#Soylent | Logs for 2016-05-14
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[00:24:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, i'm ready for bed now. is it bedtime yet?
[00:28:05] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: no
[00:28:23] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: it's... 4PEANUT BUTTER GERBIL TIME!!!
[00:28:31] <SirFinkus> more like beer time
[00:28:47] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: no it's... 4PEANUT BUTTER GERBIL TIME!!!
[00:28:58] <SirFinkus> oh fuck you, it's beer time
[00:29:03] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: no it's... 4PEANUT BUTTER GERBIL TIME!!!
[00:29:23] <SirFinkus> if you're going to get between me and my beer, we're going to have words
[00:29:44] <Subsentient> No, we'll have gerbils and peanut butter.
[00:29:46] <Subsentient> Can you read?
[00:30:34] <SirFinkus> you're the one that needs to learn to read
[00:30:39] <SirFinkus> it's clearly beer time
[00:30:45] <SirFinkus> look at the clock
[00:33:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube it's five o'clock somewhere
[00:33:50] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[00:33:52] <systemd> ^ 03Alan Jackson, Jimmy Buffett - It's Five O' Clock Somewhere - YouTube
[00:34:13] <SirFinkus> actually, 5:30 here
[00:34:16] <SirFinkus> so I've already started
[00:37:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i don't have any beer or liquor but i do have some homemade wine
[00:37:23] <SirFinkus> hooch! even better
[00:38:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> yurp, gonna hafta break it out
[00:39:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh yeah baby, it's a jimmy buffet night now
[00:39:24] <SirFinkus> nope, albert collins
[00:39:40] * SirFinkus is listening to Albert Collins — I Ain't Drunk, from the album Deluxe Edition [Song]
[00:40:10] <SirFinkus> EVERY DAY BABY
[00:42:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ♫ but there's booze in the blender / soon it will render / that frozen concoction that helps me hold on ♫
[00:43:11] * chromas still waits for SirFinkus to finish his sentence
[00:43:22] <SirFinkus> when the sun go down
[00:43:39] <SirFinkus> I get with my friends, an' I begin to clown
[00:43:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, definitely gettin my redneck on tonight. drinkin homemade wine from a mason jar.
[00:43:57] <SirFinkus> I don't care, what the people are thinkin'
[00:44:10] <SirFinkus> I ain't drunk, I'm just drinkin
[00:44:40] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[00:44:42] <systemd> ^ 03Albert Collins: I Ain't Drunk - YouTube
[00:44:45] <SirFinkus> best fucking guy
[00:44:53] <SirFinkus> probably my favorite blues guy
[00:45:31] <SirFinkus> but he's dead, so I'lll never see him live
[00:47:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> lot of the best are. the blues is a dying artform.
[00:50:56] <SirFinkus> I wrote a shitty blues song today
[00:51:13] <crutchy> coffee++
[00:51:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2564
[00:51:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> how?
[00:51:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday crutchy
[00:51:25] * exec slowly pairs yo mama of gasoline with crutchy
[00:51:33] <SirFinkus> with a pencil, guitar, and angst
[00:51:54] <crutchy> ~time TheMightyBuzzard
[00:51:56] <exec> Friday, 13 May 2016 @ 7:51 pm CDT - Humboldt, TN 38343, USA
[00:52:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> no i mean how did you write a bad one? didn't you mention downtown and a mean woman what done you wrong?
[00:52:20] <crutchy> weekend ftw!
[00:52:23] <SirFinkus> only the latter
[00:52:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, troof
[00:52:37] <SirFinkus> first part is about trouble
[00:53:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> shame you can't really score blues music. could build a midi for it.
[00:54:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i guess you can, it's just a huge pain to
[00:55:06] <SirFinkus> can't you feel that trouble coming?/ but trouble's coming all the time
[00:55:23] <SirFinkus> the turnaround part
[00:55:48] <SirFinkus> I don't see why you couldn't
[00:55:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> has it got a good hook? that's the important bit really.
[00:56:11] * chromas awaits a women-only remake of the Blues Brothers
[00:56:49] <SirFinkus> working on that part, got 3 verse though
[00:56:53] <SirFinkus> called "two black cats"
[00:57:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, if that ever happens i will hunt you down and skin you alive with a rusty nail and pliers for putting the idea out there.
[00:57:45] <chromas> Tyler Perry's Meet the Blues Sistas
[00:58:27] <SirFinkus> something like this? https://www.youtube.com
[00:58:29] <systemd> ^ 03White Chicks Trailer - YouTube
[00:59:04] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[00:59:06] <systemd> ^ 03White Chicks - Trailer - YouTube
[00:59:09] <SirFinkus> shit, the real one
[00:59:11] <SirFinkus> I think
[00:59:37] <chromas> das racis
[01:00:11] * Deucalion falls in a heap in the corner....
