#Soylent | Logs for 2016-03-09

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[00:00:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, this is worse than Bytram could cause. only SJWs could manage to fuck up a browser this bad.
[00:01:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> fine, god damn it, i'm reading web pages with curl from now on.
[00:03:19] <takyon> that add on shit
[00:03:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> and mensa needs to stop sending me shit. i don't give a fuck about their weekly brainwave meeting. i'm busy here killing brain cells not being snooty about how speshul mine are.
[00:03:29] <takyon> had to install tampermonkey when chrome disabled them
[00:04:45] * TheMightyBuzzard looks for the unsubscribe link
[00:05:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Norway Will Spend Almost $1 Billion on New Bike Highways - http://sylnt.us - cycling-awesomeness
[00:05:32] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: if you find it, you pass the first test
[00:06:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> it wasn't easy. i ended up cheating and ^F-ing the bitch
[00:06:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> the half a bottle of wine in me might have had something to do with that though.
[00:07:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh crap, off by one error in my favor! i still have almost an hour left to finish the bottle.
[00:09:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> there are two downsides to finishing the bottle though
[00:09:13] <takyon> i just drank hard root beer mixed with rum
[00:09:23] <nick> classy
[00:09:26] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: re: mensa, I am only around 120. I tell people I'm like an old PowerMac full of porn. Not very quick, but I got a lot of data.
[00:09:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1) being pretty bloody drunk when the kids get back cause i haven't eaten anything but a couple little coffee cakes today
[00:10:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> 2) i plan on cooking when they get back and could burn myself
[00:12:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, i'd get tested again. i think you got a bum rap.
[00:12:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i figured you for 130 at least.
[00:13:47] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Nah, I scored lower a year before that. I am learned and have an extensive vocabulary, so that gives the illusion of higher mental capacity.
[00:14:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, i don't even wanna guess. that guy makes me feel dumb as shit sometimes and on a good day i kick somewhere around 155-160.
[00:14:32] <paulej72> and if you don't have a volcabulay you get to score lower on thoes damn test
[00:14:35] <paulej72> s
[00:14:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[00:14:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> so read a book, bitches
[00:15:25] <paulej72> but I make up definitions and prononciations for words I don't know
[00:15:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like em. how are a yard and a pound alike? they're both places you keep dogs.
[00:16:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, i stole that one. Alf was a funny motherfucker.
[00:16:34] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $697
[00:16:49] <paulej72> who rebooted exec
[00:17:11] * Subsentient laughs at the casuals
[00:17:13] <Subsentient> $restart
[00:17:13] <aqu4> Be right back.
[00:17:14] <aqu4> New aqu4bot instance loaded. Rebuilding list of users in channels. Please wait...
[00:17:22] <aqu4> Restart completed.
[00:18:02] <Subsentient> And that's written in C.
[00:18:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, no idear. he been doing that like randomly.
[00:18:33] <paulej72> he seemmed to be doing it mid morning est
[00:19:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> well crutchy's off to work and cmn32480 is sposed to be chillin with his lady on this trip so i gots no idear.
[00:20:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> glad i'm cooking manwiches tonight. i don't think i could hang with anything more complex right now.
[00:21:07] <paulej72> browning ground beef can be dangerous
[00:21:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed. i'm gonna grab the roomie's safety glasses for the project.
[00:21:57] * Subsentient vomits all over the room
[00:22:04] <Subsentient> Omnivores, blech.
[00:22:21] <paulej72> vegan manwiches
[00:22:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> who you callin omnivores? i'm a carnivore. anything else on my plate is garnish.
[00:23:53] * Subsentient is a rigid vegetarian, doesn't believe consuming dairy or eggs is wrong
[00:24:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> tomorrow: steak. bought as a slab of rib steaks and aged in the fridge (vacuum sealed) for about three months then chopped up into two inch thick steaks and frozen.
[00:25:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> no taters, no vegetables. steak. and if we're still hungry, more steak.
[00:26:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> or beer. yeah, beer's a possibility.
[00:27:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> appropos of nothing but i dig it: https://www.youtube.com
[00:27:48] <webscale> ^ 03Read a Book (Dirty Version) - YouTube
[00:39:21] <Subsentient> My cats finally sleeping on the same bed. Usually they want to murder each other. http://i.imgur.com
[00:39:35] <Subsentient> Gracie is the gray one, my cat. :^)
[00:39:47] <Subsentient> Other is Bew/Mama Kitty, mom's cat that's almost as old as me.
[00:45:58] <nick> same bed, but a respectable distance
[00:46:45] <Subsentient> I found my box spring next to a dumpster years ago, and my room looks like someone bombed a vending machine :^D
[00:50:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, you have a box spring? Bourgeoisie scum!
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[00:55:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956! Whaddup my hated homie?
[00:56:49] <Runaway1956> Thunderstorms are up - of course I slept through the worst of them
[00:57:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, getting some tomorrow myself
[00:58:12] <Runaway1956> All last night, I was expecting storms, but they kept postponing them, finally started about noon today
[00:58:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hey, it's bout 7. dinner cookin time. must find safety glasses. wish me luck.
[01:04:06] <takyon> blah
[01:23:03] <nick> dinner sounds dangerous for tmb if you need safety glasses
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[01:30:19] * Runaway1956 suspects that TMB has led a life of danger - kinda like https://www.youtube.com
[01:30:20] <webscale> ^ 03JOHNNY RIVERS - Secret Agent Man 1966 - YouTube
[01:31:43] <Tramtrist> nice
[01:32:01] <SoyCow3059> Hola. I screwed up and submitted a story before I finished RTFA and my submission sucks worse than usual. Is there some way I can get it killed before it is posted? https://soylentnews.org
[01:32:02] <webscale> ^ 03SN Submission by Bobs: Ontario is starting Universal Basic Income for all
[01:32:34] <nick> i can reject it if you really want
[01:33:01] <nick> are you going to resubmit it?
[01:33:21] <SoyCow3059> Sure - I will fix and resubmit. sorry for the trouble.
[01:33:54] <nick> it's gone
[01:34:03] <nick> np, saves one of us the work later ;)
[01:34:47] <SoyCow3059> Mercy buckets :)
[01:35:05] * Runaway1956 is thinking pretty seriously about this GT730 - looks like a good deal
[01:35:21] <Runaway1956> http://www.ebay.com
[01:35:22] <webscale> ^ 03Gigabyte GeForce GT 730 2GB DDR3 PCIe 2 0 x8 Low Profile Graphic Card | eBay
[01:35:40] <nick> just can't do it, can't buy an nvidia card
[01:35:51] <Runaway1956> Not for typical desktops of course - it's 2.0 x8, mostly for server type boxes
[01:36:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Smartwatches Designed for Exam Cheating - http://sylnt.us - cheating-arms-race
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[01:54:00] <nick> who submitted a youtube video....
[02:04:01] <Runaway1956> lol - submitted a youtube video? Which submission is that?
[02:04:20] <nick> https://soylentnews.org
[02:04:21] <webscale> ^ 03SN Submission by exec: Why the IT Industry sucks
[02:05:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can't do it. i can't watch a video over 10m unless it's a tv show.
[02:06:48] <Runaway1956> 22 minute time waster? Might be interesting, but I'll wait for the executive summary
[02:08:48] <nick> kw
[02:08:53] <nick> uhh
[02:08:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> 22 minutes that i could read in three
[02:09:04] <nick> out of principal, i havn't watched the video
[02:09:17] <nick> we dont have images with stories for fucks sake
[02:09:27] <nick> how can we have just a youtube video
[02:09:51] <nick> principle even, the beer is working apparently.
[02:10:01] <nick> someone better second check my editing.
[02:12:19] <nick> it's not even been well received on youtube.
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[02:25:32] <Deucalion> Wow - seems daring to run an article that mentions the KKK got us a proverbial kicking! No doubt people wanted the KKK members arrested immediately upon arrival before being allowed to say something offensive in public. Groupthink at its finest. To be entirely clear, I in no way support the KKK's views, what I do support is the concept of being free to speak your mind, no matter how nutty and out of tune that may be.
