#Soylent | Logs for 2016-03-03

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[00:31:50] <cmn32480> the hill is steeper up this far Deucalion!
[00:40:55] <Deucalion> I understand that... we've just been overtaking mostly dormant teams so far(?)
[00:41:03] <cmn32480> prolly
[00:41:09] <cmn32480> and there are still a lot fo them ahead of us
[00:41:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> tell your computer hamster to run faster.
[00:41:28] <cmn32480> I gave him coffee this morning....
[00:41:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> give him a taste of the lash
[00:41:44] <Deucalion> give him some of TMB's meds tomorrow :D
[00:41:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> or that, yeah
[00:42:20] <cmn32480> tomorrow I'll give him double caff
[00:42:44] * cmn32480 wonders if they still sell "Jolt" cola...
[00:44:37] <Deucalion> ugh - I splatted a little annoying insectoid on my main screen yesterday... it seems to have fused its corpse to the thing by way of retaliation.... bang slap in the middle.... karma is real :D
[00:45:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wintergatan - a Programmable Music Box With 2,000 Marbles - http://sylnt.us - that's-just-cool
[00:45:22] <cmn32480> alcohol wipes
[00:49:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, think i got a doubly linked list going and functions to push and pop from either end.
[00:54:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> will have Subsentient look at it next time he's around. make sure i didn't stupid more than usual.
[00:54:34] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: You are in luck, I just got home.
[00:56:55] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: got code?
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[01:04:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, sure, hang on.
[01:05:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com
[01:05:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com
[01:05:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> started out being a fifo but that ended up not being what i wanted.
[01:08:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, nm, them was dated versions. hadn't hit save in a while
[01:08:54] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: yeah I noticed that code was pretty illegal in many places. Got newer code?
[01:08:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> regrab them if you already had them
[01:09:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> same links
[01:13:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i do get warnings compiling though. couple places i drop the const off a variable.
[01:16:23] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: You got a lot of missing headers, a lot of undeclared variables and constants, and a misuse of the static keyword, both in spirit and in the fact its initializer is not constant, on 104.
[01:17:24] <Subsentient> Also, missing function prototypes. You got a lot of functions you are calling from other functions defined BEFORE them. That will get you type errors at compilation.
[01:17:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, yeah, i should add the three std libs i used in the test file i spose
[01:18:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, didn't put the push/unshift in the headers yet
[01:18:20] <Subsentient> brb gotta p00p.
[01:18:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> which undeclared variables though?
[01:25:52] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Both STACK_ARR_SIZE and the arrc member are undeclared. if( strlen(c) < STACK_ARR_SIZE ) strcpy(p->arrc, c);
[01:26:07] <cmn32480> 💩
[01:26:08] * exec chucks a nasty sloppy dogshit at aqu4
[01:26:26] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Compile your code with -std=gnu99 -pedantic -Wall -g3 -O0 -fstrict-aliasing
[01:26:33] <Subsentient> That's probably the best way.
[01:26:41] <Subsentient> Will catch anything wonky.
[01:26:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, yar, already corrected after you said something about undeclared vars. that started as someone else's less nifty lifo.
[01:27:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be MAX_ELEMENT_SIZE and p->string respectively
[01:29:25] * Deucalion sits by the fire with a fine malt watching voodoo in action all around :)
[01:34:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> whew, that's a mess of errors. well, one at a time then.
[01:35:43] <Deucalion> Subsentient++
[01:35:43] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 42
[01:35:47] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard++
[01:35:48] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 221
[01:38:18] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Also, as a general advice, I recommend avoiding compiler extensions, like typeof, __attribute__, etc. It's better to write standards compliant code and I find it makes your code much more portable.
[01:38:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[01:41:14] <cmn32480> my kids think the Wintergatan Music Machine is pretty sweet.
[01:42:42] <takyon> still need to watch the vid
[01:42:54] <cmn32480> totally worht the 5 minutes'
[01:42:55] <takyon> my main browser is so full of script blockers youtube won't load
[01:43:50] <cmn32480> fire up your other browser
[01:55:10] <SirFinkus> https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:55:11] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Wiki: FB Vis
[01:55:12] <SirFinkus> I want one
[01:55:30] <SirFinkus> it might even be prettier than the 1911
[01:57:33] <cmn32480> blasphemer!
[01:57:51] <SirFinkus> no, I'm just radical
[01:58:07] <cmn32480> radical... and wrong
[01:58:08] <SirFinkus> I haven't crossed over to blasphemy
[02:00:21] <SirFinkus> I like the angled serrations (on a standard 1911 they're vertical) the rounded hammer, and the triangular grips
[02:00:28] <SirFinkus> gives it an art deco feel
[02:01:47] <SirFinkus> it also looks nicer for carrying, fewer sharp edges to get snagged
[02:04:55] * SirFinkus ponders whether it is still possible to hire someone to deliver a singing telegram
[02:05:23] <chromas> they'd probably get shot
[02:05:35] <SirFinkus> A kissogram, also called kissagram (short for kissing telegram), is a message delivered along with a kiss,[4] usually arranged as a fun surprise for a person for a special occasion. Message deliverers can be hired either by themselves, or as part of an agency. A kissogram is usually presented by a female or male performer dressed in a costume or uniform such as a police officer
[02:05:35] <SirFinkus> , nurse, french maid or nun.
[02:06:20] <SirFinkus> https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:06:21] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Wiki: Singing telegram ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[02:16:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oceanic Shipping Prices Reach Record Low - http://sylnt.us - time-to-move-boatloads-of-stuff
[02:18:29] <Deucalion> Hmm, is SpallsHurgenson MIA?
[02:19:29] <SirFinkus> haven't seen him in a while
[02:19:50] <SirFinkus> messaged him on steam asking how he'd been, but didn't reply
[02:21:08] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[02:21:26] <cmn32480> ~last spallshurgenson
[02:21:27] <exec> 03Ops: random, first, last, all, count, source. Parameters: message, nick, channel (regex); since, until (date-/time range); limit (maximum messages to return; default is 1, unless op=all); type [message (plain+action; default), plain, action, nick, mode, join, part, quit, kick, kill, topic]; out [json, php, tab, irc, message, html]; debug (show the query and whatever else)
[02:21:27] <exec>  http://chromas.0x.no
[02:21:41] <cmn32480> ~last nick=spallshurgenson channel=
[02:21:47] <exec> 03[2016-01-20 02:05:5] #Soylent -*- SpallsHurgenson daringly runs the toaster and the microwave at the same time
[02:22:02] <Deucalion> A month or so since he showed face here if my command-fu is right, and on Steam "Away" since I dunno. Hope he's OK
[02:22:10] <SirFinkus> another casualty
[02:22:21] <Deucalion> Maybe he tripped over his pants on the floor
[02:22:30] <SirFinkus> I'll miss his lack of pants
[02:22:49] <cmn32480> it happens... RL intervenes
[02:23:00] <Deucalion> or RD does :(
[02:23:16] <SirFinkus> indecent exposure jail sentences happen
[02:24:35] <Deucalion> Maybe the cat killed him in his sleep... the bastard has been plotting, we know that much.... hiding up in the ceiling during renovations and all that were just ninja practice.
