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[00:00:44] <crutchy> soylent philosophy channel :p
[00:01:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> my farts theory also does a lot to explain why women are more crabby than men. they hold that shit in until they can do it stealthily and gotta deal with the discomfort.
[00:02:25] <crutchy> i don't blame them. period farts are something else
[00:04:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i gotter go get some steaks charring.
[00:31:03] <SirFinkus> and another one joins the botnet
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[00:44:34] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[00:44:39] <SirFinkus> just got a really promising job offer
[00:45:21] <Subsentient> Yeeeeahhh. That's really really sketchy.
[00:45:53] <SirFinkus> what? they said they were a reputable company
[00:45:58] <SirFinkus> looks legit to me
[00:46:00] <SirFinkus> fucking google
[00:46:06] <SirFinkus> they classed this as "spam"
[00:46:08] <SirFinkus> I almost missed out
[00:46:33] <SirFinkus> so today it's trump clinton
[00:46:51] <takyon> aww
[00:46:56] * SirFinkus gets the marshmallows for when the world burns
[00:48:04] * Subsentient really really wants Bernie Sanders to be the next president
[00:48:50] <nick> if it becomes trump-clinton i assume clinton will win
[00:48:58] <takyon> clinton be gone plz
[00:49:11] <SirFinkus> he seems to be the least bad of the people actually likely to win
[00:49:43] <nick> trump-sanders is the only way the election can actually make any tangible difference by the time it's over
[00:49:46] <SirFinkus> I like how he doesn't shrink from the whole "socialist" thing, makes me respect him
[00:49:52] <SirFinkus> I can engage with that
[00:50:01] <SirFinkus> even if I'm not a socialist
[00:50:10] <Subsentient> I'm worried that if Bernie wins, he'll be assassinated by the rich. I'm hoping if Trump wins, he'll be assassinated by a patriot.
[00:50:30] <SirFinkus> you're on his list now
[00:50:50] <takyon> if you haven't heard, patriots with guns like Trump
[00:51:06] <Subsentient> Oh, hi NSA! Why don't you go suck the Hulk's nut creme from your grandmother's infected pussy!
[00:51:10] * SirFinkus is a patriot with guns
[00:51:13] <SirFinkus> fucking hate trump
[00:51:35] <SirFinkus> easily the worst candidate
[00:51:40] <SirFinkus> fun to watch though
[00:51:51] <nick> seems to represent 'merica quite well though
[00:51:56] <Subsentient> I get a kick out of how Cruz was born in Canada.
[00:52:05] <takyon> n a t u r a l b o r n
[00:52:07] <SirFinkus> so does trump, apparently
[00:52:17] <takyon> I got a kick out of Trump repeating the birther routine, this time with Cruz
[00:52:23] <Subsentient> Yeah I know his mother was an american citizen, so he's a natural citizen.
[00:52:37] <Subsentient> but it's still kinda ironic
[00:52:45] <Subsentient> especially for someone who wants to be the president.
[00:52:57] <takyon> I wasn't trying to teach you something Subsentient, I just wanted to put that phrase in your mind in Trump's voice
[00:53:02] <takyon> in slow-mo
[00:53:28] <SirFinkus> trump is the villian in a book or movie you despise, but you're kind of sorry to see die
[00:53:32] <SirFinkus> "that motherfucker..."
[00:53:44] <SirFinkus> I wouldn't go so far as to call him a magnificent bastard
[00:53:47] <SirFinkus> but he's a good villian
[00:53:58] <Subsentient> villain*
[00:53:59] <takyon> so he's a pro wrestler
[00:54:12] <takyon> in fact he even wrestled the WWE president or whatever
[00:54:16] <takyon> "wrestled"
[00:54:21] <SirFinkus> oh yes
[00:54:24] <takyon> i meant play manchild games with
[00:54:25] <SirFinkus> when he "bought" the wwe
[00:58:48] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[00:59:51] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:00:16] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: Thanks, couldn't find the whole image.
[01:01:24] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: http://i.imgur.com
[01:02:53] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:03:31] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: LOL
[01:03:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> $burrito Subsentient
[01:03:36] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Subsentient
[01:03:41] <SirFinkus> the ice cubes sell it
[01:03:55] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:04:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn but i burn a mean steak
[01:04:02] <Subsentient> $burrito TheMightyBuzzard
[01:04:02] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at TheMightyBuzzard
[01:05:01] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:05:48] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:05:53] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:06:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ♫ One, two, three four five / Once I caught a fish alive / Six, seven, eight nine ten / Then I let it go again / Why did you let it go / Cause it bit my finger so / Which finger did it bite / This little finger on the right ♫
[01:07:14] <SirFinkus> if some asshole fish bit my finger, I'd eat it
[01:07:36] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:08:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> got that stuck in my head now cause the roomie dredged it back up for his daughter who used to sing the utter hell out of it back when she was three.
[01:08:12] <Subsentient> How I feel as a vegetarian a lot of the time: http://i.imgur.com
[01:08:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> vegetarian? nothing wrong with that. some of my finest meals have been vegetarian.
[01:09:03] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:09:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> in fact the cow i ate a slab of tonight was a vegetarian.
