#Soylent | Logs for 2016-03-18

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[00:03:25] <chromas> "episode of Broad City offered viewers a different Hillary in the form of the playful, good-humored feminist"
[00:03:29] <chromas> I'm confused
[00:04:27] <takyon> you'll get better
[00:21:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Proposal for a POWER8, Free Software Workstation - http://sylnt.us - end-to-end-libre-system
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[01:30:50] <Runaway1956> ~foldingrank
[01:31:15] <Runaway1956> !foldingrank
[01:31:21] <chromas> ~folding-rank
[01:31:23] <exec> 071573
[01:31:55] <Runaway1956> I'm a senile old bastard - and I've got CRS. Thanks Chromas
[01:32:30] <chromas> well I just have a lot of time on my hands :D
[01:33:47] <cmn32480> sorry to hear your CRS is getting worse
[01:34:05] <Runaway1956> I don't even feel like getting out of bed, certainly don't feel like working tonight.
[01:34:15] <Runaway1956> Just wanna pull the cover back up over my head
[01:34:26] <Runaway1956> coffee++
[01:34:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2364
[01:34:54] <chromas> ~define crs
[01:34:54] <cmn32480> long as you don't fart that is a good plan
[01:34:57] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03CRS: "Can't Remember Shit". Popularized by the movie Glory Daze.
[01:35:46] <Runaway1956> Doctor says my CRS will only get worse, until I forget who the hell I am
[01:36:10] <cmn32480> at least then you get to make new friends every day
[01:36:16] <Runaway1956> LOL
[01:36:40] <Runaway1956> Remember Reagan? Hitting on little old ladies in the nursing home?
[01:37:50] <cmn32480> Why does Amazon sell "Used - Very Good" furnace filters?
[01:38:01] <cmn32480> Somethign abotu that seems VERY wrong
[01:38:24] <chromas> just blast it with the air compressor and it's good as Used - Very Good
[01:38:47] <Runaway1956> See what else they sell used? Condoms, maybe? Tampons?
[01:39:09] <chromas> You don't reuse your condoms? Just turn it inside out and you're good to go again
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[01:39:51] <Runaway1956> Well, it is pretty expensive to buy a new Volkswagen inner tube every time you wanna "get it on".
[01:42:00] <Runaway1956> Back to FAH - I stuck a second GPU in the machine today, but nothing sees it. The two video cards are not identical, but they are very similar
[01:42:21] <Runaway1956> The machine doesn't seem to see it, Linux doesn't see it, FAH doesn't see it
[01:42:50] <cmn32480> try running Windows...
[01:42:50] <Runaway1956> Guess I gotta look in BIOS again, and maybe even flip a jumper on the mainboard
[01:42:58] * cmn32480 ducks
[01:43:05] <chromas> maybe you have to manually modprobe it
[01:44:00] <Runaway1956> I did a modprobe - nothing happened. nvidia-settings sees the GPU in the first slot, and says nothing at all about the second slot
[01:45:03] <chromas> what happens if you boot with just one card and it's in the second slot?
[01:45:13] <chromas> or boot with just that particular card?
[01:45:41] <cmn32480> chromas said modprobe
[01:45:46] * cmn32480 giggles
[01:45:56] * chromas forks his dongle
[01:46:19] <Runaway1956> I've booted with both cards by themselves, in the first slot - both work great, and both crunch numbers at the same speed
[01:46:32] <Runaway1956> haven't tried just one or the other in the second slot,
[01:46:49] <Runaway1956> That will be my next attempt, tomorrow
[01:47:06] <Runaway1956> good idea, chromas
[01:47:30] <chromas> is it an 8x slot?
[01:47:43] * chromas said slot
[01:47:45] * chromas giggles
[01:49:50] <Runaway1956> coffee++
[01:49:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2365
[01:50:10] <Runaway1956> I have one x8 slot, and one x2 slot
[01:50:38] <chromas> didn't know you could get 2-lane video cards
[01:51:02] <chromas> sounds miserable, but I guess most of the time is spend processing instead of i/o…ing
[01:51:03] <Runaway1956> It's an 8-lane card, but PCIe runs at the slot speed -
[01:51:21] <cmn32480> slot speeds vary...
[01:51:23] <Runaway1956> exactly, the processing speed doesn't change, only the communication lanes
[01:51:24] <cmn32480> some like it slow
[01:51:26] <chromas> oh
[01:51:27] <cmn32480> some like it fast
[01:51:28] <chromas> oh yeah
[01:51:49] <cmn32480> some like you to mix it up on the fly.... and end with a counter clockwise swirl
[01:52:06] <chromas> that's MY move!
[01:52:14] * Runaway1956 wishes Supermicro just integrated PCIe 3.0 into these mainboards
[01:52:19] <cmn32480> chromas++
[01:52:19] <Bender> karma - chromas: 162
[01:52:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google to Sell Robotics Group Boston Dynamics - http://sylnt.us - spin-off-rotten-culture-department
[01:53:10] <Runaway1956> to be fair though, documentation states that they do not support discrete video, servers don't need good video after all
[01:53:23] <chromas> since when does google sell things? shouldn't they just shut it down?
[01:54:10] <cmn32480> i think this is a beta program
[01:54:25] <chromas> google — where everything is beta
[01:54:35] <cmn32480> except slashdot
[01:54:53] <Runaway1956> As companies mature, they tend to diversify - I read that somewhere
[01:55:03] <Runaway1956> So, it's time for Google to try selling something off
[01:56:21] <Runaway1956> "Look, Mom, I bought this thingamabob from Billy for three dollars, messed with it for a few weeks, then I sold it to Johnyy for five dollars!"
[01:57:25] <chromas> like coinstar if you don't get the gift cards
[01:58:40] <Runaway1956> My email says the ACLU has weighed in on Apple's side in the FBI iPhone cracking case
[01:59:09] * Runaway1956 hates when the ACLU takes his side
[02:03:40] <Runaway1956> https://savecrypto.org
[02:03:40] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Stand Up For Strong Security
[02:06:25] <takyon> lol petitioning prez obama
[02:06:37] <takyon> he's a lame duck president trying to half-heartedly fight against technology
[02:06:56] <takyon> the solution is more encryption software, more fuck yous to authority, not a petition
[02:08:07] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[02:08:08] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Committee Rejects Philly Mob Boss' Home As Historical Landmark : The Two-Way : NPR
[02:08:23] <Runaway1956> Pretty much agree, takyon - Obama hasn't done anything right in 7 years, he's not going to change his record in the last few months
[02:09:17] <cmn32480> he had to have done SOMETHING right
[02:09:29] * Runaway1956 can't remember anything
[02:09:47] <cmn32480> I mean... he probably wasn't pissing in the potted plants in the White House
[02:09:55] <Runaway1956> Only good thing about Obama is, he prevented another neocon from taking the office
[02:11:20] <takyon> I might have just found the weirdest BBC headline
[02:11:22] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[02:11:24] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Sperm bunch up when swimming in gloopy fluid - BBC News
[02:12:56] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[02:12:56] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Trudeau: Canada's retirement age to shift to 65 from 67 - BBC News
[02:13:03] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[02:13:04] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Too Naked for the Nazis named oddest book - BBC News
[02:13:13] <chromas> They go through hardships and learn to work together, and come out as a team
[02:14:17] <takyon> *come in
[02:14:39] <chromas> well the come out of he hardship
[02:18:27] <Bytram|away> http://go.theregister.com
[02:18:28] <Sprinkles> ^ 03MITRE rolls out new CVE system after Reg reveal • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[02:18:31] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[02:18:43] <Runaway1956> Sperm are kinda like all those soldiers who landed at Normandy - only a few made it to shore, where most of them died anyway
[02:22:30] <Runaway1956> Heh - "injection checker" in noscript - working hard to prevent sperm reaching shore
[02:22:53] <takyon> that's inspermrational
[02:23:23] <Runaway1956> So, if some advertiser makes my computer pregnant, what can we expect to be born? Windows 10?
[02:24:53] <cmn32480> systemd
[02:25:23] <Runaway1956> systemd--
[02:25:23] <Bender> karma - systemd: -29
[02:25:40] <Runaway1956> coffee++
[02:25:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2366
[02:25:46] <Runaway1956> darwin++
[02:25:47] <Bender> karma - darwin: 1
[02:26:14] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
[02:26:16] <exec> 071566
[02:26:19] <Bytram> !uid
[02:26:19] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6163, owned by Bioedwiges
[02:28:32] <cmn32480> ~weather
[02:28:34] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 58°F / 14°C, mostly cloudy, wind W at 8 mph, humidity 33% - Thursday partly cloudy (45°F:68°F / 7°C:20°C), Friday mostly sunny (38°F:64°F / 3°C:18°C), Saturday mostly cloudy (36°F:46°F / 2°C:8°C), Sunday rain and snow (30°F:38°F / -1°C:3°C)
[02:37:30] <Runaway1956> Baltimore? Do people actually live there?
[02:37:45] <cmn32480> surprisingly, yes
[02:37:50] <cmn32480> I'm jsut not one of them
[02:38:09] <chromas> you heard 'im. he's a robot!!
[02:38:11] <cmn32480> c'mon... Baltimore is a freaking riot!
