#Soylent | Logs for 2016-04-28

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[23:57:53] <SirFinkus> look forward to reading it
[23:57:49] <SirFinkus> oh, neat
[23:57:36] <Gravis> SirFinkus: writing a news story that you may care about
[23:57:01] <Gravis> SirFinkus: more important things happening
[23:56:38] <SirFinkus> how goes the re-write?
[23:56:04] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you need to modify the site's CSS to make abbr tags be dash underlined or something
[23:39:41] <Gravis> erm... did the page just change?
[23:21:20] * exec insatiably poops a 5¼" floppy dick of pesos for crutchy
[23:21:18] <Subsentient> ~gday crutchy
[23:00:11] <Gravis> oww... should be able to use stuff like CUDA only any video card too... though i don't think anyone will bother with that now
[22:58:19] <Gravis> hmm... it should be absolutely fantastic for emulators too
[22:55:07] <Gravis> it also lets you bring back deprecated and proprietary features from various versions of openGL
[22:50:53] <Gravis> you could even implement stuff like GLIDE
[22:50:15] <Gravis> hmm... i think the Vulkan API could be pretty great for getting windows graphics stuff on linux. it basically is a platform for implementing your own APIs.
[22:12:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Merck Wants its Money Back if University Research is Wrong - http://sylnt.us - people-should-be-more-careful
[22:01:21] <crutchy> looks like it dropped about 200 points today
[22:00:34] <crutchy> dow is on its second rebound. wonder if this downhill will turn into a landslide
[21:41:14] <crutchy> exec does too but i guess MrPlow isn't listed :p
[21:40:53] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, i think TransBotula has some fancy code that ignores other bots or something
[20:41:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Massive Fish Kill off Central Vietnam Coast - http://sylnt.us - something-fishy-going-on
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[18:40:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Former Tor Developer Created Malware for the FBI to Hack Tor Users - http://sylnt.us - gotta-pay-the-bills-somehow
[18:25:15] <Subsentient> lol
[18:24:59] <nick> i was just trying to be cool :( i saw the headline and thought it's what the kids are doing now
[18:24:21] <cmn32480> cmn32480 filters his mail...
[18:22:54] * nick spams cmn32480
[17:45:47] <cmn32480> mone is shown obfuscated - the {reverse this} bit
[17:45:21] <cmn32480> sorta
[17:44:05] <Web_weasel> ^^
[17:44:01] <Web_weasel> some kinda hacker meta game eh?
[17:42:33] <cmn32480> generally, from a staff member, the address will be our <site nick>@soylentnews.org....
[17:37:44] <Web_weasel> or a reply function for direct messages. admins only ofc, otherwise, abuse
[17:35:35] * cmn32480 steals TheMightyBuzzard's fooshin hole.
[17:35:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, before i go, Bytram|away, fix your official email to at least obscured so folks can contact you =P
[17:34:20] * TheMightyBuzzard waves and heads out to his chosen fishing hole
[17:33:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> gnod gnod
[17:33:19] <Web_weasel> or a PM ofc
[17:33:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> alternately, you can drop over by #editorial and reply there
[17:33:08] <Web_weasel> Transmissions are time based though, so would be hard to put a link in the summary
[17:32:54] <Web_weasel> Bytram|away, if you look on the front page of priyom.org, there is a calendar. Just click on the links, it will take you to an online radio and tune it for you!
[17:32:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> martyb == bytram
[17:32:27] <Web_weasel> OK he should see that so Ill reply here
[17:32:21] <Web_weasel> reet
[17:32:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> Web_weasel, or you can say BYTRAM! I SUMMON THEE!
[17:31:37] <Web_weasel> crap
[17:31:35] <Web_weasel> (email not shown publicly)
[17:31:26] <Web_weasel> right, so I'm not being a retard
[17:31:18] <Web_weasel> no ability to add a comment to the submission
[17:31:17] <cmn32480> email is the best way.
[17:31:12] <Web_weasel> hmm no reply button
[17:29:11] <Web_weasel> how do I reply?
[17:29:08] <Web_weasel> I have an message from martyb, asking for links for my submission
[17:28:55] <Web_weasel> uhhhh now I feel stupid
[17:15:01] <Web_weasel> Bonsai seeds on to soak... lets start a new hobby
[17:08:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nuclear Plant Infected by Malware - http://sylnt.us - no-air-gap
[17:02:49] <TransBotula> ^ 03Chief Greenbud - It's 420 Somewhere - YouTube
[17:02:47] <Web_weasel> TheMightyBuzzard, gotta move with the times https://www.youtube.com
[16:33:18] <Bender> karma - alcoholism: 6
[16:33:18] <Gravis> alcoholism++
[16:33:12] * TheMightyBuzzard wanders off in search of lunch
[16:32:20] <Gravis> noted
[16:32:15] <Bender> karma - alcoholism: 5
[16:32:14] <Gravis> alcoholism++
[16:32:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> non-drinking lake, if you believe such communism in the whiskey-making state of TN
[16:31:25] <Bender> karma - alcoholism: 4
[16:31:24] <Gravis> alcoholism++
[16:31:23] <Gravis> and have a drink with them?
[16:30:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> may fish, may not.
[16:30:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i'm thinking lunch then go hang out with the other old fart fishermen on the dock.
[16:29:50] <Bender> karma - alcoholism: 3
[16:29:50] <Gravis> alcoholism++
[16:29:36] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[16:29:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube it's five o'clock somewhere
[16:29:32] <Bender> karma - alcoholism: 2
[16:29:31] <Gravis> alcoholism++
[16:29:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, it's not even lunchtime yet.
[16:29:15] <Bender> karma - alcoholism: 1
[16:29:14] <Gravis> alcoholism++
[16:28:53] <Bender> karma - beer: 53
[16:28:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> beer++
[16:28:50] <Gravis> Web_weasel: not if you put them in space
[16:28:34] <Web_weasel> Well yeah, kelvin keeps coming along and kicking peoples asses
[16:27:43] <Gravis> well shit. it doesn't appear that anyone has made a superconducting microprocessor yet. :(
[16:25:57] <Web_weasel> I do belive its time to partake of some ales.
[16:25:01] <Gravis> cmn32480: i'm not ashamed of who i am. ;P
[16:24:16] <Web_weasel> ha ha
[16:24:09] <cmn32480> oddly enough.. one of them IS @gravis.lurves.teh.cok
[16:22:50] <Web_weasel> eh its good enough, I'm using 7 proxies ;-P
[16:22:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, won't matter with a vhost though. you can always be ~Stefan@gravis.lurves.teh.cok if you so choose.
[16:21:26] <Web_weasel> ill either get bt or priyom.org
[16:21:17] <Web_weasel> huh depends what of the two broadband lines it chooses to connect
[16:20:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> MrPlow already has dibs on @nsa.gov though
[16:20:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's /hs help too if you want some silliness rather than an obscured hostmask.
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[16:19:32] <Web_weasel> lets see if autologin works
[16:19:09] <Web_weasel> just done so
[16:18:46] * TheMightyBuzzard starts grabbing fish
[16:18:32] * Gravis holds TheMightyBuzzard under the pond
[16:18:17] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders
[16:18:01] <Gravis> Web_weasel: get a registered nick
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[16:17:37] <Web_weasel> @home now ;-)
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[16:17:24] <Web_weasel> cmn32480, I'm webbyatwork ;-)
[16:17:08] <mrcoolbp> aye
[16:17:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> a fine idear
[16:17:00] <cmn32480> What brings you to our oddball-filled little corner of the web, Web_weasel?
[16:16:54] <mrcoolbp> Think I'm'a play some vidya
[16:16:45] <Gravis> cmn32480: well i hope you starve!
[16:16:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> or if you wanna be oldschool about it, /msg nickserv help
[16:16:36] <Web_weasel> danke
[16:16:18] <cmn32480> thanks TMB.. I coudln't think of it
[16:16:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> /ns help
[16:16:04] <cmn32480> yes sir
[16:16:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup yup
[16:15:54] <Web_weasel> Is there a nickserv for the soylent IRC?
[16:15:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> template parsing is really what eats our asses up. it'd be quicker if we hardcoded the html into the perl subs that call the templates but it would be uuuuuugly.