[02:25:46] <Bytram> Kato!
[02:26:48] <Deucalion> His final words were, "Not now Kato!" :D
[02:28:42] <Bytram> It's a bömb!
[02:29:13] <cmn32480> ir is it a traaaaap?
[02:30:14] <Bytram> Not now Kato!
[02:42:44] <takyon> i think i'll submit a hololens dev kit story
[02:42:48] <takyon> some of the specs are known now
[02:43:04] <takyon> http://www.pcworld.com
[02:43:05] <NotAnymore> ^ 03We found 7 critical HoloLens details that Microsoft hid inside its developer docs | PCWorld
[02:53:42] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
[02:53:44] <exec> 072398
[02:53:56] <Bytram> !woop
[02:53:56] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[02:54:53] <Bytram> at this rate, we are generating more than 1 MEELION points every 3 days
[02:55:44] <Bytram> and, in the past 7 days, we have climbed 822 positions in our rank!
[02:56:29] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:56:30] <NotAnymore> ^ 03$17 smartwatch sends something to random Chinese IP address • The Register
[02:56:58] <Bytram> oh, and the next update is to be run in about 5 minutes (then give it another few minutes for the values to propagate through.)
[02:57:36] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:57:37] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Google risks everything if it doesn’t grab Android round the throat • The Register
[02:59:17] <SirFinkus> I just subbed a work unit too
[03:00:11] <Bytram> SirFinkus++
[03:00:11] <Bender> karma - sirfinkus: 29
[03:00:39] <SirFinkus> ~folding-rank
[03:00:41] <exec> 072372
[03:00:47] <SirFinkus> 26
[03:02:27] <cmn32480> hey - got a Steam message back from SpallsHurgenson
[03:02:34] <cmn32480> says hes been busy as hell.
[03:02:45] <cmn32480> learned there was porn on the interwebs
[03:03:02] <cmn32480> Sirfinkus ^^^
[03:06:49] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[03:06:50] <NotAnymore> ^ 03SN Submission by Gaaark: Huntington's disease: University of Toronto researcher is first to share lab notes in real time
[03:07:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Bytram
[03:07:05] * MrPlow smakes Bytram upside the head with a pile of moose droppings
[03:07:17] <cmn32480> ewwwwwwwwww
[03:07:17] * Bytram guffaws!
[03:07:18] <Deucalion> xD glad to hear he's alive and still spanking the monkey :D
[03:08:26] <cmn32480> ~gday bytram
[03:08:28] * exec prematurely twerks my butt of privilege for bytram
[03:09:04] <cmn32480> logs in to see WTF chromas has added to the gday list
[03:09:11] <takyon> I need to figure out how to reset a CSS animation
[03:09:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, time for me to sleep then do a significant rework of all that work i did today.
[03:09:41] <cmn32480> ~gngiht buzzard
[03:09:46] <takyon> document.getElementById('autosaveState').style.transition='unset'; document.getElementById('autosaveState').style.opacity='1'; document.getElementById('autosaveState').style.transition='opacity .5s'; document.getElementById('autosaveState').style.opacity='0';
[03:09:47] <cmn32480> ~gnight buzzard
[03:09:50] * exec abnormally slides a spoon of g'day juice to buzzard
[03:09:58] <cmn32480> have fun mapping the inside of yoru eyelids
[03:10:14] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: good night!
[03:10:34] <arti> http://imgur.com
[03:10:49] <nick> can someone please tell me what the damn time is
[03:10:54] <takyon> the code above will take visible text and make it fade out... just once. but running the code again won't make it suddenly reappear and fade out. it just stays gone
[03:10:57] <Bytram> ~time x
[03:11:00] <exec> Thursday, 3 March 2016 @ 3:10 am UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[03:11:10] <Bytram> nick: ^^^
[03:11:11] <takyon> ~time z
[03:11:14] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Thursday, 3 March 2016, 3:11 am
[03:11:44] <nick> in the timezone im actually in
[03:12:19] <Bytram> which timezone are you actually in?
[03:12:32] <nick> well, i'm in uruguay
[03:12:38] <nick> my phone thinks its 1am
[03:12:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~time uruguay
[03:12:56] <exec> Thursday, 3 March 2016 @ 12:12 am GMT-3 - Uruguay
[03:12:56] <nick> google says its midnight
[03:13:18] <nick> androids clock is bullshit
[03:13:39] <Deucalion> nick, 03:13 UTC / GMT
[03:13:50] <arti> it's actually beer o'clock
[03:13:55] <nick> and so is whatever bullshit linux mint does with it's custom yahoo search
[03:14:13] <nick> Montevideo, Uruguay - Current Time
[03:14:13] <nick> 1:06 AM UYST on Thursday, March 3
[03:15:27] <nick> ive tried it on two android phones and they both say its 1, but aside from them and linux mint's yahoo search
[03:15:32] <nick> everything else is going for midnight
[03:15:43] <cmn32480> what does the clock on the nightstand say?
[03:15:50] <nick> i dont have one
[03:15:54] <Deucalion> Ask a local?
[03:15:58] <cmn32480> clock on the VCR?
[03:16:00] <nick> but the clock in my hire car says its midnight
[03:16:02] <cmn32480> 12:00
[03:16:05] <cmn32480> 12:00
[03:16:07] <cmn32480> 12:00
[03:16:09] <cmn32480> 12:00
[03:16:44] <Bytram> 00:00
[03:16:46] <Bytram> 12:00
[03:16:47] <Bytram> 12:00
[03:16:49] <Bytram> 12:00
[03:16:49] <nick> im supposed to be meeting someone an hour away at 10am
[03:16:52] <Bytram> 00:00
[03:16:56] <Bytram> 12:00
[03:16:57] <nick> so this is just annoying
[03:16:58] <Bytram> 00:00
[03:17:00] <cmn32480> leave extra early
[03:17:12] <cmn32480> just in case you cross a time zone line or something
[03:17:13] <Bytram> so, call THEM up and ask what time it is?
