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[00:19:43] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[00:19:54] <Bytram> ~gday #soylent
[00:19:56] * exec slowly generates a small script that substitutes a tremendouns number of void pointers for #soylent
[00:20:12] <Bytram> heh, nothing to it! =)
[01:15:19] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[01:15:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> sleepy. didn't get a nap in today.
[01:17:39] <Bytram> nod nod nodding off?
[01:18:24] * Bytram woke @ 0500 and felt awake, until about 0930 when it was time to get ready to go in to work.
[01:19:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nearly and same here
[01:19:37] <Bytram> yep, might explain why I messed up my attempt at a windows update...
[01:19:49] <Bytram> have things set up so that it only checks when I tell it to
[01:20:06] <Bytram> told it to check at 0901 and it was still check ingt when I left for work
[01:20:27] <Bytram> when I got home, found out it took until after 13215 to finish figuring out what updates to offer me
[01:20:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeurg
[01:21:05] <Bytram> save this 'Install Updates' button and figured that was the one that would display the KB #'s and let me choose which ones I wanted
[01:21:06] <Bytram> nope
[01:21:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't bother letting windows update anymore. i just keep the windows boxes/vms offline.
[01:21:21] <Bytram> it just downloadeed every thing and installed 'em
[01:21:32] * Bytram does not ahve that choice atm
[01:21:44] <Bytram> now it's waiting for me to reboot to finish the install
[01:21:55] <Bytram> I've got 37 updates waiting to go.
[01:21:56] <Bytram> :(
[01:22:37] <Bytram> how do I find out how 'safe' each KB is? Do I have to do a web search on every. single. one. ??
[01:22:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[01:22:54] <Bytram> yippee! /s
[01:23:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> just cross yer fingers and let er rip. aside from getting nagged to update to winders 10 it'll prolly be no big whoop
[01:24:18] <Bytram> except for a 50% risk of catching ebola, you should be okay
[01:24:25] <Bytram> right?
[01:24:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[01:24:59] <Bytram> oh, and a d/l of win 10 would eat a whole month's D/L quota for me
[01:25:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, it prolly won't dl win 10, just the update that makes a nag screen for it
[01:29:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, heck with consciousness. ima have a smoke n hit the sack 20m early.
[01:29:53] <chromas> install loonix at work with offline xp vms
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[01:58:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Two Approaches to Enhancing Tomato Flavor - http://sylnt.us - volatile-tomatoes
[02:00:37] <Bytram> well, I'm going to take a chance, reboot my system, and hope those windows updates don't break anything.
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[03:53:33] <Runaway1956> ~tell Bytram https://voat.co
[03:54:09] <Runaway1956> ~tell Bytram to avoid any updates until they are "proven" to be non-lethal
[03:59:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - MPAA to Kill Domain Names at Radix and Donuts Registries - http://sylnt.us - .watch-.movie-.pictures
[05:31:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hacking Gesture-Based Security - http://sylnt.us - touchy-subject
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[06:29:33] <Runaway1956> ~submit https://www.rt.com
[06:30:01] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[06:33:32] <Runaway1956> ~submit https://www.rt.com
[06:34:01] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[06:37:03] * Subsentient hangs himself with soylent server ethernet cables
[06:48:07] <Runaway1956> wow - three in a row from RT -
[06:48:19] <Runaway1956> ~submit https://www.rt.com
[06:48:48] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[06:49:07] <Runaway1956> Subsentient - make sure to put some absorbent rags under you before you hand yourself - no one wants to clean up after you soil yourself
[06:49:38] <Subsentient> Runaway1956: Nah, my last act should be one of deliciousness.
[06:50:05] <Runaway1956> So use some delicious hot pink absorbent rags - or a box of tampons
[06:50:32] <Runaway1956> Why you hanging yourself anyway? Don't you have a contract?
[06:51:06] <Runaway1956> They'll just revive your corpse, or turn you into a zombie, you can't get out of contracts that easily
[07:03:56] <chromas> Subsentient: the cables are virtual :)
[07:29:09] <SirFinkus> why wouldn't you hang yourself? life sucks, and then you die anway
[07:29:11] <SirFinkus> anyway
[07:32:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The 6 Most Idiotic Things in the DEA’s Traveling Drug Exhibit - http://sylnt.us - your-gov't-lying-to-you-yet-again
[07:36:30] <Runaway1956> Of course life sucks. The trick is, to get a skilled sucker to do the sucking for you.