[02:38:46] * chromas remembers a golden time when riots were summer events
[02:38:51] <Runaway1956> 21:38 - time to get moving - later all
[02:39:00] <cmn32480> safe night Runaway1956
[02:39:01] <takyon> make America riot again
[02:39:06] <cmn32480> ~gnight Runaway1956
[02:39:08] * exec diabolically postulates an assfull of social justice towards Runaway1956
[02:39:18] <takyon> too relevant
[02:39:28] <chromas> ~g'day >beverage purple drank
[02:39:29] <exec> added to beverages
[02:39:32] <cmn32480> you say that as though I have any control?
[02:39:46] <cmn32480> ~uid
[02:39:48] <exec> The current maximum UID is 6163, owned by Bioedwiges
[02:39:56] <chromas> he's implying the bot is conscious
[02:40:21] <cmn32480> no... I was implying that virtually anybody can add shit to the gday data file... and I don't police it
[02:40:28] <cmn32480> it is far more fun to be surprised
[02:41:22] <chromas> ~g'day >beverage surprise buttsex
[02:41:23] <exec> added to beverages
[02:41:37] <chromas> it's the best kind
[02:42:21] <cmn32480> when you can say "whoops... shoulda aimed lower"
[02:42:45] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[02:42:47] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Brazil tumbles like 'House of Cards' in crisis - BBC News
[02:43:51] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[02:43:53] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Filibuster creates farcical scenes in Australia senate - BBC News
[02:44:52] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[02:44:53] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Japanese spas urged to relax tattoo rules for tourists - BBC News
[02:45:02] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:45:03] <Sprinkles> ^ 03How Microsoft copied malware techniques to make Get Windows 10 the world's PC pest • The Register
[02:47:07] <takyon> http://nextbigfuture.com
[02:47:08] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Next Big Future: Will the Singularity Artificial General Intelligence winners be Hedge Fund Managers, the Military and Spy Agencies ?
[02:47:40] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $984
[02:57:30] <cmn32480> And I'm spent.
[02:57:34] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[02:57:36] * exec carefully fires a dogbox of coffee at #soylent
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[03:12:00] <Bytram|away> ~gnight #soylent
[03:12:01] * exec hurriedly microagresses a blerg of social justice at #soylent
[03:24:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tutankhamun's Tomb Scanned with Radar, Possible Organic Material Found - http://sylnt.us - beyond-the-wall
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[03:33:33] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[03:33:34] <bitchcakes> ^ 03One in five PCs will be a tablet with detachable keyboard by 2020 • The Register
[03:33:48] <chromas> ew
[03:34:16] <chromas> soon only nerds and hipsters will have desktops
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[03:36:43] <takyon> yup chromas
[03:37:01] <takyon> and your traditional form factors will shoot up in price!
[03:39:26] <chromas> we've still got server hardware
[03:39:39] <chromas> faceboob and google keepin' the costs down
[03:46:29] <takyon> laptop is not a server hardware
[03:47:32] <chromas> desktops
[03:50:26] <takyon> you'll be forced to buy xeons only!!!
[04:00:08] <chromas> 4 dodecacore cpus with 512GB of ram would make a nice little desktop
[04:15:19] <Subsentient> Wow, NEXUS is actually stable!
[04:16:46] <takyon> the Google Nexus 5S?
[04:17:04] <Subsentient> NEXUS BNC
[04:17:11] <takyon> i know
[04:17:13] <Subsentient> My BNC
[04:17:20] <takyon> i will never acknowledge that name
[04:17:52] <chromas> better than push-on f connectors
[04:18:54] <Subsentient> yup, no more crashes just because I suspend my laptop
[04:19:08] <Subsentient> NEXUS now, once again, handles unclean disconnects gracefully.
[04:19:32] <chromas> does it have the option to store 0 backlog?
[04:19:51] <Subsentient> Actually, it does.
[04:19:55] <chromas> cool
[04:20:07] <chromas> the version I have I had to add that in
[04:20:13] * chromas ponders updating
[04:20:33] <Subsentient> chromas: NEXUS is now stable again, but don't worry, new features and cleaner code are on the horizon
[04:20:46] <chromas> I'm just using it as a proxy for my bot :)
[04:20:58] <chromas> poor nexus
[04:21:15] <Subsentient> chromas: NEXUS.ScrollbackEnabled=false
[04:21:21] <Subsentient> in nexus.conf or whatever
[04:21:25] <chromas> that's it
[04:21:37] <chromas> I think it was unimplemented or something at the time I grabbed it
[04:22:26] <Subsentient> hmm, at a quick search, it does seem the scrollback core doesn't actually use it.
[04:22:32] <Subsentient> chromas: I'll fix that right now.
[04:22:46] <chromas> Subsentient++
[04:22:46] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 43
[04:25:57] <Subsentient> chromas: https://github.com
[04:25:58] <bitchcakes> ^ 03Make the NEXUS.ScrollbackEnabled option actually turn off scrollback. · Subsentient/nexus@6f88964 · GitHub
[04:27:44] <Subsentient> chromas: Be warned, NEXUS is now C++ and has a lot of C++ stuff in it, more growing all the time.
[04:28:31] <Subsentient> In retrospect, that's what allowed NEXUS' codebase to be saved.
[04:28:51] <Subsentient> std::string and std::map and std::list and std::queue did a lot for NEXUS.
[04:34:20] <Subsentient> chromas: I'm actually really starting to like C++. The language has a lot of warts, but in general it allows you to ignore them and write elegant code.
[04:37:19] <chromas> looks like I put it into the server.c
[04:37:47] <chromas> so it still set up the buffer but just didn't send to the client. that's kinda dumb and a waste of memory
[04:37:50] <chromas> Chromas--
[04:37:50] <Bender> karma - chromas: 161
[04:39:13] <Subsentient> chromas++
[04:39:13] <Bender> karma - chromas: 162
[04:39:21] <Subsentient> (for recognizing the mistake)
[04:40:13] <Subsentient> chromas: try a git pull, that should be an interesting update.
[04:40:19] <Subsentient> first a git checkout -f master
[04:41:24] * chromas builds
[04:46:30] <chromas> =set .config/server.port 6870
[04:46:30] <bitchcakes> k
[04:46:32] <Subsentient> chromas: Parallel builds are now supported, so make -j4 etc works
[04:46:32] <chromas> =restart
[04:46:49] <chromas> shit I can't type
[04:47:18] <bitchcakes> k
[04:47:24] <chromas> =set .config/server.port 6970
[04:47:24] <bitchcakes> k
[04:47:26] <chromas> =restart
[04:47:40] <chromas> oh the new 'un's not here
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[04:48:12] <chromas> =nick bitchcakes
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[04:48:14] <chromas> =ident
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[04:49:18] <bitchcakes> Subsentient++
[04:49:18] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 44
[04:49:50] <chromas> does it have connection-preserving restarts too? :D
[04:50:17] <Subsentient> chromas: Not yet.
[04:50:37] <chromas> that'd be pretty sweet for all de updates
[04:51:00] <Subsentient> https://www.youtube.com
[04:51:01] <bitchcakes> ^ 03Butthole Surfers - Pepper - YouTube
[04:53:11] <Subsentient> chromas: You might try using NEXUS for yourself, not just your bot. :^)
[04:53:42] <chromas> I would but my irc client already has that feature :)
[04:53:56] <chromas> irc bouncing, not sweet restarts
[04:55:09] <Subsentient> chromas: Can you have multiple machines connected and merged at the same time?
[04:55:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hubble Finds Massive Stars in Nebula at the Edge of the Milky Way Galaxy - http://sylnt.us - bringing-the-far-away-a-little-closer
[04:55:48] <chromas> Subsentient: I can, plus I can scroll all the walk back through my entire history
[04:56:00] <chromas> it's stored in a postgres db
[04:56:01] <Subsentient> chromas: waaaaa? What bouncer?
[04:56:05] <chromas> quassel
[04:56:14] <Subsentient> ahh, the web client.
[04:56:15] <chromas> not regular irc bouncing
[04:56:26] <chromas> no it's cpp/qt
[04:56:32] <chromas> and has an android client
[04:56:51] <Subsentient> chromas: But... can you use many different IRC clients and platforms at once?
[04:56:56] <chromas> they're slowly working to rewrite the protocol 'cause I think it uses qt serializing or something
[04:57:15] <chromas> it runs on windows and linux. not sure about mac ossex
[04:57:28] <chromas> I think there's an irssi plugin
[04:57:53] <chromas> is there a control channel or something in nexus?
[04:58:00] <chromas> like where I can set options or something
[04:58:11] <chromas> or tell it to restart
[04:58:27] <Subsentient> chromas: yes
[04:58:36] <Subsentient> it's pretty bare right now but...
[04:58:38] <Subsentient> /msg nexus_control status
[04:59:12] <bitchcakes> ^✓* 03Butthole Surfers - Pepper - YouTube
[04:59:18] <chromas> =sayto nexus_control status
[04:59:29] <chromas> hm it crashed and restarting it made it emit that
[04:59:37] <chromas> monopoly--
[04:59:37] <Bender> karma - monopoly: 16
[05:00:06] <Subsentient> what crashed?
[05:00:09] <chromas> my bot
[05:00:18] <Subsentient> ahh
[05:00:58] <chromas> Err [127.0.0.1:6970 | 127.0.0.1:6970] Shutdown error [107]: Transport endpoint is not connected
[05:01:04] <Subsentient> dafuq
[05:01:23] <chromas> hm did it again just now
[05:01:50] <chromas> I don't have to restart nexus but it must not like my shit
[05:02:12] <Subsentient> chromas: huh
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[05:04:31] <Subsentient> $wz
[05:04:35] <aqu4> No games available.
