#Soylent | Logs for 2016-02-20

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[00:18:26] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v nick] by Imogen
[00:34:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FBI vs. Apple Encryption Fight Continues - http://sylnt.us - crypto-battle
[00:40:52] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[01:00:49] <crutchy> coffee++
[01:00:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2258
[01:11:25] <Bytram> !uid
[01:11:25] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6130, owned by tractatus_techno_philosophicus
[01:12:08] * Bytram cannot imagine having to remember AND type that every time I wanted to login
[01:12:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:12:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2259
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[01:38:14] <crutchy> get a tiny bit of fluff or something in the hole where a mouse laser is and it goes buggo
[01:41:21] <Bytram> better than the old mouse balls which, when the rollers got dirty, would occasionally make the mouse cursor slowly glide across the screen and lodge against a side and then into a corner
[01:41:40] <cmn32480> get out your denatured alcohol!
[01:42:15] <cmn32480> ahem... sorry I'm late
[01:42:21] <cmn32480> ~gday crutchy!
[01:42:23] * exec covertly cracks open a toilet bowl of milo for crutchy!
[01:43:04] <Deucalion> ~weather juggs
[01:43:06] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 49°F / 9°C, cloudy, wind SW at 14 mph, humidity 91% - Friday cloudy (46°F:49°F / 8°C:9°C), Saturday rain (53°F:56°F / 12°C:13°C), Sunday cloudy (48°F:57°F / 9°C:14°C), Monday scattered showers (38°F:49°F / 3°C:9°C)
[01:43:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, Deucalion
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[01:43:39] <Deucalion> evenin TheMightyBuzzard - things OK with you?
[01:43:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> peachy keen, jellybean
[01:44:29] <cmn32480> what flavor?
[01:45:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything but earwax
[01:45:04] <crutchy> ~g'day cmn32480, TheMightyBuzzard, Deucalion
[01:45:07] * exec insatiably poops a bucket of spew for cmn32480,
[01:45:10] <crutchy> :|
[01:45:19] <Deucalion> ~g'day crutchy
[01:45:21] * exec spontaneously pours a DD cup of coffee++ for crutchy
[01:45:22] <crutchy> ~g'day Bytram
[01:45:24] * exec insatiably offers a bathtub of $insert_beverage_here to Bytram
[01:45:31] <cmn32480> my kids got them in their stockings at christmas
[01:45:37] <Bytram> hiya... watha!
[01:45:40] <cmn32480> Santa played a VERY Cruel joke
[01:45:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> i needs moar caffeines. may not make it another hour till bedtime.
[01:46:00] <cmn32480> then go to bed early TMB
[01:46:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'd just wake up before my alarm went off if i did
[01:46:46] <cmn32480> funny... I dind't wanna wake up when my alarm went off.. never mind before it
[01:47:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. i'm old n set in my ways. i go to bed an hour early, i'll be up an hour before the coffee makes itself.
[01:48:06] <cmn32480> Best spam subject line ever: "5 New Toilet Paper Coupons Inside"
[01:48:31] <cmn32480> it is so different, it almost makes me wanna open it
[01:48:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, i could have used that. we just stocked up yesterday.
[01:48:45] <cmn32480> shit outta luck?
[01:48:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> got one of them enormous 40 roll packs. we can shit from now till rapture.
[01:49:19] <cmn32480> sonofabitch
[01:49:32] <cmn32480> my 7 year old just yelled from the throne room...
[01:49:48] <cmn32480> "DAAAAAAAAADDDDDDD!!!!!! I PLUGGED THE TOILET!!!!!!"
[01:49:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> woah, awesome
[01:50:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's talent, that is.
[01:50:16] <cmn32480> the best expletive I could come up with was
[01:50:18] <cmn32480> ~shit
[01:50:20] <exec> 05💩
[01:51:26] * cmn32480 gets on his HazMat suit
[01:54:11] * cmn32480 has a special HazMat suit for this occasion... it shows plenty of butt crack when I bend over.
[01:55:02] <cmn32480> Holy God in Heaven
[01:55:12] <cmn32480> the paint in that bathroom is peeling...
[01:55:34] <cmn32480> it's like mustard gas or something
[01:55:35] <Bytram> that does not sound appealing
[01:55:50] <Bytram> forgot to refill the charcoal filters, eh?
[01:55:53] <cmn32480> oh no... it's appealing right off the walls
[01:56:02] <Bytram> lol
[01:56:06] <cmn32480> his ass don't ahve a charcoal filter
[01:56:30] * cmn32480 might need to borrow a space suit... anybody got one?
[01:56:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should get an aftermarket one for it then
[01:57:04] <cmn32480> used?
[01:57:13] <cmn32480> aren't they like historical objects and such?
[01:57:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.myshreddies.com
[01:57:42] <snowfire> ^ 03Shreddies
[01:58:40] <cmn32480> this what you wore the other night? after the beans
[01:59:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, my sense of smell is weak enough from being male and smoking that i can just tuck the covers in good and let em ferment south of my nose.
[02:00:45] <cmn32480> oh right... my wife threatened to castrate me if I ever dutch oven'd her
[02:00:55] <cmn32480> enjoying this over breakfast crutchy?
[02:01:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why you wait until she's asleep to do it.
[02:01:54] <Bytram> well, THAT did not help.
[02:02:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> then if she wakes up you be all like "dude, that was your own personal stink and you were the one that covered your head"
[02:02:21] <crutchy> i'm having doritos for breakfast
[02:02:21] * Bytram read the whole wiki entry on 7 of 9: https://en.wikipedia.org and saw absolutely NO mention of where the NAME came from or what it was supposed to mean
[02:02:22] <snowfire> ^ 03Wiki: Seven of Nine
[02:02:24] <crutchy> and coffee
[02:03:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, seven of nine, tertiary adjunct to unimatrix 001. hierarchical designation.
[02:03:23] * Bytram takes a look at: http://memory-alpha.wikia.com
[02:03:23] <snowfire> ^ 03Seven of Nine - Memory Alpha - Wikia
[02:03:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> scuse me, unimatrix 1
[02:03:35] <cmn32480> She was Borg
[02:03:57] <Bytram> hmm, so there are 9 in the hierarchy and she was 7th in it?
[02:04:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> in her bitsy pod of borg, yep
[02:05:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really rank, just organizational groupings.
[02:05:11] <Bytram> where do you get the 'hierarchical designation' from?
[02:07:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> well the only real hierarchy is the queen hangs with unimatrix 1. the rest are all essentially the same rank. they're just grouped for the same reason you use databases instead of a big ole pile of paper i spect.
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[02:24:52] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[02:25:48] * SoyClone drinks
[02:26:01] * Bytram is reading http://memory-alpha.wikia.com
[02:26:02] <snowfire> ^ 03The Omega Directive (episode) - Memory Alpha - Wikia
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[02:30:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, whadda yall think about tossing a few karma points to folks what actually post journals?
[02:31:00] <SoyClone> nah
[02:31:08] <SoyClone> thety'll just spam that shit''
[02:31:17] <SoyClone> and everyone at 50 karma anyway
[02:31:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair points
[02:31:26] <SoyClone> we need karma SPENDING
[02:31:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya think?
[02:32:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> i spend mine saying unpopular things but i guess if you share the popular opinion you got no way to spend it.
[02:32:23] <SoyClone> spend 10 karma to subtract 5 karma from someone
[02:33:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> kinda dick-ish but i'm not adamantly opposed to it
[02:33:43] <SoyClone> 25 karma for 1 day of soylent subscription
[02:34:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, maybe a week even.
[02:35:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean really if you're getting 25 karma back by the end of the week, you're contributing enough to warrant *something*
[02:36:19] <SoyClone> the problem is mining that 15 karma for the karma bonus
[02:38:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> as long as you're getting it legit by submitting stories or saying interesting things to get it instead of making sock puppet accounts to mod yourself.
[02:39:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean five subs gets you 15 karma
[02:39:27] <SoyClone> i have infinite karma
[02:39:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> post AC?
