#Soylent | Logs for 2016-03-27

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[00:00:46] <LaDarius> The fucc you starin' at, White boy?
[00:01:00] <Ethanol-fueled> You, motherfucker. *click click*
[00:01:08] <Ethanol-fueled> *BOOM*
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[00:03:24] <chromas> ~define worldstar
[00:03:24] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03Worldstar: First thing out someone's mouth when shit is about to go down. Usually shouted when a fight breaks out. Guaranteed to see at least one titty and a KO. Originates from worldstarhiphop.com (a popula...
[00:03:58] <Ethanol-fueled> worldstarhiphop.com rocks. I don't give a fuck about what you detractors have to say, it fucking rocks.
[00:04:38] <Ethanol-fueled> There are some awesome brawls and chimpouts
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[00:05:18] <chromas> "This…is a nigga moment"
[00:05:22] <Ethanol-fueled> !chimpout
[00:05:29] <Ethanol-fueled> ! chimpout
[00:05:38] <Ethanol-fueled> !CHIMPOUT
[00:05:51] <chromas> the channel doesn't have any windows to break or televisions to steal
[00:06:02] <chromas> hmm, that's also why the cops haven't shown up
[00:06:16] <LaDarius> Ey! Can a brotha getta light fo' 'dis blizzie?
[00:06:16] <Ethanol-fueled> !chimpout
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[00:07:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CGI Released of a Man Who Lived in Roman Britain - http://sylnt.us - roman-the-town-with-the-old-ones
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[00:15:51] <takyon> hbhkkbhbjk
[00:19:40] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[00:19:42] <NetCraft> ^ 03FSX Multiplayer Trolling: Clueless 747 Pilot Crashes MULTIPLE Times (Steam Edition) - YouTube
[00:21:47] <Ethanol-fueled> https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:21:47] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Leviathan (book) ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[00:27:21] <Ethanol-fueled> MEDIA is DUMB, DUMB, dumb.
[00:29:57] <SirFinkus> no shit
[00:30:11] <SirFinkus> oh, forgot to tell you, seriously considering getting a telecaster
[00:30:21] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHHAHAHAHAHA
[00:30:38] <Ethanol-fueled> have fun with your twangy hummy hipster-axe.
[00:30:53] <SirFinkus> I want twang and hum
[00:31:23] <Ethanol-fueled> dual humbuckers or die.
[00:31:59] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[00:32:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03Albert Collins And The Icebreakers 1983 In Concert - YouTube
[00:32:17] <SirFinkus> most of the time I play my guitar coil tapped anyway
[00:32:29] <Ethanol-fueled> > coil tapped
[00:32:36] <Ethanol-fueled> fuckin' hipster.
[00:33:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Who in the history of guitar playing plays coil-tapped?
[00:33:42] <SirFinkus> I do because I have one guitar with one humbucker, and wanted a single coil sound
[00:34:18] <Ethanol-fueled> You gotta be a pretty smart guy to coil-tap.
[00:34:25] <SirFinkus> lolno
[00:35:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Brian May made coil-tapping a core tenet of his axe description.
[00:35:53] <SirFinkus> I could never build my own guitar, I was always shitty at woodshop
[00:36:24] <SirFinkus> maybe if I could just cnc everything
[00:36:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Hey, you admitted to coil-tapping.
[00:37:01] <SirFinkus> the woodworking is what would fuck me
[00:38:11] <Ethanol-fueled> woodworking++
[00:38:11] <Bender> karma - woodworking: 2
[00:38:25] <SirFinkus> I think metalworking is easier, because you can undo mistakes
[00:39:09] <Ethanol-fueled> true.
[00:48:35] <takyon> I am already beginning to write my 2nd annual 4/20 longpost
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[00:49:29] <takyon> m8
[00:50:07] <takyon> seems I always catch Ethanol-fueled at the tail end of his sobriety
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[01:53:08] <Bytram> !uid
[01:53:09] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6177, owned by SpotCam
[01:53:53] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
[01:53:54] <exec> 071316
[01:55:07] <cmn32480> that UID submitted a Soylvertisement that I sent to the bin
[01:56:47] <Bytram> k; thanks for hte info
[02:21:15] <sea> Hmm.. we have a cluster at work that's sitting idle this weekend. What would happen to the FOLDING stats if I just loaded up folding@home on it for the soylent team?
[02:21:44] <cmn32480> depends on the size fo the cluster....
[02:22:28] <sea> I think it has..uhh.. 2 computers in it.
[02:23:01] <cmn32480> don't get yourself in trouble
[02:24:20] <sea> Ha! Trouble? Me? I threw out a $30,000 piece of hardware the other day because I was pissed off at it. I replaced it with a ~10 line lisp program.
[02:24:32] <sea> They let me get away with that so I'm pretty sure I'm invincible
[02:25:04] <cmn32480> I'm going to repeat what I said "Don't get yourself in trouble."
[02:25:23] <cmn32480> officially, the folding riles are that to run it on a work computer, you need permission.
[02:25:41] <cmn32480> if you do or do not obtain that permission, is up to you. :-)
[02:25:45] <Bytram> ummm, if I may ask, what kind of hardware goes for $30k and can get thrown away like that?
[02:25:52] <sea> An NVR.
[02:26:04] <cmn32480> that must have been a big NVR
[02:26:06] <Bytram> nvr?
[02:26:12] <cmn32480> video recorder
[02:26:14] <Bytram> non volatile recorder?
