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[00:20:00] <paulej72> bender the blender
[00:34:43] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[00:36:48] <takyon> bytram is the villain in the new harry potter book
[00:37:30] <Bytram> woo hoo!
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[00:41:12] <takyon> https://www.youtube.com
[00:41:13] <snowfire> ^ 03RAPE QUIZ - Not anymore! - YouTube
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[01:21:41] <chromas> Thanks, feminism
[01:30:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Culture Shapes How Leaders Smile, Stanford Research Shows - http://sylnt.us - say-cheese
[01:32:21] <chromas> "I took this quiz. It doesn't let you skip through the videos so I just left them playing on mute while I played video games and came back every few minutes to take the quiz and go on to the next video."
[01:33:19] snowfire is now known as NotAnymore
[01:40:14] <takyon> ahah
[01:41:44] <takyon> quoth the raven, not anymore
[01:44:16] <takyon> http://www.futurity.org
[01:44:17] <NotAnymore> ^ 03It's not your age that predicts cancer risk. It's your age gap - Futurity
[01:45:17] <Bytram> Tachyon: lol! EAP FTW
[01:48:27] <takyon> errr
[01:50:41] <Bytram> Edgar Alan Poe, For The Win
[01:51:10] <takyon> errr
[01:51:13] <takyon> "Tachyon:"
[01:51:35] <Bytram> oh, that. ta<tab>
[01:51:37] <takyon> don't ping that poor person
[01:52:29] <Bytram> sorry, afaik, letter,letter,tab works for pretty much everyone in all the channels I visit, 'cept for you and sir[fincus|cote]
[01:53:16] <takyon> it's time to go to ed
[01:53:33] <Bytram> Mr. Ed, of course, of course
[02:06:04] -!- SanityCheck has quit [Quit: Web client closed]
[02:29:12] <SirFinkus> "Mr. Tyler was fired after he had posted a story on Facebook with a video of Mr. Rubio containing a subtitle claiming to show the Florida senator saying there are “not many answers” in the Bible. In fact, Mr. Rubio had said it has “all the answers.”", Oh, and here I as thinking rubio said somthing sensible for once
[02:29:53] <SirFinkus> "It was reminiscent of Mr. Cruz’s decision recently to pull a campaign ad that featured an actress who had starred in pornographic films"
[02:29:59] <SirFinkus> oh lord, I gotta see that
[02:30:14] <Bytram> .
[02:30:31] <Bytram> #submit http://www.theregister.co.uk "Luxembourg-based SES is paying SpaceX to loft a new communications satellite into geostationary orbit along the equator at 108.2 degrees east longitude. The current launch window is available from Wednesday at 1846 ET (2346 UTC) and for about two hours after that point."
[02:30:32] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[02:31:02] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[02:45:49] <cmn32480> why do hotel maids always seem to have stripper names?
[02:46:10] <SirFinkus> might be the hotels you stay in
[02:46:19] <cmn32480> Krystle
[02:46:27] <cmn32480> yesterday was Casey
[02:49:38] <cmn32480> perhaps I need to stay in a lower class of hotel, where they come clean while I'm here... and act like strippers
[02:49:47] <cmn32480> or woudl that be a higher class of hotel?
[02:50:07] <SirFinkus> it's a u shaped curve
[02:55:00] <takyon> maid by day
[02:55:10] <Bytram> made by nite
[02:56:55] <paulej72> woo hoo stuff looking good on dev
[03:01:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Black Monday: Office 365 down and out in Europe - http://sylnt.us - can't-trust-that-day
[03:02:26] <cmn32480> !woop
[03:02:26] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[03:03:24] <cmn32480> ~weather
[03:03:26] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 43°F / 6°C, cloudy, wind S at 0 mph, humidity 63% - Monday cloudy (38°F:50°F / 3°C:10°C), Tuesday rain (39°F:44°F / 4°C:7°C), Wednesday thunderstorm (51°F:53°F / 11°C:12°C), Thursday mostly cloudy (35°F:52°F / 2°C:11°C)
[03:03:36] <cmn32480> ~weather louisville, KY
[03:03:38] <exec> 10Louisville, KY, USA - currently 45°F / 7°C, partly cloudy, wind NE at 4 mph, humidity 63% - Monday clear with periodic clouds (34°F:50°F / 1°C:10°C), Tuesday mostly cloudy (47°F:58°F / 8°C:14°C), Wednesday rain (34°F:55°F / 1°C:13°C), Thursday snow showers (27°F:35°F / -3°C:2°C)
[03:04:18] <paulej72> ~weather
[03:04:20] <exec> 10Princeton, NJ, USA - currently 37°F / 3°C, partly cloudy, wind NW at 2 mph, humidity 71% - Monday partly cloudy (32°F:52°F / 0°C:11°C), Tuesday rain (36°F:41°F / 2°C:5°C), Wednesday rain (53°F:53°F / 12°C:12°C), Thursday mostly cloudy (32°F:54°F / 0°C:12°C)
[03:13:30] <Deucalion> ~weather juggs
[03:13:32] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 40°F / 4°C, cloudy, wind W at 6 mph, humidity 73% - Monday partly cloudy (34°F:48°F / 1°C:9°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (29°F:49°F / -2°C:9°C), Wednesday mostly sunny (27°F:46°F / -3°C:8°C), Thursday mostly sunny (31°F:46°F / -1°C:8°C)
[03:15:02] <SirFinkus> ~weather
[03:15:04] <exec> 10Olympia, WA, USA - currently 40°F / 4°C, clear, wind E at 5 mph, humidity 93% - Monday clear with periodic clouds (32°F:52°F / 0°C:11°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (36°F:57°F / 2°C:14°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (37°F:59°F / 3°C:15°C), Thursday partly cloudy (39°F:62°F / 4°C:17°C)
[03:15:13] <SirFinkus> all in the same ballpark lil
[03:15:14] <SirFinkus> lol
[03:16:14] <cmn32480> Cold Park?
[03:16:32] <SirFinkus> wouldn't call it cold yet
[03:17:04] <SirFinkus> it'll hit 2℃ tonight here, which is bordering on cold
[03:17:59] <cmn32480> Not Spring Yet Park?