[01:00:18] <SirFinkus> holy shit
[01:00:22] <SirFinkus> I forgot about this
[01:00:30] <SirFinkus> this is actually a movie
[01:00:31] * chromas puts a spotlight on Deucalion
[01:00:35] <SirFinkus> they MADE THIS
[01:00:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[01:01:00] <systemd> ^ 03Samantha Fish - Black Wind Howlin' - Don Odells Legends - YouTube
[01:01:47] * Deucalion sleeps anyway.. call it performance art or something.... "tired guy sleeps under spotlight" - prolly sell for millions
[01:02:14] <SirFinkus> I saw a police car that said "sod" on it today Deucalion
[01:03:32] <SirFinkus> "from the directors of scary movie"
[01:03:39] <SirFinkus> like, listed as an asset
[01:03:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> chick's good on the guitar but she just ain't smoked enough cigarettes to sing the blues
[01:04:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> blues singers should have a voice like cheap gin in a dirty ashtray
[01:04:38] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com good female blues voice
[01:04:39] <systemd> ^ 03Cowboy Bebop OST 2 No Disc - Don't Bother None - YouTube
[01:05:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> yurp, pretty fair at that
[01:06:45] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, That's nice.... sorry I am functioning on no brain cells, zero sleep, the caffeine wore off hours ago, just the music is keeping me up now. Police car with "sod" on it? Do go on...
[01:06:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[01:06:58] <systemd> ^ 03lucille bogan - shave 'em dry (1935) - YouTube
[01:07:56] <Deucalion> o/ oh hi TMB - my latency is clearly messed up
[01:08:03] <SirFinkus> lol, this is great
[01:08:26] <SirFinkus> Deucalion I forgot
[01:08:36] * TheMightyBuzzard wabes
[01:09:05] * Deucalion has resorted to ancient Prodigy tracks at this point. Beyond tired.
[01:09:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube etta james hoochie coochie gal
[01:09:35] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[01:09:37] <systemd> ^ 03Etta James - Hoochie Coochie Gal - Blues - YouTube
[01:11:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, we got 31 subs going into the weekend. eds should have an easy time of it.
[01:11:25] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[01:11:26] <systemd> ^ 03"Mr. Long Dick" Pre-Dolemite Not Rudy Ray Moore - YouTube
[01:12:14] <Deucalion> 31 Viagra subs?
[01:13:03] <chromas> boioioioioing
[01:13:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah only 30
[01:13:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> one's for cialis
[01:14:14] <Deucalion> that's ok then, I'm sure they can flesh it out, or extend it
[01:14:24] <SirFinkus> it's burger time too btw
[01:14:34] <SirFinkus> I'm making bacon right now
[01:14:48] <SirFinkus> and I'm going to carmelize the onions in the bacon grease
[01:15:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> as god intended
[01:16:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[01:16:25] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 44
[01:18:00] * Deucalion is puzzled as to how one would "make bacon" - please feel free to say "whoosh" to add to my phrases I really don't give a shit about ignoramitor device :P
[01:19:23] <SirFinkus> geez, you really are tired Deucalion
[01:19:41] <chromas> the pig rolls over and you pull the bacon out. It's just like that Simpsons epsiode
[01:19:59] <SirFinkus> proper AMERICAN bacon too Deucalion
[01:20:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The White House Announces $121 Million Microbiome Initiative - http://sylnt.us - miniscule-funding
[01:21:27] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, the little I learned... "making bacon" US style... put bacon in pan.. cook.. bacon made. I'd call that cooking bacon not making it. Fuck I get so pedantic when tired.
[01:22:03] <chromas> it's like making water or making money
[01:22:09] <chromas> you extrude it
[01:22:28] <Deucalion> Or getting the injected water out of the meat before consuming it
[01:23:55] <Runaway1956> Obviously not all of us are native English speakers from the United States
[01:24:06] <Runaway1956> makin' bacon has NOTHING to do with cooking
[01:25:44] <Deucalion> Ach... another one of my bug bears.... X population "used" N trillion gallons of water... like it's a finite resource..... that fucks me off... don't refer to water like a fossil fuel that cannot be replenished within our lifetime. Water used is cycled short-term. Wow, I am making no sense.
[01:26:09] <Deucalion> Runaway1956, I have no idea
[01:26:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://youtu.be
[01:26:19] <systemd> ^ 03Makin' Bacon Pancakes 10 HOUR VERSION! - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[01:26:27] <Runaway1956> https://cdn.shopify.com
[01:27:40] * Deucalion clicks nothing, teh darkened soundproof room awaits. It's for the best they tell me.
