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[00:00:35] <cmn32480> so 24cores....
[00:00:46] <cmn32480> this thing will do a WU in like 8 minutes
[00:00:54] <chromas> or get bigger WUs
[00:00:55] <cmn32480> providing it doesn't melt
[00:01:03] <chromas> definitely moar points though
[00:01:20] <chromas> I think they have differen WU sizes for different hardware
[00:01:40] <cmn32480> if I thought I could get away with shutting down the corporate infrastructure for a few hours just to see... I would totally do it
[00:01:56] <chromas> Maybe you can just slip it in the backdoor
[00:02:00] * cmn32480 contemplates VMotioning all boxen to one server
[00:02:08] <chromas> Speaking of back doors, where's SpallsHurgenson?
[00:02:13] <cmn32480> and melting the other one....
[00:02:27] <chromas> ~last nick=SpallsHurgenson type=quit
[00:02:43] <exec> 03[2016-01-20 02:52:0] #Soylent <SpallsHurgenson> Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de
[00:02:50] <chromas> frown
[00:02:56] <cmn32480> wow... unuisual
[00:04:31] <chromas> I wonder if you could build semi-custom hardware for f@h, like people do for mining buttcoins
[00:05:23] <chromas> fpgas
[00:20:38] <Gravis> chromas: of course you can... if you can rewrite the software to use it
[00:21:26] <chromas> true. I suppose what I should've asked is if it would be worthwhile, performance-to-energy-wise
[00:22:12] <chromas> to make it cheaper to stay at the top of the list :D
[00:22:18] <Gravis> chromas: no, what you should have asked, is how you can trick bitcoin miners into using half of their power to do f@h computations
[00:23:04] <chromas> also, sneak a javascript f@h client into peoples' websites
[00:23:28] <Gravis> fuck that
[00:23:31] <chromas> hm, didn't someone get caught doing that with a buttcoin miner?
[00:23:50] <chromas> well you don't just run random javascripts so it won't affect you; only those plebs :)
[00:24:19] <Gravis> however, i have thought of an idea for funding a social network by using their computation cycles as payment
[00:24:46] <chromas> Is that separate from'ving a p2p social network?
[00:25:08] <Gravis> wtf is "from'ving"?
[00:25:26] <chromas> a contraction
[00:25:33] <Gravis> of what?
[00:25:39] <chromas> the sentence is about to have a babyu
[00:26:09] <Gravis> uhh... how is babby formed?
[00:26:22] <chromas> You're right, I shouldn't've contracted unusual word combinations
[00:26:28] <chromas> or shouldn't've
[00:27:38] <Gravis> oh i see now. no, it's not separate from having a p2p social network.
[00:27:55] <chromas> Anyway, take xmpp, toss in some fancier status modules and you've got a nice shitty social network
[00:28:11] <Gravis> chromas: fuck you, eat trash.
[00:28:16] <chromas> Chat, status messages, file sharing, pictures
[00:28:19] <Gravis> chromas: i dont think that's a good idea
[00:28:34] <chromas> And it's federated like email
[00:28:43] <chromas> So you can run your own soyvuh
[00:28:43] <Gravis> irc tourettes, i swear
[00:28:45] <Gravis> pig fucker
[00:29:06] <chromas> Ooh, does that include docking with a hotdog?
[00:29:08] <Gravis> wtf is soyvuh?
[00:29:16] <chromas> server with an accent
[00:29:59] <Gravis> /facepalm
[00:29:59] <chromas> that archie bunker/stooge-type accent
[00:30:14] <chromas> where voice becomes verse and verse becomes voice
[00:30:22] <Gravis> no, it's just another retardism
[00:30:35] <chromas> like all accents that are different from mine :D
[00:30:57] <Gravis> it's not an accent, you are just saying words incorrectly.
[00:31:05] <chromas> that's what accents are
[00:31:12] <Gravis> exactly
[00:31:22] <chromas> so it is an accent
[00:31:27] <Gravis> it's not an accent, you are just saying words incorrectly.
[00:31:34] <chromas> that's what accents are
[00:31:36] <Gravis> exactly
[00:31:38] <chromas> so it is an accent
[00:31:41] <Gravis> it's not an accent, you are just saying words incorrectly.
[00:31:48] <chromas> systemd
[00:32:01] * Gravis dump core
[00:32:04] <chromas> I mean, uh, GOTO 10
[00:32:31] <Gravis> chromas: type better, motherfucker. say shit right too, bitch.