[02:26:22] <Bytram> not very recent computer
[02:26:31] <cmn32480> generally used for security cams
[02:26:44] <sea> A freaking ridiculously overexpensive piece of shit. All it does, seriously, is record live video to a RAID array. We already HAVE a RAID drive. The only thing that NVR ever did was piss us off with being incompatible with everything else
[02:27:02] <Bytram> interesting
[02:27:12] <Bytram> what does the 'N' in 'NVR' stand for?
[02:27:24] <cmn32480> NOtverygood
[02:27:27] <Bytram> networked?
[02:27:40] <sea> So I threw it out one day, set up a script to ffmpeg grab the videos and write hourly videos to an external drive, and when it was almost full, it writes them to the secondary drive. You swap the primary/secondary when it prompts you to.
[02:27:54] <Bytram> makes sense to me
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[02:29:35] <sea> I actually have a very nice reputation in the office for throwing out the expensive stuff.
[02:31:12] <sea> We had a huge 20+ inch screen Mac on the desk. It had linux on it, but it had some kind of odd bugs with the keyboard input, USB interface, and NIC. They were 'flaky'. I hated it. Anyway, one day I told it to reboot. It went down and didn't come back up, it got stuck on some boot script that was waiting on the hardware. I sent it to the store room.
[02:31:15] <cmn32480> god... I can't even get them to throw out the cheap stuff
[02:33:23] <sea> I'm "Director of Software Development". If I see something that bugs me for any reason, I get rid of it. I tripped over a wire last week and spilled my coffee. The whole office was offline that day, because I had them rewire the whole room to get that wire away from my feet.
[02:34:07] <cmn32480> Nicee
[02:34:22] <cmn32480> I'm Director of Professional Services
[02:34:33] <cmn32480> (for a MUCH smaller company than where you work)
[02:35:24] <SirFinkus> so it sea, we could use the points
[02:35:27] <SirFinkus> re: folding
[02:35:43] <cmn32480> basically that makes me the head nerd for all the support techs, field techs, wireless survey adn installers, and master of our internal IT
[02:36:36] <sea> lol, I have been using the little cluster for nonsense for a while now anyway.
[02:36:52] <cmn32480> I have a test server that I've been folding on
[02:37:29] <cmn32480> pair of quad core Xeon
[02:37:37] <cmn32480> the head of our IT dept (me) said it was ok
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[02:37:54] <sea> Check this out, I have this video.. https://oceanic.space
[02:38:26] <sea> This is what I put the cluster up to usually. It generates videos like this. What do I do with these? I set them as the desktop background with mplayer -rootwin. It looks really cool and scify-ish. (Try it! You can keep that video!)
[02:38:43] <SirFinkus> reminds me of electric sheep
[02:38:53] <cmn32480> nifty
[02:39:03] <sea> Yeah, a bit like that. This particular one still has a few bugs in it. I've been trying to figure something out related to it
[02:39:31] <sea> Oh, this one is the 28 second one. The latest full one is somewhere around here
[02:39:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hyperloop Could Debut in Europe Instead of California - http://sylnt.us - faster-than-a-speeding-bullet-train
[02:40:20] <sea> Right, there we go. Re-uploaded the longer version
[02:41:47] <sea> I've been trying to build a 'tree-like' version of this, with checkpointing and so on, but all connected up (so, with lots of loops), so that I can then hook it up to a microphone and have it react to the music in realtime, simply by branching along the recorded paths and re-joining later.
[02:42:34] <cmn32480> very cool
[02:43:28] <cmn32480> allright kids... my turn to head for bed
[02:43:52] <cmn32480> good tlaking wiht you sea
[02:44:05] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[02:44:06] * exec democratically embiggens an exabyte of iron filings with #soylent
[02:44:23] <sea> yup yup! you as well cmn32480
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[02:50:56] <SirFinkus> http://vncroulette.com
[02:50:57] <NetCraft> ^ 03VNC Roulette
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[05:11:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - You Can Thank Diverse Yeasts for That Coffee and Chocolate - http://sylnt.us - the-brown-liquid-of-life
[06:41:30] <Runaway1956> Muslims integrating into Western society - https://www.rt.com
[06:41:31] <NetCraft> ^ 03Vehicles set ablaze for 2nd night amid riots in Stockholm suburb (VIDEO) — RT News ( https://www.rt.com )
[06:44:45] <chromas> integrating into urban society
[06:44:47] <chromas> urban youths
[06:45:47] <chromas> Dindu Nuffin
[06:47:01] NetCraft is now known as DinduNuffin
[07:43:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - First Evidence Found That 'Cryptic Female Choice' is Adaptive - http://sylnt.us - need-a-secret-decoder-ring
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[10:15:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ex-Colin Powell Aide: "Snowden Has Done a Service" - http://sylnt.us - tooting-a-whistleblower's-horn?
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[10:26:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:26:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2393
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[11:01:17] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:01:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2394
[11:01:40] <crutchy> ~time TheMightyBuzzard
[11:01:42] <exec> Sunday, 27 March 2016 @ 6:01 am CDT - Humboldt, TN 38343, USA
[11:01:53] <crutchy> happy easter focker!
[11:02:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday crutchy
[11:02:22] * exec dexterously piles an amulet of kryptonite watermelon on crutchy
[11:02:47] * crutchy wants what that bot is smoking
[11:03:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> different holiday for me since i'm not a christian. it's new-weedeater-day instead.
[11:05:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> am celebrating by going to home depot and buying the biggest damned weedeater i can afford.