[01:28:22] <Runaway1956> Don't fear the reaper, Deucalion
[01:29:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> om nom nom, fudgecicles n wine
[01:35:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[01:36:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll work on #submit tomorrow on rustbot then call it ready for initial deployment
[01:38:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, no, need #help as well
[01:42:28] <SirFinkus> oh shit, that reminds me
[01:42:40] <SirFinkus> #qanda gonna be a thing Deucalion?
[01:44:07] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, call it ready now. let the users find the bugs :p
[01:46:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> well that was always the plan. just want enough functionality in so cmn32480 don't bitch.
[01:51:04] <crutchy> its ironic that apple relies on samsung for the supply of certain chips in the iphone
[01:51:07] <crutchy> http://investorplace.com
[01:51:07] <systemd> ^ 03Apple (AAPL): 5 Suppliers That Are Screwed if iPhone 7 Flops | InvestorPlace
[01:51:41] <crutchy> mentions samsung as one of apples major suppliers to take a dive if iphone 7 flops
[01:52:06] <crutchy> though i would think that if iphone 7 took a tumble, samsung smartphones might benefit
[01:52:45] <crutchy> "Meanwhile, LG Display — a major supplier of iPhone panels — recently reported a 99% drop in quarterly profit."
[01:52:50] <crutchy> wholly shyte!
[01:54:42] <swiss> i mean, why are people assuming the 7 would take a tumble?
[01:54:54] <swiss> how is it different than any other iphone
[01:55:06] <crutchy> dunno. but 99% drop is pretty significant
[01:56:44] <crutchy> and i think it was samsung that warned of a downturn in the market
[01:57:05] <crutchy> apple has sorta bet the farm in that one area
[01:57:10] <Runaway1956> The world is nearing saturation point for smart phones -
[01:57:26] <Runaway1956> poor kids in the ghettos have smart phones, FFS
[01:57:38] <crutchy> yeah but they are cheaper models. not smartphones
[01:57:46] <crutchy> s/smartphones/iphones/
[01:57:46] <sedctl> <crutchy> yeah but they are cheaper models. not iphones
[01:58:10] <Runaway1956> Android may be cheaper than iPhone, but they are still smart phones
[01:58:25] <crutchy> android runs on much cheaper models than both iphone and galaxy
[01:58:29] <Runaway1956> feature phones come with sophisticated adroid interfaces these days
[01:58:48] <SirFinkus> "android" "sophisticated"
[01:58:52] * SirFinkus chortles
[01:58:56] <crutchy> i think the warning is mainly targeted at the high end iphone and galaxy
[01:59:37] <crutchy> apple hasn't really broadened their market to allow a hit in their iphone sales
[01:59:40] <Runaway1956> Yes, and, why pay most of a thousand dollars for a phone that has few if any more features than can be found on a $150 feature phone?
[02:00:07] <Runaway1956> The biggest thing iPhone has going for it is their security
[02:00:15] <Runaway1956> and that has been shown to have flaws
[02:00:16] <crutchy> only reason why iphone and galaxy sell here is because of $0 upfront 2 year contracts
[02:00:18] <SirFinkus> also the updates
[02:00:28] <SirFinkus> 4s still getting updates I think
[02:00:38] <Runaway1956> Bingo, crutchy - you win the internet today!
[02:00:55] <SirFinkus> with android, the only thing you can really count on is the version it comes with
[02:01:11] <Runaway1956> That, and cyanogenmod
[02:01:27] <crutchy> yeah i was thinking about putting ubuntu on my old s2
[02:01:39] <crutchy> still haven't worked up the motivation to actually do it
[02:01:52] <crutchy> also, kids like playing games on it still :p
[02:02:22] <Runaway1956> If you have any motivation to spare, send me a cup tomorrow morning - I've an old server that I want to bring back to life
[02:02:53] <crutchy> its coming into low motivation season here
[02:03:01] * crutchy hates winter
[02:03:11] * Runaway1956 will drink a cup of motivation, wash it down with a cup of coffee, and get to work
[02:03:15] <SirFinkus> winter is awesome
[02:03:23] <SirFinkus> free cooling for the room full of comptuers
[02:03:27] <Runaway1956> winter is cool, also
[02:03:44] <SirFinkus> I mean, surely you don't go outside
[02:03:58] <crutchy> i have 4 computers on my desk at work, but only 1 running at home :)
[02:04:05] <Runaway1956> outside is where life happens
[02:04:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> outside is where the fish are
[02:04:23] * crutchy sees outside when he walks to workipoos
[02:04:34] <SirFinkus> crutchy you poor bastard
[02:04:51] <crutchy> yeah i know! the sun... it burns!
