#Soylent | Logs for 2016-03-14

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[00:02:18] <nick> if people want to go vegetarian or vegan that's cool, but i cant see a majority of the human population getting behind that, i'd think we'll be on soylent-green before that happens
[00:02:34] <nick> bacon++
[00:02:34] <Bender> karma - bacon: 309
[00:03:36] * cmn32480 wonders how to mod an IRC comment Insightful...
[00:03:43] <cmn32480> nick++
[00:03:43] <Bender> karma - nick: 6
[00:03:46] <cmn32480> n1++
[00:03:46] <Bender> karma - n1: 16
[00:16:35] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $697
[00:51:35] <cmn32480> ~uid
[00:51:36] <exec> The current maximum UID is 6156, owned by Burz
[01:27:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> that was some quality soup
[01:28:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> mess of different veggies was fine but what really kicked it into badass mode was the meat was trimmings from when we cut up two huge slabs of rib steaks.
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[01:35:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, Bytram
[01:36:28] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: yo! howz things?
[01:37:08] * Bytram is tired, but good.
[01:37:19] <Bytram> just checking in for a bit before I call it a night.
[01:38:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty good. should finish up submissions on the new bot in the morning then on to fixing pagination for april
[01:38:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Qubes OS 3.1 is released - http://sylnt.us - it's-kinda-square
[01:38:58] <Bytram> nice nice
[01:39:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> also got a belly full o good foods and bout to let that talk me into an early bedtime
[01:39:41] <Bytram> any thoughts on the user's karma affecting journal visibility in the "Most Recent Journal Entries" slashbox?
[01:39:54] <Bytram> same state here.
[01:40:12] <Bytram> had some thoughts on that whole template, but dunno if it could be done.
[01:40:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> no new ones.
[01:40:42] <Bytram> {nick] the-title-Of-the-journal-entry comment_count
[01:40:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's gonna take a bit of a complex sql query if we can even do it with one.
[01:40:55] <Bytram> would like clicking on 'nick' to take me to user's journal page.
[01:41:20] <Bytram> clicking on 'the-title-of-the-journal-article' to take me to the journal article itself, with comments expanded
[01:41:44] <Bytram> and the comment-count lets me keep abreast of whether there has been any activity since I last looked.
[01:42:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> comment count is prolly gonna stay where it is. be easier to drop you a message
[01:42:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> no hill for a stepper to drop the journal author a message when they get a comment on one of their journal entries.
[01:43:53] <Bytram> not sure if I follow,or if I am explaining myself clearly... am looking for this format for all of the stories that appear in th4 most recent journal entries slashbox
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[01:44:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh rather keep that as succinct as possible personally. pj may lurve the idea though.
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[01:45:37] <Bytram> well, I see a journal entry that catches my eye. I click on it. doesn't take me to the journal entry... no no no, it takes me to the person's entire journal.
[01:45:54] <Bytram> oh, and only then can I tell if there are more comments there than the last time.
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[01:46:24] <Bytram> if so, I need to click on the comments thingy to actually see the comments -- geesh... couldn't it have done that right from the get-go?
[01:47:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, fixing that i don't have issue with. it really should take you to the journal entry.
[01:47:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> but it's a bitsy little slashbox and we already have line wrapping issues with long journal titles/nicks
[01:48:10] <Bytram> and, if we are doing something about that tremplate anyway for karma thresholding, wanted to mention it before someone dove in there; could feed two bird with one worm!
[01:48:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[01:48:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dunno that i'll have time. off vacationing for a week starting saturday.
[01:49:14] <Bytram> I'm gflad you understand... is toolate and I'm too tired to figure out another way to explain t!
[01:49:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on how long pagination takes.
[01:49:26] <Bytram> enjoy your vaca!
[01:49:44] <Bytram> I'll be mostly unavailable this coming weekend friday pm through sunday pm
[01:49:45] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - haven't you been on vacation for a year?
[01:49:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, more or less i spose
[01:50:09] <cmn32480> uh
[01:50:10] <cmn32480> oh
[01:50:19] <cmn32480> not enought lactaid pills with the pizza at dinner
[01:50:35] <Bytram> !fight this that
[01:50:43] * cmn32480 may disappear suddenly
[01:50:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheese loves me. my lactose intolerance is perfectly balanced with cheese's binding powers
[01:51:01] * Bytram bets we'd still see his smile
[01:51:03] <cmn32480> nope
[01:51:17] <cmn32480> only the vertical one bytram
[01:51:19] * Bytram seeks out a tank of nitrous oxide for special delivery
[01:51:32] <cmn32480> cheese hates me
[01:51:48] <cmn32480> runs through me like Carl Lewis in the hundred meters
[01:52:03] <chromas> cheese++
[01:52:03] <Bender> karma - cheese: 13
[01:52:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, i can sit down n eat a whole pound block of it if i want and everything works out fine in the end
[01:52:36] <Bytram> mmm cheese!
