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[23:50:06] <Balactus> Ancient powers render me upstoppable. Now, where are there worlds for me to destroy?
[23:49:37] <Balactus> http://i.imgur.com
[23:49:23] <Balactus> Behold, my likeness
[23:49:20] <Balactus> I am Balactus, destroyer of worlds
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[23:25:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Antifreeze Proteins Hinder the Growth of Ice Crystals - http://sylnt.us - do-these-come-freeze-dried?
[23:21:15] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Pirates on the high seas are hacking ship computers first - MarketWatch
[23:21:14] <takyon> http://www.marketwatch.com
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[22:43:35] <Bytram|away> have a good day everyone!
[22:43:30] <Bytram|away> nap time and then off to run some errands
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[22:00:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes but i stole his line so i figured it was worth saying
[22:00:30] <swiss> he died a while ago
[22:00:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> RIP Alan Rickman
[21:59:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> spoon bomb. it's dull. it will hurt more.
[21:59:05] <paulej72> fork bomb ftw
[21:58:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, time to make the ole bot multi-threaded.
[21:57:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. yeah, shouldn't be too traumatic then.
[21:57:35] <paulej72> mostly. they just need to clean out the temp packing, it is real quick
[21:57:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> already all drilled?
[21:57:04] <Bytram> paulej72: best of luck!
[21:56:53] <paulej72> probably will not need novicain
[21:56:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yerk. luck to ya.
[21:56:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> laziness should always be encouraged. it's lead to some truly spectacular labor-saving invention.
[21:56:11] <paulej72> well I am off to the dentist. Need to get my root canal finalized with a filling
[21:54:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas not a bad idea
[21:54:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Meet the Man on the Other End of "Houston, We Have a Problem" - http://sylnt.us - rocketman
[21:54:11] <Ticho> I hope you give the bot nickname like ProcrastiBot then :)
[21:53:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ticho, also, it's a handy way to avoid working on the site when that strikes me as something i wanna do.
[21:52:20] <sedctl> <Ticho> eh, I do too much coding already to care about such rites of passage :)
[21:52:20] <Ticho> s/enough/too much/
[21:51:58] <Ticho> eh, I do enough coding already to care about such rites of passage :)
[21:51:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> so i'm rewriting most of him in C and leaving the parts that perl is better suited to an embedded perl interpreter.
[21:50:48] <Bytram> understood. just thinking outside the [processing] box.
[21:50:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, be easier to use a fifo for that but i wanna keep it self-contained.
[21:49:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> MrPlow is mine but he hogs up too much memory cause everything is done in perl
[21:49:13] <Bytram> maybe use a cron job to periodically run the timer-dependent code which would send the info to a file. Your mainline code would just read the file as needed; latest stuff comes in automagically. =)
[21:48:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> bit of a right of passage around here to build your own bot.
[21:47:56] <Ticho> I'd just use eggdrop back when I needed bots :)
[21:46:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> this is getting mildly complicated for a silly little irc bot.
[21:45:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, it looks like the easiest way to build a timer would be spin off another thread.
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[21:44:51] <Bytram> could even use sub's to generate different parts of it; then string the subs together to generate the entire page.
[21:41:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is why they should use perl
[21:41:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> and everyone wants more $s
[21:41:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> and with more $s
[21:37:36] <paulej72> but more elegant
[21:37:23] <paulej72> output = output."<div class='".$sid
[21:36:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> be more efficient too.
[21:36:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> or that'd work as well.
[21:36:05] <paulej72> all of the template code could be doen in perl, you would just have a lot of sring concats
[21:36:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause of all the html you'd have to put directly in them. though i spose you could slurp it from a variable if you wanted to.
[21:35:23] <paulej72> why would there be five mile long regexes
[21:34:17] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders the five mile long regexs and shudders
[21:32:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was just fuckin with ya anyway. it'd render faster and yes it could be cached both what was formerly in templates and calls to the db but it'd make for some oogly freakin source.
[21:32:10] <sedctl> <paulej72> yes, no which ever is more augumentitive
[21:32:10] <paulej72> s/not/no/
[21:31:09] <paulej72> yes, not which ever is more augumentitive
[21:30:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, are you arguing?
[21:30:18] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: movng from templates will break intrnaltionization
[21:30:10] <Gravis> ;)
[21:30:08] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you eat chicken shit?
[21:29:33] <paulej72> If you think that will work out better. Will we be able to catch everything that way TheMightyBuzzard ?
[21:29:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, can't be helped. you are what you eat.
[21:28:30] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i argued the facts and you pussied out.
[21:28:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, i'm gonna go ahead and do away with the templating system and go back to _hard_disp_comment exclusively.
[21:28:02] <cmn32480> certainly does for Ticho and myself
[21:27:57] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: we never argue, what you talking about
[21:27:55] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: arguing just to argue? nice cop out.
[21:27:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> it kills the boredom a bit.
[21:27:29] <cmn32480> I got trail mix.. but the point is the same
[21:27:22] <Gravis> cmn32480: it's for your benefit :)
[21:27:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ticho, nah, we're to the point that we argue just to be arguing sometimes.
[21:27:14] <Ticho> actually, walnuts over here :)
[21:26:57] <cmn32480> the onyl real winners are those of us watching with popcorn
[21:26:36] <Ticho> the fun thing about internet arguments is that both sides always lose, yet each thinks it won :)
[21:26:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, no, go right ahead. i give you leave to win.
[21:25:41] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: no need to be a sore loser.
[21:25:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy yourself a victory lap then. i'll get back to figuring out how to implement a timed event in C for my bot.
[21:24:33] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: it's fine
[21:24:30] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i get it. i have you cornered and you don't want to admit defeat.
[21:24:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're not arguing logic, you're just arguing. the two are not the same.
[21:23:34] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: hey, i'm just arguing logic. you are the one dismissing everythign.
[21:23:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, you need to get off the peyote. i think you're hallucinating.
[21:22:28] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: it's right there. how can you not see it?
[21:22:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> m'kay. done. now which one of those sentences contained a fact?
[21:21:51] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: scroll up
[21:21:44] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: yes i did. you must have missed it.
[21:21:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> you've provided no facts to base your logic on
[21:21:12] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: what, so you can't argue the logic? you are giving up?
[21:21:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> the fart noise not the itty bitty computer
[21:20:36] * TheMightyBuzzard sticks his tongue out at Gravis and blows him a raspberry
[21:20:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> which i can appreciate.
[21:20:14] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: and?
[21:20:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, now you're just being childish.
[21:19:54] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: yes it can.
[21:19:46] <Gravis> see, easy
[21:19:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> if they're not based on facts, then logic cannot be applied.