[02:04:59] <Runaway1956> TMB - fish are "in the water" so I'm not certain that fish are "outside"
[02:04:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> no shit, i drive just to check the mail
[02:05:05] <crutchy> lmao
[02:05:14] <crutchy> you on a farm?
[02:05:24] <crutchy> or acerage or whatever you call it over there?
[02:05:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, no, it's just all the way across the yard.
[02:05:35] <Runaway1956> gated community?
[02:05:59] <crutchy> oh yeah. gotta watch out for democrats where you are. they're dangerous foul-mouthed creatures
[02:06:09] <SirFinkus> it's a good 10 yards
[02:06:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, if the water ain't outside you need a new roof.
[02:06:21] <SirFinkus> but he can get int he car in his garage
[02:06:40] <SirFinkus> open it afterwords, then go by the mailbox and just roll downthe window
[02:06:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, fuck em. we got all the guns. what're they gonna do? protest?
[02:07:23] <Runaway1956> Oh yeah - gated communities - there's one a few miles south of here - http://ww3.hdnux.com
[02:07:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, zactly
[02:08:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> the only way i'm ever giving up fossil fuels is if they figure out how to make an engine that runs off the distilled tears of hippies
[02:09:21] <Runaway1956> Why would you distill them? To get rid of the stench?
[02:09:30] <SirFinkus> those tesla cars make a compelling argument
[02:09:39] <SirFinkus> when I'm rich, I'll buy one
[02:10:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, hippies got too much stank. incense, pot, ass, etc...
[02:11:26] * crutchy read about 'dabbing' last night
[02:11:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, if i had a tesla, i'd sell it and buy and restore a 69 dodge charger. well i say restore... it'd end up painted orange with a confederate flag on the roof.
[02:11:47] <crutchy> lol
[02:11:52] <crutchy> waste of a good charger
[02:12:15] <crutchy> paint it black dude
[02:12:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe an american thing
[02:12:23] <Runaway1956> Few democrats would ever see the roof of a charger, unless they were in an second story office
[02:12:39] * SirFinkus is listening to The Rolling Stones — Paint It Black, from the album Aftermath [Song]
[02:13:03] <SirFinkus> good fucking song
[02:13:32] <Runaway1956> The damned clock keeps counting toward work time - someone turn it off please
[02:13:35] * crutchy drove the company hilux to a client site yesterday. first time i driven a manual for a few years
[02:13:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, dukes of hazard was like THE show back in the day. daisy duke jump started many a kid into puberty with them shorts.
[02:14:06] <crutchy> pretty forgiving gearbox compared to the old '85 carolla i used to drive
[02:14:30] <crutchy> but still felt like i was actually driving, compared to my new camry which is all automated electronica
[02:14:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima get one more smoke in then bed
[02:14:42] <SirFinkus> automatics suck
[02:14:48] <SirFinkus> give me manual
[02:15:06] <crutchy> new car has sports shift at least. paddles on the steering wheel
[02:15:16] <crutchy> but yeah not as good as a real manual
[02:15:17] <SirFinkus> unless it's electric
[02:15:39] <SirFinkus> then it doesn't matter
[02:15:55] <crutchy> then you just have an 'insane mode' button :p
[02:15:58] <SirFinkus> ICE? fuck you, I decide when I need torque
[02:16:49] <crutchy> i still remember when i was a teenager, long before telsa was a company name, i was drawing electric cars
[02:16:53] <SirFinkus> downshifting to pass someone is one of the few pleasures I have in life
[02:16:59] <Runaway1956> My Aggie's official graduation ceremony is tomorrow morning, and I've got to work
[02:17:11] <SirFinkus> fucking NAILING the rev matching
[02:17:15] <SirFinkus> it's like a video game
[02:17:19] <SirFinkus> every time I shift
[02:17:22] * crutchy passes the deadly manflu to Runaway1956
[02:17:31] <Runaway1956> LOL
[02:17:31] <SirFinkus> instant feedback
[02:18:38] <crutchy> new car is fairly responsive when overtaking. my old car was a v6 and i was a bit sceptical about a v4 but tbh most of the time it drives on eco mode which drops a cylinder anyway
[02:19:33] <crutchy> uses about 8-10L/100km on most roads
[02:20:29] <Runaway1956> That's like 2 1/4 gallons to go 70 miles? Not bad . . . nothing to brag about,
[02:22:19] <crutchy> nah its just a camry
[02:22:34] <crutchy> but still better milage than i ever had before :)
[02:23:02] <Runaway1956> My best fuel mileage has been on motorcycles, followed by a Camry station wagon
[02:23:39] <Runaway1956> That station wagon actually got 42 mpg now and then - overall average about 36
[02:23:39] <SirFinkus> I get awesome fuel mileage on my bicycle
[02:23:56] <crutchy> food is pretty expensive nowadays
[02:24:00] <Runaway1956> Bicycles are so 1800 . . . .