[11:05:16] <crutchy> i'm not christian either. its just an excuse for a couple of days off :p
[11:05:40] <crutchy> praise jebus!
[11:06:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> also going to use said weedeater today on account of the yard looks like it could hide a pygmy tribe after that week long vacation.
[11:08:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> mind you i'm living in TN, where there's more churches per-capita than convenience stores.
[11:11:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg, package file cache is eating up too many gigs on / again but i got some packages i want saved
[11:16:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, fix your bot.
[11:16:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sure how it's broken, mind you, it's just a safe assumption that it's doing something wonky =P
[11:20:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube kid rock foad
[11:20:31] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[11:21:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> my new favorite song for the day
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[11:30:20] <fliptop> TheMightyBuzzard: good morning, did you happen to see the pic i posted for you yesterday?
[11:31:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, was on the road all day.
[11:31:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> driving--
[11:31:22] <Bender> karma - driving: -5
[11:31:33] <fliptop> http://www.peacecomputers.com
[11:31:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> outstandin
[11:32:29] <fliptop> he was perched up there preening for about 10 minutes, then he spread his wings for like 10 minutes
[11:32:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> sweet. gonna hafta make an avatar pic out of it.
[11:33:25] <fliptop> do w/ it what you want, he was facing the breeze, might've been better had he turned around
[11:33:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> gracias. no complaints here.
[11:34:25] <fliptop> enjoy. i see a lot of buzzards but posing like that is a 1st
[11:35:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we may be showoffs but we're generally not into posing.
[11:35:13] <fliptop> heh
[11:35:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, lookit this shat http://click1.net
[11:35:40] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03Click1.net
[11:36:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas my isp. looks like an eighth grader made it back in the 90s. it's damned near geocities-ized
[11:37:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> they need to pay someone with more of a clue about looking professional than whoever built that shit. thinking that someone needs to be me.
[11:37:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause i could use some cash.
[11:39:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine time
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[11:59:23] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:59:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2395
[11:59:26] <Bytram> !uid
[11:59:26] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6178, owned by Jorrit
[12:00:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: yeah, your ISP's site does not deal too well with noscript, either; I love this bit of text: "Your Custom Text Here"
[12:01:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you ain't wrong
[12:01:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[12:01:39] * exec faithfully blows a thingy of hot wings at Bytram
[12:01:56] <Bytram> wow, a WHOLE thingy? yowza!
[12:02:02] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:02:04] * exec romantically embiggens a dogbox of jesus juice with TheMightyBuzzard
[12:02:16] <Bytram> urg. sry 'bout that
[12:02:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all good. jesus juice is wine ain't it?
[12:02:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm down with da booze.
[12:03:28] <Bytram> hrmmm, spose it is, now that ou mention it. I was thinking it meant his blood, but then again, the bread & whine are thought by some to be transubstitued into body/blood, so you got that, too.
[12:04:47] <Bytram> *transubstantiated ?? trans-somethin-somethin
[12:05:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> they really should add some peanut butter to the bread or something.
[12:05:33] <Bytram> allergies
[12:05:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't need to be mystical. just needs to taste better'n unleavened bread.
[12:05:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> jelly then
[12:06:17] <Bytram> is enough trouble for some who suffer from ciliac disease and just the small amount of wheat ina single communion wafer can be debilitatingly painful
[12:06:59] * Bytram seems to recall some (ecclesiastical) discussion with some attempts to replace wheat wafer with rice
[12:07:14] * chromas wonders what's wrong wit da bot
[12:07:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'pretty bad when yer allergic to your deity
[12:07:25] <Bytram> which bot
[12:07:37] <chromas> mine
[12:07:45] * chromas suspects TheMightyBuzzard was off by one ;)
[12:08:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i just figured there's gotta be SOMETHING wrong with it. s'usually the case.
[12:08:30] <chromas> there is, but I'm too lazy to work on it
[12:08:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, yeah that'd be my situation on testbot for the moment as well.
[12:08:52] <Bytram> chromas: I suspected as much, but there's so many here I sometimes forgets whose is what.
[12:09:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, it's a holiday. it's shiny-new-weedeater day.
[12:09:58] <chromas> you're supposed to eat chocolate and hunt for ova
[12:10:11] <Bytram> those are fun; sure beats the old mechanical hand trimmers
[12:10:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i don't worship the carpenter. i worship groundskeeper willy.
[12:11:04] <chromas> hey now, it's carpenter's son. I don't think he ever had a job
[12:11:24] <chromas> a hippy jew. kinda redundant when you think about it
[12:11:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, he was a carpenter up until his 30s when he went on his escapades.
[12:12:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> which always made me wonder, what'd he say when he hit his thumb with a hammer?
[12:12:32] <chromas> shalom
[12:12:42] <Bytram> lol
[12:13:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'not emphatic enough. take it from a guy who's done it many times.
[12:13:35] <chromas> probably the name of another deity they didn't believe in at the time
[12:13:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> you gotta break out at least four invectives for a good thumb smash.
[12:14:00] * chromas imagines an effeminate "oh, zeus!"
[12:14:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> me, i always sounded like george carlin
[12:15:06] <chromas> he was the best george
[12:15:53] <chromas> seven dirty words you must exclaim when you get hammered
[12:15:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> never liked his hippy ass but the man gave good curse word
[12:16:57] * chromas changes his opinion to fit in
[12:17:35] <Bytram> I recall the first time I heard his monologue on how many different parts of speech could be covered by the word 'fuck'... and it was on the radio!
[12:18:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, you can dig him if you like. ain't gonna lower my opinion of you on account of you didn't write your bot in perl or C.