[00:33:09] <chromas> I type pretty well, actually. 100% of my keystrokes succeed at generating some sort of symbol
[00:33:28] <Gravis> chromas: whitespace?
[00:33:47] <chromas> there's a symbol, just not a glyph
[00:34:21] <chromas> okay, 85% symbols, 12% whitespace, and 143% offense to your sensibilities
[00:34:22] <Gravis> so, you're deep into symbolism. i see.
[00:35:19] <Gravis> hmm... reminds me of symbols in object code
[00:35:54] * chromas re-wraps his arm
[00:36:11] <chromas> at least it's not itching today
[00:36:34] <Bytram> chromas: what happened to your arm?
[00:36:46] * Bytram hopes it doesn't also happen to x86's
[00:36:49] <Gravis> Bytram: he broke it while whackin it
[00:37:29] <chromas> Nah, washing dishes. Got a bowl cut
[00:37:32] <Gravis> Subsentient: are you here?
[00:38:11] <Gravis> chromas: you were whackin' it while washing dishes?! ok seriously, you have a problem.
[00:38:29] <chromas> I was trying to circumcise at the same time
[00:38:33] <chromas> https://drive.google.com
[00:38:34] <snowfire> ^ 03IMG_20160207_092159.jpg - Google Drive
[00:40:53] <Subsentient> Gravis: Am now
[00:41:28] <Gravis> Subsentient: would you like to help me? i have some code that needs writing.
[00:41:45] <Subsentient> Gravis: Depends on the code and the time it will take to do it.
[00:41:53] <Gravis> Subsentient: i need to make a VFS for sockets
[00:41:53] <Subsentient> I'm studying a lot lately
[00:42:00] <chromas> He pays in peanut butter
[00:42:42] <chromas> what'cha studyin', Subsentient?
[00:42:43] <Subsentient> Gravis: Like, a virtual filesystem like nfs?
[00:43:02] <Subsentient> chromas: C++, mostly. I hate it, but I need some stuff.
[00:43:06] <Gravis> Subsentient: it has more in common with /proc
[00:44:02] <Gravis> Subsentient: the basic idea is that processes create socket files and when the PID of the process ceases to exist, the VFS will torch the socket file
[00:44:47] <chromas> the process doesn't clean up after itself?
[00:44:49] <Subsentient> ahh, like network sockets?
[00:44:52] <chromas> is that like for when it dies?
[00:44:58] <Gravis> Subsentient: yes
[00:44:59] <Subsentient> Aren't those reused for each process?
[00:45:19] <Gravis> Subsentient: sockets cannot be reused
[00:45:24] <Gravis> which is weird
[00:45:33] <Gravis> socket files*
[00:45:35] <Subsentient> Gravis: I mean, the socket ID. The integer descriptor
[00:46:29] <Gravis> Subsentient: you dont need to worry about that part, just the socket files and the PIDs that created them
[00:46:47] <Subsentient> Gravis: oh you mean like a fifo?
[00:46:58] <chromas> You can pass sockets to child processes
[00:47:14] <Gravis> chromas: i know all about them
[00:47:31] <chromas> Just get all your sockets from systemd :D
[00:47:35] <Gravis> Subsentient: it's just a socket file, don't worry about how it's used.
[00:47:42] <chromas> oh, then the work should be easy for you :D
[00:47:51] <Gravis> chromas: this is for getting rid of systemd/dbus
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[00:48:17] <chromas> you can copy them. create socket, hand it to subprocess
[00:48:33] <Gravis> chromas: thanks, that's so unrelated! :D
[00:48:50] <chromas> it's so unrelated that what you're trying to replace does it
[00:49:08] <Gravis> chromas: your english is failing
[00:49:36] <chromas> well here's a consolation: https://www.youtube.com
[00:49:36] <snowfire> ^✓ 03Kazoo Kid - Trap Remix - YouTube
[00:49:49] <Subsentient> Gravis: It might be better to write a simple IPC library.
[00:50:03] <Subsentient> It'd be a good replacement for dbus.
[00:50:18] <Subsentient> No socket files or magic, just integer descriptors and plugging into a library.
[00:50:52] <chromas> you'd still need something for the actual ipc
[00:50:58] <chromas> I guess you could do shared memory
[00:51:08] <Gravis> Subsentient: yeah and the addresses in magic land are sure to exist, right? oh wait, no.