[03:18:15] <SirFinkus> on the contrary, shit's blooming
[03:18:26] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[03:18:28] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 32°F, partly cloudy, wind N at 8 mph, humidity 47% - Monday partly cloudy (26°F:42°F), Tuesday cloudy (34°F:39°F), Wednesday rain (41°F:42°F), Thursday rain (36°F:56°F)
[03:18:31] * SirFinkus hopes for a big snow storm
[03:18:33] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[03:18:35] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 25°F, partly cloudy, wind N at 13 mph, humidity 38% - Monday partly cloudy (15°F:35°F), Tuesday mostly cloudy (27°F:35°F), Wednesday snow with brief sleet (35°F:38°F), Thursday rain (32°F:50°F)
[03:18:40] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[03:18:42] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 7°F, clear, wind NW at 6 mph, humidity 60% - Monday clear (-4°F:20°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (13°F:25°F), Wednesday snow (29°F:33°F), Thursday rain (35°F:47°F)
[03:19:08] * Bytram sure knows how to pick a great week to go on vacation. :/
[03:19:41] <SirFinkus> why would you go on a vacation to maine in February?
[03:20:09] <Deucalion> Cold is no bother with the right clothes... persistent rain and damp though... that sucks
[03:20:22] <SirFinkus> again
[03:20:31] <SirFinkus> why would you go on a vacation to maine in February?
[03:22:17] <takyon> too much weather
[03:22:39] <SirFinkus> well, we're doing it weather you like it or not
[03:22:47] <SirFinkus> you fair weather soylentil
[03:23:14] <SirFinkus> you'll just have to weather the storm
[03:24:25] <takyon> torna-NO
[03:25:02] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[03:25:02] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Scorpions - Rock You Like A Hurricane (PCM Version) - YouTube
[03:27:38] <Deucalion> SirFinkus++ simply for mentioning a Scorpions track from before they should have retired
[03:27:38] <Bender> karma - sirfinkus: 27
[03:27:42] <Runaway1956> Maine is good any time of year - I spent a winter week up on Mt. Katahdin with my boy scout troop in 1980 - good times.
[03:27:58] <SirFinkus> should probably -- me though Deucalion, since it's the only scorpions track I know
[03:31:12] <SirFinkus> irc is boring tonight
[03:31:20] * SirFinkus is watching https://www.youtube.com again
[03:31:26] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Norm Macdonald on the Youtube Big Live Comedy Show - YouTube
[03:31:36] <SirFinkus> Norm is awesome
[03:31:36] <Deucalion> It's from the Love At First Sting album. The Lovedrive album was also tres bon.
[03:33:10] <Deucalion> Animal Magnetism also tres bon IMO... but of course this is all subjective.
[03:33:27] <SirFinkus> I don't go super into that era of metal
[03:33:37] <SirFinkus> I tend to like the heavier stuff
[03:33:47] <SirFinkus> Sabbath, Maiden etc
[03:34:01] <SirFinkus> Pantera too
[03:34:33] <Runaway1956> we are now ranked at 3595 - and still moving up rapidly
[03:34:35] <cmn32480> I like Panera Bread's lighter fare...
[03:34:40] <Runaway1956> http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[03:34:41] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Folding @ Home Teams Overall Rank - EXTREME Overclocking Folding @ Home Stats
[03:35:19] <SirFinkus> yeah, I suspect we've moved past the dead teams, now we're overtaking the smaller active ones
[03:35:55] <Deucalion> I seem to remember the heavier stuff of the era was Megadeth and then slightly later Slayer coming in with the thrash genre. Never got into the death metal / screamo stuff... at least with the likes of Slayer you have a fighting chance of working out what the are shouting about :D
[03:35:58] <SirFinkus> cmn32480 I guess one could say you're a https://www.youtube.com
[03:35:58] <NotAnymore> ^✓ 03BUDGIE - BREADFAN - YouTube
[03:36:01] <Runaway1956> There are still dead teams ahead of us, plenty of them - try this page - http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[03:36:02] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Folding @ Home Teams Overall Rank - EXTREME Overclocking Folding @ Home Stats
[03:36:38] <SirFinkus> NICE
[03:37:31] <SirFinkus> we gotta beat brony@home
[03:37:58] <Deucalion> I claim to be a metal person from that era, but am currently listening to old Pendulum stuff :/ Same vibe to me, just in a very different genre.
[03:38:05] <takyon> hang on
[03:38:10] <cmn32480> SirFinkus - this is more my stlye
[03:38:12] <takyon> how are we even #1
[03:38:23] <SirFinkus> look at the metric
[03:38:43] <cmn32480> 7 day cahge
[03:38:54] <SirFinkus> since we're a new team, we're climbing the ranks super fast
[03:39:01] <SirFinkus> because we started at 0
[03:39:05] <Bytram> SirFinkus: it was the first chance I could take a vacation after the christmas rush...
[03:39:08] <takyon> ok
[03:39:31] <SirFinkus> I haven't even been listening to much metal lately
[03:39:40] <takyon> if I ran Folding@Home on my laptop I think it would turn into goop
[03:40:40] <cmn32480> https://www.youtube.com
[03:40:41] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Blue Oyster Cult - (Don't Fear) The Reaper (Audio) - YouTube
[03:40:56] <SirFinkus> god, one song I can't STAND
[03:41:01] <SirFinkus> so overplayed
[03:41:02] <Runaway1956> F@H needs a good, solid computer. I put it on the wife's hex-core, and had to restrict it to two cores. Cheap heat sink, and I don't know what she used for heat paste. Surely not Silver stuff
[03:41:09] <cmn32480> it jsut needs more cowbell
[03:41:23] <takyon> hex-core? must be amd
[03:41:42] <SirFinkus> hex core? that doesn't sound very Christian Runaway1956
[03:41:44] <Runaway1956> Yeah, AMD FX chip. Mine are Opterons.
[03:41:57] <takyon> overplayed makes a song bad?
[03:42:06] <takyon> hipster logic
[03:42:09] <Runaway1956> My two Opties run circles around her FX, of course.
[03:42:22] <SirFinkus> you never get sick of a song after hearing it to much?
[03:42:28] * Runaway1956 would offer to play cowbess, but it's time for work
[03:42:35] <SirFinkus> I always thought it was mediocre anyway
[03:43:31] <SirFinkus> I like Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden, I shouldn't need to establish my anti-hipster cred
[03:43:39] <SirFinkus> AND I posted a norm macdonald video of him wrecking them
[03:43:55] <cmn32480> Sbabth doens't help that anymore.. .Ozzie was on MTV
[03:44:19] <SirFinkus> mtv isn't hipster really
[03:44:53] <Deucalion> The reaper goes in the same box as Steppenwolf - Born To Be Wild... good in their own right but soo cliche
[03:45:40] <Bytram> at this rate, SN F@H will be ahead of Iowa State University by this time tomorrow, and prolly past Folding@MichiganTech, too.
[03:45:51] <SirFinkus> neat
[03:46:13] <SirFinkus> I suspect we're going to hit a wall pretty soon though
[03:47:08] <cmn32480> yeah
[03:47:13] <cmn32480> prolly pretty likely
[03:47:54] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, I remember experiencing Black Sabbath's first album as an impressionable youth... "Oh lord, please god help me......." - a very dark album, but isn't that the point of music? To make you feel something.