[07:38:16] <Runaway1956> ~submit http://www.reuters.com
[07:38:44] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[07:48:32] <Runaway1956> ~submit http://edition.cnn.com
[07:49:00] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
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[09:34:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Italy Wants to Double Child Benefit to Combat Low Birth Rate - http://sylnt.us - need-for-more-taxpayers
[10:12:08] <Runaway1956> spam submission in the queue - https://soylentnews.org
[10:12:09] <systemd> ^ 03SN Submission by lifewitharoma: Allergic Cough and Cold Oil – Their Unmatched Uses and Benefits
[10:19:02] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[10:19:04] <systemd> ^ 03Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: 911 (HBO) - YouTube
[10:19:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:19:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2573
[10:50:56] <crutchy> ooh apparently there was an an225 transport plane land in perth today
[10:51:25] <cmn32480> and you missed it!
[10:51:31] <crutchy> https://au.news.yahoo.com
[10:51:32] <cmn32480> ~gday crutchy
[10:51:34] <systemd> ^ 03King of the sky - world s biggest plane Antonov lands in Perth - The West Australian
[10:51:35] * exec sneakily inserts a lifetime supply of dongles into crutchy
[10:51:48] <crutchy> i seen the videos. that's about as good as it gets from the other side of the country :p
[10:52:11] <cmn32480> that teeny island?
[10:52:34] <crutchy> yeah we're like the smallest continent. how lame
[10:52:54] * cmn32480 goes to get coffee++ before getting hiself in moar trouble
[10:54:28] <crutchy> http://www.watoday.com.au
[10:54:29] <systemd> ^ 03Antonov An-225 Mriya: Attention Perth it's 'just a plane'
[10:54:40] <crutchy> lol gotta love some of the comments in this one
[10:54:51] <crutchy> "Perth is starved for entertainment. Especially cheap/free entertainment. They'd flock to watch paint dry if it was marketed well."
[10:56:02] <crutchy> sounds like the journo was just pissed off cos he got stuck in traffic
[10:59:38] <cmn32480> lol
[11:00:31] <crutchy> "I was sitting at a winery in the Swan Valley with my wife on Sunday when it flew right over the top of us at low altitude and low speed. Was very impressive, so I had another drink."
[11:02:48] <Runaway1956> You have whineries in Oz? Most whiners in the states have to go to a bar, or stay at home.
[11:02:50] <crutchy> apparently the plane was carrying a 117 tonne generator
[11:03:35] <crutchy> Runaway1956, we aussies are experts at whineries
[11:03:53] <crutchy> we whine about absolutely anything and everything
[11:04:12] <cmn32480> not sure if you learned from us or the other way around....
[11:04:32] <crutchy> its probably like that comment said... not much else to do
[11:04:41] * Runaway1956 suspects that it was a two way communication
[11:04:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> woah, yall done snuck up and started talking
[11:05:07] <crutchy> perth is just one big arse mining town
[11:05:19] <cmn32480> ~g coffee IV
[11:05:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ancient Irish Musical History Found in Modern India - http://sylnt.us - music-to-my-ears
[11:05:22] <exec> [google] https://www.gourmet-coffee.com
[11:05:25] <crutchy> i'm pretty lucky being over here on the mildly populated side of the country
[11:05:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, you need to move to perth. they mine arse.
[11:05:35] <Runaway1956> Kids brought me a splotchy, stained, holy rag, claimed it's a puppy.
[11:05:41] <crutchy> lol
[11:05:50] <cmn32480> let'em keep it
[11:05:51] <Runaway1956> Soaked it in soapy water overnight, sure enough it has legs eyes and ears
[11:05:51] <crutchy> you got a puppy rag!
[11:05:57] * crutchy so soo jealous
[11:06:24] <cmn32480> trade you kids for the puppy
[11:06:39] <crutchy> kids are probably cheaper
[11:06:48] <cmn32480> nah.. mine come as a set
[11:06:49] <Runaway1956> Nahhhh, to damned many kids around here now, and no, they ain't cheap
[11:07:04] <crutchy> pets are fkin expensive
[11:07:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> need nicotine, back in 10
[11:07:12] <cmn32480> at least the dog weill get me my slippers and love me unconditionally
[11:07:19] <Runaway1956> That's why we had kids a quarter century ago - we knew we'd be tired of them by now
[11:07:24] <cmn32480> crutchy - kids aren't????
[11:07:40] <crutchy> kids are somewhat covered by government
[11:07:44] * cmn32480 makes plans to move to the teenyest continent
[11:07:49] <crutchy> lol
[11:07:53] <cmn32480> brb
[11:08:13] <Runaway1956> teenyest continent? New Zealand?
[11:08:28] <crutchy> hmm yeah i guess they're part of australia >;-D
[11:08:54] <crutchy> we're gradually assimilating them
[11:09:09] <crutchy> while china gradually assimilates us :p
[11:09:16] <Runaway1956> Thought they were already ass-imilated - you have the anzacs, right?