[12:18:18] <chromas> "shit" has also diversified its part-of-speech portfolio
[12:18:39] <chromas> Yeah, I used Pascal. It was hip once
[12:18:51] <Bytram> howaboutthat -- looks like I can use named character entities in the dept line
[12:19:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good
[12:19:20] * chromas wonders if he can find an old pascal project to modernizes for cash
[12:19:54] <Bytram> what would you modernize it to?
[12:20:02] <chromas> delphi :D
[12:20:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i haven't seen pascal used seriously in twenty years
[12:20:07] <Bytram> ROFL!
[12:20:07] <chromas> or just maintain it. whatever
[12:20:37] * Bytram once worked on a database abstraction project (mid 80's) that was written in pascal.
[12:20:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> it was fairly big back in the bbs days though
[12:20:52] <Bytram> strongtyping++
[12:20:52] <Bender> karma - strongtyping: 1
[12:21:03] <chromas> well cobol's still around. surely some pascal's still out there, running aol or whatever
[12:21:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Bytram a long int
[12:21:23] * MrPlow smakes Bytram upside the head with a long int
[12:21:42] <chromas> I hope it's unsigned, for maximum impact
[12:22:20] <Bytram> well, COBOL may be verbose, but it is really good at what it was designed for... i.e. is pretty much a verbose assembler in some respects
[12:22:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> strong typing is for people who can't remember what they're doing
[12:22:32] * Bytram tested a cobol compiler and a couple of case tools for cobol
[12:23:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: weak typing is for those who never make typos
[12:23:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't be, i get by fine with it.
[12:23:44] <Bytram> yeah, but how many things do you discover at runtime that could have been found earlier?
[12:23:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> and like 90% of my coding bugs are typos.
[12:23:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> all of em.
[12:24:28] <Bytram> I prefer to find mistakes as early in the process as possible
[12:24:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> strong typing don't help you find bugs except the ones it introduces.
[12:25:21] <Bytram> disagree
[12:25:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/you/ME/
[12:26:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake allofthebots
[12:26:14] * MrPlow smakes allofthebots upside the head with seats and a steering wheel
[12:26:37] <Bytram> if I do, say, fooo++ and it has not already been defined/initialized, then a weakly-typed language (e.g. AWK) will assume it's 0, and just go on from there.
[12:27:28] <Bytram> if I intended to do: foo++ the above typo would be caught by, e.g., the compiler (or IDE) as a mistake before it ever got to the point of getting executed
[12:27:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you say foo++ on something, you should know what you're ++-ing or not do it. you must grok the code before you write the code.
[12:27:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh bleh, that's not typing. that's initialization.
[12:28:15] <chromas> One thing we can all agree on: case-sensitive languages do suck ;)
[12:28:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> and what are these IDEs you speak of?
[12:28:24] <Bytram> emacs
[12:28:27] <Bytram> =)
[12:28:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> heretic!
[12:29:00] * TheMightyBuzzard weighs Bytram against a duck
[12:29:14] <Bytram> fooo, having not been declared, would fail any type checking
[12:29:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> yet it would also be picked up by perl which does not have strong typing.
[12:30:16] <Bytram> when it is available, I do prefer to have strong typing, but I have made extensive use of languages without it; witness the many KLOCs of AWK I've written
[12:30:44] <Bytram> huh? perl does not assume a type/value on a first use of a var?
[12:31:02] <Bytram> or is that only when you do things like: use::strict or somesuch
[12:31:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope. it would in fact bork mightily on a $typovar++
[12:31:37] <Bytram> well, THAT is good to know
[12:31:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg. i always use strict and use warnings.
[12:31:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> might or might not otherwise.
[12:31:52] <Bytram> aha. and, what ahappens when you don't?
[12:32:19] <Bytram> so, there is checking going on, right?
[12:32:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> checking that something exists before you do something with it, jes.
[12:33:01] <Bytram> so, how do you initialize somehting the first time?
[12:33:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think you can even do a my $foo = undef; $foo++;
[12:33:16] <Bytram> FirstUseOfAVar = 0;
[12:33:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, thas legal
[12:33:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> $foo = somefunction(); also legal
[12:33:42] <Bytram> FirstUseOfVar++
[12:33:42] <Bender> karma - firstuseofvar: 1
[12:34:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> though you generally wanna do my $foo = somefunction(); for first use or you're going to get into scoping issues. strict takes care of that for you.
[12:35:07] <Bytram> true
[12:35:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> my/our/state/local
[12:35:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> state vars are actually pretty interesting and useful. just not in things like rehash.
[12:35:55] <Bytram> is too early for me to create an example of the problem that strict typing has helped me with, but suffice it to say that there are times I have found it useful; apparently your experience is different
[12:36:01] <Bytram> afk brb
[12:36:10] <Bytram> oh
[12:36:13] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
[12:36:15] <exec> 071307
[12:37:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~api m=user op=get_info uid=18 /karma
[12:37:07] <exec> soylentnews.org/api.pl?m=user&op=get_info&uid=18
[12:37:08] <exec> 02{"RTFM":"http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/ApiDocs"}
[12:37:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh
[12:37:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~api m=user op=get_user uid=18 /karma
[12:37:44] <exec> soylentnews.org/api.pl?m=user&op=get_user&uid=18
[12:37:44] <exec> 0249
[12:42:16] <Bytram> ~api m=user op=get_user uid=76 /karma
[12:42:18] <exec> soylentnews.org/api.pl?m=user&op=get_user&uid=76
[12:42:19] <exec> 0250
[12:42:27] <Bytram> neat
[12:42:47] <Bytram> hmmm, I wonder if someone has come up with a CLI for github?