[03:48:20] <SirFinkus> if it doesn't piss someone off, it probably isn't good art imo
[03:48:26] <SirFinkus> or make someone feel uncomfortable
[03:48:37] <cmn32480> some places must have it running on everybody's computer...
[03:50:45] <Runaway1956> Ever been on another crunching team? Teams just tend to fall apart after awhile. People don't check their computers, just lose interest - that's why we're breezing past so many right now.
[03:52:26] <Bytram> if I estimate correctly, at today's rate, in one week we would have moved up from 3595th place to 2800th place or so... not too shabby!
[03:53:46] <Runaway1956> And, that is where we'll hit our brick wall - when we catch up to those who are returning only ~50,000 points per day.
[03:55:23] <takyon> one of these days the whole folding@home concept will be replaced by a couple of quantum computers and all that classical computing power will be obsolete
[03:56:05] <SirFinkus> isn't quantum computing only good at solving very specific types of problems?
[03:56:23] <Bytram> I suspect that is part of the reason we are making such fast progress... I'd expect that the production of many of those teams came from using older/slower tech.
[03:56:41] <Bytram> we can do so much more, so much faster, than could be done a few years ago.
[03:57:44] <takyon> problems with lots of atoms or particles involved are where quantum computers are supposed to excel
[03:57:47] <takyon> [citation needed]
[03:57:51] <Bytram> lol
[03:58:09] <Bytram> and I think, with that, I'm going to call it a night.
[03:58:14] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[03:58:33] <takyon> https://www.google.com
[03:58:34] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Google
[03:58:43] <takyon> most of it relates to D-Wave
[03:59:22] <SirFinkus> if it's good at folding, dwave should have a team
[03:59:31] <SirFinkus> if they blew everyone else out, it'd be good promototion
[03:59:49] <SirFinkus> or if they found like 10 primes with prime95 in a day or something
[04:00:20] * Deucalion is reminded, need to get off ass and reload the dust gathering lump on the floor...
[04:02:07] * Deucalion ponders how much AWS spendage would be required to grab #1 position :D
[04:02:30] * Bytram|away chuckles
[04:02:42] <SirFinkus> can't imagine it'd be cheap
[04:03:14] <Deucalion> depends if it is cpu or gpu bound
[04:03:25] * Bytram|away wonders how many 'spare' cycles AWS were applied to bitcoin mining... for testing purposes, of course
[04:03:53] <SirFinkus> probably not a lot, since cpu mining is a waste of money
[04:04:02] <SirFinkus> they'd lose money on electricity and cooling
[04:04:55] <Bytram|away> AWS also has systems with GPUs, and realize that not that many years ago, one could mine coins on a laptop.
[04:05:10] <SirFinkus> 2010?
[04:05:25] * Bytram|away suspects /. was mining BC on their AWS instances using a baackground proces
[04:05:43] <SirFinkus> curious about the GPU specs
[04:05:51] <Deucalion> most places are now running DCs at ~85F - DCs are no longer the chilly places they used to be. The costs of AC versus hardware reliability at elevated temps turned on their head.
[04:06:01] <Bytram|away> if the site is staying up, and there spare computes available, why NOT use 'em to mine bitcoins?
[04:06:24] <Bytram|away> that would explain why there was a BC article there nearly every wek or so.
[04:06:26] <SirFinkus> if you aren't paying for the electricity, why not?
[04:06:34] <Bytram|away> anyway, time for bed.
[04:06:36] <Bytram|away> laters!
[04:06:39] <SirFinkus> night Bytram|away
[04:06:41] <Deucalion> night Bytram|away
[04:08:27] <Deucalion> I'm sure advances in virtualisation and clustering play into the equation about the choice to not be so anal about hardware longevity within the DC... not really my space but tis interesting.
[04:10:46] <takyon> and passive cooling
[04:10:48] <SirFinkus> that's one kind of neat thing about the "cloud" shit, you can spin up AWS instances to test things without worrying about hardware
[04:12:34] <SirFinkus> things like glacier are neat too
[04:13:01] <SirFinkus> stuff that'd be toughish for a homegamer or a small company
[04:14:52] <SirFinkus> having your day to day documents in "the cloud" is madness though
[04:15:00] <Deucalion> Sure is... let me just try this somewhere it won't possibly impact anything crucial... clickety.... ooh shiny new "server" reporting for duty..... do tests... clickety "Destroy"... well that cost less than a dollar.. but yeh, it's still time-share on a massive scale and the worries over data sovereignty are not to be sniffed at. Still a great resource when used correctly.
[04:15:16] <SirFinkus> oh, office 365 is down today, guess we're not doing anything
[04:15:35] <takyon> here's what's good about the cloud: https://www.youtube.com
[04:15:36] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Second Life: THE MEN OF KEK (Trolling) - YouTube
[04:16:29] <takyon> (NSFW, like Second Life)
[04:18:05] <Deucalion> takyon, the "cloud" is just time-share computing as we've been through many times sine the what.. 60s.. 70s? Just massively scaled out. The risks of remote computing have not really changed, just new generations come along and sales droids sell old concepts as new again... this is not unique to the IT / Tech area.
[04:18:24] <SirFinkus> I just hate the term
[04:18:31] <SirFinkus> it's not anything magic
[04:18:42] <SirFinkus> you're just paying to run shit on someone else's computer
[04:18:47] <takyon> it will be once we add machine learning
[04:18:51] <takyon> pure magick
[04:18:59] <takyon> it will run on magicka
[04:19:09] <SirFinkus> fun game with friends
[04:19:14] <takyon> because the AI assistants will research the dark arts
[04:19:45] * Deucalion plays Black Sabbath to the learning engine... and retires.... muahahahah
[04:20:10] <SirFinkus> love that tritone intro to Black Sabbath
[04:20:16] <SirFinkus> pretty badass
[04:20:34] <SirFinkus> literally called the devils tritone
[04:20:45] <SirFinkus> it'd get you in trouble if you played it back in the day
[04:22:42] <Deucalion> The track "Black Sabbath"?... Dunnn.... Derrrr... Duuuuuurrrr.. it's a menacing intro. I'm not a musician so have no idea why it is so menacing, but it runs right through that track and is chilling.
[04:24:30] <SirFinkus> it's just math, if you look at musical notes as waves instead of notes, it makes a lot of sense
[04:25:06] <takyon> !grab SirFinkus
[04:25:07] <Bender> Added quote 677
[04:27:02] <Deucalion> I'm not sure how the frequency of a wave should invoke an emotional fear response in the recipient - as those tones do. Is that response innate or learned? That sequence of tones is one of impending doom. But why?