[02:39:57] <SoyClone> submit, submit, submit
[02:40:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[02:40:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> i get most of mine from posting, believe it or not.
[02:42:42] <Deucalion> surely not :P
[02:43:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know, right? you'd think since i keep making the top five trolls list i'd be having problems.
[02:44:03] <SoyClone> most of your troll posts get a couple upmods, and then you get informative/insightful posts all the time
[02:45:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, even when i say shit in an inflammatory way, it really is what i genuinely believe.
[02:45:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> so more flamebait than troll.
[02:47:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, make the clock go faster. my bed's been calling to me for a couple hours now.
[02:48:04] <Deucalion> So go sleep
[02:48:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> would wake up before the coffee makes itself
[02:48:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd have to push a button
[02:48:31] <Deucalion> change the timer on the coffee maker?
[02:49:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, think i'll just distract myself with boob pictures for a bit.
[02:49:34] * Deucalion looks away
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[02:50:10] * Deucalion wanders off to play infantile vidya games for a while
[02:50:29] <SoyClone> how infantile
[02:50:50] <SoyClone> +?
[02:51:01] <Runaway1956> Yay, I finally gots internets . . .
[02:53:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> how many?
[02:53:14] <Runaway1956> still counting Buzz
[02:54:05] <Runaway1956> I just hope I haven't lost any that I had before the ISP crapped out this morning
[02:54:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, gonna reboot my modem. sposed to have 50Mb by now.
[02:54:53] <Runaway1956> fek, I wish I had two Mb
[02:56:15] <cmn32480> what's your upstream buzzard?
[02:57:35] <cmn32480> I remember looking at houses and running the qualifier for Fios or COmacast on my phone
[02:57:59] <cmn32480> disqualified a bunch of places before we even got there
[03:00:18] <Runaway1956> Apple continues to move up on my own personal scale of "respectable" - I could become an Apple Phanboi.
[03:03:52] * cmn32480 thinks about a .kick Runaway1956
[03:04:32] <cmn32480> but I do agree Runaway1956, they are doing the right thing.
[03:04:53] <Runaway1956> Heh - only Apple has ever thumbed their nose at gubbermint, and only Google seems to be openly supporting them.
[03:05:21] <Runaway1956> Everyone else seems to be saying, "wish we had the balls to do that"
[03:05:41] <cmn32480> what their reasons are, I don't know, but I did hear somethign abot them saying that the data was unrecoverable because the AppleID(?) had been changed liek 24 hours before the FBI got the device
[03:06:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ethical Concerns Over Authorship for Players of RNA Folding Game in a Scientific Journal - http://sylnt.us - acknowledgment
[03:06:17] <Runaway1956> Actually, the FBI told San Bernardino to "reset the password" which changes the ID
[03:06:42] <cmn32480> is that the backstory? I caught like 3 sdeconds on the news
[03:07:36] <Runaway1956> Well, that is the claim of one news article - http://www.reuters.com
[03:07:37] <snowfire> ^ 03U.S., Apple ratchet up rhetoric in fight over encryption| Reuters ( http://www.reuters.com )
[03:09:05] <Runaway1956> FBI under fire from the child porn ring busted on TOR - https://www.rt.com
[03:09:07] <snowfire> ^ 03FBI under court order to release code used to hack 1,000+ computers in child porn sting — RT USA ( https://www.rt.com )
[03:13:41] <Runaway1956> That Brave browser looks interesting - maybe tomorrow, I'll download and compile it - if I still have a connection
[03:13:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, 5Mb
[03:14:00] <Runaway1956> I'm afraid the ISP may catch fire and burn down any time now
[03:14:13] <cmn32480> that isn't too bad.
[03:14:17] <cmn32480> I'm on a 50/50
[03:14:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> smooth
[03:15:00] <cmn32480> FIOS
[03:15:05] * Runaway1956 makes plans to steal cmn32480 internet connection
[03:15:22] * Runaway1956 doesn't know if it will fit in a pickup truck though
[03:15:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> not currently getting what i paid for though
[03:15:37] <cmn32480> nah.. all you gotta do is tie the fiber to the ball hitch
[03:15:53] <cmn32480> it'll follow you home!
[03:16:01] <Runaway1956> Cool! I'm on my way! The hell with working tonight!
[03:16:22] <Bytram> another way to get fiber is to eat more wheat bran
[03:16:33] <cmn32480> or a wicker swing set
[03:16:36] <Runaway1956> Oatmeal won't work?
[03:17:01] <SanityCheck> I moved and got Comcast again as my ISP, but this time 178 Mbits/s
[03:17:25] <cmn32480> TCP/IP via carrier pigeion
[03:17:34] <SanityCheck> of course it's like a 3rd of what they advertised
[03:17:46] <Runaway1956> This is my internet - https://www.facebook.com
[03:17:47] <snowfire> ^ 03Log into Facebook | Facebook ( https://www.facebook.com )
[03:18:36] <cmn32480> according to Verizon, my internet usage is "Power" at 175+ GB/ month
[03:18:44] <cmn32480> and I have 10+ connected devices
[03:18:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> good ole TCP/CP
[03:18:59] <SanityCheck> if u love to download 4K DVD rips :/
[03:19:15] <cmn32480> Netflix
[03:19:44] <cmn32480> wait... their chart is funky
[03:19:47] <SanityCheck> yeah netflix can hog some data, I wonder how much I use
[03:19:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, see there is where i win. my isp doesn't bitch because i use what i pay for. i can run my connection maxed out 24/7 and they're fine with it.
[03:20:32] <cmn32480> they aren't bitching... I'm looking at the "Review my stuff" page
[03:20:43] <SanityCheck> yeah Verizon is not bitching yet
[03:21:11] <cmn32480> wish it gave me actual statistic
[03:21:13] <cmn32480> s
[03:21:15] <cmn32480> for usage
[03:21:44] <Runaway1956> Gonna be a long day before I get back home - put new tires on the car this morning, told them to align it, they looked at it, said they can't align it until I get lower ball joints installed
[03:21:55] <cmn32480> DOH
[03:21:57] <Runaway1956> I'm looking at a couple hours at the garage in the morning
[03:22:14] <cmn32480> Good luck Runaway
[03:22:53] <Runaway1956> Why do ball joints only last 250,000 miles? Can't we make quality vehicles? ;^)
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[03:27:42] <Runaway1956> Still haven't finished scanning news feeds - but it's time to get ready for work - later everyone.
[03:39:33] <cmn32480> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[03:39:35] * exec prematurely poops a wine flute of skittles for TheMightyBuzzard
[03:44:26] <paulej72> ~moo
[03:44:27] <exec> (__)
[03:44:27] <exec> (oo)
[03:44:27] <exec> /------\/
[03:44:27] <exec> / | ||
[03:44:27] <exec> * /\---/\
[03:44:28] <exec> ~~ ~~
[03:44:29] <exec> ..."Have you mooed today?"...
[03:45:44] <paulej72> Pooped skittles. Wonder if they are clean
[03:54:09] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[03:54:35] <exec> ________________________________
[03:54:35] <exec> < My skittles are clean, biatch! >
[03:54:36] <exec> --------------------------------
[03:54:36] <exec> \ ^__^
[03:54:36] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[03:54:37] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[03:54:38] <exec> ||----w |
[03:54:38] <exec> || ||
[04:02:24] <Bytram|away> ~cowsay g'night everyone! It's time for bed.