[01:10:22] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:11:31] <SirFinkus> so we're throwing down
[01:12:04] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:12:52] <takyon> is that for real
[01:12:59] <SirFinkus> I hope so
[01:13:01] <SirFinkus> but idk
[01:13:05] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:14:10] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:14:17] * SirFinkus goes meta
[01:14:52] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: Hehe, I remember that article.
[01:15:03] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:16:47] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:17:14] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: http://i.imgur.com
[01:17:47] <SirFinkus> oh, we're going there?
[01:17:53] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:18:04] <SirFinkus> slightly obscure, but hilarious
[01:18:17] <SirFinkus> pick on the left is hitler's mother
[01:18:53] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:19:04] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
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[01:19:13] <SirFinkus> oh, I have entire folder of those
[01:19:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, trump won SC. troll powah.
[01:19:51] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:20:18] <Subsentient> Other than the 9/11 thing, that last one was adorable
[01:20:39] <SirFinkus> woody with tits?
[01:20:45] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:21:14] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:21:23] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: no
[01:21:25] <Subsentient> the spongebob one
[01:21:43] <takyon> trump had an eventful week
[01:21:44] <SirFinkus> I've got more spongebob
[01:21:48] <SirFinkus> but they'Re bad
[01:22:07] <takyon> really all the feuds he gets into just fuel his campaign. beefing with the pope grabs attention.
[01:22:56] <cmn32480> !woop
[01:22:56] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[01:22:58] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: http://i.imgur.com
[01:23:04] <cmn32480> takin the wife to the Big Easy!
[01:23:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Singapore Team to Support "The Next Billion Users" - http://sylnt.us - collecting-your-information-one-person-at-a-time
[01:23:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, man knows his trolling.
[01:23:40] <cmn32480> on works' dime!
[01:23:42] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:24:20] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:24:22] <Subsentient> sirecote: http://i.imgur.com
[01:24:24] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: http://i.imgur.com
[01:25:19] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:25:29] <SirFinkus> fuck, do I not have the paris hilton chicken gif?
[01:25:31] <SirFinkus> I suck
[01:25:46] <takyon> so much imgur
[01:26:16] <takyon> hexchat needs imgur integration
[01:26:23] <takyon> tooltip image previews
[01:26:27] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: http://i.imgur.com
[01:26:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> if it gets it i'm switching to BitchX
[01:26:55] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:27:25] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:27:38] <SirFinkus> a lot of my shit I'd just get straight up banned for posting lol
[01:28:06] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:28:11] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: same
[01:28:24] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:29:44] <cmn32480> post it in # and we cna blame the bots
[01:30:14] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: http://i.imgur.com
[01:30:34] <lopple> what is this fecal frenzy
[01:30:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> lopple, beats me. i've been paying them no attention.
[01:31:04] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: http://i.imgur.com
[01:32:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ooooh, hey, i got some piratical tv i ain't watched yet
[01:32:22] <SirFinkus> 419eater is pretty neat
[01:32:46] <takyon> does 419eater still get updated
[01:33:51] <SirFinkus> not sure
[01:37:59] <takyon> http://www.marketwatch.com
[01:38:00] <snowfire> ^ 03Is America’s military the No. 1 fighting force in the world — or not? - MarketWatch
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[02:07:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot, jeb dropped out of the race
[02:07:52] <SirFinkus> is he refunding the guacabolwes?
[02:08:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> politicians refund? never happen.
[02:08:48] <SirFinkus> https://jeb2016.com
[02:08:49] <snowfire> ^ 03Guaca Bowle | Jeb 2016 ( https://jeb2016.com )
[02:08:52] <SirFinkus> just a reminder
[02:09:01] <SirFinkus> $
[02:09:01] <aqu4> The burrito command requires an argument.
[02:09:03] <SirFinkus> 7
[02:09:06] <SirFinkus> 5
[02:09:09] <SirFinkus> U
[02:09:11] <SirFinkus> S
[02:09:12] <SirFinkus> D
[02:10:17] <JamesNZ> I'd buy that for a dollar!
[02:10:40] * SirFinkus wonders if they'll go on clearance
[02:10:58] <SirFinkus> it'd get me anachronistic hipster cred
[02:11:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair warning, we shoot people with hipster cred round these parts.
[02:11:46] * SirFinkus isn't round those parts
[02:11:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't mean you can't stay, mind you.
[02:12:00] <SirFinkus> fair warning, I shoot back
[02:12:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> wtf kinda hipster packs?
[02:12:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> you just lost all hipster cred.
[02:12:49] <SirFinkus> I think I've seen hipsters posing for photographs with over/under shotguns
[02:14:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't be real ones. even retro it'd get them kicked out of the club.
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[02:15:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine then tv
[02:30:28] <SirFinkus> da cluuab
[02:40:23] * cmn32480 goes to pack for the next trip
[02:40:48] <cmn32480> <sigh>
[02:54:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Sue State Police Over 'Pro-Prosecution' DNA Lab - http://sylnt.us - unbiased-science-is-important
[04:25:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook to Extend Suicide Prevention Tools to the UK - http://sylnt.us - hear-to-help
[04:28:55] <chromas> Suicideists
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[04:41:07] <Deucalion> I thought I read over/under shotties were more accurate than side by side barrels. Certainly the vertical stacked barrels seem to be the choice for the game shooting toffs in the UK with enough spare cash to buy the things. Wouldn't know myself, just hearsay.
