EoL Date for Pre-Installed OS - http://sylnt.us - now,-install-something-less-limited