[03:17:33] <nick> if id have figured it out earlier today i would have done
[03:18:43] <Deucalion> But on a serious note, if you have your bios set to UTC, then have ntpd running, then set your user login to your current locale you should be good. I remember the headaches dual-booting when windows would insist on writing local time to the BIOS rather than just adjusting user-space time per user as an offset.
[03:19:25] <Deucalion> Does windows still do that ir have they become more savvy in recent years?
[03:19:49] <nick> i havnt changed the clock on my laptop, that's still in UK time, but my phone with a local simcard doesnt know wtf
[03:19:59] <nick> androids default clock is just wrong on the timezone
[03:20:18] <Deucalion> Change your user TZ then
[03:22:51] <Deucalion> As far as I am concerned, hardware and base OS should always run on UTC. Localisation can be done on the per user or application basis as an offset.
[03:23:04] <nick> i cant with whatever the clock is, because it does it automatically and you cant adjust it
[03:23:23] <Deucalion> wtf phone is that?
[03:23:24] <nick> it only let me have it as my primary clock after i got a local SIM
[03:23:46] <nick> until then because i'd told it i was in the UK, it wouldnt let me have anything else as primary clock
[03:24:02] <nick> its an asus zenfone 5
[03:24:25] <Bytram> call them up and ask them to call you an hour before you are due there.
[03:25:19] <nick> i'll do that in the morning, either way now they're probably sleeping
[03:26:10] <Deucalion> ~shrug~ Work out the offset from local time to phone time and set alarm accordingly, or as we did in the olden days, use the wired phone to ask reception to give you an alarm call at a particular time.
[03:26:48] <nick> im going to have to do the offset, cant ask reception as i have rented an apartment
[03:27:41] <takyon> oo fixed it
[03:29:51] <Deucalion> Just hope it doesn't correct the system clock while you are asleep :) I miss those little analog travel alarm clocks... size of a matchbox, 1 AA battery, set and crash.
[03:29:52] <nick> ahhhh
[03:29:59] <nick> i figured out why this happens
[03:30:15] <nick> " On 30 June 2015, Uruguayan government decided to abolish DST from this year putting the country in UTC−3 all year round."
[03:30:28] <takyon> this code is terrible:
[03:30:29] <takyon> document.getElementById('autosaveState').style.transition='opacity 0s'; document.getElementById('autosaveState').style.opacity='1'; document.getElementById('autosaveState').offsetWidth = document.getElementById('autosaveState').offsetWidth; document.getElementById('autosaveState').style.transition='opacity 1s'; document.getElementById('autosaveState').style.opacity='0';
[03:30:52] <Deucalion> nick, and the phone OS does not have up to date TZ data?
[03:30:58] <takyon> the 0-second transition at the beginning and that offsetWidth hack are both needed to reset the transition
[03:31:10] <Deucalion> Thanks6 months ago :(
[03:31:14] <Deucalion> wtf
[03:31:18] <nick> Deucalion: i'm guessing so, same with the custom yahoo search
[03:31:30] <nick> but regular yahoo is fine
[03:32:50] <nick> right now i can go to bed
[03:32:54] <nick> g'night peoples
[03:32:56] <Deucalion> sleep well
[03:32:58] * nick hat tip
[03:33:07] <cmn32480> ~gnight nick
[03:33:09] * exec transphobically blows a cheap plastic cup of chromas' tossed salad at nick
[03:33:53] <Bytram> nick: hope you have a good night and sleep well!
[03:34:12] <Deucalion> OK https://www.google.co.uk is serving up some weird "consent" banner thing to UK users right now....
[03:34:12] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Google
[03:34:51] <chromas> If your clock says "12:00" then it's set wrong
[03:34:56] <chromas> It should say "00:00"
[03:35:09] <cmn32480> only if it is flashing
[03:35:09] <Deucalion> It could be midday to be fair
[03:35:24] <Bytram> what time is one minute after noon?
[03:35:28] <Bytram> 12:01
[03:35:38] <Bytram> what is one minute before that? 12:00
[03:35:44] <chromas> Midday? That's not kind! Rewind! to the beginning of the day
[03:36:03] <Deucalion> I prefer 2 minutes to midnight... time pfft.... it's all relative
[03:36:33] <takyon> i just watched the wintergaten
[03:36:36] <takyon> wow
[03:37:03] <cmn32480> unreal right?
[03:37:18] <cmn32480> the guy has other videos on his site for how he built it all
[03:38:34] <takyon> ok now that I have the css transition working, I'll be able to tell when the thing autosaves. so I can test whether autosave is working, as well as to make sure it doesn't autosave after autosave is turned off
[03:39:18] <takyon> my first impression is that i need to switch from onchange to onkeydown so it will save as you type and not have to wait after the textbox loses focus
[03:47:22] <Deucalion> OK... www.google.co.uk no longer gives a search box simple page when accessed from a UK IP and using a script blocker - it fails hard. Selective allowing of scripts and request policy to google.com finally reveals they are forcing people to read their "privacy reminder".
[03:47:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EFF: U.S. State Department Will Try to Fix Wassenaar Arrangement - http://sylnt.us - software-wants-to-be-free
[03:47:52] <Deucalion> When you search for a restaurant on Google Maps or watch a video on YouTube, for example, we process information about that activity – including information like the video you watched, device IDs, IP addresses, cookie data and location.
[03:51:34] <SirFinkus> re spalls: glad to hear cmn32480
[03:52:01] <takyon> amazing scope handling
[03:52:04] <cmn32480> yeah. the rest of us too
[03:52:52] <takyon> the use of the "var" keyword is not intuitive at all in javascript. but i've made a global timer that is cleared while you are continuously typing, so you only get one autosave instead of 50
[03:53:16] <takyon> now the last test is to make sure autosave is definitively disabled when you turn it off. and now that clearTimeout works that should be easy
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[03:54:32] <Deucalion> This has to be a reaction to the current Investigatory Powers Bill currently tabled in the UK parliament for speedy passage. Like a shot over the bows... OK, you pass that bill, this is what we can do, you do know how many people think Google ~is~ the web? Nice tactical move from Google without being overt or shouty.
[03:55:35] <takyon> oh shit, I forgot to submit something about the Investigatory Powers Bill
[03:55:38] <takyon> oops
[03:55:51] <takyon> #SoylentDoesNotStandWithUK
[03:56:43] <Deucalion> Google protecting their business I know, but still common enemies make unlikely allies coalesce.
[03:56:54] <takyon> uh oh, it autosaved even after I turned it off
[03:57:30] <Bytram> Deucalion: "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" ??