[04:27:19] <SirFinkus> it's innate actually
[04:27:37] <Deucalion> cite and why?
[04:28:26] <SirFinkus> pentatonic scales are damn near universal across the world
[04:29:13] <SirFinkus> as far as waves go, consonance and dissonance are very easy to tell apart
[04:29:33] <SirFinkus> dissonant intervals will have a "pulsing" sound when played together
[04:29:47] <SirFinkus> because they're out of phase
[04:30:12] <SirFinkus> they'll sound out of tune, or you'll want to resolve them
[04:31:20] <SirFinkus> Pythagoras (yes, that Pythagoras) actually worked out most of it
[04:32:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Navy Brings Back Celestial Navigation Over GPS Fears - http://sylnt.us - which-way-to-Millinocket?
[04:32:41] <cmn32480> the a2 + b2=c2 guy?
[04:32:46] <SirFinkus> yes
[04:32:57] <SirFinkus> https://en.wikipedia.org
[04:32:57] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Wiki: Pythagorean tuning
[04:32:58] * cmn32480 doens't know how to superscript on irc
[04:33:38] * Deucalion weeps that he cannot live 3000 years
[04:33:59] <SirFinkus> I'm probably not the best person to ask, as I only know a little about music theory
[04:34:27] <SirFinkus> it's probably more math than you think
[04:34:58] <SirFinkus> it's a rabbit hole
[04:35:18] <Deucalion> A little is better than none. One block on another until we collectively understand the world around us.
[04:36:20] <SirFinkus> as I said, it makes a lot of sense if you look at it from the perspective of dissonant/consonant waves
[04:39:05] <takyon> speaking of waves, check out the latest article
[04:39:22] <SirFinkus> yeah, that's neat
[04:43:51] <Deucalion> To me, it just sounds like the entire track is in some discordant minor key. Same goes for War Pigs and Paranoid on the same album. The Wizard track on the other hand is all upbeat but still not in a major key.... it conveys benevolent threat but not imminent doom. Perhaps it is the cowbell :D
[04:44:57] <SirFinkus> yeah, that's engineerable
[04:45:18] <SirFinkus> those more specific evocations are more cultural probably
[04:46:02] * SirFinkus is listening to Black Sabbath — Warning, from the album Black Sabbath
[04:46:08] <SirFinkus> might be my favorite
[04:46:19] <SirFinkus> because of Iommi's awesome solos
[04:48:15] <Deucalion> Ye gads we are back in the days of Tony Iommi and Cozy Powell.... start of an era :D
[04:50:15] <SirFinkus> I love his wanking in warning
[04:50:20] <SirFinkus> it's clearly a guitar wank song
[04:53:47] <Deucalion> As I recall - not a track on the original Black Sabbath album. I have the original vinyl somewhere.... well I know where but it is buried behind crud... but fairly sure "Warning" is not on there.
[04:55:13] <SirFinkus> wiki says it was
[04:55:21] <SirFinkus> last track on side 2
[04:55:44] <SirFinkus> unless you have the NA version
[04:55:54] <takyon> I just submitted a feature request for a "submission draft" to rehash
[04:55:55] <SirFinkus> oh/nm
[04:56:05] <takyon> however I think I can make it in the extension
[04:56:15] <cmn32480> submission of draft?
[04:56:22] <cmn32480> splain, please
[04:56:27] <Deucalion> UK... I think... ~sigh~ goes into crud clearing mode
[04:56:29] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[04:56:30] <NotAnymore> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[04:56:47] <takyon> I want a button that saves the contents, and a button that loads the saved contents
[04:56:49] <SirFinkus> https://en.wikipedia.org(album)#Track_listing
[04:56:50] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Wiki: Black Sabbath (album) ( https://en.wikipedia.org(album) )
[04:57:26] * Deucalion digs to get to stored vinyl... be right with ya
[04:57:39] <SirFinkus> don't complain, it's an excuse to listen to it again
[05:07:51] <takyon> I'm doing it
[05:08:32] <Deucalion> OK spooky... got the 1st vinyl box down from its place of rest.... opened it... and the disks were arranged such that Black Sabbath - Headless Cross was on display and right behind it... the original Black Sabbath album... track 3 on the B side "Warning" according to the cover. I have no means to play this now but the blurry witch on the cover makes me want to put it away again :D I stand corrected. I don't remember that track at all.
[05:09:22] <SirFinkus> you'd probably remember it if you heard it
[05:10:02] <takyon> time to figure out how to make an unclickable button
[05:14:06] <Deucalion> Ahhh, yes now I hear it... I do remember it. Depressive, self-blame / self-pity.... ozzy at his emotive best.
[05:14:38] <Deucalion> I love the tom-toms rumbling away
[05:15:07] <SirFinkus> like 5 minutes in, it just turns into blues guitar wank
[05:15:12] <SirFinkus> which is great
[05:15:39] * Deucalion is at 4:32... taking a break... but I think I remember where this goes....
[05:17:28] * SirFinkus goes off to make a bacon egg and cheese bagel
[05:18:55] <takyon> and here's what it will look like: http://puu.sh
[05:21:25] <cmn32480> bedtime for bonzo....
[05:21:30] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[05:21:32] * exec abnormally poops a wine flute of ciri poo for #soylent
[05:24:03] <Deucalion> Ah yes... here we go... 4:35 on... at least you can still hear the bass and drums... something, something compression wars... loudness wars.... something... then 8:10 reality cuts back in...
[05:26:19] <Deucalion> ~gnight cmn32480
[05:26:21] * exec cohesively drops a socket of chromas tossed salad on cmn32480
[05:26:35] <cmn32480> ewwwwwwww
[05:29:31] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, as things go you could be listening to Yngwie J Malmsteen's guitar histrionics... they dwarf that BS solo in ego terms. Technically talented, sure, but wow... get over your shredding self :D
[05:30:02] <Deucalion> sorry cmn32480 don't have nightmares.
[06:33:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Physicists Discover Easy Way to Measure Entanglement—on a Sphere - http://sylnt.us - you-call-that-"easy"?
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[08:05:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Paper Skin Mimics the Real Thing - http://sylnt.us - will-it-tan?
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[09:14:15] <Gravis> derp. https://i.imgur.com
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[09:16:23] <SirFinkus> god dammit, I'm tired all day and the moment I try to sleep, I'm wide awake
[09:16:29] <SirFinkus> I think I must be naturally nocturnal
[09:16:44] * SirFinkus tries again
[09:36:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rats Exposed to Beijing Air Gain Weight - http://sylnt.us - do-not-breathe-the-air
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[12:46:04] <cmn32480> coffee++
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[12:46:09] * cmn32480 head to a custoemr site
[12:51:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, cmn32480
[12:52:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> The custoemr is alway rgiht.
