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[00:52:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> GOAT!!
[00:56:36] <Deucalion> Where!!!! No goats allowed here, they have freaky devil eyes and eat anything not made from titanium...
[00:57:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> wrong venue. it's a very old vidya thing.
[00:58:36] <Deucalion> Lost on me then.
[00:59:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> we decided we did not like the accepted pantheon so we started claiming to worship the great and powerful Goat whose purvues were being awesome and ass kicking.
[00:59:59] <Deucalion> Although I seem to recall Goat Simulator being a thing fairly recently.... or was someone trolling me
[01:00:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, it's real. i've seen a kid playing it.
[01:01:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's just about exactly what you'd expect plus some gratuitous destruction
[01:03:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Blizzard Patches Warcraft III - http://sylnt.us - modern-gaming
[01:04:33] <Deucalion> Scamper over rocks, eat some rough grass... yep, I can see how that would be entertaining :/ But who am I to talk, I'm wading through a tsunami of old games as I catch up to the current decade. Hell, I find Postal 2 funny and the Portal games a challenge. Makes for a cheap gaming experience when you take a goodly amount of years away :D
[01:06:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> Deucalion: Portal is great! I still haven't gotten around to bothering with Portal 2 yet.
[01:06:59] * AndyTheAbsurd plays vidya games very rarely
[01:07:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally, i'm still stuck on halflife 1 and team fortress classic for FPS type games. RPGs i keep more current with.
[01:08:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> like fallout 4 rocks my stripey socks
[01:09:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, mrcoolbp updated the beg-o-meter
[01:10:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of which, we're halfway through the half-year and not remotely halfway through the beg-o-meter
[01:11:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, i lied. i got attacked by alcohol and will not be coding this evening.
[01:11:39] <Deucalion> AndyTheAbsurd, I completed Portal and Portal 2 (I think)... fairly sure I have Portal 2 : Mel Stories (or somesuch in progress) - been a while since I bothered with it. More recently I've become a tad obsessive about the XCOM games.... never tried a turn based game before... dayum... how many hours wasted thinking out the next move only to get killed anyway by an enemy that does not respect cover. I am crap at all of them, but it's still fun :D
[01:11:52] * TheMightyBuzzard spock eyebrows Deucalion
[01:12:35] * Deucalion panics - does not know the lore... should I choke or feel slighted?
[01:15:18] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, if the beg-o-meter is not filled how will we feed ourselves... salaries will have to be cut by 400% again!
[01:16:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn the bad luck. and i just got a 300% raise
[01:16:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> wooo, local backups using rsync
[01:16:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> gonna take a while for the first go-round.
[01:18:24] <SirFinkus> Deucalion it could be worse, it's not disgaea
[01:18:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> rsync++
[01:18:34] <Bender> karma - rsync: 11
[01:18:49] <SirFinkus> I think I lost half a letter grade in anthro due to that stupid game
[01:19:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, rsync and hardlinks make for an excellent backup strategy.
[01:19:28] <SirFinkus> just be careful with rsync and the --delete flag
[01:19:32] <SirFinkus> I've done that before
[01:19:45] <SirFinkus> mixed up the source and destination D:
[01:19:53] * AndyTheAbsurd runs `dh -sh` on the directory being backed up.
[01:20:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think it's like 700GB. But it takes a while to finish...
[01:20:23] <SirFinkus> deleting is alarmingly fast
[01:21:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> Hah, I was so close to right! 699GB!
[01:22:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, it's -hs, you communist
[01:23:31] <takyon> h,bhhbjbhjbhj
[01:24:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, you only say that because you're going backwards in time and your grasp of the conversation is peculiar.
[01:24:10] <takyon> https://www.youtube.com
[01:24:11] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Quantum Downloading - YouTube
[01:24:18] <takyon> grasp this
[01:25:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't. my attention span doesn't cover videos longer than 2m
[01:26:22] <Deucalion> Going to respond to the backup discussion with https://www.cis.upenn.edu just be careful you get the source and destination right on the first run :D
[01:26:22] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Unison File Synchronizer
[01:27:51] <Deucalion> wtf... "Sprinkles"???? We need more unicorns up in here....
[01:28:10] <SirFinkus> I saw a bronie at school today
[01:28:15] <SirFinkus> complete with wings
[01:28:17] <SirFinkus> does that count?
[01:28:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, alcohol agrees with me. side note: that apple cider i made last spring is pretty damned good now.
[01:28:30] <Deucalion> no idea, wth is a bronie?
[01:28:42] <SirFinkus> you're better off not knowing
[01:28:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~g bronie
[01:28:53] <exec> [google] www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bronie
[01:29:03] * Deucalion returns to sheltered life
[01:29:06] <SirFinkus> err, it is brony?
[01:29:07] <SirFinkus> fuck if I know
[01:29:12] <SirFinkus> the MLP guys
[01:29:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> MLP is gay but at least they're shitting all over SJWs this season.
[01:30:00] <Deucalion> I studied NLP at uni... were the MLP guys the pre-cursor to that?
[01:30:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> hang on. i gotta find out how many people are actually using the pwnies theme
[01:31:31] <Deucalion> It can't be >0 shirley
[01:32:18] * AndyTheAbsurd tries to figure out why --exclude='/home/andrew/.cache' isn't working as expected
[01:32:50] <Deucalion> Depends what you expect
[01:33:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> I expect the .cache directory, and all files/directories in it, to be excluded from the rsync
[01:34:28] <Deucalion> does -exclude need to be --exclude ? The double - seems somewhat consistent for verbatim options on ~some~ things
[01:34:51] <Deucalion> ~shrug~
[01:35:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> everywhere it's mentioned in the man page, it's --exclude
[01:35:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, where the hell do we hide what theme a user wants?
[01:35:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> and double-dash is normal for *nix long-form options
[01:35:34] <Deucalion> best double check with info
[01:36:15] <chromas> info--
[01:36:15] <Bender> karma - info: -1
[01:36:18] <chromas> man++
[01:36:18] <Bender> karma - man: 1
[01:36:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, users_info
[01:37:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> this file's only 22K. WTF? why is taking approximately a million years to copy?
[01:38:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> six users are seriously using pwnies as their SN theme
[01:38:39] <takyon> how many are using best theme
[01:38:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas++ # for being absolutely right
[01:38:50] <Bender> karma - chromas: 161
[01:39:39] <Deucalion> rsync? Can take a millennia on the smallest file and do a multi-GB archive file in seconds when it comes to the compare stage it seems to me. I chose to stop asking questions when I realised I was actually mortal.
[01:40:58] * AndyTheAbsurd sits and watches rsync waiting for the next problem file
[01:41:35] <Deucalion> Learn to meditate
[01:41:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> eventually I'll go to bed
[01:42:46] <Deucalion> and when you wake... it'll have fallen out of your scrollback and you'll forever wonder if it copied at all.