[04:42:41] <SirFinkus> not a huge difference, but I think it's easier to adjust aim vertically rather than horizontally
[04:42:55] * SirFinkus is not a major shooter of skeet
[04:43:04] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - http://www.cnet.com
[04:43:05] <snowfire> ^ 03Fallout 4 expansion plan includes 'several more' than the three announced so far - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[04:43:13] * Deucalion starts to wonder about the sanity of a well known VPS provider that puts people in positions such as "Customer Success Engineer" - wtf is one of those?
[04:44:53] <SirFinkus> think that's bad? look at this job offer I just got
[04:44:53] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[04:45:33] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, I'm not a shooter of anything other than in vidya games. Not sure I could justify a shottie license living where I do (suburb / commuterville for London).
[04:46:03] <Deucalion> so - a mystery shopper position
[04:46:17] <Deucalion> common shit in the retail world
[04:46:27] <SirFinkus> totally unsoliced too
[04:46:39] <SirFinkus> foolish google put it in my spam folder
[04:46:42] <SirFinkus> almost missed out
[04:47:04] <Deucalion> lol - I'd not be surprised to here it came via LinkedIn :D
[04:47:08] <Deucalion> hear*
[04:47:29] <SirFinkus> I'll never sign up for linkedln, I don't give a fuck if I don't get a job because of it
[04:47:37] <SirFinkus> or get any "networking"
[04:47:59] <SirFinkus> "yes, please mine my contacts, spoof my email, and sign me up for all the spam lists please"
[04:50:20] <Deucalion> IME it's not bad as long as you don't put too much detail on your job history. As soon as you put any detail there, ~blam~ the recruitment bots spam the fuck out of you based on asinine keyword matching. And yeh... certainly never install a LinkedIn App to anything... it will go hunting for contacts "for your convenience".
[04:50:54] <Deucalion> Like an unruly child I guess
[04:51:06] <SirFinkus> I don't trust them, and I don't want to implicitly endorse them by providing any information to them
[04:52:32] <Deucalion> I really don't understand the mentality of those that pay for the "premium" levels of LinkedIn-ness.
[04:52:46] <SirFinkus> it's called retardation
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[05:20:04] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[05:20:06] * exec abrasively tosses a bucket of skittles to #soylent
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[06:27:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Tuberculosis Test for Active Infections - http://sylnt.us - that-is-the-question
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[08:28:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Team Measures Lightning-Produced Ozone With Lidar - http://sylnt.us - lidar-doesn't-lie-baby
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[09:59:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Homeopathy Effective for 0 Out of 68 Illnesses. - http://sylnt.us - whatever-works-or-doesn't
[10:38:33] <chromas> rounding error
[10:39:00] <chromas> It is effective; it's just that the positive results are diluted down to 1 per 100,000,000
[10:39:43] * chromas crossposts
[10:44:17] <crutchy> its just medical journal fluff
[10:44:32] <crutchy> some natural remedies work for some people some of the time
[10:45:46] <crutchy> the odds of some biased medical professor finding cases that show that homeopathy works is likely 0 out of 68
[10:46:55] <crutchy> it demonstrates more about the professor's failure to investigate than it does about any supposed failure of homeopathy
[10:47:29] <crutchy> media loves statistical-based evidence though
[10:47:48] <crutchy> not that i care much for homeopathy
[10:47:57] <crutchy> i don't even like massages
[10:48:01] * chromas puts a rock salt lamp in crutchy's corner
[10:48:12] * chromas gives crutchy a happy ending
[10:48:21] <crutchy> rock salt lamps look pretty :)
[10:48:47] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[10:48:47] <snowfire> ^ 03Happy Ending | Robot Chicken | Adult Swim - YouTube
[10:49:04] <chromas> yeah but that also purify the toxic wifis in your air
[10:50:27] <crutchy> it would be ironic if the professor dude was into zen design
[10:50:42] <crutchy> "homeopathy is a crock, but zen works man!"
[10:50:58] <chromas> isn't zen just a mental thing?