[05:04:41] <Subsentient> $time MST
[05:04:41] <aqu4> Thu 2016-03-17 10:04:42 PM MST
[05:04:54] <bitchcakes> ^✓* 03Butthole Surfers - Pepper - YouTube
[05:05:05] <chromas> must be still getting scrollback
[05:05:13] <Subsentient> chromas: That's unlikely.
[05:05:38] <Subsentient> chromas: You could connect to NEXUS yourself and try it out to see.
[05:06:55] <Subsentient> chromas: Also, there is a small chance that your bot is getting confused when NEXUS uses both soylent's server ID and its own.
[05:08:55] <chromas> "No answer from server for more than 1 minute and 15 seconds", says the irc client
[05:09:01] <chromas> lag counter going up
[05:09:05] <chromas> does it reply to PINGs?
[05:11:20] <Subsentient> chromas: ... dafuq?
[05:11:23] <Subsentient> chromas: It should!
[05:11:36] <Subsentient> chromas: Check if NEXUS is running.
[05:11:49] <chromas> well I'm connected to it so it must be
[05:12:39] * bitchcakes connects up with hexchat
[05:13:23] <chromas> does the same. it seems to work fine but the lag value just goes up forever
[05:13:42] <chromas> then eventually it disconnects
[05:13:52] <Subsentient> chromas: That's not normal. NEXUS pings YOU.
[05:13:57] <Subsentient> Every 2 minutes.
[05:14:06] <Subsentient> And you have like 45 seconds to respond before it reaps you.
[05:14:45] <chromas> Subsentient: s/(e)(a)(.*)(s)/\2\3\1\4/
[05:14:49] <chromas> exec--
[05:14:49] <Bender> karma - exec: 33
[05:15:18] <Subsentient> chromas: ?
[05:15:40] <chromas> oh that was for exec to sedbot your message ;)
[05:16:00] <chromas> hexchat doesn't seem to disconnect but it's permanently suck at "+30s lag"
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[05:16:58] <chromas> only Konversation (another irc client) is diconnecting now, and it gets a bunch o' scrollback when it does
[05:17:29] * chromas wonders what'll happen if I have scrollback enabled
[05:20:05] <Subsentient> chromas: weird....
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[05:20:37] <Subsentient> chromas: do you know what mechanism your IRC client is using to determine lag time?
[05:21:06] <chromas> no but they all seem to have the same issue
[05:21:18] <chromas> or both; konversation and hexchat
[05:21:36] <Subsentient> chromas: I need to know what the clients are sending out to test the 'lag' of the server.
[05:21:49] <Subsentient> If I can find that, it's trivial to implement a response.
[05:22:01] <chromas> my bot just does an occasional PING
[05:22:15] <chromas> I added it 'cause it would disconnect even though it replies to server pongs
[05:22:35] <chromas> I'll look at th'otehrs
[05:23:00] <chromas> enabled backlog; booting it up
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[05:23:14] <chromas> aw, same probrem
[05:26:45] <chromas> running kvirc, which lets me watch the socket i/o
[05:26:58] <chromas> seeing on occasional PING go out with no reply
[05:30:53] <Subsentient> chromas: I'll fix that, gimme 3 mins
[05:31:34] <SirFinkus> evening again folks
[05:31:50] <SirFinkus> s'new in soylentville?
[05:35:28] <chromas> we were talkin' 'bout makin' an editors of soylent pinup calendar
[05:36:09] <Subsentient> chromas: It already replies to pings.
[05:36:09] <SirFinkus> I thought developing weapons of mass destruction was against some law or another
[05:36:23] <Subsentient> chromas: Can you show me the exact string your bot is sending?
[05:36:24] <SirFinkus> IT REPLIES TO PINGS OR IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN
[05:36:43] <SirFinkus> REPLY TO THE FUCKING PINGS
[05:37:43] <chromas> PING NetCraft 10.10.10.5 is what kvirc is sending
[05:37:58] <Subsentient> chromas: The exact string?
[05:38:15] <chromas> could be the lack of colon. remember, colons are optional in most irc messages if there's no space after and the ping can have anything
[05:38:16] <chromas> yeah
[05:38:21] <chromas> PING NetCraft 10.10.10.5'
[05:38:23] <chromas> gd
[05:38:25] <chromas> PING NetCraft 10.10.10.5
[05:38:48] <Subsentient> chromas: Would you like to help me improve NEXUS by doing Teamviewer?
[05:38:58] <SirFinkus> colon is required for the people I date
[05:45:53] <Subsentient> chromas: Try that.
[05:46:27] <Subsentient> chromas: Fixed it I think
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[05:48:28] <Subsentient> chromas: Seems to have worked here.
[05:49:10] <chromas> workin' here ;)
[05:49:21] <chromas> PING NetCraft 10.10.10.5
[05:49:28] <chromas> :NEXUSBNC_SERVER PONG NEXUSBNC_SERVER :NetCraft 10.10.10.5
[05:49:56] <chromas> kinda long reply but it works
[05:50:14] <Subsentient> Long as in string length or ping reply time?
[05:50:24] <chromas> string length
[05:50:29] <Subsentient> ahh
[05:53:36] <chromas> hm, konversation disconnects after the motd messages
[05:53:42] <chromas> fpos
[05:53:43] <chromas> irc--
[05:53:43] <Bender> karma - irc: -2
[05:53:45] <Subsentient> chromas: So yeah, NEXUS pings clients once every 2 minutes and pingout is 45 seconds with no response, by default.
[05:54:09] <Subsentient> chromas: Any error message in particular?
[05:54:24] <Subsentient> It's probably a problem with NEXUS.
[05:54:48] <chromas> maybe it's not disconnecting. it just stops having any output there
[05:54:54] <chromas> no channels joined or nuttin'
[05:55:14] <chromas> which client are you using?
[05:55:25] <Subsentient> XChat and andchat are my two main ones.
[05:57:01] <Subsentient> $time MST
[05:57:01] <aqu4> Thu 2016-03-17 10:57:02 PM MST
[05:57:12] <Subsentient> I use aqu4 as a NEXUS lag tester, actually. :^)
[05:57:24] <chromas> xchat doin' the same. "End of MOTD." is the last output after connecting. weird
[05:57:29] * chromas restarts it all
[05:57:54] <Subsentient> chromas: ... that is weird. of course, NEXUS does NOT join any channels automatically, that's up to the client.
[05:57:59] <Subsentient> chromas: try joining a channel manually.
[05:58:17] <chromas> oh I see. yeah, and the bot usually did that but it quit when I restarted nexus
[05:58:50] <Subsentient> And in general, the NEXUS MOTD *is* the last thing you see if you are connecting with a clean client with no channel favorites.
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[06:00:00] <chromas> k that seems to work. lag sits at 1ms
[06:00:13] <chromas> which is 1 more than quassel :D
[06:01:05] <chromas> Subsentient++
[06:01:05] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 45
[06:01:28] * chromas notices xchat's icons are slightly uglier than hexchat's which are also ugly
[06:03:23] <Subsentient> chromas: there is currently issues with "excess flood" from NEXUS allowing too many clients to send BS to the real IRC server that NEXUS should be replying to itself. It'll be fixed later on.
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[06:06:24] <chromas> still seems to get backlog
[06:06:55] <Subsentient> chromas: Hmm, weird.
[06:07:02] <Subsentient> chromas: Is scrollback disabled properly?
[06:07:27] <chromas> NEXUS.ScrollbackEnabled=false
[06:07:33] <chromas> or does it need a capital B?
[06:07:38] <chromas> case_sensitivity--
[06:07:38] <Bender> karma - case_sensitivity: -3
[06:07:40] * Subsentient checks
[06:08:02] <crutchy> pizza++
[06:08:02] <Bender> karma - pizza: 34
[06:08:07] <chromas> pizza++
[06:08:07] <Bender> karma - pizza: 35
[06:08:14] <Subsentient> chromas: No, that's correct
[06:08:29] <Subsentient> chromas: Does NEXUS give any warnings on startup?
[06:08:37] <crutchy> mebe use 0 for false and 1 for true
[06:08:46] <crutchy> or 0 for true and 1 for false >;-D
[06:08:55] <chromas> NEXUS BNC 0.1
[06:08:55] <chromas> Connecting to IRC server "irc.sylnt.us:6667"... Done.
[06:08:55] <chromas> Bringing up NEXUS server on port 6970... Done.
[06:09:00] <chromas> entire output
[06:09:12] <Subsentient> chromas: You sure you're getting backlog?
[06:09:13] <chromas> except a couple blank lines got stripped when I sent
[06:09:15] <crutchy> or 'poop' for false and 'yo mama' for true
[06:09:30] <chromas> =quit
[06:09:43] <chromas> http://google.com
[06:09:51] * chromas starts bot
[06:09:56] <NetCraft> ^ 03Google ( http://www.google.com )
[06:09:59] <crutchy> ~rps s
[06:10:01] <exec> scored a win - rank for crutchy: 3 - http://ix.io
[06:10:34] <Subsentient> >NetCraft< CTCP VERSION
[06:10:34] <Subsentient> -NetCraft- VERSION xchat 2.8.8 Linux 4.4.5-1-ARCH [x86_64/1.20GHz/SMP]
[06:10:34] <Subsentient> -NetCraft- VERSION HexChat 2.10.2 / Linux 4.4.5-1-ARCH [x86_64/1.20GHz/SMP]
[06:10:34] <Subsentient> -NetCraft- VERSION Konversation 1.6 (C) 2002-2015 by the Konversation team
[06:10:39] <Subsentient> :^D
[06:10:41] <Subsentient> 3 clients.