[02:24:55] <crutchy> bicylcles are awesome till you gotta figure out what to do with them when you get to your destination
[02:24:59] <SirFinkus> most effiecient mod of human transportation
[02:25:15] <SirFinkus> mode even
[02:25:29] <crutchy> most people drive around here
[02:25:31] <Runaway1956> Best thing to do with a bicycle, is to fold it up and put it in your desk drawer when you get to work.
[02:25:37] <crutchy> biking not very popular
[02:25:52] <SirFinkus> velomobile is the way to go, but so expensive
[02:26:06] <crutchy> even walking not very popular, but i like to walk when weather is ok
[02:26:31] <Runaway1956> Drop bears prefer bicyclists, is what I hear.
[02:26:43] <SirFinkus> what about waltzing?
[02:26:52] <SirFinkus> like, matilda style
[02:27:22] <crutchy> waltzing might be something they do in the cities
[02:28:00] <crutchy> apparently melbourne is a pretty big city now, even around the world
[02:28:23] <crutchy> i knew it was big for australia, but didn't realise it was big by world standards
[02:28:31] <Runaway1956> My great grandparents waltzed -
[02:28:45] <crutchy> yeah waltzing is so 1800...
[02:28:46] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[02:28:48] <systemd> ^ 03Slim Dusty - Waltzing Matilda - YouTube
[02:28:56] <crutchy> slim_dusty++
[02:28:56] <Bender> karma - slim_dusty: 1
[02:28:58] <Runaway1956> That was way before Lawrence Welk, of course
[02:44:49] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.rt.com
[02:44:50] <MrPlow> Unable to get a description from that page
[02:45:04] <Runaway1956> ~submit https://www.rt.com
[02:45:34] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[02:52:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What's the Best Free CD Ripper? - http://sylnt.us - rip-in-peace
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[04:45:15] <Gravis> LOL https://www.maketecheasier.com
[04:53:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK: Research Exposes Prejudice Over Teachers With Northern Accents - http://sylnt.us - darn-tootin'
[05:02:37] <Gravis> cmn32480: "The Chemicals We Off-Gas Change When We Watch Something Funny or Thrilling" <-- did you mean "Chemicals We Emit"?
[05:03:39] <Gravis> off-gas is a real thing? what is this language coming to?!
[05:30:05] <crutchy> you never heard of off-gassing?
[05:30:49] <crutchy> Off-gassing (also known as out-gassing) refers to the release of airborne particulates or chemicals—dubbed volatile organic compounds (VOCs)—from common household products
[05:30:59] <crutchy> -- random website
[05:30:59] <systemd> Karma - : -1
[05:31:39] <crutchy> Outgassing (sometimes called offgassing, particularly when in reference to indoor air quality) is the release of a gas that was dissolved, trapped, frozen or absorbed in some material
[05:31:44] <crutchy> that one is wikipedia
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[07:55:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Solar Impulse 2 Set for Next Leg in Round-the-World Flight - http://sylnt.us - not-80-days
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[10:00:31] <Bytram> coffee++
[10:00:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2565
[10:00:36] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[10:00:38] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 60°F, partly cloudy, wind W at 13 mph, humidity 82% - Saturday mostly sunny (51°F:75°F), Sunday cloudy (43°F:61°F), Monday cloudy (46°F:61°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (48°F:68°F)
[10:00:41] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[10:00:43] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 53°F, mostly cloudy, wind W at 1 mph, humidity 98% - Saturday partly cloudy (49°F:72°F), Sunday cloudy (39°F:61°F), Monday cloudy (41°F:56°F), Tuesday mostly sunny (41°F:64°F)
[10:00:48] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[10:00:49] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 54°F, light rain showers, wind S at 5 mph, humidity 98% - Saturday showers (47°F:71°F), Sunday rain (36°F:55°F), Monday showers (37°F:49°F), Tuesday cloudy (37°F:56°F)
[10:14:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:14:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2566
[10:21:34] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, is this you? https://www.youtube.com
[10:21:35] <systemd> ^ 03Soul Reaver Build - YouTube
[10:21:48] <crutchy> i imagine you look kinda like this guy
[10:22:04] <crutchy> with a southern american accent though
[10:22:16] <crutchy> fuckin cool sword
[10:22:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i don't keep a beard cept in the winter anymore.