[10:51:10] <crutchy> probably, but a lot of medicine is too
[10:51:17] <chromas> like homeopathy
[10:51:22] <crutchy> likely
[10:51:37] <chromas> seems then that zen really does work
[10:51:58] <chromas> if you think it helped, then it did it's jerb of making you think it helped :)
[10:52:11] * chromas installs a VM in his brain to relax
[10:53:31] <crutchy> its probably why the placebo effect is so powerful
[10:54:02] <chromas> the placebo effect doesn't really work. people just think it does
[10:54:12] <crutchy> most the supposedly officially tested drugs probably don't do as much as they claim either
[10:54:17] <crutchy> lol
[10:54:20] <crutchy> !grab chromas
[10:54:20] <Bender> Added quote 676
[10:54:32] * chromas slips people drugs and tells them it's really just sugar pill
[10:54:57] <chromas> except for the side effects
[10:55:17] <crutchy> the side effects are just the illness getting worse. better up the dose
[10:55:21] <chromas> and brainraping those who dare quit cold tofurky
[10:56:02] <chromas> I imagine most of the "possible side effects" are just things that happened to people that they couldn't account for
[10:56:21] <chromas> if it's good, it's intended, if it's bad, then it's a "possible side effect"
[10:56:37] <crutchy> "hmm we have no fucking idea why that happened, but it only happened to one guy so meh lets sell it anyway :D"
[10:57:20] <chromas> 1 is statistically insignificant
[10:57:20] <crutchy> "trust us, we're experts"
[10:57:27] <chromas> ignore the sample size of 5
[10:57:52] <crutchy> 1 out of 5. that's like only 0.00002%
[10:58:12] <chromas> well obviously it couldn't be a fraction of a guy so one guy's just a rounding error
[10:58:16] <crutchy> cos you have to take into account the population of penguins in antarctica
[10:58:34] <crutchy> and the temperature of uranus
[10:58:45] <crutchy> normal people can't fathom these statistics
[10:59:12] <chromas> besides, number 2 had multiple personalities so technically she counts as 11 people
[10:59:35] <chromas> (side effects may include multipld personality disorder)
[10:59:41] <crutchy> and we photocopied number 3's results, so that added a few thousand more
[11:01:29] <crutchy> cadbury_snack++ # from the if-they-sold-it-in-pills-and-said-it-would-cure-everything-they-would-make-a-fortune dept.
[11:01:29] <Bender> karma - cadbury_snack: 1
[11:01:51] <crutchy> soo yummy
[11:02:08] <crutchy> coffee++ # to wash it down
[11:02:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2264
[11:05:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:05:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2265
[11:06:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ as well though. back in 10
[11:06:09] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 28
[11:21:42] <Gravis> still funny: https://soylentnews.org
[11:21:42] <snowfire> ^✓ 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:2)
[11:22:18] <Gravis> erm... snowfire's count is wrong. <_<
[11:22:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> whose what is huh?
[11:24:16] * TheMightyBuzzard nods to self
[11:25:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, that reencode should do. 23.5GB down to 5.9GB
[11:27:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, the mod count. yep sure nuff.
[11:49:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[11:49:04] <snowfire> ^✓ 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:2)
[11:49:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> varnish caching maybe?
[11:51:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, heh, dude you mod bombed yesterday was one of your upmodders on that comment.
[11:52:25] <chromas> bot caching
[11:52:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[11:54:39] <chromas> =set .config/title.cache.timeout 20
[11:54:39] <snowfire> k
[11:57:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> =set the table so i don't have to
[11:57:08] <snowfire> ## Error in cell reference: missing hive name
[11:57:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, the bot takes set commands from me? FOOLISH MORTAL!!!
[12:01:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kanye West Reportedly Considering Legal Action Against Pirate Bay Over Life of Pablo - http://sylnt.us - is-this-guy-serious?
[12:03:04] <chromas> the permissions limit what variables can be set
[12:03:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, that's fairly forward thinking and fine grained for an irc bot
[12:03:38] <chromas> it's not very good, but hopefully it doesn't let you get muh password
[12:03:42] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: he's also one of my few friends but he was trolling.
[12:03:57] <crutchy> =set .config/dogfart.is.bad.mkay
[12:04:37] <crutchy> ~set dogfart = 1
[12:04:38] <exec> 13error: invalid path
[12:04:46] <crutchy> ~set ./dogfart = 1
[12:04:47] <exec> 13var "dogfart" set to "1" in path "/."
[12:06:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, might've been but ya gotta stop at four points a day even if ya think they deserve twenty.
[12:08:13] <chromas> Maybe modding one person multiple times can just cost extra mod points, or burn karmas
[12:08:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... thas not a bad idear but people get cranky when i talk about moderation reworking.
[12:09:26] <chromas> I guess that means crutchy should become staff and talk about it instead ;)
[12:09:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> he should become bytram's minion as much as he likes breaking things.
[12:10:02] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: people get cranky over everything. see facebook, see twitter.
[12:10:15] <chromas> also, see Gravis :D
[12:10:24] * Runaway1956 needs nothing to be cranky about
[12:10:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, this is true. chromas, this is extra true with sprinkles.
[12:10:41] <chromas> titty sprinkles?
[12:10:52] * chromas tries to turn Runaway1956 over
[12:11:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno and i'm leery of telling Gravis tits or gtfo
[12:11:26] <Runaway1956> Oh - sprinkles - women at work had cupcakes for everyone for Valentines. After consuming my first cake, I observed that the sprinkles were all heart shaped.
[12:11:49] <Runaway1956> Someone else observed that an engineer somewhere had to design the stupid machinery to make those tiny hearts.
[12:11:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, better than bachelor party sprinkles. they're cock n balls shaped.
[12:11:55] <Gravis> then again... some people ignore cranky people and you get a mozilla shit sandwhich
[12:12:06] <Gravis> sandwich*
[12:12:16] <Runaway1956> No one just ignores a cranky old bastard - no one.
[12:12:18] <chromas> mmm, mozilla cheese
[12:12:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> or /. under dice, yep.
[12:12:48] <Gravis> the new management seems to be an improvement
[12:13:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed, i'm quite hopeful for them.