[21:19:43] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i have factual knowledge that you are wrong.
[21:19:23] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: and?
[21:19:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> without exception
[21:19:09] <cmn32480> stupid scroolll
[21:19:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> all systems of morality are either manufactured or based on faith rather than evidence.
[21:19:02] * exec accidentally hurls a wine flute of beer at crutchy
[21:19:00] <cmn32480> ~gday crutchy
[21:18:55] * exec brazenly slides a buzz saw of bewb to crutchy
[21:18:53] <cmn32480> ~gday crutchy
[21:18:50] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i can
[21:18:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> as far as i'm aware, nobody can claim that with factual knowledge.
[21:17:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> go for it. won't hurt my feelings. i'm quite happy to argue morality without saying my morality holds some great underlying truth.
[21:16:22] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i'll be sure to remind you of that when someone does something that bothers you.
[21:16:12] <Bytram> gigo
[21:15:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can use reason with emotions and it may look logical but if your foundation is ephemeral what you are doing is not logic.
[21:14:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> correct. logic and morality do not interact. one is based on emotions, the other is not.
[21:13:52] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: but only ethically. logically there is nothing wrong with just murdering people for fun.
[21:13:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> see above re: questionable
[21:13:12] <exec> 072526
[21:13:10] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
[21:13:05] <Bytram> crutchy: hope the headache passes soon... have a great day!
[21:12:07] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so you agree that any and all actions may be excused?
[21:11:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, the logic is sound. the ethicalness of using it is however questionable.
[21:10:21] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: that's fine but it's still faulty logic
[21:09:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, i primarily use it for laziness.
[21:09:07] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: by that logic you can excuse any cruel action.
[21:08:02] <crutchy> haf fun o/
[21:07:56] <crutchy> in the meantime i still gotta pay bills and feed kids
[21:07:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, productivity is pointless. in the end the universe is still going to die to entropy.
[21:06:50] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Don’t be fooled by those ‘No HFCS’ claims on ‘new’ Pop Tarts | Food Identity Theft
[21:06:44] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: http://foodidentitytheft.com
[21:06:42] <crutchy> hope my fuckin headache goes away or ima not going to be very productive :\
[21:06:24] <crutchy> better go to workipoos
[21:05:20] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: same here... I'm about 25 lbs underweight -- I only eat 6-8 pop tarts at one sitting.
[21:05:01] <crutchy> those damn chemists. fooling everyone about... chemistry :p
[21:04:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> either way, given the amount of refined sugar i don't eat, it's not an issue.
[21:04:37] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you are easily fooled by chemists
[21:04:25] <crutchy> i'm going to need new pants soon though cos my old ones are tight. i weighed myself last week and i was 73 kg
[21:03:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> sugar, you can see the crystals. HFCS does not do that, even dehydrated.
[21:03:14] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: what do you think is in pop tarts, the expensive stuff?
[21:03:10] <crutchy> they give me a gut ache
[21:03:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> HFCS rather
[21:03:06] <crutchy> i get full from sodas very quickly
[21:02:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> HCFC does not, which is why you can guzzle down sodas and such without ever getting full.
[21:02:33] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: actually, i know that's a myth.
[21:02:30] <crutchy> and diet is only one half; exercise is another
[21:02:13] <crutchy> it depends entirely on the individual
[21:02:12] <Ticho> gorging myself on chocolate as we speak :)
[21:02:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, you're unaware that sucrose suppresses the appetite far in excess of the calories it contains then?
[21:02:03] <Ticho> me too, actually
[21:01:57] <crutchy> i've been eating unhealthy shit for over a decade and i'm a skinny runt
[21:01:51] <Gravis> you would have to have a high metabolic rate to avoid weight gain
[21:01:29] <crutchy> Gravis, wtf are you talking about now dude?
[21:00:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> while i am an occasional fan, i do gotta side with strudels in the eternal battle.
[21:00:38] <Gravis> no, having enough other food to not be hungry would exceed almost anyone's Calorie DV andto denying yourself the food needed to not be hungry would put your body in starvation mode.
[20:59:28] <crutchy> though i think i remember hearing about them as a kid
[20:59:17] <crutchy> i dunno if i ever had pop tarts
[20:58:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends entirely on what else you eat
[20:57:46] <Gravis> one packet daily is enough for weight gain
[20:57:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> eat two instead of a whole box and you're probably safe.
[20:57:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> only if you eat tons of them
[20:57:03] <Gravis> pop tarts will make you fat
[20:56:15] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[20:55:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed.
[20:55:36] <nick> pop tarts ftw
[20:55:32] <nick> nice
[20:55:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> did it up american style though. tea with pop tarts.
[20:54:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, i stole tea time from you lot yesterday cause i was hungry between lunch and dinner.
[20:54:12] <nick> you stole someones tea?
[20:52:57] <Bender> karma - stolenteatime: 1
[20:52:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> stolenteatime++
[20:50:36] <crutchy> apparently it has nobility. if only we could all be so lucky :p
[20:42:54] <nick> i recall reading about helium drives a while ago
[20:42:01] <crutchy> wouldn't helium gradually leak out?
[20:23:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Western Digital Fills its Hard Drive Lineups with Helium - http://sylnt.us - less-boom-for-your-buck-than-hydrogen
[20:18:39] <exec> 072534
[20:18:37] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
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[19:14:02] <Ticho> heh, a post to the debian-security mailing list: "Unsubscribe me or I will spam your list"
[19:04:39] <nick> the words on the pages are apparently not good enough, they have to match if they're a series!
[19:04:17] <nick> although i doubt i'll ever stop her wanting all her books to be in matching sets
[19:03:05] <nick> but she's learning :p
[19:03:01] <nick> AndyTheAbsurd: the future mrs nick is quite keen on stuff, so i do have that to contend with too
[19:02:04] <nick> has roof racks, but i dont think thats cheating
[19:01:55] <nick> i can fit everything i own into my estate car
[19:01:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think I'd be happier if I could fit everything I owned into my truck...and I have a small truck.
[19:00:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> I need to have less stuff. But having a wife that forms attachments to things easily and is difficult to convince that she *really* *really* doesn't need that tends to lead to accumulation.
[18:58:13] * nick has no stuff except work stuff
[18:58:00] <nick> peak stuff indeed
[18:51:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Uses 33% Less Stuff Than in 2001 - http://sylnt.us - less-stuff-means-smaller-houses
[18:51:41] <Bytram> =)
[18:51:39] <Bytram> lol. from "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress": "Not good?" "Very not good."
[18:50:15] <Ticho> double plus good! :)
[18:50:13] <CoolHand> logical AND illogical at once
[18:50:06] <Bytram> ROFL!!!!!!!!