[10:23:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> make it a southwest accent though. texas/oklahoma sound only slightly similar to the proper south.
[10:24:52] <chromas> aw
[10:25:05] <chromas> I imagined at the next staff meet you and Subsentient could dock beards
[10:25:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> think cowboy not southern gentleman sound
[10:26:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> scuse me, think my coffee is finally done
[10:27:18] <chromas> no real southern gentleman would dare wrastle perl or the mighty regex
[10:27:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - And the Third Leading Cause of Death in the US is... Medical Errors - http://sylnt.us - bzzt-oops
[10:28:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth, you gotta be a crazyass cowboy
[10:29:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[10:29:05] <systemd> ^✓ 03True Grit (9/9) Movie CLIP - Bold Talk for a One-Eyed Fat Man (1969) HD - YouTube
[10:33:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> m'kay, time for another cigarette then bust off into rustbot
[10:49:39] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, from here on known as TheMightyNorris, Texas Ranger
[10:58:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, m'kay, ima forgive you this once since yer not familiar with regional rivalries but calling an Okie a Texan is a lot like calling you a Kiwi
[10:58:46] <crutchy> lol
[10:59:16] <crutchy> i think if you called me a kiwi you'd be offending the kiwis more :p
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[11:16:44] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Evening kiwi :P
[11:21:25] <Bytram> lol
[11:21:44] <crutchy> JamesNZ, ahoy aussie! :D
[11:22:20] <Bytram> Gack! Lost my context in my Ubuntu Mate VM when I rebooted my PC to load updates. :(
[11:27:18] <Bytram> and I needs to be getting me ready for work. :( :(
[11:27:23] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: you around?
[11:27:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, yuppers
[11:27:55] <Bytram> g'morning!
[11:27:56] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:27:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2567
[11:27:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> working out threading in rust
[11:27:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:28:00] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2568
[11:28:15] <Bytram> one of our most prolific story submitters pointed out something
[11:28:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> p666?
[11:28:35] <Bytram> if you are an editor, your story submission count does not appear on the Hall of Fame: https://soylentnews.org
[11:28:35] <systemd> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[11:28:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> perils of being an editor
[11:29:03] <Bytram> kinda makes sense, as including authors (aka editors) could push non-editors off the chart
[11:29:21] <Bytram> was thinking there may be a simple solution
[11:29:34] <Bytram> looked into it, but lost context when I rebooted my system.
[11:29:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really. submitter vs author are stored separately. dunno why you were specifically excluded if you're an author.
[11:30:02] <Bytram> the "Most Active Submitters" section could be duped and modified to be:
[11:30:31] <Bytram> there is code in that specifically excludes authors in the SQL query.
[11:30:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, would have to be
[11:30:43] <Bytram> yep,
[11:30:57] <Bytram> so, my thoghts are it should be simple to make TWO sections:
[11:30:59] <Bytram> "Most Active Submitters - Non-authors"
[11:31:03] <Bytram> "Most Active Submitters - Authors"
[11:31:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> we could remove it if you guys is feelin slighted or we could leave it in if yer wantin to be modest.
[11:31:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> or that
[11:31:19] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $1,684
[11:31:25] <Bytram> funding++
[11:31:25] <Bender> karma - funding: 3
[11:31:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> yays, mrcoolbp updated it again.
[11:32:02] <Bytram> should be just a copy pasta and some minor tweaks, but I am still a newbie at the code, and I lost my context when I rebooted my system to apply an update.
[11:32:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, if you wanna tweak the HOF, go right ahead.
[11:32:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> for that matter, we need a hof link on the main page
[11:32:50] <Bytram> and I don't have a day off until next thursday :(
[11:32:56] <Bytram> true that!
[11:33:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> no rush, the 16_04 update looks like it's gonna be a 16_06 update anyway.
[11:33:53] <Bytram> coding up the template changes is a peice of cake, but I am squeamish about making any coding changes (the .pl/.pm stuff) -- ain't done that before.
[11:34:01] <Bytram> *piece
[11:34:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> good practice then
[11:34:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> this are a pretty simple one
[11:34:57] <Bytram> so, you could do it in 5 minutes, then?
[11:35:01] <Bytram> ;)
[11:36:22] <Bytram> yes, I realize it would be good practice, no argument. Just don't see having hte time available when you would also be around to merge changes into dev for me to test/debug.
[11:36:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, templates annoy me so i'd drag my feet
[11:36:48] <Bytram> I find templates to be easy/peasy.