[01:52:49] <chromas> a whole block of cheese? do you have a rat stick? get back in the basement, charlie!
[01:52:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> BEHOLD THE POWER OF CHEESE
[01:52:50] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: same here
[01:53:02] <cmn32480> it all works out the end all right... like cheese trying to break Mach 1 coming out of my asshole
[01:53:11] <Bytram> well, 12-oz (1 lb? can't remember) of sharp cheese
[01:53:19] <cmn32480> 16oz
[01:53:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, saying you could shit through a screen door without hitting a wire?
[01:53:40] <Bytram> ok, I think thatis my cue for heading to bed.
[01:53:45] <Bytram> =)
[01:53:48] <cmn32480> ~gnight bytram
[01:53:49] * exec crutchyly vomits a volley of pyjama time on bytram
[01:53:53] <Bytram> sleep well, my friends!
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[01:54:12] <nick> http://twoicefloes.com
[01:54:13] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Down The Trump Rabbit Hole ? Manufacturing Consent | Two Ice Floes
[01:54:15] * TheMightyBuzzard has plenty of fun colloquialisms like that
[01:54:21] <chromas> it's just that, afterward, the screen's wire would go from solid to stranded
[01:54:23] <nick> g'night Bytram|away
[01:54:55] <Bytram|away> nick: g'night!
[01:55:09] <Bytram|away> almost forgot...
[01:55:11] <Bytram|away> ~time x
[01:55:12] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - it'd be rust colored when I am done for sure
[01:55:13] <exec> Monday, 14 March 2016 @ 1:55 am UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[01:55:32] <Bytram|away> ~folding-rank
[01:55:34] <exec> 071702
[01:55:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, more saying you could shit over a five-wire fence then?
[01:55:57] <Bytram|away> next update is in only a few minutes; predict we'll break into the 12xx's by then
[01:56:22] <Bytram|away> ugh, 16xx's
[01:56:32] <cmn32480> buzzard - I could shit over a standard chainlink fence with barbed wire on top
[01:56:47] <cmn32480> ~gngiht Bytram|away
[01:56:55] <cmn32480> ~gnight Bytram|away
[01:56:57] * exec insensitively inserts a chest of bling blong into Bytram|away
[01:57:27] <cmn32480> whomever keeps populating that gday file is a very sick person/people
[01:57:39] <Gravis> cmn32480: you could eat shit off a fence?!
[01:57:40] * cmn32480 looks at chromas and crutchy
[01:57:51] <Bytram|away> btw, we just passed the NetBSD team today
[01:57:52] <Gravis> cmn32480: like... bird shit?
[01:57:54] <chromas> Gravis: did the fence eat cheese?
[01:58:04] <Gravis> cmn32480: dude, wtf are you doing eating bird shit?
[01:58:26] <cmn32480> gravis - read the back scroll... then come apologize for being a numbskull
[01:58:43] <chromas> not sure Gravis understands context
[01:59:00] <Gravis> cmn32480: look, i'm not into eating bird shit or any other kind of shit. i'll pass on mulling it over some more
[01:59:06] <cmn32480> chromas: s/context/anything/
[01:59:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, i dunno about him but i do it to mix with the charcoal and sulfur i ate earlier. makes for even more exciting farts.
[01:59:09] <exec> <cmn32480> <chromas> not sure Gravis understands anything
[01:59:09] * chromas talks shit; receives block of cheese
[01:59:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> just makes lighting them a very risky proposition
[01:59:46] <cmn32480> I eat cheese so I can shit myself into a smaller wardobe
[02:00:00] <Gravis> lol
[02:00:04] <chromas> thought you were a dude
[02:00:15] <cmn32480> I still wanna keep my girlish figure!
[02:00:18] <chromas> must be trans
[02:00:46] <Gravis> chromas: look, don't assume anything from a person that eats bird shit off of fences
[02:01:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> no transformers allowed. this is a safe zone. nothing related to michael bay allowed.
[02:01:21] * Gravis detonates everything the in background
[02:02:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> strangely appropriate to either michael bay or my farts.
[02:02:21] <chromas> michael bay can never stop making movies until he figures out a way for the explosions to explode
[02:02:31] * cmn32480 hands TheMightyBuzzard lit trick candles
[02:03:32] <Gravis> michael bay! https://imgur.com
[02:03:32] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Unnecessary explosions. - Album on Imgur
[02:03:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> well lookit that, bedtime. i knew you geeks, nerds, trolls, and assorted assholes were good for something.
[02:04:03] <Tramtrist> hah
[02:04:05] <cmn32480> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[02:04:06] * exec transphobically farts wide load of ciri poo at TheMightyBuzzard
[02:04:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> I leave you with this thought...