[12:42:57] <chromas> like git?
[12:42:58] * Bytram hates mystery meat GUI navigation
[12:43:21] <Bytram> chromas: no, for the stuff that I need to do ON gihub to complete the stuff I do/did locally
[12:43:40] <chromas> looks like there's a few
[12:43:59] <chromas> hub, legit, git-hub
[12:44:26] <chromas> some libs for python and stuff too
[12:44:26] <Bytram> never fails; when I finally stop and think about something that is bugging me, I need only stop and think if maybe someone else has felt the same way and already done something about it!
[12:44:55] <chromas> just don't tell your boss
[12:45:12] * Bytram will be vewwy vewwy quiet
[12:45:36] <Bytram> chromas: where are those located?
[12:45:51] * Bytram just noticed his VM is not running.
[12:46:02] <chromas> i dunno; just did an aur search. /me looks for urls
[12:46:12] * TheMightyBuzzard sighs in perl-y relief
[12:47:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> four lines of perl to get two json values. would have taken 10x that of C and still wouldn't have been as exactly correct.
[12:47:10] <chromas> https://hub.github.com
[12:47:10] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03hub · the command-line wrapper for git
[12:47:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Once Again on TCP vs UDP - http://sylnt.us - could-this-site-run-without-both-of-them?
[12:47:39] * Bytram clicks linky
[12:47:45] <chromas> does the site use udp for anything?
[12:47:48] <chromas> besides dns or something
[12:48:01] <Bytram> hmmm, NTP?
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[12:48:33] <Bytram> sea: g'mornin
[12:48:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> SN? ya we could run the website entirely without udp
[12:49:08] <chromas> let's invent tcp-over-udp
[12:49:33] <chromas> or the other way. just think, all your udp packets would get there if you ran them all over tcp!
[12:49:42] <Bytram> much bettah
[12:49:46] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[12:50:09] <Bytram> recursion FTW
[12:51:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> bytram uses cpdp (carrier pigeon datagram protocol). it's like udp except it's the pigeons that might drop rather than the packets.
[12:51:22] <Bytram> pigeondroppings--
[12:51:22] <Bender> karma - pigeondroppings: -1
[12:51:57] <chromas> it's slower, but the packets work for you
[12:52:06] <chromas> transmit your data plus insult your enemies
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[12:52:51] <Bytram> lol
[12:54:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! four lines of perl down to two
[12:54:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine time
[12:55:13] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[12:55:14] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03Bernie Sanders' bizarre bird encounter inspires new 'Birdie Sanders' memes - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[12:58:16] <Bytram> https://pbs.twimg.com
[13:03:50] <chromas> looks like trump in the bottom photo though
[13:04:29] * chromas will vote for the Soylent Party
[13:05:14] <Bytram> yeah... me doesn't use twitter... not sure which link on cnet article brings up a photo with just Bernie+Birdie
[13:07:29] <Runaway1956> ~folding-rank
[13:07:31] <exec> 071307
[13:08:58] <Bytram> Runaway1956: yep, from the looks of things, by this time tomorrow we should be in the 12xx's !!
[13:09:06] <Bytram> http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[13:09:07] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03Team Overtakes - EXTREME Overclocking Folding @ Home Stats
[13:10:26] <Runaway1956> Lookin' good
[13:11:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent, testbot clocking in at 11MB. much, much better than MrPlow who's currently sucking up 63MB.
[13:12:02] <Runaway1956> cmn32480 will join the ranks of people with a million points in the next 24 - 48 hours
[13:12:16] <Bytram> nice!
[13:12:30] <Runaway1956> It's take me a little longer, but I'm chasing him
[13:12:47] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:13:03] <Bytram> seems like Beldin65 is taking a break. :(
[13:13:44] <Bytram> Date of last
[13:13:44] <Bytram> work unit 2016-03-23 20:04:48
[13:13:47] <Runaway1956> Kurenai Tsubasa hasn't been doing much for a couple days at elast
[13:13:49] <Runaway1956> leats
[13:13:52] <Runaway1956> least
[13:13:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> #reload
[13:13:54] <MrPlow> Reloaded
[13:14:05] <Runaway1956> 'mornin TMB
[13:14:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Runaway1956
[13:14:17] * exec ceremoniously cracks open a hugbox of young-earth creationism for Runaway1956
[13:35:02] <Runaway1956> ~submit https://www.techdirt.com
[13:35:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> almost done with ##weather for testbot but that's for another day.
[13:35:31] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[13:41:16] <Runaway1956> I've read a couple versions of this story - this title is kinda cute - http://edition.cnn.com
[13:41:17] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03Capt. Daniel Dusek sentenced for trading secrets for booze, sex - CNN.com
[13:41:47] <Runaway1956> Hookers, hotel rooms and hooch sink U.S. Navy captain
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[14:26:54] <Bytram|away> time for me to get going on my day
[14:26:59] <Bytram|away> have a great day everyone!
[14:30:55] <cmn32480> ~gday fuckers
[14:30:57] * exec allegedly launches a plate of jingly keys toward fuckers
[14:41:42] <cmn32480> Runaway1956 - you still 'round?