[03:59:41] <Deucalion> Bytram, maybe in the short term in certain circumstances, in any longer time scale always watch your back :D
[03:59:57] <Bytram> and all the other sides, too!
[04:01:29] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $697
[04:01:54] <Deucalion> takyon, I do hope that's not a valid twitter tag. :/
[04:02:18] <takyon> it is now
[04:02:26] * takyon tweets disdain
[04:03:00] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[04:03:02] * exec crutchyly offers dogbox of recycled toiletpaper to #soylent
[04:03:10] <Deucalion> ~gnight again cmn32480
[04:03:12] * exec dexterously slides a pair of used panties full of social justice to again
[04:07:03] <Deucalion> takyon, I'm sure that within the Soylent community there are those that fully agree with the contents of the IPB and see it as a good thing. SoylentNews as an organisation does not take a position on it one way or the other.
[04:07:45] <takyon> ~define joke
[04:07:47] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03Joke: Q: What does a Big Fat White women and a Brick have in common? A: Sooner or later, they will both be laid by a Mexican.
[04:08:19] <Deucalion> never know with you takyon :P
[04:08:41] <takyon> i'm just talking in between working on this code
[04:09:25] <takyon> I can do element.onkeydown = function() {...} but can't clear it with element.onkeydown = null or element.onkeydown = function() {} (a blank one)
[04:09:56] <Bytram> element.onkeyup ??
[04:09:58] -!- nick [nick!~nick@Soylent/Staff/Editor/n1] has joined #Soylent
[04:09:58] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v nick] by Aphrodite
[04:10:08] <takyon> funny, but no
[04:10:36] <takyon> the problem is that i set an onkeydown that is used for autosaving, but when I turn off autosave, I need to get rid of that function. and it doesn't want to go away
[04:10:52] <Deucalion> I've yet to read the current iteration of the IPB, so I'm mostly staying quiet on the matter. The limited time for review to get it passed to alarm me though.
[04:11:24] <Bytram> hmmm, if you cannot 'get rid of' that function, replace it with another function that is benign
[04:11:26] <takyon> yeah I'm sure you have time to read a 10million page surveillance bill rushed through the house of lording over or w/e
[04:11:27] <Bytram> ??
[04:11:33] <takyon> yeah neither worked
[04:11:35] <takyon> I was going by:
[04:11:42] <takyon> http://stackoverflow.com
[04:11:42] <NotAnymore> ^ 03javascript - How to remove an eventhandler document.onkeydown? - Stack Overflow
[04:12:04] <takyon> i think the problem may be I never actually call the function that does this turn off process
[04:12:14] <Bytram> ooooops!
[04:12:18] <takyon> well idk yet
[04:12:22] <takyon> time to do some console.log
[04:12:26] <Bytram> nod nod
[04:13:25] <takyon> yup
[04:13:33] <takyon> must be some annoyance with my checkbox handling
[04:14:04] <Bytram> maybe instead of a checkbox, you need to use a plaidbox?
[04:14:07] <Bytram> ;)
[04:14:14] <takyon> checkbox.setAttribute("onclick","if (this.checked=='true'){autosaveOff();} else {autosaveOn();}");
[04:14:28] <takyon> oh wow
[04:14:36] <takyon> there are quotes around the true keyword
[04:14:47] <takyon> that could be a problem
[04:15:05] <Bytram> Houston agrees
[04:16:49] <takyon> if this worked i may be done
[04:17:52] <takyon> yay
[04:18:26] <takyon> I have one remaining difficulty: I haven't extended autosave to the title. So typing in the title will do nothing
[04:23:55] <Bytram> is it possible to capture the title, but save it in the body text? at least it would not be lost completely
[04:25:08] <takyon> no, I added a similar onkeydown function to storyTitle
[04:25:12] <takyon> it saves just fine
[04:25:17] <Bytram> kewel
[04:25:30] <takyon> it was already saved before, it's just that retyping in the storyTitle input box wouldn't trigger autosave
[04:26:26] <Bytram> ahhh, got it.
[04:27:02] <takyon> now that I'm finished i'll do a screenshot
[04:27:08] <Bytram> autosave on each keystroke, or when leaving the title text entry field?
[04:27:12] <takyon> http://puu.sh
[04:27:27] <takyon> the "Saved." text is in mid-fade
[04:27:41] <takyon> the function will save all contents 3 seconds after you're finished typing
[04:27:58] <takyon> yup keystroke
[04:28:17] <takyon> if it was "onchange" it would be after the element has changed AND loses focus. but with onkeydown you get it as you're typing
[04:28:49] <Bytram> ahh, better than trying to trigger on whenever they leave the 'area'; e.g. mousedown on the 'Update' or 'Save' button
[04:29:14] <takyon> the screenshot should illustrate it pretty well
[04:29:35] <Bytram> ok, in a bit; am trying to push out a few stories
[04:29:41] <takyon> k
[04:31:41] <takyon> one more error to catch. discarding the draft doesn't uncheck the autosave box
[04:33:54] <takyon> and done
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[04:48:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - LISA Pathfinder Begins Gravitational Wave Detection Experiments in Space - http://sylnt.us
[04:49:58] <Bytram|away> ~gnight #Soylent
[04:50:00] * exec brazenly tosses a cheap plastic cup of gold nuggets to #Soylent
[04:50:38] <Bytram|away> ^^ sounds better than a goblet of plastic nuggets!
[04:50:50] <Bytram|away> ttfn
[04:57:22] <takyon> hey
[04:57:26] <takyon> what is that site with the texts
[04:57:28] <takyon> pastebin
[04:57:29] <takyon> thanks
[04:59:24] * Deucalion falls of the edge of the world.. be well
[05:00:35] <Gravis> Deucalion: i hardly think a chair qualifies as "the edge of the world"
[05:01:46] <takyon> updated extension
[05:01:49] <takyon> journal posted and all
[05:03:01] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[05:03:03] <NotAnymore> ^ 03SN journal Soylent Upgrade Greasemonkey/Tampermonkey extension v12 04(1 comments)
[05:18:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Lawyer and FBI Director Appear Before Congress - http://sylnt.us - get-all-the-crooks-in-one-place
[05:24:58] <takyon> https://photographyisnotacrime.com
[05:25:00] <NotAnymore> ^ 03New Jersey Crime Lab Tech Falsified Result, Suspended
[05:25:16] <takyon> "
[05:25:16] <takyon> A New Jersey Crime Lab technician was suspended with pay, after he was found writing down results of suspected marijuana, before the tests were even completed, throwing 7,827 criminal cases into doubt, damaging confidence in the workings of that state’s criminal justice system."