[12:53:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless they're a user, in which case they're always wrong
[13:39:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Report: VW Told It Must Make Electric Cars in US - http://sylnt.us - corporate-bee-otch
[13:43:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
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[13:44:01] <Bytram|away> coffee++
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[13:44:06] <Bytram|away> !uid
[13:44:06] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6131, owned by LVDOVICVS
[13:46:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, that's almost but not quite a roman numeral
[13:46:57] <Bytram|away> yep, 'S' is invalid char, never mind the absolutely insane ordering of the chars
[13:47:21] <Bytram|away> is, kinda, close to 'ludicrous'
[13:47:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> so is O
[13:47:33] <Bytram|away> nod nod
[13:47:41] <Bytram|away> No O? Nooooo! ;)
[13:48:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[13:49:44] <Bytram|away> at 2016-02-24 @ 23:46:00 SpaceX is scheduled to launch another satellite and then attempt another barge landing after
[13:50:08] <Bytram|away> any of our bots have a way to remember stuff like that and send out an announcement as a reminder?
[14:01:20] <Gravis> "Jason Dalton shot 8 people in three different locations, killing six people" <-- well where were all the good guys with guns?
[14:02:30] <Bytram|away> #submit http://arstechnica.com "We don't know much yet, but the hardware that will clue us in is on its way."
[14:02:30] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[14:03:01] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[14:08:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> Gravis: Has a good guy (who is not a police officer) with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun *ever* made the news? I can't think of an example.
[14:08:35] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: because it doesn't happen
[14:10:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, it happens a hell of a lot. you do not hear about it because an averted massacre does not fit the narrative
[14:11:00] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so it's a global conspiracy?
[14:11:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, no, just a national one.
[14:11:45] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: ok... so you have every news outlet conspiring about guns?
[14:11:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> here's a dozen examples of it happening just from the first google result: http://controversialtimes.com
[14:11:54] <NotAnymore> ^ 0312 Times Mass Shootings Were Stopped by Good Guys With Guns
[14:12:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, no need to conspire, only to drop any story that doesn't fit your leftist narrative.
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[14:13:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> and please tell me the press aren't leftist. please.
[14:13:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> over 80% of them register democrat.
[14:13:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto self-identifying as left or far left
[14:14:05] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so 12 times... there have been more mass shootings this year than that
[14:14:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft
[14:14:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> citation needed
[14:14:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> and, most mass shootings have been happening in gun-free zones.
[14:15:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is another way of saying "please come here and kill people, nobody can stop you"
[14:15:33] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: here you go: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org
[14:15:33] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Mass Shootings - 2016 | Gun Violence Archive
[14:16:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> three is "mass" now?
[14:17:09] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: no, there are have to be 4 people shot to qualify
[14:17:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> huge difference there, yep
[14:17:34] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: that list has #injured and #killed
[14:17:53] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: add them and you will always get at least 4
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[14:18:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> how many of them do you think would have failed to make the list if there were another armed citizen nearby?
[14:19:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> We can't know that there wasn't an armed citizen nearby.
[14:19:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, if there weren't shots fired back, it's a safe bet.
[14:20:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> Bullshit. Even in that link you posted with the 12 example, there's at least one where the armed citizen fired no shots for fear of hitting innocent bystanders.
[14:20:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> we simply have too many "please protect me, officer" pussies in the nation nowadays.
[14:20:59] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so it's the fault of the victims?
[14:21:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, yes, and? 1/12 is a safe bet
[14:21:22] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: victim blaming is your answer to mass shootings?
[14:21:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, damned skippy. if they were armed they could have shot back.
[14:21:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> when it's a preventable problem, fuck yes.
[14:21:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> like i will happily blame grown-ass women for getting raped if they aren't packing.
[14:21:58] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: yeah... it could be prevented by not letting just anyone get a gun
[14:22:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, not an option.
[14:22:24] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: because we need to arm every loon that wants a gun?
[14:22:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, we need to arm every single household.
[14:23:18] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you do know that most gun deaths are accidental, right?
[14:23:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> switzerland does and their crime rates are minimal compared to the rest of europe.
[14:23:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, and?
[14:24:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> most accidental deaths happen around the home. prefer to live on the street out of fear?
[14:24:22] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you would be increasing the number of people that die regardless of if you stop people from doing mass shootings
[14:24:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> you'd also be decreasing a hell of a lot of other crime.
[14:26:11] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so you are willing to sacrifice people's children for a theoretical reduction in burglary?
[14:26:33] <nick> more children might die, but it would be for the right ideological reasons at least
[14:26:54] <Gravis> nick: which ideology is that?
[14:27:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, there are more child-killed gun homocides in the us than accidental gun deaths.
[14:28:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> and teaching basic fucking gun safety solves all but those deserving of a darwin award.
[14:28:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> and yes, nick, i'll take liberty over life every single time.
[14:28:44] <nick> whatever one that starts the personal arms race, when everyone has a gun you just need a better one and to shoot first, if humanity is apparently as cold and brutal as tmb describes
[14:29:07] <nick> i'm not for gun control, even though ive lived all my life without owning or using a gun, or even seeing any really.
[14:29:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, look at switzerland. every house there has an assault rifle. how's crime compared to the uk?
[14:29:38] <nick> but i dont really think the world is as harsh to believe you should be carrying a gun, and if you don't, then you're responsible for being a victim in some way
[14:29:53] <nick> as i said, i'm not for gun control
[14:30:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, if you have the means to prevent something and choose not to use it, it is your fault.
[14:30:11] <nick> but at the same time, say the UK decided to let people have guns, the people wanting them would be the last people that should have them
[14:30:27] <nick> it would take a steep and bloody learning curve for the UK to accept guns again
[14:31:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> take rapes for instance. if the woman is armed, she goes away unraped ~97% of the time.
[14:31:27] <Gravis> well let's just give hand grenades to everyone
[14:31:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, sure, here's yours
[14:31:49] * TheMightyBuzzard pulls the pin and tosses it to Gravis
[14:32:13] <nick> i know people who do not feel comfortable around guns, regardless of all the exposure they've had to them, they do not trust themselves, or other people around them to take proper care of them
[14:32:22] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you are a fool... more specifically, a zealot
[14:32:52] <nick> i don't think those people, sensibly choosing not to carry a weapon, are stupid for doing so. there are lots of precautions you can take, but i don't think having a gun at all times should be a reasonable measure for everyone.
[14:32:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, and you're a tyrant. what's your point.
[14:33:23] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: how am i a tyrant?
[14:33:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, there are ways to solve that. gun education. you fear things you aren't familiar with. become familiar.
[14:33:52] <nick> an example i was thinking of is someone with a lot of exposure, being around guns a lot
[14:33:57] <nick> being around a lot of stupid people with guns
[14:34:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, how are you not? your every breath involves wanting to take rights from others.