[06:10:42] <crutchy> ~tell cmn32480 there's another update for rps. maybe try out your ~update script on it :p
[06:10:49] <exec> message saved
[06:11:23] <crutchy> ~tell cmn32480 also there's an update to the update script, which changes the command to ~update-exec-file or something like that
[06:11:25] <exec> message saved
[06:11:42] <chromas> 4 clients
[06:11:50] <chromas> the bot counts but doesn't do ctcp
[06:12:26] <chromas> but it does still do socket errors: Err [127.0.0.1:6970 | 127.0.0.1:6970] Shutdown error [107]: Transport endpoint is not connected
[06:12:34] * crutchy wonders how to do ctcp
[06:12:58] <chromas> it's just regular messages with extra shat
[06:13:04] <chromas> like actions are ctcp
[06:13:11] * chromas ctcps #Soylent
[06:14:04] <crutchy> windows xp bitches!
[06:14:13] <Subsentient> Indeed.
[06:14:20] <Subsentient> Didn't think HexChat ran on XP.
[06:14:35] <crutchy> does up to 2.9.4
[06:15:29] <Subsentient> ahh
[06:16:49] <NetCraft> ^ 03Google ( http://www.google.com )
[06:16:58] <chromas> hehe
[06:17:14] <crutchy> hmm. so i could make a command that ctcp's someone to get their current time
[06:17:40] <crutchy> (unless they've doctored the reply)
[06:17:41] <chromas> hah, and just make that the ~time command :)
[06:17:47] <Subsentient> $time MST
[06:17:47] <aqu4> Thu 2016-03-17 11:17:48 PM MST
[06:17:55] <crutchy> lol that would be so awesome
[06:18:33] <crutchy> 'mr bot. tell me the time' ...<exec> well sir it looks like its $ctcp_result. that will be $50 thankyou
[06:26:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Moves in to Make the Web a Facebook Monopoly - http://sylnt.us - like-AOL-in-the-good-old-days
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[07:46:23] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com just watch it, it's great
[07:46:24] <NetCraft> ^ 03Huge Tire Bouncing Downhill Into Lake - YouTube
[08:27:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nike Releases a Self-Lacing "Back to the Future" Shoe, Restricts Sales to App Users - http://sylnt.us - we-don't-need-roads
[09:59:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Science Papers Reveal New Aspects of Pluto and its Moons - http://sylnt.us - it-is-damn-cold
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[10:16:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:16:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2367
[10:40:08] <crutchy> good morning!
[10:40:09] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[10:40:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son (Lyric Video) - YouTube
[10:42:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, red red wine?
[10:42:31] <crutchy> nah hot chocolate
[10:42:36] <crutchy> and a long week
[10:42:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> them two statements do not jive
[10:43:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> what you up to this eve?
[10:44:29] <crutchy> working on the ~aur script
[10:45:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar? reminds me i really should update before i head out for vacation.
[10:45:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> not this AM though. workin on testbot.
[10:49:13] <crutchy> <crutchy> ~aur sys
[10:49:15] <crutchy> <x> top result out of 1591: 9mount [1.3-3]
[10:49:17] <crutchy> <x> A set of SUID tools for mounting 9p filesystems via v9fs.
[10:49:19] <crutchy> <x> https://aur.archlinux.org
[10:49:20] <NetCraft> ^ 03AUR (en) - 9mount
[10:49:55] <crutchy> parses search results
[10:50:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~aur firefox
[10:50:03] <exec> 02error: package not found
[10:50:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ...
[10:50:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird
[10:50:20] <crutchy> exec is different bot :p
[10:50:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya
[10:50:36] <crutchy> need cmn32480 to update :p
[10:51:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> should have him just give yas a shell account
[10:52:06] * crutchy just changed the permissions for update from operator to admin
[10:53:24] <crutchy> ~tell cmn32480 just changed update script permission from operator to admin, which will mean i can update your exec from my github. let me know if you're a bit iffy about this (or just manually change the permission from + to @ in the exec line
[10:53:27] <exec> message saved
[10:55:44] * TheMightyBuzzard gets his boogie on
[10:56:02] <crutchy> would pretty much give me carte blanche to exec's machine, since it pretty much gives me direct shell access
[10:56:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://youtu.be
[10:56:08] <NetCraft> ^ 03Creedence Clearwater Revival - Lookin' Out My Back Door - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[10:56:26] <crutchy> haha shit that's what ima listening too now too :)
[10:56:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, shell access would be safer. ssh and bash have been better tested than your update mechanism.
[10:57:11] <crutchy> or permissions
[10:57:15] <crutchy> yeah
[10:58:08] <crutchy> guessin you already listened to this one: https://www.youtube.com
[10:58:09] <NetCraft> ^ 03Creedence Clearwater Revival - Proud Mary (Lyric Video) - YouTube
[10:58:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, not on a list. that was pure random hilarity
[10:58:32] <crutchy> ah
[10:59:17] <crutchy> awesome riff
[10:59:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> whatcha do is set it up like we got for the sn boxes. user accounts with as much or as little privilege as you wanna give em but with the ability to sudo -u execaccount -i
[10:59:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i lurve me some ccr
[11:00:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> lookin out my back door always makes me wanna laugh n boogie at the same time
[11:00:37] <crutchy> yeah i think when i was a kid we always used to laugh at that song
[11:01:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> then ya make execaccount with pretty much no privs except what it needs to bot and git pull crutchy master
[11:01:15] * crutchy disables update aliases. you mades me paranoid ya bastard :p
[11:01:58] <crutchy> pretty sure cmn32480 got exec all locked up in its own little dungeon anyway
[11:02:44] <crutchy> but yeah i don't wanna introduce any vulnerabilities if i can avoid it
[11:02:56] <crutchy> the bot is a mess enough as it is
[11:02:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> is prolly fine but i once inherited a set of systems that you could `deluser <uname>` to delete a user and their files or `deluser` to delete all users and their files. one of my tech support guys found that second way of running it accidentally.
[11:03:49] <crutchy> one of the web server vms at work has a sudoers file that pros would probably spit their coffee at
[11:03:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i caught it only because i was a paranoid bastard who always had a terminal window with top running in it.
[11:04:05] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[11:04:05] <NetCraft> ^ 03Creedence Clearwater Revival - Born On The Bayou (Lyric Video) - YouTube
[11:04:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> erk, coffee kicking me in the guts. must go make room for more of it.
[11:05:19] <crutchy> i made it so that i can restart apache from a web script and gave the apache user ability to delete files as su
[11:05:29] <crutchy> with no password
[11:06:20] <crutchy> only redeeming quality is that its a lan box only
[11:07:52] * crutchy is thinking there's only one thing that go with credence...
[11:09:03] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[11:09:04] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Doors - Love Her Madly - YouTube
[11:12:34] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[11:12:34] <NetCraft> ^ 03Skyhooks - 'Living In The 70's' 1974 - YouTube
[11:12:40] <crutchy> retro friday
[11:13:19] <crutchy> skyhooks was probably more LSD than marajuana
[11:18:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotta pass on the doors. never cared for them.
[11:18:21] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[11:18:21] <NetCraft> ^ 03Skyhooks Jukebox In Siberia - YouTube
[11:19:18] <crutchy> nice riff in this one too
[11:20:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> aussie tunes?
[11:21:02] <crutchy> how 'bout this one: https://www.youtube.com
[11:21:02] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Police - Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic - YouTube
[11:21:14] <crutchy> never heard anyone not like the police
[11:21:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i can dig on them
[11:21:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, now i got something on the tip of my tongue i can't put a name to
[11:23:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha, got it
[11:23:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[11:23:02] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Cars - You Might Think (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO) - YouTube
[11:24:24] <crutchy> this is what i think of whenever i hear someone mention the cars https://www.youtube.com
[11:24:24] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Cars - Drive (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO) - YouTube
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[11:26:20] <crutchy> oh shit now you got me stuck in the 80's
[11:26:53] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[11:26:54] <NetCraft> ^ 03Starship - Sara - YouTube
[11:27:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> woah, takes me straight back to the roller skating rink
[11:27:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> i rocked that ass at skating by the way. roller, ice, board, didn't matter.
[11:27:55] <crutchy> lol
[11:28:20] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[11:28:21] <NetCraft> ^ 03Starship - Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now - YouTube
[11:29:04] <crutchy> shit. i better be careful. i'm probably close to rickrolling myself
[11:30:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - VP of Engineering at United Launch Alliance Resigns over Comments About the Space Launch Industry - http://sylnt.us - lets-play-the-feud!
[11:30:45] <crutchy> lol https://www.youtube.com
[11:30:45] <NetCraft> ^ 03Roxette - The Look - YouTube
[11:30:56] <crutchy> i was in grade 3 when this song was the shit
[11:32:43] <crutchy> britney wouldn't hold a candle to these guys
[11:32:54] <crutchy> back when pop was still cool
[11:32:56] <cmn32480> would they light on fire?
[11:33:07] <cmn32480> if she held a candle to them, I mean
[11:33:26] <crutchy> do illicit drugs burn?
[11:33:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent. sqlite stuff in c is working-ish.