[14:42:08] <cmn32480> coffee++
[14:42:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2396
[14:44:07] <cmn32480> Hoppy Easter everybody
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[15:30:53] <chromas> time for an even more p2per news net
[15:55:10] <Gravis_> so... i'm here for the knife party. ;)
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[17:29:55] <crutchy> ~rps p
[17:29:56] <exec> rank for crutchy: 4 - http://ix.io
[17:51:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google: First Amendment Doesn't Protect MPAA's Secrets - http://sylnt.us - can't-have-it-both-ways
[18:31:04] <Runaway1956> Stop shouting cmn32480 - can't a guy get any sleep around here?
[18:31:09] <cmn32480> NO
[18:31:32] <cmn32480> and if he wants to sleep he ought to do it at night like the rest of us
[18:31:34] <Runaway1956> fuck me running - AMD's are super
[18:31:58] <Runaway1956> Get an Opteron - fuck all those FX's and A thingies - Opterons rule
[18:32:19] <cmn32480> server sized huh?
[18:32:28] <Runaway1956> That's how I roll
[18:32:49] <Runaway1956> you want power, you go with power - you want gaming, you go with a gaming chip
[18:33:08] <cmn32480> fair 'nuff
[18:33:36] <cmn32480> I am leaning toward a http://www.newegg.com
[18:33:37] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more - Newegg.com ( http://www.newegg.com )
[18:33:42] <Runaway1956> My chips are old - you don't want them if you're building a serious machine - Socket F is old news
[18:33:55] <cmn32480> the one I am looking at is AM3+
[18:34:11] <cmn32480> I also figu8red I could suck some knowledge out of you
[18:34:26] <cmn32480> last PC I built was 10 years ago I think
[18:34:46] <Runaway1956> Look carefully at AM3+ - the one that I played with had four memory banks, but it could only use two, or the other two
[18:35:05] <cmn32480> that's what I'm reading
[18:35:16] <cmn32480> and it don't make sense to me
[18:35:35] <Runaway1956> That kinda sucks - you can't load it with memory - 4 gig was all that would fit into the one I played with
[18:35:41] <cmn32480> 4 slots, 2 at full speed, or 4 at some percentage of full speed
[18:35:58] <Runaway1956> 8 cores are nice though
[18:36:03] <cmn32480> the board I'm lookinga t supposrts up to 32G
[18:36:13] <cmn32480> so I was thinking 2x16
[18:36:13] <Runaway1956> Right - you can't use all four at the same time, unless they've changed something
[18:36:31] <Runaway1956> 2x16 would be adequate
[18:36:44] <cmn32480> yeah
[18:36:50] <cmn32480> either that or 2x8
[18:36:53] <Runaway1956> but you'll never get the bandwidth that you would get from four populated slots
[18:37:23] <Runaway1956> TBH 2x8 would be enough for all of my needs - I have 24 gig, and I NEVER use it all
[18:37:50] <cmn32480> that's where I was headed too after thinking abotu it
[18:38:02] <cmn32480> even games don't require that kind of memory w/ a decent video card
[18:38:37] <Runaway1956> ATM I am only using 6 gig, which is really really strange, because I never had enough memory on more restricted boards
[18:39:28] <Runaway1956> Do you already have the mainboard?
[18:39:48] <cmn32480> not yet
[18:39:54] <cmn32480> this is still in the specing stage
[18:40:03] <Runaway1956> What is your primary intent for the machine?
[18:40:16] <Runaway1956> Desktop usage?
[18:40:29] <cmn32480> I'd like to get back to games
[18:40:35] <cmn32480> within reason
[18:40:44] <chromas> you need at least $4000
[18:40:51] <cmn32480> hush chromas
[18:40:55] <Runaway1956> Ahhhh - okay then - the FX is good for that, and you're looking at a damned fine example of FX chips
[18:41:23] <cmn32480> FAR cheaper than the equivalent intel
[18:41:36] <Runaway1956> Be warned - choose a good tower with LOTS OF GODDAMNED COOLING!
[18:41:48] <cmn32480> I have the tower...
[18:41:50] <Runaway1956> The wife has a nice looking machine, but she can't cool her FX off
[18:41:56] <chromas> water_cooling++
[18:41:56] <Bender> karma - water_cooling: 1
[18:41:59] <Runaway1956> And, her video card runs hot
[18:42:17] <Runaway1956> sounds like you might be prepared to run a Vishera
[18:42:18] <cmn32480> it is an old server tower that I have had for many years
[18:42:25] <Runaway1956> Cool then
[18:42:55] <cmn32480> if I hook up the rest of the fans... I think it has 8(?)x80mm fan slots in the case
[18:43:26] <cmn32480> the P4 doesn't require all that cooling
[18:43:36] <cmn32480> so most of the fans are unlpugged
[18:43:40] <Runaway1956> And, don't skimp on the power supply - my preference is Seasonic - I researched them pretty deep before I bought my first Seasonic
[18:43:57] <cmn32480> that is the point I am at now.
[18:44:00] <cmn32480> looking at the PSU
[18:44:12] * Runaway1956 has a 750 AND a 650 running his machine in tandem
[18:44:19] <cmn32480> geepers
[18:44:25] <cmn32480> ah shit.. I"m being paged
[18:44:30] <cmn32480> my turn in the shower
[18:44:40] <cmn32480> gotta head to the MIL's place shortly
[18:44:50] <cmn32480> rats.. just when the conversation was getting good
[18:44:52] <Runaway1956> go, wash your nasty ass - I thought I smelled something
[18:45:01] <cmn32480> yep...