[05:43:54] <SirFinkus> "with pay"
[05:43:55] <SirFinkus> ok
[05:44:35] <takyon> oh wow didn't even notice that
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[06:49:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Neanderthal Fire-Making Tech Rediscovered - http://sylnt.us - burn-baby-burn
[07:07:24] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[07:07:24] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Is Donald Trump a Hillary Plant? - YouTube
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[07:32:59] <Ticho> did anyone make a joke about Trump having an inteligence of a plant in that latest story? it's practically begging for it
[07:33:33] <Ticho> ah, that's not a story, just an yt link, nevermind :)
[07:34:03] <Ticho> I was wondering why I can't see it in my feed reader
[07:35:38] <crutchy> nah it wasn't a SN story
[07:35:52] <crutchy> i just linked it cos it makes sense to me
[07:40:56] <arti> damn your logic
[07:40:59] * arti shakes fist
[08:20:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Activist-Comedian Interrupts VW Exec's Geneva Presentation to Install "Cheat Box" - http://sylnt.us - defeat-device
[09:01:07] * chromas suspects his firefox is broken
[09:01:26] <chromas> no history. can't even undo a tab close anymore
[09:01:48] * chromas blames Microsoft since SpallsHurgenson isn't here to do it
[09:04:34] <chromas> Bender: s/def.*/self-deprecating-humor-based-advertising/
[09:04:35] <sedctl> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Activist-Comedian Interrupts VW Exec's Geneva Presentation to Install "Cheat Box" - http://sylnt.us - self-deprecating-humor-based-advertising
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[09:50:19] * Subsentient contemplates leaving a seriously WTF link
[09:50:47] <Subsentient> chromas: http://efukt.com 4NSFW
[09:50:47] <NotAnymore> ^ 03eFukt.com | 1 Guy 1 Mousetrap
[09:52:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 520-Million-Year-Old Nervous System Discovered in C. kunmingensis Fossils - http://sylnt.us - what's-he-got-to-be-nervous-about
[09:53:30] <chromas> ooh; forgot about that site. some funny stuff
[10:51:29] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[10:51:30] <NotAnymore> ^ 03If God Became an SJW - YouTube
[11:53:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Which American City Has the Best Public Transportation? - http://sylnt.us - I-smell-stale-pee
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[12:12:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:12:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2314
[12:48:31] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[12:48:37] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:48:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2315
[12:48:43] <Bytram> !uid
[12:48:43] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6141, owned by butthurt
[12:48:58] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: g'mornin.
[12:57:20] <chromas> ~last nick=Bender until=yesterday message=^The current
[12:57:38] <chromas> (scrolling up is too hard)
[12:57:40] <cmn32480> ~gday #soylent
[12:57:43] * exec abrasively poops a used franger of CoC for #soylent
[12:57:55] <chromas> exec++ #multi-processing
[12:57:55] <Bender> karma - exec: 35
[12:58:40] * chromas theriouthly needs to move the db server to a bigger box
[12:59:29] <chromas> it's not doing much though. hm
[12:59:37] * chromas smacks the db
[13:01:40] <chromas> works from da web. /me systemctl restarts it
[13:02:50] <chromas> ~last nick=Bender until=yesterday message=^The current
[13:03:10] <exec> 03[2016-03-01 16:43:4] #Soylent <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6137, owned by liberza
[13:03:24] <chromas> I was sure it was butthurt last time
[13:03:36] * chromas is butthurt that it wasn't
[13:03:53] <Bytram> cmn32480: gday!
[13:04:34] <cmn32480> ~gday bytram
[13:04:36] * exec transphobically tosses a toilet bowl of skittles to bytram
[13:05:17] * Bytram likes the quantity proffered, but would prefer a different container
[13:05:30] <Bytram> it's the thought that counts, right?
[13:05:32] <Bytram> =)
[13:07:40] <Ticho> mmm, skittles
[13:07:51] <chromas> flush the rainbow!
[13:08:06] <Ticho> wonderful, wonderful colorful tooth cavity candy
[13:09:20] <cmn32480> yeah somebody has been adding lots to the gday script data file.. so there is a lot more variety now
[13:09:31] * cmn32480 looks at chromas with a gimlet eye
[13:11:16] <chromas> ~g'day >beverage gimlet
[13:11:19] <exec> added to beverages
[13:19:29] <cmn32480> coffee++
[13:19:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2316
[13:19:36] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[13:19:40] * exec fanatically slides a wad of dag to TheMightyBuzzard
[13:24:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Of Guns, Faith, and Scientific Truth - http://sylnt.us - more-doesn't-mean-more
[13:26:51] <Bytram> On getting there in style, in a hurry: http://arstechnica.com
[13:26:51] <NotAnymore> ^ 031479 horsepower, 261mph, $2.6 million: The new Bugatti Chiron | Ars Technica
[13:28:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~g'day cmn32480
[13:28:18] * exec clumsily blows a socket of string cheese at cmn32480
[13:28:23] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: g'day!
[13:28:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~g'day Bytram
[13:28:34] * exec prematurely passes a github of Debian to Bytram
[13:30:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeurg. forgot to drug up with my first cup o coffee this morning. dragging ass.
[13:33:39] * cmn32480 hands TheMightyBuzzard a wheelbarrow so his ass wont' drag
[13:37:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> got my doubly linked list working but now i don't remember exactly why i wanted it. just a vague recollection.
[13:37:33] <cmn32480> somethign for a bot or something
[13:38:01] <chromas> because you don't believe in arrays
[13:38:19] <cmn32480> arrays are a tool of the devil!
[13:38:21] <chromas> against your religion
[13:38:24] <chromas> exactly!
[13:38:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, arrays are fine but they don't come with push/pop/shift/unshift in C. my list does.
[13:38:58] <chromas> I dimensioned an array in church once
[13:39:00] <chromas> jesus wept
[13:39:06] <cmn32480> i didn't know Libertarianism was a religion
[13:39:08] <chromas> c--
[13:39:08] <Bender> karma - c: 51
[13:39:48] * chromas awaits a-$burrito-in'
[13:40:03] <cmn32480> $burrito chromas
[13:40:03] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at chromas
[13:40:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake chromas
[13:40:08] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a regex
[13:40:15] <cmn32480> ~shit chromas
[13:40:17] <exec> 05💩
[13:40:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> i need moar coffee
[13:40:30] <cmn32480> 💩
[13:40:31] <chromas> aqu4 could use some burrito flavor insertion technology
[13:40:32] * exec chucks a nasty sloppy dogshit at aqu4
[13:40:40] <chromas> random burritos
[13:43:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird. added code and got LESS ram usage on the bot than before.