[11:33:42] <cmn32480> usually in a pipe of some kind, so I hear
[11:33:45] <crutchy> ~g'day cmn32480
[11:33:47] * exec problematically connects a crust of 🍆 to cmn32480
[11:33:58] <cmn32480> ~gevening crutchy
[11:34:02] <cmn32480> ~gevenin crutchy
[11:34:05] <crutchy> we been gettin our retro on :D
[11:34:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[11:34:12] <cmn32480> ~gday crutchy
[11:34:14] * exec insensitively rubs potion of buttleak on cmn32480
[11:34:15] * exec diarrhetically experiences a chest of the chron with crutchy
[11:34:18] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:34:20] * exec ironically culturally appropriates a blerg of extra lives from TheMightyBuzzard
[11:34:23] <crutchy> lol
[11:34:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> nooooo! my 1ups!
[11:34:45] <crutchy> well they're certainly more... unique
[11:34:57] <cmn32480> I was jsut thinking the same thing
[11:35:09] <cmn32480> but my thoguht went somethign like... "chromas you sick fuck"
[11:35:14] <crutchy> lmao
[11:36:11] <cmn32480> I'm actually scared to go look at the data file
[11:36:22] <crutchy> ~g'day <list>
[11:36:24] <exec> http://ix.io
[11:36:27] <crutchy> be daring :D
[11:36:35] <cmn32480> I didn't know that one existed
[11:36:57] <crutchy> shitbags there are a lot now
[11:37:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://youtu.be
[11:37:37] <NetCraft> ^ 03a-ha - Take On Me (Official Video) - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[11:37:43] <cmn32480> dear lord.....
[11:38:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, baby. MTV, year one.
[11:38:09] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, takin me back
[11:38:23] <cmn32480> MTV year 1....
[11:38:32] <cmn32480> <------- was about 3 years old
[11:38:36] <crutchy> thought this was by a different group. something A-related though
[11:38:52] <crutchy> "a-ha" doesn't ring a bell
[11:39:32] <crutchy> maybe i'm thinkin of a remix
[11:39:33] <cmn32480> no.. it's the sound yhou make when the bell rings
[11:39:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be. dunno.
[11:40:00] <crutchy> maybe something like A*
[11:40:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> up next, the very first video i remember seeing ever. https://www.youtube.com
[11:40:22] <NetCraft> ^ 03Twisted Sister - We're Not Gonna Take It (Official Video) - YouTube
[11:40:38] <cmn32480> how very retro
[11:40:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i blame them for my libertarian streak.
[11:41:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> and alex p keaton for my capitalistic streak.
[11:41:26] <cmn32480> lol
[11:41:45] <cmn32480> I blame Alex P keaton for Doc surviving the Libyans
[11:41:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that's fair
[11:41:59] * crutchy brings out the big guns... https://www.youtube.com
[11:42:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03Daft Punk - One More Time - YouTube
[11:43:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> hang tight, gotta finish up TS
[11:46:09] <crutchy> lol 'i will now perform my peoples native dance' https://www.youtube.com
[11:46:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03VAN McCOY - the hustle (1975) (HQ) - YouTube
[11:46:28] * TheMightyBuzzard thanks the powers that be for sprintf
[11:46:43] <crutchy> it wasn't RMS was it?
[11:46:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, that one's as old as me.
[11:47:00] <crutchy> its a few years older than me
[11:47:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly, who knows
[11:47:10] <crutchy> i'm an early '82 kid
[11:47:15] <cmn32480> crutchy - define having exec "locked up"\
[11:47:22] <crutchy> my bday tomorrow actually :D
[11:47:27] <cmn32480> damn young 'uns
[11:47:35] <crutchy> err
[11:47:45] <crutchy> chrooted maybe?
[11:47:47] <crutchy> vm'ed
[11:47:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://youtu.be
[11:47:54] <NetCraft> ^ 03MTV Original Broadcast 8/1/1981 - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[11:48:20] <crutchy> various other sysadmin black magical devices that make security
[11:48:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> noice, i'll be on the road to OK for vacation so happy birthday early.
[11:48:41] <cmn32480> oh... um.... yeah.... sure
[11:48:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> apparmor would work as well
[11:48:57] <crutchy> why the fuck arent those pants still cool?
[11:49:16] <crutchy> https://youtu.be
[11:49:17] <NetCraft> ^ 03VAN McCOY - the hustle (1975) (HQ) - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[11:49:33] * cmn32480 is gonna have to do a bunch of testing for the apparmour to get functional
[11:50:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ♫ i heard you on the wireless back in `52 ♫
[11:50:44] <crutchy> not sure if there are any real threats in here anyway. poutine gave up
[11:51:06] <crutchy> chromas has haxored exec the most probably :p
[11:51:27] <cmn32480> his user is running as a nobody.
[11:51:40] <crutchy> ah
[11:51:46] <cmn32480> and he lives on a box that exists on my guest network
[11:51:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> you kidding? you, me, and chromas alone are plenty of reason to make sure something is unbreakable.
[11:52:03] <crutchy> lol
[11:52:18] * cmn32480 starts building exec a fallout shelter
[11:52:28] <crutchy> exec might be infected by w32/dogfart
[11:53:41] <cmn32480> I don't think I've tried getting him running on Windows...
[11:54:30] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[11:54:31] <NetCraft> ^ 03Linda Ronstadt - Willin' (remastered w/lyrics).wmv - YouTube
[11:54:39] <crutchy> the_abyss++
[11:54:39] <Bender> karma - the_abyss: 1
[11:59:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh
[12:00:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i lurve segfaults
[12:00:27] <crutchy> segfaults and c are a match made in hell
[12:01:11] <crutchy> those pesky pointers everywhere
[12:01:51] <crutchy> everything is a pchar i guess in c, no?
[12:01:58] * crutchy hates using pchars
[12:02:07] <crutchy> or pansichars
[12:02:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> outstandin. got data being pulled from sqlite, now gotta assign it to stuff.
[12:02:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, you can have an honest to god char foo[11]
[12:03:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is an array of characters rather than a pointer to one.
[12:03:27] <crutchy> one of the best things borland did in turbo pascal was make a dedicated string type
[12:03:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's really no biggie
[12:03:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine time though
[12:06:56] * cmn32480 steals TMB's favoritie fishin' pole while he's out for a smoke
[12:07:21] <crutchy> ooh that's game
[12:08:00] <cmn32480> ~define game
[12:08:02] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03game: 1) (n) something you play, usually a competitive activity 2) (v) to play a game (see def. 1) 3) (n) an animal that is hunted 4) (n) skill or ability in any game (see def. 1) 5) (int) short for "G...
[12:08:31] <crutchy> erm
[12:08:57] <cmn32480> ~define erm
[12:08:59] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03erm: I word used commonly to fill awkward space in conversations
[12:09:10] <cmn32480> this is NOT helpful
[12:09:26] <crutchy> http://www.dictionary.com
[12:09:27] <NetCraft> ^ 03Game | Define Game at Dictionary.com
[12:09:35] <crutchy> no. 18 i guess
[12:09:50] <crutchy> lol or 21b
[12:11:07] <cmn32480> I was thinking the adjective was the most appropriate
[12:13:33] * cmn32480 finally finishes looking at the gday list
[12:13:52] <cmn32480> there are a lot of butt references in there
[12:13:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, that'll cost you $450 plus gas for a trip to Bass Pro
[12:14:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> butts are funny
[12:14:17] * cmn32480 thinks chromas has a bit of a fetish
[12:16:07] <crutchy> chromas actually looks fairly mature
[12:18:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> maturity--
[12:18:33] <Bender> karma - maturity: 0
[12:19:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm....
[12:19:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> why am i putting half a dozen if statements in when i know good n well what the structure of the returned data will be?
[12:51:10] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:51:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2368
[12:57:52] <crutchy> i'm off to count sheep
[12:57:55] <crutchy> have fun
[13:01:01] <cmn32480> ~gnight crutchy
[13:01:03] * exec romantically formulates a sac of snotcaulk for crutchy
[13:31:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Political Chaos in Brazil as Judge Suspends Cabinet Appointment of Ex-President - http://sylnt.us - crooked-politicians-are-everywhere
[13:36:47] <Runaway1956> Hey little sister who's your superman?
[13:41:47] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[13:41:47] <NetCraft> ^✓ 03My Dixie Wrecked - YouTube
[13:42:48] <Runaway1956> TheMightyBuzzard - don't worry about your attention span with this one - just clickety the linkety.
[13:44:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas some quality tuneage
[13:46:23] <Runaway1956> You betcha!
[13:46:45] <Runaway1956> And, I don't even like nascar and all that crap!
[13:49:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> #pissoff
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[13:50:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> #reload
[13:50:50] <MrPlow> Reloaded
[13:53:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> good nuff, config now comes from the db instead of being hardcoded in testbot
[13:57:19] <Runaway1956> Roflmao ! #pissoff
[13:58:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> should really be #fuckoff but i was being a tad more civilized than normal when i wrote it.
[13:59:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> time for more nicotine
[14:05:16] <Runaway1956> ~define cmn32480
[14:05:18] <exec> cmn32480: unable to find definition
[14:05:39] <Runaway1956> ~define zygote
[14:05:41] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03zygote: sperm + egg = zygote also some extreme gamers are called "zygote" they are know to 0wn their competition, in games like unreal tournament
[14:08:08] <Runaway1956> ~define crutchy
[14:08:09] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03Crutchy: Character in the movie Newsies played by Marty Belafsky. His right leg is gimp so he uses a crutch. Dances around and sings with his crutch.
[14:09:03] <Runaway1956> so, the difference between gimpy and crutchy is that crutchy dances and sings?