[12:13:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean they talk a good game at least.
[12:15:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> the cranky partially why me and pj are keeping the comments reworking we're doing sooper sekrit. some people just got no faith we won't make things worse instead of better.
[12:16:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> the main reason being that it's fun to drop bombs of awesome on folks that they totally weren't expecting.
[12:17:12] <chromas> after the initial rollout of beta, dice kept their reworking so secret that we didn't even see it when they brought out beta the second time
[12:17:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[12:17:52] <chromas> will your css-ony collapse/expand system allow expand-all?
[12:18:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> won't be any secret about this once it's released. most everyone will notice it right off.
[12:18:46] <Gravis> chromas: the exand-all would have to be javascript based
[12:19:18] <chromas> js--
[12:19:18] <Bender> karma - js: -3
[12:19:21] <Gravis> specifically it would lookup the element in the DOM by class and then alter them
[12:19:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, it would because of thresholds. otherwise it could all be done by css.
[12:20:15] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: how can you expand every part of a specific class using only css?
[12:20:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can use the state of a checkbox as a pseudo-variable to allow you to make changes after load.
[12:20:31] <chromas> Will the expand/collapse icons be little domed end caps with beveled +/- buttons?
[12:20:39] <chromas> you know, like /. had for awhile for modding or something
[12:20:45] <chromas> oh and the farhose
[12:20:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, beats the shit outa me. i ain't no artist.
[12:21:06] <chromas> just use masking tape
[12:21:26] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: oh but that's just modifying the class itself, isn't it?
[12:21:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> "i ain't no artist" = if i try to draw a straight line, it comes out curvy, and vice versa.
[12:22:30] <Runaway1956> http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[12:22:31] <snowfire> ^ 03SoylentNews.org - Team Summary - EXTREME Overclocking Folding @ Home Stats
[12:23:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, it's easiest to cheat and collapse the entire div of comments you want to go away with display:none. easily done with the general siblings selector ~
[12:24:01] <chromas> those square graph points make it look like the graph is editable
[12:24:12] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: yes but to do it to every comment, you would be editing the class itself, right?
[12:24:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> and knowing that the <li> tag holding the comment tree below this comment is the only <li> tag that will be a sibling.
[12:24:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're altering the class of the li, yeah. but with a very specific selector.
[12:25:06] <Gravis> chromas: for a moment i thought you wrote: <chromas> those square graph points make it look like the graph is edible
[12:25:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's up on dev right now if you wanna check it out
[12:26:05] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: yeah if you are editing the class of course you can expand/collapse everything.
[12:26:16] <chromas> Gravis: they make for a square meal
[12:26:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> just turn off javascript before you do cause that is going away and it buggers up placement.
[12:27:18] <Gravis> javascript needs to exist because css isn't expressive enough for animations
[12:27:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> not actually editing the class, editing the properties of a <li> tag that is a sibling of the checkbox
[12:27:38] <Gravis> or complex selections
[12:28:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, but there's getting to be quite a lot of stuff you can do with it that you didn't used to be able to.
[12:28:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> says the guy who learned html before it got a version number
[12:28:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> also the guy who never really updated his html skills from then until this past week.
[12:29:03] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: which is exactly why css should be extended to do such things and then everyone can turn off javascript
[12:29:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, some of them things anyway. no point doing away with js if css is going to end up just as bloated and slow.
[12:30:34] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: no, just need to be able to make actions happen
[12:31:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> can to some degree. i'd prefer to keep them affecting only the styling of the page as they are now though.
[12:31:20] <Gravis> maybe add a tag to html that is specifically for requesting more infomation upon being displayed
[12:31:30] <Gravis> that way you keep your "infinite scrolling" pages
[12:31:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[12:32:14] <Gravis> but generally, javascript needs to die
[12:32:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, i hate that. i'd prefer a five mile long page that delivers ~5MB of markup
[12:32:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause you can't ^F and find something on the page if it hasn't loaded yet.
[12:32:47] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: sure... but this isn't about you
[12:33:09] <crutchy> go with xml instead :D
[12:33:11] * crutchy hides
[12:33:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake crutchy
[12:33:18] * MrPlow smakes crutchy upside the head with white privilege
[12:34:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, and that's the damned truth. people who know how to use the tools they've been given are not anyone's use case nowadays.
[12:34:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> yet another reason i miss the 90s
[12:35:03] <crutchy> if anyone wants an improved version of SN, there's always the api
[12:35:08] <crutchy> or the #comments feed
[12:35:18] <crutchy> or the rss
[12:35:32] <crutchy> s/improved/alternate/
[12:36:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. we might eventually even start building the front end of the site using the api. or anyone could build their own front end for that matter. or just syndicate our already syndicated news.
[12:36:59] * TheMightyBuzzard starts work on a javascript/json/api version of the site
[12:37:13] <crutchy> its possible even without the api. not that its likely encouraged by staff. i build a scraper that outputs comments in an irc channel without the api
[12:37:27] <crutchy> ^gravis
[12:37:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> should switch to the api. be faster and much easier to maintain.
[12:37:58] <crutchy> probably should yeah
[12:37:59] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: javascript is a tool that people learned to use and abuse. it needs to go away, not because they don't know how it works but because they are absuing it's power.