[18:45:03] <cmn32480> yer welcome
[18:45:53] <cmn32480> I'll catch up w/ you Runaway1956 thanks for the start of the advice
[18:46:50] <Runaway1956> NP
[18:48:22] <Runaway1956> Here there be monsters - although you probably don't need it - http://www.newegg.com
[18:48:23] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more - Newegg.com ( http://www.newegg.com )
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[22:55:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Brussels Attacks Were Another Intelligence Community Failure, Not "Encryption Problem" - http://sylnt.us - The-Purloined-Letter
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[23:16:54] <Bytram> !uid
[23:16:55] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6178, owned by Jorrit
[23:16:58] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
[23:17:00] <exec> 071306
[23:17:07] <Bytram> Sooo close!
[23:17:30] <crutchy> coffee++
[23:17:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2397
[23:18:17] <Bytram> crutchy: g'day, mate!
[23:19:20] <crutchy> Bytram, ahoy!
[23:19:44] <Bytram> looks like we'll break into the 12xx's within about 6-7 hours or so
[23:19:49] <Bytram> crutchy: how's things?
[23:19:57] <crutchy> noice
[23:20:03] <Bytram> ~weather crutchy
[23:20:05] <exec> 10Traralgon VIC - currently 57°F, mostly cloudy, wind E at 4 mph, humidity 68% - Monday cloudy (53°F:64°F), Tuesday cloudy (55°F:65°F), Wednesday cloudy (48°F:66°F), Thursday mostly sunny (51°F:73°F)
[23:20:08] <crutchy> not bad. got today off work
[23:20:10] <Bytram> not bad at all
[23:20:17] <Bytram> days off is good!
[23:20:22] * Bytram is off today, too.
[23:20:49] <Bytram> had a nice dinner with family and then a 90-minute nap...
[23:21:01] <Bytram> and I think I've got a site bug fixed.
[23:21:01] <crutchy> haha nice
[23:21:10] <crutchy> Bytram++
[23:21:10] <Bender> karma - bytram: 78
[23:21:26] <Bytram> merci, mein freund!
[23:21:30] <Bytram> ;)
[23:22:01] <Bytram> ordinarily, I have my settings so the site does NOT show me any topic icons...
[23:22:11] <Bytram> but someone reported a problem that when they click on one...
[23:22:17] <Bytram> the list that is displayed is not terribly useful
[23:22:27] <Bytram> I took a quick look to reproduce
[23:22:40] <Bytram> and it seems like it was missing a sort argument in the generated URL
[23:22:49] <Bytram> on the main site,
[23:23:08] * Bytram hits Ctrl+F5 on https://soylentnews.org.
[23:23:09] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[23:24:16] <Bytram> I see at the top, topic icons for 'Digital Liberty', 'Techonomics', '/dev/random', Software', and 'Science'
[23:24:40] <Bytram> crutchy: ^^^ do you see [any of] these?
[23:24:46] <crutchy> i never use those
[23:24:50] <crutchy> yup
[23:25:11] <Bytram> the first one, for me, is the 'Digital Liberty' one.
[23:25:17] <Bytram> it's link is: https://soylentnews.org
[23:25:18] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03Search SoylentNews
[23:25:30] <crutchy> first one for me is the newspaper one
[23:25:32] <Bytram> do you see something like that?
[23:25:44] <crutchy> with title attribute 'News'
[23:25:45] <Bytram> hmmm, so is different for each user; was wondering about that.
[23:25:48] <Bytram> nod nod
[23:25:54] <Bytram> and your URL?
[23:25:54] <crutchy> i'm AC atm
[23:25:57] <Bytram> nod nod
[23:26:10] <crutchy> oh wait it changed
[23:26:19] <Bytram> come to think of it, each user can, in their preferences [de]select topics of [non]interest
[23:26:50] <crutchy> if i click on technomics icon from the home page AC it shows the news icon on the left
[23:27:01] <crutchy> on the home page though it shows digital liberty on the left
[23:27:09] <Bytram> k
[23:27:18] <Bytram> good good
[23:27:33] <Bytram> what URL does it offer? (richt click, copy URL)
[23:27:38] <Bytram> s/cht/ght/
[23:27:48] <crutchy> https://soylentnews.org
[23:27:49] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03Search SoylentNews
[23:27:52] <crutchy> is the news one
[23:27:56] <Bytram> nod nod
[23:28:22] <Bytram> ok, try clicking on it and note the order of the results
[23:28:24] <crutchy> wtf. now if i go to the home page the news icon is on the left again
[23:28:40] <crutchy> do they vary randomly or something?
[23:28:47] <crutchy> (maybe just as AC)
[23:28:49] <chromas> Total rewrite time
[23:29:02] <Bytram> that part i am not worried about; i can choose to [not] see different topics in my user preferences, so there's bound to be some variations
[23:29:35] <Bytram> and, there's more topics than space to display them all, so I'd expect there's code to rotate through them over time
[23:29:38] <crutchy> if i click on some topics the icon configuration doesn't change, but on some of them it does
[23:29:50] <crutchy> and then when you go back to the home page it seems to change sometimes
[23:29:57] <Bytram> yeah, I'm not so much concerned as to the *orientation* of the topic icons...
[23:30:14] <crutchy> yeah that makes sense i guess
[23:30:20] <Bytram> i more concerned with the "results* from clicking on one
[23:30:32] <crutchy> nod
[23:30:33] <Bytram> the order of the results appear to be random
[23:30:51] <Bytram> now, try this link, instead: https://soylentnews.org
[23:30:52] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03Search SoylentNews
[23:30:58] <crutchy> seems to be chronological for me
[23:31:10] <Bytram> bingo!