[14:10:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> vice versa
[14:10:39] <Runaway1956> He has a vice for versas too?
[14:12:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, he has the vice of thinking nissan versas look cool
[14:15:40] <Runaway1956> sounds more like perversity than a simple vice
[14:16:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> well he's from OZ. you gotta make allowances for people silly enough to live upside down.
[14:16:45] * Runaway1956 tries to imagine the uselessness of a self lacing shoe
[14:17:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather 74872
[14:17:05] <MrPlow> Today: Scattered thunderstorms this morning, then gusty winds with a few showers possible during the afternoon. High 54F. Winds NNE at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Tomorrow: A mainly sunny sky. High 58F. Winds N at 10 to 15 mph.
[14:17:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg. we're gonna be driving right into the rain tomorrow.
[14:18:06] * Runaway1956 figures that the bastard who is to fat to tie his shoes should just give up on shoes
[14:19:11] <Runaway1956> I kinds like driving in the rain - most of the time. Apply a coat of Rain-X today, so that you can see good tomorrow.
[14:20:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i ain't gotta drive, just stay awake and keep the roomie that way as well with entertaining banter.
[14:20:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> his company truck is DOT tagged, so i couldn't help drive even if i wanted to.
[14:21:34] <Runaway1956> A class 8 truck? Something like a big rig?
[14:22:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just a one ton dualie pickup but it needs to be able to legally haul a bigass trailer.
[14:22:50] <Runaway1956> A hotshot then - yeah, I've seen some of those that were really cool looking
[14:23:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of the time it's just the truck. trailer only goes anywhere when it's time for a new install. fixing he can do without it.
[14:23:41] <Runaway1956> God I hate my ISP -
[14:24:29] <Runaway1956> I hate Facebook, but I hate it even more when I'm trying to converse, and the crap won't load
[14:24:35] <Runaway1956> Why doesn't everyone use IRC?
[14:25:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> took him like five tries at the non-written part of the test cause they got like a 260 point inspection you gotta get right here in TN. then you gotta back your trailer around a corner.
[14:26:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> and it's a 5th wheel trailer not a ball hitch.
[14:26:23] <Runaway1956> 260 point inspection? FFS, are they making stuff up? Check tires, check brakes, check the fire extinguisher, check the lights, you're damned near ready to go. Make a mark in the log book, and take off.
[14:27:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i shit you not.
[14:27:10] <Runaway1956> Yeah, that's what I call a hotshot. I'm not sure that a ball hitch is legal on commercial vehicles.
[14:29:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty sure it is for things under a certain gvw
[14:30:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> hardware alone keeps you from pulling really big shit on a ball hitch though. they just ain't rated for no 20K pounds and such like.
[14:32:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> the one on my car's way overkill. it's good for like half a ton tongue weight and bout 10x that trailer weight but the car itself is only rated for 750lbs trailer weight.
[14:32:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://static.cargurus.com
[14:33:55] <Runaway1956> You put a trailer hitch on that? I don't even want one on my Taurus, LOL
[14:34:21] <Runaway1956> I figure the car MIGHT handle 500 pounds tongue weight in a desperate moment
[14:34:43] <Runaway1956> 250 pound would be max in normal circumstances
[14:35:27] <Runaway1956> 250 pounds multiplied by the distance from the axle to the hitch means there is very little weight left on the steering axly
[14:37:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> If he's towing with a Toyota Echo, I hope Buzz's boat is tiny.
[14:37:54] <Runaway1956> From Ebay: It's been more than a year since you last updated your personal info.
[14:38:08] * Runaway1956 wonders WTF that matters
[14:38:38] <Runaway1956> I haven't changed my name, I haven't moved, I haven't had a sex change operation - WTF do they want me to update my info?
[14:38:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> Probably the credit card number you have on file with them has expired
[14:40:07] <Runaway1956> Nahhh, still has 15 months left on it
[14:40:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it's getting less than a hundred pounds tongue weight on it and about 3-400lbs of boat/trailer.
[14:40:40] <Runaway1956> A hundred pounds tongue weight sounds pretty good
[14:41:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. i can lift the tongue up and push the boat wherever i want it parked as long as the ground's level-ish.
[14:41:13] <Runaway1956> I hate when steering axles get light - driving in rain, you hydroplane, on gravel, same effect
[14:41:57] <Runaway1956> That from a guy who has hydroplaned a fully loaded class 8 rig - it's one scary assed feeling
[14:42:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> makes it nice not having to back up my longass driveway. just pull in, unhook, and push it wherever you want it.
[14:42:42] * Runaway1956 hates backing up a ball hitch rig - things work backwards
[14:43:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, same same you just got a closer pivot point
[14:43:16] <Runaway1956> Food - do I have food? Guess I better check - - - -
[14:44:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can back a ball hitch rig anywhere it needs backed, as long as i can see the wheels in the mirrors
[14:45:04] * Runaway1956 has to stop and think with a ball hitch - but can stab a fifth wheel trailer into tiny, tiny spots
[14:45:45] <Runaway1956> Toughest spot I ever went into was General Electric in Cleveland Ohio -
[14:46:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i'm the opposite. you gotta anticipate cause the ball has some lag time from when you start turning to when it actually goes where you tell it.
[14:46:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> on a 5th wheel that is.
[14:47:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> ball hitch, any change in angle is instantly reflected.
[14:47:10] <Runaway1956> Oh yeah - food
[14:47:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i need to start packing.
[14:49:50] <Runaway1956> Looks like corned beef hash is on the menu - the wife opened the can, and took a wee bit for herself, no I eat it up, or throw it out
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[15:04:13] <cmn32480> my ball hitch works perfectly... every time. Your issues must be something that happens when you get older.
[15:05:06] <Runaway1956> ~grab cmn32480
[15:05:26] <Runaway1956> !grab cmn32480
[15:05:26] <Bender> Added quote 695
[15:05:29] <cmn32480> hmmm.. that usually activates my ball hitch
[15:05:41] <cmn32480> :-)
[15:05:47] * Runaway1956 emails the grab to mrs cmn32480
[15:06:19] <cmn32480> she doesn't grab my ball hitch nearly as often as I would like
[15:06:22] <cmn32480> nograb
[15:14:07] <Runaway1956> Please, keep your lions leashed - http://www.reuters.com
[15:14:07] <NetCraft> ^ 03Stray Lion injures man in Kenyan capital: wildlife service| Reuters ( http://www.reuters.com )
[15:18:55] <Runaway1956> Holy Fek - Erdogan pretty much declares himself to be a fascist
[15:19:01] <Runaway1956> https://www.rt.com
[15:19:03] <NetCraft> ^ 03‘Democracy, freedom and the rule of law’ have no value, Erdogan says — RT News ( https://www.rt.com )
[15:24:06] * Runaway1956 wonders if the NSA would care about solicitations to assassinate Erdogan
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[16:57:34] <Subsentient> Wow, NEXUS is still connected.... looks like I dun' good...
[16:57:39] <Subsentient> NEXUS++
[16:57:39] <Bender> karma - nexus: 2
[16:57:52] <cmn32480> first time for everything...
[16:58:20] <Subsentient> Well it used to be pretty stable, but it lost that stability when I moved from nonblocking sockets to select().
[16:58:49] <Subsentient> Now, it uses nonblocking sockets very briefly prior to calling send(), and then turns them off again once a call to send() is completed.
[16:59:07] <Subsentient> It also uses a std::queue to hold messages bound for clients until they respond to our pings.
[16:59:20] <Subsentient> If a send() fails, it doesn't pop the message from the queue.
[17:04:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Engineers Discussing Civil Disobediance If Ordered to Unlock iPhone - http://sylnt.us - little-guys-standing-tall
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[18:36:58] <chromas> from the no-thank-you,-i'm-full dept
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[19:58:20] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[19:58:22] <NetCraft> ^ 03Microsoft's equality and diversity: Skimpy schoolgirls dancing for nerds at an Xbox party • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[19:58:49] <chromas> nothin' wrong with that
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[19:59:32] <chromas> if they want equality then they should have shirtless muscular dudes dancing too
[20:00:26] <chromas> ~define brianna wu
[20:00:27] <exec> [local] brianna wu: a chick with a dick
[20:06:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nerve Stimulation May Recover Memories in Alzheimer's Patients (Mice) - http://sylnt.us - i-forgot-how-this-works
[20:18:07] <Bytram> ~weather Baikonur
[20:18:08] <exec> 10Baikonur, Kazakhstan - currently 35°F, partly cloudy, wind S at 13 mph, humidity 83% - Friday rain (33°F:43°F), Saturday rain (36°F:56°F), Sunday cloudy (44°F:62°F), Monday scattered showers (24°F:49°F)
[20:18:48] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[20:18:49] <NetCraft> ^ 03Watch live: Record-setting NASA astronaut launching to space station | Ars Technica
[20:19:01] <Bytram> A Russian rocket will launch two cosmonauts, Alexey Ovchinin and Oleg Skripochka, and NASA astronaut Jeff Williams into space today from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. Liftoff is set for 5:25pm ET, and live NASA TV coverage of the launch begins at 4:30pm
[20:21:46] * Subsentient farts
[20:24:57] * Subsentient farts
[20:24:58] * Subsentient farts
[20:24:59] * Subsentient farts
[20:24:59] * Subsentient farts
[20:25:07] <Subsentient> $burrito chromas
[20:25:07] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at chromas
[20:25:12] <Subsentient> $burrito chromas
[20:25:12] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at chromas
[20:25:19] <Subsentient> $burrito crutchy_
[20:25:19] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy_
[20:26:28] <cmn32480> ~💩
[20:26:40] <cmn32480> ~reload
[20:26:44] <cmn32480> ~rehash
[20:26:46] * Subsentient projectile vomits in cmn32480 's face
[20:26:52] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (149 aliases)
[20:26:56] * alexbst hides his cheese outside
[20:27:05] <cmn32480> ~💩
[20:27:12] <cmn32480> ~shit
[20:27:14] <exec> 05💩
[20:27:19] <cmn32480> ~weather
[20:27:22] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 65°F / 18°C, mostly cloudy, wind W at 21 mph, humidity 17% - Friday partly cloudy (42°F:62°F / 6°C:17°C), Saturday rain (36°F:47°F / 2°C:8°C), Sunday snow (34°F:38°F / 1°C:3°C), Monday partly cloudy (32°F:47°F / 0°C:8°C)
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[20:40:04] <Bytram|away> time for me to head out... I'll be away pretty much all weekend, though I might be able to drop in and edit a story or two on Sat.