[01:43:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> yup.
[01:43:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> but hopefully it will be quick when I run it again
[01:43:38] <Deucalion> well copying a null file over a null file... it should be :P
[01:44:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> and I'll set the --info to something where I only see files with errors during the process and get a summary when it's done
[01:44:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> instead of the "OMG I want to see *everything*" level I've got it set to now.
[01:46:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> chillax is winning. night mode second. that's ignoring the vast majority that use the default skin.
[01:48:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, stop it and restart it and > it to a log file
[01:48:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> then you can enjoy it with your morning coffee
[01:48:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> TheMightyBuzzard: nah, I'd pipe it to tee so that I didn't have another terminal open running tail. :)
[01:49:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> wuss
[01:49:35] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:49:36] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Plucky cable billionaires defeat menace of small-town broadband • The Register
[01:51:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> weren't the FCC saying feel free to ignore those laws?
[01:51:37] <Subsentient> DERP
[01:52:40] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: unfortunately, you only need one idiot to ruin everything.
[01:53:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, and we have thousands just in DC
[01:54:12] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: we have millions acorss the country
[01:54:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, utilities are one area where government absolutely should be able to compete with private enterprise. with the restriction that they run entirely off their own profits after 3-5 years.
[01:54:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> where there is not competition, create it. but create the real thing.
[01:55:26] <Gravis> why only utilities and why utilities at all?
[01:55:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> not only utilities. infrastructure creation would be another good area.
[01:55:54] <Gravis> it's a hypocritical position you have taken.
[01:56:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> anywhere that lacks competition, feel free to create it. but do it properly so it's real competition not a government with endless resources choking out private business.
[01:56:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, not remotely. competition is the lifeblood of capitalism.
[01:57:10] <Gravis> wrong, greed is the lifeblood of capitalism.
[01:57:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, greed is the lifeblood of socialism.
[01:57:32] <Gravis> competition just makes sure there are no absolute winners
[01:57:49] <Gravis> they figured this out and therefore do not compete
[01:57:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean shit, its primary premise is "you have more shit than me, give it here"
[01:58:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> capitalism on the other hand: i want more shit therefore i shall figure out how to earn more shit.
[01:59:37] * Deucalion eats some popcorn then evaporates... thanks for the popcorn
[01:59:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> competition makes sure nobody ever gets to rest on their laurels or force trade at locked in prices. you know, like how socialism locks in prices.
[02:00:07] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so, "share with everyone" is greed and "i want more!" is...?
[02:00:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> share is "i have plenty, have some". "you have too much, i shall take some" is theft
[02:01:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> and yes, theft is absolutely motivated by greed.
[02:01:30] <Gravis> so taxes are theft?
[02:01:35] * chromas sneaks into tmb's house and steals his fooshin' toys
[02:01:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes
[02:01:40] <Gravis> lol
[02:01:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> involuntary ones anyway
[02:01:49] <Gravis> mhmm
[02:01:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, good way to get shooted
[02:02:04] <chromas> 𝅘𝅥𝅮 You have so many and I have none 𝅘𝅥𝅮
[02:02:13] <takyon> fuck soylent is slow just now
[02:02:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i'm a capitalist. go buy your own.
[02:02:26] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org here's some me vs. gewg_ entertainment
[02:02:27] <Sprinkles> ^ 03SN comment by [02takyon (881)] (02Score:4, Informative)
[02:02:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> daily reports are running and hogging the shit outa the cpu
[02:03:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, and they been running for a very long time
[02:03:29] <Gravis> gewg is retarded. he refuses to use a login because... reasons?
[02:04:10] * TheMightyBuzzard boggles
[02:04:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> unfettered capitalism and total socialism are both retarded
[02:04:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, i figured you and he would be bestest buds on account of both being socialist idjits
[02:04:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, truth
[02:05:12] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: agreed. that's why we need post-scarcity!
[02:05:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> you need a referee. not anarchy and not totalitarianism
[02:05:37] <Gravis> you know... so we can abandon the idiots that are ruining it for everyone
[02:06:06] <Gravis> then 3d print some rocks and the stone them to death
[02:06:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, get to work on that then. fix up the AI that can solve absolutely any plumbing problem no matter how edge-case-y
[02:06:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> I support many policies that could be considered "socialist" but I understand that humans need to be able to strive to put themselves in a better position, so a simple "level playing field" - especially economically - is unworkable in practice and will only lead to black markets.
[02:07:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> level is vile and unethical. clear is fine.
[02:07:18] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: why bother when you can just make a house that can be taken apart and fixed off-site?
[02:07:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think the best I've heard it stated is "equality of opportunity, not equality of outcomes".
[02:08:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, because that's insanity for an $0.89 washer or a solder joint in an odd place.
[02:08:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, absolutely
[02:08:30] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: how is it insane if it doesn't cost anything?
[02:09:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, taking apart your house that is currently full of days worth of packing shit up to fix a plumbing problem? that's the dumbest shit i've ever heard.
[02:09:47] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: not if the house was designed to be modular
[02:10:08] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: your problem is that you think of problems instead of solutions
[02:10:20] * TheMightyBuzzard shakes his head at Gravis's spherical cow approach.
[02:10:34] <takyon> I'll probably do a Sony VR sub later tonight
[02:10:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, that is because i am a better coder than you.
[02:10:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you think of the problems beforehand, you don't get buttfucked by them later.
[02:10:53] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: no, it's because you lack creativity and vision.
[02:11:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> it takes a hell of a lot more creativity and vision to create something without bugs than with.
[02:11:37] <takyon> living in a home is a privilege. You should check it and live in a collapsible tent instead, like MDC
[02:12:11] <Bytram|away> "Brilliance comes and goes; ignorance accumulates."
[02:12:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, the pitching a tent jokes would never end. is there some kind of -ism we could claim to stop them?
[02:12:18] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[02:12:19] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: and yet you can't envision a solution for plumbing.
[02:12:20] <Bytram> !uid
[02:12:21] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6162, owned by raumschiff
[02:12:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, i have a solution. plumbers.
[02:12:43] <takyon> TheMightyBuzzard: sexcapism
[02:12:47] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: like i said, you lack creativity.
[02:12:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> all you have to do is pay them and they will fix anything you like.
[02:13:28] <takyon> robot plumbers: the true test of AI
[02:13:32] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: all you have to do is have money
[02:13:53] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: all you have to do is compete in a mindless game of "let's take money from people"
[02:13:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, why, yes. as is assumed of anyone who wants to trade value for value.
[02:14:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> getting shit without giving equivalent exchange for it is unethical.
[02:14:24] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: machines will do what you say.
[02:14:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> machines are not, and never will be, people
[02:14:45] <chromas> until they demand money
[02:14:55] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: are you saying machines are unethical?
[02:15:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> they might be godless killing machines in the future but they will never fix your plumbing.