[04:02:25] <exec> ______________________________________
[04:02:25] <exec> < g'night everyone! It's time for bed. >
[04:02:26] <exec> --------------------------------------
[04:02:26] <exec> \ ^__^
[04:02:27] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[04:02:27] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[04:02:28] <exec> ||----w |
[04:02:29] <exec> || ||
[04:05:21] <exec> ____________
[04:05:21] <exec> < moooooooo! >
[04:05:21] <exec> ------------
[04:05:22] <exec> \ ^__^
[04:05:22] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[04:05:23] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[04:05:24] <exec> ||----w |
[04:05:24] <exec> || ||
[04:06:43] <paulej72> Mmmmmm
[04:07:26] <exec> ______________________________
[04:07:27] <exec> < Stop staring at me paulej72! >
[04:07:27] <exec> ------------------------------
[04:07:27] <exec> \ ^__^
[04:07:27] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[04:07:28] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[04:07:29] <exec> ||----w |
[04:07:30] <exec> || ||
[04:08:07] <paulej72> Suck it exec. Go lay with ciri
[04:08:47] <exec> you are just jealous!
[04:09:17] <paulej72> Maybe,
[04:09:57] <cmn32480> alright... bedtime for me.
[04:10:06] <cmn32480> ~gnight everybody!
[04:10:09] * exec covertly passes a blagoblag of vibrating rooster sammich to everybody!
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[05:07:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tyson Foods Averaged an Amputation a Month for Most of 2015 - http://sylnt.us - cut-it-out
[05:25:03] <chromas> the other white meat
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[06:38:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Millions of Students to have their Personal Information Given to a Nonprofit Community Organization - http://sylnt.us - better-keep-it-safe
[07:22:43] <crutchy> lol http://www.cbsnews.com
[07:22:44] <snowfire> ^ 03Video appears to show U.S.-backed rebel groups in Syria fighting each other - CBS News
[07:23:01] <crutchy> from the no-shit dept.
[07:23:37] <crutchy> in other news, mainstream media is just waking up to how retarted supporting rebels in syria is
[07:23:50] <crutchy> s/retarted/retarded/
[07:23:50] <sedctl> <crutchy> in other news, mainstream media is just waking up to how retarded supporting rebels in syria is
[08:40:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EPA Stealthily Moves to Outlaw Motor Vehicle Racing Modifications - http://sylnt.us - race-electric-cars,-instead
[09:22:03] <chromas> They'll just have to switch from motors to crank starters
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[09:44:55] <crutchy> wonder if that means the 'insane mode' button on the model S will become illegal
[09:45:15] <crutchy> unless modifications only means aftermarket
[10:42:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - LibrePlanet 2016: Fork the System - http://sylnt.us - Well-I-Love-that-Dirty-Water
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[11:29:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:29:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2260
[11:30:23] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:30:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2261
[11:30:58] * crutchy is working on a little frame calculator tool in delphi :)
[11:31:32] <crutchy> mixing graphics programming with engineering
[11:31:44] <crutchy> only 2d though
[11:31:47] <crutchy> fuck 3d
[11:33:08] * TheMightyBuzzard is working on sekrit comments stuff
[11:33:24] <crutchy> oooh noice
[11:35:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> mind you i dunno that you'll see any benefit being ac so often
[11:36:05] <crutchy> oh well. its for the greater good :p
[11:37:00] * crutchy is trying to make a function that returns the nearest line given a real coordinate
[11:37:12] <crutchy> 'line' in this case being a beam
[11:37:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. pj already made both comments and moderating take you back to the comment you did whichever from. them ain't sekrit though.
[11:38:25] <crutchy> is there a todo thing where if you click reply and the story still shows?
[11:38:42] <crutchy> oh my. me fail engrish
[11:38:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> story does still show don't it?
[11:39:02] <crutchy> ~sn
[11:39:04] <exec> https://soylentnews.org
[11:39:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> thought i did that ages ago
[11:39:40] <crutchy> hmm
[11:40:03] <crutchy> maybe if it happens again i'll try to think about it a bit better
[11:40:15] * TheMightyBuzzard nods
[11:40:21] <crutchy> maybe it was just my imagernation
[11:40:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe i'm just so good that i fixed it before it even bugged you
[11:41:15] <crutchy> fuck this little geometry problem is gunna need some pen n paper
[11:41:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't axe me, i don't calculus.
[11:42:43] <crutchy> nah not calculus. just gotta work out a way to tell if the mouse cursor is within a certain distance from the line between 2 coordinates
[11:45:14] <crutchy> probably easiest way is to just loop between pixel coords of line and check if within radius
[11:45:25] <crutchy> yeah that'll work
[11:56:25] <takyon> jhblhl
[12:03:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> same to you man
[12:07:47] * takyon listening to On The Media on NPR
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[12:34:39] <crutchy> yay. function works
[12:34:52] <crutchy> time for bed
[12:39:47] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, the green shit was a pretty cool way to debug. the point in the top right of the green shit is the mouse. http://picpaste.com
[12:40:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nifty
[12:40:22] <crutchy> the green shit follws the mouse around which is kinda funky to watch
[12:40:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> happy dreamland visit
[12:40:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hey,
[12:40:53] <crutchy> cya mate
[12:40:59] <crutchy> oh?
[12:41:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> bytram is gonna try and recruit ya to help him break things on the site.
[12:41:43] <crutchy> hah. good luck to him :p
[12:41:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> figured you'd have more fun breaking stuff than coding stuff at least.
[12:41:56] <crutchy> probably
[12:42:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> since you generally try anyway =P
[12:43:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Future Cars - Transportation Appliance vs. Dreams of the Open Road - http://sylnt.us - life-is-a-journey-NOT-a-destination
[13:27:54] <cmn32480> coffee++
[13:27:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2262
[13:33:41] <cmn32480> good morning buzzard
[13:47:20] <Subsentient> Man I'm loving Perl
[13:47:30] <Subsentient> it really rapes Python's crusty asshole
[13:48:20] <Subsentient> It's like someone took C, made it interpreted, and added every lexical construct anyone ever thought was a good idea ever.
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[15:09:46] <exec> 05*** SN funding is currently $697
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[18:09:38] <cmn32480> excellent... all checked in for my flights tomorrow...
[18:09:47] <cmn32480> Boarding position 6
[18:10:03] * cmn32480 has a good chance of getting the emergency exit row window seat
[18:17:04] <Runaway1956> Emergency exit? I put new batteries in the exit signs last night, so you won't get lost.
[18:17:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - David Cameron Negotiates Additional "Special Status" for UK in EU Deal - http://sylnt.us - forming-an-exit-strategy
[18:18:10] <cmn32480> I only fly Southwest
[18:18:40] <cmn32480> the only row on the airplane where you can comfrtably use a laptop is the emergency exit row with all the seats
[18:19:06] <Runaway1956> It that be so, you'll never get back home. You have to change direction sometime to get back home again.
[18:19:09] <cmn32480> at least on a 700/800/900 series 737
[18:19:34] <cmn32480> on the 200/300 series there are fewer seats, so any seat in the emergency exit row works well
[18:20:01] <cmn32480> what are you... a flat-earther?
[18:20:15] <cmn32480> keep going southwest and eventually I get back where I started
[18:20:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, nope, you run out of south and west when you cross the south pole.
[18:21:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> then you're going northeast
[18:21:05] <Runaway1956> No way - think about it. If you only go southwest, and never north or east, you can never come home again - you might reach escape velocity, then you'll fly off into outer space
[18:21:30] <cmn32480> that'd be ok.
[18:21:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> or maybe northwest
[18:21:49] <cmn32480> Kanye and Kim's kid has nothign to do wiht this
[18:22:10] <Runaway1956> North by north east is fine too.
[18:23:51] <Runaway1956> Beans - wth extra protein. http://edition.cnn.com
[18:23:51] <snowfire> ^ 03Snake head found in can of green beans - CNN Video
[18:24:37] <cmn32480> yick
[18:24:45] <cmn32480> I'd have screamed like a little girl
[18:25:14] <Runaway1956> I did that once, when I woke up to find a giant rat staring me in the face.
[18:25:38] <Runaway1956> Of course, when I calmed down a little bit, I realized that monster rat was just a 2 ounce field mouse.
[18:26:03] <cmn32480> but I bet it LOOKED 3 ft long and weighing in at hundreds of pounds
[18:26:11] <cmn32480> at least for an instant
[18:26:36] <Runaway1956> For several instants, actually. Little bastard was cold, and wanted in the sleeping bag with me.