[18:49:56] <Ticho> maybe it just means twice as logical as merely "logical" :)
[18:49:32] <CoolHand> :)
[18:49:05] <Bytram> join the klub!
[18:49:01] <Bytram> lol
[18:48:47] <CoolHand> (I may be but just not in this case)
[18:48:41] <CoolHand> ok, just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy..
[18:48:05] <Bytram> beware Muphry's Law!
[18:47:53] <Bytram> BiOlogical
[18:47:44] <Bytram> yep
[18:47:30] <CoolHand> I think we need a [sic]
[18:47:22] <CoolHand> I was seconding that ice crystals story.. in title, is "Bilogical" a word? It has it that way in the article title, but I"ve never heard of it, and don't google it
[18:46:58] <Bytram> howz thingz?
[18:46:47] <Bytram> =)
[18:46:47] <CoolHand> hey!
[18:46:44] <Bytram> CoolHand:
[18:46:34] <CoolHand> Bytram:
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[18:42:08] <Bender> karma - chivito_and_cerveza: 1
[18:42:08] <nick> chivito_and_cerveza++
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[18:25:53] <Bytram> whew!
[18:25:39] * Bytram tested a COBOL compiler which resulting in my writing programs to generate COBOL programs covering all syntactic variations on all procedure division statements
[18:19:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> that was plenty.
[18:19:12] * AndyTheAbsurd has written exactly two programs in COBOL
[18:18:29] * Bytram shudders when he recalls coding in FORTRAN and COBOL -- upper-case-only :P
[18:17:35] * Bytram has made the transition a few times... kinda prefer the case-sensitive one better.
[18:16:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yup, just one of those gotchas you've got to be aware of when switching from a case-insensitive OS to a case-sensitive one.
[18:16:30] * Runaway1956 is going to lose himself in some mindless pulp fiction
[18:16:16] <Bytram> =)
[18:16:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> the 2nd on returns /usr/snbin/dkms on my system, the 1st returns nothing.
[18:16:13] <Bytram> both came up empty
[18:15:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> 'which DKMS' is not the same as 'which dkms'
[18:15:40] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 23
[18:15:40] <Bytram> teamwork++
[18:15:28] <Runaway1956> np
[18:15:14] <Bytram> thanks SO MUCH!
[18:15:09] <Bytram> nice!
[18:14:49] <Runaway1956> Cool - you probably got it all then
[18:14:31] <Bytram> "which DKMS" did not find anything
[18:13:46] * Bytram just ran "sudo apt-get autoclean -" but saw no diffrence in free disk space
[18:13:40] <Runaway1956> but autoclean really ought to get most if not all of that nonsense
[18:13:21] <Runaway1956> I don't remember how to ask DKMS to clean things up though
[18:13:08] <Runaway1956> Do you have DKMS installed? If so - you may have some loose modules lying around, compiled for various kernels that you've just deleted
[18:12:03] <Runaway1956> Cool - amazing what a little housekeeping does, huh?
[18:11:39] <Bytram> at one point, /boot was down to 2624 free; and now seeing: 126264 free =)
[18:10:22] * Runaway1956 has no debians installed at the moment to look
[18:09:56] <Runaway1956> I think just the autoclean should do it - type apt-get --help for some hints
[18:09:33] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:09:28] <Bytram> should I do BOTH clean AND autoclean?
[18:09:24] * Runaway1956 notes that although Linux file systems don't fragment like Windows, Linux still runs better with some free space
[18:08:13] <Bytram> now removing *55 and that will be enough for this run
[18:08:03] <Bytram> k
[18:07:49] <Runaway1956> after everything else is done - purge should get rid of all the packages and stuff lying around, but autoclean will ensure that it did
[18:07:18] <Bytram> do I do that now, or at th end?
[18:06:59] <Bytram> Runaway1956: df reports: /dev/sda1 240972
[18:06:55] <Runaway1956> don't forget apt-get clean or apt-get autoclean -
[18:05:59] <Bytram> I'm doing a 'sudo apt-get autoremove' after each one of these, only found something with *33
[18:05:01] <Runaway1956> how big IS your virtual drive?
[18:04:52] <Runaway1956> No problemo -
[18:04:35] <Bytram> Runaway1956: TheMightyBuzzard: thanks bunches for hte help!
[18:04:20] <Bytram> now to *53
[18:04:16] <Bytram> done. freed up 200MB
[18:03:34] <Runaway1956> don't pay the ferryman though
[18:03:09] * Bytram removes *51
[18:03:02] <Bytram> btw, 3.16.0.62 had barfed when I tried to install it earlier (out of disk space; hence this discussion) -- completion of the prior remove resulted in *62 completing its install! !woop
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[18:02:34] <Runaway1956> although it *can* lead you into trouble if you forget that you're root
[18:02:08] * Runaway1956 likes su better than sudo
[18:01:44] <Runaway1956> heh - that will work too
[18:01:39] <Bytram> sweet! worked like a charm, once I did *sudo* apt-get autoremove
[17:58:44] * Bytram notes to self: apt-get autoremove to remove them
[17:57:40] <Bytram> changd mind; going with *33 instead of *51
[17:57:27] <Bytram> Pppphhhhbbbt
[17:55:18] <cmn32480> IRC spammers... sheesh....
[17:55:11] <cmn32480> #qa is a different channel....
[17:54:52] * Bytram is about to issue the command: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.16.0.51-generic
[17:53:58] * Bytram opens a new terminal
[17:53:15] <Bytram> okay, found my window with the list of kernels
[17:51:31] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:51:28] <Runaway1956> Doesn't matter at all - they are all independent
[17:51:24] <Bytram> k
[17:51:19] <Bytram> iow, they are comepletely independent?
[17:51:14] <Runaway1956> Then you might consider purging unused applications
[17:51:06] <Bytram> I'm just gonna start witht he first one... I'm assuming the order I delete them does not matter?
[17:50:41] <Bytram> since I've got 7 of 'em at the moment, I think deleteing the first 4 should be sufficient atm
[17:50:21] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:50:17] * Bytram has deleted whole file trees a few too many times
[17:50:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> what I generally do is to purge all but the current and most recent kernel versions
[17:50:00] <Bytram> oh, no problem there!
[17:49:51] <Runaway1956> Just be damn sure you don't use the currently running kernel for x.x.x.x.
[17:49:48] <Bytram> *twice, even!
[17:49:41] <Bytram> measure twise, cut once!
[17:49:32] <Bytram> thanks for the confirmation!