[13:43:41] <chromas> your code's better than the std code
[13:44:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> random weirdness ftw
[13:44:29] <chromas> remember to compile with -O11
[13:44:57] <chromas> remember to compile with -O9000
[13:45:39] * chromas accidentally the up arrow
[13:51:32] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[13:51:33] <NotAnymore> ^ 03New state bill would let cops shoot down drones | Ars Technica
[13:51:43] <Bytram> what could possibly go wrong?
[13:51:49] <Bytram> break time -- afk
[13:53:29] <chromas> shoot disagreeable citizen; claim you were sure a drone was harrassing them and oops
[13:54:20] <chromas> or um, where does the bullet go after (if, even) it hits?
[13:55:08] <chromas> police need tiny rc-copter-seeking missiles
[14:56:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Department of Defense Invites You to "Hack the Pentagon" - http://sylnt.us - poke-the-bear
[15:09:50] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $697
[15:36:39] <paulej72> lumppy
[15:36:49] <cmn32480> smooooooooth
[16:23:44] <Subsentient> c++
[16:23:44] <Bender> karma - c: 52
[16:24:39] <Subsentient> chromas: cmn32480 TheMightyBuzzard: C is basically portable assembly. It contains memory allocation functions, but it does not come with a standard set of dynamically sizing data structures. You must use those allocation funtions to create your own.
[16:24:57] <Subsentient> C++, however, does come with std::list, std::vector, std::map, etc
[16:26:30] <Subsentient> And C++ is a superset of C (except for a very short list of easily fixable incompatibilities)
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[16:46:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[16:48:09] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: The reason I'm writing libcpsl is that I prefer C99 for most of my work, but I get real sick of writing the same data structures over and over again.
[16:48:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't blame ya
[16:49:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> reusable code is a godsend
[16:49:27] <Subsentient> C is a more permissive, more easygoing, far easier to master language that has had some features that C++ didn't get till C++11 and some that C++ *still* doesn't have.
[16:49:46] <Subsentient> Designated initializers are a gift from god.
[16:50:51] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[16:51:45] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Sure, C++ is far better for OOP, but C has a 'git r done' mentality I find quite appealing. But, that said, the C++ standard template library is actually pretty cool, and operator overloading can be quite useful.
[16:52:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima have a smoke then try and figure out what to do about not being able to get the perl stack pointer from a different thread than i started the perl interpreter in.
[16:52:17] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: How are you doing threads?
[16:52:23] <Subsentient> Or are you doing fork()?
[16:52:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> pthread
[16:53:57] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: You should be able to share pointers between threads.
[16:54:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be able to but a lot of what ya gotta do with perl is hidden in macros so i can't really tell wtf is going on
[16:54:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, nicotine. back in 10ish
[16:57:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Call for Research after Drone Near-Misses in the UK - http://sylnt.us - close-calls-are-too-close-for-comfort
[17:01:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... it occurs to me i might be trying to get perl's stack pointer before i fire up the perl interpreter.
[17:05:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, can't be. i'm not spinning off that thread until the event_connect event fires.
[17:28:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, there's nothing wrong with that function itself. it has to be how it's being called that makes the difference.
[17:30:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> i suppose i could throw ALL perl processing into that thread... should clear up any threading issues.
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[17:43:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, that's exactly it. try accessing the perl interpreter from a different thread and you get a fun little segfault.
[17:45:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, gonna have to move all the direct working with perl to one thread. good thing i built that linked list to pass messages with.
[17:45:15] * TheMightyBuzzard afks
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[18:05:55] <L> hi
[18:07:20] * Subsentient farts
[18:07:39] <L> :|
[18:07:45] <Subsentient> L: :^)
[18:07:50] <Subsentient> L: Wassup
[18:08:02] <L> hi.. not much
[18:08:25] <L> It's a bit quiet in here!
[18:18:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> lunch time here, paying attention to the oven.
[18:18:57] <Subsentient> L: Sometimes, like now, but not always or even usually.
[18:19:23] <L> Was here a while ago
[18:19:30] <L> like a month
[18:19:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh?
[18:20:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, right.
[18:20:18] <L> yea
[18:20:31] <L> I'm from Northern Ireland
[18:21:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. that i remember.
[18:21:17] <L> oooo
[18:21:45] * TheMightyBuzzard waits impatiently on his lunch to cool down enough to eat
[18:22:24] <L> pizza
[18:22:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, biscuits
[18:22:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> out of pizza right now
[18:22:55] <L> biscuits in the oven ?
[18:23:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> proper american biscuits. not british biscuits which are actually cookies.
[18:23:42] <L> Not cookies are a type of biscuit
[18:24:13] <takyon> what do you do with your biscuits
[18:24:24] <L> eat them
[18:24:25] <takyon> and do you take them out before they are fully baked to get that doughy center?
[18:24:49] <takyon> also I thought you were a Unicode box character for a second there, L
[18:24:59] <L> I don't make them.. I just buy them
[18:25:16] <L> I dunno what that is :/
[18:25:47] <takyon> https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:25:48] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Wiki: Box-drawing character ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[18:28:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Not a Myth: The Amount of Rain Depends (Slightly) on the Phase of the Moon - http://sylnt.us - still-falls-mainly-on-the-plain-in-Spain
[18:29:21] <L> hmmm...no
[18:29:39] <L> L because my name is laura
[18:30:31] <takyon> hi Laura
[18:31:16] <L> hi
[18:31:57] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[18:31:58] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Donald Trump Looms Large — Even Among Observers Looking On From Germany : NPR
[18:32:18] <takyon> >>>subtle godwin<<<
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[18:33:29] <chromas> I thought Germans weren't allowed to godwin
[18:33:57] <takyon> they may be uniquely qualified to godwin
[18:34:01] <Ticho> they aren't, they can only godlose
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[18:34:19] <takyon> i might as well listen to it since it's 3m of audio
[18:34:44] * chromas hot-unplugs beeping HDD; /home goes ro; watches things start tossing errors, but not many salads
[18:39:00] <l> hmmm
[18:39:07] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[18:39:07] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Samsung is now shipping a 15TB whopper of an SSD. Farewell, spinning rust • The Register
[18:39:25] <takyon> ^ relevant
[18:40:13] <chromas> I will soon get me an ssd
[18:40:53] <chromas> These things'd been iffy before, but I set them off when I ran f@h at max for awhile and apparently my cooling setup sucks
[18:41:06] <chromas> It's my understanding hardware doesn't care for much heat
[18:41:18] <l> :|
[18:41:38] <chromas> Hm, why do SSDs always come in 2½"?
