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[00:04:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> happy full belly. ready for a nap now.
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[01:42:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmon bedtime...
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[02:13:57] * Subsentient whips TheMightyBuzzard with an ethernet cable
[02:15:45] <chromas> Subsentient—he really whips the buzzard's ass!
[02:16:08] <Subsentient> chromas: hiyah
[02:16:13] <chromas> 'sup
[02:16:29] <chromas> How's SubLinux?
[02:16:39] <Subsentient> chromas: Was contemplating writing a custom mail storage library for Event Horizon, but I guess I'll be doing sqlite.
[02:17:22] <Subsentient> chromas: SubLinux 2 is what I'm still running. I have an agenda layed out now, Epoch revamp, Packrat completion, then SubLinux 3 compilation.
[02:17:23] <chromas> ~first nick=Subsentient since=2016-02-01 message=Event Horizon
[02:17:32] <exec> 03[2016-03-16 11:54:2] #Soylent <Subsentient> I'm going to go into business for myself. In the planning stages of a custom mail client called Event Horizon. It'll be able to permanently black hole and delete matching messages (whether "spam" or not) with one click.
[02:17:39] <chromas> ah
[02:18:01] <chromas> oh yeah, Opera Mail used a db engine of some sort; it was pretty nifty. They changed it though
[02:18:16] <chromas> Folders were virtual, so mails could show up in more than one
[02:18:32] <chromas> not open sores though
[02:19:47] <Subsentient> chromas: I've decided Epoch needs a heavy revamp. Codebase will be converted to C++, and dependency and parallelism support will be added.
[02:20:16] <chromas> ahhh, sheeeeit
[02:20:28] <chromas> Next thing I know, you'll be rewriting it all in perl
[02:21:19] <Subsentient> chromas: lol, no. It's not a rewrite, it's going to have lots of components gutted and rewritten though.
[02:21:49] <chromas> Will it have irc and email integration?
[02:21:56] <Subsentient> chromas: lol
[02:22:02] <chromas> you have all those projects; no reason to not integrate them all while you're at it
[02:22:08] <chromas> Subsentientd
[02:22:19] <Subsentient> lol
[02:22:34] <Subsentient> That'd be a bit Poettering-esque, don't you think?
[02:23:23] * chromas hears rats poettering in the walls
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[02:28:00] <Subsentient> chromas: Epoch must always remain easy to use and lightweight. Dependencies are evil, and Epoch won't gain any.
[02:28:52] <Subsentient> dbus and PAM can go to the deepest reaches of hell.
[02:32:49] <chromas> dbus loves you
[02:32:57] <chromas> what if dbus gets into the kernel though?
[02:33:57] <Subsentient> I'll disable it at compile time.
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[02:46:44] <SirFinkus> ~folding-rank
[02:46:47] <exec> 071201
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[03:16:10] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[03:29:51] <SirFinkus> drinking time
[03:37:31] <Bytram> ~rsp r
[03:37:40] <Bytram> ~rps r
[03:37:42] <exec> rank for martyb: 14 - http://ix.io
[03:38:47] <Bytram> crutchy: you might want to take a look at what is currently being presented on that ~rps output link: http://ix.io ...
[03:39:32] <Bytram> I see a data structure containing adverbs, actions, containers, and beverages. :(
[03:41:37] <chromas> Looks normal here
[03:42:08] <Bytram> try hitting Ctrl+F5
[03:42:18] <Bytram> here are the first few lines of what I see:
[03:42:19] <Bytram> {
[03:42:19] <Bytram> "adverbs": [
[03:42:19] <Bytram> "brazenly",
[03:42:19] <Bytram> "spontaneously",
[03:42:19] <Bytram> "prematurely",
[03:42:21] <Bytram> "unjustifiably",
[03:42:23] <Bytram> "insatiably",
[03:42:32] <chromas> many reloads later and it's still loading a table o' scores
[03:42:49] <Bytram> many reloads later and I ain't seeing any scores.
[03:42:52] <Bytram> !??!!
[03:42:56] <chromas> weird
[03:43:15] <Bytram> ok, it just now, finally, showed me some scores
[03:43:20] <Bytram> VERY weird
[03:43:23] <chromas> well
[03:43:30] <Bytram> thanks for checking it out for me!