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[02:34:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, truth
[02:35:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> funny thing, i didn't even notice that article
[02:37:50] <Deucalion> I read it + comments, then aristarchus Journal... apparently we are gaining a reputation on the internetz tubes.. for ~something~, not sure I understood what. Frankly I'm surprised anyone has heard of us, let alone gaining a rep for something or other :D
[02:38:33] <nick> what, a reputation?
[02:38:35] <nick> since when?
[02:38:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[02:38:57] <webscale> ^ 03Joan Jett - Bad Reputation - YouTube
[02:39:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i thought people had to know about you to have a reputation
[02:39:38] <Deucalion> https://soylentnews.org I have no idea nick. See if you can make sense of it.
[02:39:39] <webscale> ^ 03Journal of aristarchus (2645)
[02:41:03] <Deucalion> I thought we'd always been pretty clear.... this isn't going to be an echo chamber :/
[02:41:50] <Deucalion> Or $deity forbid... top-down curated
[02:41:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> some people just can't believe we wouldn't want to silence people they disagree with.
[02:42:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> only people they disagree with though or it would be censorship
[02:43:49] <nick> that's quite the journal, think i need another beer and a cigarette for this one
[02:52:15] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, that's because they have the monopoly on being right thinking and all views that may deviate from what they believe to be right must be squashed from existence and never aired. One only has to look to history for various definitions of "they" to slot in to that particular mindset to see it's really not the way a healthy society heads.
[02:52:56] <Deucalion> Oh wait... I'll brb... time for our 2 minute hate
[02:56:48] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[02:58:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, hey, bedtime done snuck up on me. believe i'll do that.
[03:00:45] <Deucalion> The statutory time for bed is 11pm, those who depart earlier are clearly lazy and worthless. Those who are later, they are diabolic and lack self discipline. Now show me your papers and your self whipping device!
[03:02:45] <SirFinkus> I miss anything neat?
[03:03:46] <nick> Deucalion: can't say i came away with much from reading that journal, aside from 'i get where you're coming from' and i havn't even read the comments on the story that inspired the journal
[03:03:47] * Deucalion looks around room.. nothing neat here... crap all over the place... really must have a spring clean
[03:06:28] <SirFinkus> I just had a great philly cheesesteak
[03:06:50] <SirFinkus> and those are almost always dissapointing to me unless I make them
[03:07:36] <Deucalion> A steak made of cheese? No doubt that is disappointing... I expect real cow in mine :/ :P
[03:08:47] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[03:09:04] <Bytram> !uid
[03:09:04] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6151, owned by devlux
[03:09:10] <Bytram> hola
[03:09:20] * Bytram is very tired
[03:10:07] <Deucalion> hola Bytram o/ Succumb to the sleep
[03:10:51] <Bytram> dinner is just about ready...
[03:10:57] <Bytram> prolly hit the hay in about an hour
[03:12:05] <Deucalion> Apparently someone just endorsed me as an ITIL practitioner on LinkedOut.... I never knew... OK... yes, I haz the ITILz
[03:12:28] <Bytram> what *is* ITIL?
[03:12:32] <Bytram> ~g ITIL
[03:12:34] <exec> [google] https://www.axelos.com
[03:12:34] <exec> [google] https://www.axelos.com
[03:12:54] <Bytram> brb
[03:12:55] <Deucalion> It lives in a dark bag with 6 Sigma...
[03:16:12] * Bytram reads https://en.wikipedia.org
[03:16:13] <webscale> ^ 03Wiki: ITIL
[03:17:49] <Deucalion> https://en.wikipedia.org - basically an IT Service Management framework that every company claims they require of their employees but then roundly fails to implement in any coherent way or patchily in some part of the operation. A check box BS thing along with ISO accreditation. Big in government IT projects though.... the success rate on those should be perhaps some indicator as to how useful it is in practise
[03:18:26] <nick> one of those 'we say we're compliant, that means we are, it's not like anyone checks'
[03:18:30] <nick> ?
[03:19:24] <nick> only become a problem if one day, somewhere down the line, during some legal proceeding that a process didn't happen that was supposed to
[03:19:38] <Deucalion> ISO 20001 anyone? Or PCI-DSS? Your friendly £3000 / day consultant will do the checklist for you :D
[03:19:46] <nick> but then that can be blamed on a one-off incident by an employee who no longer works for the company and new procedures have been put in place since
[03:20:09] <Deucalion> employee? Don;t be daft... it was a consultant.
[03:20:38] <nick> I have done the PCI compliance stuff before, for my purposes it was fine because most was N/A
[03:20:51] <nick> but anyone who said "Yes" to all that shit, is a fucking liar
[03:21:04] <Deucalion> But having done it, were your systems or procedures any more secure?
[03:21:16] <Deucalion> If not... what;s the fucking point?
[03:21:20] <nick> that's not what it was about, it was about saying the systems and procedures were secure
[03:21:35] <Deucalion> lol exactly... SYA
[03:21:38] <Deucalion> CYA*
[03:21:41] <nick> so if there was a databreach or other thing that happened, the .gov or whoever can point to that and go "you lied about your compliance"
[03:22:35] <Bytram> how'd that work for Target and Home Depot et al?
[03:22:39] <Deucalion> Oh man, it's no wonder people don't last >20 years in this environment.... the cynical overcomes them :D
[03:22:41] <nick> PCI-DSS is basically the opportunity to say "yes, we are perfect in every way, our systems are secure beyond any politicians wildest dreams, if anything does happen, it will be completely my fault"
[03:23:19] <nick> pretty much every question made me angry, if you need PCI, then you basically can't have it because the way i read most of it
[03:23:28] <nick> if your systems are connected to the internet, or even your LAN
[03:23:29] <nick> you fail
[03:25:01] <Bytram> Hey! Now that is something... ITIL certification has... pins! https://en.wikipedia.org
[03:25:01] <webscale> ^ 03Wiki: ITIL ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[03:25:02] <nick> 40 ways of asking pretty much the same impossibly broad questions
[03:25:54] <nick> and for a small business, the consequences of not being PCI compliant? costs a few £ extra a month on your payment processing.
[03:26:11] <nick> the world keeps turning, as long as you pay someone for it.
[03:27:02] <nick> aww i want a pin!
[03:30:23] <Deucalion> Yeah - ITIL Pins... kinda like 6Sigma adopting martial arts belt colours... just another certification treadmill
[03:31:39] <nick> because we don't have enough of those
[03:33:03] <Deucalion> Problem being... ITIL Pins and 6Sigma belts on your resume will get you past the automated HR application checklist - then the resume lands on the hiring manager's desk and is immediately binned because it is essentially buzzword bingo to get that far :D Ahh.. the joys...
[03:34:12] <nick> well your problem there is going near a job that requires your correspondence to go through HR and a hiring manager ;)
[03:34:39] <Bytram> so your resume needs enough buzzwords to get past the autmated scanning whereupon the manual scanning sees the buzzwords and chucks it out?
[03:34:53] <Bytram> smart!
[03:35:20] <Deucalion> My problem here is finding a job that does not require that kind of dystopian, contradictory BS that achieves nothing.
[03:35:26] <nick> then they hire a contractor like me to just get the job done after wasting everyone else's time :p
[03:35:52] <nick> Deucalion: i know the feeling, i was there a while ago
[03:35:58] * Bytram recommends entering the buzzwords on the resume in 2pt white text on a white background. ;)
[03:36:11] <nick> i spent so much time being over or under qualified
[03:36:13] <Deucalion> All the good contractors have made out like bandits and are buying land in South America to get away from the whole thing :P
[03:36:22] <nick> hahaha
[03:36:36] <Deucalion> Well played sir, well played.
[03:36:45] <Bytram> the others got jobs patching microsoft's bugs: http://www.theregister.co.uk
[03:36:45] <webscale> ^✓ 032016: Bad USB sticks, evil webpages, booby-trapped font files still menace Windows PCs • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[03:37:09] * Bytram grins
[03:37:23] <Bytram> time to do the dishes; biab
[03:37:26] <nick> Bytram: i think i read that advice on soylentnews a while ago, as far as copying the job description into the CV but hiding it
[03:38:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Printer and Some Ice Make 3D Objects Out of Graphene - http://sylnt.us - new-processes-for-new-materials
[03:38:44] * Deucalion adjusts CV... white on white... this is more ridiculous than SEO strategies, but may be more successful.
[03:39:23] <Deucalion> OK - I'm off to be horizontal. Be well.
[03:39:39] <nick> yeah, sounds like a plan
[03:39:40] * nick hat tip
[03:39:44] <nick> take care, Deucalion
[03:44:01] <Bytram> Deucalion: sleep well!
[03:44:10] * Bytram goes to start 2nding stories
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[04:34:17] <Bytram|away> good night everyone!
[04:34:25] <Bytram|away> can't keep eyes open... heading for bed
[05:10:16] <fffd> go
[05:39:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Starts Closing Down Game Studios - http://sylnt.us - game-over
[06:23:08] <SirFinkus> ~folding~rank
[06:23:14] <SirFinkus> ~folding-rank
[06:23:16] <exec> 071931
[06:35:41] <SirFinkus> my anthro teacher showed this picture in class today
[06:35:45] <SirFinkus> I don't think she noticed
[06:36:06] <SirFinkus> http://img.dailymail.co.uk
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[06:43:58] <chromas> toxic masculinity
[06:54:55] <crutchy> ~g'day >beverage toxic masculinity
[06:54:57] <exec> added to beverages
[06:55:27] <chromas> you missed the photo
[06:55:44] <chromas> dongal elephantiasis
[06:58:47] <SirFinkus> anthro teacher showed this in class today crutchy, I don't think she noticed http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_03/elephantBARCROFT_800x564.jpg
[07:01:56] <crutchy> anyone noticed that if you drag the streetview man over the nevada test area it turns into a dangling alien spaceship?
[07:02:22] * crutchy wonders if its probably a well known easter egg that only he wasn't yet aware of :/
[07:02:24] <SirFinkus> I use apple maps
[07:03:02] <crutchy> well no wonder you ended up in seattle :p
[07:03:25] <chromas> drag the bitten apple over the nevada test area
[07:04:57] <crutchy> http://laughingsquid.com
[07:04:58] <webscale> ^ 03Google Maps Includes a UFO Easter Egg at Area 51
[07:05:23] <crutchy> they call it 'pegman'?!
[07:10:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FBI Quietly Changes its Privacy Rules for Accessing NSA Data - http://sylnt.us - minimal-scrutiny
[07:52:30] <SirFinkus> so, what are you all doing to get Vermin Supreme elected?
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[08:15:00] * SirFinkus considers his internet history
[08:15:44] <SirFinkus> rants on SN, chemistry videos, firearm videos, russian novels about assassins being executed, saudi arabia, airplane videos
[08:17:05] * SirFinkus hopes they at least let him get a good night's sleep before they raid him
[08:35:15] <FatPhil> Hmmm, still waiting for SkyNet to become self-aware... http://www.theverge.com
[08:35:15] <webscale> ^ 03Google's DeepMind defeats legendary Go player Lee Se-dol in historic victory | The Verge
[08:41:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Estonia Using Blockchain to Secure Health Records - http://sylnt.us - healthcoin
[08:57:11] <Subsentient> I think if I was a congressman, If someone tried to bribe me, I'd take the money and just not do what they want. What are they gonna do? Sue for it back?
[09:18:50] <crutchy> SirFinkus, trump supporters are doing their very best to get hillary elected
[09:19:21] <crutchy> i think the real problem is that trump seems to be the least shit candidate, which says a lot about the quality of candidates in general
[09:19:48] <crutchy> considering he's a lying greedy scumbag
[09:32:12] <Subsentient> If Trump wins, I'll know why some people think the world ends in 2017.
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[09:32:38] <crutchy_> server crap out?
[09:32:42] <crutchy_> or was it just me?
[09:32:45] <Subsentient> no, you did.
[09:32:52] <Subsentient> <crutchy> considering he's a lying greedy scumbag
[09:32:52] <Subsentient> <Subsentient> If Trump wins, I'll know why some people think the world ends in 2017.
[09:33:02] <crutchy_> hmm. freenode didn't dc
[09:33:09] <crutchy_> stoopid hexchat
[09:33:26] * Subsentient uses good old xchat
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[09:59:15] <crutchy> so much for no windows xp support
[10:00:05] <crutchy> http://support.microsoft.com
[10:00:05] <webscale> ^ 03Object moved ( https://support.microsoft.com )
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[10:43:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Let's Encrypt" Has Issued 1 Million Certificates - http://sylnt.us - billions-more-to-go
[11:19:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:19:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2331
[11:19:16] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:19:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2332
[11:19:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> wewt, palindrome
[11:25:10] <Tramtrist> im using letsencrypt
[11:25:21] <Tramtrist> good stuff
[11:25:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> how much of a pain in the ass is it to keep updated?
[11:25:38] <Tramtrist> script does it for you
[11:25:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[11:26:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> may hafta get one for dev then
[11:26:21] <Tramtrist> mailinabox has it integrated into the install now
[11:26:31] <Tramtrist> good stuff
[11:27:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> would certainly save us over getting a regular wildcard cert
[11:30:45] <Tramtrist> they have scripts for apache and ngix
[11:30:47] <Tramtrist> so
[11:30:56] <Tramtrist> pretty simple
[11:43:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds it, yeah
[12:00:48] * TheMightyBuzzard gets on moving #submit over to C
[12:01:19] <crutchy> have you been infected with gerbils and peanut butter?
[12:13:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, i might have been, haven't checked.
[12:13:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly i just know that adding LWP::UserAgent to do the post request adds 20MB to the memory footprint.
[12:14:21] <crutchy> is that a C lib or perl?
[12:14:32] <crutchy> perl i guess
[12:14:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ontario is Starting a Universal Basic Income Pilot - http://sylnt.us - ship-is-sinking
[12:14:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, perl module
[12:15:34] <crutchy> mrplow will be able to have races with aqu4 :p
[12:15:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> using libcurl.so in C i can save myself quite a chunk of ram.
[12:15:47] <crutchy> yeah makes sense
[12:16:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> specially since other stuff uses it too so i can just make use of the already loaded shared lib
[12:17:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> really not that hard given it's C code. the curl boys done good.
[12:19:16] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Hi
[12:19:39] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: You been following the EF saga?
[12:19:46] <Subsentient> The "it's over" thing?
[12:20:29] <crutchy> did ol' eth get PMT or something?
[12:20:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, yeah. him being off on vacation till june or something
[12:20:55] <Subsentient> He said he'd take a break till June and then, if the site sucks, he'd "jewpost".
[12:21:02] <Subsentient> Constantly. I just commented saying "Why wait?"
[12:21:03] <crutchy> lol
[12:21:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> no worries then. he was gonna do that anyway.
[12:21:19] <Subsentient> More people offended, more twisted panties, the better.
[12:21:24] <crutchy> what ever happened to frosty piss?
[12:21:30] <Subsentient> I'll just sit there laughing lathering my balls in peanut butter.
[12:21:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> wrong site
[12:21:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab Subsentient
[12:21:39] <Bender> Added quote 689
[12:21:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should change your sig to that.
[12:22:11] <crutchy> see that's how you end up if you keep programming C
[12:22:47] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I honestly, deeply believe the world would be a far better place if ambassadors sometimes showed up naked and the president addressed the nation after huffing helium.
[12:22:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, i ain't askeert. it's not like i'm not going to still use perl for where it really shines.
[12:23:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, prolly would
[12:23:23] <Subsentient> I am a strong advocate of "benignly deranged"
[12:23:44] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: and as for being infected with gerbils and peanut butter, you will be assimilated.
[12:23:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> or sulfur hexafluoride for the darth vader voice.
[12:24:00] <Subsentient> Xenon is better for the environment than SF6
[12:24:12] <Subsentient> (and cheaper and easier to get)
[12:24:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah but you gotta consider not all presidents are democrats.
[12:24:39] <Subsentient> lol
[12:24:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> like there's no way trump wouldn't use SF6
[12:25:01] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: YOu will wake up one day with an enormous neckbeard, 100LBs heavier, and a strong urge to socialize democratically.
[12:25:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft
[12:25:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> #include <perl.h> protects me
[12:26:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> besides, why grow a neckbeard when i can grow an awesome ZZ Top beard.
[12:26:31] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Ironically, while you are diving into C, I'm learning C++ and perl.
[12:26:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'the universe's way of balancing things.
[12:26:54] <Subsentient> For some reason I feel compelled to share my current wallpaper. http://i.imgur.com
[12:27:29] <Subsentient> Not relevant to the current conversation, but hey.
[12:27:41] <Subsentient> I often make little wallpapers like that, none of them too polished.
[12:28:50] <crutchy> my wallpaper is totally awesome: solid r58,g110,b165 :p
[12:29:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com
[12:29:47] <crutchy> noice
[12:30:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't changed it from when i was gaming the hell out of Assassin's Creed 4
[12:30:30] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[12:30:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> hard to beat a good piratey background
[12:31:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> and yes, my cpu is running fairly hot right now.
[12:32:31] <Subsentient> My cores run cool but my RAM usage and disk activity is usually high.
[12:33:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> downsizing all of the Happy Days episodes cause some chump encoded them at 1080p with black bars on the sides and 800+MB/episode
[12:33:17] <Subsentient> LOL
[12:33:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> eleven seasons
[12:34:10] <Subsentient> crutchy: Show us your desktop
[12:34:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah
[12:34:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, tits^Wdesktop or gtfo
[12:35:13] <crutchy> lol
[12:35:22] <Subsentient> I miss the old "show us your butthole" imgur joke.
[12:35:27] <crutchy> i found a kinda nice wallpaper in my pictures folder
[12:35:45] <crutchy> pretty boring though
[12:35:57] <Subsentient> Ever seen "equilibrium"?
[12:36:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> not i
[12:36:23] <crutchy> yup
[12:36:26] <crutchy> good movie
[12:36:38] <Subsentient> Yeah, I'd be fighting to protect the logic-only environment.
[12:36:45] <crutchy> hahaha
[12:36:54] <crutchy> you should work for ibm
[12:37:06] <Subsentient> Not even kidding. More I reflect on life, the more I conclude all emotion is a cancer.
[12:37:16] <Subsentient> Most pain is caused by emotion.
[12:37:28] <Subsentient> My greatest goal in life is to extinguish all pain.
[12:38:02] <Subsentient> I honestly wish there was a drug to kill off emotions.
[12:38:06] <Subsentient> I'd be much more efficient.
[12:38:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> emotion is the sole motivator for the human mind though. you aren't going to do anything if you don't desire anything.
[12:38:43] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: We do things because we seek joy and avoid pain. I don't see a problem there.
[12:38:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> well there's instinct too but that's highly unhelpful.
[12:39:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> joy's an emotion. fear of pain as well.
[12:39:06] <Subsentient> Yes.
[12:39:29] <Subsentient> More I reflect, joy is fleeting but pain is far more lasting and creates longer echoing effects in our lives.
[12:39:46] <Subsentient> You don't have Post-happy elation disorder from disneyland
[12:39:59] <Subsentient> you have PTSD from breaking down mentally in a theatre.
[12:40:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> lacking emotion. i would lay in bed until prodded with something sharp.
[12:40:29] <Subsentient> I'd seek to give all who desire it the same advantage I had, and then I could die content.
[12:40:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> porn theater or regular?
[12:40:31] <Subsentient> And die I would.
[12:40:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> contentment is an emotion.
[12:41:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why i never bought vulcans had no emotions. controlled sure but not lacking entirely.
[12:41:08] <Subsentient> I suppose the correct term is "completed"
[12:41:50] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: My medication is the only thing keeping me alive. It kills off 95% of my OCD, but without it, fear and anxiety warp all logic that manages to enter my mind, and life is a living hell.
[12:42:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> good deal. keep taking dat shiz.
[12:42:42] <Subsentient> The point I'm making is, seems like most of the errors we make are fueled by emotion.
[12:43:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine keeps me from fun ole deep, dark depression and a desire to rid the world of stupid people.
[12:43:36] <Subsentient> I honestly believe that everyone who ever has, does, or will live, is stupid, including me.
[12:43:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah, everything is fueled by emotions.
[12:43:44] <crutchy> paste websites having problems uploading my desktop :/
[12:43:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> not me. i'm fallible not stupid.
[12:44:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless compared to NCommander.
[12:44:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[12:45:57] <crutchy> oh there we go
[12:45:58] <crutchy> http://picpaste.com
[12:47:21] <Subsentient> crutchy: Hi Jared.
[12:47:56] <crutchy> ahoy :p
[12:48:22] <crutchy> i don't even remember whats in that folder lol
[12:48:28] <Subsentient> I am Ben.
[12:48:29] <Subsentient> :^)
[12:48:40] <Subsentient> Well, I actually have several IRL names
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[12:48:53] <Subsentient> Daniel, Ben, Cubbie, several last names
[12:49:01] <Subsentient> So in my internal mind, I am Subsentient.
[12:49:05] <Subsentient> SubsentientneitnesbuS
[12:49:23] <crutchy> ben is much shorter
[12:49:37] <Subsentient> Sub also works fine. :^)
[12:49:43] <crutchy> or that :)
[12:49:52] <Subsentient> I'd prefer Sub. :^)
[12:50:08] <crutchy> not many decent triple screen wallpapers
[12:50:22] <crutchy> the space one is probably the best i got unfortunately
[12:51:04] <crutchy> a lot of the time i don't have a picture
[12:51:12] <Subsentient> crutchy: So, why XP?
[12:51:22] <Subsentient> https://www.youtube.com
[12:51:23] <webscale> ^ 03Puscifer - Momma Sed HQ - YouTube
[12:51:48] <crutchy> linux doesn't have decent displaylink driver for my 3rd screen
[12:51:58] <crutchy> otherwise it would be running debian native
[12:52:17] <Subsentient> crutchy: When was the last time you tried?
[12:52:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, i have lost all respect for you because of the bottom left of that screenshot
[12:52:27] <crutchy> hmm. a while ago
[12:52:41] <crutchy> a windows taskbar?
[12:52:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> and start button, yep
[12:53:24] <crutchy> i still use delphi on windows, and xp is probably the least shit version except maybe 7
[12:53:33] <Subsentient> Win2k was the shit.
[12:53:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> <--- != "bob" btw
[12:53:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just use bob any time i can't come up with a better name
[12:53:59] <crutchy> haha
[12:54:31] <crutchy> i probably should have at least checked my desktop icons to make sure i didn't have anything stupid
[12:54:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> so it amused me greatly when Titan AE came out and he was all like "I think I'll name it Planet Bob"
[12:56:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me, i don't twitter anymore so that choqok icon can gtfo
[12:56:23] * Subsentient hates social media
[12:56:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, you just need to gain an appreciation for the fine art of trolling your enemies.
[12:57:05] <Subsentient> My only enemies are those who choose to be my enemies.
[12:57:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> there ya go
[12:57:27] <Subsentient> I troll my friends, too.
[12:57:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine are everyone who pushes stupidity for public policy.
[12:58:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah, you gotta. it's a guy thing.
[12:58:24] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, here's one for ya.. apparently all the new ghostbusters are women
[12:58:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you have testicles, you gotta give your friends shit.
[12:59:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, ya, ima just pretend it doesn't exist. like episodes I II and III
[12:59:10] <crutchy> lol
[12:59:23] <crutchy> the opening sequence from ep III was ok
[12:59:28] <crutchy> until they started talking
[13:00:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> roomie's kids will not be watching it either. they can watch the original GB as god intended.
[13:00:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean shit, might as well remake the Blues Brothers with chicks.
[13:00:36] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: What hot dogs are made of: http://i.imgur.com
[13:00:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, now i'm hungry
[13:01:04] <Tramtrist> slugs
[13:01:26] <crutchy> tastes just like chicken
[13:01:41] <crutchy> ~time
[13:01:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> long_pig++
[13:01:41] <Bender> karma - long_pig: 1
[13:01:43] <exec> Thursday, 10 March 2016 @ 12:01 am GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC
[13:01:50] <crutchy> time for bed methinks
[13:01:54] <crutchy> see ya fockers
[13:01:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, off ya fuck then
[13:02:09] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Might I suggest a giant, aromatic bowl of cheesy pussy yeast from a $5 hooker I found at Home Depot?
[13:02:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~g'night crutchy
[13:02:13] * exec prematurely writes a fanfic featuring a tinfoil hat of Khyber's AC LEDs about crutchy
[13:02:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, i'm more discerning in my hookers.
[13:02:39] <Subsentient> Don't stick your dick in cheesy.
[13:03:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> if they aren't demanding benjamins, they ain't gonna be worth it.
[13:03:51] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Perhaps some strawberry yogurt? http://i.imgur.com
[13:04:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> lactose intolerant
[13:04:08] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: good idea you had there. how about a blues brothers with transracial/pangendered misgets?
[13:04:42] <chromas> that's cherry, not strawberry
[13:04:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, nope. all cast members for a blues brothers remake must identify as attack helicopters
[13:04:58] <chromas> dude, that's just fuckin racis
[13:05:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> animist
[13:05:21] <chromas> oh now you're calling them animals. geebus man
[13:05:47] * chromas signs into the patriarchy
[13:05:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, helicopters are inanimate objects. i was calling you an animist for discriminating against them.
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[13:06:23] <chromas> I can't be wrong. YOU are MICROaggressing me
[13:07:07] * TheMightyBuzzard macroaggresses chromas
[13:07:22] <chromas> oh my gyahd
[13:07:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing micro about me
[13:07:37] <Subsentient> One of my favorite clips of all time: https://www.youtube.com
[13:07:37] <webscale> ^ 03Futurama - Morbo - Doom! - YouTube
[13:07:44] * TheMightyBuzzard slaps a mushroom tattoo on chromas's forehead
[13:08:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[13:08:02] <webscale> ^✓ 03Social Justice Warrior Anthem (South Park) [Ultimate Remix] - YouTube
[13:08:25] <chromas> I hope it's a 1up and not a buttup tattoo
[13:08:30] <chromas> or make it a tatu
[13:09:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> de plane! de plane!
[13:10:15] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: https://www.youtube.com
[13:10:16] <webscale> ^ 03South Park - You're Not Yelping - "The Yelper Special" - YouTube
[13:13:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> m'kay, think i'll get libcurl workin for me so's i can drop having to use LWP::UserAgent and HTTP::Cookies
[13:13:59] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I have some source that might be helpful, but you'll need to sign a little symbolic NDA.
[13:14:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, got plenty of examples and it looks wicked easy.
[13:15:13] <chromas> does perl not have a curl module?
[13:15:40] <chromas> someone should make a new "I'm a Mac" ad where the PC is a southpark PC BRO
[13:15:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, possibly but LWP::UserAgent is what most code is written with in perl
[13:16:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, too dated a reference. kids today millennials wouldn't get it
[13:16:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/today/today and/
[13:16:46] <exec> <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, too dated a reference. kids today and millennials wouldn't get it
[13:16:47] <chromas> the easier solution would of course be to use the curl module and write irc support into libcurl
[13:17:27] <chromas> so I bet you could still get a bunch of views and people donating money on your patreon account ;)
[13:17:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah. using libcurl in C is almost as simple as perl. it's that good a library.
[13:17:33] <chromas> it's the trendy thing to do
[13:17:55] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: libcurl is an awesome piece of software.
[13:19:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> was just going to write the time delayed part in C but as easy as this is i'm thinking just go ahead and write the whole submission process.
[13:20:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to pass the json handling off to perl though.
[13:20:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause it's just badass at json handling.
[13:23:09] <chromas> are you making a c-based perl module or doing the multi-process thing?
[13:23:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> irc client is C with a perl interpreter built in.
[13:24:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[13:28:12] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Why again are you doing the Perl part? I forgot.
[13:28:22] * Subsentient takes a shit, will read response when back
[13:28:34] <chromas> because it's kickass
[13:28:48] <chromas> and so is mixing languages
[13:29:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, cause perl kicks C's ass at text mangling.
[13:29:10] <chromas> need to get some phpython while you're at it
[13:29:36] * TheMightyBuzzard gets busy rewriting rehash in C
[13:29:55] <chromas> c-hash
[13:30:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> that there was a joke. we do far, far too much funky shit for me to even consider porting it over.
[13:30:53] <chromas> c#
[13:31:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> too many of our users are not allowed to play with sharp things
[13:32:21] <chromas> you could still say you're gonna, for april 1, then release some code and it turns out to play rick ascii
[13:33:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could just drop an autoplay <audio> tag in the site news bar as well
[13:45:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Kansas School District Prepares to Launch Its First Open Knowledge Class - http://sylnt.us - dipping-in-your-toe
[13:49:48] <paulej72> morning
[13:50:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, yo
[13:52:14] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[13:54:30] <paulej72> hey Bytram
[13:54:38] <Bytram> paulej72: hey
[13:54:43] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:54:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2333
[13:54:50] <paulej72> coffee++
[13:54:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2334
[13:54:55] <Bytram> !uid
[13:54:56] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6151, owned by devlux
[13:55:47] <Bytram> for Jan & Feb we got 64 and 61 new nicks; 15 so far thismonth
[13:56:05] <paulej72> need about liter or two of coffee intraveinous
[13:56:34] <Bytram> just a heads up that I have a wake/viewing to attend today and a funeral tomorrow. Not gonna be in my best shape for site work for the short term.
[13:56:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:56:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2335
[13:56:49] <Bytram> ugh. laundry. afk biab
[13:57:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, no worries.
[13:57:28] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: http://www.theregister.co.uk
[13:57:28] <webscale> ^ 03Sexism isn't getting better in Silicon Valley, it's getting worse • The Register
[13:58:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmmmm, sandwich
[14:00:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> in our defense, we'd be just as likely to tell cmn32480 to go make us a sammich if we thought he'd do it.
[14:00:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> or even Deucalion
[14:09:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, i'm gettin better at this C shit.
[14:10:10] <chromas> Telling a woman to go make a sandwich is sexist
[14:10:15] <Bytram> Hmmm, a story submitter makes a good point: submission topic "technology" would be a useful addition. see: https://soylentnews.org
[14:10:15] <webscale> ^ 03SN Submission by Anonymous Coward: Google's AlphaGo prevails in the first game against the Go champion
[14:10:15] <chromas> women can't make sammiches
[14:11:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure they can, just not truly great ones
[14:11:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's been a while since i told a woman to make me a sammich and had her smile and do it. time to go to subway soon.
[14:13:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, go make me a sammich
[14:13:22] <chromas> I hope you like salsa and hot sauce
[14:13:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[14:13:48] * chromas layers on the meat 'n' tomato-based condiments
[14:14:21] <chromas> "Prominent women in technology now routinely get blasted"
[14:14:26] <chromas> I think they mean fingerblaster
[14:14:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> in fact just bought a bottle of sriracha for the express purpose of puttin on sammiches.
[14:14:53] <chromas> but anyway, they're not prominemt women in tech, they're just loudmouths pushing their way in
[14:15:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was gonna read it but after the first paragraph decided it was full of shit.
[14:15:08] <chromas> it is
[14:15:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> should I still consider SourceForge to be not trustworthy? or have they cleaned up their act?
[14:18:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, they're in the process of cleaning it up last i heard. dunno if that's accomplished yet though.
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[14:22:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> well, looking at the options for Windows equivalent to sshfs on *nix hosts.... I think I've decided to stick with my "use WinSCP to manually copy files back and forth" workflow, as none of the file system extensions seem mature enough for regular use.
[14:26:46] <Runaway1956> <chromas> Telling a woman to go make a sandwich is sexist
[14:26:57] * Runaway1956 disagrees - strongly
[14:27:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> I do too
[14:27:11] <Runaway1956> It is sexist of a woman to deny her man a sandwich
[14:27:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> especially if the woman has just said "I'm hungry"
[14:27:26] <Runaway1956> Oh yeah!
[14:27:55] <chromas> sure, if you don't want it done right ;)
[14:27:56] <Runaway1956> Those sexist women take offense at anything a man does - unless and until they are horny
[14:28:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> which my wife does, regularly - and then I tell her "well, eat something, then!" (which isn't quite "go make a sandwich" but is pretty damn close.)
[14:28:24] <Runaway1956> SUDO - MAKE ME A SAMMICH!!
[14:30:06] <Runaway1956> The Raging Red is getting gnarly again - everyone's favorite liquor store in Fulton, Ar is underwater
[14:31:53] <chromas> oh no! not the booze!
[14:32:00] <chromas> If I wanted it watered down I'd go to a bar
[14:32:34] -!- nick [nick!~nick@Soylent/Staff/Editor/n1] has joined #Soylent
[14:32:34] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v nick] by Aphrodite
[14:33:06] <Runaway1956> It'll still be good to drink when the Red goes back inside it's banks.
[14:33:24] <Runaway1956> Probably have a sale as soon as they can get back in the doors.
[14:49:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... have half a mind to compile pcre into this bitch too cause damn would it be handy, if a bit bloated for my needs.
[14:52:59] * Bytram gives it another few months for TMB to have the rest of Perl included into his C code.
[14:53:02] <Bytram> ;)
[14:53:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> already have it all with the interpreter. just trying to use it less.
[14:53:58] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:16:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - MAME is Now Free and Open Source Software - http://sylnt.us - 999-credits
[15:45:28] <Runaway1956> Oh yeah . . . . The Great State of Texas passed it's 'open carry' law a few months ago.
[15:45:56] <Runaway1956> Since passing that law, there have been about 500 gun deaths . . . . . wait for it . . . . . ALL IN CHICAGO!!
[15:46:44] <Runaway1956> The Libruls and Progressivites warned us there would be mass shootings if open carry were legalized!
[15:47:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> I doubt that there have been 0 gun deaths in Texas. Still probably not as many as Chicago, though.
[15:47:29] <Runaway1956> Heh - coupla bums were blown away by the cops, I guess.
[15:55:45] <nick> as ive mentioned here before, gun control blah blah blah, i'm not for or against, i have my own perspectives but do not for a minute think that my urban london perspective translates across to the rest of the world
[15:56:20] <nick> however, i am curious about the statistics relating to murder by gun and the locations in regard to cost of living and population density
[15:57:21] <nick> taking chicago vs houston, chicago is 4x more densely populated.
[15:57:49] <nick> and i am assuming cost of living is higher as a result of that
[15:58:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> there are cost-of-living difference calculators for different areas of the US
[15:58:52] <nick> as someone who isn't welcome in the US, i dont have the inclination to actually do the work myself, it's just something i've never seen brought up in other peoples ranting on the topic
[15:59:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> "ou would need around 5,157.48$ in Chicago, IL to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 4,500.00$ in Houston, TX (assuming you rent in both cities)"
[15:59:30] <nick> and by not welcome, i mean that i've travelled all over the world, and the US is the only place i've felt like a cunt for just trying to visit
[15:59:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://www.numbeo.com
[15:59:32] <webscale> ^ 03Cost of Living Comparison Between Houston, TX, United States And Chicago, IL, United States
[16:00:18] <nick> being interrogated essentially by immigration officers, questioning and doubting everything i said
[16:00:52] <nick> even as a holder of a british passport, with lots of stamps from various countries, ongoing tickets to the other side of the world, work visas for other countries
[16:01:06] <nick> but no, everyone wants to work like a mexican in the US apparently
[16:04:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> well of course
[16:04:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> The US is the best country in the world
[16:04:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> Everyone wants to be here
[16:04:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> Legally, illegally, job, no job, doesn't matter
[16:04:49] <nick> after that experience, and other cultural phenomenon in the US, i don't feel comfortable in returning again
[16:06:12] <nick> most places ive been where corruption is even worse, the jackboots are just the mechanism used to extract a bribe, whereas in the US it felt like they were always just around the corner as an opportunity to assert authority
[16:08:04] <Runaway1956> I missed that, Nick - off the top of my head, violence, gun deaths, and crime rates go hand in hand with the terms "inner city" and "democratic administration".
[16:08:30] <nick> just couldnt resist getting partisan politics involved there
[16:08:32] <Runaway1956> If you're looking at poverty as a contributor to gun violence, then yes, poverty does contribute
[16:08:43] <Runaway1956> but it's not a driving force, in and of itself
[16:08:49] <nick> way to miss the nuance
[16:08:53] <Runaway1956> It is merely a contributor
[16:09:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> Runaway1956: "democratic administration" nationally or on a more local level?
[16:10:09] <Runaway1956> On the local level - Detroit and Chicago are two of the leading gun violence centers in the US and both have had democratic leadership for ages.
[16:10:46] <Runaway1956> New York City has it's problems, but it bounces back and forth between dem and reps, and it has a healthier atmosphere than Chicago does.
[16:10:52] <Runaway1956> And, their gun violence is lower
[16:11:33] <Runaway1956> Even with similar population density
[16:11:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> that may be entirely cultural, TBH
[16:11:48] <nick> i wasn't actually looking at poverty in direct terms, more the consequences of poverty being exacerbated in urban environments due to the density of population, the resentment and jealousy being exacerbated because being poor in chicago is less pleasant than being poor in houston
[16:11:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> New Yorkers will tell you to your face that they thinking you're a fucking asshole
[16:12:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> I don't know if Chicagoans will do that or bottle it up until it erupts in rage.
[16:12:23] <Runaway1956> Heh - that's one of the things I like about New Yorkers
[16:12:58] <Runaway1956> You can meet a guy on the street in N.Y. and trade insults and curses, then go have a beer together when your throats dry out
[16:13:21] <Runaway1956> Chicago? If someone calls me a sumbitch in Chicago, it's "fight or flight" time
[16:13:26] * AndyTheAbsurd is originally from NY (upstate, though)
[16:13:41] <Runaway1956> Well, Andy, nobody is perfect . . . .
[16:14:06] <Runaway1956> 'cept for a few of us perfect assholes
[16:14:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> LOL
[16:15:57] <nick> my main contention is when people equate gun ownership and prevalence to safety, they only do so with that very narrow metric, they don't take that line with any other factors because it doesn't suit their particular agenda, and other contributory factors to poverty being an example of that, such as people with financial security are less likely to commit violent crime, with or without a gun
[16:16:00] <Runaway1956> BTW, nick - if I were an outsider, I wouldn't want to come here either, for very much the same reasons you cite
[16:17:41] <nick> always bearing in mind i totally respect the american view point of gun ownership and think it would be an extremely negative thing culturally for those rights to be removed
[16:18:51] <Runaway1956> The one thing that terribly few people recognize, and admit, about guns is that the founding fathers put the right to bear arms in there, so that THE PEOPLE COULD DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST GOVERNMENT
[16:19:12] <nick> which is fine, but also at the same time, good luck with your AR-15 vs the predator drone.
[16:19:21] <Runaway1956> It never was about hunting, or self defense, or sport, or any of the myriad other "reasons" advanced
[16:19:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> ^ that is why the fact that they restricted full-auto weapons pisses me off
[16:19:41] <Runaway1956> There are limited predators - there are unlimited rednecks in the US
[16:19:44] <nick> the citizens lost the arms race quite decisively, and i've never seen an instance where the public has come out in support of someone protecting themselves against the state
[16:19:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> If the military can have, the citizens should be allowed to have it, too.
[16:19:53] <nick> even in more conservative 'gun rights' states
[16:20:13] <nick> because the propaganda is strong, and anyone who uses a gun against the state can be easily painted as an undesirable that had it coming
[16:20:36] <nick> so while the defending yourselves against the government is nice on paper, in reality that battle was lost decades ago
[16:20:52] <Runaway1956> The last time a large group of people defied the US government, millions died.
[16:21:12] <Runaway1956> The next time? Probably the same.
[16:21:55] <nick> takes the right type of events to lose those founding principals
[16:22:21] <Runaway1956> The right events, and a populace asleep at the wheel.
[16:22:24] <nick> while people talk about the bullshit, no one has done anything practical to get rid of the surveillance state and the patriot act provisions
[16:23:00] <nick> the freedoms removed in the last decade are just as important as the ones involving your right to bear arms, but no one has done shit about it
[16:23:17] <nick> because 9/11 was scary, and those muslims are scary, so the ends justify the means
[16:23:21] <Runaway1956> We're in about the same predicament that the UK was in several decades ago - government wanted to disarm the people, and few people gave a damn
[16:23:26] <nick> because it'll only be used against people who dont look like us
[16:23:48] * Runaway1956 would rather NOT have people who look like him around
[16:23:53] <nick> well, in the UK we're quite different, culturally we just didnt have the gun ownership in the same way
[16:24:02] <nick> Deucalion and I discussed this the other day
[16:24:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> not fond of mirrors, eh, Runaway1956?
[16:24:36] <Runaway1956> England established the right to bear arms. English people defined the difference between a free man and a slave as the right to bear arms.
[16:24:44] <nick> there's nothing to stop people getting guns in the UK really, if you want them, for legitimate or nefarious purposes, but culturally it's just not something the society is about
[16:25:24] <Runaway1956> Americans didn't write the Magna Charta or any of the laws deriving from the Magna Charta - we borrowed almost everything from the English
[16:25:25] <nick> yeah and a lot of things happened back in the day, but we don't have the same democratic/founding principles, everything in the UK is a traditional process that gets modified as necessary
[16:25:43] <nick> yeah and the magna carta is a guide that no one takes seriously because it's too broad, and would protect the criminals too
[16:25:55] <Runaway1956> Ayup - society "evolves"
[16:26:07] <nick> which is why we didn't stick with it and added hundreds of thousands of incomprehensible legalese ontop of it
[16:26:13] <nick> as i am reminded fairly regularly by my family
[16:26:19] <nick> in the UK, we never had the right to free speech
[16:26:30] <nick> we never had the right to privacy in our communications
[16:27:28] <Runaway1956> I thought it was a criminal offense in Old England to tamper with the post - am I wrong?
[16:27:37] <nick> we got used to terrorism and the threat from within from the IRA, so any freedoms implied have been long gone since before i was born, because there are always people seeking to undermine 'great britain'
[16:27:45] <nick> yeah, it's an offence for you or me to tamper with the post
[16:27:48] <nick> but not the government
[16:27:58] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhh - got it.
[16:28:14] * TheMightyBuzzard beats his head on the wall
[16:28:26] * Runaway1956 helps Buzz to beat his head on the wall
[16:28:31] * Bytram offers TheMightyBuzzard a pillow
[16:28:50] <Runaway1956> Not yet, Bytram - let him work it out first!
[16:28:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> why the shit is realloc not working?
[16:29:18] <Runaway1956> It has the day off?
[16:29:21] <Bytram> what are you trying to do with it?
[16:31:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, it is working. why is it behaving entirely differently than it does in the function directly above it is what i wanna know.
[16:32:06] <Bytram> what is it doing differently?
[16:34:17] <Runaway1956> ~ranking
[16:34:29] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
[16:34:31] <exec> 071909
[16:34:38] <Runaway1956> that's it - thank you
[16:34:38] <Bytram> Runaway1956: hth
[16:34:44] <Bytram> =)
[16:34:56] <Bytram> next update in about 1h30m
[16:35:45] <Runaway1956> I just ordered my GT730, which will double (or more) my GPU on this machine
[16:35:57] <Bytram> 53k points will get us into the 18xx's !!
[16:36:02] <Bytram> NICE!
[16:36:03] <Runaway1956> Still eyeballing a 760 for the other computer
[16:36:48] <Bytram> I've noticed that we've had a couple massive peaks between 3pm&6pm cst recently: scroll down on: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[16:36:49] <webscale> ^✓ 03Extras Page - EXTREME Overclocking Folding @ Home Stats
[16:36:51] <Runaway1956> I researched thoroughly - there is no similar card in the 800 or 900 series, that 730 is the last PCIe X8
[16:37:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> pass a char pointer into a function, need more space, foo = realloc( foo, 64 );, the pointer inside the function gets realloc'd, the pointer in main does not.
[16:37:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> exact same code worked perfectly one function above.
[16:37:45] <Bytram> hmmm
[16:37:56] <Bytram> name scoping / collision ?
[16:38:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> pointers. should point to the exact same memory location.
[16:38:31] <Bytram> hmmm
[16:38:54] <Bytram> can you print / compare the address before and after; for both cases?
[16:40:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> doing so
[16:40:57] <Runaway1956> Memory location? Don't things move around in memory sometimes?
[16:40:58] <Bytram> from the sounds of it, you are dealing with double indirection?
[16:41:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuckin weird. they've got different addresses.
[16:41:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope
[16:41:08] <Bytram> nod nod
[16:42:26] <Bytram> "If it can't be what it has to be, then it has to be what it can't be."
[16:44:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, okay. it shouldn't have been working before is the prollem.
[16:44:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> that i can fix
[16:45:30] <Subsentient> So I just had the most grand displeasure of replacing the keyboard in my Acer Aspire E5-521 laptop.
[16:46:17] <Subsentient> I had to remove the entire frame, and then unplug every ribbon cable in the machine, and then remove like 20 screws and peel off tons of static-generating sticky tape and stickers, just to replace the keyboard.
[16:46:32] <SirFinkus> 20 screws
[16:46:35] <SirFinkus> poor baby
[16:46:50] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: that's just on the inside.
[16:47:04] * Runaway1956 doesn't like working on laptops either
[16:47:20] * TheMightyBuzzard simply doesn't like laptops
[16:47:24] <Runaway1956> To much shit in to small a space, and EVERYTHING has to be JUST RIGHT
[16:47:29] <Subsentient> I elected to leave most of them out with just enough left in to keep the thing together reliably, to avoid pain should I need to work on that machine in the future.
[16:47:55] <Runaway1956> Probably not the best idea you've ever had . . .
[16:48:15] <Subsentient> I dunno, done that before, usually proves to have been a good idea.
[16:48:34] <Subsentient> Just gotta make sure it won't stress the frame or fall apart on you.
[16:48:47] <Runaway1956> Your nephew is going to kick it across the floor, and it will fall to pieces now
[16:48:49] <Subsentient> But when its got snaps and plastic clasps and stuff, the screws are redundant.
[16:49:21] <Subsentient> Runaway1956: I don't have anyone who does stuff like that, and like I said, it has enough screws secured to keep it held together fine.
[16:49:35] <Runaway1956> Coool
[16:50:06] <Subsentient> Big thing is, I was ready to shit myself worrying one of the ribbon cables would decide to stop working.
[16:50:22] <Subsentient> I had to unplug like 3 or 4 just to get the keyboard.
[16:50:53] <Subsentient> I had a scare where half the keys on the keyboard and the touchpad didn't work, so I opened it up again and reseated the cables, now everything works
[16:51:16] <Runaway1956> I ripped one in half several months ago at work - got the damned keyboard almost loose, grabbed it with the left hand, took out the last screw, and the frame I was holding wasn't actually attached to the damned keyboard
[16:51:34] <Runaway1956> keyboard went halfway to the floor, tore the ribbon in half, then continued on to the floor
[16:51:48] <Subsentient> I can hear the cursing echoing through time and space.
[16:51:58] <Runaway1956> You know it . . .
[16:52:08] <Subsentient> I hate, hate HATE working on laptops.
[16:52:14] <Subsentient> I hate it
[16:52:15] <Subsentient> *HATE* it
[16:52:45] <Runaway1956> Well, this wasn't a laptop, it was a 500 ton plastic injection machine
[16:53:06] <Subsentient> I never opened my netbook once, despite it needing more RAM and one of the speakers moved away from the hard disk, because I just KNOW it'd end up killing the little guy..
[16:53:24] <Subsentient> On my cute baby netbook now :^3
[16:53:51] <Subsentient> Man, I love this machine.
[16:54:23] <Subsentient> Main/powerful laptop is an acer aspire e5-521, this netbook is acer aspire one zg5.
[16:54:39] <Subsentient> the e5-521 is the one I had to swap the keyboard on.
[16:54:58] * Bytram has an Asus 1000HD that needs a cleaning (fan buzzes loudly) and I'm terrified if I open it, I'll break something.
[16:55:05] <Subsentient> The 'e' key was loose and the replacement key I bought didn't fit, so I just put in the extra keyboard.
[16:55:33] <Subsentient> Bytram: My advice, buy all the little doodads you will probably break prior to opening the thing.
[16:55:41] * Bytram then realizes that if I do nothing with it, it'll just gather dust and be useless.... should prolly give it a try.
[16:56:21] <Bytram> Subsentient: appreciated; what I really need is a clear space to work on so I can see/capture/retrieve all the parts =)
[16:56:43] * Runaway1956 ponders taking the laptop to some poor fool at a computer shop to get it cleaned
[16:56:58] <Subsentient> I just replaced my keyboard on the dining room table with a butter knife, a dollar store screwdriver set, and an empty Prozac bottle for screws.
[16:57:10] <Runaway1956> Some of those screws are so small, I can't even see the threads
[16:57:17] <Runaway1956> aging sucks
[16:57:32] <Subsentient> Hell, I'm 21 and *I* can't see the threads on some of them.
[16:58:40] <Runaway1956> So - how do you tell them apart? I've gotten to the point that I can't tell a 3 mm bolt from a 4 mm
[16:59:08] <Subsentient> I just force em in -- I don't work on hardware very often.
[16:59:36] <Runaway1956> Oh, my poor aching sense of propriety - force 'em in?
[16:59:46] <Bytram> let the force be with you
[16:59:46] <Runaway1956> That's like child molestation
[16:59:59] <Subsentient> Runaway1956: lol
[17:00:26] <Subsentient> I laughed hard at one imgur rape joke and I feel bad
[17:00:34] <Subsentient> "Go ahead, call the police and see who comes first"
[17:00:56] <Runaway1956> That's warped . . .
[17:01:19] <Runaway1956> Something you'd expect to hear from someone's twisted sister
[17:01:24] <Subsentient> Yes, yes it is.
[17:01:33] <Subsentient> I want to play twister with your sister.
[17:02:04] <Runaway1956> Even my youngest sister is an old hag now. Half a century ago, they were cute.
[17:02:30] <Subsentient> I've seen 60 year olds I wanted to fuck, and remember, I'm 21.
[17:03:23] <Runaway1956> Well - I can send your name to my middle sister - you like 'em tall, solid, and feisty? She's a real redhead.
[17:03:38] <Runaway1956> If you don't please her, she'll probably whip your ass
[17:03:51] <Subsentient> hahahaha
[17:04:04] <Subsentient> I'm 310LBs of neckbeard gluttony.
[17:04:12] <Subsentient> Doubt anyone would care for me. :^)
[17:04:26] <Subsentient> $burrito Subsentient
[17:04:26] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Subsentient
[17:04:28] * Subsentient eats it
[17:04:59] <Subsentient> Not to mention I'm weird as fuck.
[17:05:50] <Runaway1956> The eldest of my sisters has always liked weird - maybe i'll tell her about you
[17:06:33] <Runaway1956> She married a guy named "Fish" - now, what would you expect from a Fish?
[17:06:51] <Runaway1956> However warped your answer, he fit the bill.
[17:07:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> Hey, I knew a guy that went by "Fish" in college. And now I work with a guy whose last name actually is Fish.
[17:08:09] <Runaway1956> I suppose there are some good people with the name of Fish, but this one should have been aborted.
[17:08:47] <Runaway1956> Damn if I can remember his first name now, he's been gone for decades.
[17:09:07] <Subsentient> is it the "hmm, quirky" weird she likes or can she enjoy this kind of media: http://imgur.com http://imgur.com http://imgur.com
[17:09:08] <webscale> ^ 03Because your vomit and screams are fuel for my orgasm. - GIF on Imgur
[17:09:08] <webscale> ^ 03Drehen Sie diese mehr! - Imgur
[17:09:08] <webscale> ^ 03That's a big piggy - Meme on Imgur
[17:09:17] <Subsentient> Runaway1956:
[17:09:42] * Runaway1956 isn't even going to look
[17:09:59] <Subsentient> Runaway1956: oh cmon it's not that bad
[17:10:20] * Runaway1956 has little idea what actually turns little sister on
[17:10:32] * Runaway1956 only knows that he has never liked a guy she was with
[17:10:47] <Runaway1956> The redhead actually likes people that I can like
[17:13:19] <Subsentient> either way, I gotta get some rest
[17:13:30] <Subsentient> been up far too long.
[17:13:35] <Subsentient> gn :^)
[17:13:36] <Runaway1956> Later - I'm starting to think that was as well
[17:13:51] <Runaway1956> s that WAY as well
[17:37:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> well fuck, now that i figured out how to do something i've forgotten entirely why i wanted to do it.
[17:38:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, right.
[17:45:04] <Bytram> http://www.866ourvote.org
[17:45:05] <webscale> ^ 03As Polls Close on Super Tuesday, Election Protection Received Over 2,000 Calls| Press Releases| Election Protection ( http://www.866ourvote.org )
[18:17:15] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
[18:17:18] <exec> 071904
[18:19:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rats vs. Computers vs. Cyborg Rats - http://sylnt.us - automated-lab-rat-races
[18:34:55] <Runaway1956> http://www.huffingtonpost.com
[18:34:56] <webscale> ^ 03Death Valley Is Having A Rare And Magical 'Super Bloom'
[18:35:10] <Runaway1956> Some cool pics there -
[18:35:36] <Runaway1956> Ages ago, I took a number of pics in Alaska, of little dainty flowers blooming on the tundra
[18:35:41] <Runaway1956> Wish i could find those
[18:41:23] <Bytram> ~weather death valley
[18:41:25] <exec> 10Death Valley - currently 71°F, sunny, wind NE at 9 mph, humidity 23% - Wednesday mostly sunny (52°F:83°F), Thursday sunny (59°F:89°F), Friday partly cloudy (52°F:86°F), Saturday sunny (51°F:79°F)
[18:49:13] <Runaway1956> http://edition.cnn.com
[18:49:14] <webscale> ^ 03J.K. Rowling story is controversial - CNN.com
[18:49:25] <Runaway1956> Burn her at the stake
[18:49:58] <Runaway1956> Navajo writer Brian Young added, "My ancestors didn't survive colonization so you could use our culture as a convenient prop."
[18:53:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956: s/added.*/is a whiny bitch/
[18:53:24] <exec> <TheMightyBuzzard> <Runaway1956> Navajo writer Brian Young is a whiny bitch
[18:53:58] <Runaway1956> Heh . . .
[19:11:28] <nick> whiny bitches everywhere
[19:40:33] <Runaway1956> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com
[19:40:34] <webscale> ^ 03Hemp shielding Ellora caves from decay for 1,500 years: Study - Times of India
[19:50:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Company to Introduce 'Period Policy' for Female Staff - http://sylnt.us - that-time-of-the-month
[19:50:35] <Bytram> http://feeds.wired.com
[19:50:36] <webscale> ^ 03Go Grandmaster Says He Can Still Beat Google?s AI | WIRED ( http://www.wired.com )
[20:01:33] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[20:03:01] <Bytram|away> ~folding-rank
[20:03:03] <exec> 071904
[20:03:19] <Bytram|away> oh. next update is not for another hour.
[20:03:34] <Bytram|away> nap time.
[20:48:36] <nick> https://www.youtube.com
[20:48:37] <webscale> ^ 03The Whiskey Avengers - 5th O' Whiskey - YouTube
[20:58:38] <Gravis_> much better: https://www.youtube.com
[20:58:39] <webscale> ^ 03"REDNECK AVENGERS: TULSA NIGHTS" — A Bad Lip Reading of Marvel's The Avengers - YouTube
[21:02:56] Gravis_ is now known as Gravis
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