[16:15:03] <Web_weasel> cmn32480, amen to that!
[16:14:58] * exec retroactively pisses a broken promise of windows 7 on Web_weasel
[16:14:56] <cmn32480> ~gday Web_weasel
[16:14:50] <Web_weasel> Greetings programs
[16:14:48] <cmn32480> Windows is what keeps a roof over my head and food in my belly
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[16:14:38] <cmn32480> not a traitor
[16:14:34] <cmn32480> nope
[16:14:25] <Gravis> cmn32480: traitor!
[16:14:02] <FatPhil> ISIS?
[16:12:42] <cmn32480> IIS FTW!
[16:12:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is exactly why we can't move off of apache easily
[16:11:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, they do go out of scope intentionally except for the very few that can actually be counted upon to be the same and are set up on apache boot rather than on request
[16:10:05] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so variables won't go out of scope in the perl scripts from one request to the next?
[16:09:56] <mrcoolbp> but I'm not sure anymore
[16:09:38] <mrcoolbp> and we believe AC readers outnumber registered users
[16:09:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> for registered users, yes. ACs get varnish caching a lot more because we can since they don't have preferences.
[16:08:14] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: is the page generator run, finish and then start over completely when getting a new request?
[16:08:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really doable. the text is cached by the db servers and memory caching them lead to zero speedup. caching rendered versions isn't viable because you'd have to cache one for every last skin and mod adjustment preference combination.
[16:06:36] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: well if you cached the comments, it would be a lot easier
[16:05:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> so that's where i'm gonna put my effort rather than trying to get one second down to 100ms
[16:04:23] <Gravis> well... lots of room for improvement! ;)
[16:04:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> comment template parsing for each bloody comment is what's eating our asses and causing highly commented stories to suck loading
[16:03:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> the latter
[16:03:44] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: is the page served as it's generated or does it create the entire page before serving it?
[16:03:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really concerned about sub-second page load times though. nobody cares as long as they don't have to wait.
[16:02:09] <mrcoolbp> yeah
[16:02:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sure if accruate either.
[16:01:42] <Gravis> oi
[16:01:26] <mrcoolbp> this is at the bottom of a page for me, not sure if relevant: "0.7 pps | article 0.59s -5% | comments 0.17s -16% | index 0.55s -11% 10% fast"
[16:00:45] <Gravis> are we talking 100ms here?
[16:00:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> looking into how to speed that up is high on my to-do list
[16:00:07] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: sure... but how fast?
[15:59:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. it's exceedingly fast until comments start creeping over 100 or so.
[15:59:19] <Gravis> i'm just curious how fast it is
[15:59:05] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: have you tested to see how long it takes to generate various pages?
[15:59:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, got it. 13GB for the whole data directory
[15:56:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> rather gzipped db dumps
[15:56:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, uncompressed db dumps were running 41MB back in late 2015
[15:54:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> custom installs
[15:53:37] <Gravis> /var duh
[15:53:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, where does mysql-cluster store its data now...
[15:52:41] <mrcoolbp> your troll comments exceed that alone
[15:51:07] <Gravis> the text of trolls alone exceed that
[15:50:42] <Gravis> uhh, no.
[15:50:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> that can't be right. 3MB?
[15:48:56] <Gravis> it should be rather small
[15:48:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> lemme check
[15:48:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, not sure really
[15:48:14] <Gravis> query: how large has the DB gotten?
[15:48:00] <mrcoolbp> well I'd leave decisions like that to you and PJ
[15:47:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> and making the local mysqld stop caching so bloody much would give us even more since it's not like hitting the db clusters which also have the same stuff stored in ram would hurt speed at all.
[15:46:01] <mrcoolbp> linode isn't giving me ram graphs but I have data and cpu usage here
[15:45:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> wouldn't make for as much overhead freedom but we would still have headroom at 2GB
[15:44:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, i been thinking... we could drop the number of apache threads and drop down to 2GB ram on the web front ends next time we get in a money saving mood.
[15:44:07] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard I'm in the control panel
[15:43:48] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: and if you dont have htop installed, feel bad about it. ;)
[15:43:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, 4
[15:43:39] <mrcoolbp> 4 GB RAM
[15:43:34] <mrcoolbp> 500 Mbps Network Out
[15:43:33] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: try htop
[15:43:30] <mrcoolbp> 40 Gbps Network In
[15:43:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> least that's what lshw reports. i don't currently have access to linode control panels, though i spose i could if necessary.
[15:43:17] <mrcoolbp> Gravis: 4 CPU Cores
[15:42:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> one looks like
[15:42:37] <Gravis> yes
[15:42:30] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: is he talking prod cluster?
[15:41:56] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[15:41:41] * mrcoolbp fires up linode
[15:41:29] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: how many cores do the web frontend servers have?
[15:40:53] <FatPhil> = good, thank you
[15:40:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> not storing anything means nothing can be subpoenaed
[15:40:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> we don't run access logs unless we're debugging
[15:39:58] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: how do you do load testing?
[15:39:33] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you should grep the logs for the most occurances of X digits of a timestamp
[15:37:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno. far less than we technically can but redundancy is still necessary to avoid downtime.
[15:37:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Edward Snowden: The Internet Is Broken - http://sylnt.us - interesting-reads
[15:33:30] <Gravis> what's the max number of requests per second that SN has to handle?
[15:30:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[15:29:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, if you seriously come up with any good ideas rather than just giving me shit, we're all ears, yo. specially if you're willing to contribute the time to implement any of the ideas.
[15:27:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> teach him to idle while he sleeps
[15:27:26] * TheMightyBuzzard pushes crutchy's sleeping self forward a couple paces
[15:27:02] <mrcoolbp> lol
[15:26:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> noti t
[15:26:51] <mrcoolbp> "not it"
[15:26:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wouldn't mind moving to postgresql but i don't wanna be the one that has to rewrite every sql query.
[15:25:52] <SirFinkus> oh, and mongodb
[15:25:35] * TheMightyBuzzard starts adding columns
[15:25:34] <Gravis> node.js is something the devil invented
[15:25:29] <mrcoolbp> cool we'll look into it thanks!
[15:25:19] <SirFinkus> I hear that node.js thing is pretty cool
[15:25:13] <mrcoolbp> enjoy your lernin'
[15:25:02] <mrcoolbp> agreed, I'll crack the whip SirFinkus
[15:24:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, if it were all done in such a way as it could be moved to any old cgi handler, we could use most any webserver. it's not, however. there's some right funky magic that goes on.
[15:24:44] <SirFinkus> school time, I expect a new site architecture by the time I return
[15:23:29] <exec> titles disabled for 10#Soylent
[15:23:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~title off
[15:23:14] <exec> └─ 13GitHub - SoylentNews/rehash: Forked from Slashcode, rehash is the codebase that powers SoylentNews.org, powered by mod_perl 2
[15:23:14] <exec> └─ 13GitHub - SoylentNews/rehash: Forked from Slashcode, rehash is the codebase that powers SoylentNews.org, powered by mod_perl 2
[15:23:11] <TransBotula> ^✓ 03GitHub - SoylentNews/rehash: Forked from Slashcode, rehash is the codebase that powers SoylentNews.org, powered by mod_perl 2 ( https://github.com )
[15:23:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://github.com
[15:23:02] <mrcoolbp> git
[15:22:48] <Gravis> where is the SN repo?
[15:22:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ssi is actually exactly backwards from what we do. we put html in our scripts not scripts in our html.
[15:21:27] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480 can't we divert energy from the Trilithium crystals?
[15:21:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, wrong thing. we're not talking ssi, we're talking more along the lines of cgi scripts but that make use of some shared shat whose initialization is done by mod_perl when apache loads
[15:21:02] * mrcoolbp gives exec decaf
[15:20:49] <cmn32480> he runs on a celeron for gods sake.l. .giving him coffee might force the warp core into overload!
[15:20:12] * mrcoolbp gives exec some coffee
[15:19:57] <exec> └─ 13Module ngx_http_perl_module [04module ngx_http_perl_module]
[15:19:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya, i forgot.