[17:49:22] <Runaway1956> Sounds right
[17:49:22] <Bytram> then I'll think about installing synaptic
[17:49:08] <Bytram> given space is tight atm, I think I'll try: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-x.x.x.x-generic on the first (oldest) image
[17:48:58] <Runaway1956> Just a wrapper
[17:48:49] <Runaway1956> That is correct
[17:48:32] <Bytram> okay... IIUC, synaptic is a wrapper around the apt commands, right?
[17:41:35] * Bytram is currently running, according to uname -r: 3.16.0-10-generic
[17:40:44] * Bytram is still reading the article that Runaway1956 posted -- good stuff!
[17:39:33] <Runaway1956> And, yes, evince looks VERY familiar, I've used it before
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[17:37:21] <Runaway1956> he's killin me here with talk about naps
[17:36:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... yeah, definitely nap time now. later taters.
[17:36:19] <Runaway1956> Any 'Buntu needs at least the space of a CD
[17:35:56] <Runaway1956> No Buzz, that would be Yellow Dog I think.
[17:35:20] <Runaway1956> let dpkg do it
[17:35:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> geez, you trying to fit that vm on a floppy?
[17:35:12] <Runaway1956> try the command from that page I quoted
[17:34:55] * Bytram hopes he does not run out of space while installing it!
[17:34:45] <Bytram> that splains it... The program 'synaptic' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[17:34:19] <Runaway1956> is that an "s" or an "x"? lxterminal
[17:33:52] * Bytram opens a new terminal window
[17:33:52] <Runaway1956> lsterminal for the win
[17:33:06] <Runaway1956> type synaptic in a terminal
[17:32:55] <Bytram> how do I launch synaptic?
[17:32:39] <Bytram> hmm, uptime 7d22h
[17:32:36] <Runaway1956> Yes, but he gets more involved than the title suggests further down the page
[17:32:18] <Bytram> I don't see anything in the boot menu... but then again, I can't remember the last time I shutdown the VM and did a hard restart
[17:32:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> boot menu cleans itself as you remove the kernels
[17:31:38] <NotAnymore> ^ 03grub2 - How do I remove old kernel versions to clean up the boot menu? - Ask Ubuntu
[17:31:37] <Runaway1956> I don't see the date on this - you might check it out - https://askubuntu.com
[17:31:26] <Bytram> :/
[17:31:21] <Bytram> that looks intutively casual to the most obvious observer!
[17:30:54] <nick> synaptic is pretty great
[17:30:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can't stand it. package management split into several different executables is sick n wrong.
[17:30:47] <Runaway1956> dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'`uname -r`'/q;p' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[17:30:36] * Bytram doesn't see synaptic in the menus... is it something I run from the CLI?
[17:30:30] <Runaway1956> Oh - found this - wait one
[17:29:48] * Runaway1956 prefers apt-get when maintaining debian, but to each his own
[17:29:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's pretty nice
[17:29:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> try synaptic
[17:28:59] <Bytram> I've been using: System > Administration > Software Updater
[17:28:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> but it'd be apt-get remove packagename
[17:27:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> just put the version strings in the search box and remove everything that has them in it.
[17:27:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> use the gui package manager if you can. it's easier
[17:27:32] <Bytram> LOL!
[17:27:27] <Runaway1956> I was afraid you'd ask that next - - - - lemme look
[17:27:23] <Bytram> *newbie
[17:27:17] * Bytram feels like such a newie
[17:27:04] <Bytram> so, if I wanted to remove the 3.16.0-33 kernel... what command would I use?
[17:26:56] <Runaway1956> No, fuggit - for best results at work, I need to stay awake for another 90 to 120 minutes
[17:26:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> give in to the peer pressure!
[17:26:03] <Runaway1956> Dammit Buzz, I was trying to ignore my own drooping eyelids
[17:25:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, it's gettin on towards noon and i feel a nap sneaking up on me.
[17:25:32] <Bytram> so, I don't want to get ubuntu confused with it's GUI update stuff, but I also want to clean out stuff so I can upgrade...
[17:25:19] <Runaway1956> Life sucks, but it's better than the alternative I guess. - Ronald Reagan?
[17:25:00] <Bytram> ouch!
[17:24:48] <Bytram> Life is a rough teacher; gives the test first and the lesson later.
[17:24:47] <Runaway1956> I won't make another Win7 with less than 50 gig of space - THAT is a pain
[17:24:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, that's life for yas
[17:24:23] <Bytram> yep, using Orale's virtuabox
[17:24:09] <Bytram> and this is how I learm, I guess. I just did what was suggested when I was setting up the VM. live and learn.
[17:24:05] <Runaway1956> Yep, common occurrence with VM's - if you use VBox, you can grow your virtual disk, but it's a pain in the ass.
[17:23:28] <Bytram> well, I'm getting install errors when I tried to let ubuntu do an update... out of disk space on /boot
[17:23:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, this is why we do not make a separate /boot partition on vms
[17:22:47] <Runaway1956> Probably make your VM happier if you do uninstall all the extras, although, you can't test against them if you ininstall them
[17:22:40] <Bytram> that was the intent.
[17:22:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> also it matches most of our boxes at linode
[17:22:19] <Runaway1956> ahhhhhhh
[17:22:12] <Bytram> this is in a VM, btw
[17:22:09] <Runaway1956> Yeah - reason enough.
[17:21:57] <Bytram> LTS -- when testing, I like to have some stability
[17:21:45] <Runaway1956> Kernel: 4.3.3-4-lqx
[17:21:39] <Runaway1956> I'm sure you have a reason for using such an old kernel
[17:21:36] <Bytram> 3.16.0-60-generic according to uname -a
[17:20:58] <Bytram> =)
[17:20:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Obsolete Crypto is Dangerous: "DROWN" SSLv2 Vulnerability Used to Attack TLS - http://sylnt.us - water-is-up-to-my-neck
[17:20:43] <Bytram> 3.16.0-60-generic according to uname -a
[17:20:38] <Runaway1956> $ uname -a
[17:20:29] <Runaway1956> You probably want to uninstall all but the latest and greatest, which you should be using
[17:19:55] <Runaway1956> So, what kernel are you booted to?
[17:19:54] <Bytram> where 'nn' is one of: 33, 51, 53, 55, 59, 60, and 62
[17:19:33] <Bytram> found 7 "linux-image-3.16.0-nn*-generic" and 7 "linux-image-extra-3.16.0-nn-generic"
[17:18:57] <Runaway1956> my google-fu rises infinitesmally
[17:18:27] <Runaway1956> cool
[17:18:14] <Bytram> worked...
[17:17:24] <Runaway1956> Should be the same for any Debian derivative - try it, see if it works
[17:16:59] <Bytram> that's for ubuntu, right? (I've got 14.04, I think; trusty tahr)
[17:16:35] <Bytram> ahhhh! thanks!