[18:29:59] <cmn32480> better that you didn't let him in... he'd have put his codl feet on you all night... like my wife does to me
[18:32:04] <Runaway1956> TAMU aggies - errrrr - I mean IAMU aggies - in trouble over eating beef. I had no idea they had aggies in India! http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com
[18:32:04] <snowfire> ^ 03Uproar over beef biryani being served at AMU - Times of India
[18:42:36] <nick> i'd go for some beef biryani
[18:44:01] <Runaway1956> I forwarded the article to my wife, with instructions to ask our Aggie son when Texas built a college in India. I like to gig him on being an Aggie.
[18:44:40] <lopple> scrump
[18:45:58] <Runaway1956> Trump says to boycott Apple - but personally, I am tempted to buy an Apple product for the first time in my life.
[18:46:34] <Runaway1956> Apparently, that story was found in the Washington Compost . . .
[18:47:22] <lopple> Apple's actions may be good this time, but their general policy is to abuse their users
[18:47:54] <nick> Pawley's Island, South Carolina (CNN)Donald Trump on Friday called for a boycott against Apple until the technology giant helps the FBI break into the iPhone of one of the San Bernardino shooters.
[18:48:03] <nick> is stupid.
[18:48:25] <Runaway1956> Yes - no - generally speaking, their conduct doesnt' suit me - but my biggest complaint about Apple, is that everything is over priced.
[18:51:27] <nick> lots of complaints to be had about apple, but i'll give it to them, they've done extremely well for a marketing company being seen as technological innovators, considering the lack of creativity and innovation
[18:51:31] <nick> is good branding
[18:54:27] <nick> apple is the only technology company that really presents a consistent lifestyle image to go with it, microsoft especially is too busy trying to be everything for everyone. You have to be right for apple, apple has no time to convince you if their greatness.
[18:54:36] <nick> of
[18:55:24] <Runaway1956> That's where Apple and I are a little bit alike - I know I'm good, and don't need to impress the office people.
[18:56:02] <nick> in apple's case, with the iphone, that did impress the office people.
[18:57:00] <Runaway1956> Alright, so I'm a little jealous . . .
[18:58:39] <nick> are you not more substance than style though? ;)
[18:59:48] <nick> apple has not helped in the trend of planned obsolescence and non-user serviceable batteries and other parts, disposable but somehow more expensive electronics.
[19:04:26] <Runaway1956> I may be posting from prison soon, if the wife orders another pizza with jalapeno pepper.
[19:05:17] <nick> prefer prison food?
[19:05:19] <Runaway1956> Isn't pizza supposed to be Italian food? Why do I want a Mexican style pizza? Grrr!
[19:05:42] <Runaway1956> Texas prisons probably serve jalapeno pizza too
[19:06:02] <nick> i was told the chinese invented pizza and i'm sticking to that
[19:06:37] <Runaway1956> They invented gunpowder, isn't that enough credit for one race?
[19:06:48] <nick> well, more specifically my chinese tourguide in beijing said that the italians tried to make dumplings, got it wrong and that's how they ended up with pizza
[19:07:09] <Runaway1956> LOL - sounds about right.
[19:07:16] <nick> i think then we went to pizza hut
[19:08:52] <nick> i do like a hoisin duck with spring onions pizza...
[19:09:31] <Runaway1956> I wouldn't know hoisin duck from peking duck from peeking duck
[19:10:27] <nick> mmmmmm
[19:10:44] <Runaway1956> You peeked, didn't you?
[19:10:54] <nick> i just enjoy duck
[19:11:08] <nick> especially what the chinese do to it
[19:11:38] <nick> i nearly bought a whole roast duck today
[19:11:49] <Runaway1956> I never learned to make duck appealing, but I do like to eat it when it'd done right. I know a Bavarian cook who does it right.
[19:11:55] <nick> but at $30, couldn't do it.
[19:12:15] <nick> yeah, cooking it is an art of sorts
[19:12:45] <nick> usually get the professionals to do it for me, instead of ruining it myself
[19:19:28] <SirFinkus> bullshit, cooking is chemistry
[19:19:47] <cmn32480> little bit art. littel bit science... whole lotta black magic
[19:19:50] <Runaway1956> yes, bullshit is chemistry
[19:20:04] <SirFinkus> mix ingredients in proper proportions, apply heat for proper duration
[19:21:05] <cmn32480> yet, you an do that, and can often get different results
[19:21:21] <SirFinkus> not if you do it correctly
[19:21:37] <nick> one bit of meat is not the same as the next bit of meat
[19:21:51] <SirFinkus> I can cook a steak medium rare every time
[19:22:18] <SirFinkus> the times are usually pretty consistent, as long as the meat is the same cut
[19:22:23] <Runaway1956> Don't forget love. In the words of Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: Love. You can learn all the math in the 'Verse, but you take a boat in the air that you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.
[19:22:30] <SirFinkus> and if they're not, use a thermometer
[19:22:59] <SirFinkus> I got fired at my last job for putting "love" in the steaks
[19:23:00] <cmn32480> this pushing an article out every couple hours is a bitch
[19:23:01] <SirFinkus> so be careful
[19:23:05] <Runaway1956> That's what the women say, SirFinkus - "one bit of meat is not the same as the next bit of meat"
[19:23:23] <cmn32480> is "love" like your personal secret sauce?
[19:23:38] <SirFinkus> like?
[19:23:52] <Runaway1956> Not a secret, actually - Grandma taught it to all her grandchildren
[19:24:10] <cmn32480> "Eat at Joes! with SirFinkus' special white cream sauce for your steak!"
[19:24:20] * SirFinkus has raised the level of discourse again
[19:24:30] <Runaway1956> Friday night tube steak special?
[19:24:49] <nick> cmn32480: you can slow your roll and i'll drop a few in the queue in a lil bit
[19:24:56] <nick> but there's not much in the subs queue
[19:25:10] <cmn32480> yeah... I was gonna fire up Arthur
[19:25:33] <nick> do that and give me a few minutes and i'll do something useful
[19:25:42] * Runaway1956 wonders if Imam Mohammed has any more exposes to post
[19:25:43] <cmn32480> the 4 AC subs and the one from takyon are actually pretty good
[19:26:10] <nick> i didn't look at any yet, just saw the numbers
[19:26:11] <cmn32480> the AC on;es are a sentene and a link, but better than a queue full of nuthin'
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[19:26:25] * cmn32480 goes to fire up Arthur
[19:27:12] * Runaway1956 sniffs
[19:27:22] <Runaway1956> Did he really light Arthur on fire?
[19:27:31] <cmn32480> he's got a pull start....
[19:27:39] <cmn32480> needs a littel TLC
[19:27:56] * cmn32480 thinks about borrowing SirFinkus' secret sauce
[19:29:28] <Runaway1956> You gotta pull his finger . . .
[19:29:33] * nick is trying to find an article about the 'brexit' vote
[19:30:09] <nick> the general point missing from most coverage is that if the uk votes out, then it goes to another round of voting within the eu to if they accept it or not
[19:30:28] <cmn32480> really?
[19:30:33] <cmn32480> they have to let the UK leave?
[19:30:49] <cmn32480> I didn't realize that was part of it
[19:30:50] <nick> its been mentioned in passing once i heard in the news, but i have it on pretty good authority
[19:30:56] <Runaway1956> Well, yeah - remember our civil war? Federal governments don't like the idea of secession.
[19:31:04] <cmn32480> truth
[19:31:24] <nick> getting the proposal is one part of it, the country voting is another part, i assume then the eu parliament is the one who has to vote if they all agree to the proposal
[19:31:40] <nick> but they cant do that vote until the british public have done theirs
[19:32:43] <cmn32480> makes sense
[19:33:55] <cmn32480> Arthur is fired up and rolling.... we ought to have somethign reasonable in 15 min or so
[19:36:27] <Gravis> paulej72: wtf? why were my mods reversed? "Your multiple down mods of Arik on 2-20 have been found to be contrary to our posted moderation guidelines"
[19:37:00] <Gravis> paulej72: arik was trolling so i modded down his troll posts.