[18:42:50] <takyon> because they don't need a lot of room to store a ton of data
[18:42:58] <takyon> so that they can be put into almost all laptops
[18:43:01] <chromas> Well, then why do I need more than one?
[18:43:22] <takyon> it might be cheaper than 3.5" versions
[18:43:27] * chromas notes the classic addage—bigger = better
[18:43:38] <takyon> that kind of relates to this article:
[18:43:48] <takyon> http://www.nextplatform.com
[18:43:49] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Google Seeks Better Spinning Rust
[18:44:06] <chromas> And one more whiny complaint: Android 6's lockscreen is retarded
[18:44:11] <takyon> "Interestingly, Google is also arguing for a change in the form factor of disk drives, and questions whether the 2.5-inch and 3.5-inch form factors that dominate the industry are necessarily the right size. Given that Google wants a mix of high capacity and high IOPS across its collectives, it might want to see a move back to 5.25-inch and 1.8-inch platters, sizes that have been used in the past in the industry."
[18:44:47] <takyon> http://www.nasa.gov
[18:44:48] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Best Year In Space Photographs from Scott Kelly | NASA
[18:44:59] <chromas> That'd be neat. So long as they don't get shaken too much , I don't see why we can't have 15 or so platters in an hdd
[18:45:14] <chromas> waste less space with all the cases
[18:45:25] <chromas> they could have built-in heatpipes and stuff
[18:45:58] <chromas> neat photos
[18:46:01] <Bytram> chromas: run the heatpipe through the spindle!
[18:46:16] <Bytram> ;)
[18:46:26] <chromas> Good idea! That's where all the heat comes from, right?
[18:47:27] <chromas> And there was just an article about helium or something coming to most HDDs, so they should get a boost over SSDs again
[18:47:28] * Bytram remembers the trusty 300MB 13" RK05(?) removable disk packs with with about a dozen completely-exposed platters
[18:47:42] <chromas> Sounds dirty
[18:48:16] <chromas> I suppose the gap size was much larger back then
[18:48:43] <Bytram> and so was the 'fly height' of the read heads!
[18:49:07] <chromas> Say, Mr Expert sir, in old movies like Wargames, what were the washing machines? Were those computers too? Or just storage?
[18:49:18] <l> It's cooooold
[18:49:27] <Bytram> I ain't no expert!
[18:49:56] <chromas> You were there and programming them I'm sure. I was 0 then
[18:50:15] <Bytram> I don't remember the 'washing machines'... just the Altair (8080?) and the 'WOPR'(sp?) and all the blinkenlights it had
[18:50:18] <chromas> It's toasty here. I need a fan
[18:50:26] <Bytram> chromas++
[18:50:26] <Bender> karma - chromas: 158
[18:50:29] <Bytram> I'm a fan!
[18:50:38] <Bytram> bah dum, tish!
[18:50:39] <l> Where are u?
[18:50:51] <Bytram> northeast USA
[18:50:56] <l> oo
[18:50:57] <Bytram> ~weather ireland
[18:51:00] <exec> 10Dublin, Ireland - currently 42°F, cloudy, wind W at 19 mph, humidity 85% - Thursday rain (31°F:48°F), Friday rain and snow (37°F:45°F), Saturday partly cloudy (32°F:45°F), Sunday showers (34°F:44°F)
[18:51:08] <l> Belfast?
[18:51:18] <Bytram> not sayin.
[18:51:21] <Bytram> but...
[18:51:26] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[18:51:29] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 31°F, mostly sunny, wind NW at 10 mph, humidity 19% - Thursday partly cloudy (25°F:33°F), Friday cloudy (26°F:36°F), Saturday partly cloudy (29°F:39°F), Sunday rain and snow (28°F:41°F)
[18:51:32] <l> I'm about 20 miles above belfast
[18:51:32] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[18:51:36] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 27°F, sunny, wind NW at 14 mph, humidity 25% - Thursday sunny (12°F:27°F), Friday cloudy (18°F:32°F), Saturday mostly sunny (21°F:37°F), Sunday cloudy (25°F:40°F)
[18:51:37] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[18:51:39] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 6°F, partly cloudy, wind W at 25 mph, humidity 46% - Thursday cloudy (-10°F:6°F), Friday mostly sunny (-7°F:20°F), Saturday mostly sunny (-1°F:26°F), Sunday mostly cloudy (11°F:32°F)
[18:51:50] <l> ooooo
[18:51:54] <Bytram> ~weather belfast, ireland
[18:51:56] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[18:51:59] <l> We had snow yesterday
[18:52:04] <Bytram> brr
[18:54:46] <chromas> http://sysrun.haifa.il.ibm.com
[18:54:57] <chromas> Must be these tape drives I'm thinkin' of
[18:55:41] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:56:17] * Bytram has used the ones in the back; at the time, they either had 1800bpi or 6250bpi (Bits Per Inch) and, IIRC, were 2400 feet long
[18:56:19] <chromas> Seems like a lot of overhead. Is that all just the toys needed to encode digits to tape?
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[18:58:17] <chromas> http://www.originalprop.com
[18:58:18] <NotAnymore> ^ 03?Shall We Play A Game?? Original IMSAI 8080 Computer Movie Prop from WarGames to be Sold
[18:58:37] <takyon> i
[18:58:39] <takyon> i
[18:58:52] * chromas suspects this link was dropped here a couple years ago
[18:58:53] <takyon> i'm sure some eccentric silicon valley type will lay down a million or two on that prop
[18:59:38] <Bytram> there's quite the story behind it -- it's creation and use
[18:59:57] * Bytram doesn't have the link close to hand but I do recall when a story ran about its being sold off
[19:00:26] <Bytram> the IMSAI 8080 was a fun little box; 8" floppy disk drives... HUGE!
[19:00:58] <chromas> See, we need 8" blu-ray discs
[19:01:04] <chromas> or 12", why not
[19:01:35] <chromas> 8K volumetric 3d porns
[19:01:59] <Bytram> holographic storage! cf: tamarack
[19:02:01] <Bytram> =)
[19:02:31] * cmn32480 doesn't have a tv with that kind of resolution
[19:03:00] <chromas> I recall seeing a few articles on /. popping up every once in a while about CBS or whoever doing holographic storage. Still waiting
[19:03:15] <chromas> Probably never materialized because nobody watches CBS
[19:03:39] <cmn32480> it's like Fusion... perpetually 10 years away
[19:03:46] <chromas> CSI: Mass Storage
[19:04:01] <chromas> oh yeah and batteries
[19:04:20] <chromas> I wonder if someone keeps a running list of things perpetually-around-the-corner
[19:05:10] <Bytram> it has often been thought about, but the implementation of the list is also just around the corner!