[03:43:50] <Bytram> ~rps s
[03:43:51] <chromas> it does have the same url as the g'day data, so…
[03:43:53] <exec> rank for martyb: 14 - http://ix.io
[03:43:59] <chromas> must be a conflict with caching issues
[03:44:05] <chromas> ~g'day <list>
[03:44:08] <exec> http://ix.io
[03:44:19] <chromas> needs moar urls
[03:44:22] <Bytram> save URL? that is... confusing!
[03:44:37] <Bytram> *same
[03:45:00] <Bytram> and now I see the g'day data again
[03:45:14] <chromas> #smake crutchy
[03:45:14] * MrPlow smakes crutchy upside the head with SpallsHurgenson's missing pants
[03:45:22] <Bytram> lol
[03:45:48] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $984
[03:49:20] <Bytram> can add on-the-order-of $200 to that -- there are some subs whose payments are pending. (/me does not know how much overhead there is for processing whether it be paypal or stripe)
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[04:09:37] <Bytram> ~gnight #Soylent
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[04:10:10] <Bytram> need sleep; hope al lis well with everyone!
[04:20:00] <SirFinkus> 40 minutes until we hit 1200 though Bytram
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[07:22:27] <crutchy> Bytram, chromas: i'll make another ix.io url for rps
[07:22:39] <crutchy> gotta go get dinner first though
[07:22:44] <crutchy> drop bears are hungry
[07:24:38] * chromas imagines crutchy dropping bears off at the pool
[07:24:56] <crutchy> they do eat like bears
[07:32:21] <chromas> Indian name: Pooping Bear
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[10:05:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:05:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2420
[10:07:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake crutchy
[10:07:36] * MrPlow smakes crutchy upside the head with a 988
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[11:09:16] <Subsentient> #smake TheMightyBuzzard
[11:09:16] * MrPlow smakes TheMightyBuzzard upside the head with a small trout
[11:09:28] <Subsentient> ~gday #soylent
[11:09:30] * exec clumsily pairs a pair of used panties full of Microsoft Works with #soylent
[11:09:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Subsentient
[11:09:36] * exec romantically crossbreeds a gift of false hope with Subsentient
[11:09:52] <Subsentient> False hope, the most common kind of hope!
[11:10:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> think it's time to take testbot live
[11:10:18] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Your C bot?
[11:10:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[11:11:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> he ain't polished and still missing like 3 functions but they're boring ones and i can polish him later.
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[11:12:32] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Source?
[11:12:44] <Subsentient> And please tell me you didn't hard-code passwords into it again...
[11:13:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp but i ain't sharing the source until i get a chance to make it not ugly
[11:13:24] * Subsentient contemplates buying some deuterium oxide just so he can drink it
[11:13:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now it's working but far from pretty
[11:14:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> like using a getzillion (strcpy/strcat)s instead of a sprintf or sqlite3_mprintf
[11:15:02] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Use C99's snprintf(), not sprintf().
[11:15:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> no =P
[11:15:39] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: why not?
[11:15:42] <Subsentient> sprintf() is dangerous.
[11:16:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i'm using sprintf it's because i already calculated the exact size of the resulting string and malloc'd it
[11:16:37] <chromas> C is dangerous
[11:16:54] <Subsentient> chromas: Yeah, but C99 is less dangerous, and that's good.
[11:17:09] * chromas imagines the top gun scene
[11:17:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly though, i much prefer cheating and using sqlite3_mprintf
[11:17:50] <chromas> You know what'd be really awesome…
[11:17:54] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Most of the time, I use snprintf() for putting formatted output into an array on the stack (plain char[]), which is dangerous with sprintf() and output of possibly unknown size.
[11:17:58] <chromas> Write a bot totally in sql
[11:18:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> same as sprintf except you don't supply the var to print to, you set some var equal to the return value
[11:18:38] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Sounds like it returns a pointer to an array on the heap, which you must later free().
[11:18:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed
[11:19:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> sqlite3_free(whatzit);
[11:19:12] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: There is a performance penalty for using malloc() and free(), so it's better to use arrays on the stack when you can.
[11:19:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> very handy function though. cuts down on the number of lines you gotta write/read later
[11:20:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, this would be a valid worry were it not going in an irc bot
[11:20:23] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Never too early to learn good coding practices in C. :^)
[11:20:35] <chromas> irc is serious business
[11:21:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar but i'm specifically opting for safety and convenience over speed. it's a design decision.
[11:21:07] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: What I'm getting at is, using heap/malloc() arrays everywhere when not needed will be a good indicator of 'ugly' code.
[11:21:23] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Then use snprintf() and not sprintf().