[11:09:32] <crutchy> yeah but then cricket tore us apart
[11:09:35] <Runaway1956> You added a whole squad to your company of soldiers
[11:09:52] <crutchy> and rugby
[11:10:03] <Runaway1956> Oh - cricket - shit happens when you allow children to play with sticks and balls
[11:10:08] <crutchy> well we needed something to use as a frontline
[11:10:24] <crutchy> operation 'get behind the new zealanders'
[11:11:04] <Runaway1956> The Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms commision is considering outlawing sticks too - "think of the children"
[11:11:19] <Runaway1956> It will become the ATTF
[11:11:27] <crutchy> pretty sure sticks are govered by The Department of Drop Bears
[11:11:51] <Runaway1956> See? You're years ahead of us in the evolution of society
[11:12:20] <Runaway1956> We don't even have a Department of Sasquatch here
[11:12:41] <crutchy> our roads are governed by The Department of Moving Speed Wombats
[11:13:09] <Runaway1956> Our wombats don't even move, they just lean on shovels . . .
[11:13:32] <crutchy> you don't get pulled over by a wombat patrol. it just flips your car
[11:13:45] <Runaway1956> if you see a wombat without a shovel, he has fallen over, and flops on the ground waiting for a rescue
[11:14:48] <Runaway1956> New York is set to pass a bill, making it illegal to take a shovel away from a wombat - kids are going to be in big trouble when they do it
[11:15:19] <crutchy> look at this. even the baby ones chase people down: https://www.youtube.com
[11:15:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> better
[11:15:21] <systemd> ^ 03Adorable Baby Wombat Runs Towards Camera (Storyful, Animals) - YouTube
[11:16:37] <Runaway1956> Poor little guy must be sick - at that size, he should have leaped on the human and eaten his heart out
[11:17:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, i keep tellin you aussies to MOVE... everything on that continent wants to kill you.
[11:19:08] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[11:19:09] <systemd> ^ 03Wombat attack inside tunnel - YouTube
[11:19:10] <crutchy> lmao
[11:19:21] <crutchy> "Alright guys I have been tracking this human for so long, and now I will catch him with my bare hands"
[11:20:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha!
[11:20:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> must be something in the water. makes everything that drinks it want to fuck with other species.
[11:22:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... do i wanna do parsing for page title and description C style by calculating where each begins and ends myself or do i wanna say fuck it and use a couple regexes?
[11:23:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> the former is faster and lighter come runtime but the latter is quicker to write and probably more accurate
[11:24:55] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:24:57] * exec irresponsibly reticulates an overflowing treasure chest of materia for TheMightyBuzzard
[11:25:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[11:25:04] * exec whole-heartedly hangs a trigger warning sign about a ring buffer of Khyber's AC LEDs on cmn32480
[11:25:18] <cmn32480> you won
[11:25:21] <cmn32480> again
[11:25:33] * TheMightyBuzzard is the champions
[11:26:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[11:26:06] * cmn32480 wishes it were nap time
[11:26:08] <systemd> ^ 03We Are the Champions - Homer Simpson - YouTube
[11:26:37] <Runaway1956> It's nap time when I say it's nap time - so long as the puppy permits it
[11:26:52] <cmn32480> Hail Puppy!
[11:27:26] <Runaway1956> Silly little thing can't eat yet - but she's trying - milk soaked dry food is kicking her ass
[11:27:46] <cmn32480> oh.. .so she si REALLY little
[11:27:55] <Runaway1956> mebbe I get her some canned food . . . bbiab
[11:28:08] <cmn32480> milk in a bowl
[11:28:15] <cmn32480> or from a bottle
[11:29:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, if she can't handle milk-soaked dry food she's too little to be away from momma yet
[11:29:34] <cmn32480> time to question kids abotu where they found her
[11:29:49] <cmn32480> and if there were other puppies and a momma around
[11:30:34] <chromas> check the milkbone cartons
[11:31:19] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $1,684
[11:40:49] <cmn32480> Runaway1956 - any idea on breed, other than "Mutt"
[11:41:33] <Runaway1956> Voracious little thing - ate two whole tablespoons of imitation meat.
[11:42:15] <Runaway1956> Oh - they told me she's Australian sheep dog - maybe I should look up a pic and see if she matches
[11:42:28] <cmn32480> you'ld be hungry too if your stomach was the size of a peanut
[11:42:39] <cmn32480> ~g Austrailian sheep dog
[11:42:42] <exec> [google] dogtime.com/dog-breeds/australian-shepherd
[11:42:49] <cmn32480> betcha crutchy is the expert!