[17:16:27] <Runaway1956> bytram - $ dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[17:15:14] * TheMightyBuzzard is not in the mood to make submissions work on the new bot today
[17:14:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> copy pasta the version strings into search
[17:14:15] * Bytram scratches head
[17:14:00] * Bytram guesses it's apt somthin somethin
[17:13:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> you'll have one for each initrd
[17:13:45] <Bytram> is there a command that lists the kernels I have installed?
[17:13:15] <Bytram> so far, I've just been doing what ever the system update tool does... I let it d/l and install updates
[17:13:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> if your current kernel is working, only keep it.
[17:12:53] <Bytram> hmmm,
[17:12:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> uninstall the old kernels and initrds
[17:12:30] <Bytram> can i safely delete the *33 one?
[17:12:11] <Bytram> each is about 19870KB
[17:12:02] * Bytram ran out of space in his ubuntu vm on /boot to perform an upgrade. :( Notice I have what appear to be several back-level versions of files, but not certain... initrd.img-3.16.0-33-generic, initrd.img-3.16.0-51-generic, initrd.img-3.16.0-53-generic, initrd.img-3.16.0-55-generic, initrd.img-3.16.0-59-generic, initrd.img-3.16.0-62-generic
[17:09:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> was more or less the gnome viewer back in the day
[17:09:12] <Runaway1956> Installing - seems I remember that from somewhwere . . .
[17:08:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> not much difference
[17:08:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> try evince. it's what atril was forked from
[17:06:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't surprise me
[17:06:06] <Runaway1956> LOL - I see - if you try to install atril, pacman wants to install all of Mate.
[17:05:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i got foxit and adobe on here as well for some reason. never use em though.
[17:04:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, dunno
[17:04:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly does what i tell it though
[17:04:26] <Runaway1956> Worse or better than epdfreader?
[17:03:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, it's chincy. comes with Mate.
[17:03:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> and you need proper, not scanned without ocr, text
[17:03:34] * Bytram is a fan of SumatraPDF on windows
[17:03:31] <Runaway1956> Never used that one - I'll have to look at it.
[17:03:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, on desktop i mostly use Atril
[17:03:07] <Bytram> multi-column can be problematic, for example.
[17:02:48] <Bytram> need a very-simply-liad-out doc for it work right.
[17:02:30] <Bytram> yep
[17:02:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but they're ify at best
[17:02:22] * Bytram is not a big fan, except when needing to send an exactly-formatted document to someone else for printing.
[17:02:00] <Bytram> depending on how the PDFs were created, there are tools that allow content extraction: pdftotext, etc.
[17:01:25] <Runaway1956> I mostly hate them as well - that's why I'm experimenting with different readers
[17:01:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> or any compiled document you can't edit for that matter.
[17:01:18] <Bytram> that's what chairs are for ;)
[17:00:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can't bloody stand pfds
[17:00:52] <Bytram> is that /bin/true ?
[17:00:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> /bin/false
[17:00:27] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[17:00:06] <Runaway1956> Hey, TheMightyBuzzard - what is your favorite PDF reader?
[16:48:52] <Runaway1956> Got that right. Alpha and Beta established a fine tradition of not RTFA, we don't want to break tradition.
[16:48:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ♫ I am your dentist, and I enjoy the career that I picked, I'm your dentist, and I get off on the pain I inflict ♫
[16:47:22] <nick> we didn't get where we are by reading TFA
[16:47:16] <nick> indeed
[16:46:36] <Runaway1956> I got no idea - I only read the submitted summary, without following any links. Don't want my head to assplode with to much information!
[16:44:51] <nick> what makes our ancestors dentistry different?
[16:44:03] <Runaway1956> The whole concept of "professionalism" precludes taking it out in trade.
[16:43:41] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6137, owned by liberza
[16:43:40] <Bytram> !uid
[16:43:12] <Runaway1956> Yeah, but mostly those "professions" just traded. "Hey, Baby, you want a haunch of elk? Lemme caress your haunches, and we'll call it even!"
[16:42:28] <nick> must have all came before dentistry as a speciality
[16:42:10] <nick> hunting, tribal leaders, general medicine, clothing and tool makers
[16:41:59] <Runaway1956> Trump is related to the cavemen, after all.
[16:41:29] <Runaway1956> You're saying that the cavemen dentists were amateurs? Careful, or they'll be suing you!
[16:41:23] <nick> more general medicine would surely come first
[16:40:54] <nick> i doubt dentistry is that old as a profession
[16:38:38] <Runaway1956> But, of course! Why would you want to ruin it by refrigerating it?
[16:38:13] <cmn32480> Runaway1956 - that is only good direct from the tap
[16:38:09] <NotAnymore> ^ 03SN Submission by Phoenix666: How Our Ancestors Drilled Rotten Teeth
[16:38:08] <Runaway1956> Hmmmm - dentistry may be the second oldest profession - - - https://soylentnews.org
[16:35:13] <Runaway1956> unfortunately, I was weaned at a young age . . . .
[16:35:05] <nick> that how you keep your eternal youth, Runaway1956?
[16:34:48] * Runaway1956 prefers human milk
[16:34:29] <Bytram> what species did it come from?
[16:34:21] <Runaway1956> Creme de la Bull.
[16:34:21] <nick> i went for the bag with cows on the label
[16:34:06] <nick> now i just hope this stuff is actually milk
[16:34:01] <nick> i managed to do it using the technique as demonstrated by the canadians on youtube
[16:32:51] <Runaway1956> That's the TOP, not the bottom.
[16:32:37] <Runaway1956> Nick - just poke a straw in the top of the bag.
[16:28:55] <nick> watch me get milk all over the floor...
[16:28:45] <nick> now time to deal with this whole milk in bags situation
[16:19:00] <exec> 10Montevideo, Uruguay - currently 68°F, cloudy, wind SE at 7 mph, humidity 75% - Tuesday partly cloudy (62°F:76°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (63°F:77°F), Thursday partly cloudy (65°F:82°F), Friday partly cloudy (67°F:82°F)
[16:18:58] <Bytram> ~weather uruguay
[16:03:08] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v nick] by Aphrodite
[16:03:08] -!- nick [nick!~nick@Soylent/Staff/Editor/n1] has joined #Soylent
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[15:19:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pentagon Research Could Make 'Brain Modem' a Reality - http://sylnt.us - jack-in-and-tune-out
[15:09:50] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $697
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[13:56:40] <Bytram> k
[13:56:39] <Bytram> yep, first one looks perfect.