[12:38:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[12:38:14] <crutchy> api might still be a bit clunky for the comments feed
[12:38:43] <crutchy> is there any way to specify what comments to get using the api?
[12:38:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> but they're building for people who have little idea how to even use a browser
[12:39:00] <Gravis> it doesn't matter
[12:39:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, you can get them one at a time or the latest that i know of. i could probably narrow that by discussion id pretty easily.
[12:39:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> it does. it makes it worse.
[12:39:49] <crutchy> javascript is just a tool
[12:39:52] <crutchy> one of many
[12:39:58] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: it can only get worse if it's /possible/ to get worse.
[12:40:11] <Runaway1956> Actually - the tools use javascript, don't they?
[12:40:29] <crutchy> tools using tools? oh how perverse!
[12:40:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, it's always possible to get worse. someone could take away my coffee while i'm browsing for instance.
[12:40:48] <Runaway1956> And, meanwhile, tools are used by javascript!
[12:40:52] <crutchy> yeah they could make yet another framework
[12:41:03] <Runaway1956> How deep does that hole go, Mad Hatter?
[12:41:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> i tell ya, what we really need is perlscript in the browser.
[12:41:47] * Runaway1956 thinks TMB should create a perlscript browser in his spare time
[12:41:48] <crutchy> lets combine jquery with xml
[12:42:00] <crutchy> to make... sexml
[12:42:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, you can currently pull either all the latest comments since the last comment you pulled, all the comments for a single discussion, or a single comment.
[12:42:39] <crutchy> by discussion do you mean sid?
[12:42:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[12:42:47] <crutchy> ah cool
[12:42:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> or journal/poll in theory.
[12:43:04] <crutchy> yah
[12:43:26] <crutchy> is there one to get the last say 20 discussions?
[12:43:38] <crutchy> (like the rss)
[12:43:58] <crutchy> ~api
[12:44:00] <exec> sylnt.us/api
[12:44:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[12:44:23] <crutchy> hmm. need to change that so i can actually open it in a browser :/
[12:44:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~api m=story op=latest limit=20
[12:44:30] <exec> soylentnews.org/api.pl?m=story&op=latest&limit=20
[12:44:30] <exec> 02"no such topic: "
[12:44:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> neat, bug
[12:45:24] * crutchy offers the bug a cookie
[12:45:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> wonder what happened, that used to work.
[12:46:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh well, on the stuff i gotta fix pile with it.
[12:46:46] <crutchy> time for bed. gotta get up in about 7 hrs
[12:46:49] <crutchy> cyas
[12:47:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, smoke break time
[12:53:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, it's the weekend. ima quit workin on the site for a bit and go vidya
[12:56:21] <Gravis> i rarely browse twitter but i ran accross a link to this amusing feed whatever the fuck they are called: https://twitter.com
[12:56:22] <snowfire> ^ 03Internet of Shit (@internetofshit) | Twitter
[12:58:48] <Runaway1956> some wimmin proclaiming that their pubic hair is probably toxic https://www.rt.com
[12:58:49] <snowfire> ^ 03Gas masks little else: Models in London strip in anti-fur protest (VIDEO) — RT UK ( https://www.rt.com )
[13:01:08] <Gravis> what i get from this is that when you run out of legitimacy, go for insanity.
[13:01:39] <Runaway1956> Legitimacy? PETA?
[13:03:22] <Gravis> which is why they have opted for insanity
[13:16:33] <Subsentient> I just completed an entire upgrade from CentOS 6 to 7, including /usr merge, without rebooting. I feel like a god.
[13:17:36] <Subsentient> $burrito TheMightyBuzzard or crutchy or chromas or someone
[13:17:36] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at TheMightyBuzzard or crutchy or chromas or someone
[13:17:47] <Subsentient> Pay attention to my undying glory!
[14:01:26] <takyon> hi
[14:01:54] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[14:02:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Virgin Galactic moves on from crash, debuts flashy new spaceship - http://sylnt.us - ooooo-shiny
[14:05:04] <Bytram> !uid
[14:05:04] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6130, owned by tractatus_techno_philosophicus
[14:05:20] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:05:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2266
[14:05:28] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[14:05:30] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 49°F, partly cloudy, wind W at 18 mph, humidity 52% - Sunday mostly cloudy (31°F:51°F), Monday sunny (24°F:40°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (32°F:36°F), Wednesday rain (41°F:42°F)
[14:05:33] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[14:05:35] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 47°F, partly cloudy, wind W at 2 mph, humidity 61% - Sunday partly cloudy (24°F:48°F), Monday sunny (13°F:36°F), Tuesday mostly sunny (26°F:31°F), Wednesday rain and snow (35°F:38°F)
[14:05:39] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[14:05:41] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 38°F, cloudy, wind SW at 5 mph, humidity 89% - Sunday rain and snow (4°F:41°F), Monday sunny (-4°F:20°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (8°F:23°F), Wednesday snow (26°F:36°F)
[14:15:10] <mrcoolbp> ~g'day soylent
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[15:09:22] <Runaway1956> Cute chick takes on some random dude for a room mate - Darwin Award time, and EF would have some comments for certain. https://www.gofundme.com
[15:09:24] <snowfire> ^ 03JusticeForDani by Kaitlin Cabot - GoFundMe ( https://www.gofundme.com )
[15:09:46] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $697
[15:10:08] <Bytram> !woop
[15:10:09] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[15:23:43] <Runaway1956> If you read through to the end, Trump says his company has some of the best asses in the world - http://www.cnn.com
[15:23:44] <snowfire> ^ 03Trump predicts he'll face Clinton, break turnout records - CNNPolitics.com
[15:24:07] * Runaway1956 should make a submission of that
[15:27:05] * Bytram appreciates the thought, but for the most part, we are trying to avoid strictly political stories on the site... there are plenty enough other places for that discussion and it is not terribly interesting for our international community (imagine constant analyses of candidates for an election in, say, India) -- but, if there is a technical angle, that tends to improve the odds the story will get run.