[11:43:37] <Runaway1956> Yeah, I guess she looks like the pics the American Kennel club has of dogs from Oz
[11:44:53] <crutchy> that doesn't look like any dog i seen
[11:45:05] <crutchy> ~g kelpie
[11:45:07] <exec> [google] https://en.wikipedia.org
[11:45:33] <Runaway1956> http://www.akc.org
[11:45:37] <systemd> ^ 03Australian Shepherd History Training/Temperament - American Kennel Club ( http://www.akc.org )
[11:45:47] <Runaway1956> I guess she's red merle, but she has white points
[11:45:55] <crutchy> german shepherds are popular here too
[11:46:45] <Runaway1956> couldn't get her to go potty - I guess she'll shit on me when she's ready
[11:47:16] * crutchy grew up with a beagle. awesome dog
[11:47:17] <cmn32480> eat... walk... pooop.... repeat
[11:48:21] <crutchy> ~border collie
[11:48:26] <crutchy> ~g border collie
[11:48:28] <exec> [google] dogtime.com/dog-breeds/border-collie
[11:48:36] <crutchy> ^also awesome dog :)
[11:48:44] <cmn32480> haver had a dog growing up
[11:48:58] <cmn32480> we did have (for abotu 8 years) a shepard chow mix
[11:49:00] <Runaway1956> She saw some scary cats while outdoors, and strange dogs - can't poop with a bunch of strangers watching
[11:49:00] <cmn32480> he was great
[11:49:22] <cmn32480> very loyal.. but dumb as a stone
[11:49:37] <cmn32480> the seizures got too bad and we had do the right thing
[11:50:15] <crutchy> wholly shyte! https://www.youtube.com
[11:50:16] <systemd> ^ 03Porcupine fighting off SEVENTEEN lions - YouTube
[11:50:29] <crutchy> porcupine++ ftw!
[11:50:29] <Bender> karma - porcupine: 1
[11:51:45] <crutchy> the lions are like "fuck even if we kill this thing, how the fuck are we gunna eat it without stabbing ourselves to death?
[11:52:16] <Runaway1956> Pretty close match here - except she has a splash of dark spots across her back - https://images.duckduckgo.com
[11:52:29] <Runaway1956> and one black ear
[11:52:53] <cmn32480> Runaway1956 - another suggestion... a rag twisted to look like a nipple dipped in milk
[11:53:15] <cmn32480> she'll suckle on it
[11:53:25] <Runaway1956> Oh, she drank the milk off of the dry dog food quickly, but the nuggets hadn't soaked long enough, still hard
[11:53:34] <Runaway1956> but she gobbled that meat byproduct down
[11:53:36] <cmn32480> ahhh
[11:55:08] <Runaway1956> I never did learn to like chows very much - I guess mixed with a shep, they might be alright
[11:55:56] <Runaway1956> I'm more into german sheps, border collies, Siberian huskies, and almost any kind of protective herding dog
[11:56:37] <cmn32480> had a Golden Retriever/Chow mix as well
[11:57:04] <cmn32480> she was awesome.. but she needed more room to run then we had at the time
[11:57:24] <Runaway1956> Long hair, or short hair retriever? I can just imagine a long hair chow mix - no fun at bath time
[11:57:30] <cmn32480> long
[11:57:33] <cmn32480> qand it wasn't
[11:57:36] <Runaway1956> Oh lord
[11:57:47] <cmn32480> Ginger had the whole chow Mane thing going
[11:58:07] <cmn32480> but she was so good with the kids...
[11:58:13] <Runaway1956> sent the wife an email last night, "Can't find the flea shampoo, Matt said that your Nair would work fine"
[11:58:20] <cmn32480> they pulled hair, tail ears, climbed on her...
[11:58:48] <cmn32480> and the worst they ever got was a gigantic purple tounge to the face
[11:59:47] <Runaway1956> Well, Rags is sound asleep on my lap, guess she won't crap on me for awhile
[12:00:20] <cmn32480> and she has a name
[12:00:37] <Runaway1956> She looks like an old rag after all
[12:01:44] <cmn32480> so the kids bring home a new puppy... and Daddy gets to keep it?
[12:02:55] <Runaway1956> Looks that way - apparently the mother died, and this one lonesome puppy was left - and they couldnt' think of anything to do with her but bring her to Dad
[12:03:29] <cmn32480> and the kids are sure of this story
[12:03:36] * cmn32480 asks skeptically
[12:03:39] <Runaway1956> There was something of a minor family crisis last night as well, and I guess I consented to that arrangement to help make peace
[12:04:01] <cmn32480> yer a good man Charlie Brown
[12:04:12] <Runaway1956> Bahhhhh - that or a sucker . . . .
[12:04:23] <cmn32480> littel from column A little from column B
[12:22:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> aright... regexes ftw, bitches
[12:34:45] <chromas> will it keep a list of irc-editable regexes?