[11:37:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> like i been putting off renaming/fixing the branch of the april1 theme outa sheer annoyance n lazy
[11:38:01] <Bytram> nod nod
[11:39:06] <Bytram> hmmm, main;hof;default
[11:39:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i might get to it after the weekend though. may as well throw some extra stuff in since pj isn't in a hurry to push out this update.
[11:39:30] <Bytram> seems that way
[11:40:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> really would be a good place for you to get your perl feet wet though. it's basically copy pasta and changing one line of sql.
[11:40:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> well and giving the new sub a new name
[11:41:16] <Bytram> that was my view (heh!) of the scope of it.... I just need an unbroken stretch of a couple hours where I can pick someone's brain as I poke along
[11:42:10] <Bytram> I do coding rarely enough on this site, that I need to go back to basics and check my notes for simple things like how to make a clean branch, check stuff in, etc.
[11:43:10] <chromas> branch and release are for sissymaries. just edit the files on production
[11:43:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake chromas
[11:43:45] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with clippy
[11:43:54] <Bytram> ROFL!
[11:44:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's for pj and NC. us peons gotta use version control.
[11:47:36] * Bytram is a peon
[11:47:41] <Bytram> ;)
[11:47:48] <Bytram> ahh, here's the template code:
[11:47:52] <Bytram> <p>[% PROCESS titlebar title => 'Most Active Submitters' %]
[11:47:52] <Bytram> <div class="generalbody">
[11:47:52] <Bytram> [% FOREACH item = activesub %]
[11:47:52] <Bytram> <b>[% item.0 %]</b> <a href="[% constants.real_rootdir %]/~[% item.1 | strip_paramattr %]/">[% item.1 %]</a><br>
[11:47:52] <Bytram> [% END %]</p>
[11:47:53] <Bytram> </div>
[11:48:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[11:48:23] <chromas> https://www.smore.com
[11:48:24] <systemd> ^ 03ClippyJS - Add Clippy or his friends to any website for instant nostalgia
[11:48:27] <Bytram> sorry, pasted wrong place.
[11:48:45] <Bytram> that was the template text that formats the HofF for submitters
[11:49:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> anywho, it's nicotine time again. feel free to queue up stuffs for me to read.
[11:50:20] <Bytram> looks like just change the title for "Most Active Submitters - NonAuthor" and "Most Active Submitters - Authors" and change the item in the FOREACH to be: "activesubisauthor" and "activesubnotauthor"
[11:50:33] <Bytram> yeah, and I needs to get ready for work... thanks for the feedback!!!
[11:59:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mozilla Asks Court to Force FBI to Reveal Tor Browser Security Vulnerability - http://sylnt.us - because-vulnerabilities-want-to-be-free
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[13:06:50] <Bytram> http://mobile.nytimes.com
[13:06:51] <systemd> ^ 03Scientists Talk Privately About Creating a Synthetic Human Genome - NYTimes.com
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[13:35:18] <Bytram|away> okay, gtg.... have a GREAT day everyone!
[14:00:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Announcing Certbot: EFF's Client for Let's Encrypt - http://sylnt.us - I-remember-when-Certs-used-to-be-just-a-breath-mint
[14:13:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, multithreading is a pita in rust
[14:30:13] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Go see pthreads for real pain.
[14:32:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, pthreads is easy.
[14:34:34] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: tried it in C?
[14:35:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, yar. mrplow was multi-threaded before i scrapped him.
[14:35:46] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I always struggled with weird ass behaviour in pthreads.
[14:37:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[14:37:47] <Subsentient> Like threads not being killed when calling pthread_kill, stuff like that
[14:38:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, i had one thread running off to the side all the time the program was active.
[14:39:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now i'm dealing with insano lock behavior in rust
[14:39:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't for the life of me tell what has the bloody lock
[14:39:34] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: can I see?
[14:40:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah too much trouble just now
[14:40:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus it's in a broken state
[14:40:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> just working out of a test file until i grok threading and locking in rust
[14:40:53] <Subsentient> so is Epoch-ng.
[14:41:21] <Subsentient> (changes were too massive to make it 2.0, it's a half-rewrite of the entire init system)
[14:42:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> does not help that some of the documentation is out of date
[14:42:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> their examples for Channels do not compile
[14:44:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's also harder'n fuck to just spin off a thread and.... wait no it's not...
[15:11:57] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: in python, threads aren't really threads. They are just two jobs that switch places every n milliseconds, no real multiprocessing
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[15:43:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> well hell, now i forgot how i was gonna arrange this mess
[16:07:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> woohoo! finally figured out locking worth a damn!
[16:11:07] * Gravis puts TheMightyBuzzard in a mutex and locks it
[16:12:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> while mutex.try_lock().is_err { self.nap(); }
[16:12:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, fergot a () after the is_err
[16:13:23] <Gravis> query: why rust instead of c++?