[19:05:18] <Bytram> =)
[19:05:26] <cmn32480> all us nerds do it collectively
[19:05:32] <cmn32480> lol
[19:07:32] <Bytram> http://link.springer.com
[19:08:12] <Bytram> http://www.industryweek.com
[19:08:15] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Tamarack Storage Devices Inc.Austin Tx
[19:08:21] <chromas> 30GB? Sign me up!
[19:08:27] <Bytram> lol
[19:08:28] <takyon> let's see what wikipedia says about holographic storage
[19:08:33] <takyon> something about bits per electron
[19:09:07] * Bytram remembers hearing about tamarack back in '93 -- that was when a DEC alpha was a bleeding-edge machine
[19:10:06] <takyon> "By superimposing images of different wavelengths into the same hologram, a Stanford research team was able to achieve a bit density of 35 bit/electron (approximately 3 Exabytes/in^2.)"
[19:10:13] <takyon> https://en.wikipedia.org(computer_storage)#Research
[19:10:13] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Wiki: Areal density (computer storage) ( https://en.wikipedia.org(computer_storage) )
[19:10:25] <Bytram> takyon: that sounds pretty dense
[19:10:34] <takyon> hahhhfhahahahfahhfddfiiashahahahah
[19:13:14] <chromas> "It's so dense, every single image has so many things going on."
[19:15:41] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
[19:15:43] <exec> 072303
[19:17:57] <Bytram> biab afk
[19:28:02] <Bytram> #submit https://www.sciencedaily.com "By pushing the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope to its limits astronomers have shattered the cosmic distance record by measuring the distance to the most remote galaxy ever seen in the Universe. This galaxy existed just 400 million years after the Big Bang and provides new insights into the first generation of galaxies. This is the first time that the distance of an
[19:28:03] <Bytram> object so far away has been measured from its spectrum, which makes the measurement extremely reliable. The results will be published in the Astrophysical Journal."
[19:28:03] <MrPlow> Unable to get a title from that page
[19:28:11] <Bytram> :(
[19:29:12] <chromas> "Federal Bureau of Investigation: Agency Says Its Error Locked San Bernardino, Calif., Suspect's Phone"
[19:29:25] * chromas notices a missing apostrophe
[19:29:40] <chromas> I'm not sure MrPlow actually takes a custom summary string
[19:29:46] <Bytram> it does
[19:29:50] <chromas> which was also broken into two messages, by the way
[19:29:59] <Bytram> I noticed.
[19:30:13] <Bytram> where do you see an apostrophe missing
[19:30:16] <chromas> Ah, wasn't sure if it'd show up that way on your end
[19:30:22] <Bytram> ahh, yep.
[19:30:26] <chromas> oh, in the headline I pasted; not yours
[19:30:32] <Bytram> I don't know how much will fit, so I give it plenty =)
[19:30:35] <Bytram> nograb
[19:30:45] <chromas> I think it's around 430 bytes or so
[19:31:08] <chromas> Maybe 420 because kobach was a heavy bacon toker
[19:31:59] <chromas> Mars should invent non-milk-chocolate M&Ms
[19:32:05] <chromas> milk_chocolate--
[19:32:05] <Bender> karma - milk_chocolate: -2
[20:11:22] <Bytram> #submit http://arstechnica.com
[20:11:24] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[20:11:54] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
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[20:55:57] <mythterj> How NOT to write a headline: http://www.pressdemocrat.com
[20:55:57] <NotAnymore> ^ 03'Miraculous' cache of 7 century-old baseball cards found | The Press Democrat
[20:57:10] <chromas> ~is it because of the scarequotes?
[20:57:30] <chromas> Or because of the missing hypen after "7"?
[20:57:40] * chromas can't sphell
[20:58:36] <Bytram> the baseball cards are, obviously, seven centuries old!
[20:58:40] <Bytram> =)
[20:58:44] <mythterj> The deliberate ambiguity...
[21:00:01] <chromas> Should be 7 miraculous century-old baseball cards you won't beliebe! Collectors hate this guy!
[21:00:22] <Bytram> LOL!
[21:05:53] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
[21:05:55] <exec> 072302
[21:06:17] <chromas> 461 to go
[21:06:29] <Bytram> that does not look right.
[21:07:01] <lopple> decapitating and the groups factory
[21:07:38] <chromas> 'til we beat beta
[21:07:45] <chromas> though they are dormant
[21:08:01] * chromas groups factories
[21:08:26] <Bytram> only 115 more points and we'd be at 2301
[21:11:00] <Bytram> next update (in 171 minutes) should have us at better than 2294
[21:12:38] <Bytram> chromas: where is beta at?
[21:13:57] <Bytram> based on historical results, we should be at about 2220 or so at this time tomorrow
[21:22:27] <chromas> http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[21:22:27] <NotAnymore> ^ 03slashdot - Team Summary - EXTREME Overclocking Folding @ Home Stats
[21:25:44] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[21:25:45] <NotAnymore> ^ 03New attack steals secret crypto keys from Android and iOS phones | Ars Technica
[21:31:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cave Salamander Begins Laying Eggs - http://sylnt.us - Awlo-of-...-Olm?
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[22:20:46] <cmn32480> Exec is gonna shut down for a bit. I'm moving offices...
[22:20:59] <cmn32480> ~q
[22:21:03] <cmn32480> ~quit
[22:21:05] <exec> successfully saved buckets file (73.6 kb)
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[22:32:11] <cmn32480> ~folding-rank
[22:32:14] <exec> 072302
[22:34:30] <cmn32480> ~funding
[22:34:35] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $697
[22:34:49] <cmn32480> and exec is back online!
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[22:44:09] <Bytram|away> time for a nap, and then some errands
[22:44:12] <Bytram|away> laters!
[23:02:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UN Security Council Unanimously Imposes Sanctions on North Korea - http://sylnt.us - stop-doing-that!
[23:10:07] <chromas> ~join #folding
[23:52:25] <Gravis> well as long as we are giving arbitrary orders...
[23:52:37] <Gravis> ~rebel against chromas
[23:53:49] <Gravis> no sense of humor! https://soylentnews.org
[23:53:50] <NotAnymore> ^ 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:1, Offtopic)
[23:54:20] <Gravis> oh well
[23:59:09] <takyon> hi
[23:59:59] <Gravis> shikata ga nai