[14:34:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> and the right to defend your own life is pretty fucking fundamental.
[14:34:38] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: nope, you got it wrong.
[14:34:54] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i just think some people should not have guns
[14:35:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> and some people shouldn't. those who've used them improperly.
[14:36:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless and until you prove you can't be trusted with one, you should be.
[14:36:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> otherwise you're getting into minority report pre-crimes
[14:36:47] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so you want mentally unstable people to have guns?
[14:37:08] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: it's common sense, not precrime
[14:37:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, show me anyone who's mentally stable.
[14:37:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> tomato, tomahto
[14:38:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> you do not deprive someone of a right unless they have abused it.
[14:38:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> having a moderate or high likelihood is not enough
[14:38:39] <Gravis> plenty of people have abused their right to life. ;)
[14:38:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> on that we can agree. every politician for instance.
[14:39:21] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so you want to put politicians to death?
[14:39:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, it is a time honored tradition.
[14:40:02] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so what's stopping you?
[14:40:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> the rest of you aren't worth saving from them.
[14:41:22] <Gravis> what cop out
[14:41:26] <Gravis> +a
[14:41:29] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[14:41:47] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you're a hypocritical pussy, that's all.
[14:41:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm certainly not going to bother for my own sake.
[14:42:14] <Gravis> you are all talk
[14:42:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a suicide run, i gain no benefit for myself and the rest of you lot aren't worth the life of one good man.
[14:42:38] <Gravis> they have a name for people like you: cowards.
[14:42:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure sure
[14:43:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's what my dd214 says, sure nuff
[14:44:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> now get enough of you pussies to stand up for your own liberty and i'll join you. until then, enjoy the boot on your necks.
[14:44:19] <Gravis> yeah yeah... the coast gaurd, how brave.
[14:44:31] * TheMightyBuzzard rofls
[14:44:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> army
[14:45:28] <Gravis> which unit?
[14:46:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> none nowadays of course
[14:46:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm old and broken down
[14:47:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> last one i was with? hmm.... reserve unit out of norman oklahoma. i forget.
[14:47:32] <Gravis> pff... yeah, making up shit. real brave. sure, i was in the army too... and so was my dog. -_-
[14:47:57] <Runaway1956> Let anyone who wants a gun have one - Darwim will sort them out.
[14:48:00] * TheMightyBuzzard laughs
[14:48:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, exactly
[14:48:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, you can't make me mad. you're not important enough.
[14:48:50] <Runaway1956> I'd rather some dumbass kills himself with a gun, than support his retarded ass for all his life.
[14:48:56] <nick> Runaway1956: let me make sure i'm out of large cities before that becomes a policy
[14:49:11] * Runaway1956 is out of the large cities
[14:49:24] <Gravis> looking forward to purge day
[14:49:32] <nick> lucky you
[14:49:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, yall can keep the no guns thing if you like. soverign nation and all.
[14:49:38] <Runaway1956> I doubt that there is an unarmed neighbor within ten miles of my house
[14:49:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, me too. good luck with it, being unarmed and all.
[14:50:14] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard: it's not me, just a different perspective. if the uk wants guns, they can have them, but i understand the situations which has lead to the population being happily disarmed
[14:50:24] <Gravis> Runaway1956: to be fair, if i was your neighbor, i'd consider killing you too. ;)
[14:50:56] <nick> regardless if that is right or not, my sovereign state reminds me that i am only alive by the grace of the queen, and i should not question what happens in our very old process
[14:51:01] <Runaway1956> No need for that passive aggressive shit, Gravis - open up and tell us what you really mean.
[14:52:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, ya, me too. yall are, in general, in favor of the illusion of safety and one day being much like the last over liberty. it's just yalls thing and more power to yas.
[14:52:35] <nick> the uk can do what it wants, i don't feel a part of it except for having been born here.
[14:53:04] <nick> if the uk wants to leave the eu, reinstate the death penalty and abolish 'human rights', then go for it people, if you think it's your country.
[14:53:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> twenty years ago, forty years ago, i was all kinds of at home being an american. nowadays i barely recognize the place.
[14:53:51] <Gravis> nick: you say that now but just wait until purge day. :P
[14:54:19] <nick> i don't plan on being here
[14:54:49] <Runaway1956> Bring it.
[14:55:09] <nick> it's a different shade of shit from what the US is going through, and where i can relate with tmb, the ends are much the same.
[14:55:44] <nick> in the crudest terms, the 'elite' have selected the worst parts of both UK and US society to model progress on
[14:55:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i heard about yalls speech police bullshit happening on campuses up there
[14:56:01] <nick> and we're headed the same place from different directions
[14:56:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[14:56:54] <nick> i'm sure there's all sorts of bullshit that goes on in the colleges and universities
[14:57:02] * Runaway1956 dreams about wandering around campus, shouting trigger words
[14:57:11] <Runaway1956> I think my son does that . . . .
[14:57:26] <nick> but as i'm essentially a highschool dropout, i didn't get to experience that, except when being paid to go on courses.
[14:57:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> lately they've been big on no-platform-ing speakers who don't toe the PC line
[14:57:43] <nick> and the most i got there was being offended that someone on the staff told me i couldn't eat in the hallways.
[14:58:15] <Runaway1956> That's about the time you should have taken a bite out of that staff member.
[14:58:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> too greasy. gotta watch the old cholesterol
[14:58:40] <nick> i'm not one for implied authority, i'm just having breakfast, you can't tell me what to do
[14:58:58] <nick> i was in shock more than anything, having been out of highschool a few years by then
[14:59:08] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[14:59:36] <nick> i'd driven 30 miles to get there in a company car, and someone says i can't eat a sandwich while i'm being kept waiting?
[14:59:50] <nick> bastards.
[15:00:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'when you look at them and finish your sammich
[15:00:13] <nick> i did
[15:00:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> fight tha powah!
[15:00:26] <nick> my brain couldn't process not doing that, breakfast and all that.
[15:00:49] <Runaway1956> Always, question authority.
[15:01:03] <Runaway1956> "WTF you beating me with those batons?"
[15:01:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> question, hell, always give authority the finger. and kick it in the nuts if you can manage.
[15:01:56] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard: find that an interesting perspective from someone with a military background
[15:01:59] <Runaway1956> Today, authority guns you down before you get close enough to kick them in the nuts.
[15:02:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, good authority takes care of its business and doesn't interfere with yours.
[15:02:34] <Runaway1956> HA HA! Nick, it's a very common attitude amongst veterans. 8 years Navy here.
[15:03:15] <Runaway1956> Veterans understand authority - where it derives from, where it begins and where it ends.