[13:56:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> afk
[13:56:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> first one we could do
[13:55:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> nix the second one
[13:55:17] <NotAnymore> ^✓ 03Team 10's contributions to Folding@home ( http://fah-web.stanford.edu )
[13:55:16] <Bytram> http://fah-web.stanford.edu
[13:55:11] <Bytram> http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[13:55:06] <Bytram> yep, found some candidates:
[13:53:16] <Bytram> hrrrm, I think so...
[13:53:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> they had an xml results thing though, yeah?
[13:52:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> seriously, if you gotta rely on page scraping, kill the idea. it's not worth having to fix every time their page changes.
[13:51:51] <Bytram> k
[13:51:46] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:51:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> they all run as perl
[13:51:33] <Bytram> Can they run at the shell level? Or are they all within Perl?
[13:51:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> course now if they got an api, that'd be best. i really, really hate to write page scraping into production code.
[13:51:08] <Bytram> kewel!
[13:51:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's tons all running at different times.
[13:50:58] <Bytram> yep, planned on caching
[13:50:47] <Bytram> is there just one slashd job or can multiple ones be set up to run at different times?
[13:50:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> cache the result
[13:50:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm, best to do that with a slashd job every so often.
[13:49:52] <Bytram> was thinking about creating a slashbox for our FaH stats
[13:49:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> pulling external pages can lead to hanging until the page is retrieved. plus copyright issues.
[13:49:09] <Bytram> hope the meeting goes well!
[13:48:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2310
[13:48:59] <Bytram> coffee++ =)
[13:48:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[13:48:42] <paulej72> ok off to a breakfast meeting
[13:48:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> if there's not it's easy to do. not that we should ever want to.
[13:48:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Clear Channel Billboards Will Track Nearby Mobile Devices - http://sylnt.us - Hello-Mister-Anderton!
[13:47:16] <Bytram> nice!
[13:47:03] <paulej72> i believe there is a sub that pulls in a web page
[13:46:13] <Bytram> :(
[13:46:10] <Bytram> another lesson learned: make sure the UPS has a Mute button.
[13:45:37] <Bytram> I learned my lesson the hard way many years ago... if it computes, it sits on a UPS
[13:45:12] <Bytram> nice
[13:45:07] <Bytram> was wondering... is there already code in rehash to retrieve a web page?
[13:45:06] <paulej72> the ones I was worried about, i have
[13:44:28] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:44:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> fishing's out until i get a new license tomorrow.
[13:44:04] <Bytram> were you able to get all your systems straightened okay after the power 'hiccup'?
[13:43:43] <paulej72> morning
[13:43:39] <Bytram> paulej72: g'morning!
[13:43:33] <exec> 10Princeton, NJ, USA - currently 42°F / 6°C, mostly sunny, wind N at 7 mph, humidity 57% - Tuesday mostly sunny (43°F:51°F / 6°C:11°C), Wednesday cloudy (24°F:48°F / -4°C:9°C), Thursday partly cloudy (27°F:40°F / -3°C:4°C), Friday snow showers (25°F:37°F / -4°C:3°C)
[13:43:32] <Bytram> not so good weather for fooshin
[13:43:30] <paulej72> ~weather
[13:43:20] <exec> 10Humboldt, TN 38343, USA - currently 58°F, mostly cloudy, wind S at 11 mph, humidity 79% - Tuesday thunderstorm (31°F:63°F), Wednesday sunny (42°F:54°F), Thursday showers (38°F:58°F), Friday partly cloudy (38°F:56°F)
[13:43:19] <Bytram> ~weather TheMightyBuzzard
[13:43:13] <Bytram> how's things?
[13:42:56] <Bytram> morning!
[13:42:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Bytram
[13:42:44] <exec> Tuesday, 1 March 2016 @ 7:42 am CT - Central Time
[13:42:42] <Bytram> ~time CST
[13:37:33] <NotAnymore> ^ 03DROWN Attack
[13:37:32] <Bytram> https://drownattack.com
[13:35:57] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 15°F, mostly sunny, wind W at 16 mph, humidity 53% - Tuesday partly cloudy (9°F:17°F), Wednesday snow with brief sleet (0°F:36°F), Thursday partly cloudy (-10°F:6°F), Friday mostly sunny (-5°F:18°F)
[13:35:55] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[13:35:51] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 28°F, mostly sunny, wind N at 11 mph, humidity 27% - Tuesday mostly sunny (29°F:37°F), Wednesday rain (13°F:47°F), Thursday sunny (10°F:26°F), Friday partly cloudy (16°F:31°F)
[13:35:49] <Bytram> ~weather portland me
[13:35:46] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 35°F, mostly sunny, wind NW at 12 mph, humidity 26% - Tuesday mostly sunny (35°F:44°F), Wednesday rain (22°F:52°F), Thursday sunny (24°F:34°F), Friday snow showers (25°F:35°F)
[13:35:44] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[13:35:23] <Bytram> nice!
[13:35:18] <exec> 072565
[13:35:16] <Bytram> ~folding-rank
[13:35:08] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Happy birthday, Ferruccio! 770-horsepower Lamborghini Centenario debuts - Roadshow ( http://www.cnet.com )
[13:35:07] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[13:35:02] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6137, owned by liberza
[13:35:02] <Bytram> !uid
[13:34:59] <Bytram> !iod
[13:34:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2309
[13:34:56] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:20:52] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[12:53:23] <NotAnymore> ^ 03D'ya like dags? - YouTube
[12:53:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[12:52:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, paulej72
[12:50:08] * exec clumsily tosses a caravan of Gravis Ultrasound to paulej72
[12:50:06] <cmn32480> ~gday paulej72
[12:49:18] <paulej72> morning all
[12:45:18] <cmn32480> ahhh
[12:45:05] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03Dag: An Australian slang term. A dag is technically the matted wool on a sheeps tail, but in typical useage throughout Australia, it refers to people who don't have a neat, tidy or cultured appearance....
[12:45:03] <cmn32480> ~define dag
[12:44:58] <exec> [google] https://en.wikipedia.org(subculture)
[12:44:57] <exec> [google] https://en.wikipedia.org(subculture)
[12:44:55] <cmn32480> ~g dag
[12:36:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like dags. i like coffee++ more.
[12:29:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2308
[12:29:21] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:26:03] * exec abnormally hurls a tinfoil hat of dag at #soylent
[12:26:01] <cmn32480> ~gday #soylent
[12:16:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Human-Animal Chimeras are Gestating on U.S. Research Farms - http://sylnt.us - things-are-not-always-what-they-seem
[12:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite man
[12:10:55] <crutchy> haf fun
[12:10:52] <crutchy> anyway, bed time for me
[12:10:09] <crutchy> kinda like an asm block in delphi
[12:09:59] <crutchy> would be handy if you could just do inline C in your perl code
[12:08:59] <crutchy> hmm. looks like the one i found is perl5
[12:08:01] <crutchy> you using perlembed?