[02:04:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube kid rock foad
[02:04:29] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[02:04:35] <chromas> we can't smell farts on the internet
[02:04:42] <chromas> aw, I took too long to reply
[02:11:25] <cmn32480> thankfully... THAT's over
[02:31:21] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[02:31:23] * exec implicitly connects my butt of hypergolic buttsauce to #soylent
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[02:51:45] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v nick] by Aphrodite
[02:52:09] <Tramtrist> this place is weird
[03:40:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Real Gordon Gekko Endorses Bernie Sanders - http://sylnt.us - get-money-circulating
[05:11:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft and Rakuten Sign Patent Licensing Agreement Including Linux and Android Devices - http://sylnt.us - microsoft's-hadouken-to-rakuten
[05:16:55] <Tramtrist> what the
[05:17:00] <Tramtrist> need to read that rakuten story later
[05:17:05] <Tramtrist> very confusing
[05:30:25] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v arti] by Aphrodite
[05:47:51] <SirFinkus> did DST kick in yet?
[05:48:04] <SirFinkus> hard to tell, because all my clocks adjust automatically
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[06:33:19] <crutchy> soup++
[06:33:19] <Bender> karma - soup: 3
[06:33:56] <crutchy> ~tell cmn32480 update script is only half-baked at this stage. i'll work on it tonight maybe
[06:33:58] <exec> message saved
[06:54:25] <Runaway1956> ~tell crutchy that we know he is half-baked
[06:54:27] <exec> message saved
[06:55:09] <Runaway1956> coffee++
[06:55:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2351
[06:55:18] <Runaway1956> hamburger++
[06:55:18] <Bender> karma - hamburger: 1
[06:55:31] <Runaway1956> fried onion++
[06:55:50] <Runaway1956> Fried_onions++
[06:55:50] <Bender> karma - fried_onions: 1
[07:00:57] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[07:00:57] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Jimmy Buffett - Cheeseburger In Paradise - YouTube
[07:08:36] <Runaway1956> Hmmmmmm - an entire family sized bag of Lay's potato chips has gone AWOL . . . .
[07:20:08] <lopple> good and smells
[07:24:23] <Runaway1956> concealed_carry++
[07:24:23] <Bender> karma - concealed_carry: 1
[07:24:28] <Runaway1956> http://www.foxnews.com
[07:24:29] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Customer with concealed carry permit fatally shoots ax-wielding attacker at 7-Eleven | Fox News
[07:24:36] <Tramtrist> boom
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[07:43:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tor 5.5.3 and Tails 2.2 Released - http://sylnt.us - top-and-tails
[08:07:24] <crutchy> Runaway1956, should submit that. the gun grabbers will be falling over themselves to defend the would-be axe murderer
[08:07:52] <crutchy> cos remember... axes don't kill people, guns do
[08:08:00] <chromas> axes of evil
[08:08:14] <crutchy> lol
[08:08:25] <chromas> also, insert joke about an axe hole
[08:09:04] <crutchy> that gushes blood?
[08:09:25] <crutchy> ...monthly :/
[08:09:41] <chromas> he painted my new shirt! what an axehole!
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[09:04:16] <SirFinkus> Dear students,
[09:04:16] <SirFinkus> Class is cancelled for Monday, March 14, due to a family emergency.
[09:04:16] <SirFinkus> I will see you on Tuesday, March 15.
[09:04:17] <SirFinkus> YES
[09:04:24] <SirFinkus> no anthropology tomorrow
[09:05:37] <crutchy> tomorrow is tuesday
[09:05:41] <crutchy> :D
[09:05:54] <SirFinkus> not in the civilized world crutchy
[09:06:13] * crutchy was passing on his insights from the future
[09:10:38] * SirFinkus was just passing gas
[09:43:36] <Runaway1956> One of my sons is a dimwit - he installs Win7 Pro 32 bit on a 64 bit machine . . . .
[09:43:57] <Runaway1956> I've just looked it over, stopped a shit load of services and other nonsense
[09:44:17] <Runaway1956> When I first logged on, it took about three minutes for the screen to go active
[09:44:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Beating 'Heart on a Chip' Developed by Canadian Scientists - http://sylnt.us - <3
[09:45:10] <Runaway1956> After running the system scans, disabling services, defragging, restart for updates, it took about 45 seconds from logon screen to an active desktop
[09:46:08] <Runaway1956> It's a plot, I tell you - those Canucks are planning on taking over the world with their heart chips!
[10:13:54] * Subsentient is bored and lonely
[10:13:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:13:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2352
[10:14:01] * Subsentient looks for a good target to vomit on
[10:14:47] * Subsentient vomits a thick green slime on TheMightyBuzzard
[10:15:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> he slimed me.
[10:15:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> I feel so funky
[10:15:59] <Subsentient> Funky!