[15:19:53] <TransBotula> ^ 03Module ngx_http_perl_module
[15:19:52] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: seriously? simple google and the solution is obvious: http://nginx.org
[15:19:52] <mrcoolbp> I think...
[15:19:46] <mrcoolbp> I already promoted you last year
[15:19:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, i need a promotion then. i can't be the same rank as him.
[15:19:13] * mrcoolbp makes Gravis a code-monkey first class
[15:19:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> mod_perl only runs on apache. anything else would require a full on rewrite.
[15:18:55] <mrcoolbp> I think Gravis is volunteering to do it TheMightyBuzzard
[15:18:38] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you dont' have to do a rewrite to use a better server daemon
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[15:18:33] <mrcoolbp> later
[15:18:29] <Webbyatwork> later
[15:18:23] * TheMightyBuzzard waves to Webbyatwork
[15:17:58] * exec single-handedly terrorizes a tinfoil hat of fat chick with Webbyatwork
[15:17:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, we're not gonna do a complete rewrite any time soon. sorry.
[15:17:55] <cmn32480> ~gnight Webbyatwork
[15:17:43] <Webbyatwork> hometime, later all
[15:17:41] <Gravis> SirFinkus: you leave the color blue out of thise!
[15:17:27] <exec> └─ 13Cloud Girl, Claudia Madobe's Introduce the Microsoft Azure - YouTube
[15:17:25] <TransBotula> ^ 03Cloud Girl, Claudia Madobe's Introduce the Microsoft Azure - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[15:17:24] <exec> └─ 13Cloud Girl, Claudia Madobe's Introduce the Microsoft Azure - YouTube
[15:17:22] <SirFinkus> I hear azure is good https://youtu.be
[15:16:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> those could actually run other stuff if it weren't for it being an epically bad idea to mix shat like irc and mail and shat on your web frontends.
[15:16:56] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you should fix that
[15:16:33] <mrcoolbp> = P
[15:16:12] <Gravis> ugh... no wonder you need lots of ram
[15:15:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, two vpses running apache 2.2 and mod_perl2
[15:15:32] <mrcoolbp> Yeah we already had a the Great Consolidation and I'm pretty sure PJ got us down to barebones as much as possible without sacrificing anythign
[15:15:28] * MrPlow smakes SirFinkus upside the head with a printout of the rehash source
[15:15:28] <cmn32480> #smake SirFinkus
[15:15:11] <SirFinkus> why don't you just put it in THE CLOUD
[15:15:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> the remote backup box has to stay and nothing can run from it that we give a damn about.
[15:15:03] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: what are you using to serve the web frontend?
[15:15:03] <SirFinkus> I got an idea
[15:15:02] <Webbyatwork> SirFinkus, I quickly learned I would not want to be a ham radio guy. All they do is talk about how big their antennas are
[15:15:00] <SirFinkus> guys guys guys
[15:14:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> but what lives on the boxes that are NOT those five cannot be consolidated onto any of those five.
[15:14:23] * SirFinkus gives gravis some pants
[15:13:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> the five we cannot cut (load balancer, web front ends, db nodes) only the db nodes are pushing it on ram. the load balancer could be a raspberry pi if they sold vpses of those.
[15:13:31] <SirFinkus> *one
[15:13:27] <SirFinkus> the specific on he told me about
[15:13:19] <Runaway1956> And, the number "zed".
[15:13:08] <SirFinkus> it was a "read only" radio
[15:13:00] <Runaway1956> Today's show was brought to you by the word "curmudgeon".
[15:12:56] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: let's go with all of them
[15:12:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> on which?
[15:12:30] <Webbyatwork> For general checking it would have been fine
[15:12:16] <SirFinkus> I could have gotten that wrong
[15:12:11] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: also what requires so much RAM?
[15:12:11] <SirFinkus> I don't really know the specific details
[15:11:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> thought so
[15:11:39] <Webbyatwork> SirFinkus, works OK as a channel marker, but not great for testing. The russians are shit at maintaining their equipment
[15:11:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, cheers
[15:11:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, nah. turns out the funding cycle runs till the end of june and we generally have to remind people that tanstaafl
[15:11:27] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: it's $10 a month for ramnode
[15:10:37] <Gravis> well you are about to fall short, so hmm...
[15:10:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, what we could actually get rid of if we were seriously pressed are one load balancer and the staff server.
[15:10:11] <cmn32480> and the load balancer?
[15:10:08] <SirFinkus> my uncle used to work on shortwave radios and he'd tune into UVB-76 to test them
[15:10:03] <cmn32480> so both web front ends on one box?
[15:09:49] <cmn32480> I find that the cardboard gets chewy if they aren't done exactly right
[15:09:49] <Gravis> at the least, combine those 4 boxes into one
[15:09:29] * Runaway1956 salivates at the thought of roast boxen
[15:09:00] <Webbyatwork> right story submitted
[15:08:54] <Runaway1956> If one should die in a fire, the other boxen should survive
[15:08:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> might be $15
[15:08:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> least i think oxygen runs $10/mo
[15:08:40] <Runaway1956> Each individual container has it's own life - independent of all other boxen
[15:08:36] <cmn32480> but if you can find a VPS that sells in half boxes that arebn't shared, we will gladly look inot it. but we want the half that hasall the components, not the half that is all air.
[15:08:14] <Runaway1956> Don't think of them as boxes - think of them as containers.
[15:08:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> $10/mo isn't exactly going to break us anyway.
[15:08:04] <Gravis> ok seriously, a home PC can do that job without issue
[15:07:41] <cmn32480> they only come as whole things
[15:07:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ^^
[15:07:33] <cmn32480> becasue you can't buy a half a box in another datacenter.
[15:07:12] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: and that requres an entire box because?
[15:06:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, of course not. we're backing up the web frontend and the db
[15:06:29] * Runaway1956 notes that more boxen are good boxen
[15:06:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> unlike the prod servers, dev runs both the site and the db for the site. this takes a hell of a lot of ram relative to running either separately.
[15:05:47] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: are you backing up the ram? because storage is what offsite backups are for.
[15:05:31] * SirFinkus is glad prod and dev are on different boxes
[15:05:01] <cmn32480> really?
[15:04:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> the hell you say
[15:04:54] <SirFinkus> some of that pornography is EXTREMELY rare
[15:04:44] <Gravis> cmn32480: it doesn't take an entire box to do dev
[15:04:12] <SirFinkus> and the staff box is where everyone keeps their movie collections, can't get rid of that
[15:04:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> storage isn't the issue really, ram is.
[15:04:02] <cmn32480> you really want the developers playing on the production site?
[15:03:52] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: how much storage is actually needed?
[15:03:48] <cmn32480> are you f**king mad?
[15:03:42] <cmn32480> dev?
[15:03:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, offsite backup box going away is NOT going to happen.
[15:03:17] <Gravis> "staff box, dev box, irc+misc box, offsite backup box"
[15:03:15] <cmn32480> I vote for whichever one gravi's login information si stored on.
[15:02:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, which would you like to go away?
[15:02:12] <Gravis> i see. well, at the very least, cut four of those servers
[15:01:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now we have three? board members who get to vote on whatever they feel like voting on and two stockholders who have to be in unanimous agreement to get anything changed
[15:01:10] <SirFinkus> if there's a lawsuit or something
[15:01:02] <SirFinkus> also the staff shouldn't be personally liable
[15:00:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause we didn't want this venture set up to where one person could send it down the shitter.
[15:00:25] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: then why be a business?
[15:00:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you're a person, no.
[15:00:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you're a business, yes.
[14:59:56] <SirFinkus> yes
[14:59:44] <Gravis> it's less than $10K/year, so does the IRS even care?
[14:59:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> rather i'd write a perl script to do it for me
[14:58:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> if it were just paperwork i'd do it myself.
[14:58:53] <SirFinkus> I'd rather the staff concentrate on keeping the site running than filling out paperwork, even if it's free
[14:58:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> fees for each registration
[14:58:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, paperwork you have to pay for.
[14:58:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, yeah, i heard that too but there has to be something a wee bit easier or small charities could not exist.
[14:58:01] <Gravis> so it's paperwork. what's the problem?