[12:07:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> man that's just sad
[12:06:01] <crutchy> i can't access it
[12:05:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> that never gets old
[12:04:05] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[12:04:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> #bnk
[12:03:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> the easy ones like #bnk and #socialist i'm prolly gonna move over to C though just to save a bit extra ram
[12:02:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> and man, XSUB code is a huge pain to write.
[12:01:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, db is just sqlite for me. i could almost certainly do it in C easily but then i'd hafta write XSUB code to be able to call C functions from within the perl interpreter.
[12:01:10] <crutchy> (well in exec's buckets anyway)
[12:00:55] <crutchy> problem with a volatile db is if your bot bricks your db goes down too
[12:00:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, much easier to parse and even read than xml
[12:00:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> well all of perl is volatile in this bot. can reload the whole interpreter.
[12:00:22] <crutchy> i'm starting to really dig json
[12:00:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, prolly be lighter weight.
[11:59:55] <crutchy> can also use buckets, but they are volatile
[11:59:24] <crutchy> not the best probably, but seems to work :p
[11:59:12] <crutchy> exec just uses a flat delimited file
[11:58:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> mkay, gotta create myself a db for locations. can't help thinking db stuff would be a lot lighter weight written in C but i don't wanna hafta write XSUB stuff to call C functions from perl.
[11:52:01] <crutchy> haha donald drumpf
[11:40:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> too early for politics. need moar coffee n nicotine.
[11:39:24] <NotAnymore> ^ 03John Oliver Destroys Donald Trump (Full Segment) February 28th 2016 - YouTube
[11:39:23] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[11:38:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> aright, botly is serving up weather. just not saving locations yet.
[11:19:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> been a damned nice week for February
[11:18:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, bout 20F warmer than here
[11:18:36] <crutchy> crawling around steam vessels
[11:18:33] <MrPlow> Today: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the low 60s. Tomorrow: Generally sunny. High 98F. Winds WNW at 10 to 15 mph.
[11:18:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather Traralgon, australia
[11:18:26] <crutchy> out in the sun it was warm
[11:18:19] <crutchy> hmm. apparently only got to 36
[11:18:03] <exec> 04Traralgon VIC - currently 24°C, partly cloudy, wind SE at 8 km/h, humidity 55% - Tuesday partly cloudy (17°C:36°C), Wednesday mostly sunny (16°C:36°C), Thursday partly cloudy (16°C:30°C), Friday partly cloudy (18°C:34°C)
[11:18:01] <crutchy> ~weather
[11:17:59] <crutchy> fkin warm today
[11:17:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> hows life upside down treatin yas?
[11:17:31] <crutchy> ahoy!
[11:17:24] * exec clumsily throws my butt of CoC at crutchy
[11:17:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~g'mornin crutchy
[11:16:27] <Bender> karma - doritos_n_softdrink: 1
[11:16:27] <crutchy> doritos_n_softdrink++
[11:16:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kids Are Facing Criminal Charges for Using Emoji - http://sylnt.us - it's-just-your-emoji-nation
[11:15:00] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2307
[11:15:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
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[09:23:49] * Subsentient is bored, so the burritos start flying
[09:23:42] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy
[09:23:42] <Subsentient> $burrito crutchy
[08:44:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Surge Pricing Arrives in Disney's Magic Kingdom - http://sylnt.us - it's-getting-harder-to-take-it-easy
[08:20:11] <crutchy> doesn't make it right though
[08:20:03] <crutchy> but i'm by no means a feminist. that sort of thing likely happens to guys all the time
[08:19:22] <crutchy> i personally feel sorry for the woman, if it did in fact happen to her like that
[08:18:57] <crutchy> it gets people talking and thinking
[08:17:53] <crutchy> can't please everyone all of the time
[08:17:36] <crutchy> meh
[08:11:59] <Gravis> nobody wants that shit
[08:11:47] <NotAnymore> ^ 03SN article:  Detroit Woman Injured, Humiliated after Security Guard Mistook Her for a Man 04(30 comments)
[08:11:46] <Gravis> take it back, take it back now! https://soylentnews.org
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[07:12:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A(nother) Programming Language for Games - http://sylnt.us - have-fun
[07:09:23] <arti> http://i.imgur.com
[07:07:10] <Subsentient> arti: Yeah I think something like that ^^
[07:06:52] <arti> ?
[07:06:51] <arti> with living tissue over plastic and metal endoskeleton
[07:06:00] <crutchy> otherwise we might need john connor
[07:05:46] <crutchy> as long as she doesn't become sentient we'll be safe
[07:05:09] <Subsentient> arti: We found the best surgeon her insurance would pay for, and she's got new metal-on-plastic knees.
[07:04:12] <Subsentient> Yeah, glad she didn't have a segfault.
[07:03:11] <arti> i'm pleased to hear your parental program is operating well
[07:02:43] <arti> did she get new plumbis joints?
[07:02:25] <NotAnymore> ^ 03How a Plumbus is Made (Rick and Morty) - YouTube
[07:02:24] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[07:02:15] <Subsentient> She gets to tell people that she got her knees done on February 29th.
[07:02:01] <crutchy> that chick in force awakens. 6 rations
[07:02:01] <Subsentient> My mom's double knee replacement surgery was successful.
[07:01:42] <arti> the force awakens: 4 rations
[07:01:31] <Subsentient> Nah, I'm secretly the rat hiding under your seat. Don't look.