[11:22:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, it requires more lines of code and me to write them.
[11:22:56] <Subsentient> snprintf() requires the destination capacity argument, that's it.
[11:23:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, and you need to decide what to do when A > B
[11:23:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i am firmly against truncation.
[11:23:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, more code
[11:24:16] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I agree, so am I, but better truncation than running off the edge of the allocated storage into unknown space.
[11:24:34] <chromas> that's where more code comes in
[11:24:38] <chromas> reallocate :D
[11:24:41] <Subsentient> sprintf() is commonly a vector of code-execution attacks.
[11:24:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> not the way i write
[11:25:08] <Subsentient> ^ every C programmer ever
[11:25:19] <chromas> fortunately, he's a perl programmer
[11:25:36] <cmn32480> ~gday #soylent
[11:25:38] * exec single-candidly slides a wallet of a generic insult to #soylent
[11:25:41] <cmn32480> coffee++
[11:25:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2421
[11:25:55] <Subsentient> ~gday cmn32480
[11:25:57] * exec flatulantly generates a small script that substitutes a 40 of poop cola for cmn32480
[11:26:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'not a single sprintf going anywhere that wasn't malloc'd to the exact size + 1 of the string.
[11:26:33] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: If your calculations are wrong, there's a price to pay.
[11:26:52] <Subsentient> Have a 32 bit integer? Supposed to be in the range of 0 to maybe 100?
[11:26:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, but they're not because it's not calculations by me
[11:27:00] <Subsentient> Well what if it's 2 billion?
[11:27:04] <Subsentient> Each zero is a byte in ASCII.
[11:27:59] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[11:28:14] * Subsentient puts a rat turd in TheMightyBuzzard 's open mouth
[11:29:41] * chromas steals the rat turd
[11:29:57] <Subsentient> chromas: Chewy, num num.
[11:30:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, i'd have to consciously choose to write an overflow. it just does not happen with my coding style. i'll give you a look after i get all the strcat/cpys replaced with something more legible.
[11:31:31] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Alright, I think you're wrong and I'll be able to crash your bot all the time for fun by giving it big strings, but we'll see. :^)
[11:32:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> keep in mind you're pre-limited by the length of strings the irc server will relay
[11:32:19] <Subsentient> True.
[11:32:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microbead Injection Leads to Appetite Control and Weight Loss in Human Subjects - http://sylnt.us - diet:-where-you-have-to-lose-in-order-to-win
[11:32:32] <Subsentient> So make your array bigger than 256 bytes :^)
[11:33:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i started out at like 4x what the server would relay for input variables but i don't like that as a solution so i'm going back and replacing them
[11:35:50] <cmn32480> 2 1/2 hour basball games shouldn't run 7 hours with rain delays
[11:36:25] <chromas> Tell 'em to man up
[11:36:52] <cmn32480> the first rain delay was bullsn hit
[11:37:02] <cmn32480> the second one was warranted
[11:37:03] <chromas> "I can't swing a plank tine the rain, I might hurt my widdew hannies!"
[11:37:25] <cmn32480> it was raining like a cow pissing on a flat rock the second time
[11:37:44] <chromas> Now there's a sport
[11:37:46] <cmn32480> we were in the upper deck under the roof...
[11:37:58] <chromas> Also, let's invent X-TREME WEATHER sports
[11:38:03] <chromas> The XWX
[11:38:16] <cmn32480> what's the second X for?
[11:38:25] <chromas> wx -> weather
[11:38:43] * chromas doesn't know where that abbrev comes from
[11:38:59] <cmn32480> '/me leared somethign new... do I get to go home now?
[11:39:04] <chromas> No
[11:39:20] <chromas> You have a toil underrun error
[11:39:45] <chromas> #smakeadd an upper decker
[11:39:45] <MrPlow> added: an upper decker
[11:40:54] <chromas> in the x-treme weather league, all games must be played in some sort of shitty whether, weather it be a blizzard, a hurricane or a volcano
[11:41:27] <chromas> There can be indoor games, in which case the whether would be artificially enhanced
[11:41:59] <chromas> Players can juice up on whatever they want
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[12:14:26] <cmn32480> I don't tink "Volcano" counts as weather
[12:15:19] <chromas> somebody's a stickler
[12:36:03] <cmn32480> who?