[23:31:18] <Bytram> that was the intent
[23:31:36] <Bytram> I would reckon that is a much more useful result than what one got before
[23:31:49] <crutchy> if i click on https://soylentnews.org i get chronological order it seems
[23:31:50] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03Search SoylentNews
[23:31:52] <Bytram> well, if I did things right, I've got it implemented on dev
[23:31:54] <Bytram> =)
[23:31:57] <crutchy> even without a sort parameter
[23:32:03] <Bytram> huh?
[23:32:17] <crutchy> oldest at the top
[23:32:31] <crutchy> might be more useful to have newst at the top
[23:32:55] <Bytram> yes, that is what the '&sort=2' would activate
[23:33:09] <crutchy> so default is sort=1 maybe?
[23:33:17] <crutchy> (without a parameter)
[23:33:25] <Bytram> and, the '&op=stories' says to look in stories (instead of comments, journals, etc.)
[23:33:44] <Bytram> 'Sort By Relevance'
[23:33:50] <crutchy> hmm actually default sorting is relevance yeah
[23:34:04] <crutchy> but does appear to be chronological for me
[23:34:08] <Bytram> <select id="sort" name="sort">
[23:34:08] <Bytram> <option value="1" selected>Sort By Relevancy</option>
[23:34:08] <Bytram> <option value="2">Sort By Date (Most Recent First)</option>
[23:34:08] <Bytram> <option value="3">Sort By Date (Oldest First)</option>
[23:34:08] <Bytram> </select>
[23:34:10] <crutchy> looking through dates
[23:34:33] <crutchy> maybe its cos i don't use topics, or i'm browsing as AC?
[23:34:46] <Bytram> by default, in the code I just posted in, it appears that it is sorted by relevance by default
[23:35:01] <Bytram> s/posted/pasted/
[23:35:04] <crutchy> tbh i'm not even sure what 'relevence' is
[23:35:10] * Bytram wonders where the sedbot is?
[23:35:16] <crutchy> are stories associated with each other?
[23:35:21] <crutchy> ~sed on
[23:35:23] <exec> sed enabled for 10#Soylent
[23:35:28] <Bytram> danke!
[23:35:47] <Bytram> imagine searching for: foo bar bazz
[23:36:01] <Bytram> and there are no stories with all three key words
[23:36:22] <Bytram> but a story that has all of them would
[23:36:24] <Bytram> I would think
[23:36:37] <Bytram> be more relevant ythan a story which only had one of them
[23:36:58] <Bytram> bah, I messed that up, but I think you get the idea
[23:37:17] <crutchy> makes sense yeah lol
[23:37:39] <Bytram> so, sort by relevance, would be along the lines of which stories are the best match for the search parameters
[23:38:30] <Bytram> so, I've made changes on dev to support sorting by date (newest first) for the topics at the top of the screen on the main page, and when clicking on the icon next to a story
[23:38:38] <Bytram> and I want to make sure I found all theplaces.
[23:39:00] <Bytram> want to go on an Easter Egg hunt and see if I missed any?
[23:39:02] <Bytram> ;)
[23:39:29] * crutchy is chowing down on ricebubble slice
[23:39:33] <crutchy> yummmm
[23:39:51] <crutchy> and reading a story/comments from feb '14
[23:39:56] <Bytram> lol
[23:40:05] <crutchy> https://soylentnews.org
[23:40:06] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03SN comment by [02CowboyTeal (15)] (02Score:3, Insightful)
[23:40:13] <crutchy> ah the good ol days
[23:40:15] * Bytram just found one place I missed
[23:40:34] <Bytram> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[23:40:36] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03Search Dev.SN
[23:41:17] <Bytram> on the right hand side (RHS) to the right of the place where one enters the search parameters is a red-20-sided-die
[23:41:55] <crutchy> yup
[23:41:57] <Bytram> it appears to be the icon for whatever topic one had selected to search on
[23:42:23] <crutchy> yeah i was wondering that before. that makes much clearer
[23:42:24] <Bytram> and, if you were to click on it, it *lacks* the &op=stories&sort=2 part of the URL
[23:42:39] <crutchy> oh yeah
[23:43:58] <crutchy> lol the highest uid for commenters in that story i linked was 52
[23:44:13] <crutchy> was before my time
[23:47:13] <Bytram> crutchy: interesting read; that was before the site had actually gone live!
[23:47:26] <crutchy> https://soylentnews.org
[23:47:27] <DinduNuffin> ^ 03SN article: The Internet's True Surveillance Potential 04(11 comments)
[23:47:59] <crutchy> theres a comment by uid 188 in this one, i was was around by then
[23:50:31] <Bytram> finally tracked down which template that icon was in: searchform;search;default
[23:50:34] <Bytram> now to update the template
[23:52:55] <crutchy> dammit. my coffee is cold :(
[23:53:32] <crutchy> ~last nick=xlefay
[23:53:36] <exec> 03[2014-09-02 08:16:2] #Soylent <xlefay> I need to eat some and get some sleep. I'll tty'all later ;-) Take care!
[23:53:48] <crutchy> STILL WAITING!
[23:53:48] <Bytram> :9
[23:53:50] <crutchy> :p
[23:53:51] <Bytram> :(
[23:54:10] <Bytram> miss him lots; is a good egg
[23:55:35] <Bytram> break time; biab
[23:58:03] <SirFinkus> fucking metronome
[23:58:06] <SirFinkus> always off time
[23:58:13] <SirFinkus> I think it's defective