[10:16:04] * Subsentient plays the saxophone
[10:16:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually, scratch that coffee++. mine ain't ready yet.
[10:16:41] <Subsentient> I got my elderly fuzzy kitty on my bed with me nuggled up with me. She misses her mommy. Mom's still in the recovery facility.
[10:17:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> pet kitteh
[10:17:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> happy pi day
[10:18:14] <Subsentient> I often hate myself, but one thing I am proud of is my deep capacity for empathy and compassion. I'm disgusting, annoying (usually deliberately), fat, have a very poor memory, but I'm kind. I can be at peace with that.
[10:18:50] <Subsentient> When I was 12, I wanted to literally kill this mexican kid who crushed a pigeon with a boulder because he thought it was funny.
[10:19:08] <Subsentient> Beat that son of a bitch to death with the bird's corpse
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[10:20:13] <Subsentient> https://www.youtube.com
[10:20:14] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Serj Tankian "Empty Walls" (Lyrics Video) - YouTube
[10:20:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dig animals better than people myself. and yet i still eat em. this should shed light on how much i like my fellow humans.
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[10:20:57] <Subsentient> I am a species-nihilist. I value individual consciousnesses, but not biological diversity.
[10:21:16] <Subsentient> That's why me and ET would probably get along fine.
[10:21:27] <Subsentient> I wouldn't think "creature", I'd think "person"
[10:21:53] <Subsentient> I don't mourn the extinction of a species, but I mourn suffering and death of individuals.
[10:21:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, NOW it's time for that coffee++
[10:23:21] <Subsentient> A big principle of the Fourth Paradigm, which I'll be writing a book on, is "neither designed nor desirable", the idea that life's affinity for competition and death, like everything else, is not good, optimal, or even acceptable simply because it's natural.
[10:24:27] <Subsentient> "People shield themselves with 'it's natural', to avoid the intense pain of recognizing the deep and unholy abomination that life on this world has ordered itself to act as."
[10:24:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> oprimal? no. simply better than any designed system.
[10:25:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> like genetic algorithms
[10:25:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can theoretically write better but not as quickly and not guaranteed.
[10:27:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmmmm..... yeah.... that's the stuff
[10:27:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:27:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2353
[10:27:13] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I can think, off the top of my head, more efficient and less terrible ways of designing a life form that evolves on its own deliberate effort but encompasses an entire biosphere and does not require killing.
[10:27:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> theoretically more efficient and less terrible. you won't find out until practical trials.
[10:28:44] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Nature is blind and takes the easiest way in terms of energy and effort efficiency, but it doesn't necessarily choose the most humane or desirable systems, and in practice, usually does not.
[10:29:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, nature tries everything, throws it all up against the wall and sees what sticks.
[10:29:50] <Subsentient> Nature is governed by chemical laws and reactions. It will not necessarily try everything.
[10:29:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> and there's no reason it should choose the most humane anything. only humans are humane.
[10:31:03] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I suppose I won't convince you. But the brief summary of what I believe is:
[10:31:32] <Subsentient> Competition is the root of all evil in the most literal and logically verifiable sense, and is the greatest abomination ever to exist in the history of this universe.
[10:31:52] <Subsentient> Makes me think whoever wrote the universe was quite sadistic.
[10:32:09] * TheMightyBuzzard shrugs
[10:32:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> things designed without competition in mind get exterminated when they face it though.
[10:32:54] <Subsentient> Peacefully intended self defense is the answer to that.
[10:33:05] <Subsentient> yeah, and that's the great atrocity of this reality.
[10:33:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is still competition
[10:33:23] <Subsentient> THat to beat them, you must join them.
[10:33:25] <Subsentient> It's sick.
[10:33:31] <Subsentient> Not in the good sense of the word.
[10:34:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, the problem is you're thinking about the world first. i do not.
[10:34:29] <Subsentient> I am one in an endless ocean of others. My life is worth nothing compared to that.
[10:34:41] <Subsentient> My happiness is worth nothing compared to the happiness of thousands.
[10:34:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> in order, the things i care about: self and family, friends, neighbors, town, county, state, nation, world.
[10:35:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything from a lower order threatens something from a higher order, i have no qualms about destroying it.
[10:35:38] <Subsentient> I'm aware that the less you care, the happier you are. That's why I'm such a miserable person, but you know, I'd never have it any other way.
[10:36:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> also, you can't really care about anything if you don't value yourself as highly as your fellow man.
[10:36:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're no different from them, yeah? value is equal. if you don't value yourself...
[10:36:57] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Look at my nickname to decipher how much I value myself compared to others. That's literally why I have this nickname.
[10:37:23] <Subsentient> It's not self-deprecation, it's a statement of priority.
[10:38:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> genetic algorithm of the world's gonna cull ya, bro. that's not a fit outlook.