[02:15:24] * chromas calls RoboRooter
[02:15:27] <takyon> that gives me an idea for a screenplay about plumber assassins
[02:15:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, it'd be a good cover. especially if you could pull off the proper amount of butt crack.
[02:16:00] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: QED, you lack creativity
[02:16:01] * TheMightyBuzzard says the ex plumber
[02:16:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, you lack reality
[02:16:47] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: no, i lack your shortsightedness
[02:16:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i do not need to create an alternative to plumbers when i find them perfectly acceptable. just like i do not need to rewrite /usr/bin/cat because i dislike the ethics of free software.
[02:17:39] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: why is this about _you_?
[02:17:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> because you made it so with the insults?
[02:18:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> "YOU lack creativity"
[02:18:20] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: those were simple observations
[02:18:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> count up the occurrences of the word you in your comments tonight. it's in almost every line.
[02:19:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> you made it about me by shit talking. because that's what you're doing rather than arguing HOW your hooka dream is going to come about.
[02:19:36] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: yes, which is to say, just because you think something is impossible doesn't make it true
[02:20:19] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: it's not a dream, it's an inevitability
[02:20:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean it's not like you're even other than blatantly transparent. i just like educating the other folks reading.
[02:20:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, because you say so?
[02:20:54] <Gravis> no because of greed
[02:21:09] <Gravis> lay off more and more workers and replace the with robots
[02:21:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> that makes roughly as much sense as saying "because of Jell-O pudding cups"
[02:22:01] <Gravis> you don't have to pay them. eventually you will have a few types of robot that can sustain the basic needs of a society.
[02:22:14] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[02:22:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure you will
[02:22:31] <Gravis> i didn't say i would, i said it was inevitable
[02:22:58] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you can't see it because you lack vision and are focused only on the what's right in front of you.
[02:23:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're boring me now. going this far out on a limb and not even trying to apply logic to your train of thought.
[02:23:55] <Gravis> i've already laid it out. you are just refusing to refute it because you cannot.
[02:24:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> you said "shit will spontaneously happen because i say it will"
[02:24:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> you did not in fact say how or why
[02:24:46] <Gravis> it won't happen spontaneously, it's a process that is already in progress
[02:25:13] <Gravis> factory workers are being laid off and being replaced by machines
[02:25:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> tell ya what. ima go smoke a cigarette. if you can come up with a good argument by the time we get back i'll be happy to help you refine it by showing you the glaring holes.
[02:25:38] <chromas> for example, it turns out that both Gravis and TheMightyBuzzard are actually robots takin' the jerbs o' internet trolls
[02:26:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i'm a cyborg. only my chainsaw arm is mechanical.
[02:26:31] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you can't even see the obvious, so how could you possibly show me anything?
[02:27:05] * TheMightyBuzzard shows Gravis his hairy bean bag
[02:27:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine and tea time. back in 10.
[02:28:19] <chromas> put tea leaves in your pipe and drink 'em
[02:29:05] <Gravis> chromas: no, i rather he destroy more cells and cause mutations that will lead to cancer.
[02:29:24] <chromas> why can't he do both?
[02:29:27] <chromas> nicotea
[02:29:42] <Gravis> death is the only way to get rid of the old and foolish
[02:29:54] <chromas> what about the young and foolish?
[02:30:04] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $984
[02:30:37] <Gravis> chromas: you can educate them
[02:30:47] <Bytram> chromas: Darwin Awards?
[02:30:48] <Gravis> chromas: alternatively, murder
[02:30:59] <chromas> oooh
[02:31:07] <chromas> I wonder when colleges will start having shootings
[02:31:17] <chromas> take down a few feminists
[02:31:25] <Gravis> chromas: pff! they already do
[02:32:45] <Gravis> chromas: one guy killed like 50 people before offing himself
[02:33:16] <chromas> I hope it was at a Privilege or BLM rally
[02:33:28] <Gravis> nope
[02:33:33] <chromas> :(
[02:33:40] <chromas> Such a waste of murder
[02:33:48] <Gravis> and it was because of mental illness
[02:34:31] <Gravis> chromas: however, killing the young and foolish is foolish in itself
[02:34:47] * TheMightyBuzzard yanws
[02:34:51] <chromas> We need to make way for the new robuts
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[02:34:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Humidity More Than Temperature Makes Drives Fail - http://sylnt.us - its-not-the-heat-its-the-humidity
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[02:35:08] <chromas> Cull the population, not raise the quality of it
[02:35:18] <Gravis> chromas: exactly... we'll have the robots take them out when they are children! ;P
[02:35:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> you really should hope for the death of those that oppose you, Gravis. it's the only way you'll ever get anywhere. there are a fuckload more of us than of you.
[02:36:02] * chromas thinks back to the kid in gta 4 whose idea was to genocide hungry people to feed to the rest to reduce world hunger
[02:36:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, no meat worth speaking of on them.
[02:36:22] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i know, they are called congressmen and senators.
[02:36:43] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: bones. think of the broth you could make!
[02:36:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, they are called everyone under the sun who isn't smoking your particular brand of crack.
[02:37:42] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: not really, just the dullards
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[02:39:13] <chromas> Didn't aqu4 have connection-preserving restart?
[02:39:37] <Gravis> chromas: does it matter?
[02:39:43] <chromas> yes
[02:39:49] <Gravis> chromas: why?
[02:40:12] <chromas> connecting to soylent irc takes a long time, plus it's a feature that appears to be missing now for no apparent reason
[02:40:33] <Gravis> chromas: but aqu4 is a worthless bot
[02:40:44] <Gravis> chromas: if it bothers you, just ignore it
[02:41:02] <chromas> didn't say it bothers me; just wondered where the feature went
[02:41:54] <Gravis> chromas: aha! so you lied and in fact it does not matter ;)
[02:42:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> server should be running better now. hung slashd task killed.
[02:42:44] <Gravis> sounds like some great code you go there
[02:43:00] <Gravis> got*
[02:43:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, Subsentient shut it down and restarted it. note the quit message.
[02:43:37] <chromas> I thought that was the default though
[02:43:43] <chromas> oh derp
[02:43:47] <chromas> shutdown vs restart
[02:44:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> would have been ping timeout if it had been a lost connection
[02:44:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yeah, it can do a while running reload
[02:45:32] <Subsentient> chromas: watch this.
[02:45:33] <Subsentient> $restart
[02:45:33] <aqu4> Be right back.
[02:45:34] <aqu4> New aqu4bot instance loaded. Rebuilding list of users in channels. Please wait...
[02:45:42] <aqu4> Restart completed.