[14:57:31] <nick> yeah
[14:57:14] <SirFinkus> as a non-profit
[14:57:02] <nick> if you want to accept donations
[14:56:56] <nick> if i recall, the core issue is, you have to register in every single state to be a non-profit/charity
[14:56:56] <SirFinkus> there was a lot of discussion about it when the site was just started
[14:56:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could see cutting one load balancer but the rest need to exist.
[14:56:22] <SirFinkus> he's right about the non-profit thing, it's a huge pita
[14:56:19] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[14:56:05] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: whatever, you accounting seems questionable and you should cut at least 4 of those servers
[14:55:58] <exec> └─ 13The Stupidly Simple Spy Messages No Computer Could Decode - The Daily Beast
[14:55:56] <TransBotula> ^ 03The Stupidly Simple Spy Messages No Computer Could Decode - The Daily Beast
[14:55:55] <Webbyatwork> right, daily beast is here: http://www.thedailybeast.com
[14:55:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> but cmn32480 is the one siphoning that off. they're HIS cats after all.
[14:55:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> that too
[14:55:17] <Webbyatwork> Also, a good one from feb, a Kennedys nephew writing about us and UK history with syria
[14:55:13] <SirFinkus> because TheMightyBuzzard couldn't siphon off money for the hookers and blow
[14:55:00] <nick> :D
[14:55:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, setting up as a non-profit takes HUGE amounts of money compared to what we handle.
[14:54:53] <Webbyatwork> OK, ill do it through the website
[14:54:48] <Runaway1956> Heh, I woke exec up
[14:54:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> hur hur
[14:54:38] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: why isn't it setup as a non-profit?
[14:54:33] <nick> and the editors don't appreciate it so much ;)
[14:54:28] <exec> error: unable to download source (get_redirected_url)
[14:54:26] <Runaway1956> ~submit or #submit
[14:54:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but you don't get the karma points for it
[14:54:24] <exec> usage: ~submit <url>
[14:54:23] <SirFinkus> ~submit
[14:54:07] <Webbyatwork> isn't there a bot command for this?
[14:53:59] <SirFinkus> doooo iiiiiiit
[14:53:59] <Webbyatwork> reet
[14:53:53] <nick> Webbyatwork, yes
[14:53:34] <Webbyatwork> should I post it?
[14:53:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be cheap accounting this year though. no stock issuance to account for like last year.
[14:53:31] <Runaway1956> You can't stop the signal, Mal!
[14:53:30] <Webbyatwork> I was interviewed for daily beast about 3 weeks back, have not submitted the article, as well... I'm in it
[14:52:43] * SirFinkus pauses utorrent
[14:52:28] <SirFinkus> oh, it's on my end
[14:52:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> and the accountant who does your taxes
[14:52:23] <Webbyatwork> the IRC box for freenode is probably the delay
[14:52:12] <Webbyatwork> SirFinkus, shouldn't site is pretty lightweight
[14:52:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> SoylentNews PBC. you take in money, you gotta pay the franchise fee to the state you incorporate in and then pay taxes like every other company.
[14:51:17] <SirFinkus> numbers stations are nightmare fuel
[14:51:11] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: taxes on what and license fees for what?
[14:51:07] <SirFinkus> oh, this stuff kicks ass
[14:50:52] <SirFinkus> the ironic bit is priyom.org takes forever to load
[14:50:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's just that our taxes and license fees fall due in the first half of the year.
[14:50:19] <Webbyatwork> Know that all to well running priyom.org
[14:50:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> the first half funding goal isn't half of what we need though. it's like 3/4 of what we need yearly.
[14:50:09] <Webbyatwork> You only have to be good at something to get haters
[14:49:58] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: well you are going to be when you don't meet your $1600 mark
[14:49:40] <Runaway1956> We do have some envious neighbors.
[14:49:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, we're not fans of downtime
[14:49:18] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: way too many boxes
[14:49:08] <SirFinkus> enemies then
[14:48:59] <Runaway1956> Soylent has no rivals, SirFinkus
[14:48:39] <Runaway1956> Don't let him fool you - it's the bait he throws in the water all the time - THAT'S expensive.
[14:48:32] <SirFinkus> for ddosing rival sites
[14:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> two web front ends, two db cluster nodes, two load balancers, staff box, dev box, irc+misc box, offsite backup box...
[14:48:24] <cmn32480> 100/20 at the office
[14:47:58] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: why so many?
[14:47:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> or was it eight
[14:47:49] <Gravis> wtf?
[14:47:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, ten or so servers mostly.
[14:47:39] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: too many VPSes?
[14:47:20] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: what is costing so much?
[14:47:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> £13.74 according to Google.
[14:47:10] <cmn32480> 50/50 at home
[14:47:06] <Runaway1956> HA! I should subscribe for gewg_
[14:46:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah that's like 18 EUR! oh wait you're in Britain aren't you?
[14:46:24] <Webbyatwork> only $20? subscribed
[14:46:20] <Runaway1956> passionately
[14:46:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's what she said
[14:46:03] <Runaway1956> hmmmm
[14:45:57] <Runaway1956> pipe
[14:45:55] <Runaway1956> fat
[14:45:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> 50/5Mbps here when i get better wifi signal than i'm currently getting.
[14:45:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> (wired, that is - LTE there is about the same as here.)
[14:45:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> I get like 35 Mbps down at home and I've forgotten what for upload.
[14:44:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ouch
[14:44:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> 10.30 Mbps on LTE, 7.93 Mbps on wifi. Work's upload isn't quite 2x the LTE upload. But hey, we're an organization that actually *generates* content (in addition to aggregating some other sources), so we actually need a fat pipe going out the door.
[14:42:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> har!
[14:42:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> I have faster download speed on LTE than on work's wifi
[14:41:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> I just got curious and ran a couple of speed tests on my phone
[14:41:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> one month to make another ~$1600. we should prolly throw up a reminder/beg post soon or we're going to fall short on the bills.
[14:39:18] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $1,414
[14:39:13] <Runaway1956> It's so slow, it takes a week to download a good ISO
[14:39:13] <SirFinkus> they haven't rolled out that "feature" in my area yet
[14:39:09] <Webbyatwork> Hopefully Ill get FTTP in 4 weeks
[14:39:04] <Runaway1956> Well, that's the only good thing about my ISP - no caps.
[14:39:00] <SirFinkus> I have a cap, but they've never enforced it
[14:38:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, no usage cap for us. i can download ALL OF THE THINGS
[14:38:41] <Webbyatwork> but only because I wrote a letter to my MP
[14:38:35] <SirFinkus> evil bastards
[14:38:31] <Webbyatwork> Currently running fibre down my road
[14:38:28] <SirFinkus> cockmast has done that too, but then they imposed a cap
[14:38:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. they just doubled our speeds here a month or so ago. no extra charge.
[14:38:06] <exec> └─ 13Netgear N600 4 Port Gigabit Wireless N Router WNDR3700V2 with DD WRT 0606449061345 | eBay
[14:38:04] <TransBotula> ^ 03Netgear N600 4 Port Gigabit Wireless N Router WNDR3700V2 with DD WRT 0606449061345 | eBay
[14:38:03] <Runaway1956> http://www.ebay.com
[14:37:55] <SirFinkus> I'm stuck with "latest news story on soylent"
[14:37:44] <SirFinkus> oh really?
[14:37:38] <SirFinkus> and you just KNOW they'll fuck it up
[14:37:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> my isp rocks.
[14:37:30] <Webbyatwork> Old and rich is a good enough excuse for me
[14:37:20] <SirFinkus> giving money to satan?
[14:37:15] <SirFinkus> but your ISP?
[14:36:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i have the tools for either. i've just had quite enough of crawling in attics and under floors, thanks. i'm old and happy to pay someone else to do it.
[14:36:56] <Webbyatwork> Just make sure to vulcan tape it if its outside
[14:36:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Comcast Raises Data Cap to 1 TB Per Month - http://sylnt.us - better-than-nothing
[14:36:23] <Webbyatwork> coax is easier
[14:35:40] <SirFinkus> same shit, different tool
[14:35:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[14:35:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> It sounded more like he wanted to run coaxial than Ethernet.