[15:28:37] <Bytram> for example, if someone fired a laser pointer at Trump's plane as it was landing, that would get much more traction than the latest blovation from candidate X
[15:28:52] <Bytram> do appreciate the thought!
[15:28:59] <Bytram> and, look at the time!
[15:29:04] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[15:29:10] <Bytram|away> I gtg; have a great day everyone!
[15:34:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mint Cinnamon ISOs Hacked - http://sylnt.us - ruh-roh
[15:35:10] <Runaway1956> That bites - I thought more highly of Mint than for them to permit some random asshole to hack the servers.
[15:36:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++ # last cup of the morning
[15:36:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2267
[15:37:42] <Runaway1956> WHAT?!?!?! There is no "last cup" - not until 11:59:59 or thereabouts.
[15:37:59] <Runaway1956> Then it becomes "first cup" of the afternoon.
[15:39:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'm at the point where i can finish this cup and ride the high until about 1 or 2
[16:11:30] <paulej72> coffee++
[16:11:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2268
[16:14:54] <takyon> tea++
[16:14:54] <Bender> karma - tea: 535
[16:15:43] <Runaway1956> http://www.reuters.com
[16:15:44] <snowfire> ^ 03Missing radioactive material found dumped in south Iraq| Reuters ( http://www.reuters.com )
[16:16:14] <Runaway1956> I submitted that one - interesting that whoever stole it apparently couldn't think of any nefarious uses for it.
[16:16:41] <Runaway1956> Suspects are probably not from the Nefar tribe . . . .
[16:18:42] <takyon> dirty bomb are hard
[16:19:59] <Runaway1956> I don't see why it would be - just break up the components, and stick them randomly in with your standard explosive vest - all of the affected area becomes "dirty"
[16:20:22] <Runaway1956> No nuclear or atomic explosion necessary to poison a village center
[16:22:04] <takyon> yeah beats me
[16:23:11] * Runaway1956 double checks plans for standard suicide vest both with and without radioactive materials
[16:24:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> vests are gay, make a coat.
[16:24:42] <Runaway1956> Oh, wait, does the NSA monitor us here? CRASH! Oh, never mind, NSA has already crashed in.
[16:24:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> or overalls. those are nice n manly.
[16:24:58] <Runaway1956> *cough*
[16:25:06] <Runaway1956> Define "manly".
[16:25:43] <Runaway1956> The best thing that can be said about overalls, is the fat guy who changed my balljoints yesterday wouldn't have been flashing his ass for the world to see.
[16:25:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> guys who do hard, dirty work every day wear em often.
[16:26:48] <Runaway1956> "hard, dirty work" - okay - but I wear Carhartt jeans, Wolverine boots, and a T-shirt unless it's cold - then I put on a denim shirt with pearl snaps.
[16:26:59] <Runaway1956> When it gets a little colder, I put on my down vest.
[16:27:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is a perfectly acceptable alternative
[16:27:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> except for the vest
[16:27:14] <Runaway1956> It keeps my arms unbound
[16:27:47] <Runaway1956> Simply cannot stand being confined in a coat or jacket, unless it's really cold and/or wet
[16:28:47] <Runaway1956> Additionally, a guy who plans on detonating his vest needs his arms free, as well.
[16:28:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> seriously, unless you are this guy: http://www.mattderody.com no vests.
[16:29:26] <Runaway1956> Oh - that's my wimpy kid brother, don't pay him any mind.
[16:31:16] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[16:31:17] <snowfire> ^✓ 03SN article: Extra Testosterone May Benefit Older Men 04(5 comments) ( https://soylentnews.org )
[16:31:38] <takyon> I'd like to prescribe this particular article to no particular user in particular
[16:32:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft
[16:32:21] <Runaway1956> An extra shot of testosterone now and then is good for the women too. They swell up a little, but they're perfectly healthy.
[16:35:04] <takyon> oh yeah
[16:35:09] <takyon> the bot gets comment counts way wrong
[16:35:14] <takyon> bot problem or API problem?
[16:40:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> bot cache issue
[16:42:04] <Runaway1956> https://www.rt.com
[16:42:06] <snowfire> ^ 03Kiev police fines ‘Osama bin Laden’ for stopping near US embassy - media — RT News ( https://www.rt.com )
[16:42:41] <Runaway1956> Kiev doesn't have the brightest burning bulbs.