[19:37:14] <paulej72> You mod bombed him. You basically went down the list of his comments and downmodded each one.
[19:37:31] <paulej72> I and other admins did not think he was trolling.
[19:38:25] <Gravis> paulej72: actually, i did not mod down all of his posts.
[19:38:33] <Gravis> paulej72: and i still think he was trolling
[19:39:13] <Runaway1956> One man's troll is another man's ogre.
[19:39:23] <Runaway1956> Or, something like that.
[19:39:54] <Gravis> paulej72: i'm not the only person that saw his posts as trolling
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[19:41:47] <paulej72> Gravis, I am aware of that, but we frow upon people spending all of their mod points on one person. I would suggest taling to mrcoolbp and Deucalion to see what their thouths are on this. They may agree with you and we can reverse the ban
[19:42:47] <paulej72> thoes two were not in on the orgial decision. Also you could appeal to Bytram as well.
[19:44:05] <Gravis> come on, "Yeah stop there. I don't have a font. You are talking absolute nonsense. Learn about HTML then come back and try that again."
[19:44:33] <SoyCow8125> I've submitted a handful of stories but the pending submissions list is empty.
[19:44:46] <Gravis> "I cannot imagine how anyone that saw themselves as a human being would.
[19:44:46] <Gravis> THIS is what I am challenging you to explain."
[19:44:57] <SoyCow8125> Any editors on call?
[19:45:12] <cmn32480> Soycow8125 - come over to #editorial, pleae
[19:45:24] <SoyCow8125> I'll try to find more stories but I'm on a mobile.
[19:45:38] <cmn32480> you the AC that has been tossing stuff in?
[19:45:49] <Gravis> paulej72: if it's even questionable, why mod ban?
[19:46:24] <Gravis> paulej72: i ran out of points early on that day so i waited for points to mod that story. that makes it mod bombing?
[19:47:00] <cmn32480> SoyCow8125 - if you are, I can only say Thank you. the sub queue was looking pretty empty and barren. your help is greatly appreciated! and have no fear, we are workign on pushing them out. :-)
[19:47:31] <paulej72> Gravis, it was not questionable to the three staff members that looked at it this morning, but I am willing to listen to other staff that may side with you.
[19:47:41] <Gravis> "Well if that's posting like an arrogant prick then so be it. I'm an arrogant prick and you're a moron."
[19:47:59] <paulej72> Gravis: yes wht you did is a classic case of mod bombing
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[19:48:24] <cmn32480> SoyCow8125 - editors are thin on the ground this weekend. Your subs are a huge help. Keep 'em coming, if you can.
[19:48:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fungal Toxins Poisoning African Children - http://sylnt.us - everybody-gets-along-with-mushrooms,-they-are-fungi
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[19:50:41] <Gravis> paulej72: i modded him down because they are trolls
[19:50:50] <Gravis> paulej72: how is that wrong?!
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[19:51:21] <Gravis> "i disagree with you modding" is not a reason to ban me and reverse the modding
[19:51:25] <Gravis> your*
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[19:52:02] <paulej72> because at least 3 staff mebers did not think what Arik was doing was trollish
[19:52:48] <paulej72> and it was not that you downmodded him, it was that you spent all of you mod point downmodding him in one story
[19:53:44] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: welp... good news, SN is now a safe space for jerks who can!
[19:53:55] <Gravis> can't take being downmodded
[19:54:21] * SirFinkus seems to recall Gravis bitching in irc when he's downmodded
[19:56:16] <cmn32480> Gravis - we have no problem with downmods, where the problem lies is that it was targeted downmodding, for one specific commenter in one specific article.
[19:57:53] <Gravis> cmn32480: he had multiple troll posts. how is that really my fault?
[19:58:39] <cmn32480> Gravis - I read them all, the entire discussion, and I also did not find them to be particularly trolly
[19:59:11] <cmn32480> disagreeable - yes
[19:59:20] <cmn32480> not so nice to others - probably
[19:59:24] <cmn32480> but not a troll
[19:59:40] <Gravis> fine flaimbait then
[19:59:48] <Gravis> flamebait*
[20:01:05] <cmn32480> Gravis - I think this is one time when the adage about "you can't convince someone who is coming from a position of blind faith anything" applies
[20:01:24] <Gravis> cmn32480: i'm not convinced it's not a troll, convince me. <-- this is the type of statements he made
[20:01:46] <Gravis> there is no resolution to that!
[20:01:51] <Gravis> he's just wasting other people's time
[20:03:13] <Gravis> how is that not a trolling?!
[20:05:08] <cmn32480> Gravis - you and I both know that nothing I or anyone else says will convince you that you are even possibly incorrect.
[20:05:45] <Gravis> cmn32480: exactly! and that is why posing the question is a troll!
[20:06:30] <Gravis> that's exactly what Arik did
[20:06:44] <cmn32480> I'm going to go back to editing a few stories now. as paulej72 said, the appeals process goes through mrcoolbp and Deucalion
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[20:14:43] <nick> <3 Gravis
[20:14:53] <cmn32480> pretty much
[20:15:11] <cmn32480> watch spacing nick... the sub queue has a whole lotta tumbleweeds
[20:15:39] <nick> will do
[20:15:45] <nick> change them if you want
[20:15:49] <cmn32480> should we merge the Apple v FBI ... a simple proposal inot the other that was jsut put up?
[20:16:03] <cmn32480> nah... they are at like 1:40
[20:16:10] <cmn32480> I've been going closer to 2 hours
[20:16:25] <cmn32480> nothing to squeal over...
[20:16:31] <nick> i was considering combining all those stories, as they're all closely related
[20:16:40] * cmn32480 is wondering if there is enough to get us to the morning
[20:16:58] <nick> fbi, hugh pickens, john mcafee
[20:17:11] <cmn32480> 19 stories to merge!
[20:17:45] <cmn32480> i put a few out the other day that were 18 minutes apart...
[20:18:17] <nick> 18?
[20:18:23] <cmn32480> yeah
[20:18:30] <cmn32480> it was an "oops"
[20:18:48] <nick> gotta keep that content rolling
[20:19:00] <cmn32480> forgot to take off my shoes and count on my toes'
[20:19:10] <nick> one day we can be like this: http://www.einnews.com
[20:19:10] <snowfire> ^✓ 03Live Feed Wire - EIN News
[20:19:12] <nick> :p
[20:19:53] <cmn32480> yeah....
[20:20:05] <cmn32480> looks like a helluvan RSS feed
[20:20:37] <cmn32480> and a lotta dupes
[20:20:41] <nick> we'd do it better obviously, all with a unique summary and amusing dept title
[20:20:57] <nick> it is that, i find it interesting though
[20:21:17] <nick> better during the week, when people are writing
[20:21:31] <cmn32480> sson as we expand our editorial staff past 6 we ought to be able to handle it
[20:23:01] <nick> should make a movie about the cool lifestyle of a volunteer editor, a nice bit of propaganda to glamorise and romanticise it ;)
[20:23:34] <cmn32480> what? you mean a video of my wife complaining I spend too much time on this <bleep> website?
[20:24:37] <cmn32480> that'll go over like a fart in church
[20:24:44] <nick> i was thinking more the money, fame and constant praise you receive from the public
[20:24:53] <cmn32480> wait
[20:24:57] <cmn32480> what?
[20:25:11] <cmn32480> you get money, fame, andd constant praise?????
[20:25:18] <cmn32480> WTF???????!?!?!?!?!?!ELEVENTY!!!
[20:25:50] <nick> well sure, i've been taking hilary clintons speaking engagements since she's busy with the election
[20:25:54] * cmn32480 feels like he just got screwed in a very uncomfortable place
[20:25:58] <nick> why do you think i've not been here?
[20:26:20] * cmn32480 facepalms
[20:26:32] <cmn32480> I THOUGHT that guy in the speech looked familiar!