[10:38:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> damned miserable one as well.
[10:38:38] <Subsentient> My ultimate goal? Make the world a better place, and then die. That's all I want, is to die, but I will not permit it until I've left behind something of value.
[10:39:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> get yer doc to reevaluate yer meds. that ain't no way to live.
[10:39:19] <Subsentient> I hope it does. I've decided not to reproduce. That's the power of the self-aware mind, we can take evolution's pointing finger and shove it firmly up its ass.
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[10:39:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know whereof i speak here. been there, done that.
[10:39:54] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Interestingly, I don't have depression. My suicidal tendencies are a result of the knowledge and understanding I've conveyed to you in this conversation.
[10:40:13] <Subsentient> I'm easily capable of being happy given the right stimuli.
[10:40:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> depression ain't black, it's gray.
[10:41:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> it is in point of fact indistinguishable from nihilism.
[10:41:10] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I'm already on the maximum dose of Prozac, which is used to treat my OCD, not depression. Interestingly, SSRIs work a lot better for OCD than depression.
[10:41:48] <Subsentient> And if you want to see depressed and suicidal, if the meds quit working or I stop getting them, the OCD comes back full force and I literally become mentally unstable and irrational.
[10:42:03] <Subsentient> meds suppress 95% of the OCD.
[10:42:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> talk to yer doc. i'm on freakin amphetamines for my depression and it works badass.
[10:42:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> depression meds never worked at all. only made my depression more abstract; along with everything else.
[10:43:11] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: You have clinical or environmental depression?
[10:43:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> clinical, sort of
[10:43:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a symptom not a cause
[10:43:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause turned out to be fuckin adult adhd
[10:44:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> and being surrounded by idiots
[10:44:40] <Subsentient> My idea is that we're all stupid, but can rarely see our own stupidity.
[10:45:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> well we all fuck up but my ass is literally twice as far above average as average is above retarded.
[10:46:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> watching normal people interact with their world is literally painful off my meds.
[10:47:10] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Before the OCD hit, I was a happy person. Then life was a living hell, a carnival of irrational fears and undying terror. I'd wake up and cry, because I was hoping I would die in my sleep.
[10:47:22] <Subsentient> Now that the OCD is mostly gone, that's not an issue anymore.
[10:47:36] <Subsentient> but the OCD also made me quite introspective and philosophical
[10:47:46] <Subsentient> and as the saying goes, "the truth hurts".
[10:48:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> what it sounds like is you're getting the standard SSRI side effects and not medicating them.
[10:48:15] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: What are you referring to?
[10:49:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> SSRIs are a bitch unless your body actually needs them. they CAUSE depression, apathy, and suicidal tendencies.
[10:49:40] <Subsentient> I do need them, the prozac's the only thing keeping me alive.
[10:50:09] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: The reason I doubt what you're saying is I can be genuinely happy, upbeat, smiling, and then I remember what I've learned and it hurts.
[10:50:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes but you do not need them for your moods, and it's fucking them up like it does anyone else put on them who wasn't suffering from what they are made for.
[10:50:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, don't doubt. it's a listed bloody side effect of every SSRI
[10:51:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> and depression ain't constant. it comes and goes in waves.
[10:52:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.rxlist.com Report any new or worsening symptoms to your doctor, such as: mood or behavior changes, anxiety, panic attacks, trouble sleeping, or if you feel impulsive, irritable, agitated, hostile, aggressive, restless, hyperactive (mentally or physically), more depressed, or have thoughts about suicide or hurting yourself.
[10:52:20] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Side Effects of Prozac (Fluoxetine Hcl) Drug Center - RxList
[10:52:40] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: to be more specific, the biggest reason this knowledge makes me want to die is that I hate myself for knowing it, and I'm afraid I'll eventually stop giving a damn, and I'd rather be dead than be that person.
[10:52:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> see?
[10:53:05] <Subsentient> So I guess the idea is to die before I become something other than myself.
[10:53:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, i still give a damn about everything i did before. i just don't allow that to rule my life.
[10:54:11] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I still doubt it. Reason being, you remove all the sad nihilistic stuff, I'm happy. If I forget it, I'm happy.
[10:54:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm still me, just me without involuntary despair spirals that come out of nowhere.
[10:55:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> seriously man, this you right now is chemically induced. it is not you.
[10:55:40] <Subsentient> That's part of why I smoke, not only does it help get rid of the existential horror a bit, but I'm *hoping* it'll kill me.
[10:55:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's like getting maudlin while drunk.
[10:56:10] <Subsentient> https://www.youtube.com
[10:56:10] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Phantogram - When I'm Small - Lyrics - YouTube
[10:56:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, pick a bullet instead. lung cancer and/or copd are no fun.
[10:56:51] <Subsentient> THat's not my style.