[12:35:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads no.
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[12:35:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i suppose it could but i don't particularly want it to
[12:35:44] <chromas> that way you can add moare templates
[12:36:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> at runtime, yeah. but they wouldn't have the benefit of being pre-compiled.
[12:36:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Danger of Overselling Science - http://sylnt.us
[12:38:57] * cmn32480 finishes reading a weekend of backscroll....
[12:39:21] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - I don't complain that much. I'm trying to stretch your horizons.
[12:40:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> horizons suck and should be blocked by trees as often as is practical
[12:41:18] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: to my knowledge, there are no languages that expand a regex at compile-time
[12:41:55] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: they are all processed at run-time
[12:44:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> processed is not the same as compiled. yes, the data is only sifted through at run-time but the regex can be compiled at build-time
[12:46:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> this am useful if you want to stick a regex as a global critter and call it multiple times during the run-time life cycle
[12:47:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> granted you're really not going to save a lot of time by doing so for my purposes. submissions just don't get done that often.
[12:47:54] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: ahh... rust does have a meta-programming ability. are you using the "regex!" macro?
[12:49:08] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: if you aren't, it's not building the code you expect.
[12:49:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah. `static ref TTRE: Regex = Regex::new("blah").unwrap; ` in a lazy_static! block
[12:49:46] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: yeah, that's not any faster
[12:50:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's faster than "blah" being replaced by a variable every run through.
[12:50:16] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: not meta-programming when using Regex::new
[12:50:21] <Gravis> no*
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[12:52:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, the lazy_static block around the definition makes it only be run once
[12:52:22] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: that's purely a run-time optimization, not a compile-time optimization
[12:52:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i'll look into it. i'm all about the unnecessary optimization while you're still coding.
[12:54:07] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you implied your regexes were "being pre-compiled", i'm just telling you that's not true.
[12:54:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i may just read the regex! macro and steal the code from it
[12:55:23] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i'm guessing it's a compiler defined macro, so there's nothing to steal
[12:56:06] <Gravis> otherwise it would have to be a _very_ complex macro
[12:56:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly. it comes in the form of a module you have to include so maybe or maybe not. cheers for the heads up though.
[12:56:42] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: always glad to point out that you are wrong. ;)
[12:57:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, if you mind being wrong while programming you're not going to get very far as a code monkey
[12:58:18] <Gravis> i've moved on to being more of an software architect than a code monkey
[12:58:23] <Gravis> a*
[12:59:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, yeah... it's a lot of bloody code.
[12:59:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're not fooling anyone. you still peel bananas with your feet like the rest of us.
[13:00:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube i wanna be like you
[13:00:22] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[13:00:23] <systemd> ^ 03The Jungle Book - I wanna be like you w/lyrics - YouTube
[13:01:46] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: of course i can, a software architect just thinks more about the best way to make a project while a code monkey just thinks how to get the next task done.
[13:02:59] <Gravis> code monkeys are far more prone to writing hacky code
[13:03:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff. i don't have the luxury of doing just one or the other professionally though.
[13:04:09] <Gravis> lennart is a code monkey. he cranks out a HUGE amount of code rather than actually figuring out the best way to do things.
[13:04:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> no argument here. he's made my init system interesting.
[13:05:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> in the sense of the old chinese curse
[13:05:39] <Gravis> that's a myth but i get your point
[13:06:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> no worries, i've been mythtaken before
[13:08:23] <Gravis> i'm looking to make an entire system that fits on a 1.44MB floppy. the compressed systemd package won't even fit on a floppy.
[13:08:50] <Gravis> the binaries are gigantic
[13:08:53] <cmn32480> that'll be very usefull Gravis
[13:08:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, yeah. it's a wee bit huge.
[13:09:04] <cmn32480> for the 3 or 4 people left who have floppy drives
[13:09:17] <Gravis> cmn32480: yes it will be useful 20 year agos. :P
[13:09:23] <cmn32480> are they the same people what have windows phones?
[13:09:47] * TheMightyBuzzard hides his LS120 drive
[13:09:53] <Gravis> LOL
[13:10:07] <cmn32480> TMB - I have at least 2 working USB floppies in my desk
[13:10:30] <cmn32480> and one that is untested still in the factory sealed box
[13:10:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually i hid that a while back. i've no idea where it is nowadays. prolly in a box in OK
[13:10:55] <Gravis> cmn32480: how about this, i'm looking to make something that will fit nicely on a router with a 4MB flash chip
[13:11:16] <cmn32480> Step 1: Remove System D
[13:11:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> sucky router but point taken.