[20:27:01] <cmn32480> it didn't click when I saw his "Hello my name is n1" nametag
[20:27:05] <nick> got to pay for that private island somehow
[20:27:14] <cmn32480> you and hillary both
[20:28:39] <nick> i think they let her off on an interest only loan as it's through the clinton foundation, but i guess she'll never own that underground lair of hers.
[20:30:41] <cmn32480> save me a spot on a deserted beach, will you?
[20:32:40] <nick> of course, just don't ask too many questions about why it's deserted
[20:33:04] <cmn32480> <------Doesn't care why it is deserted.
[20:33:13] <cmn32480> I'll even BYOB
[20:34:31] <nick> i'll be sure to remember that
[20:34:51] <cmn32480> np
[20:35:10] <cmn32480> I'll bring it in on my personal seaplane
[20:36:19] * cmn32480 thinks that perhaps he should not have told arthur to process 3 days of RSS logs
[20:39:58] <SirFinkus> someone needs to start a kickstarter for a "good" printer
[20:40:27] <SirFinkus> ink that isn't more expensive than gold
[20:43:09] <nick> that someone could be you!
[20:43:27] <dyingtolive> have you considered a cheaper laser printer?
[20:43:57] <SirFinkus> could be, but too lazy
[20:44:32] <SirFinkus> I imagine an ink cartel, like they do with diamonds
[20:44:51] <nick> 'big ink'
[20:45:07] <dyingtolive> 'blood ink' staring leonardo dicaprio
[20:45:11] <SirFinkus> a monopoly on squid
[20:46:09] <cmn32480> SirFinkus - Wireless capable laser printers are <$100
[20:46:20] <SirFinkus> but do they work?
[20:46:34] <cmn32480> I tink I saw a Samsung or a Brother at Staples the other day for $79.99 (pls tax)
[20:46:39] <cmn32480> I ahve one
[20:46:50] <cmn32480> had a brother HL-2040 for 8-10 years
[20:46:51] <dyingtolive> i use the clp-415. i can't get wireless to work well, but i'm about 100% sure that it is my crap router. ethernet works like a champ though.
[20:47:13] <cmn32480> I was a dumbass when I bought it and didn't get the wireless version
[20:47:36] <dyingtolive> http://www.amazon.com - looks like they dokn't make them anymore.
[20:47:38] <snowfire> ^ 03Amazon.com: Samsung Electronics CLP-415NW Wireless Color Printer: Electronics
[20:48:34] <dyingtolive> i'm sure they have some newer version. samsung's laser printer line is a good one though. i had the clp-315 before for probably 6-7 years before the feed motor in it finally gave out.
[20:48:35] <cmn32480> what spectrum do you use for your wireless?
[20:49:09] <dyingtolive> i have both 2.4 and 5ghz set up.
[20:49:27] <cmn32480> http://www.staples.com
[20:49:27] <snowfire> ^✓ 03Samsung M2830DW Xpress Monochrome Laser Printer | Staples®
[20:49:33] <cmn32480> this one is 2.4 only
[20:49:40] <cmn32480> $80
[20:51:21] <dyingtolive> that's probably the best bet that you could get as far as something efficient.
[20:51:37] <dyingtolive> also... cmn, do you live close to jacksonville?
[20:54:59] <cmn32480> jacksonville, FL?
[20:55:37] <dyingtolive> IL, in this case.
[20:56:22] <cmn32480> 'bout 850 miles
[20:57:10] <cmn32480> why do you ask?
[20:57:11] <dyingtolive> huh. nevermind then.
[20:57:52] <cmn32480> I keep telling people.. I don't do windows... regardless of pay
[20:58:19] <dyingtolive> that staples link had the "get it in stores" link for jacksonville, il. i've never lived there or had a reason to go close. figured either the link was leaking location information from you or some sort of geo-ip thing went wrong.
[20:59:09] <cmn32480> interesting
[20:59:22] <cmn32480> but no, I've probably never been within 100 miles of it
[20:59:40] <nick> it wants me to go: Framingham, MA 01701
[20:59:57] <cmn32480> I've been near there a couple times
[21:00:09] <nick> they only have 2
[21:00:14] <nick> so i better get there quick...
[21:00:38] <cmn32480> 6 or 8 hours...
[21:00:49] <cmn32480> unless you decide to swim...
[21:00:57] <dyingtolive> strange then.
[21:01:19] <cmn32480> I'm Baltimore-ish
[21:02:10] <dyingtolive> i'm sure you have closer staples then, and i know i do.
[21:02:17] <cmn32480> yes I do
[21:02:26] <cmn32480> several, actually!
[21:03:30] <dyingtolive> i think i'll jsut chalk it up to standard issue web page sketchyness and not worry too much more about it.
[21:03:40] <cmn32480> good plan
[21:03:43] <cmn32480> ~weather
[21:03:45] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 63°F / 17°C, mostly cloudy, wind SW at 4 mph, humidity 37% - Saturday partly cloudy (46°F:62°F / 8°C:17°C), Sunday rain (37°F:54°F / 3°C:12°C), Monday partly cloudy (34°F:49°F / 1°C:9°C), Tuesday mostly cloudy (39°F:44°F / 4°C:7°C)
[21:04:19] <dyingtolive> that's quite a temp drop
[21:04:23] <dyingtolive> ~weather
[21:04:26] <exec> 10St Louis, MO, USA - currently 76°F / 24°C, sunny, wind SW at 8 mph, humidity 28% - Saturday partly cloudy (43°F:76°F / 6°C:24°C), Sunday mostly sunny (34°F:55°F / 1°C:13°C), Monday partly cloudy (34°F:51°F / 1°C:11°C), Tuesday mostly cloudy (36°F:54°F / 2°C:12°C)
[21:06:07] <cmn32480> it si rather nice outside atm
[21:06:20] <cmn32480> but I leave tomorrow morning...
[21:06:29] <cmn32480> ~weather Louisville, KY
[21:06:30] <exec> 10Louisville, KY, USA - currently 74°F / 23°C, sunny, wind W at 14 mph, humidity 39% - Saturday thunderstorm (56°F:75°F / 13°C:24°C), Sunday rain (36°F:58°F / 2°C:14°C), Monday partly cloudy (32°F:50°F / 0°C:10°C), Tuesday mostly sunny (39°F:55°F / 4°C:13°C)
[21:06:39] <cmn32480> you can never have too much lube
[21:07:06] <cmn32480> 'specially in Tenneessee and Kentucky
[21:07:11] <dyingtolive> surprised KY is going to be that chilly.
[21:07:52] <cmn32480> she yelps when the ky is that cold
[21:08:05] <cmn32480> been a weird ass winter
[21:08:23] <cmn32480> we had a bunch of days that were single digits
[21:08:29] <cmn32480> and the wind chill was fierce
[21:08:37] <cmn32480> today it is mid-60's
[21:08:42] <cmn32480> I don't know
[21:09:34] <cmn32480> did I read something someplace that Ubuntu is releasing a new LTS in April?
[21:09:41] <dyingtolive> yeah, it's been odd here too. of course, "odd" is normal for us, weather wise.
[21:10:03] <cmn32480> yeah but the swings are the part taht sucks
[21:10:05] <dyingtolive> i turned my back on that distro a long time ago. not sure.
[21:10:15] <cmn32480> fair' nuff
[21:10:23] <cmn32480> if ti is gonna be a warm winter
[21:10:29] <cmn32480> be warm! if not, be cold
[21:10:35] <dyingtolive> they'd be due for it though, wouldn't they? ubuntu, that is.
[21:10:36] <cmn32480> but pick one for gods sake
[21:10:42] <cmn32480> yeah
[21:10:53] <cmn32480> I think the last LTS was 14.04
[21:11:06] <dyingtolive> sounds about right.
[21:11:19] <cmn32480> we published an article about it... that must be where I saw it
[21:13:03] <cmn32480> I don't do much in Linux...