[07:01:26] * crutchy gives his ration to aqu4
[07:01:19] <arti> like bono but fart
[07:01:13] <arti> you're secretly just a fart
[07:01:00] * Subsentient rations out the stench of his juicy wet fart
[07:00:45] <arti> the sailors would get a ration
[07:00:35] * Subsentient farts
[07:00:32] <crutchy> if you force people to forgoe their rum, they might be less inclined to reoffend
[07:00:13] <arti> how about ejecting the bottle at them at a high velocity
[06:59:58] <SirFinkus> "The losing party is also lightly 'fined'; he must present rum or beer to the mediator and the others who heard the case. This is consumed by all in attendance. "
[06:59:50] * crutchy isn't a big fan of rum, bnut rum-based justice might just work
[06:59:41] <arti> http://i.imgur.com
[06:59:03] <crutchy> haha. maybe they should add that to the quote proforma
[06:59:00] <SirFinkus> although it seems counterproductive
[06:58:54] <SirFinkus> " The mediator may fine anyone who speaks out of turn by requiring them to bring some rum for the group to drink." I wish our legal system was like this
[06:58:42] <arti> crutchy gives better deals to attractive people
[06:58:29] <arti> something i'd imagine bart simpson doing
[06:58:27] <crutchy> unfortunately the prospective clients aren't very good looking. their usually blokes in overalls
[06:58:21] * arti enjoys these greatly
[06:58:20] * SirFinkus is making a mistake right now
[06:58:10] <NotAnymore> ^ 03In honour of the upcoming ' Thanks Satan ' holiday... - Album on Imgur
[06:58:09] <arti> http://imgur.com
[06:57:59] <arti> chasing amy
[06:57:42] <crutchy> sort of chasing work i guess
[06:57:35] <arti> it's good, your salesspeak and analysis module is performant
[06:57:08] <crutchy> maybe investigating jobs would be a better word for it
[06:57:00] <arti> "whip"
[06:56:54] <crutchy> yeah i dunno if that's the correct term for it
[06:56:52] * arti wakes up early now
[06:56:49] <arti> g'day
[06:56:45] <crutchy> g'day arti
[06:56:42] <arti> you gotta sneak up on them and throw your shoe
[06:56:39] <SirFinkus> I've been a bit remiss because I've been playing games too much
[06:56:23] <arti> chasing quotes eh
[06:55:48] <SirFinkus> thanks for your efforts
[06:55:45] <SirFinkus> yeah, I've noticed we've gotten a big bump
[06:54:43] <crutchy> my work pyewta was running full all day cos i was out of the office chasing quotes
[06:54:18] <crutchy> SirFinkus, the folding team ranking is getting better gradually
[06:52:53] * arti scans for equestrian particles
[06:52:26] <arti> are you not a people
[06:52:25] <SirFinkus> well, I do my own for my own profit
[06:52:22] <arti> for charity
[06:52:18] <SirFinkus> no
[06:52:10] <arti> do you do people's schoolwork for profit?
[06:51:45] <arti> it's pretty quality, it'll enhance your collection
[06:51:24] <arti> i'll trade you a used napkin for the link
[06:51:24] <SirFinkus> some homework crap
[06:51:11] <arti> what are you reading?
[06:50:57] <SirFinkus> "The two women were classificatory sisters." that's hot
[06:48:50] * arti jazz claps
[06:48:47] <arti> pretty good.
[06:48:04] <SirFinkus> god damn, that one's not even in my dictionary
[06:47:56] <SirFinkus> "The form of political organization found in the area can thus best be termed the polycephalous associational state."
[06:42:35] <arti> pataytas
[06:42:27] <arti> patatas
[06:37:10] <Tramtrist> nice
[06:36:28] <SirFinkus> I'm already full of steak, beer, and potatos
[06:32:24] <arti> javascript cheese
[06:32:10] <arti> you can manipulate the properties until it resembles your preference
[06:31:51] * arti offers cheese
[06:31:49] <SirFinkus> pretty good
[06:31:41] <arti> how are you?
[06:31:11] <arti> so i've got that going for me
[06:31:04] <arti> i've not jacked into the #soylent matrix in awhile
[06:30:47] <arti> lurking in the shadows
[06:30:05] <SirFinkus> long time no see arti
[06:29:48] * arti enhances the splines
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[04:19:58] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
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[03:40:34] <exec> 072635
[03:40:32] <Bytram> ~folding-rank 29
[03:33:51] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 35
[03:33:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> 8008135++
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[03:28:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like about a third of it was under lame duck bush.
[03:28:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, first year. stupid off by one brain error
[03:27:16] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
[03:27:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> and right up till 2010 looks like. http://data.bls.gov Lost sumpin like 17-18 million jobs in BHO's first two years. have gained back less than a quarter of that.
[03:15:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, the economy crashed FAST. 2008-2009 was like economically taking repeated nut kicks every other day.
[02:55:49] <Tramtrist> bada bing
[02:52:00] <cmn32480> no.. that's a jobless recovery
[02:51:51] <Tramtrist> like the economy
[02:51:47] <Tramtrist> slow crash
[02:39:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Self-Driving Car Causes (Slow) Crash - http://sylnt.us - things-that-go-bump-in-the-day
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[02:17:32] <Bytram> half-baked vs stir-fried
[02:10:40] <paulej72> baked not fried
[02:04:37] <Bytram> ugh. back
[02:04:30] <Bytram> bakd
[01:57:15] <Bytram> break time; biab
[01:08:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Report Advocates "Centaur" Warfare, Cites Dangers of Autonomous Weapons - http://sylnt.us - half-artificial-half-intelligent
[00:50:08] <Bytram> time to make dinner... biab
[00:49:57] <Bytram> =)
[00:39:32] <takyon> :>
[00:39:20] <Bender> karma - takyon: 23
[00:39:20] <Bytram> takyon++
[00:38:44] <takyon> :(
[00:38:37] <Bender> karma - takyon: 22
[00:38:37] <Bytram> takyon++
[00:37:39] <paulej72> snubbed
[00:37:27] <takyon> subbed
[00:35:20] <Bytram> !woohoo
[00:35:07] <exec> 072656
[00:35:05] <Bytram> ~folding-rank 28
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[00:30:43] <Bytram> will it be a substantial sub sandwich?
[00:30:17] <takyon> i'll throw a sloppy sub sandwich in the line
[00:30:17] <Bytram> go for it!
[00:30:09] <takyon> i'll take that as a no
[00:27:02] <takyon> are one of you subbing the apple story?
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[00:18:49] <Bytram> note: this is a *different* case from the San Bernardino case in California
[00:18:21] <julian_> I'm going to grab that twin prime 6359/6361 and hold on to it for selling on Ebay in ten years
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[00:16:10] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Apple prevails in forced iPhone unlock case in New York court | Ars Technica
[00:16:09] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[00:15:40] <cmn32480> 3
[00:14:37] <paulej72> what was the last one?
[00:10:54] <Bytram> 6373 6379 6389 6397 6421 6427 6449 6451 6469 6473
[00:10:54] <Bytram> 6311 6317 6323 6329 6337 6343 6353 6359 6361 6367
[00:10:54] <Bytram> 6229 6247 6257 6263 6269 6271 6277 6287 6299 6301
[00:10:54] <Bytram> 6143 6151 6163 6173 6197 6199 6203 6211 6217 6221
[00:10:53] <Bytram> here's the next few:
[00:08:53] <julian_> I suppose technically there's always another one coming up
[00:05:02] <julian_> Prime number coming up, 6143
[00:02:35] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6136, owned by skjgeek
[00:02:35] <Bytram> !uid
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[00:00:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> ... Zero pending stories?