[02:45:48] <Subsentient> $time MST
[02:45:49] <aqu4> Wed 2016-03-16 07:45:49 PM MST
[02:45:51] <chromas> that took a long time
[02:45:52] <chromas> :D
[02:46:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> #reload
[02:46:01] <MrPlow> Reloaded
[02:46:05] <cmn32480> ~restart
[02:46:06] <chromas> that's what I was expecting, but at tmb pointed out, you weren't restarting
[02:46:10] <exec> successfully saved buckets file (48.2 kb)
[02:46:12] <chromas> =restart
[02:46:13] <Sprinkles> k
[02:46:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> i win
[02:46:20] <chromas> [all bots restart]
[02:46:20] <Subsentient> yup
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[02:46:35] <chromas> tmb sure if the bot actually restarted and didn't just reload config
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[02:46:57] <cmn32480> 30 seconds for a full restart
[02:46:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, that was it reloading all but like three functions and variables.
[02:47:00] <Subsentient> aqu4bot requires a constant list of all users in all channels, including idents and masks, so she takes a little longer to restart, because she sends WHO requests to every channel to rebuild the database.
[02:47:15] <cmn32480> ~reload
[02:47:29] <cmn32480> ~rehash
[02:47:30] <chromas> the actual connect is the slow part 'cause the server jacks off for awhile during the 'handshake'
[02:47:36] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (149 aliases)
[02:47:59] <cmn32480> 8 seconds for a config reload
[02:48:14] <cmn32480> exec is almost as complex as emacs
[02:48:30] <chromas> Pretty long but it (de)serializes everything too, right?
[02:48:58] * cmn32480 shurgs
[02:49:03] <cmn32480> ask crutchy
[02:49:07] <cmn32480> he wrote the fucker
[02:49:27] * Subsentient notes aqu4bot has a custom, homebrew IRC core written from scratch by Subsentient
[02:50:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> the reload command on MrPlow is pretty simple. it slurps the perl code from the volatile file and evals it. overwrites data and even functions with anything new.
[02:50:33] <Subsentient> aqu4bot uses execvp() to replace the running binary with the new image.
[02:50:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> very insecure if there were any user input going into it.
[02:50:52] <cmn32480> nfi how exec does it
[02:51:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, same same then essentially.
[02:51:52] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Well, you need to recompile aqu4bot if you want a more up-to-date binary loaded, but the reload command is usually used to change config options unchangeable by owner-privilege bot commands.
[02:52:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i keep the core of the bot static though (though theoretically you could overwrite it with stuff in the volatile file) for i hate shit breaking reasons.
[02:54:17] <Subsentient> NEXUS actually shares a good amount of code from aqu4bot.
[02:54:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> testbot don't do shit dynamically except be able to reload the perl interpreter and any perl code and likely never will.
[02:54:32] <Subsentient> in irc.cpp, a lot of that's from aqu4bot's irc.c.
[02:54:59] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: define 'do stuff dynamically'?
[02:55:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, overwrite running code/vars
[02:55:24] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: execvp()
[02:55:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> pass. not interested enough.
[02:56:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> may look into it way, way down the line. have weeks of coding left to even get him to a level i'm satisfied with.
[02:57:10] <Subsentient> fuckin' casuals. I wrote most of aqu4bot's core in 3 days.
[02:57:23] <Subsentient> NEXUS didn't take much longer.
[02:57:30] <Subsentient> Stability is another story.
[02:57:50] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[02:57:52] * exec ceremoniously poops a mighty bundle of terrible puns for #soylent
[02:57:58] <cmn32480> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[02:58:00] * exec dexterously hallucinates my butt of broiled hog anus with TheMightyBuzzard
[02:58:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wrote testbot's core in like a half an hour. external libraries ftw.
[02:58:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> stuff i'm working on now is moving frills from perl to C
[02:59:14] <mrcoolbp> what's up guys, have I missed anything recently? work has been nuts and I've been recovering from a massive virus
[02:59:27] <mrcoolbp> I have not been myself, nor have I been here
[02:59:39] <cmn32480> if you ahven't been you, who have you been?
[02:59:41] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: first commit: https://github.com
[02:59:43] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Initial commit for aqu4bot · Subsentient/aqu4bot@c77c73a · GitHub
[02:59:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, nothin much. you still got around two weeks till the next site upgrade.
[02:59:59] <Subsentient> Dated Feb 5, 2014
[03:00:20] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[03:00:21] <Sprinkles> ^ 03US Secret Service regrets delays to Gerry Adams' visit to White House St Patrick's event - BBC News
[03:00:23] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: oh yeah we got some cool features on that puppy?
[03:00:25] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[03:00:25] <Sprinkles> ^ 03NASA celebrates 50-year anniversary of first spaceship docking in orbit • The Register
[03:00:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, sooper sekrit stuff. well not really since it's all on github.
[03:00:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yes. some very cool stuff.
[03:01:03] <mrcoolbp> noice
[03:02:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> getting rid of improved threaded and nested. replacing them with threaded. threaded getting css-only (NO javascript! woot!) collapsible comments. pagination working in a more sane manner on threaded comments. other stuff too that i forget.
[03:04:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's living on dev now if you wanna check it out
[03:10:01] <mrcoolbp> I saw some of it a few weeks ago I think, good work there
[03:10:14] <mrcoolbp> what about the pagination on the front page? that shit still bothers me = (
[03:10:21] <mrcoolbp> not a huge deal but yanno
[03:10:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, already read comments getting dimmed too
[03:10:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> what about it? i haven't paid it any attention cause i rarely hit the front page. rss
[03:11:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, patination links still need a flag to not update the read count
[03:13:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, /. has paid code monkeys and we still push out more nifty than they do.
[03:13:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, i want a raise
[03:14:13] <mrcoolbp> rofl
[03:14:21] <mrcoolbp> wait...what you got dimmed read comments!
[03:14:40] * mrcoolbp gives TheMightyBuzzard a 699,832,874% raise
[03:14:56] <mrcoolbp> is that going in the deploy?
[03:15:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, turns out we had this log for just such an occasion in the db that we weren't writing to.
[03:15:18] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: just a heads up, but I fully expect a hue and cry about losing viewing options by those who have defaulted to those choices (threaded / nested / etc.)
[03:15:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[03:15:42] <Bytram> biab
[03:15:42] <Bytram> afk
[03:15:50] * Subsentient offers TheMightyBuzzard a chunky puke milkshake with cat testicles on top
[03:16:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, if they want the javascript version back, we'll be happy to let them use the code as a userscript.
[03:16:11] * mrcoolbp cuts Subsentient's pay by 10%
[03:16:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> there was no difference between threaded and nested and the only difference between threaded and improved was that script.
[03:16:40] * Bytram suggests mrcoolbp donate the extra 10% to TheMightyBuzzard
[03:16:44] * Subsentient projectile vomits scalding peanut butter at mrcoolbp
[03:16:58] * mrcoolbp runs
[03:17:15] <Bytram> noo JS sounds good.
[03:17:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. it's gonna be a fun update for lots of folks. least the ones who have accounts.