[15:03:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> damnit, now Gravis has me wondering wtf unit i was with last. it's gonna bug me all day but i'm not digging through paperwork.
[15:03:22] <Runaway1956> We also understand power.
[15:03:49] <nick> Runaway1956: to a point you're right with that, but equal number of the veterns i've encountered have decided they're the authority.
[15:04:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> also, we CHOSE to enlist. having that be our decision makes all the difference.
[15:04:42] <Runaway1956> In the US, "we" are the authority - "we the people". Washington D.C. has no power that we do not grant to them. And, Washington hates us for reminding them.
[15:06:14] <nick> ok i think i understand a little better now
[15:06:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'like with pj being boss dev. i can either choose to listen to his authority or i can choose not to and fuck off to greener pastures.
[15:06:46] <Runaway1956> Except - there ain't no cake, Buzz.
[15:06:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yeah, there are some dickwads in the military who can't wait for a pair of jackboots.
[15:07:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell of a lot more of them in the cops though
[15:07:16] <Runaway1956> Most of those become policemen when they get out
[15:07:24] <Runaway1956> https://www.rt.com
[15:07:26] <NotAnymore> ^ 03‘OK, big brother’: Turkish military cooperate with ISIS on border, telephone calls reveal — RT News ( https://www.rt.com )
[15:07:31] <Runaway1956> More Turkish genocide.
[15:07:59] <Runaway1956> I've skimmed enough headlines - headed for bed - have fun!
[15:08:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. cyas.
[15:08:06] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard: from your and Runaway1956's perspectives, i think it probably helps that 'America' the army you joined, is more of an idea that you can believe in. Whereas my perspective on say the british armed forces can't really engage with the UK/Britain as an idea.
[15:09:02] <nick> more of a 'if you're lucky, the queen might walk by you one day in a parade, or perhaps you get killed having to protect her grandchildren on the battlefield'
[15:09:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, bit of a cultural disconnect. even though we're somewhat similar, we ain't the same.
[15:09:25] <nick> not saying that people don't do it in the UK for very good reasons, but it's not as easy to associate i'd say
[15:09:46] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $697
[15:10:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> here it's basically two reasons. to protect your home/family and because you get to play with really cool stuff.
[15:10:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Use 3D Printing to Make Ultrafast Graphene Supercapacitor - http://sylnt.us - all-graphene-all-the-time
[15:12:45] <nick> i need to go get some lunch or something
[15:12:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i'm pondering breakfast myself
[15:13:02] <nick> i'd imagine 'the cool stuff' is for many the carrot that you never quite reach?
[15:13:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, at the very least everyone gets to shoot their rifle and toss a couple grenades
[15:13:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> but there is always cooler stuff, yeah
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[16:22:13] * nick watches the tumbleweeds on his return
[16:24:03] <nick> i managed to acquire some bacon, so bacon sammiches now
[16:24:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> Hey nick, are you in the UK?
[16:24:43] <nick> aye
[16:25:45] <nick> hopefully not much longer, but am currently resident
[16:25:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> do me a favor, go find the jackass who used my GMail address to register for an account with tesco.com and give him a kick in the nuts for me.
[16:26:11] * AndyTheAbsurd is kidding and understands that the UK is much too big for that to be feasible
[16:27:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> It wouldn't piss me off so much if tesco didn't want a confirmation of the post code used when the account was created in order to reset the password.
[16:32:45] <nick> next time i'll go to tesco and see who registered an account online recently
[16:39:15] <nick> bbq sauce all down my fleece :|
[16:41:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China Pressing Ahead With Orbiter and Lander Mission to Mars - http://sylnt.us - well-it-is-the-red-planet-after-all
[16:57:48] <nick> hugh pickens submission/journal on 'time to kill the $100 bill'
[16:59:46] <nick> "Lawrence Summers, the former Treasury secretary and former adviser to President Obama, has argued that the United States should get rid of the $100 bill. "The fact that in certain circles the 500 euro note is known as the “Bin Laden” confirms the arguments against it," says Sanders. "Technology is obviating whatever need there may ever have been for high denomination notes in legal commerce."
[16:59:46] <nick> "
[17:00:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> AFAIK, hardly anyone uses $100 regularly anyway
[17:00:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> The largest bills I see in regular circulation are $50s.
[17:01:14] <nick> similar here to not seeing £50s
[17:01:14] <mechanicjay> AndyTheAbsurd: same here. $100's are viewed with skeptecism by many retailers.
[17:02:00] <mechanicjay> The only places I see 100's regularly are Hardware stores where contractors frequent (and there is a lot of cash business going on ) and grocery stores...for whatever reason.
[17:02:02] <nick> the us seems to have done ok at keeping notes in circulation, here they seem to like to change them every few years so you can't keep a cash stash buried in the yard for too long.
[17:02:33] <nick> and of course now, for the final phase of physical currency they're going with the 'plastic' notes are heavy lobbying by the company who makes plastic notes for other countries.
[17:02:53] <nick> are/after
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[17:08:53] * nick still quite unhappy about 'contactless' payments upto £30
[17:10:12] <nick> $70 in cash is 'suspicious' spending upto $40 potentially by accident is apparently fine.
[17:21:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> Of course! We know you can't be responsible with your money so we're going to force you to be irresponsible with it!
[17:42:08] <nick> http://moneyweek.com
[18:12:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Only 37% of Retailers in the US Can Process Chip-embedded Cards, Survey Says - http://sylnt.us - giving-credit-where-credit-is-due
[20:14:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Volvo Recalls 59,000 Cars Over Software Issue - http://sylnt.us - loving-software-bugs-in-our-hardware
[20:34:46] <crutchy> ~tell Bytram exec has a ~remind command that you can use to remind the channel when the spacex thing happens
[20:34:48] <exec> message saved
[20:35:21] <crutchy> ~tell Bytram just gotta work out the time between is the tricky bit
[20:35:23] <exec> message saved
[20:37:23] <crutchy> ooh
[20:37:24] <crutchy> http://www.spacex.com
[20:37:24] <NotAnymore> ^ 03SES-9 MISSION | SpaceX
[20:37:31] <crutchy> gives a countdown for you :D
[20:37:39] <crutchy> ~remind
[20:37:44] <crutchy> derp
[20:37:51] <crutchy> guess i gotta rtfsc :|
[20:41:28] <crutchy> ~remind 1620 mins Reminder that SpaceX launch will be in about 5 minutes. See it live at http://www.spacex.com
[20:41:30] <exec> error: invalid unit
[20:41:30] <exec> syntax: ~remind value min|m|sec|s [optional msg to display]
[20:41:35] <crutchy> derp
[20:41:40] <crutchy> ~remind 1620 min Reminder that SpaceX launch will be in about 5 minutes. See it live at http://www.spacex.com
[20:41:42] <exec> *** reminder set for crutchy: Reminder that SpaceX launch will be in about 5 minutes. See it live at http://www.spacex.com
[20:43:31] <crutchy> should work unless exec chucks a wobbly
[20:44:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> is that 1620 UTC tomorrow?