[20:40:30] <Bytram|away> have a good weekend everyone!
[20:42:30] <cmn32480> ~gnight Bytram|away
[20:42:32] * exec clumsily spews a pair of used panties full of baby batter on Bytram|away
[20:42:33] <cmn32480> have fun!
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[22:44:03] <crutchy_> coffee++
[22:44:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2369
[22:44:10] <crutchy_> ~rps r
[22:44:17] <exec> you need to identify with nickserv to play
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[22:44:44] <crutchy> ~rps r
[22:44:46] <exec> scored a loss - rank for crutchy: 3 - http://ix.io
[22:45:12] <crutchy> ~rps p
[22:45:13] <exec> scored a loss - rank for crutchy: 2 - http://ix.io
[22:46:04] <crutchy> ooh we might need some moar decimal points for the handicap
[22:47:17] <takyon> still not a 100% clear on how it works
[22:47:22] <takyon> even though I read that one submission about it
[22:48:47] <crutchy> hmm. yeah i didn't really explain the general concept of asynchronous rock/paper/scissors much
[22:49:00] <crutchy> has the story already gone out? perhaps a bit more general info could be added
[22:50:04] <crutchy> whenever you play, your r, p or s's get appended to your sequence of turns (just a string stored by the script). the ranking routine then plays each turn sequentially with every other player
[22:51:04] <crutchy> the ranking routine is sorta just a big double nested for loop
[22:52:06] <crutchy> the idea behind the handicap is so that long time players aren't unfairly punished by noobs that come in and swipe a few wins in one turn
[22:53:03] <takyon> what advantage do I get from knowing the sequences?
[22:53:19] <crutchy> if you know everyone's sequences you can pwn the game
[22:54:32] <crutchy> but if for a single turn, someone picks rock and someone else picks paper, and someone else picks scissors, regardless of which one you play you're still gunna score at least one loss
[22:55:50] <crutchy> so i guess even if you could access the turns file, or somehow keep track of all the commands everyone issued (assuming there weren't any that were pm'ed to the bot directly) you likely wouldn't win every time, but you could work out how to score the most wins i guess
[22:57:04] <crutchy> most other asynchronous r/p/s games work in a similar way but they don't need a handicap because the games are for a fixed number of turns. i just thought it would be fun to get an infinite thing going :p
[22:59:34] <crutchy> normally it would be very hard to know/guess other players turns because players could be at various turn numbers and there's no indication of turns in the ranking table. you might be able to somehow work it out from the number of rounds played (round being each time you play one of your turns against one other players equivalent turn) but i dunno how to do that. it would be a challenge
[23:00:59] <crutchy> i can easily work out from the ranking table that takyon has only played one turn cos he's only played 4 rounds, which is the number of other players :p
[23:01:25] <takyon> yeah m8
[23:01:27] <takyon> was scared
[23:01:40] <takyon> i'm busy subbing another 750 articles
[23:02:03] <crutchy> so if i saw what command he issued, as a new player i could counter his turn, but i'd still likely score one or more losses against other players even though i was guarantee to score a win against him
[23:02:45] <crutchy> ~sn
[23:02:47] <exec> https://soylentnews.org
[23:03:08] * crutchy might add some of this waffle to the wiki help section for the rps command
[23:03:29] <crutchy> ooh looks like it hasn't gone out
[23:03:40] <crutchy> (still in the submission queue)
[23:04:00] <crutchy> its probably not really newsworthy anyway
[23:04:13] <crutchy> i could do it as a journal instead maybe
[23:05:39] <crutchy> fucket. i forgot my wiki password :|
[23:06:00] <takyon> we weren't going to post it unless it was on a weekend I think
[23:06:13] <takyon> plus you've already bolstered it if we add that explanation
[23:06:32] <takyon> luckily there's a weekend just around the corner
[23:08:25] * Subsentient pukes at TheMightyBuzzard
[23:08:50] * Subsentient feeds TheMightyBuzzard a chunky puke milkshake througha bendy straw
[23:09:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Dengue Vaccine is 100% Effective in Early Tests - http://sylnt.us - we've-got-the-fever
[23:10:00] <crutchy> takyon, a link to this blog might be useful http://aaronsadventures.blogspot.com.au
[23:10:01] <NetCraft> ^ 03Adventures in Computation: Asynchronous Games
[23:10:25] <takyon> i don't think TMB is around
[23:10:30] <takyon> he said something about vacation
[23:10:37] <crutchy> hmm actually that blog seems to be full of mumbo jumbo
[23:10:49] <takyon> shite
[23:11:01] <takyon> well I managed to slap about the first half of what you wrote into the submission memory
[23:11:10] <takyon> and found the character limit... roughly 1024
[23:11:20] <crutchy> anyone who says the word 'equilibria' more than once in an article has something wrong with them
[23:11:22] <crutchy> oh lol
[23:11:46] <takyon> submission memory is a space for editors to write notes on subs or stories that don't actually appear in the story
[23:12:01] <crutchy> oh wat!? " There is no email address recorded for user "Crutchy"."
[23:12:12] <crutchy> blah. now i can't login to the wiki lmao
[23:12:27] <crutchy> oh well
[23:12:33] <crutchy> coffee++
[23:12:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2370
[23:12:40] * Subsentient needs NEXUS testers
[23:12:57] <crutchy> i can have a go if you want
[23:13:02] <Subsentient> crutchy: :^D
[23:13:07] <Subsentient> crutchy: You are on XP, right?
[23:13:12] <crutchy> yup
[23:13:18] <Subsentient> crutchy: I have a working binary for XP, gimme a sec.
[23:13:42] <crutchy> actually i was kinda thinking of trying it out on linux if that's ok
[23:13:51] <crutchy> i got a vm going atm
[23:14:01] <takyon> http://www.anandtech.com
[23:14:02] <NetCraft> ^ 03Microsoft Extends Skylake Support On Windows 7 And Windows 8.1
[23:14:34] <Subsentient> crutchy: You can if you wish, but in case you're brave: crutchy: http://universe2.us
[23:14:49] <Subsentient> Has issues on Vista and up, so it's good you're on XP
[23:14:54] <Subsentient> has to do with opening ports.
[23:16:52] <Subsentient> crutchy: Test multiple concurrent connections to NEXUS, with as many different clients on as many machines as possible.
[23:17:13] <crutchy> what's the github link?
[23:17:25] <Subsentient> crutchy: https://github.com
[23:17:25] <NetCraft> ^✓ 03GitHub - Subsentient/nexus: NEXUS is a specialized IRC proxy/bouncer to merge multiple connected IRC clients into the same nickname seamlessly.
[23:17:40] <crutchy> ta
[23:18:03] <Subsentient> crutchy: the makefile now supports parallelism, so you can do make -j4 etc
[23:19:44] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[23:19:44] <NetCraft> ^✓ 03Microsoft's equality and diversity: Skimpy schoolgirls dancing for nerds at an Xbox party • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[23:20:52] <Subsentient> ugh
[23:21:36] * Subsentient has been using C++98 because that's how he learns standardized languages -- oldest backward-compatible standard
[23:22:27] <Subsentient> but daaaamn, the C++ standard containers are making everything so much easier.
[23:28:26] <JamesNZ> $beer Subsentient
[23:28:27] * aqu4 gives Subsentient a cold can of beer
[23:28:55] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: hiyah
[23:29:02] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: How's it going?
[23:29:10] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: Good! NEXUS is stable again.
[23:29:16] <Subsentient> Working fantastic.
[23:29:20] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: \o/
[23:29:41] * crutchy is building a NEXUS.conf file
[23:30:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> was a good day for coding then. i got testbot reading his config from the db instead of being hardcoded.
[23:30:07] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: Converting to C++ was a good idea it seems. Still some old code I'd like to C++-ify for the sake of simplicity.
[23:30:18] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Nurble nurble
[23:30:26] <crutchy> Subsentient, make was painless
[23:30:29] <crutchy> Subsentient++
[23:30:29] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 46
[23:30:37] <Subsentient> crutchy: you can get by without one, with --ircserver=irc.freenode.net --ircnick=Whatever
[23:30:45] <Subsentient> try ./NEXUS --help for options
[23:30:53] <Subsentient> it'll warn without a config file, but will work without one.