[03:17:58] <Bytram> too late for me to be able to picture /process the different display options -- I just have my thresholds, etc to show me ALL comments (-1, and up) threaded, oldest first.
[03:18:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> you get all comments loaded now anyway. if they're below $threshold they just come pre-collapsed
[03:18:41] <Bytram> would help to have some release notes to work from for testing purposes, as well as to review before posting to the community.
[03:19:25] <mrcoolbp> well we can always roll back
[03:19:29] <Bytram> yeah, I don't entirely like that approach; its using up bandwidth but the user just doesn't see it.
[03:19:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, i might can write some of them up over vacation but don't hold yer breath.
[03:19:39] * Bytram exhales
[03:19:44] <Bytram> breaktime; biab
[03:19:47] <Bytram> afk
[03:19:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, biggest commented story you feel like picking will still be under a meg.
[03:20:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> and no reload to see stuff below your threshold. you never have to change it.
[03:20:51] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: http://www.ebaumsworld.com
[03:20:52] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Vomit Milkshake - Video | eBaum's World
[03:21:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, you are overly fascinated by regurgitation
[03:22:04] <Subsentient> *regurgitating intensifies*
[03:22:05] <chromas> nah, he just keeps regurgitating it
[03:22:18] * TheMightyBuzzard nods sagely to chromas
[03:22:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> #redtube ass smoothie
[03:22:39] <MrPlow> http://www.redtube.com
[03:23:03] <Subsentient> I'm going to make a gif out of this vomit video and post it to imgur with the 'aww' tag.
[03:23:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> yer gonna get banned
[03:23:26] <chromas> again
[03:24:08] <Subsentient> ;^)
[03:24:13] <Subsentient> Been there, done that.
[03:24:35] <Subsentient> Got out of the last one by filing a protest saying "but it was just a gif of a medical procedure treating nasal cholesteatoma!"
[03:26:06] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[03:26:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg. past my bedtime. i shall sleep now.
[03:42:54] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[03:43:17] <Bytram|away> same here...
[03:43:23] <Bytram|away> ~gnight #soylent
[03:43:25] * exec dexterously fires an exchange server of gold nuggets at #soylent
[03:44:30] <Bytram|away> #submit http://arstechnica.com
[03:44:31] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[03:45:01] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[03:52:12] <Gravis> MrPlow: fuck you plow man! submit that shit faster! >:(
[03:53:23] <Gravis> =͟͟͞͞(๑•̀д•́๑=͟͟͞͞(๑•̀д•́๑=͟͟͞͞(๑•̀д•́๑)DOIT.
[04:06:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EU Advocate General Says Open Wi-Fi Operators Not Liable for Copyright Infringement by Users - http://sylnt.us - download-from-the-neighbor
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[04:11:40] * chromas sets up a neighborhood wifi exchange
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[05:23:27] <geotti> mh, someone feel like summarizing this up? (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/03/drm-non-aggression-table-w3c)
[05:23:28] <Sprinkles> ^ 03DRM Non-Aggression on the Table at W3C | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[05:23:43] <geotti> tea++
[05:23:43] <Bender> karma - tea: 540
[05:23:54] <geotti> hi, btw.. off again
[05:37:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Courts Oracle Customers - http://sylnt.us - switching-vendor-lockins?
[05:55:00] <SirFinkus> Vemin Supreme 2016!
[05:55:03] <SirFinkus> Vermin!
[05:55:04] <SirFinkus> Vermin!
[05:55:05] <SirFinkus> Vermin!
[06:15:08] <chromas> DRM µAgression
[07:00:54] <crutchy> http://www.sciencealert.com
[07:00:55] <Sprinkles> ^ 03A devastating 'double-fault' earthquake could be in store for California, warns expert - ScienceAlert
[07:01:06] <crutchy> from the scare-floor dept.
[07:03:29] <crutchy> http://www.sciencealert.com
[07:03:29] <Sprinkles> ^ 03This painful video shows what it was like to send an email in 1984 - ScienceAlert
[07:03:33] <chromas> california--
[07:03:33] <Bender> karma - california: 0
[07:04:10] <crutchy> from the future-people-have-nfi-what-email-is dept.
[07:08:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New CyanogenMod Release is Based on Android 6 - http://sylnt.us - better-then-the-flashers-on-the-subway
[07:10:43] <crutchy> http://www.sciencealert.com
[07:10:53] <Sprinkles> ^ 03WATCH: A McDonald’s Big Mac is "indestructible" when covered in molten copper - ScienceAlert
[07:11:11] <crutchy> from the probably-taste-bettr-too dept.
[07:36:15] <crutchy> ~submit http://www.sciencealert.com
[07:36:44] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
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[08:40:09] <crutchy> ~submit http://www.sciencealert.com
[08:40:40] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
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[09:09:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tennessee House Panel Kills Municipal Broadband Expansion Bill - http://sylnt.us - our-politicians-stay-bought
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[10:18:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:18:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2363
[10:36:40] <crutchy> water++
[10:36:40] <Bender> karma - water: 30
[10:38:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> !?
[10:38:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> are we ill?
[10:39:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> did a dropbear maul you and you need to hydrate to replenish some lost blood?
[10:41:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Updating Android Without Vendor Help is a Nightmare - http://sylnt.us - it-is-easy-when-you-control-the-hardware
[10:45:22] <crutchy> nah. just feel like drinking water tonight
[10:45:40] <crutchy> filtered/chilled so its not bad
[10:47:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> .... we've lost you to the dark side
[10:47:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> or maybe the light. whichever side doesn't have cookies
[10:57:06] <crutchy> tomorrow i'll be opening a bottle of red
[10:57:23] <crutchy> s/ / night /
[10:57:25] <exec> <crutchy> tomorrow night i'll be opening a bottle of red
[11:01:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, well that's fine then.
[11:02:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> just as long as it's an aberration and you're not abandoning us to become decaffeinated and healthy
[11:04:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> well shit, i did everything i was sposed to check on already
[11:07:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess i should start some laundry, take the trash out, and then play with testbot
[11:07:16] <crutchy> test
[11:07:55] <crutchy> --expression s/ls//
[11:07:55] <Sprinkles> Karma - expression: -1
[11:08:19] * crutchy takes a look at sed.php
[11:08:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll move his settings into the sqlite db so i don't gotta hardcode them
[11:09:24] * crutchy isn't convinced there's not a vulnerability in exec's sed command
[11:09:41] <crutchy> a gnu'tastic one
[11:10:15] <chromas> that's the way, tmb. all my bot's settings are in its 'db' too, even my irc password :D
[11:10:34] <crutchy> =db ./password
[11:10:36] <crutchy> :p
[11:10:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that way you can hose yourself quite thoroughly just by rm-ing one file
[11:10:53] * crutchy sux at haxoring
[11:11:52] * TheMightyBuzzard starts gathering all his eggs into the same basket
[11:12:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh wait, it's nicotine time
[11:18:52] * chromas has >$25 in coins; is rich
[11:21:33] <crutchy> the s/.*/ls/e hack definitely works, but i prevented the use of /e. can't help thinking maybe --expression could be used somehow
[11:22:15] <crutchy> hmm actually looks like --expression is just longform of -e, which exec already uses
[11:23:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> s#nicotine#miller#
[11:23:26] <exec> <TheMightyBuzzard> oh wait, it's miller time
[11:23:45] <chromas> wrong sir!