[16:13:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause i was curious about it
[16:14:37] <Gravis> ok. it's mostly just c++ with a different syntax and missing some stuff.
[16:15:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, and also extreme memory protection. you literally have to write the word "unsafe" in your code to write outside the bounds of a variable or create a race condition.
[16:16:20] <Gravis> -_-
[16:17:15] <Gravis> well at least now we know what the mozilla coders were really shitty at: proper memory management
[16:17:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> the compiler itself won't allow two writeable pointers to a value to exist at once, fer instance.
[16:17:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> understatement.
[16:19:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm fairly shitty at it myself in an off by one sort of way. no matter what values i put in, they will be off by one the first time. and the direction is indeterminate until the first run.
[16:20:02] <Gravis> which is why you just use the STL and not worry about micromanaging memory
[16:20:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly wise. i was curious about rust though and annoyed with C.
[16:21:25] <Gravis> yeah, it doesn't take a new language to simplify memory management
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[16:22:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's heavier on memory and fairly poorly documented but it's still a hell of a lot lighter than perl and more secure than C
[16:23:13] <Gravis> well, if you want something that well documented, lighter than perl and more secure than C then you simply need to use C++
[16:23:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> my bots here are just toys to try out new or underused skills. if they work for any length of time it's because i was too busy to mess with them.
[16:23:21] <Gravis> C++ was invented for a very good reason
[16:23:21] <Bender> karma - c: 55
[16:24:33] <Gravis> rust is just reinventing the wheel and apparently requiring you to wear a helmet while using it. -_-
[16:25:15] <Gravis> so i can see why it appeals to people who already wear a helmet all the time. ;)
[16:25:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, that's my special fishin hat
[16:26:07] <Gravis> sure, it's special but it ain't got nothin' to do with fishin.
[16:26:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly it annoys the piss out of me so far but i'm not giving up until i get the bot as working as the C version was.
[16:28:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> and fer real, i wish a hell of a lot of the programmers i've met were forced to use it. i'd have had to fix a lot less.
[16:28:14] <Gravis> however, i am greatful for some of these weird-o languages because it pushes the C++ people to make further improvements. i think D is what kicked their asses into making C++11
[16:28:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, competition is good.
[16:29:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> startin to sound like a capitalist, Gravis
[16:29:47] <Gravis> competition is part of human nature
[16:30:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> absolutely
[16:30:53] <Gravis> sadly, it's at the core of psychopaths.
[16:31:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> untrue. one has nothing to do with the other. psychopaths are quite capable of not giving a shit just like everyone else.
[16:32:33] <Gravis> then you don't know psychopaths.
[16:32:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> you keep telling me that and you keep being wrong.
[16:33:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> psychopaths are no more innately competitive than any other human.
[16:33:46] <Gravis> why would you say that?
[16:33:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> because it is not part of the definition of psychopathy
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[16:34:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> now they may arguably be BETTER at competing due to the whole lack of empathy thing but that's another matter entirely
[16:36:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> and just for future reference: not giving a shit about your feelings is not the same as being unable to recognize and acknowledge them.
[16:37:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> like i completely recognize and acknowledge the feelings you got about the robot utopia. and i think they're bloody stupid and do not share them. there is no conflict.
[16:37:47] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: this is why they are more competitive: https://www.nih.gov
[16:37:48] <systemd> ^ 03Impulsive-Antisocial Personality Traits Linked to a Hypersensitive Brain Reward System | National Institutes of Health (NIH)
[16:38:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> fek, it's lunch time already
[16:39:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i must go do that food thing.
[16:39:21] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: smoke and drink at the same time to save time
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[17:33:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 80 Percent of World's City Dwellers Breathing Bad Air: UN - http://sylnt.us - clean-it-up
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[18:59:41] <SirFinkus> amazon recommendation http://www.amazon.com
[18:59:43] <systemd> ^ 03Amazon.com : Pure Romance Like a Virgin 24-hour Tightener : Everything Else
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[23:18:48] <BlueDanube> Man, the Blue Danube Waltz rocks.
[23:18:50] <BlueDanube> https://www.youtube.com
[23:18:52] <systemd> ^ 03André Rieu - The Beautiful Blue Danube - YouTube
[23:19:23] <BlueDanube> I've always liked it listening to it on the early Looney Tunes.
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[23:41:14] <crutchy> can always tell the E-F is high as fuck
[23:44:00] <crutchy> this is more my kinda classic music https://www.youtube.com
[23:44:02] <systemd> ^ 032CELLOS - Thunderstruck [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube