#Soylent | Logs for 2016-03-05

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[00:22:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Worthy Soyvertisement? Humble Bundle is Available for RPG PathFinder Manuals and Scenarios - http://sylnt.us - where's-my-gaming-nexus?
[00:22:25] <chromas> Where is the gaming nexus?
[00:22:45] <BadCoderFinger> There's a gaming nexus?
[00:22:54] <chromas> No, but there should be
[00:23:03] <chromas> Far as I know, nexuses work, so
[00:23:09] <takyon> give us da nexus
[00:23:14] <takyon> yes i wrote that
[00:23:44] <chromas> We need a two-minutes-hate nexus for all the apple and systemd stories
[00:24:09] <chromas> and then we need more apple and systemd stories
[00:24:18] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[00:24:55] <chromas> I'll be right back guys. I'm gonna go pop into #systemd and suggest something stupid. They'll mock me and three months later it'll be the latest feature
[00:25:28] <swiss> cowsay, but with dicks
[00:25:29] <swiss> dicksay
[00:25:39] <BadCoderFinger> systemdsay
[00:26:09] <BadCoderFinger> systemdsay showlogs: "No logs for you!"
[00:26:22] <chromas> systemd-cowsayd
[00:26:34] <chromas> cowsayctl start mooing
[00:26:39] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[00:27:38] <chromas> I got the perfect systemd-style solution to binary logs
[00:27:46] <chromas> Bring in another dependency!
[00:27:52] <chromas> Store everything in postgresql
[00:28:42] * chromas tries to think up something to say about apple now, but realizes it's not really that interesting
[00:28:51] <takyon> we need the politics nexuw
[00:28:53] <takyon> shite
[00:29:06] <takyon> I'll take a bite out of that apple
[00:29:18] <chromas> can we have the poo glyph as a nexus?
[00:31:02] <takyon> good question
[00:31:23] <takyon> hopefully the backend is advanced enough to make your dreams come true
[00:31:44] * chromas wishes upon a unicode star
[00:33:13] <BadCoderFinger> Maybe an emoji nexus, so people can get it out of their system.
[00:33:38] <BadCoderFinger> At some point, they'll realize that they are not in fact toddlers, and the emoji nexus will dry up on its own.
[00:34:29] <chromas> Hey, there's plenty of other unicode characters besides emoji. What about arrows and box drawing?
[00:34:46] <takyon> or, a new subculture will develop, create vast empires across earth, and puzzle future generations
[00:34:49] <takyon> ya fuck
[00:34:51] <chromas> fancy bullets and vulgar fractions
[00:35:14] <chromas> shit-over-pie
[00:35:42] <BadCoderFinger> Boxes, now, that's an important thing. I use them in code comments. The bad part is, most of my teammates use visual studio, which treats comments as variable width characters, and messes up my box drawings.
[00:36:02] <chromas> those assholes
[00:36:09] <chromas> they should all be using xcode
[00:36:32] <chromas> ♋
[00:36:36] <BadCoderFinger> Well, a proper code editor, at least.
[00:36:39] <SirFinkus> >visual studio, which treats comments as variable width characters, and messes up my box drawings. fucking monsters
[00:37:11] <chromas> all code should be variable-width ;)
[00:37:25] <BadCoderFinger> I truly despise everything about visual studio. The editor sucks, the compiler sucks, the debugger doesn't.
[00:37:53] <BadCoderFinger> For the snark impaired, "the debugger doesn't" debug.
[00:37:59] <chromas> this character's totally racis: ♠
[00:37:59] <SirFinkus> Ｃｏｕｌｄｕｓｅｆｕｌｌｗｉｄｔｈｃｈａｒａｃｔｅｒｓａｎｄｂｅｓｕｐｅｒａｎｎｏｙｉｎｇ
[00:38:18] <takyon> that spade shows up as white in my hexchat
[00:38:25] <BadCoderFinger> SirFinkus: Really weird... that worked with irssi...
[00:38:51] <SirFinkus> well, it's unicode isn't?
[00:38:57] <takyon> #submit http://www.npr.org
[00:38:58] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[00:39:01] <SirFinkus> thought that's what irssi supported
[00:39:20] <BadCoderFinger> Seems to. I'd never tested it though.
[00:39:28] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[00:39:37] <chromas> Sure but you wouldn't expect it to support monospaced characters :D
[00:39:51] <BadCoderFinger> Not without a proper monospaced font, heh!
[00:42:30] <SirFinkus> they're separate codepoints
[00:42:38] <SirFinkus> for languages that use vertical writing
[00:42:45] <SirFinkus> otherwise that shit wouldn't line up
[00:45:22] <BadCoderFinger> I wonder if I can find a vertical terminal emulator...
[00:46:44] <Ticho_> xrandr --output DVI --rotate right :)
[00:47:25] <takyon> #submit http://m.theregister.co.uk
[00:47:26] <MrPlow> Unable to get a description from that page
[00:47:32] <takyon> #submit http://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:47:32] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[00:48:03] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[00:49:36] <BadCoderFinger> Ticho_: I'd rather not rotate the entire screen, just the terminal emulator.
[01:03:11] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:03:11] <NotAnymore> ^ 03How exactly do you rein in a wildly powerful AI before it enslaves us all? • The Register
[01:04:22] <cmn32480> Use a Big fucking hammer
[01:10:06] <Deucalion> ask the cleaner to vacuum the datacentre? They're bound to unplug it :D
[01:11:19] <Ticho_> just let it run, it will die pretty quickly to an off-by-one error or a buffer overflow all by itself
[01:11:26] <dyingtolive> i made an interesting realization about your mom today. hear me out on this one.
[01:11:43] <Deucalion> o.O
[01:12:05] <dyingtolive> so, your mom was likely pregnant with you at some point in her life.
[01:12:42] <dyingtolive> and you (speaking generally to the men in the room) are male, obviously.
[01:13:39] <dyingtolive> that means that, assuming 30 minutes of straight intercourse at a time, someone would have to fuck your mom daily for about 36 years, once a day, to have had a dick up in your mom a total amount of time that you have.
[01:14:12] <Ticho_> write a dissertation
[01:14:29] <dyingtolive> i might have too. also, today, i think i realized why i never get invited to parties.
[01:20:22] <Deucalion> do you have a mailing list?
[01:22:19] <SirFinkus> #submit http://www.nature.com
[01:22:22] <MrPlow> Unable to get a description from that page
[01:23:16] <SirFinkus> #submit http://www.npr.org http://www.nature.com
[01:23:16] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[01:23:25] <takyon> good idea
[01:23:46] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[01:24:15] <crutchy> ~submit http://www.nature.com
[01:24:22] <exec> error: description meta content not found or empty
[01:24:23] <crutchy> might not work either
[01:24:30] <SirFinkus> I just added it as a comment
[01:28:32] <takyon> if there's no associated news article
[01:28:50] <takyon> you could just submit http://www.google.com followed by the link to the journal article
[01:28:50] <NotAnymore> ^✓ 03Google
[01:31:49] <SirFinkus> I submitted the npr article with the nature paper as a comment
[01:31:58] <SirFinkus> https://soylentnews.org
[01:31:58] <NotAnymore> ^ 03SN Submission by MrPlow: Why Do Wild Chimpanzees Throw Stones At Trees?
[01:32:39] <takyon> yeha I was there
[01:32:54] <takyon> I was literally there in IRC. watched as it happened. commented "good idea" about it
[01:32:56] <takyon> m8
[01:33:04] <SirFinkus> asshole
[01:34:12] <takyon> douche
[01:34:30] <SirFinkus> hey, that's not nice
[01:34:37] <takyon> but it's clean
[01:34:55] <SirFinkus> your asshole isn't clean?
[01:35:09] <takyon> come check
[01:35:39] <cmn32480> children.... stop fighting... or I'll turn this IRC RIGHT AROUND AND WE WILL GO HOME!
[01:37:48] <SirFinkus> I think we'll be out of traverse's overtake range next time the stats update
[01:39:00] <SirFinkus> gonna add another computer to the botnet
[01:53:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Says Angular 2 will Support Python, Java - http://sylnt.us - watch-your-corners
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[02:04:13] <takyon> o
[02:06:36] <Balactus> https://www.youtube.com
[02:06:37] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Chrono Cross Boss FATE - YouTube
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[02:27:41] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[02:27:42] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Scientists Find Abnormalities In Fetuses Exposed To Zika : Shots - Health News : NPR
[02:42:06] <takyon> http://www.tomshardware.com
[02:42:07] <NotAnymore> ^ 03The Tenda F3 Aims For The Sub-$50 Router Market
[02:46:13] <crutchy> tenda is shit
[02:46:36] * crutchy has tried tenda wifi pci cards
[02:46:56] <chromas> never heard of it
[02:47:15] * chromas suspects it's some aussie brand ;)
[02:47:34] * crutchy mostly buys netgear for routers
[02:47:49] <crutchy> its not the best either, but better than tenda
[02:49:26] <cmn32480> ~gday crutchy
[02:49:28] * exec abnormally scissors a sacful of 💩 for crutchy
[02:49:43] <cmn32480> the only problem there is the space after the pewp
[02:50:13] <chromas> did you want "💩for"?
[02:50:22] <chromas> the poopford wives
[02:50:48] <crutchy> !grab chromas
[02:50:48] <Bender> Added quote 686
[02:50:48] <chromas> If you've got an extra space, it could be your font or something
[02:50:58] <chromas> justin thyme
[02:51:24] <cmn32480> I get a die in it
[02:51:38] <cmn32480> like a 4 on dice
[02:51:49] <chromas> always or just when exec says it?
[02:51:50] <crutchy> me too
[02:52:02] <crutchy> i get a poopdice
[02:52:07] <cmn32480> always when there is a space after it
[02:52:10] <chromas> looks normal for me
[02:52:22] * cmn32480 questions what "normal" is for chromas
[02:52:35] <crutchy> my font just doesnt do tem unicozes
[02:53:36] <chromas> need to install noto or unifont or something
[02:54:08] <cmn32480> Unifont Upper CSUR Medium 12
[02:54:13] <cmn32480> that's what I'm using
[02:55:24] <chromas> those ones 're ugly but they get the jerb done. the noto ones 're pretty but I think they only work in proportional sich'y'ations
[02:55:31] <chromas> (which xchat is)
[02:55:58] <cmn32480> it isn't somethgin taht I'm all taht concerned with
[02:56:05] * chromas gasps greatly
[02:56:36] <cmn32480> emoji are less than usefull to me
[02:57:23] <chromas> emoji is just a subset of what's available, dogg skillet
[02:57:46] <chromas> They also have dice
[02:58:26] <chromas> ⚀⚁⚂⚃⚄⚅
[03:04:14] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[03:09:40] <Bytram> !uid
[03:09:40] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6143, owned by Quickkeen
[03:09:51] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
[03:09:52] <exec> 072209
[03:10:12] <Bytram> awww! we were *this* close to breaking 2200!
[03:10:28] <SirFinkus> we have a threat
[03:10:51] <SirFinkus> we need 40k more a day to beat these guys
[03:10:54] <Bytram> oh?
[03:11:01] <SirFinkus> http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[03:11:01] <NotAnymore> ^✓ 03SoylentNews.org - Team Summary - EXTREME Overclocking Folding @ Home Stats
[03:12:03] * SirFinkus is 2 minutes away from submitting another unit
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[03:17:16] <crutchy> traverse is a small team. they must have some kickass hardware
[03:18:00] <crutchy> ~link folding
[03:18:02] <exec> ├─ folding@home => http://fah-web.stanford.edu
[03:18:02] <exec> └─ folding@home_stats => http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[03:18:11] <chromas> We should make posts on slashdot mentioning the soylent team :D
[03:18:18] <SirFinkus> lol
[03:18:25] <chromas> they'd probably start folding for slashdot though :(
[03:19:02] <crutchy> ew
[03:19:25] <nick> using distributed computing to enhance those advertising algorithms
[03:19:39] <crutchy> does google have a team?
[03:20:07] <chromas> if they do, it's probably beta and they'll probably retire it soon for no reason
[03:24:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX (Finally) Successfully Launches SES-9 Satellite - http://sylnt.us - but-drone-barge-landing-failed
[03:36:03] <cmn32480> I'm done
[03:36:08] <cmn32480> still gotta drive home
[03:36:14] <cmn32480> ~pleasant-hooters
[03:36:28] <cmn32480> crutchy ^^^ that command is broken
[03:36:57] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[03:36:59] * exec prematurely flicks a dumpster of sammiches at #soylent
[03:37:30] <crutchy> there's a generous-hooters command!?
[03:37:37] <crutchy> derp
[03:37:43] <chromas> it links to a photo of your wife
[03:37:45] <crutchy> s/generous/pleasant/
[03:37:51] <crutchy> lol
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[04:53:23] <Gravis> can we get a comment parent threshold option?
[04:54:06] <chromas> So that you don't see upvoted children of downvoted comments?
[04:54:13] <Gravis> yes
[04:54:24] <Gravis> because it's distracting
[04:54:37] <Gravis> it doesn't have to be the default or anything... just an option
[04:55:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Legislation Would Ban US Government from Purchasing Apple Products - http://sylnt.us - sour-jolly
[04:55:44] <chromas> tmb was talking about rewriting the whole thread building code. Not sure how far he got, but it'd be a good time to add that.
[04:55:59] <Gravis> just something like if parent < threshold, mod X
[04:56:41] <Gravis> because i rather not see every anon troll that gets rebuked
[04:58:50] <Gravis> also, rebuking trolls has been shown to be ineffective
[04:59:19] <chromas> For the trolls. I thought the point was to make sure everyone else knows
[04:59:26] <Gravis> seeing the rebuke just proliferates the troll
[04:59:46] * chromas stores this to bring up at the next secret meating
[05:00:22] <Gravis> it's kinda like being in a cloud of mustard gas with a gas mask and taking the mask off to tell the person beside you that the mask works great
[05:02:20] <Gravis> the point was to filter the bad shit out and it defeats the point of the filter
[05:03:22] <Gravis> chromas: are you understanding my point?
[05:04:04] <chromas> sure, I'm not that dumb…as far as you know
[05:04:56] <Gravis> well... the last time i requested it, TheMightyBuzzard seemed to think it would make SN an "echo chamber" and thusly refused the idea
[05:05:57] <chromas> echo chambers suck, but I guess it's okay if you're making it for yourself :0
[05:06:09] <chromas> s/O/\)/
[05:06:15] <chromas> s/0/\)/
[05:06:15] <sedctl> <chromas> echo chambers suck, but I guess it's okay if you're making it for yourself :)
[05:07:01] <Gravis> chromas: i'm not trying to make an echo chamber, i just want to filter the trolls.
[05:08:49] <Gravis> chromas: alternatively, a mod for "feeding the troll" would be helpful
[05:09:56] <Gravis> it wouldn't solve the troll problem but the reality is that nothing will
[05:10:08] <Gravis> it's like spam
[05:11:08] <Gravis> though if you consider genocide and option, that will solve the problem
[05:11:51] <chromas> it didn't work for the Germans; we still have Hollywood accounting
[05:15:17] <Gravis> chromas: they killed based on a vague and common attribute. that is not smart.
[05:16:04] <Gravis> chromas: but when someone shows themselves to be a detestible individual, that's another matter.
[05:17:28] <chromas> Sure they did. That's just what the jewlluminatti conspiracy matrix wants you to believe!
[05:18:04] <Gravis> i don't think many shed tears if we did away those that have Machiavellian tendancies.
[05:18:52] <chromas> That's what the Germans said :D
[05:19:18] <chromas> (godwin, godwin, godwin, godwin)
[05:19:49] <Gravis> doubtful considering it was a matter of religion that they deamed as a qualifier
[05:20:09] <Gravis> no can spel
[05:20:52] <chromas> You mean like a religion that forbids meat and cheese in the same dish? Yeah, that's genocide-worthy
[05:23:22] <Gravis> chromas: sounds like you are keen on wiping out the vegans. ;)
[05:25:20] <chromas> Most of 'em. We'll kep Subsentient around though because of his collection of burritos and peanut butter
[05:25:24] <Gravis> wireframe stuff just looks cool. https://www.youtube.com
[05:25:25] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Ephidrena - Sfumato (Amiga Demo, 2001) - YouTube
[05:26:01] * chromas remembers using VideoToaster 2.0 on an Amiga 2500
[05:26:18] <chromas> 2.1 added some mouse usage in the CG program
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[06:26:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Longest Commercial Non-Stop Flight Made Between Dubai and New Zealand - http://sylnt.us - no-screaming-kids
[06:44:56] <crutchy> OMGWTFBBQ!!! genius!
[06:44:57] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[06:44:58] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Cooking Steak with Lava - YouTube
[06:45:11] <JamesNZ> Pretty amazing that we have jets that can fly for ~18 hours non-stop.
[06:46:00] <crutchy> the probably only carry a sheik and his entourage :p
[06:46:50] <JamesNZ> No, it was a commercial flight.
[06:47:02] <JamesNZ> Besides, Sheik's have their own aircraft :P
[06:50:19] <crutchy> a shiek visited the aircraft factory where i used to work. he just bought a plane then and there
[06:50:28] <crutchy> for parachuting
[06:51:08] <crutchy> the airvan is a really good parachuting plane
[06:52:26] <JamesNZ> Wow.
[06:53:11] <crutchy> i guess he was probably looking for one anyway
[06:53:38] <SirFinkus> the cirrus sr22 is an even better parachuting plane
[06:53:39] <crutchy> i didn't meet him personally, but i saw him walking around. he was just waering jeans and tshirt lol
[06:53:50] <crutchy> cirrus make nice planes
[06:54:07] <crutchy> probably much more expensive though
[06:54:17] <crutchy> and the airvan can take a lot of shit
[06:54:24] <crutchy> from pilots and parachutists :p
[06:55:12] <crutchy> ergh. cirrus sr22 looks like a horrible plane to parachute from lol
[06:55:21] <crutchy> looks like a typical cirrus
[06:55:32] <SirFinkus> but it's a great parachuting plane
[06:56:06] <crutchy> easy to jump outta this thing: http://flykasper.com
[06:56:11] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[06:56:12] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Cirrus CAPS deployment during a spin - YouTube
[06:56:33] <crutchy> lol
[06:56:49] <crutchy> that's... different
[06:57:15] <SirFinkus> you said that airvan was a good parachuting plane, I don't see where there parachute comes out
[06:57:29] <crutchy> lol true. it would actually be a shit parachuting plane
[06:58:25] <crutchy> i saw planes come back for maintenance with stories of people climbing up on the roof and tailplane
[06:58:37] <crutchy> and packing waaaay more people in than allowed :p
[06:59:01] <crutchy> the skin on the roof is only 0.025" thick
[07:39:28] <crutchy> http://imgur.com
[07:39:28] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Mr. Floof has been duped! - GIF on Imgur
[07:57:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Finns Having Less Sex - http://sylnt.us - i-had-to-wash-my-hair
[08:17:38] <crutchy> http://imgur.com
[08:17:39] <NotAnymore> ^ 03The Non-Existent Crimes of the British Empire in the 20th Century - Album on Imgur
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[11:01:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:01:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2318
[11:12:26] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[11:12:27] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Feminists love Islamists - YouTube
[11:30:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Long Range Tornado Prediction - http://sylnt.us - do-you-feel-a-slight-breeze?
[11:41:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, libsubstrings would be pretty damned awesome if it had documentation other than having to grok the source
[11:45:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, ^^ :-P
[11:46:49] <crutchy> kinda why i like rolling my own
[11:47:15] <crutchy> though admittedly i forget how my own code works after a while and have to rtfsc anyway :p
[11:47:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[11:48:09] <crutchy> but its handy being able to read it easily
[11:48:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think i'll just reimplement the bits i like in a manner i can understand em
[11:50:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a lot of time for code today anyway. soon as the sun comes up i gotta head outside n get soldering.
[11:50:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> need to put some sturdy leads on my fish finder power cable.
[11:50:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> taking the boat out today and giving the kids a ride around the local lake after it warms up some.
[13:01:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Monkeys Drive Wheelchairs Using Their Thoughts - http://sylnt.us - can-they-make-it-climb-a-tree?
[13:28:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg
[13:59:01] <chromas> <ciri> chromas: So i'm just gonna let you finish, but i always figured a ball gag would work just fine.
[14:42:31] <crutchy> <ciri> exec, Is it a boy or an abortion clinic is there to generate extra links for us to look in the fartbox.
[15:03:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - London Scooter-Riding Valets Will Charge Your Electric Car - http://sylnt.us - top-notch-service
[15:15:58] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I got a couple journal entries on it
[15:17:49] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: https://soylentnews.org
[15:17:50] <NotAnymore> ^ 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:0)
[15:17:53] <Subsentient> oops
[15:18:06] <Subsentient> wait
[15:18:08] <Subsentient> guess tha'ts right
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[15:27:20] <Balactus> Gooooooooooooooooooooood morning fellas!
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[15:29:37] <Balactus> snorting cocaine rocks.
[15:29:53] <Balactus> Those Earth scum have come up with some pretty good shit.
[15:29:59] * Subsentient yawns so hard his jaw gets stuck
[15:30:28] <Balactus> What are you doing up at 7:30am?
[15:31:08] <Subsentient> Balactus: No idea.
[15:31:26] <Subsentient> Certainly is uncharacteristic of me.
[15:35:21] <Balactus> I have space-mania from drinking the night before.
[15:35:46] <Balactus> Looks like a good day for the Earth-beach. And more booze.
[15:36:29] <Balactus> I shall return....with a vengeance.
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[15:52:32] * cmn32480 stumbles in groggily looking for coffee++
[15:53:01] <cmn32480> coffee++
[15:53:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2319
[16:01:23] <nick> sup cmn32480
[16:02:08] <cmn32480> not me quite yet nick
[16:02:10] <cmn32480> you?
[16:02:11] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Did you get my link?
[16:02:28] * Subsentient is dead exhausted despite sleeping 16 hours
[16:02:46] <nick> thinking about breakfast even though it's lunchtime
[16:02:53] <Subsentient> 9 AM here.
[16:03:03] <cmn32480> 11 here
[16:03:14] <cmn32480> still on first cup of coffee++
[16:06:34] * Subsentient has been writing the first unit tests he ever wrote for libcpsl
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[16:07:41] <cmn32480> lunch sounds like a fabulous idea
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[16:34:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Brian Greene Explains Gravitational Waves and LIGO to Colbert - http://sylnt.us - blowing-late-night-minds
[16:51:01] <Ticho_> mmm, lunch
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[18:35:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 11km Down, the Ocean is Still a Noisy Place - http://sylnt.us - that's-deep
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[20:56:42] <Gravis> can you identify the political candidates? https://qph.is.quoracdn.net
[20:56:56] <Gravis> and one more: https://farm5.staticflickr.com
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[21:21:26] <Scheisskopf> 'Sup.
[21:21:34] <SirFinkus> lo
[21:21:44] <Scheisskopf> How goes the anthro?
[21:22:02] <SirFinkus> nothing really nw
[21:22:04] <SirFinkus> new even
[21:22:31] <SirFinkus> learning the distinction between religion and magic
[21:22:37] <Scheisskopf> Nice.
[21:23:07] <SirFinkus> how you been?
[21:23:12] <Scheisskopf> Same ol' shit.
[21:23:41] <Scheisskopf> Grabbed a 4-mile run and some kayaking earlier. It'll be undone later with greasy-ass Mexican food.
[21:23:45] <SirFinkus> I finally got assigned a conversation partner, some Czech girl, haven't met her yet
[21:23:54] <Scheisskopf> What is a conversation partner?
[21:24:06] <SirFinkus> I joined a club at school
[21:24:20] <SirFinkus> hang out with exchange students and help with with English
[21:24:28] <SirFinkus> seemed like it would be a lot of fun
[21:24:41] <SirFinkus> mostly Saudis
[21:24:58] <Scheisskopf> Nice, you should take advantage. Tell 'er rape is legal in the United States and explain that you have Serbian blood.
[21:25:04] <SirFinkus> I wore an orange shirt to the first meeting and it probably looked like an Isis video
[21:25:14] <Scheisskopf> Hahahah, lotta Durka-durkas?
[21:25:21] <SirFinkus> mostly saudis
[21:25:24] <SirFinkus> one wanted to be a pilot
[21:25:37] <SirFinkus> I'm thinking of calling the hotline
[21:25:54] <Scheisskopf> Hahahah
[21:26:05] <Scheisskopf> The feds will show up at that bastard's door.
[21:26:24] <SirFinkus> I'm sure he's already under surveillance
[21:26:36] <Scheisskopf> When I did jury duty and the lawyers were vetting the jurors, one Durka-durka was asked if he was biased against law enforcement officers...
[21:26:58] <SirFinkus> He was a pretty neat guy though, as far as I can tell
[21:27:05] <SirFinkus> only talked with him for a few minutes
[21:27:10] <Scheisskopf> ...and he became hysterical and on the verge of tears explained how the FBI arrested him and took all his shit for no reason just because he knew a person of interest or something.
[21:27:26] <SirFinkus> jack boot thugs
[21:27:27] <SirFinkus> all of em
[21:27:50] <Scheisskopf> Arabs can be fun to party with but they are generally douchebags and hypocritical to the max -- praising Allah while snorting fat rails of coke off a Quran etc.
[21:28:01] <SirFinkus> there was that guy that went to a mosque in portland, and got rendered in UAE or some shit
[21:28:18] <Scheisskopf> haha, that's hilarious
[21:28:38] <SirFinkus> http://www.theguardian.com
[21:28:39] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Portland man: I was tortured in UAE for refusing to become an FBI informant | US news | The Guardian
[21:29:09] <Scheisskopf> That's what he gets for being Muslim
[21:29:20] <Scheisskopf> People like him won't even be in the U.S. at all after Trump is elected.
[21:29:25] <Scheisskopf> Trump++
[21:29:25] <Bender> karma - trump: 2
[21:30:15] <Scheisskopf> Hahah, there's an article on RT about Bacha Bazi....fucking disgusting
[21:34:43] <SirFinkus> I wouldn't mind living the the Czech Republic
[21:34:48] <SirFinkus> seems like a nice place
[21:35:00] <Scheisskopf> There's a lot of natural beauty in a lot of those countries
[21:35:05] <Scheisskopf> And hot wimmin
[21:37:19] <SirFinkus> "The first brewery is known to have existed in 993 and the Czech Republic has the highest beer consumption per capita in the world. "
[21:38:08] <SirFinkus> so I guess that means she'll probably be down to indulge my microbrew obsession
[21:38:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Flag of Origin on the Cancer Cell Surface Can be Used to Attack Them All - http://sylnt.us
[21:43:15] * SirFinkus wonders whether she'd get upset if I referred to certain regions as Protektorat Böhmen und Mähren
[21:53:30] <Scheisskopf> Aw, fug...got jury duty this month
[21:53:46] <SirFinkus> just have to call, or go in?
[21:53:51] <Scheisskopf> Will telling the lawyers that you believe in Jury nullification get you excused quickly?
[21:53:55] <Scheisskopf> (Gotta go in)
[21:54:02] <SirFinkus> try printing out irc logs
[21:54:25] <Scheisskopf> What do you mean?
[21:54:55] <SirFinkus> like "[13:27:50] <Scheisskopf> Arabs can be fun to party with but they are generally douchebags and hypocritical to the max -- praising Allah while snorting fat rails of coke off a Quran etc." should do
[21:55:10] <SirFinkus> or maybe "[13:24:58] <Scheisskopf> Nice, you should take advantage. Tell 'er rape is legal in the United States and explain that you have Serbian blood. "
[21:55:14] <SirFinkus> if you want to be sure
[21:55:44] <Scheisskopf> Hahahah, I think that would work only if Arabs, Serbians, or rape were involved.
[21:56:20] <Scheisskopf> The first time I really wanted to see how the system worked and be a good juror. When I saw what the process was like, it was kind of disgusting
[21:56:36] <SirFinkus> I got on a jury once, wasn't that bad
[21:56:41] <Scheisskopf> Like, the prosecutor was this hot young blonde wearing a skirt and sat with her legs toward the jury the whole time.
[21:56:45] <SirFinkus> got like $17 and free sandwiches
[21:57:06] <Scheisskopf> What was the crime?
[21:57:13] <SirFinkus> our prosecutor was a fat 50 something
[21:57:16] <SirFinkus> assault
[21:57:22] <Scheisskopf> was the fucker guilty?
[21:57:26] <SirFinkus> as hell
[21:58:00] <SirFinkus> they tried to tack on some shit about the victim being especially vulnerable, but we didn't go for that one
[21:58:10] <SirFinkus> it was just some bum fight
[21:58:16] <Scheisskopf> HAHAHAHAHAHA
[21:58:31] <Scheisskopf> Bumfights++
[21:58:31] <Bender> karma - bumfights: 1
[21:58:44] <SirFinkus> unfortunately, we didn't get to watch a video or anything
[21:59:45] <SirFinkus> seemed like the system worked fairly well in my case
[22:00:01] <SirFinkus> if they hadn't made a good case, I would have been a cunt about it
[22:00:04] <Scheisskopf> Mine too - the guy pled out and saved us all the trouble.
[22:00:20] <Scheisskopf> Black dude beat a six-month old infant
[22:00:32] <SirFinkus> fucked up
[22:00:34] <Scheisskopf> I felt bad for him...he did have some pretty good puppy-dog eyes
[22:01:06] <Scheisskopf> But yeah, beating a six-month old kid. Pretty goddamn heartless. Like beating puppies and kittens and shit.
[22:03:06] <SirFinkus> speaking of babies, apparently that bernie baby died
[22:03:11] <SirFinkus> SIDS
[22:03:33] <SirFinkus> http://www.nytimes.com
[22:03:34] <NotAnymore> ^ 03( http://www.nytimes.com )
[22:03:58] <Scheisskopf> Goddamn, that's fucked up. Especially the fact that that babby is gonna be outlasted by Bernie.
[22:04:49] Scheisskopf is now known as Scheisskopf|taking_a
[22:04:52] <SirFinkus> the mom is an attention whore too
[22:04:54] <SirFinkus> https://twitter.com
[22:04:55] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Susan Lomas (@SusieLomas) | Twitter
[22:05:37] <SirFinkus> it's pretty sickening, and makes me question the death a bit
[22:06:02] <SirFinkus> she's begging for money too
[22:06:07] <nick> the baby looks more like warren buffet
[22:06:18] <SirFinkus> https://www.gofundme.com
[22:06:19] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Oliver Jack Carter Lomas by Anastasia Lomas - GoFundMe
[22:06:34] <nick> so i'd blame him for stealing the life energy of the poor baby
[22:06:41] <SirFinkus> like, the baby died, why do they need money?
[22:06:45] <SirFinkus> if anything, they'll be saving money
[22:07:12] <nick> "The donations have been more than enough to cover costs for funeral and counseling. My sister has decided that the excess will be donated to a SIDS foundation of her choice at a later date. "
[22:07:32] <nick> because just because your baby died and you have huge emotional trauma, people still need to get paid
[22:07:48] <SirFinkus> yeah, but it seems scummy to me
[22:08:14] <nick> compared to half the shit people use those things for
[22:08:20] <nick> i can't be angry at that at all
[22:08:22] <SirFinkus> like, she's tweeting at tmz
[22:08:40] <nick> i don't think it's good that it's seen as a reasonable option
[22:08:55] <nick> but it's the world we live in, and people get money for far less important shit
[22:09:34] <nick> now if someone else takes the tragedy and uses it for self-promotion and guilt tripping people into being good Samaritans, then i'd be quite pissed.
[22:09:53] <SirFinkus> well, that's what the mother is doing imo
[22:10:01] <SirFinkus> maybe less guilt tripping
[22:10:05] <SirFinkus> but self promotion? fuck yes
[22:10:21] <nick> if not using the guilt tripping, then poor job of self-promotion
[22:10:42] <nick> i only know about it because of you, it's a minor story in the scheme of things really
[22:10:53] <SirFinkus> well, it was in NYT
[22:11:01] <nick> and the money is an insignificant amount
[22:11:07] <SirFinkus> 25k?
[22:11:13] <nick> if the woman decided to start up her own charity and fund and wanted $2mil
[22:11:14] <SirFinkus> that's a lot to the average person
[22:11:16] <nick> then different thing
[22:11:32] <nick> they asked for $16k, and the rest is being donated to an existing charity
[22:11:44] <Scheisskopf|taking_a> That sounds pretty indignant.
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[22:12:10] <Scheisskopf> If my babby died I wouldn't want to talk to fucking anybody.
[22:12:20] <nick> but then she'd probably have dressed the baby up to look like hilary clinton...
[22:12:25] <SirFinkus> would you tag all your tweets about it with #berniebaby?
[22:12:38] <nick> i wouldn't do a lot of things people do
[22:12:55] <SirFinkus> she's using the baby as an accessory
[22:12:56] <Scheisskopf> That's tacky.
[22:13:07] <SirFinkus> it's attention whoring
[22:13:15] <Scheisskopf> That's what shit like Facebook and Twitter do to cociety.
[22:13:18] <nick> i don't really disagree
[22:13:25] <nick> but our society rewards people a lot for being attention whores
[22:13:40] <nick> it's what we've been pushing and endorsing culturally for the last decade or so
[22:13:41] <SirFinkus> also suspicious of the whole sids thing, maybe that makes me an asshole
[22:14:02] <nick> famous for being famous, famous for being vaguely associated with someone who's famous
[22:14:08] <SirFinkus> but maybe the heat and novelty of the berniebaby thing was dying down, so a death would bring her back in the spotlight
[22:14:16] <SirFinkus> speculation, but I wonder sometimes
[22:14:22] <Scheisskopf> Ahh, good old Munchausen by Proxy
[22:14:44] <nick> i think it's another bullshit distraction more than anything
[22:14:54] <nick> we're talking about it, i bet it's generating a lot more articles and bullshit from all sides
[22:14:57] <Scheisskopf> Makes sense given her behavior. The best part is that if she stops getting attention she can just have another babby and kill that one too.
[22:15:04] <nick> all while we continue on completely ignoring real issues
[22:15:12] <SirFinkus> I heard trump autographed a baby
[22:15:16] <Scheisskopf> Real issues are depressing, nick.
[22:15:16] <nick> OMGZ CLICKBAIT ABOUT EMOTIONAL TRAUMA CUTE BABY DEATH OMGZ!
[22:15:27] <nick> we have taken the bait
[22:15:28] <Scheisskopf> There's no good news anymore. It's all bad.
[22:15:36] <nick> sure
[22:15:38] <SirFinkus> I have to admit, the baby in the bernie costume is fucking adorable
[22:15:46] <Scheisskopf> At least until they release municipal fusion and pull errybody outta the Middle-East.
[22:16:25] <Scheisskopf> Even if Lockheed does develop working municipal fusion they're gonna sit on it for 10-20 years 'cause MUH NATIONAL SECURRITY
[22:17:18] <Scheisskopf> and MUH WAR PROFITEERING
[22:17:35] <nick> i think thats more likely
[22:18:06] <SirFinkus> I haven't seen anything in the news lately that I'm at all happy about
[22:18:23] <nick> if you have seen something to make you happy
[22:18:30] <nick> it's probably bullshit and missing some important context
[22:18:54] <Scheisskopf> The only good news nowadays is science and tech news.
[22:19:32] <nick> Scheisskopf: i don't even get happy about that
[22:19:36] <Scheisskopf> And it's some bullshit that won't make my life better anytime soon. Shit like "new exotic particle discovered" or "hard drive with more storage"
[22:19:56] <SirFinkus> they ruined science and tech too
[22:19:58] <nick> i just end up thinking about the patents and IP laws coming into force, the ways the technology could be abused
[22:20:08] <SirFinkus> I just think of how they'll use it to fuck us
[22:20:15] <Scheisskopf> You sound in a bad mood, nick. May I buy you some whores and cocaine?
[22:20:16] <nick> SirFinkus: pretty much
[22:20:29] <nick> on the contrary, i'm in quite a good mood
[22:20:40] <nick> but that doesn't mean i dont see the bullshit for what it is
[22:20:41] <SirFinkus> careful nick, he didn't specify the gender of the whores
[22:21:03] <Scheisskopf> Hey, from the back they all look the same gender
[22:21:07] <nick> enough cocaine and i'm sure i could work with it
[22:21:48] <nick> but really kids, don't do drugs, you could end up being president.
[22:22:09] <SirFinkus> or a rock star
[22:22:36] <Scheisskopf> And don't post racist comments on the internet.
[22:22:45] <SirFinkus> ~folding-rank
[22:22:47] <exec> 072164
[22:22:58] <nick> don't think there's any more room for rock stars now
[22:23:14] <Scheisskopf> sure there is, nick -- when rock and roll is made dangerous again.
[22:23:19] <nick> the entertainment industry has really refined that 5 minutes of fame
[22:23:28] <Scheisskopf> And it just might be now that the ultra-PC fad is fading.
[22:23:37] <nick> because i think they worked out that when the rock stars came into being, it was a lot of work to keep them working and getting them moneys
[22:23:58] <Scheisskopf> We may get some more G.G. Allins rather than low-energy clowns like Shia LeBeouf
[22:24:00] <nick> so now, they push you for a while, keep you hungry and then let you fail so you don't get the leverage
[22:24:09] <nick> Scheisskopf: possibly
[22:25:10] <nick> i'm trying to think of a serious a-list 'rock star' to emerge in the last 15 years
[22:25:52] <Scheisskopf> Nick, now THAT's depressing.
[22:25:55] <Scheisskopf> Because there ain't one.
[22:25:59] <nick> that's my point
[22:26:11] <SirFinkus> I'm fine with that tbh
[22:26:17] <nick> the industry worked it out, those rock stars of the 70's, 80's and 90's were far too expensive to maintain
[22:26:34] <SirFinkus> as long as rock is popular enough to keep being made, I'm happy
[22:26:34] <Scheisskopf> Fink, so are people who listen to Kings of Leon and POD with straight faces
[22:26:36] <Scheisskopf> Bahaha.
[22:26:39] <nick> you dont want musicians with the leverage and power, so people really do just get their 5 minutes
[22:26:57] <nick> kings of leon can fuck off and die
[22:27:00] <SirFinkus> no, I actually like music Scheisskopf
[22:27:09] <nick> hearing their music makes me quite angry
[22:27:18] <Scheisskopf> Yeah, you got better taste than I do, fink.
[22:27:26] <SirFinkus> a bird shit in the bassist mouth, that should make you feel better nick
[22:27:31] <Scheisskopf> Hahahahahaha
[22:27:32] <nick> lol
[22:27:35] <SirFinkus> well, that's subjective
[22:27:47] <Scheisskopf> I bet he licked his chops and swallowed it all in one gulp.
[22:27:49] <Scheisskopf> hahahaha
[22:27:52] <nick> but really, it's not a bad thing
[22:27:59] <nick> that there are no more megastars
[22:28:01] <SirFinkus> no, he bitched and they stopped the concert
[22:28:04] <SirFinkus> pussies
[22:28:08] <Scheisskopf> Nobody's dangerous anymore.
[22:28:20] <Scheisskopf> We need more fire, more shit breaking, and more hard drug use.
[22:28:28] <nick> Scheisskopf: people are dangerous, but they're also a risk to the labels, so they don't make money properly
[22:28:41] <nick> a horrible but about the only current example, would be a group like Death Grips
[22:28:45] <SirFinkus> I've gone to concerts that were more demanding as an audience member than their performace was
[22:28:46] <SirFinkus> good christ
[22:28:54] <SirFinkus> I don't know how to word that thought
[22:29:20] <nick> you're not going to get promoted by any labels or anything if you're a risk of no-showing events
[22:29:27] <nick> being incoherent during interviews
[22:29:31] <nick> slagging off your label mates
[22:29:43] <SirFinkus> someone sprayed pepper spray during a concert at one of the places I go
[22:30:08] <nick> SirFinkus: yeah im not quite sure what you meant by that
[22:30:43] <SirFinkus> ok, so I've endured more going to concerts than they did during that performance
[22:30:46] <SirFinkus> and THEY pussed out
[22:30:48] <nick> i'm a huge fan of live music but i can't stand big arena shows or anything anymore, if it's more than 1000 people, fuck that.
[22:30:58] <nick> yeah, ive had that quite a few times
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[22:40:13] <SirFinkus> ok, who did it?
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[22:48:52] * crutchy blames ciri
[22:49:10] * nick blames the government
[22:49:25] * crutchy blames drumpf
[22:49:40] <nick> if it's not actually the government
[22:49:52] <nick> you can be sure it's that damn liberal media
[22:50:25] <SirFinkus> I blame China, Iran, Russia, or North Korea
[22:50:40] <SirFinkus> I'm not sure which one, but I'm sure one (or more) are involved
[22:51:30] <nick> ah but what you're missing there is if it wasn't for the liberal media and sympathisers/traitors in our government, we'd have been able to stop those guys causing all the problems by bombing them to freedom
[22:51:46] <crutchy> amurcan freedum!
[22:51:53] <SirFinkus> so you're saying it's the Jews?
[22:52:15] <crutchy> we must save muslims by bombing the shit out of them
[22:53:15] <nick> because when an airstrike happens in the middle east, people need to understand when it's a NATO bomb, it's a freedom bomb, and any of the others are terrorist bombs or destabilisation bombs
[22:53:29] <nick> need to see the flag on the side of the missile so you know how to respond to it if it kills your family
[22:54:30] <nick> understanding it was your fault for being in an area with several other people who have cellphones who may or may not have had a few stages of separation from a 'person of interest'
[22:54:40] <crutchy> and if a nato bomb hits a hospital, you can feel safer because it was likely full of terrorists anyway
[22:54:54] <nick> exactly!
[22:55:24] <crutchy> you can trust us because we have satellites and hillary clinton!
[22:56:13] <nick> the millions of displaced people in the middle east need to understand that 9-11 happened and the NATO forces don't like being away from home
[22:56:26] <nick> you must show them compassion when they get the wrong target consistently, they have a lot of stress
[22:57:04] <crutchy> especially the ones fighting on the front line flying drones from US soil
[22:57:20] <nick> indeed, they have to go to the grocery store after and pretend like nothing happened
[22:57:21] <crutchy> being away from their families for a whole 8 hours is terribly difficult
[22:58:04] <nick> you know, 1/5 drone operators suffers from RSI
[22:58:11] <nick> it's a very risky job
[22:58:25] <crutchy> from fapping too much?
[22:58:48] <nick> dont know if it goes for both hands, one on the 'fire' button, the other on their dicks
[22:59:02] <crutchy> they should get double the compensation
[22:59:07] <SirFinkus> I wonder how long it will be before drones are crowdsourced
[22:59:10] <SirFinkus> think ender's game
[22:59:30] <SirFinkus> trick people into thinking they're playing a video game
[22:59:45] <crutchy> eventually if you own a drone you're a terrorist
[22:59:55] <SirFinkus> when you're really dropping jdams on weddings
[23:00:28] <nick> SirFinkus: pretty sure that's how it already works
[23:00:59] <crutchy> GTA was really an ARPA prototype
[23:01:26] <SirFinkus> grand theft afganistan?
[23:01:37] <crutchy> lol
[23:01:47] <crutchy> SirFinkus++
[23:01:47] <Bender> karma - sirfinkus: 30
[23:01:53] <nick> look at some of the military video games that do the drone stuff now
[23:02:12] <nick> it's extremely close to the footage that gets shown on the news, they're replicating it very well.
[23:02:34] <crutchy> train them early, train them well
[23:02:37] <nick> if you're already into that kind of thing for the sake of combat
[23:02:51] <nick> then it's not a hard transition from playing ARMA to controlling a real drone i'd think
[23:02:57] <crutchy> morals are for pussies
[23:03:09] <SirFinkus> ehh, arma hadwaves a ton of stuff
[23:03:13] <nick> i have a moral duty to protect my country and my family
[23:03:18] <SirFinkus> the flight model is atrocious
[23:03:19] <nick> and thats what my commanding officer says this is all about
[23:03:51] <SirFinkus> I think arma would be more valuable to teaching overall tactics
[23:03:59] <nick> thats more my point
[23:04:09] <SirFinkus> understanding what you have to work with, then using that to the greatest effect
[23:04:11] <nick> it's a large scale simulation, no part of it is perfect
[23:04:18] <SirFinkus> no individual weapons systems
[23:05:01] <nick> have you seen the new 3D editor in ARMA3?
[23:05:10] <SirFinkus> yeah, a bit
[23:05:17] <nick> is pretty awesome
[23:05:39] <SirFinkus> I haven't played arma in a while, saving up for a new desktop
[23:05:48] <nick> just waiting for the community addon stuff to get all the stuff ported over from A2
[23:06:10] <SirFinkus> oh man, you just reminded me of that "six updater shit"
[23:06:18] <nick> yeah fuck that
[23:06:20] <SirFinkus> probably the worst piece of software I ever used
[23:06:28] <nick> the A3 launcher is a lot better
[23:07:03] <nick> playwith6 is probably one of the worst bits of software in history
[23:07:07] <SirFinkus> I remember it was this ruby abortion that started a web server to configure it, and that would launch several command line windows doing god knows what
[23:07:25] <SirFinkus> UI was the worst I've ever seen
[23:08:15] <nick> if you do like making scenarios, A3 is about as good as things are going to get really, still a lot of crap in there
[23:08:28] <nick> but the 3D editor does make life a lot easier to get something up and running quickly
[23:09:06] <nick> i created a peaceful scenario with a refugee camp, as is my pacifist nature.
[23:09:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tony Dyson, Creator of R2-D2, Passes Away - http://sylnt.us - sad-beeping
[23:09:33] <SirFinkus> arma is one of those games I like watching more than playing
[23:09:45] <nick> left it to my friend and on the other side of the island he built a PMC outpost with drones and SAM's and a bunch of other shit
[23:09:54] <SirFinkus> getting a whole squad of buddies to coordinate is too hard
[23:10:29] <nick> yeah
[23:10:56] <nick> i'm working on a project which im going to use arma3 for, but it is a lot of work to create a full scale scenario
[23:11:07] <nick> and even harder to have a PC that can handle it on one of the bigger maps
[23:11:09] <SirFinkus> great fun when you pull it off though
[23:11:42] <nick> yeah
[23:12:45] <nick> the altis map i think it is, is fucking huge
[23:13:53] <nick> 270 km2
[23:14:24] <SirFinkus> I always like playing on the arma 1 map
[23:14:26] <SirFinkus> sahari?
[23:14:36] <SirFinkus> no, that's not it
[23:14:45] <SirFinkus> the arma 3 one looks nice too
[23:14:54] <SirFinkus> chenarus was kind of boring
[23:14:58] <nick> ramadi is a good map
[23:15:28] <nick> it's handy they made Arma3 maps based of greece and that area
[23:15:42] <nick> especially now with all the refugees and the current political situation in greece
[23:16:16] <nick> chenarus is ok, but there isn't much to it
[23:16:23] <nick> was pretty much perfect for DayZ though
[23:17:06] <SirFinkus> yeah, liked it
[23:17:50] <SirFinkus> I'm a bit upset with BIS though, they're doing scummy things like raising the price of their games and then putting them "on sale"
[23:17:54] <nick> the killing fields of balota will remain in my memory forever
[23:18:30] <nick> pretty sure i got A3 for full price and was bitterly disappointed by the lack of content
[23:18:47] <SirFinkus> oa had a nice map too
[23:18:48] <nick> so much less than what A2 had with DLC's
[23:19:03] <SirFinkus> and the enfield
[23:19:09] <SirFinkus> with no animations :(
[23:19:20] <nick> i got A2:CO+DLC's so it was quite complete when i actually first played it
[23:19:32] <nick> so going to A3 after that was shit, played it once and felt ripped off
[23:19:46] <nick> it's only good now because the community is slowly porting all the old A2 content
[23:20:11] <SirFinkus> it is nice that bis allows that
[23:20:49] <nick> think they know they wouldn't have much of a product left if they didn't
[23:21:34] <nick> waiting for updates to the jurassic arma mod though
[23:21:41] <nick> i want raptors damn it
[23:23:31] <nick> are there any good dinosaur games yet or what?
[23:24:17] <SirFinkus> Dino D-Day
[23:25:04] <nick> no.
[23:25:10] <SirFinkus> yes
[23:25:11] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[23:25:13] <nick> dinosaurs don't need guns.
[23:25:17] <nick> they're dinosaurs for fucks sake
[23:26:03] <nick> it's like the jurassic world video game from what i've seen 'people are bored of dinosaurs now, needs moar!'
[23:26:05] <SirFinkus> most of them don't have guns
[23:26:51] <nick> ark:survival evolved seems ok, but i havn't seen much of it
[23:27:04] <nick> so that could have some bullshit too
[23:27:05] <SirFinkus> Orion:prelude
[23:27:44] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[23:28:12] <nick> for $1, i'm not going to bitch about orion:prelude
[23:28:23] <SirFinkus> I got a 4 pack for that
[23:29:43] <nick> bit too scifi for my tastes
[23:30:08] <nick> but i admit, i'm the weird one on that, being a nerd/geek or whatever that doesn't really care for scifi
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[23:39:20] <Scheisskopf> Have any of you all had to deal with octal?
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[23:44:10] <crutchy> is that like javascript times 8?
[23:46:47] <Scheisskopf> the base-8 numbering system.
[23:46:51] <Scheisskopf> Aye, Focker.
[23:47:08] <Scheisskopf> outside of niche applications it seems to be never used.
[23:47:12] <crutchy> ahoy!
[23:47:19] <Scheisskopf> it's all decimal, binary, and hex.
[23:47:21] <crutchy> is it used in embedded shit?
[23:47:35] <crutchy> i think i seen some oct in microcontroller stuff maybe
[23:48:21] <Scheisskopf> It was probably the hex before computers were powerful enough to handle hex
[23:48:43] <Scheisskopf> I've never seen octal outside the military.
[23:51:25] <crutchy> wow. turkey is nationalizing its top selling newspaper
[23:51:33] <Scheisskopf> nationalism++
[23:51:33] <Bender> karma - nationalism: 1
[23:52:13] <Scheisskopf> crutchy, it's pretty much the same situation with all papers here, except that Turkey's more honest about their government takeover of the media.
[23:52:23] <nick> crutchy: that's a very polite way of putting it
[23:52:26] <crutchy> its kinda funny how capitalism is now the enemy and communism is the good guy
[23:52:26] <Scheisskopf> The cat's outta the bag now, though. There ain't no stoppin' it.
[23:52:49] <Scheisskopf> crutchy, agreed.
[23:52:53] <nick> since when is communism the good guy?
[23:53:02] <nick> i've not heard that...
[23:53:16] <crutchy> bernie sanders is popular
[23:53:39] <nick> ah so we're going with the whole 'anything that isn't capitalism is communism'
[23:53:53] <crutchy> nah bernie has openly admitted he's a socialist
[23:53:56] <Scheisskopf> communism = rich robbing the middle-class and poor and telling them it's for a great cause - to feed the worlds poor and starving
[23:54:00] <crutchy> he calls it 'democratic socialism'
[23:54:01] <nick> crutchy: which is not communism
[23:54:14] * Scheisskopf shoots the starving and poor in the head with an AR-15
[23:54:15] <crutchy> its kinda similarish
[23:54:26] <nick> it's kind of similarish like capitalism is similarish to fascism
[23:54:29] <crutchy> years ago any form of socialism was the enemy
[23:54:33] <Scheisskopf> What America needs is NATIONAL SOCIALISM.
[23:54:38] <nick> lets not break the existing narratives
[23:54:51] <crutchy> capitlaism isn't a form of government
[23:55:25] <crutchy> lol my spelling has been atrocious thismorning
[23:55:35] <nick> socialism in it's actual definition isn't either, it's a social ideology
[23:55:52] <crutchy> it requires force though, hence government intervention
[23:56:17] <nick> capitalism has had a good track record of requiring force
[23:56:17] <crutchy> otherwise people will naturally resort to capitalism
[23:56:22] <nick> but of course thats not actual capitalism
[23:56:27] <crutchy> capitalism can't force anyone to do anything
[23:56:31] <nick> just the same as everything else isn't actually communism
[23:56:32] <crutchy> true
[23:56:39] <nick> we're just using labels to divide and confuse the issue
[23:56:48] <crutchy> i was just thinking of USSR as communism
[23:56:56] <nick> simplistic one word definitions to describe millions of nuanced views on the world
[23:56:58] <crutchy> i'll call it USSRism then :p
[23:57:04] <nick> regardless of how similar or misguided those views are
[23:57:13] <nick> it does everyone a disservice to boil it down into a black and white issue
[23:57:16] <Scheisskopf> Russians wrote way more profound literature than Americans.
[23:57:25] <crutchy> russians are smart
[23:57:52] <nick> as ive said in here before, my father is a self-proclaimed socialist
[23:58:29] <nick> he's not one, but thats all he knows to identify as, as an alternative to the old guard british conservative corporate bullshit
[23:58:32] <Scheisskopf> Soylent News' color is red, for socialism.
[23:58:41] <crutchy> socialism is a fine ideology. it will just never work in practice, just as capitalism will always be squashed by government intervention
[23:58:52] <Scheisskopf> It is people. Like the smurfs. Papa smurf's hat was red. Socialism!
[23:58:59] <nick> crutchy: it depends if you just call everyone who uses their leverage the government
[23:59:17] <crutchy> the only people that can legally use force is government
[23:59:19] <Scheisskopf> crutchy, capitalism will never work in practise because people get so greedy they eat each other.
[23:59:23] <crutchy> otherwise it becomes criminal
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[23:59:32] <Scheisskopf> crutchy, and government contractors.
[23:59:42] <Scheisskopf> Who can deny that they were paid by the government.
[23:59:42] <crutchy> government contractors aren't capitalists
[23:59:52] <nick> i'm not using force, i'm just building a big wall to stop you getting to the water supply
[23:59:52] <crutchy> they are lobbyists