[11:24:05] <chromas> s💩.*💩\💩💩g
[11:24:09] <chromas> exec--
[11:24:10] <Bender> karma - exec: 34
[11:24:31] <chromas> s💩.*💩y💩
[11:24:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> best way to do it would be pull the two expressions out and slap them in your regex. no worries about having flags added at all then.
[11:25:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl you'd have to watch for people using variables you have defined though. so you'd need to escape $, %, and @
[11:28:42] <crutchy> chromas, apparently can be anything except alphanumeric or \
[11:29:01] <crutchy> but i hardcoded an array of permitted chars and currently only has / and #
[11:29:02] <chromas> or fancy unichode characters
[11:29:06] <chromas> ah
[11:29:10] <crutchy> or maybe yeah
[11:29:25] <chromas> limits--
[11:29:25] <Bender> karma - limits: -1
[11:29:36] * chromas wants to h4x0rz the bot planet
[11:29:38] <crutchy> unicode is too neckbeard for rms
[11:29:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> zero-one-infinity++
[11:29:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> bender doesn't like that?
[11:30:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> zero_one_infinity++
[11:30:01] <Bender> karma - zero_one_infinity: 1
[11:30:14] <crutchy> did you see konomi's linux beard thing. damn funny
[11:30:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...need to find a way to make zero_one_infinity's karma jump immediately to infinity.
[11:30:34] <crutchy> https://i.imgur.com
[11:30:56] <crutchy> what's a windows xp beard?
[11:31:40] <chromas> an inverted penis
[11:31:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> I was going to suggest a cleft lip
[11:32:19] <crutchy> or a sweaty pallmer :p
[11:34:46] <cmn32480> ~gdau crutchy
[11:34:50] <cmn32480> ~gday crutchy
[11:34:52] * exec flatulantly crossbreeds a mountain of 💩 with crutchy
[11:35:10] <crutchy> ~g'day cmn32480
[11:35:12] * exec covertly blows a powerpoint presentation of bacon at cmn32480
[11:35:24] <crutchy> oh that's just fuckin nasty exec
[11:35:40] <crutchy> death by powerpoint is worse than waterboarding
[11:35:55] <cmn32480> agreeed
[11:36:14] <cmn32480> how goes things this morning?
[11:36:30] <cmn32480> ~gday Anytheabsurd
[11:36:32] * exec ceremoniously microagresses a B cup of seven of nine at Anytheabsurd
[11:36:37] <cmn32480> ~gday chromas
[11:36:39] * exec accidentally shoves an A cup of active directory in chromas
[11:36:45] <crutchy> listening to music, pondering some code, not really doing any, chattin, wasting time
[11:37:03] <cmn32480> I just arrived at the office...
[11:37:09] <cmn32480> waiting for the coffee++
[11:37:18] <crutchy> ~time
[11:37:19] <exec> Thursday, 17 March 2016 @ 10:37 pm GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC
[11:37:25] <chromas> ~g'day fellas
[11:37:27] * exec scientifically farts a socket of a lazy insult at fellas
[11:37:30] * chromas thinks of Butters
[11:37:57] <crutchy> hmm. surely we have already...
[11:37:57] <cmn32480> Butters is good at all kinds of jobs
[11:38:11] <crutchy> ~g'day >beverage butt butter
[11:38:12] <exec> added to beverages
[11:38:20] <crutchy> guess not :p
[11:38:22] <cmn32480> admin
[11:38:38] <cmn32480> damnit.. now everybody knows my passwrod
[11:38:47] <crutchy> all i saw was ****]\
[11:39:06] <chromas> Fireman Butters vs Fire Marshall Bill
[11:39:10] <crutchy> i think my fingers have gotten fatter since getting a new kb
[11:39:33] <cmn32480> anything good? or jsut a standard $9(US) keyboard
[11:39:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> not mine. the keys are closer together than on my model-M though.
[11:39:51] <crutchy> nah its a pretty swish one. for me anyway
[11:40:18] <crutchy> ~g asus strix tactic pro
[11:40:20] <exec> [google] https://www.asus.com
[11:40:56] <chromas> macro_keys++
[11:40:56] <Bender> karma - macro_keys: 2
[11:42:11] <cmn32480> ooooo pretty!
[11:43:06] <crutchy> just wanted something cherry blues
[11:44:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~g razer blackwidow 2014
[11:44:12] <exec> [google] www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards.../razer-blackwidow-ultimate-20...
[11:44:32] <crutchy> google--
[11:44:32] <Bender> karma - google: -18
[11:44:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> weaksauce, google
[11:45:09] <crutchy> http://www.razerzone.com
[11:45:10] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
[11:45:33] <crutchy> wtf? flash... really?
[11:46:04] <crutchy> everyone keeps saying flash is ded
[11:46:11] <cmn32480> I wish....
[11:46:23] <cmn32480> it will take 10 years
[11:46:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.amazon.com
[11:46:29] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Amazon.com: Razer BlackWidow Expert Mechanical Gaming Keyboard: Computers Accessories ( http://www.amazon.com )
[11:46:29] <cmn32480> for ti to die completely
[11:46:32] <crutchy> did you get the one with pretty colors, tmb?
[11:46:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, rainbows is for lusers
[11:46:56] <crutchy> lol
[11:47:14] <crutchy> mine comes with orange, orange or orange backlight color options :p
[11:47:39] <cmn32480> what good is the one w/o the number pad?
[11:48:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, not much to me. which is why i got one with it.
[11:48:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> i spose maybe if you had a really, really small desk. like one from gradeschool...
[11:48:52] <chromas> number_pads++
[11:48:53] <Bender> karma - number_pads: 1
[11:49:00] <crutchy> games only need wasd anyway don't they?
[11:49:03] <crutchy> and space and enter
[11:49:06] <chromas> communicating_solely_through_karma++
[11:49:06] <Bender> karma - communicating_solely_through_karma: 1
[11:49:11] <crutchy> lol
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[11:50:20] <cmn32480> I can't find mine anymore
[11:50:27] <cmn32480> been more then a couple years
[11:50:32] <chromas> your karma or your keyboard?
[11:50:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> your keyboard?
[11:50:36] <cmn32480> both
[11:50:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ?!