[13:11:49] <cmn32480> U understood the point Gravis... jsut poking a little fun
[13:12:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> the more room you have on it the more bells n whistles other people can add to your image.
[13:12:07] <Gravis> cmn32480: i know... i'm enjoying taking it literally. :)
[13:12:11] <cmn32480> it is a lofty goal... a fully functional system in that kind of space is tough
[13:12:34] <Gravis> cmn32480: actually, it's not.
[13:12:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, i haven't had a kernel image that would fit on a floppy in quite a while.
[13:13:05] * cmn32480 waits to learn something new so he can go home.
[13:13:10] <cmn32480> PLease splain, Gravis
[13:13:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> too lazy to trim all the fat out these days
[13:13:36] <Gravis> cmn32480: you just need to design the system before trying to throw everything in it and winding up with a zillion partially used libs
[13:14:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> sides, it chaps my ass when i want to add a new piece of hardware and though "i'll never use this shit" n left that driver out at build time
[13:14:29] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i'm working on userland, not kernel
[13:14:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, roger
[13:15:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> still, if it's going on a router fer instance you could leave a LOT of crap out of the kernel and really shrink it down to size.
[13:15:11] <cmn32480> you suggesting removing the stuff you don't need from the libraries?
[13:15:13] <Gravis> i'm also targetting POSIX, not linux specifically
[13:15:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[13:15:32] <cmn32480> GRAVIS IS A BOOK BURNER!
[13:15:54] <Gravis> however, there are macros that will select specialized code for your platform if avaible at compile-time
[13:16:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> lofty goal. good on yas.
[13:16:27] <paulej72> ello all
[13:16:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, boss
[13:17:36] <paulej72> I was going to code yesterday, but I had a killer headache. I think it was just one step below a migrane. I was nauseous and my skull was ponding.
[13:17:46] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: not really, the only time you really need it is for optimizing event systems for the kernel because poll() was never intended to manage 1000s of connections
[13:17:59] <cmn32480> ~gday paulej72
[13:18:01] * exec seductively passes a pair of more cowbell to paulej72
[13:18:06] <cmn32480> sorry to hear you were under the weather
[13:18:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> bummer, feelin better today?
[13:18:39] <cmn32480> the wife had somethign kinda like it.. hers was allergies
[13:18:48] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: it's more about checking to see if the function exists in the POSIX spec before going off and using it than anything else
[13:19:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, truly that does annoy. stupid router. work better with bittorrent, damn yous.
[13:19:34] <paulej72> yeah it took a couple three hours for the alieve to kick in but I was able to go to bed with out the constant pounding in my head and rumble in my tummy
[13:19:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool cool.
[13:20:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> still, better needing a little yellow pill than a little blue one
[13:20:51] * cmn32480 thinks cialis might be yellow....
[13:21:06] * Gravis was totally wondering if anyone was going to mention that.
[13:21:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, quit messin up my joke
[13:22:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, i think i can shave off that else. yay early optimization!
[13:23:25] <Gravis> btw... in the last year, systemd had 1200 issues opened on github
[13:23:41] <Gravis> they closed about 900 of them... so there are 300 open issues still
[13:24:24] <Gravis> the amount of issues left open continues to climb
[13:24:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i will never get how that got included in mainstream distros. you DO NOT put a beta init system on a server that you need to depend on.
[13:25:34] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: it got included due to a web of dependencies that stetches from gnome all the way back to systemd
[13:25:58] <Gravis> red hat is the one who writes a lot of code for gnome, so that's pretty much it
[13:26:41] <Gravis> it do has some useful functionality, so it's not like it was pointless
[13:26:53] <Gravis> does have*
[13:26:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't mind using it on a personal box but fuck me in the goat ass if i'll put it on a server before it's had a decade of being stable
[13:27:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, nicotine time again.
[13:27:54] <Gravis> well it bricked my own VPS because i didn't have /usr on the root partition
[13:28:14] <Gravis> that really pissed me off
[13:33:19] <Runaway1956> Mmmmm - I had a couple crazy things happen to me when I made extra partitions when I first started Linux
[13:33:29] <Runaway1956> Now, I only create / and /home
[13:33:58] <Runaway1956> and /swp and a /tmp in RAM
[13:34:14] <Runaway1956> No more trying to be creative, no matter what the guides say
[13:34:21] <Runaway1956> Don't even need a /boot
[13:35:47] <paulej72> / /swp and /home is all I setup
[13:38:13] <Runaway1956> we think alike, let Linux make it's own default partitions - but I do like that RAM /tmp
[13:38:31] <Gravis> i didn't install this system. however, on a VPS it is pointless to make more than one partition.