[10:57:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, you feel you deserve to suffer?
[10:57:35] <Subsentient> I feel that the pain before death might purify me a bit, perhaps/
[10:58:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft
[10:58:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> pain don't purify. it distorts.
[10:58:24] <Subsentient> The problem is, the school of thought I subscribe to, because of personal experience, says that nobody is good enough, and the worst part, nobody can be.
[10:58:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> forces you to focus on it. which is why you're fucked up right now.
[10:58:41] <Subsentient> That means I am not good enough. You are not good enough. Nobody is.
[10:58:44] <Subsentient> We're corrupted.
[10:59:03] <Subsentient> And there's no fix.
[10:59:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> pick a new school of thought.
[10:59:42] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I can't. I've arrived at the conclusions I have through analysis and personal experience. I believe what I'm telling you.
[11:00:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i know you do. i believed much the same before i got my shit taken care of.
[11:00:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> except with a fuck it all bent
[11:00:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing that effects me matters but nothing that effects you does either.
[11:00:49] <Subsentient> affects*
[11:00:52] <Subsentient> grammar matters. :^)
[11:01:13] <Subsentient> See, I can still be annoying.
[11:01:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> grammar before coffee is an insane proposition
[11:01:55] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Here's something weird that made me laugh really hard. http://www.newgrounds.com
[11:01:57] <Sprinkles> ^ 03A Prank Time
[11:02:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> seriously man, you're having listed bloody side effects of a medication. talk to your doctor about it.
[11:03:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know something else weird? ever since i started taking my meds i wake up with music in my head every morning.
[11:03:58] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: But seriously, watch that video.
[11:04:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> would but he's being anti-adblock
[11:04:58] <Subsentient> http://uploads.ungrounded.net
[11:05:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> really need to get to figuring out some logic for my bot
[11:06:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> made it as far as the birds and to steal a phrase from one of my favorite tv characters, bored now.
[11:07:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i really can't watch videos. i have not the attention span.
[11:07:54] <Subsentient> hehe
[11:08:12] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: It's seriously weird.
[11:08:18] <Subsentient> And hilarious
[11:08:23] <Subsentient> especially towards the end of the video.
[11:10:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... going to have to add a counter outside the main loop for that thread, decrement it every loop if it's > 0, and fire events when it's == 1.
[11:11:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> also going to need a holding struct for the information i'm going to work from in the same place in the hierarchy as the counter
[11:12:35] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Going to be rewriting the basic networking core of NEXUS in a bit.
[11:12:45] <Subsentient> Using C++'s std::queue
[11:12:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> bah, thought you already had a working list lib
[11:13:18] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I do, but it's lacking some stuff, like queues. It's in the works.
[11:13:30] <Subsentient> In the meantime, C++'s std::queue is portable and easy enough to work with.
[11:14:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah well
[11:15:07] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Going to have a queue for incoming and outgoing messages for clients. It'll wait to send until a client responds to a ping, and if not, they are reaped.
[11:15:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine's working exactly as expected now. doubly linked list with the ability to push to or pull from either end
[11:15:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[11:15:33] <Subsentient> std::list's push_front or push_back
[11:15:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. sumpin like prolly
[11:16:02] <Subsentient> As hideous as the syntax is, I'm starting to like C++.
[11:16:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Online Lender SoFi Starts Hedge Fund to Invest in Its Own Loans - http://sylnt.us - is-this-legal
[11:16:08] * TheMightyBuzzard sighs
[11:16:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's the devil. attractive but evil. next thing you know you'll be coding java.
[11:17:18] <Subsentient> Fuck java.
[11:17:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> we don't have a pi day story or sub in the queue. wtf?!
[11:19:47] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Just wait for this year's April Fools story.
[11:20:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i don't even know if we're gonna have time to do anything to the site for 4-1
[11:20:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> two weeks left and ima be out of town for one of them.
[11:29:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube flowers on the wall
[11:29:20] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[11:32:53] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Ever read up on chirality?\
[11:36:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> never heard of it
[11:37:08] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: It's how aliens might have different 'handed' proteins
[11:37:17] <Subsentient> So their DNA might go the other direction.
[11:38:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be. no idear.
[11:39:51] <Runaway1956> thalidamide is the one real example of left handed molecules causing problems, that I know of
[11:40:22] <Runaway1956> Of course, it was only a "bad thing" if you object to deformed babies
[11:41:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i object to babies period. they're loud and smell bad.
[11:42:22] <Runaway1956> For the most part, people who keep their private parts private don't need to worry about babies
[11:42:53] <Runaway1956> making pubic parts public often results in squalling babies
[11:43:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, so not too many worries for me. plus latex for the occasions when there might be an issue.
[11:44:03] <Runaway1956> I've never heard of a latex sleeve getting pregnant either
[11:46:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus gametes administered orally tend to have a difficult time find anything productive to do.