[11:50:52] <crutchy> cmn32480++ # praise the keyboard
[11:50:52] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 55
[11:50:53] <cmn32480> I mena.. I can find the one on my desk... but can't find it online
[11:51:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> typing by shorting ps2 pins with a paperclip then?
[11:51:29] <crutchy> nah you're sposed to use your tongue
[11:51:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine's not pointy enough
[11:51:42] <crutchy> get into that socket boy
[11:53:12] <cmn32480> that's how I got 3 kids...
[12:00:47] <crutchy> dammit. now i'm googling hf transceivers :|
[12:01:38] * chromas steals crutchy's antenna rotator
[12:03:30] <crutchy> woooooww!!!... http://www.astrosurf.com
[12:04:24] <crutchy> i want one of them just to show it off to visitors
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[12:04:39] <crutchy> "oh wow that's cool.. what's it do?" me: "nfi"
[12:04:40] <crutchy> :p
[12:05:09] <crutchy> talks to aliems or something
[12:05:23] <chromas> you can do software-defined radio using one of those usb tv tuners
[12:07:29] <crutchy> when i was a kid i used to drool over them in the electronics catalogues
[12:07:45] <crutchy> mostly uniden ones, but they still looked cool
[12:09:18] <cmn32480> thing probably has more holes than a whore house
[12:10:02] <crutchy> ooh and yeasu. i think they're probably a better brand
[12:11:31] <crutchy> chromas, like this one: http://www.qsl.net
[12:11:32] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Pegasus Model 550 Image Gallery
[12:11:35] <crutchy> looks interesting
[12:12:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Princess" Joan of Sealand Independent State Dies at 86 - http://sylnt.us - royal-flood
[12:14:49] <chromas> or one of these: http://www.gearbest.com
[12:14:49] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Access Denied
[12:14:55] <chromas> niggles
[12:22:01] * chromas notes that the description is oppressive
[12:22:48] <crutchy> the antenna is too small. insufficient penis points
[12:23:26] <crutchy> even the wifi antenna my missus uses is biggerer than that
[12:26:54] <chromas> it's not permanently attached
[12:27:49] <chromas> though it doesn't transmit, unlike the pegasus
[12:28:01] <chromas> sdr++
[12:28:01] <Bender> karma - sdr: 1
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[12:30:10] <chromas> #pinch crutchy
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[13:43:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Future of Pale Moon Web Browser - http://sylnt.us - 紙の月
[13:50:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> paper moon?
[15:04:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> Pale Moon is great
[15:05:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> It's like Firefox before Mozilla decided that Firefox should mostly be a clone of Chrome.
[15:33:33] <Gravis> whenever i read the username "aristarchus" it translates in my brain to "antichrist" like every fucking time
[15:45:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Stimulating the Brain With Electricity Could Improve Stroke Recovery - http://sylnt.us - getting-buzzed-takes-on-new-meaning
[16:23:16] <cmn32480> gravis: I get the same feeling when I see --Original Owner_
[17:04:57] <paulej72> blood moon
[17:13:46] <Runaway1956> The Easter Island head finally gets a clue
[17:13:51] <Runaway1956> http://www.nbcnews.com
[17:13:51] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Kerry: ISIS Is Committing Genocide Against Yazidis, Christians and Shiite Muslims - NBC News
[17:16:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Automatic Brakes Coming to Nearly All U.S. Cars by 2022 - http://sylnt.us - what-could-possibly-go-wrong?
[17:17:17] <Runaway1956> Automatic brakes are stupid, unless the car drives itself autonomously -
[17:17:47] <Runaway1956> In which case, it needs to be "connected" to all the other cars around it, so they can talk with each other
[17:21:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> Runaway1956: Why? Automatic brakes will prevent many rear end impact crashes.
[17:22:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> (I'd say "all" but there will undoubtedly be edge cases and system failures that still allow such crashes to occur - just much less frequently than today.)
[17:22:48] <Runaway1956> I've talked to a lot of truck drivers, who tell me they are pure crap -
[17:23:01] <Runaway1956> they are probably less crappy in a smaller vehicle, but still crap
[17:23:27] <Runaway1956> If things are moving in that direction, just skip the automatic braking, and make the car self-driving
[17:24:42] <Runaway1956> In a self driving car, you can allow yourself to be "distracted" with a video game, a movie, a book, and the constant braking doesn't drive you berserk
[17:25:06] <Runaway1956> Of course, if they are all interconnected, there won't BE constant braking.
[17:25:41] <Runaway1956> Slow lane goes slow, fast lanes go progressively faster, and everyone yields properly, etc - no braking
[17:26:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> If people actually understood the nature of reaction time and the physics of braking, there wouldn't be constant braking even in manually driven cars.
[17:26:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> I rarely even touch the brake unless there's a red light or stop sign in front of me.
[17:26:38] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhhhhh - that's the problem. People don't understand the simple things that they shoudl understand
[17:26:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> Or they're too impatient, so they tailgate
[17:27:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> Or they underestimate their reaction
[17:27:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> Or they overestimate their vehicle's stopping ability
[17:27:26] <Runaway1956> Tailgaters just kill me - I was taught the five second rule, no one observes that today
[17:27:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> Humans are generally pretty poor at that stuff.
[17:27:37] <Runaway1956> You're lucky if the guy behind you is two seconds behind
[17:27:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> I was taught two seconds but I usually try to leave more like 2.5 to 3 seconds following distance
[17:28:36] <Runaway1956> 3 seconds is the minimum, IMO - five seconds actually allows you to be marginally distracted from time to time
[17:28:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> (impossible in Boston, though - following distance there is usually like 0.5 seconds, if you leave enough room for a car to slide in between you and the guy in front of you, one will.)
[17:28:56] <Runaway1956> I don't mean texting distracted, but change the radio, or light a cigarrette
[17:29:24] <Runaway1956> I know, I've driven all over the US and Canada
[17:29:37] <Runaway1956> Some places are better, some are worse, but none are great any more.
[17:30:10] <Runaway1956> 50 miles of deserted highway in New Mexico or Utah - and some jerkwad comes up behind you to tailgate
[17:31:05] <Runaway1956> Ever been tailgated by a tumbleweed?
[17:31:41] <Runaway1956> Doing 70 mph in California, I looked in the mirror, and there was honest to God a pack of tumbleweeds chasing me down the highway
[17:31:48] <mythterj> why do people fear and loath someone sliding in front of them? Does it ACTUALLY make a difference in arrival time?
[17:32:21] <Runaway1956> That is only because so many fools cut in front of you, then spike the brakes
[17:34:21] <Runaway1956> newsfeed says Frank Sinatra Jr died
[17:34:50] <Runaway1956> Is that the really famous Sinatra's son? At 72, he's only 12 years older than me
[17:40:46] <Runaway1956> rebooting
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[17:42:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> mythterj: because now, when the guy three or four cars up has a stupid deer jump out in front of him and slams on HIS brakes, now *I* don't have room to stop without hitting the guy in front of me anymore.