[13:39:23] <Gravis> as for my home box, i have / /boot /tmp /usr /var /home
[13:39:31] <paulej72> I only set up a separate home on file/compute servers
[13:40:02] <paulej72> workstations have mounted /home with local home available
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[13:43:02] <Gravis> btw, if you want to use google drive on linux, this is a really nice GUI tool i use. it's commercial but they are doing a give-away: https://www.insynchq.com
[13:43:03] <systemd> ^ 03Free Insync!
[13:43:57] <Gravis> i just use it as a backup for files that matter.
[13:45:36] <Runaway1956> how much tracking does insync do? I never really got into google drive, because I know that Google can see what I'm using it for.
[13:45:59] <Runaway1956> My terror plans that I forwarded to ObL were to sensitive for that kind of shit.
[13:46:09] <cmn32480> as a boy band they've been nothign for about 10 years...
[13:46:35] * Runaway1956 has never understood that whold "boy band" thing
[13:46:53] <Gravis> Runaway1956: to my knowledge they don't do any tracking
[13:47:36] <Gravis> Runaway1956: so... maybe they do tons of it. ;)
[13:47:55] <Runaway1956> Well, maybe, if you don't think they track, I'll put all my DAESH plans there
[13:48:27] <Gravis> i haven't noticed any strange bandwidth usage from it, so if they are tracking, they are keeping it on the DL
[13:48:47] <Runaway1956> Just had a thought - If I were to plot to kill off a bunch of important DAESH people, would the US decide that I was a terrorist?
[13:50:30] <Gravis> Runaway1956: you would be put on a short list if that found shit like that
[13:50:35] <Gravis> they*
[13:51:06] <Runaway1956> Short list sounds good - being a veteran, I despise waiting in line.
[13:51:16] <Gravis> ;)
[13:51:37] <Gravis> Runaway1956: intentions aside, you would be precieved as a threat.
[13:52:09] <Runaway1956> Yeah, that's about what I figured - "Don't be corrupt because the government hates competition."
[13:53:39] <Gravis> more like, "well if he has no qualms about killing those leaders, then he probably has no qualms with killing out leaders"
[13:53:46] <Gravis> our*
[13:54:19] <Runaway1956> That last would be an accurate appraisal, in many cases.
[13:54:44] <Gravis> Runaway1956: and thusly short listed
[13:55:28] <Runaway1956> So, I won't lounge on death row for twenty years - they'll give me a rush job like Timothy McVeigh
[13:56:10] <cmn32480> not if the death penalty article has it's way
[13:56:50] <Gravis> Runaway1956: right, only five years. -_-
[13:56:51] * Runaway1956 thinks Gravis has it right - short list, express service, and damn public opinion
[13:57:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, as a veteran you're already on the short list
[13:57:27] <Gravis> ^
[13:57:30] <Runaway1956> That is true
[13:57:56] * Runaway1956 can probably outshoot 3/4 of the TSA, so that makes me dangerous
[13:58:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's nice to know ahead of time that you're on the list of people who can't be trusted because you served your country
[13:58:36] <cmn32480> only 3/4? losing your touch, eh?
[13:58:53] <Gravis> i'm pretty sure a bucket full of sloths could outshoot most members of the TSA
[13:59:04] <Runaway1956> Well, it's not good to underestimate the enemy - I have to presume that SOME of those fools know how to shoot
[13:59:08] <SirFinkus> you wouldn't need the sloths
[14:00:24] <Gravis> SirFinkus: so... just a bucket? http://funnyand.com
[14:00:34] <Runaway1956> Rags seems to think it's time for another nap - think I'll join her.
[14:00:59] <cmn32480> she go poo yet?
[14:01:19] <Runaway1956> Yeah, she decided that the big ugly Silverado makes a good toilet
[14:01:41] <Runaway1956> I should have lifted her up so that she could poo on the driver's seat
[14:02:02] <cmn32480> yeah.. but her turds can't be THAT big!
[14:02:31] <Runaway1956> That's what would make it so good - little bitty turd, no one notices until they get OUT of the truck
[14:02:50] <cmn32480> enjoy yer nap.. dont' roll over on the puppy
[14:03:02] <SirFinkus> yup
[14:03:04] <Runaway1956> . . .
[14:04:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://fas.org page four. we're potential terrorists.
[14:04:27] <cmn32480> even $$ she pees in his bed
[14:07:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Andre Brahic, Discoverer of Neptune's Rings, Dies - http://sylnt.us
[14:10:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, turns out compile-time compiled regexes are a hell of a lot slower to run than runtime compiled ones because the code compile-time ones hasn't been optimized worth a damn while the code for the dynamic ones has
[14:12:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> and since it looks like ima be using runtime-compiled regexs, i might as well make them dynamically loadable from a file so i don't have to bounce the bot when i add a new way to get a page summary.