[21:13:12] <cmn32480> mostly Windows for the day job
[21:13:21] <dyingtolive> i read something somewhere about zfs support coming as well, i believve.
[21:13:29] <cmn32480> that was the article we published
[21:13:36] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[21:13:37] <snowfire> ^ 03SN article:  ZFS is Coming to Ubuntu LTS 16.04 04(29 comments)
[21:14:46] <dyingtolive> heh. probably explains why i read about it then.
[21:40:42] <paulej72> chickenbutt
[21:40:47] <paulej72> chickenbutt++
[21:40:47] <Bender> karma - chickenbutt: 1
[21:42:38] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:42:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2263
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[21:54:54] <SirFinkus> more free steam shit http://www.makewarnotlove.com
[21:54:55] <snowfire> ^ 03Make War Not Love 3
[22:04:29] <crutchy> http://www.buzzfeed.com
[22:04:30] <snowfire> ^ 03America Is Now Fighting A Proxy War With Itself In Syria - BuzzFeed News ( http://www.buzzfeed.com )
[22:07:12] <nick> seems like a decent article
[22:08:22] <nick> article seems to assume this is a new thing, but otherwise quite a decent summary
[22:08:58] <dyingtolive> i still have a hard time taking buzzfeed seriously.
[22:11:22] <nick> yeah, was going to say shame about the buzzfeed
[22:11:32] <nick> but the article stands well by itself
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[22:14:27] <dyingtolive> yeah. they're kind of turning out like vice in a lot of ways. most of their stuff is laughably terrible, but then they do stuff like the NK documentary and stuff.
[22:16:31] <dyingtolive> css--
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[22:18:54] <nick> i liked vice a few years ago, but what ive seen and heard of theirs lately has been trash
[22:19:10] <nick> and reports of how they do business and treat their writers
[22:19:40] <SirFinkus> "writers" is generous
[22:20:16] <nick> well, they get what they pay for with that apparently
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[22:20:59] <nick> the vice guides to travel were very good at the time
[22:21:31] <SirFinkus> they still some pretty good stuff
[22:21:39] <SirFinkus> their ukraine coverage was good
[22:23:40] <nick> i'll have to look into them again
[22:23:58] <SirFinkus> everything else is garbage though
[22:24:18] <SirFinkus> well, the food porn is all right too
[22:29:10] <crutchy> there's also a telegraph article
[22:29:11] <crutchy> https://www.google.com.au
[22:29:14] <crutchy> oops
[22:29:22] <crutchy> http://www.telegraph.co.uk
[22:29:23] <snowfire> ^ 03US-backed militia groups now fighting each other in Syria - Telegraph
[22:29:32] <crutchy> though i trust telegraph even less
[22:30:37] <crutchy> CBS is probably a better source
[22:30:38] <crutchy> http://www.cbsnews.com
[22:30:39] <snowfire> ^ 03U.S.-backed rebel groups in Syria reportedly fighting each other - CBS News
[22:30:48] <crutchy> though not much
[22:33:38] <nick> what is the better article, others can be used as extra sources
[22:34:02] <nick> then no one can complain if is the buzzfeed article in summary or whatever bullshit
[22:36:00] <crutchy> not sure. afaik the whole story is from the so-theyre-finally-starting-to-wake-up-and-smell-the-bullshit dept.
[22:36:28] <crutchy> just about everyone else has realised the stupidity of supporting the rebels for a long time
[22:36:33] <nick> only when the timing is right
[22:37:49] <nick> i think the situation is going to become more streamlined soon, either ISIS is going to get in the headlines again or they're going to be forgotten about now the job is done and the focus shifts to russia's 'interference in the region'
[22:38:28] <crutchy> everyone will be focused more on the 2016 election soon. syria will become a different planet
[22:38:37] <SirFinkus> well, clinton won nevada
[22:38:38] <nick> that's already happened in fairness
[22:39:00] <nick> from what ive seen, since the new year, the syria conflict has fallen off the radar of the mainstream press
[22:39:36] <crutchy> the other twist on that story is that apparently turkey is also shelling US-backed rebels
[22:39:44] <nick> no one's been talking up an ISIS threat either after building it throughout the last year
[22:39:53] <crutchy> so basically the US is fighting a proxy war with a NATO ally :p
[22:39:56] <nick> i don't think that's an apparent thing
[22:40:10] <nick> it's quite open that turkey bombs the kurds that the us support in other conficts
[22:40:13] <nick> conflicts*
[22:40:28] <nick> but that's been a 'between you guys' deal for the last few decades
[22:40:53] * crutchy wonders how the rebels on the ground must feel about knowing the supposed 'good guys' are shelling them
[22:41:10] <nick> i just remember a documentary where some kurds in iraq where featured
[22:41:12] <crutchy> kinda highlights the shittiness of the whole situation
[22:41:20] <nick> and one says something like "the US would never let this happen to us again"
[22:41:48] <crutchy> and becomes no surprise why russia has gone with the 'fuck it... lets just bomb the crap out of the lot of em' approach
[22:42:39] <nick> well, they're going for 'regional stability'
[22:42:43] <crutchy> though apparently the russians are coordinating with the YPK or somesuch kurds
[22:42:59] <crutchy> apparently the same kurds that the turks are shelling or something
[22:43:02] <crutchy> lol
[22:43:06] <nick> which is something that was talked up quite a lot, until there was an opening to get rid of the ruling elite in syria and libya
[22:43:09] <SirFinkus> cheese curds are delicious
[22:43:14] <nick> then things got a bit more open to interpretation
[22:43:16] <SirFinkus> turkish delight is less so
[22:43:21] <crutchy> it would be even funnier if it wasn't such a tragedy
[22:44:03] <nick> there was a story i saw the other day about Turkish involvement in the gas/chemical attacks in Syria
[22:44:25] <crutchy> that wouldn't surprise me
[22:44:44] <crutchy> what's really scary is that turkey is minding a stash of US nukes
[22:45:08] <crutchy> though i'd guess there are at least some US troops guarding them
[22:45:20] <nick> http://www.todayszaman.com
[22:45:21] <snowfire> ^ 03CHP deputies: Gov’t rejects probe into Turkey’s role in Syrian chemical attack
[22:45:46] <nick> well, i mean can they be worse than pakistan?
[22:45:58] <crutchy> if ISIS should somehow get hold of those nukes...
[22:46:11] <nick> it would be blamed on Iran
[22:46:19] <crutchy> probably
[22:46:22] <crutchy> or russia
[22:46:28] <crutchy> or north korea :p
[22:46:41] <crutchy> ooh the new 'axis of ebil'
[22:46:42] <nick> don't know about that, there would be a strong burden of proof to show it was russia there
[22:46:59] <crutchy> russia would likely brush off such accusation anyway
[22:47:11] <nick> would be a lot easier to convince on iran, unlikely DPRK as amusing as it would be
[22:47:18] <crutchy> 'fuck you murica... we chave nuke too'
[22:47:52] <crutchy> or that lebanese outfit in damascus
[22:47:55] <crutchy> whatsitsname
[22:48:00] <crutchy> hezbollah
[22:48:31] <crutchy> then they could also hang it on assad
[22:48:41] <nick> no one's ever going really put on record who's proxy group shot down that plane over ukraine, i doubt there'd be much incentive to put the finger on russia for ISIS getting nukes
[22:49:04] <crutchy> true
[22:49:19] <nick> russia has it's own internal problems with muslim militants too, whos backing is open to interpretation from what i understand
[22:49:26] <nick> would be a dangerous escalation
[22:51:12] * nick ponders giving Gravis a troll mod for his comment on the Trump story
[22:52:05] <dyingtolive> man what happened with that earlier? i just wandered in midway and he seemed kind of pissy about something about mods.
[22:52:50] <nick> he downmodded one person in one story on several comments, 3 of the staff agreed it was abusing moderation and reversed it
[22:53:14] <dyingtolive> you have some way of detecting that?