[17:45:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> basically it's fear of a chain reaction of stupidity causing me to win the bet I'm required to make with my insurance company.
[17:46:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> Since I'm legally required to bet with them, and I have to put more on the line every time I win, I always aim to lose that bet.
[17:49:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> s/legally required to bet with them/required to bet with them in order to legally drive my car/
[17:49:26] <exec> <AndyTheAbsurd> Since I'm required to bet with them in order to legally drive my car, and I have to put more on the line every time I win, I always aim to lose that bet.
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[17:56:48] <cmn32480> I thought you never had to reboot Linux
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[18:00:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> You don't *have* to, but it's recommended so that you'll be running a newer kernel with security updates - and it's a hell of a lot easier to just reboot than it is setting up the kernel hot-swap thing.
[18:13:33] <cmn32480> Another Linux Lie exposed!
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[18:24:40] <CoolHand> but there is in-place kernel patching now..
[18:27:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> there has been for several years IIRC
[18:27:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> but apparently there are various reasons that it's a Bad Idea.
[18:27:58] <CoolHand> yeah.. ksplice/uptrack is easy to setup..
[18:28:05] <CoolHand> there are a few theoretical ones..
[18:28:43] <CoolHand> waiting to see how the distro's implement live patching nwo that mainline kernel has it built in
[18:28:59] <CoolHand> I want to see something from debian or Arch or slackware..
[18:29:21] <CoolHand> not sure RedHat and children will do it since it will break their agreements with ksplice
[18:47:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - President Obama Nominates Merrick Garland For Supreme Court - http://sylnt.us - judging-judge's-judgers
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[20:21:01] <SirFinkus> done with classes this quarter
[20:21:05] <SirFinkus> SPRING BREAK WOOOOOOOOO
[20:21:09] * SirFinkus exposes breasts
[20:21:50] * Subsentient farts on SirFinkus' face
[20:22:03] <SirFinkus> usually I have to pay extra for that
[20:22:03] <SirFinkus> thanks
[20:22:12] <Subsentient> :^3
[20:22:35] <Subsentient> Trying out the new write-buffer-based NEXUS
[20:22:45] <Subsentient> So far, so good
[20:24:19] <Subsentient> .
[20:24:21] <Subsentient> $wz
[20:24:21] <aqu4> 3[1 of 1] Name: test join pls | Map: Sk-Rush | Host: GlaDos | Players: 1/4 | IP: 178.1.211.155 | Version: 3.1.3
[20:41:07] <crutchy> its been raining heavily here for hours
[20:41:14] <crutchy> ~weather
[20:41:15] <exec> 04Traralgon VIC - currently 18°C, rain, wind N at 6 km/h, humidity 91% - Friday heavy rain (12°C:18°C), Saturday scattered showers (9°C:18°C), Sunday mostly sunny (10°C:21°C), Monday mostly sunny (11°C:22°C)
[20:41:46] <crutchy> stupid rain. i gotta go to work still
[20:48:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Whole Body Simulation of Blood Flow Achieves New Level of Accuracy - http://sylnt.us - vampires-rejoice
[20:49:25] <SirFinkus> it'a BEAUTIFUL day here
[20:49:40] <SirFinkus> １３℃ not a cloud in the sky
[20:50:04] <SirFinkus> and on top of all that, I'm about to have an empty colon
[21:03:07] <crutchy> is Gravis there with you?
[21:06:45] <SirFinkus> no
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[21:34:15] <cmn32480> ~weather
[21:34:17] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 62°F / 17°C, cloudy, wind NW at 14 mph, humidity 35% - Thursday partly cloudy (44°F:68°F / 7°C:20°C), Friday mostly sunny (37°F:63°F / 3°C:17°C), Saturday scattered showers (36°F:47°F / 2°C:8°C), Sunday rain and snow (29°F:39°F / -2°C:4°C)
[21:53:26] <chromas> hahahahaha!
[21:53:36] <chromas> new tumblr meme: birthrape
[22:14:31] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[22:20:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Most "Hoverboards" Set to be Banned From US, Courtesy of Segway - http://sylnt.us - hoverest-thou-no-more
[22:24:43] <Bytram> !uid
[22:24:43] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6162, owned by raumschiff
[22:24:53] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[22:24:55] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 50°F, light rain showers, wind NW at 20 mph, humidity 61% - Thursday isolated thunderstorms (42°F:61°F), Friday scattered showers (27°F:53°F), Saturday mostly sunny (27°F:43°F), Sunday snow showers (31°F:35°F)
[22:24:58] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[22:25:00] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 49°F, cloudy, wind W at 13 mph, humidity 60% - Thursday scattered showers (38°F:54°F), Friday showers (22°F:47°F), Saturday sunny (22°F:39°F), Sunday mostly cloudy (26°F:34°F)
[22:25:05] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[22:25:07] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 33°F, cloudy, wind SE at 4 mph, humidity 89% - Thursday scattered snow showers (20°F:37°F), Friday cloudy (7°F:30°F), Saturday mostly cloudy (5°F:24°F), Sunday mostly sunny (17°F:30°F)
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[22:29:47] <Gravis> chromas: anyone that uses "birthrape" seriously, should in fact be sterilized
[22:30:10] <chromas> well it's tumblr so…yeah
[22:30:44] <chromas> home to both tons of porn and sex-negative feminists
[22:30:45] <Bytram> this looks interesting: http://go.theregister.com
[22:30:48] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Top rocket exec quits after telling the truth about SpaceX price war • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[22:30:57] <Gravis> chromas: but they got it from some dipshit that meant it as a serious thing
[22:31:35] <chromas> right. that's tumblr
[22:32:25] <Gravis> Bytram: they are criminals
[22:36:15] <Bytram> and now that I finally got hexchat upgraded and finally working again... I need to head out for the evening.
[22:36:21] <Bytram> laters, folks!
[22:36:30] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
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[22:42:03] <SubiculumHammer> rock
[22:42:22] <SubiculumHammer> just kidding. Hammer
[22:49:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, house cleaned up. just gotta throw some clothes in the bag and i'm good to go for heading out on vacation.
[22:54:29] <takyon> we'll make sure to tank the site for you
[22:55:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good
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[23:44:57] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[23:44:58] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Missouri Victory Gives Clinton A Belated Mega Tuesday Sweep : NPR
[23:45:03] <takyon> http://www.vice.com
[23:45:04] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Hillary Clinton's 'Broad City' Appearance Appealed to 18–34-Year-Olds | VICE | United States
[23:47:45] <takyon> ahahahahah look at this
[23:47:46] <takyon> https://broadly.vice.com
[23:47:47] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Something's Afoot: The War Inside the World's Largest Celebrity Feet Forum | Broadly