[14:35:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> repeater would be the way to go but i don't have an N router that'll take dd-wrt
[14:35:05] <Webbyatwork> lol
[14:35:00] <SirFinkus> and he calls himself "mighty"
[14:34:59] <Runaway1956> Spiders are nice, I agree with Andy
[14:34:53] <SirFinkus> hahahaha, he's calling his isp to run a little ethernet AND he's afraid of spiders
[14:34:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> You should pay them a visit.
[14:34:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> spiders are lovely people.
[14:34:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could, yes, if i wanted to crawl around under the house with all the spiders.
[14:34:16] <Webbyatwork> or build a yagi out of a pringles can?
[14:34:08] <SirFinkus> *can't
[14:34:03] <SirFinkus> you can run cable yourself?
[14:33:39] <Runaway1956> Putting a repeater in the middle might be cheaper, if you rely on the ISP to do the work.
[14:32:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's currently like 20 yards and a wall or two away and on bad signal days wifi tween it and my desktop is half the speed of my internet connection
[14:31:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... wonder how much my isp would charge me to come in here and run cable so i could relocate my router...
[14:26:26] <Webbyatwork> Not intentionally, but we did put a bug on his collar
[14:25:54] <Runaway1956> My dog? What's my dog got to do with it? Is he snitching on me?
[14:25:46] * TheMightyBuzzard nods sagely
[14:25:36] <Webbyatwork> and no one knows your a dog
[14:25:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> the internet, where men are men, women are men, and children are fbi agents
[14:24:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like sedbot == dead for good
[14:24:52] <Runaway1956> ain't no women on the internet, gotta be a guy
[14:24:27] <Webbyatwork> s/i/he
[14:24:15] <Webbyatwork> I make soap and post to soylent at night?
[14:23:53] <Runaway1956> I expect that he has schizophrenia as well as a split personality.
[14:23:38] <Webbyatwork> He did rather set himself up to be trolled
[14:23:15] <Runaway1956> Post Honey-comb! SLURP!
[14:23:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> "i will take no steps at all to verify my pseudo-identity." does not jive with "stop pretending to be me!"
[14:22:21] <Webbyatwork> Runaway1956, sorry if my journel entry was depressing. Had a bad few weeks and it felt like a good place to get it off my chest
[14:21:37] * MrPlow smakes Runaway1956 upside the head with a half of a leftover pizza
[14:21:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Runaway1956 a half of a leftover pizza
[14:21:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's okay, we still lurve him.
[14:21:00] <Runaway1956> The bots are stingy with the food.
[14:20:49] <Runaway1956> #hungry
[14:20:29] <Runaway1956> ~hungry
[14:20:26] <Webbyatwork> He was just as odd on the last days of the green site
[14:20:10] <Runaway1956> Who has the food today?
[14:19:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's never been on staff, just a regular contributor who absolutely refuses to log in under any circumstances.
[14:19:26] <nick> trolls are too lazy to put a link in their comments apparently?
[14:19:18] <nick> no, at least not that i know, but he uses originalowner_ and links it to the last comment or so he made as gewg_
[14:19:08] <Webbyatwork> Right
[14:19:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, as a user, i suppose
[14:18:51] <Runaway1956> So, the rumors that some biker made an honest anon of him are false?
[14:18:42] <Webbyatwork> Yeah, thats the bit that confuses me, was he involved in founding of soylent?
[14:18:22] <nick> he continues to post anon as OriginalOwner_ or whatever
[14:17:46] <Runaway1956> I think gewg_ met a virile biker, and ran off with him.
[14:17:31] <Webbyatwork> gewg_ AFAIK was posting anon with a sig and got trolled a lot
[14:17:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, he's a douchebag in his other opinions, that he's being a douchebag on this is not surprising.
[14:16:50] <nick> what happened with gewg_?
[14:16:45] * Runaway1956 stops reading journal entries - to depressing . . . .
[14:16:30] <Webbyatwork> I do wonder what really happened with gewg_ though, I was not around for it
[14:15:36] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard, dont really appreciate DeathMonkey acting dumb on why he got modbanned
[14:15:33] <Runaway1956> I like special people - they are so easy to bait. One day, they'll make special-people-baiting a crime, just like bear baiting.
[14:15:17] <Webbyatwork> I'm glad to have people like MDC around, they certainly help give some perspective on life
[14:15:09] <nick> i enjoy his ramblings though
[14:14:39] <nick> cmn32480, he is
[14:11:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> perils of breaking one of the two rules we have.
[14:11:34] <cmn32480> MDC is a special kind of person.
[14:09:54] <Runaway1956> "TMB rocks, don't he?"
[14:09:46] <TransBotula> ^ 03SN journal I got Mod-Banned by the Mighty Buzzard 04(3 comments)
[14:09:43] <exec> └─ 13Journal of DeathMonkey (1380)
[14:09:40] <Runaway1956> It may be deemed immature, but I couldn't resist making a post here - as AC - https://soylentnews.org
[14:06:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> and that's saying nothing at all of me before coffee's made.
[14:04:53] <Runaway1956> Ya know, some of our Soylentils are kinda scary - Michael David asked a woman out for coffee, and he finds it worthy of an internet journal entry
[14:02:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> been a long time since i seen bruce leroy whoop some ass
[14:00:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> though props to lunchmoney lewis for the "the last dragon" reference
[14:00:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> that should have returned a devo video, damnit
[14:00:07] <Runaway1956> ~G'mornin TMB - what's not "right"?
[13:59:16] <Runaway1956> Topdawg - he's risen +14 in 24 hours
[13:59:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> well that's not right
[13:58:58] <exec> └─ 13LunchMoney Lewis - Whip It! (Lyric Video) ft. Chloe Angelides - YouTube
[13:58:54] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[13:58:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube whip it
[13:58:32] <Runaway1956> EricAlbers?
[13:58:26] <Runaway1956> Ah - HAH! We seem to have a new victim on the team, there are now 40 names - but, which one is the new one?
[13:58:24] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - did you get him a whip to go with his buggy?
[13:53:33] <Runaway1956> Yah - I see it's supposed to be dark tonight . . . .
[13:53:10] <exec> 10Dallas, TX, USA - currently 67°F / 19°C, sunny, wind SE at 8 mph, humidity 67% - Thursday sunny (66°F:86°F / 19°C:30°C), Friday thunderstorm (67°F:79°F / 19°C:26°C), Saturday partly cloudy (60°F:84°F / 16°C:29°C), Sunday sunny (57°F:80°F / 14°C:27°C)
[13:53:08] <Runaway1956> ~weather
[13:49:22] -!- Runaway1956 [Runaway1956!~sabayonus@162.216.hx.gvl] has joined #Soylent
[13:39:55] Arc| is now known as Popeidol
[13:39:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> MrPlow got surprisingly fast when i started porting him to C. and just as buggy.
[13:38:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, most things are
[13:38:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> local script is faster than exec
[13:38:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> there we go
[13:38:05] <exec> └─ 13Diamond Plate - "At the Mountains of Madness" - YouTube
[13:38:02] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[13:38:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> #youtube Diamond Plate At the Mountains of Madness
[13:37:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> you fallin down on the job, yo
[13:37:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, why'd i hafta enable exec's titles?
[13:36:51] <exec> └─ 13Aqua - Barbie Girl - YouTube
[13:36:48] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[13:36:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube barbie girl
[13:36:26] <exec> titles enabled for 10#Soylent
[13:36:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~title on
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[13:36:20] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[13:36:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> #youtube Necroshine
[13:36:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> hey look, linktitle.pl isn't in ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun
[13:34:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg... random weirdness
[13:33:58] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[13:33:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube you're so vain
[13:31:47] <chromas> that cookie is totally fake cgi
[13:31:46] <Bender> karma - dndhumor: 1
[13:31:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> dndhumor++
[13:31:17] <Webbyatwork> ouch
[13:31:15] <Webbyatwork> Turns out the cookie jar was a mimic
[13:30:47] * chromas puts his nuts into firefox's cookie jar
[13:30:34] <Webbyatwork> Thats the other half, try and avoid logging in to google and block a lot of their domains
[13:30:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> dafuq
[13:30:17] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[13:30:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube c is for cookie
[13:30:06] <chromas> don't forget the cookies
[13:29:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> they also go by user-agent apparently though because i almost never get suggestions for other people in the house.