[23:30:56] <crutchy> yeah saw that
[23:31:08] <crutchy> wouldn't mind building one anyway
[23:31:17] <crutchy> that way i can be lazy in future :D
[23:31:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> lazy++
[23:31:24] <Bender> karma - lazy: 16
[23:31:26] <Subsentient> crutchy: Mihehe
[23:31:27] <Subsentient> hehe
[23:31:31] <Subsentient> lazy++
[23:31:31] <Bender> karma - lazy: 17
[23:31:56] <Subsentient> I got more work to do, like ensuring NEXUS reconnects on its own to an IRC server if it loses the connection.
[23:31:56] <crutchy> it'll also help test out yer config parser >;-D
[23:31:58] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: I heartily agree :)
[23:32:19] <JamesNZ> ++idiomatic_c++
[23:32:19] <NetCraft> Karma - idiomatic_c++: 1
[23:32:26] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: C++ is indeed an ugly and large language, but I think it lets you write some very pretty code.
[23:32:46] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Indeed.
[23:33:49] <Subsentient> It's making my projects a lot less boring. The parts I hate the most is creating data structures in C.
[23:33:50] <SirFinkus> who you calling an idiom
[23:34:22] <crutchy> Subsentient, delphi makes data fun as well
[23:34:31] <Subsentient> I'm starting to think all the C++ bashing is misguided.
[23:34:32] <crutchy> so i can see why c++ would be better than c
[23:34:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> so did tasha yar
[23:34:50] * crutchy can't imagine fucking around with records in old pascal
[23:34:52] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Am I correct in thinking that arrays are the data structure C89 specifies?
[23:35:14] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: Arrays are the only array-like thing C, any standard, specifies.
[23:35:23] <crutchy> though at leastr pascal supports dynamic arrays which are pretty easy to work with]\
[23:35:25] <Subsentient> the rest is exploting the array-pointer duality laws of C with malloc.
[23:35:36] <Subsentient> crutchy: std::vector
[23:35:53] <crutchy> is that a c version of a dynamic array?
[23:36:01] <crutchy> or err c++
[23:36:32] <Subsentient> C++
[23:36:32] <Bender> karma - c: 52
[23:36:36] <Subsentient> hehe
[23:37:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> she sells c shells by the c shore
[23:38:35] <Subsentient> in C, we have realloc() to rather easily grow or shrink arrays.
[23:38:36] <crutchy> wtf is interclientDelay?
[23:38:49] <crutchy> is that how often clients have sex?
[23:38:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, realloc is my boon companion
[23:39:31] <Subsentient> crutchy: it's used to prevent 10 clients from sending data at the same time and getting disconnected for excess flood.
[23:39:40] <crutchy> ah
[23:39:50] <crutchy> so a value of zero would be bad :p
[23:39:55] <Subsentient> Very bad.
[23:40:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you have ten clients
[23:40:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you only have one?
[23:40:23] * crutchy will be sure to test out this value anyway >;-D
[23:40:25] <Subsentient> if you have 1, it doesn't hurt anything
[23:40:33] <Subsentient> but NEXUS is kinda semi-pointless with just 1 client.
[23:40:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> kinda like prostitution
[23:41:02] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Ah.
[23:41:03] <crutchy> i'll try just getting a basic config working first. then i'll turn into evil crutchy
[23:41:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, break it!
[23:41:21] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Wait, what are you now?
[23:41:29] <crutchy> i'm a drop bear slave
[23:41:42] * JamesNZ gasps
[23:42:11] <Subsentient> crutchy: An important thing to test is pingout-disconnects, like suspending your laptop or leaving wifi range.
[23:42:12] * crutchy assumes scrollbackKeepTime is seconds?
[23:42:19] * Subsentient checks
[23:42:20] <crutchy> oh
[23:42:43] <crutchy> yeah i can probably try connect my andchat to it
[23:42:44] <Subsentient> crutchy: Yeah, it can be multiple things.
[23:42:55] <crutchy> does it need a suffix?
[23:42:58] <Subsentient> in config, m2 is 2 minutes
[23:43:01] <Subsentient> prefix actually
[23:43:04] <Subsentient> h2 is 2 hours
[23:43:04] <crutchy> oh
[23:43:07] <crutchy> ah
[23:43:29] <crutchy> is there an indefinite value? like 0 or empty
[23:43:37] <Subsentient> crutchy: the default is 8 hours.
[23:43:44] <Subsentient> You don't need to specify that.
[23:43:50] <Subsentient> Most options have defaults in NEXUS.
[23:44:04] <Subsentient> you just need a server address and an IRC nick.
[23:44:51] <crutchy> does this look like a functional NEXUS.conf?
[23:44:52] <crutchy> http://paste.ofcode.org
[23:44:52] <NetCraft> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[23:46:01] <Subsentient> crutchy: Yes, but options you don't need to specify, don't. It's pointless and a possible source of problems to specify what's already the default.
[23:46:39] <crutchy> mkay. i'll blow them away for my first try. but i'll add them in evil crutchy mode :p
[23:47:20] <Subsentient> Port 6667 is the default.
[23:47:41] <crutchy> i suck at documentation so i'm certainly no role model by any means, but might be handy to have a template conf in the repo
[23:47:54] <crutchy> or web page
[23:47:56] <crutchy> or whatever
[23:48:03] <Subsentient> yeh I will.
[23:48:08] <Subsentient> NEXUS is still alpha-quality software.
[23:48:27] <Subsentient> It's functional and ostensibly stable, but has many bugs and is quite far from where it needs to be.
[23:49:33] <crutchy> np
[23:50:02] <crutchy> jared@debian:~/git/Subsentient/nexus$ ./NEXUS
[23:50:02] <crutchy> NEXUS BNC 0.1
[23:50:02] <crutchy> WARNING: Failed to load config file!
[23:50:02] <crutchy> Configuration for NEXUS is invalid.
[23:50:02] <crutchy> Please check your configuration and/or command line arguments.
[23:50:29] <crutchy> for this i just made a ./NEXUS.conf in the same directory
[23:50:32] <crutchy> with
[23:50:33] <crutchy> IRC.Server=irc.sylnt.us
[23:50:33] <crutchy> IRC.Nick=dogfart
[23:50:56] <crutchy> maybe i need to specify --configfile= ?
[23:51:27] <Subsentient> crutchy: yeah, try that
[23:51:34] <Subsentient> crutchy: --configfile=nexus.conf or whatever
[23:51:47] <crutchy> jared@debian:~/git/Subsentient/nexus$ ./NEXUS --configfile=./NEXUS.conf
[23:51:47] <crutchy> NEXUS BNC 0.1
[23:51:47] <crutchy> Connecting to IRC server "irc.sylnt.us:6667"...
[23:51:51] <crutchy> woohoo!
[23:52:08] <crutchy> Connecting to IRC server "irc.sylnt.us:6667"... Done.
[23:52:09] <crutchy> Bringing up NEXUS server on port 6667... Done.
[23:54:40] -!- dogfart [dogfart!~dogfart@709-27-2-01.cust.aussiebb.net] has joined #Soylent
[23:54:50] <dogfart> hai
[23:55:03] <Subsentient> hiyah
[23:55:05] <dogfart> this is some trippy shit
[23:55:17] <Subsentient> try /msg nexus_control status
[23:55:58] <dogfart> noice
[23:56:20] <dogfart> so its sorta like a services bot in a way.... there but not really there
[23:56:27] <dogfart> a pretend nick
[23:56:35] <Subsentient> yes
[23:57:11] <dogfart> Subsentient++
[23:57:11] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 47
[23:57:12] <Subsentient> that nick only exists in privmsg context.
[23:57:19] <dogfart> ah
[23:57:35] <Subsentient> try a whois, you'll see it doesn't exist
[23:58:14] <dogfart> hmm
[23:58:29] <dogfart> it responded with a /who list
[23:58:33] <dogfart> is that right?
[23:58:44] <Subsentient> eh?
[23:58:59] <dogfart> * #Soylent ~janrinok 0::z irc.sylnt.us zz_janrinok H :0 janrinok
[23:58:59] <dogfart> * #Soylent ~cmn32480 Soylent/Staff/Editor/cmn32480 irc.sylnt.us cmn32480 G+ :0 cmn32480
[23:58:59] <dogfart> * #Soylent ~Bytram Soylent/Staff/Developer/martyb irc.sylnt.us Bytram|away H+ :0 martyb
[23:58:59] <dogfart> * #Soylent ~mcasadeva 2600:3c00::gkjo:ggkm:vshr:juyz irc.sylnt.us SoyGuest12615 H :0 Michael Casadevall
[23:58:59] <dogfart> * #Soylent piespy Soylent/BotArmy irc.sylnt.us diego H :0 PieSpy 0.4.0 http://www.jibble.org
[23:59:00] <dogfart> * #Soylent Regurgitat Soylent/BotArmy irc.sylnt.us Regurgitator H :0 Regurgitator-By-juggs
[23:59:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03PieSpy - Inferring and Visualizing Social Network on IRC
[23:59:02] <dogfart> * #Soylent Loggie Soylent/BotArmy irc.sylnt.us Loggie H :0 Loggie
[23:59:04] <dogfart> * #Soylent :End of /WHO list.
[23:59:05] <Subsentient> no, do whois
[23:59:06] <dogfart> etc
[23:59:10] <dogfart> i did
[23:59:19] <Subsentient> huh
[23:59:33] <dogfart> oh
[23:59:35] <dogfart> maybe i didn't
[23:59:36] <Subsentient> well maybe a soylent server thing
[23:59:52] <dogfart> that's confusing
[23:59:59] <dogfart> the first /whois returned the /who list