[12:37:21] <chromas> mr that-ain't-weather-ya-moron
[12:38:15] <cmn32480> whomever taht was needs a good smake
[12:38:35] <cmn32480> #smake mr-that-ain't-weather-ya-moron
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[12:58:20] <paulej72> there is a fundus among us.
[13:01:16] <cmn32480> fun is outlawed here... didn't HR tell you?
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[13:21:30] <Runaway1956> ~folding-rank
[13:21:32] <exec> 071197
[13:24:50] * cmn32480 watches the smoke trail ans Runaway1956 goes looking for personal stats
[13:25:58] <Runaway1956> Oh - my stats have suffered the past few days - you're outdistancing me right now
[13:26:34] <cmn32480> It was the circa 2005 dual Core Pentium 4 that I added that did you in, wasn't it?
[13:32:18] <Runaway1956> Oh - no, I had my own problems here - I lost some time and work units while messing around with my second GPU, then electricity went out and borked some crap on my hard drive.
[13:32:41] <cmn32480> ewww that's never good
[13:32:57] <Runaway1956> Lost a LOT of time with that mess. I finally just reinstalled from scratch, Linux found both my GPU's first time around, and things are beginnning to happen right.
[13:34:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FAA Doubles "Blanket Authorization" Altitude for Drones to 400 Feet - http://sylnt.us - Up!-Up!-And-away!
[13:34:14] <Runaway1956> Inode errors - so much fun - Fixed 'em all, the found that data was still corrupted.
[13:34:35] <Runaway1956> Hell, I can't SEE the damned drone 400 feet up, specially with the sun in my eyes
[13:35:21] <cmn32480> DOH
[13:40:18] <Runaway1956> Yeah, you're like 160,000 points ahead of me now, cmn32480
[13:42:26] <Runaway1956> Have you seen this page? http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[13:42:26] <shekel> ^✓ 03SoylentNews.org - Team Summary - EXTREME Overclocking Folding @ Home Stats
[13:42:57] <cmn32480> the donwward trend?
[13:44:14] <Runaway1956> I don't think it's updated properly, but it exists now
[13:49:15] <Runaway1956> Yeah, the giveaway on that page is, we have 35 "new" users today - it's a brand new page, and it's going to take a couple days to populate the page with meaningful stats
[13:52:10] <cmn32480> oooo all kinds of new fun useless information
[13:54:56] <Runaway1956> The Buchenwald Boys are going to smoke us in a couple weeks - I say we ambush them.
[13:55:01] <Runaway1956> http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[13:55:02] <shekel> ^ 03Buchheim_Bros_Advanced_Computing_Collaboration - Team Summary - EXTREME Overclocking Folding @ Home Stats
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[14:07:36] <cmn32480> if Belden 65 comes back, that is no longer an issue
[14:28:23] <Runaway1956> What happened to Belden, anyway? He appeared out of nowhere, and disappeared into nowhere -
[14:28:47] <cmn32480> nobody knows.
[14:29:07] <Runaway1956> So, he's our mystery benefactor?
[14:31:03] * Runaway1956 passes around chimichanga
[14:31:14] <Runaway1956> shimmy shimmy coco pop
[14:33:03] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[14:33:04] <shekel> ^ 03Little Anthony The Imperials "Shimmy Shimmy Ko Ko Bop" - YouTube
[14:40:27] <Runaway1956> 14:39:21:WU03:FS00:Upload complete
[14:40:27] <Runaway1956> 14:39:21:WU03:FS00:Server responded WORK_ACK (400)
[14:40:27] <Runaway1956> 14:39:21:WU03:FS00:Final credit estimate, 10552.00 points
[14:40:27] <Runaway1956> 14:39:21:WU03:FS00:Cleaning up
[14:49:49] <cmn32480> Noice!
[15:05:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Voice of Admiral Ackbar, Erik Bauersfeld, Dies at 93 - http://sylnt.us - Rebellion-is-saddened
[15:05:34] <Runaway1956> It would suck if your voice died I suppose
[15:09:08] <cmn32480> in principal... I would agree
[15:10:00] <Runaway1956> If you were in the principal, you would agree? Well, hell, just tell him that you think he's hot!
[15:12:53] <cmn32480> s/principal/principle/
[15:12:53] <sedctl> <cmn32480> in principle... I would agree
[15:26:44] <cmn32480> and if the principal was hot.... yeah I might be in her if the wife didn't mind
[15:32:58] <Runaway1956> You have no principles in your school
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[15:52:39] <amazoniantoad> Hey. I got some soylent and I'm having issues with it. Was wondering if anyone is around so I can discuss it
[15:54:54] <SirFinkus> this isn't for the nutrition replacement, but someone might know
[15:55:04] * SirFinkus has tried it once
[15:55:32] <amazoniantoad> SirFinkus, well my issue is afOh
[15:55:36] <amazoniantoad> wait
[15:55:44] <amazoniantoad> What is this then?