[14:12:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, preemptive "shaddup"
[14:12:33] <cmn32480> who, me?
[14:12:51] * cmn32480 polishes his haol
[14:13:36] * cmn32480 doesn't have enough spare cash for a halo brand halo....
[14:14:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> still going to store them in a global vector so's they don't have to be compiled but once each
[14:18:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, fishin looks to be awesome this afternoon. believe i'll do me some of that after i get done playing with the bot.
[14:18:20] <cmn32480> 'nother rough day....
[14:18:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm tellin ya. 20% chance i'll get rained on.
[14:18:53] <cmn32480> whoa... better remember your slicker
[14:19:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'll just beach the boat and bank fish if it starts raining enough to worry about.
[14:20:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> can set out catfish poles and stand under the picnic table awning
[14:50:09] <SirFinkus> blah, some kind of combination of ebola, aids, and consumption is going around my school right now
[14:50:13] <SirFinkus> pretty sure I've got it now
[15:08:06] <cmn32480> been good knowing you SirFinkus
[15:08:28] <SirFinkus> no it hasn't, I'm a miserable human being
[15:08:30] <cmn32480> I hope you die quickly, quietly, and non-contagiously
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[16:04:51] <cmn32480> ~titles on
[16:04:59] <cmn32480> ~title on
[16:05:01] <exec> titles enabled for 10#Soylent
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[16:05:28] <cmn32480> ~sed on
[16:05:29] <exec> sed enabled for 10#Soylent
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[16:06:56] <cmn32480> ~chromas on
[16:07:13] <cmn32480> crutchy must nota written taht one yet
[16:09:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Innovative Traffic Interchanges Help Drivers Avoid Crashes, Save Lives - http://sylnt.us - next-we'll-have-self-driving-cars
[17:40:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Homosexual Activity Documented in Female Gorillas for the First Time - http://sylnt.us - whatever-makes-you-happy
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[18:00:36] <Runaway1956> ~chromas off
[18:00:54] <Runaway1956> I don't guess that works either
[18:01:11] <Runaway1956> ~clap on
[18:01:16] <Runaway1956> ~clap off
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[18:40:21] <cmn32480> you and rags have a nice nap?
[18:48:35] * cmn32480 waits patientely while Runaway1956 detatched the puppy from his slippers
[18:50:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> that could take a while, if the puppy has eaten his slippers.
[18:50:31] <cmn32480> lottta fiber in thos slippers.
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[19:44:32] <cmn32480> ~chromas on
[19:45:08] * chromas blames the merger with time warner
[19:45:17] <cmn32480> IT WORKED!!!!
[19:45:45] * cmn32480 didn't think exec ahdthat command
[19:46:03] <chromas> it's in buttmagic.inc
[19:47:26] <cmn32480> the one place i didn't look
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[19:52:54] <cmn32480> ~title off
[19:52:56] <exec> titles disabled for 10#Soylent
[19:53:07] <chromas> oh yeah. poor exec
[19:53:22] <cmn32480> how so?
[19:53:37] <cmn32480> wasn't liewk there was a ton of chatter since your internets blew themselves up
[19:54:46] <chromas> 'cause another bot crossed the border and took his jerbs
[19:54:56] <cmn32480> is ok
[19:55:04] <cmn32480> his celeron needs a rest anyway
[19:55:17] <exec> he took muh jerb!
[19:55:17] <cmn32480> and I don't think systemd is an illegal bot
[19:55:37] <cmn32480> get in the back of the bus exec
[19:55:55] <chromas> #botlivesmatter
[19:58:40] <cmn32480> nope
[19:59:07] <exec> das racis!
[19:59:12] <cmn32480> yep
[19:59:14] <cmn32480> see
[19:59:18] <cmn32480> watch me kill a bot
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[19:59:53] <cmn32480> see? dedaed
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[20:00:23] <cmn32480> adn now... reborn.. like jesus hisself!
[20:01:11] <exec> I need #feminism because I was killed and the police wouldn't convict
[20:01:37] <exec> killed to death
[20:06:40] <cmn32480> not #feminism... you need #botulism
[20:13:55] <chromas> it's intersectional so it covers everything
[20:15:28] <cmn32480> #feminism is intersexual? whoda thunk it!
[20:15:33] <cmn32480> not me
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[23:13:20] * Subsentient rips a delicious juicy wet one
[23:14:51] <Deucalion> hola - that's pleasant
[23:15:11] * Subsentient offers Deucalion a horse jizz milkshake
[23:15:37] * Deucalion declines the offer
[23:45:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Faces Record 3 Billion Euro EU Antitrust Fine: Telegraph - http://sylnt.us - that's-a-lotta-scratch