[16:52:36] <takyon> osama escaped from the CIA lab
[16:52:54] <takyon> (((triangle emoji)))
[17:35:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA is Working on a Telescope With an Even Wider Eye Than Hubble - http://sylnt.us - arcsecond-arcfirst
[17:51:46] <takyon> runaway1956, please use <blockquote> when writing your submissions
[17:51:48] <takyon> araaaagh
[17:51:57] <takyon> later
[17:52:11] <Runaway1956> block quote? I'll look at it . . .
[17:55:07] <Runaway1956> Looks simple enough - I'll try to make your job a little easier.
[17:55:16] * Runaway1956 crossed fingers as he typed the above
[18:12:03] <Runaway1956> Not sure if I did it "right" - it looks alright from my end of things - https://soylentnews.org
[18:12:04] <snowfire> ^ 03SN Submission by Runaway1956: High(er) Tech terrorism?
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[18:36:03] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[18:36:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> good nap
[18:36:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Homeopathy Effective for Zero Out of 68 Illnesses. - http://sylnt.us - whatever-works-or-doesn't || NASA is Working on a Telescope With an Even Wider Eye than Hubble - http://sylnt.us - arcsecond-arcfirst
[18:36:45] * cmn32480 throws a mug full of jealousy at TheMightyBuzzard
[18:37:01] <Runaway1956> Nap, huh? I dreamed about wasps earlier - dreames can be strange . . . .
[18:37:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea what i dream about. i never remember.
[18:37:48] <cmn32480> if it is a good dream... probably perl
[18:37:56] <cmn32480> nightmares: Javascript!
[18:38:13] <Runaway1956> I always remember them for a few minutes - then I mostly forget them. This one doesn't want to be forgotten.
[18:38:45] <Runaway1956> Maybe it's a karma thing - I'm going to be reincarnated as an egg laying wasp in punishment for being such an asshole in this life
[18:39:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> or it's prophetic and you've got one sneaking up on you right now.
[18:41:33] <Runaway1956> Here's a hotty from Texas - 6'4" with 49" legs http://www.littlethings.com
[18:41:34] <snowfire> ^ 03This Model Seemed Normal, Until I Saw Below Her Waist. Incredible!! ( http://www.littlethings.com )
[18:42:41] <Runaway1956> And ---- she's shown in high heels!
[18:46:43] <takyon> thanks for using the blockquote runaway
[18:46:49] <takyon> bye
[18:51:05] <Runaway1956> np takyon - I just didn't know about it, or that it made things any better
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[19:06:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ISIS Shooting Video Exposed as Footage From 'Medal of Honor' - http://sylnt.us - wishful-thinking
[19:17:13] <cmn32480> back later
[19:17:18] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
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[19:47:36] <SirFinkus> crutchy! You're far to kind to homeopathy
[19:47:37] * SirFinkus calls you out
[19:57:17] <chromas> SirFinkus: you homeophobe!
[19:57:19] <chromas> http://blog.linuxmint.com
[19:57:20] <snowfire> ^ 03The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Beware of hacked ISOs if you downloaded Linux Mint on February 20th!
[19:59:44] <chromas> ooh, looks like there's already a couple submissions
[20:00:02] <SirFinkus> the iso story already ran
[20:00:13] <SirFinkus> https://soylentnews.org
[20:00:13] <chromas> oh
[20:00:14] <snowfire> ^ 03SN article: Mint Cinnamon ISOs Hacked 04(14 comments)
[20:00:50] <chromas> well shit it's right there in my scrollback
[20:00:57] * chromas puts a dunce hat on his dunce hat
[20:02:37] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[20:04:13] <Bytram|away> time for a nap... laters!
[20:19:19] <nick> soylentnews, powered by naps.
[20:47:03] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i'm not kind to homeopathy. i think its a bunch of hippie crap. i just thing misusing statistics to support an argument against it is even more stupid
[20:47:33] <crutchy> ergh. me fail english. that's umpossible
[20:48:05] <crutchy> s/thing/think/
[20:48:20] <crutchy> anyway, time for workipoos. haf fun
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[21:08:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Big IPO, Tiny Payout for Many Startup Workers - http://sylnt.us - sliver-of-pie
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[21:51:58] <SanityCheck> sadas'
[22:38:58] <paulej72> yeah bitches
[22:39:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Germany Investigating Targeted Russian Propaganda Attacks - http://sylnt.us - distraction
[22:53:25] <paulej72> shore is quiet in here
[23:05:45] <chromas> we're hunting wabbits
[23:27:58] <paulej72> 27 commits on 20 files
[23:33:16] <chromas> Did you get the new foldy comments working?
[23:33:28] * chromas stands by with finger on the karma key
[23:33:47] <paulej72> shhh it's super secret
[23:33:57] <paulej72> see dev
[23:34:10] <chromas> paulej72++ # super secrets
[23:34:10] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 203
[23:41:38] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[23:49:33] <SanityCheck> how to karam?
[23:49:38] <SanityCheck> Karma* so fail
[23:51:56] <Bytram> chromas++ for hunting wabbits... ROFL!
[23:51:56] <Bender> karma - chromas: 155