[15:56:00] <amazoniantoad> Just some news outlet?
[15:56:01] <SirFinkus> alternative to slashdot
[15:56:04] <SirFinkus> https://soylentnews.org
[15:56:04] <shekel> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[15:56:37] <SirFinkus> not just any news outlet, we're pretty much the best
[15:56:39] <amazoniantoad> is it REALLY an alternative for slashdot? Or is that wishful thinking?
[15:56:57] <SirFinkus> maybe a bit wishful thinking, but we like it
[15:57:06] <amazoniantoad> DCC SEND 00000000000000000000 0 0 0
[15:57:07] <SirFinkus> started when they were rolling out all that beta shit
[15:57:10] <amazoniantoad> Hm
[15:57:24] <amazoniantoad> What kind of beta shit?
[15:57:44] <SirFinkus> dice tried to do a site redesign
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[15:57:54] <SirFinkus> which did not go over well
[15:57:57] <amazoniantoad> I don't know who that is
[15:58:09] <SirFinkus> they bought slashdot
[15:58:33] <SirFinkus> they also started running obvious advertisements and stuff
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[15:58:53] <Runaway1956> I was just about to do a whois on the toad
[15:58:58] <Runaway1956> waited to long
[15:59:06] <SirFinkus> aww, I was hoping I was going to get him to go all fuckbeta
[15:59:21] <SirFinkus> I figure he's someone we know
[15:59:32] <Runaway1956> fuckbeta fuckbeta buckfeta buckfeta
[16:00:32] <Runaway1956> betadicefuck
[16:03:21] <Runaway1956> Anyway - down in the Amazon, Toad has some past-use-by-dated Soylent, and it's causing him some grief. Growing two extra jumping legs sounds cool, until you try to coordinate the damned things . . .
[16:36:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - MPAA Opposes Minnesota "Revenge Porn" Draft Legislation - http://sylnt.us - needs-a-wording-tweak
[17:10:17] <cmn32480> it was a good try SirFinkus
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[18:31:03] <nick> http://www.standard.co.uk
[18:31:04] <shekel> ^ 03Westway speed trap nets £100,000 a month on 11-mile stretch of road | London | News | London Evening Standard
[18:32:21] <nick> got to see those new cameras today, was a wtf moment, you can practically see the next one from each one
[18:37:57] <Nitehawk214> test
[18:37:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Samsung Announces "10nm-Class" 8 Gb DRAM Chips - http://sylnt.us - everything-is-getting-smaller
[18:38:10] <Nitehawk214> Wow ive been logged in here for days and forgot about it.
[18:38:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> Nitehawk214: ... like that's even unusual around here?
[18:39:51] <Nitehawk214> I guess IRC is more reliable than my vpn connection.
[18:40:22] <Nitehawk214> And IRC inside a browser at that.
[20:09:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Silicon and Graphene Combo Finally Achieve Lithium-Ion Battery Greatness - http://sylnt.us - available-very-soon
[20:40:03] <cmn32480> #smake the_world
[20:40:04] * MrPlow smakes the_world upside the head with a waffle iron
[22:10:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Would You Ride the 'Death Simulator'? - http://sylnt.us - it's-like-going-to-the-dark-side-and-then-coming-back
[23:04:25] <FatPhil> Is there a story in this: https://bugs.debian.org
[23:04:29] <shekel> ^ 03#819703 - xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message - Debian Bug report logs
[23:05:20] <FatPhil> it doesn't just affect debian, almost all linux distros have been affected by jwz's timebomb
[23:06:34] <FatPhil> comment 158 is where it peaks, but you'll want to get the feel for the thread and the participants before scrolling down
[23:08:40] <FatPhil> the level of blinkered fanboiism and rampant strawmanery on jwz's blog is also scary. (claims that debian hasn't patched security bugs, even when they have been backported within a day of being released upstream.
[23:09:36] <FatPhil> anyway, reading those have stolen hours of my evening - night all
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[23:41:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - WhatsApp Encrypts End-to-End in Latest Version - http://sylnt.us - what-about-beginning-to-beginning