[13:29:36] <Webbyatwork> its profile on us must be pretty mucked up
[13:29:28] <Webbyatwork> Not bothered by them, I find it more amusing that yt can't figure out that theres 3 users in the household
[13:29:16] <chromas> set up a gewgle account then the suggestions should only work for that account
[13:29:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. would fix youtube suggestions as well.
[13:28:45] <Webbyatwork> TheMightyBuzzard, I do for anything important
[13:28:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Webbyatwork, use a vpn for yourself
[13:27:41] <chromas> change
[13:27:33] <chromas> you tube is just giving you what obama promised
[13:27:27] <Webbyatwork> Youtube can't decide who is who, so I get Rust and My little pony video suggestions
[13:27:10] <Webbyatwork> Heh, try having some kids and a fixed home IP
[13:26:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, youtube just tried to play nickleback at me
[13:23:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure they do. behind their conky hud
[13:23:34] <chromas> you just need more windows
[13:23:21] <chromas> but no true nerd has his wallpaper exposed anyhow
[13:22:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> chromas: ha ha ha...No.
[13:22:50] <chromas> by then it'll be too late
[13:22:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> or... i could turn my webcam around and use facial recognition to swap them out whenever the kids enter the room!
[13:22:33] <chromas> so right now it's one11111111
[13:22:27] <chromas> he just adds a one to the end
[13:22:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> TheMightyBuzzard: If roomie is a Doctor Who fan, set it to the Weeping Angels...and make sure it rotates through about a dozen different pics.
[13:22:04] * Webbyatwork notes down that andy changes his password on the first of the month
[13:21:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'll choose a new one on Monday since it's first work day of a new month. (I'll also change all my passwords.)
[13:21:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should set my wallpaper to rotate between something innocuous and naked chicks, depending on if the roomie's kids are due to be here.
[13:21:20] <Webbyatwork> Mines currently a Dark Souls 1 oil painting some fan did
[13:20:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> My wallpaper for this month is a cartoon of Grumpy Cat labeled "I had fun once... it was awful".
[13:20:37] <chromas> see, microsoft had the desktop cloud idea before teh cloud was even cloud
[13:20:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, give me back my naked chicks!
[13:20:26] <FatPhil> I have a brief recollection of a briefcase, but haven't used windows for nearly 20 years
[13:20:10] * chromas sets everyone's wallpaper to clouds
[13:20:04] <nick> well there we go, learned something new
[13:19:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, ^^ ninja'd
[13:19:40] <Webbyatwork> never really worked though
[13:19:35] <Webbyatwork> chromas, it was for multiple devices, network share syncing etc
[13:19:25] <Webbyatwork> Thanks, now I feel old
[13:19:20] <chromas> still not sure what they did
[13:19:12] <chromas> I forgot about those
[13:19:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ooooh, retro
[13:19:09] <chromas> oooh
[13:18:58] <Webbyatwork> FatPhil, should have submitted a "My Briefcase" folder
[13:18:56] <FatPhil> NFC, I don't use systemd
[13:18:48] <FatPhil> Who in their right mind would NACK a patch to add a porn directory?
[13:18:32] <chromas> what do they do?
[13:18:20] <FatPhil> has about 10 defined. Clearly needs more. ;-)
[13:17:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ?!
[13:16:42] <FatPhil> src/systemd/sd-path.h: SD_PATH_USER_DOCUMENTS,
[13:16:42] <FatPhil> src/path/path.c: [SD_PATH_USER_DOCUMENTS] = "user-documents",
[13:16:41] <Webbyatwork> systemd, the best way to derail the conversation when people start bashing windows ;-)
[13:16:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, don't do it! wipe it and install slackware!
[13:16:11] * chromas is surrounded by onions, wheat and wine
[13:16:02] <FatPhil> Ugh, feeling dirty, cloning the systemd tree onto this machine...
[13:15:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, now i want a parfait
[13:15:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> it has layers. like an onion.
[13:15:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, that's part of the joke
[13:14:39] <chromas> systemd has document directories?
[13:14:00] <chromas> I imagine the one on the right is js itself and the one on the left just imports jquery
[13:13:59] <FatPhil> in the same way there's "Music" and "Videos" and "Documents"
[13:13:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha
[13:13:43] <FatPhil> I was going to submit a patch to systemd to add fixed directories for "Porn" and "ASCII Art"
[13:13:13] <FatPhil> Shit, I missed April 1 again
[13:12:57] <FatPhil> both are real
[13:12:55] <Webbyatwork> FatPhil, much agreed.
[13:12:48] <FatPhil> I hate "my ..." in modern GUIs too
[13:12:47] <chromas> is that a real book?
[13:12:21] * TheMightyBuzzard laughs
[13:12:12] <chromas> it's the word itself, "my", like "my computer" or "mysql" #triggered2016
[13:12:06] <FatPhil> I did a bit of TCL when I was a masochist. Horrible language.
[13:11:43] <FatPhil> http://engineering.wix.com
[13:11:35] <Webbyatwork> first time using a dereferenced language, certainly tripped me up a lot
[13:11:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, nothin wrong with that once you know what it means.
[13:11:17] <Webbyatwork> Using TCL a lot due to F5's and irules here
[13:11:03] <chromas> the absolutely worst thing in perl is the "my" keyword
[13:10:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> not in a couple decades
[13:10:38] <Webbyatwork> ever tried TCL?
[13:10:37] <FatPhil> I hate the "OO" in perl, certainly. Total kludge.
[13:10:28] <Webbyatwork> lol
[13:10:20] * TheMightyBuzzard gets the dry heaves
[13:10:05] <chromas> what about javascript?
[13:09:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, it is and likely will remain the best text processing language ever invented.
[13:09:44] <chromas> you don't like perl's objects?
[13:09:16] <FatPhil> Trying to wean myself of it, it's a dreadful language if you're objective about it.
[13:09:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's teh awesome for stuff what don't need to stay running in memory and needs to mangle text like a boss.
[13:08:50] <FatPhil> if it can't be done on one shell line, it gets perl scripted, generally.
[13:08:12] <FatPhil> it's my 2nd most used language
[13:08:09] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 232
[13:08:09] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard++
[13:08:03] <Subsentient> FatPhil: Not a fan of Perl?
[13:08:00] * TheMightyBuzzard gives FatPhil a perl necklace
[13:07:36] <FatPhil> perlvert
[13:06:31] <chromas> from the just-nuke-it dept
[13:05:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - State Department Furiously Denies Promising "No Boots on the Ground" in Syria - http://sylnt.us - using-doublespeak-out-of-both-sides-of-your-moth
[13:04:50] <chromas> and an emacs plugin or whatever they're called
[13:04:06] <Subsentient> I also plan to write an ncurses gui for Event Horizon
[13:03:44] <chromas> SubTK
[13:03:41] <Subsentient> After C++, I'm going to get back into Perl, which I really like, and then probably Objective C just because I can.
[13:02:56] <Subsentient> gtk3 is a clusterfuck. The API is nicer than 2 (though all the 2 api stuff is still there and usable), but it's hideous, removes functionality, and tries to force its own windowing style onto its applications.
[13:02:53] <chromas> Subsentient: fork it yosef and call it EVTK+2
[13:02:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally, i don't like either gtk3 or qt
[13:02:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> too many folks HATE gtk3
[13:02:02] <Subsentient> I don't count on that.
[13:01:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> someone'll fork it
[13:01:49] <chromas> gimp doesn't even do 3 yet
[13:01:35] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: they are going to pull the plug on 2 soon.
[13:01:22] <chromas> windows, linux and the bsds are the only things that count
[13:01:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> use 2 then
[13:01:20] <Subsentient> On Mac OS X, it's hideous
[13:01:12] <Subsentient> Version 3 doesn't even work right statically linked on Windows.
[13:01:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ...
[13:00:39] <Subsentient> GTK, especially version 3, is not very portable.
[13:00:16] <Subsentient> I like gtk's API a lot better, but I'll probably have to write the GUI in QT for portability's sake.