[11:52:16] <crutchy> ~tell cmn32480 worked on update.php but fell asleep before testing. feel free to go nuts with it. night
[11:52:18] <exec> message saved
[11:54:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~g'night crutchy
[11:54:03] * exec brazenly offers my butt of an insult to crutchy
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[12:08:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, some funkiness going on there. going to have to fix it i spose.
[12:10:20] <Runaway1956> just give it to Funky Monkey - I wasn't aware that Buzzards are funky https://www.youtube.com
[12:10:21] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Brass Monkey... That Funky Monkey - YouTube
[12:10:39] <Runaway1956> Don't watch the video, just listen to - uhhhh - whatever it is that passes for tunes
[12:14:05] <Subsentient> Runaway1956: What I'd be interested in is to see what happens if you eat a cheese pizza where all chiral molecules are inverted.
[12:16:28] * TheMightyBuzzard gets his beasties groove on
[12:16:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - TEDxWellington Talk: Sequencing that Stimulates the Sensors; Author Q&A - http://sylnt.us - nanopour-is-for-really-tiny-cups-of-coffee
[12:18:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> Subsentient: I suspect the result is "you die".
[12:18:50] <Subsentient> AndyTheAbsurd: Same.
[12:20:07] <Subsentient> AndyTheAbsurd: Still, it'd be interesting to know for sure.
[12:20:17] <Subsentient> I imagine at very least, it'd be indigestible.
[12:21:07] <Runaway1956> Ditto on the "you die" bit
[12:22:13] <Runaway1956> I don't understand that stuff at all, but it seems you "might" get away with ingesting a few left-hand bits now and then, but a whole pizza filled with complex proteins? Ehhhh
[12:22:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> In smaller doses, it might have drug-like effects...but I really think that an entire slice of left-handed pizza would be right into "choking on your own vomit" overdose territory.
[12:23:03] <Subsentient> Mmm, chirally inverted vomit milkshake.
[12:25:01] * Subsentient offers TheMightyBuzzard a chirally inverted vomit milkshake
[12:25:45] <Runaway1956> I hate having my sensor stimulated . . .
[12:27:43] <Subsentient> $righthandedburrito Runaway1956
[12:27:45] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten chirally inverted burrito at Runaway1956
[12:30:52] * Runaway1956 ducks and watches the inverted burrito run up AndyTheAbsurd face
[12:31:30] <Runaway1956> Wow - shit runs downhill, but chirally inverted burritos run uphill!
[12:32:51] * Runaway1956 notices that AndyTheAbsurd is having difficulty breathing, so stands him on his head and watches the burrito run UP out of his nose
[12:41:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, i know what's happening... i'm not null terminating that string.
[12:47:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> got it
[13:44:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, how tha shit is data getting into my lists without me putting it there?
[13:51:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it's not getting there by me pushing it onto the list legitimately for certain...
[14:18:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GNU Release the Gneural Network AI Software - http://sylnt.us - you-gnever-gnow-what-they'll-come-up-with-gnext
[15:30:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> getting there...
[15:49:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ADHD: More Junk Science? - http://sylnt.us - social-pressures
[16:18:16] * Runaway1956 forgot to tell TMB that I put a siphon hose from the cloud into his lists
[16:18:44] <Runaway1956> I figure that if the NSA can suck up data, then it's probably good for us to siphon some of that data off.
[16:18:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's all good, i got it fingered out
[16:19:03] <Runaway1956> Which one?
[16:19:25] * Runaway1956 looks suspicously at TMB's fingers
[16:19:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> all of em cept where to put the null terminators on one string
[16:20:07] <Runaway1956> You didn't throw away my siphon, did you? Good siphons are convenient if you run out of gas in the middle of the night
[16:20:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> swear i needs a fscking beer after all this random weirdness
[16:21:38] * Runaway1956 tosses Buzz a Molson
[16:21:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> well alrighty then. testbot is working for everything i have him doing so far
[16:25:50] <Runaway1956> They've got incompetent doctors in the UK too - http://www.foxnews.com
[16:25:50] <Sprinkles> ^ 0322-year-old dies of rare cancer after doctors mistook disease for pregnancy | Fox News
[16:27:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> man people expect doctors to be miracle working geniuses. they ain't. they're mechanics for humans.
[16:28:17] <Runaway1956> Well, sure, they are human and make mistakes - but geeez, Louise - how long does it take to figure out that the "baby" ain't a baby?
[16:28:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> and they are now, and will always be, just as fallible as any other human. expecting perfection, even with life and death on the line, marks you as a fool.
[16:29:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> usually from diagnosis to the first ultrasound i'd expect
[16:29:41] <Runaway1956> Yeah, that's just about what I would expect - that first ultrasound is going to show something really funny about Baby.