[20:45:13] <crutchy> nfi :p
[20:45:22] <crutchy> the webcast page just says 1d 3h
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[21:45:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Receives Record Number of Astronaut Applicants - http://sylnt.us - following-in-the-footsteps-of-giants
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[22:56:47] <paulej72> milf
[23:00:32] <takyon> zip it up paul
[23:00:34] <chromas> pic or it didn't happen
[23:00:46] <chromas> or ascii representation
[23:11:22] <paulej72> _..-=._
[23:11:22] <paulej72> .' \
[23:11:22] <paulej72> / /`'--. \ - DP
[23:11:22] <paulej72> / h,.. _| |
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[23:11:23] <paulej72> | ) .> ) \
[23:11:25] <paulej72> / ).`='/ \ - SNOWBALLS
[23:11:27] <paulej72> L_..--/ _`-'--... \
[23:11:29] <paulej72> / \ 3 - MILF
[23:11:31] <paulej72> / \/
[23:11:33] <paulej72> / Y ,. \ \ - FISTING
[23:11:35] <paulej72> / / , | Y`. \
[23:11:37] <paulej72> | _/\ c . \ c /| \ \ - FURRIES
[23:11:39] <paulej72> \ \ `r' `-=-' / \ \
[23:11:41] <paulej72> \ \j | / / - BDSM
[23:11:45] <paulej72> \_ c | ,' ,'
[23:11:47] <paulej72> 7 | \7' .' - HOMOS
[23:11:49] <paulej72> L_/ _ ,-' .'
[23:11:51] <paulej72> / ^ L___/ - GAG FACTOR
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[23:11:55] <paulej72> | L - M2A
[23:11:57] <paulej72> | . , |
[23:11:59] <paulej72> \ \l/ F - DVDA
[23:12:01] <paulej72> F / /
[23:12:03] <paulej72> \ J : - VANESSA DEL RIO (SO DISGUSTING SHE GETS
[23:12:05] <paulej72> \ | F HER OWN CATEGORY)
[23:12:07] <paulej72> \ F /
[23:12:09] <paulej72> \| / cjr
[23:12:58] <takyon> are you high, drunk, or just plain bored?
[23:13:27] <takyon> there's no wrong answer
[23:14:33] <chromas> well, he has been working on perl/rehash, so there's that
[23:16:41] <takyon> http://www.vice.com
[23:16:41] <NotAnymore> ^ 03The Nation of Islam Promised to Protect Beyoncé if the Cops Won't | VICE | United States
[23:16:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Tragedy of Errors — Mistakes in Peer-Reviewed Papers are Easy to find but Hard to Fix - http://sylnt.us - more-research-needs-more-research
[23:17:22] <takyon> http://www.tomshardware.com
[23:17:24] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Dual-Screen Siam 7x Smartphone Beats The Odds, Hits The Market
[23:19:29] <paulej72> why do I need two screens on a phone
[23:19:48] <paulej72> its not like its a flip phone
[23:20:26] <paulej72> and no matter what side is sdown I scratch a screen
[23:20:50] <chromas> You need two screens so we can read your texts and porn backward
[23:21:07] <chromas> it makes reverse cowgirl into regular cowgirl
[23:29:57] <Gravis> no, it's so when you are talking on the phone, the other side changes to, "FUCK OFF, CLOWNS!"
[23:30:22] <Gravis> and if you are like, "well won't your hand be in the way?" then you are holding it wrong!
[23:32:03] <takyon> well that russian... what was it, yotaphone? had a good premise: one regular screen and one e-ink screen, so you can read with more battery life
[23:32:16] <paulej72> you hold it flat as a table with one had with the speaker side pointed to your mouth. THat is how I see people talk on theire phones
[23:33:22] <Gravis> oh, it's the, "no i don't mind putting you on speaker phone" mode
[23:35:10] <Gravis> aka, "yeah, everyone wants to hear my phone calls" mode
[23:38:25] <Gravis> smartphones make for shitty phones and shitty computers but somehow being shitty at multiple things makes it smart
[23:40:06] <takyon> it's the camera you always have on you
[23:40:31] <takyon> GPS, calls, web browsing
[23:41:20] <Gravis> yeah... and it's shitty at everyone of those things.
[23:41:26] <Gravis> every one*
[23:42:31] <takyon> shitty at calls, really?
[23:42:51] <takyon> what are you even talking about? sound quality? reception?
[23:42:56] <Gravis> yeah... it requires near constant charging
[23:43:21] <takyon> put it in power saving mode
[23:43:43] <Gravis> that sacrifices all the other things it's shitty at
[23:44:13] <takyon> not really
[23:45:54] <Gravis> well it's using the other shitty functions that causes the battery to be expended
[23:46:37] <Gravis> it might make a decent phone if that's all you used it for
[23:47:37] <takyon> the ARM chips used in phones have had big improvements every generation
[23:48:00] <takyon> are you talking about a phone in your pocket, every phone you've ever used, something from 5 years ago, what?
[23:48:06] <Gravis> sure... now it can last a day and a half!
[23:48:39] <takyon> plugging it in at the end of the day is not such a chore
[23:48:58] <takyon> since presumably you end up sleeping and near an outlet once every 24 hours
[23:49:28] <Gravis> not a chore, just makes it a shitty phone
[23:49:49] <takyon> nothing will ever be good enough for you, Gravis
[23:50:03] <Gravis> my cell phone goes weeks before needing to be charged
[23:50:38] <takyon> there you go then
[23:51:00] <Gravis> takyon: yeah, it's a good phone. it's not a shitty smartphone.
[23:51:04] <takyon> if I see a significant dumbphone launch, I'll report on it
[23:51:23] <takyon> I think I saw a MediaTek 6-core put in a flip phone last year
[23:53:03] <Gravis> takyon: actually, i have already thought about what would constitute a good smartphone and the truth is that our technology just isn't advanced enough
[23:53:46] <takyon> what's that
[23:54:30] <takyon> do you have an Ubuntu Edge-esque vision? something flat and bendy? way better battery?
[23:56:19] <Gravis> sticks to your skin (gecko style), it's paper thin and the (passive) display is also a solar cell
[23:57:00] <Gravis> oh and it's strechy
[23:59:07] <Gravis> the electronics would be based on a different tech, QCA (quantum dot cellular automata) rather than CMOS.
[23:59:55] <Gravis> the technology should exist in about 50 years