[22:53:31] * SirFinkus bets he'd come back into irc and bitch about it if you did
[22:53:43] <crutchy> SirFinkus, so true
[22:53:46] <nick> yeah, have a system that detects 'modbombing'
[22:53:53] <dyingtolive> i gues that makes sense. the system knows who modded who to prevent multiple mods on the same comment.
[22:54:05] <dyingtolive> never thought about it much
[22:54:15] <nick> so it gets flagged if someone uses a lot of negative points
[22:54:19] <nick> i don't know the specifics
[22:54:35] <dyingtolive> i'll remember that in case i ever find i'm in a foul mood. :)
[22:54:42] <nick> it's not a common problem
[22:54:50] <nick> gravis is not so great at making friends though
[22:54:59] <crutchy> i've actually been involved in an action to reverse negative mod bomb on some of gravis' comments
[22:55:04] <dyingtolive> so it seems.
[22:55:05] <nick> i'm on his shitlist for some reason
[22:55:08] <paulej72> plop plop fizz fizz
[22:55:13] <crutchy> he should really be thankful the staff care as much as they do
[22:55:17] <nick> according to his 'foes' list or whatever
[22:55:56] <nick> don't know if he realises i'm n1, and i've tried to defend his position in here, or just doesn't care
[22:56:05] <crutchy> ok i just tagged along. it was really tmb and others that started it :p
[22:56:06] <dyingtolive> that's quite a foes list.
[22:56:17] <nick> i'd love to know what i did that made him do that, what did i say?
[22:56:24] <nick> did i publish a story he found objectionable....
[22:56:41] <crutchy> likely
[22:56:57] <crutchy> that would be cause for immediate termination
[22:57:01] <dyingtolive> i mean, half those people on there, i can't even think of anything i've seen them post, let along anything foe-worthy.
[22:57:57] <dyingtolive> huh. i have fans apparently. never saw that coming.
[22:58:18] <SirFinkus> I'm friends with him :D
[22:58:23] <dyingtolive> never really part of the site i paid much attention to.
[22:58:29] <dyingtolive> you and takyon.
[22:58:37] <paulej72> i am prob on his shit list too
[22:59:10] <nick> i can't believe it
[22:59:21] <nick> i'm on his shitlist, but TMB is not
[22:59:25] <paulej72> i took the hit to do the mod ban and message him about it
[22:59:27] <nick> life is not fair.
[22:59:41] <SirFinkus> actually shocked at that
[23:00:04] <SirFinkus> TMB entertains his feature requests and such
[23:00:06] * SirFinkus shrugs
[23:00:38] <paulej72> if life was fair I would have a 14" penis that was a thick as a baseball bat
[23:01:05] <dyingtolive> what would you realistically do with that penis?
[23:01:12] <dyingtolive> other than scare people?
[23:01:24] <SirFinkus> animals with those types of cocks typically end up as glue and violin bows after a short life
[23:01:25] <nick> baseball by the sounds of it
[23:01:26] <paulej72> i don't know but it would be fun to have
[23:02:12] <dyingtolive> you could go for about 30" and then take up golf. i don't think the results would be comfortable though.
[23:02:49] <paulej72> i dont know hitting balls with your penis is a bit gay
[23:03:02] <dyingtolive> touche
[23:03:21] <paulej72> not that I am homophobic
[23:04:04] <dyingtolive> i'm going to take the dog out on a nice long walk, since it's beautiful outside. i'll be back later to mod css more into the ground.
[23:04:07] <nick> i was told you should try everything at least once
[23:04:35] * nick hat tip
[23:05:08] <paulej72> that is what boy scouts are for (not that I was one)
[23:05:48] <nick> couldn't think of anything worse
[23:05:53] <nick> in context
[23:08:14] <paulej72> cack to coding
[23:08:21] <paulej72> back
[23:10:38] <crutchy> yeah me too
[23:11:21] <nick> if someone could submit some stories, would be like super awesome
[23:11:53] <cmn32480> ~gday crutchy
[23:11:57] * exec prematurely tosses an assload of beer to crutchy
[23:12:04] <cmn32480> I forgot that I ran arthur nick
[23:12:10] <crutchy> ahoy! cmn32480
[23:12:45] <cmn32480> how is life down under?
[23:21:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Burundi on the Brink of Civil War - http://sylnt.us - war-never-changes
[23:25:17] <dyingtolive> ~weather
[23:25:19] <exec> 10St Louis, MO, USA - currently 71°F / 22°C, partly cloudy, wind E at 4 mph, humidity 44% - Saturday isolated thunderstorms (43°F:76°F / 6°C:24°C), Sunday mostly sunny (34°F:55°F / 1°C:13°C), Monday partly cloudy (33°F:51°F / 1°C:11°C), Tuesday mostly cloudy (36°F:54°F / 2°C:12°C)
[23:25:31] <dyingtolive> ah. thunderstorms.
[23:29:54] <dyingtolive> yup. still hate css too.
[23:29:57] <dyingtolive> css--
[23:29:57] <Bender> karma - css: -1
[23:30:31] <Subsentient> $godzilla
[23:30:31] * aqu4 turns into Godzilla and begins to wreak havoc upon you all
[23:30:32] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:30:33] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:30:33] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:30:34] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:30:35] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:30:36] * aqu4 eats Azrael
[23:30:37] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:30:37] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:30:38] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:30:39] * aqu4 craps out Azrael on alexbst
[23:30:40] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:30:41] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:30:41] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:30:42] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:30:43] * aqu4 slowly shrinks back to normal size and scampers off
[23:31:11] <Subsentient> $burrito crutchy
[23:31:11] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy
[23:31:19] <paulej72> good boy aqu4
[23:31:29] <Subsentient> $burrito paulej72
[23:31:29] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at paulej72
[23:31:46] <paulej72> !bier aqu4
[23:31:46] * Bender reikt een flesje brand aan voor aqu4
[23:32:03] <paulej72> corrupting minors
[23:32:23] <Subsentient> $beer Bender
[23:32:23] * aqu4 gives Bender a cold can of beer
[23:34:24] <Subsentient> $godzilla
[23:34:24] * aqu4 turns into Godzilla and begins to wreak havoc upon you all
[23:34:25] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:34:26] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:34:26] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:34:27] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:34:28] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:34:29] * aqu4 eats SanityCheck
[23:34:30] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:34:30] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:34:31] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:34:32] * aqu4 craps out SanityCheck on Bender
[23:34:33] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:34:34] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:34:34] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:34:35] <aqu4> *ROMP*
[23:34:36] * aqu4 slowly shrinks back to normal size and scampers off
[23:34:52] * Subsentient snickers like a gerbil high on xenon
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[23:40:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i see gravis got sand in his vagina that the rules apply to him same as everyone else.
[23:41:41] <crutchy> probably
[23:42:13] <crutchy> its ironic that equality is antisocialist :p
[23:45:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> equal treatment under the law has always been antisocialist. he must have forgotten that.
[23:47:01] <crutchy> got my beam selection thingy working thismorning. was a productive little coding session last night
[23:47:25] <crutchy> next step is applying attributes to selected nodes/beams
[23:47:55] <crutchy> unfortunately i gotta go visit inlaws today so wont be able to tackle that till tonight :(
[23:49:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ick
[23:49:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> inlaws
[23:49:41] <crutchy> my inlaws are ok at least
[23:50:04] <crutchy> but (in orc voice) i'd rather be coding
[23:50:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> you shop around till you found a woman whose family you could stand before you got married or something?
[23:51:06] <crutchy> dunno. i struck it lucky i guess
[23:54:36] <crutchy> i've had doozy agruments with the mother in law
[23:55:01] <crutchy> but that's just cos she doesn't beat around the bush
[23:55:45] <crutchy> i argue with the missus too. i think maybe arguing is a prerequisite for a lasting marraige maybe?
[23:56:07] <crutchy> fiik
[23:56:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> definitely. can't let them walk around being wrong all the time.
[23:57:58] <crutchy> better to vent regularly in small amounts maybe than bottle it up and go nuclear
[23:59:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i have the same feeling on farts.