[12:59:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[12:59:17] <Subsentient> libevhz == functionality library of Event Horizon, all GUIs will plug into it
[12:58:38] <Subsentient> libevhz is actually kinda pretty
[12:58:29] <Subsentient> the mail library I'm using, that libevhz plugs into
[12:58:19] <Subsentient> **
[12:58:18] <Subsentient> libetpan
[12:58:16] <Subsentient> lol
[12:58:15] <Subsentient> not libevhz
[12:58:13] <Subsentient> I mean
[12:57:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i get like one or two problems done then my brain resists gear switching so i generally fuck off after that.
[12:57:40] <Subsentient> Truly hideous API
[12:57:35] <Subsentient> libevhz is one ugly baby
[12:57:28] <Subsentient> yup, well, the incoming side.
[12:57:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh?
[12:56:45] <Subsentient> I got a good chunk of the mail core written.
[12:56:38] <Subsentient> Writing event horizon in C++.
[12:56:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> #join #test
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[12:56:03] * Subsentient is compiling as C++11 because there's a few features he likes
[12:55:45] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Almost got C++98 down to my satisfaction. It's a good language for someone lazy as shit like me who still wants compiled stuff.
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[12:55:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> #quit
[12:55:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh bleh, i have MrPlow running wit debug flags built in.
[12:55:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> shush up, you. i am teh conqueror of C/perl combinations
[12:54:56] <chromas> you should probably wipe
[12:54:23] * Subsentient rips a juicy wet one on TheMightyBuzzard's face
[12:54:03] <MrPlow> [2016-04-27 21:25:52] #Soylent <NCommander> Subsentient, surviving :/
[12:54:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> #seen NCommander
[12:45:33] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v nick] by Aphrodite
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[12:44:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> not what i was looking for but it's a legit result
[12:44:32] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[12:44:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube i am the champions
[12:44:29] <Webbyatwork> MOAR COFFEE
[12:44:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, he's fixed
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[12:37:40] * cmn32480 loves seeing confusion... it makes him feel not so alone
[12:37:03] <chromas> yeah. I had to switch away from the channel just so I could switch back
[12:36:41] <cmn32480> you thought wrong
[12:36:26] <chromas> thought this was #test and was about to switch to this channel
[12:36:13] * chromas derps
[12:35:53] <chromas> ##smakeadd a stack frame
[12:35:50] <chromas> #smakeadd a stack frame
[12:34:11] * chromas reserves "streaming audio" for a later joke
[12:31:27] <chromas> nah, it's okay; just only allow outbound packets
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[12:30:48] <Webbyatwork> switched off by default ;-)
[12:30:42] <Webbyatwork> Well, my sex life is like OpenBSD
[12:29:13] <Webbyatwork> wouldn't norton just deny access? Until you open the firewall port and then it still does not work and you get an infection anyway?
[12:28:53] <chromas> makes the ladies feel protected when they see my toolbar
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[12:27:29] <chromas> also causes a bit of swapping
[12:26:30] <chromas> slows me to a crawl and takes up 3" but it's totally worth the protection
[12:24:26] <chromas> I run Norton down there
[12:24:25] <Webbyatwork> FatPhil, not sure which dives youve been too, but not in amsterdam
[12:23:42] <FatPhil> you get the infections for free
[12:23:08] <Webbyatwork> shame they don't do buy one get one free offers ;-)
[12:21:33] <chromas> put them together and they overcharge you less
[12:21:12] <chromas> that's called bundling, just like cable, internet & phone
[12:17:27] <Webbyatwork> I can get a suck and fuck for 50 euros in amsterdam
[12:17:16] <Webbyatwork> 1g a bud? What a rip man... Thats 30-45 euros
[12:11:41] <chromas> we need a barter bot with exchange rates
[12:11:03] <chromas> one blowjob is worth three green buds or two crack rocks
[12:10:18] <chromas> they're always after me lucky charms
[12:10:16] <Webbyatwork> I need to know the exchange rate here
[12:10:09] <Webbyatwork> how many weeds to the gold to the blowjobs?
[12:10:01] * chromas paints his gold with lead
[12:09:52] <crutchy> the greeks made that mistake
[12:09:45] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, yeah you gotta be careful of that gold painted lead
[12:09:30] <Webbyatwork> same with diamonds
[12:09:26] <crutchy> so we can therefore deduce that gold is backed by the full faith and credit of blowjobs :p
[12:09:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, that's only cause people think gold is worth something. there but for the color goes lead.
[12:08:37] <chromas> sex has inherent value. sex should be currency
[12:08:36] <crutchy> and blowjobs have intrinsic value
[12:08:18] <crutchy> yes that too :)
[12:08:08] <chromas> mostly because they can then trade it for blowjobs
[12:07:48] <crutchy> don't need no government or laws to buy shit with gold. people see a piece of it and they cream their pants
[12:07:44] * chromas uses bullion to prop up the coffee table
[12:06:30] * crutchy drops a gold bar on tmb's foot
[12:05:56] <chromas> entities in general, I mean. they all have to take US dollars (at least in the us) but they don't have to take debit cards or anything
[12:05:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> Webbyatwork: Funny story - I actually paid my US taxes this year with credit; but it looked like a check (cheque?) to the IRS.
[12:04:52] <Webbyatwork> actually you can't as a salaried employee as its taken from pay via the PAYE system
[12:04:26] <Webbyatwork> Don't think thats allowed in the UK, but ive never tried
[12:04:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> here, have a slip of paper. we swear it's good money. you can trust us, we're the government.
[12:04:10] <chromas> and it's not required
[12:04:09] <Webbyatwork> You can pay taxes with credit?
[12:03:57] <chromas> same guarantee with btc as you'd have with them taking credit cards or whatever. they just need a terminal to handle it
[12:03:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> SFW? it's still monopoly money. that people have to pay taxes with it only means the government agrees to take it.
[12:03:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> So there's guaranteed to be at least one entity accepting US dollars as payment. No such guarantee with BTC.
[12:02:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> TheMightyBuzzard: Yeah, but the US government will send men with guns to put me in prison if I don't pay my US taxes in US dollars. And most people value their freedom.
[12:02:20] * chromas also passes out Butt Bucks
[12:02:07] * chromas passes out Bart Bucks
[12:02:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing on this earth has intrinsic value. value is subjective.
[12:01:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, that's what ALL value is based on.
[12:01:41] <chromas> so it's just like real money then ;)
[12:01:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> The fact that it's "value" is *entirely* based on the perception that is *has* value is IMO its biggest issue.
[12:01:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i'm not waiting around 10m to pay for shit
[12:00:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, bitcoin transactions take ~10m to get one verification. you could scam the entire fuck out of anyone who allowed instant bitcoin transactions.
[12:00:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'd say that "inherently deflationary" is actually one of the lesser of BTC's problems.
[12:00:26] <Webbyatwork> and it scares the CRAP out of them
[12:00:21] <Webbyatwork> so you explain fractional reserve banking and inflation
[12:00:12] <Webbyatwork> then you realise that most people just don't understand economics
[12:00:00] <Webbyatwork> Everyone raves about it, then you try and explain that its a deflationary currency
[11:59:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> Bitcoin is the worst idea in money since fiat currency.
[11:58:54] <cmn32480> and further, what's a bri-and-mortar store?
[11:58:51] <chromas> digital toilet paper
[11:58:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> (Turns out my local burrito shop has a "Bitcoin" option in their tablet-based point-of-sale system.)
[11:58:39] <cmn32480> what's bitcoin?
[11:58:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> If so, what's the process for doing that like?
[11:58:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> any of you Soylentils ever use Bitcoin to pay for something in a brick-and-mortar store?
[11:56:58] * exec figuratively runs the Installshield Wizard to set up a wallet of windows 98 for cmn32480
[11:56:56] <crutchy> ~g'day cmn32480 o/
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[11:46:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> #join #test
[11:46:26] * exec hideously cracks open a pair of used panties full of lima beans for cmn32480
[11:46:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[11:46:20] * exec ironically farts a pile of null terminators at crutchy
[11:46:18] <cmn32480> ~gday crutchy
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[11:46:10] * exec abnormally embiggens a bathtub of pain with TheMightyBuzzard
[11:46:08] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:45:55] <cmn32480> Turn out the lights!