[16:30:05] <Runaway1956> Starting with the fact that Baby isn't confined to the uterus . . .
[16:30:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> now if they didn't notice baby looked like a tumor, that's fucked up.
[16:38:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> there we go, testbot completely fixed for what he does so far.
[17:00:29] <paulej72> hello
[17:00:33] <paulej72> coffee++
[17:00:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2354
[17:20:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ask Soylent: Need Help Choosing the Right Licensing - http://sylnt.us - interesting-questions
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[17:40:59] <SirFinkus> happy pi day
[17:47:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> I already ate pi(e)!
[17:47:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> It was two slices of pizza pie.
[17:49:25] <SirFinkus> π
[17:50:29] <Runaway1956> You ate that left handed pi?
[17:52:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> well I'm not dead yet (or even having a very trippy time here at work) so I'm assuming it was right-handed.
[17:53:06] * Runaway1956 sighs in relief
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[18:11:54] <Runaway1956> The Canucks are being devious again - http://www.ctvnews.ca
[18:11:55] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Vancouver-area municipality considers adding more risk to playgrounds | CTV News ( http://www.ctvnews.ca )
[18:12:20] <Runaway1956> While the US is wimping kids down, Canadians are going to raise some kick-ass risk takers.
[18:12:34] <Runaway1956> In about 20 or 25 years, we can expect them to invade.
[18:21:05] <SirFinkus> sleep country canada?
[18:21:11] <SirFinkus> I thought WE were the sleep country
[18:23:02] <Runaway1956> Apparently, you're in the wrong province. B.C. is going to take your entire country over, before they march on us, and then Mexico.
[18:23:50] <Runaway1956> Then, they'll just rename the continent, "United States of Columbia".
[18:25:24] <Runaway1956> They may make an honorary member of Colombia, so they have a far south outpost.
[18:49:42] <Subsentient> For all those who will ask why I'm doing this stuff to NEXUS: https://github.com
[18:49:44] <Sprinkles> ^ 03Convert client list storage to use std::list instead of custom linked… · Subsentient/nexus@c42e01c · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[19:22:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Scapegoat "Patient Zero" for AIDS in America Cleared by Scientific Study - http://sylnt.us - nasty-disease
[20:40:58] <crutchy> coffee++
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[22:24:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Subgraph OS - Secure Linux Operating System for Non-Technical Users - http://sylnt.us - locking-it-down
[22:32:54] <cmn32480> ~tell crutchy I been at work all day. I'll look at it and see what we got. YOU excellent!
[22:32:56] <exec> message saved
[22:34:43] <cmn32480> coffee++
[22:34:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2356
[22:34:55] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard (since I missed youthis morning)
[22:34:57] * exec romantically inserts ciri's butthole of caulk into TheMightyBuzzard
[22:35:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeurg
[22:35:33] <cmn32480> ewwww
[22:36:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> tiiiired
[22:37:10] <cmn32480> DST Catching up w/ you?
[22:37:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just didn't nap enough today
[22:38:16] <cmn32480> i spent the day walking a customer warehouse
[22:38:22] <cmn32480> wishing I was sleeping
[22:38:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> wouldn't let you drive the forklift, eh?
[22:39:12] <cmn32480> tought to take wireless readings from the seat of a fork truck at 30mph
[22:39:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft, much quicker to. specially if you have one of them thinkgeek shirts.
[22:40:03] <cmn32480> I DO have one of those thinkgeek shirts
[22:40:29] <cmn32480> getting the data oputput from them is a pain in the ass
[22:40:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> there you go then. just hop on and burn rubber.
[22:40:38] <cmn32480> I prefer the heat mapping program
[22:40:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, you gotta type/write it down
[22:41:12] <cmn32480> no texting while driving
[22:41:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> that don't count on forklifts
[22:41:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> since yer not on public roads
[22:42:00] <cmn32480> ummmmmm
[22:42:10] <cmn32480> OSHA may have an issue with it
[22:42:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> screw osha. they're against shooting flaming mops out in the field with air cannons too.
[22:43:12] <cmn32480> yes
[22:43:14] <cmn32480> yes they are
[22:43:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> narrow minded bigots
[22:43:28] <cmn32480> pretty much
[22:43:48] <cmn32480> but I'd hate to be the idiot that ruins the 4 years of no accidents
[22:44:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing involving a flaming mop can really be said to be an accident.
[22:44:16] <cmn32480> true
[22:44:22] <cmn32480> but a runaway forklift....
[22:44:29] <cmn32480> anyway... time for dinner
[22:44:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[22:44:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima catch the second half of that nap
[22:45:00] <cmn32480> don't forget to use the right bait
[23:55:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New York Times Opinion Piece on Open Access Publishing - http://sylnt.us - rip-it-open
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