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[11:45:31] <cmn32480> I may be crazy.... but it just may be a looooooonatic you're looking for....
[11:43:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube you may be right
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[11:43:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> #quit
[11:42:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, weird
[11:42:34] <MrPlow> )
[11:42:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube you may be right
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[11:41:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> #quit
[11:41:12] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[11:40:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube you may be right
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[11:37:57] <crutchy> making baby bots
[11:37:42] <crutchy> he's hanging out with ciri
[11:37:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair point
[11:36:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> maybe he just wants to find a quiet spot to go skinny dipping.
[11:35:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> who said he took your boat out to *fish*?
[11:34:54] <crutchy> he'll just #smake dem fooshes
[11:34:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> joke's on him. fishing's sposed to be dead all day.
[11:34:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - High School Student Expelled for Sending Spam from Hacked Accounts - http://sylnt.us - should-have-done-a-'fund-raiser'-for-the-football-team
[11:34:16] <crutchy> maybe that's just what he wants you to think. in the meantime he's taken your boat out
[11:33:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause i am da boss of him
[11:33:18] <crutchy> yeah. like, why the fuck did he call tmb master?
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[11:31:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> MrPlöw ääpëärs tø håvë sømē īssüës thįs mørnïng.
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[11:31:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> #quit
[11:31:26] <crutchy> poor MrPlow
[11:30:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> you goin down, MrPlow
[11:30:07] * MrPlow smakes himself upside the head with a red Swingline stapler
[11:30:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake himself
[11:29:55] <MrPlow> 0)|
[11:29:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube you may be right
[10:57:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, no, wrong channel
[10:57:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, did i comment out my debug statements?
[10:57:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ##seen #test X
[10:56:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> ##seen X #test
[10:56:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> almost smoke time here again too
[10:37:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[10:36:57] <Webbyatwork> cooffee and a smoke, damn good idea BRB
[10:35:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmon, coffee n adderall... kick in or i'm goin back to sleep
[10:26:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2510
[10:26:57] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:26:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2509
[10:26:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[09:33:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FDA Panel Recommends Rejection of Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy Treatment - http://sylnt.us
[09:25:35] <FatPhil> better to be official, than just hacked.
[09:24:15] <FatPhil> So we knew this was coming.
[09:23:58] <FatPhil> Ug. My job is email. We've been pestered by big ISPs for a "legal interception" feature for many months.
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[08:45:35] <Webbyatwork> Greetings programs
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[07:51:57] <crutchy> britain should stop being a bitch of brussels
[07:31:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Theresa May: UK Should Stay in the EU, but Discard the European Convention on Human Rights - http://sylnt.us - human-rights-are-a-privilege
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[05:29:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Super-Resolution Restoration Reveals Finer Details of Mars - http://sylnt.us - get-a-crapton-of-GPU's
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[03:58:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Romero and Carmack (the other one) Together Again - http://sylnt.us - good-fun-fighting-the-baddies
[03:00:05] <takyon> wat
[03:00:03] <takyon> way
[02:41:32] * chromas is reminded of Pop Dawgg, the Poop Cola Gangsta Spectre o' Defeat, in effect
[02:39:10] * exec suspiciously internalizes a D cup of poop cola in sir
[02:39:08] <chromas> ~g'night sir
[02:39:03] <chromas> I wonder if systemd's implementation has those flaws :D
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[02:38:40] * exec clumsily embiggens an attack helicopter of eyeball jelly with #soylent
[02:38:38] <Bytram> ~gnight #soylent
[02:38:28] <Bytram> time to move on...
[02:31:18] <TransBotula> ^ 03Time for a patch: six vulns fixed in NTP daemon • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[02:31:16] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[02:27:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fisker Automotive Comes Back Under New Name, Plans to Launch Electric Car - http://sylnt.us - good-luck-with-that
[02:12:02] * Bytram would sure like to know why his connection now keeps dropping.
[02:09:24] <TransBotula> ^ 03H.R.699 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Email Privacy Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
[02:09:23] <Bytram> https://www.congress.gov
[02:09:21] <SirFinkus> better than nothing I suppose
[02:09:20] <Bytram> and, for that matter, how much of it will remain intact if it should ultimately become a law?
[02:09:02] <SirFinkus> they just pull everything off the wire anyway
[02:08:57] <SirFinkus> shitty, nsa gives no fucks
[02:08:14] <Bytram> looks like it is real... now the question is how *good* is it at its stated purpose?
[02:07:49] <TransBotula> ^ 03US House unanimously passed bill requiring warrants for e-mail | Ars Technica
[02:07:48] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[02:07:20] <TransBotula> ^ 03America edges closer to get-a-proper-warrant-to-read-my-email law • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[02:07:19] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[02:06:54] <Bender> karma - forbes: -3
[02:06:54] <chromas> forbes-- # quote of the day page redirect
[02:06:21] <Bytram> I dunno.
[02:06:10] <chromas> or does it feature an unnoticed cross-fingers clause?
[02:05:21] <chromas> is it real?
[02:04:58] <TransBotula> ^ 03House Passes Bill Requiring A Warrant Before Feds Read Your Email Without Ever Telling You
[02:04:57] <Bytram> on a positive note: http://www.forbes.com
[02:04:00] * Bytram slaps his tail in warning
[02:03:46] <Bytram> iow you can charge it safely, inductively. Just don't use the connector.
[02:03:35] * chromas nicknames it the beaver bill
[02:03:12] <Bytram> or a real one that charges by induction as well as your special connector?
[02:02:39] <Bytram> or, should I say: "gnawed gnawed" at my privacy
[02:02:25] <chromas> give them a fake phone with a charged capacitor hooked to the connector
[02:02:05] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:01:40] <SirFinkus> I'm under no illusions, they just want to root through your phone
[02:00:50] <Bytram> hand it to your passenger? I was trying to operate safely and had *them* do the texting.
[01:59:56] <chromas> even if I slip it into my pocket before they get there?
[01:59:55] <SirFinkus> I guess I'm fucked because they won't believe me
[01:59:45] <SirFinkus> other concern: what if I don't have a cell phone?
[01:59:24] <SirFinkus> if you don't, your license gets suspended
[01:59:13] <SirFinkus> they're trying to make it so if you're in a crash, they will take your phone and hook it to a machine that will check if you've been texting while driving
[01:58:37] <SirFinkus> and people STILL fall for this shit
[01:58:23] <SirFinkus> EVERY DAMN TIME
[01:58:20] <SirFinkus> "The proposed legislation faces hurdles to becoming a law, including privacy concerns. But Félix W. Ortiz, a Democratic assemblyman who was a sponsor of the bipartisan Textalyzer bill, said it would not give the police access to the contents of any emails or texts. It would simply give them a way to catch multitasking drivers, he said."
[01:53:55] <takyon> jjgddggsdigjigjsi
[01:53:54] <takyon> content
[01:53:44] <Subsentient> jrhfgsjhdewjglkjehwdkrjdkjfhvweksdjfchkjhedkjfwrhfkjhweskj
[01:53:41] <Subsentient> takyon: amen
[01:43:41] <takyon> jjlnllnlnllnnlnklklnlk
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[00:56:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SWIFT: Fraudulent Messages Sent Over International Bank Transfer System - http://sylnt.us - don't-pass-the-buck
[00:54:46] <takyon> makemakemakemakemakemakemakemake
[00:54:34] <takyon> uh yeah i saw it
[00:30:29] <TransBotula> ^✓ 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:1, Redundant)
[00:30:29] <Gravis> takyon: this: https://soylentnews.org
[00:24:28] <TransBotula> ^ 03Next Big Future: European space agency will use four larger ion thrusters
[00:24:27] <takyon> http://nextbigfuture.com
[00:23:42] <TransBotula> ^ 03Next Big Future: First drone command center installed on a Aircraft Carrier
[00:23:41] <takyon> http://nextbigfuture.com
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[00:14:49] <StankHo> Chat.soylentnews.org? It's muthafuckin IRC
[00:13:19] <StankHo> Sup bitxhes.
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