[00:51:19] <Gravis> Subsentient: this is unix, everything is a file
[00:51:33] <Subsentient> alright
[00:51:45] <chromas> you're thinking of plan9
[00:51:46] <Gravis> Subsentient: there is more too it that ensures only process XYZ can use socket file ABC
[00:52:23] <Subsentient> Gravis: BTW, network device names are not a file in Linux.
[00:52:23] <Subsentient> :^)
[00:52:24] <Gravis> Subsentient: the effective UID and effective GID must be part of the socket name
[00:52:30] <Subsentient> No such thing as /dev/eth0
[00:52:51] <Gravis> Subsentient: which makes them bothersome
[00:53:03] <Subsentient> Gravis: It does! I often wished for a /dev/eth0
[00:53:16] <chromas> /sys/class/net/
[00:53:45] <Subsentient> chromas: that provides info and some settings, but not raw access through a file
[00:53:45] <chromas> Gravis: s/bo.*/problematic/
[00:53:45] <sedctl> <chromas> <Gravis> Subsentient: which makes them problematic
[00:54:49] <Gravis> chromas: sure that too
[00:57:57] <chromas> yeah their reasoning for lack of /dev nodes for networking are dumb
[00:59:14] <Gravis> Subsentient: basically, i need you to make udsfs which is described here: http://pastebin.com
[00:59:15] <snowfire> ^ 03systemd/dbus replacement - Pastebin.com
[01:00:27] <Gravis> Subsentient: socket files are the easiest way to make sane IPC
[01:01:06] <chromas> Subsentient: do it in c++ :D
[01:02:17] <Gravis> Subsentient: if you are going to do this, either use libfuse or make a kernel module
[01:02:50] <Gravis> actually, i need the libfuse version no matter what, so make that.
[01:03:15] <Subsentient> Gravis: Let me contemplate it for a bit. Honestly, it seems like the kind of project that would take too much time from other work. I'll still consider it though.
[01:04:06] <Gravis> erm ok... fuse isn't particularly complex.
[01:04:28] <Gravis> Subsentient: see: https://github.com
[01:04:29] <snowfire> ^ 03GitHub - GravisZro/famixer: a proof of concept ALSA mixer based on FUSE
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[01:05:37] <Subsentient> Gravis: My problem is I suffer from very severe chronic exhaustion. As a result, it's a major production to drag myself up to write 20 lines of code on most days.
[01:06:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Try METH.
[01:06:19] <chromas> <Gravis> Subsentient: It's so easy that I'm pawning it off one someone else
[01:06:20] <chromas> ;)
[01:06:57] <Gravis> chromas: i just thought it was something that didn't seem too complex. i'll do it myself if it's a big deal
[01:08:37] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Caffeine doesn't seem to help me, I sleep fine, so yeah, I guess I'm kinda screwed.
[01:09:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Maybe you can snag a wikkid Adderall script from a doctor.
[01:09:19] <Ethanol-fueled> obamacare++
[01:09:19] <Bender> karma - obamacare: 2
[01:09:39] <Gravis> Subsentient: stop eating sugar
[01:09:50] <Subsentient> Gravis: I don't eat much sugar.
[01:09:56] <Gravis> Subsentient: dont eat any
[01:10:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, do you partake in a strenuous yet healthy exercise regimen?
[01:10:12] <Gravis> Subsentient: there is a LOT of sugar in everyday foods
[01:10:13] * chromas removes Subsentient's fruits and vegetables
[01:10:24] <Ethanol-fueled> It hurts like a bitch, but works wonders for energy levels.
[01:10:47] <Ethanol-fueled> TO LIVE IS TO SUFFER
[01:10:52] <Gravis> Subsentient: bread has multiple grams per slice of bread.
[01:11:10] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: I do not. My OCD medication has the horrifying side effect of making me break a sweat sitting still. I have to have a fan pointed at my head 24 hours a day to prevent sweating.
[01:11:33] <Gravis> Subsentient: your regualr peanut butter is 25% sugar
[01:11:36] * Ethanol-fueled is actually pretty lethargic lately as well
[01:11:50] <chromas> Subsentient needs Brawndo
[01:11:59] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: "The more people accept the world to be a dark place, the more people will try to turn on some lights."
[01:12:17] <Gravis> chromas: it is what people crave
[01:12:31] <Subsentient> It's got electrolytes!
[01:12:56] <chromas> Subsentient: yeah, be sure to chug water too
[01:13:19] <chromas> like out the toilet
[01:13:34] <Subsentient> mmm, lemonade
[01:13:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Beans are pretty awesome. So's oatmeal.
[01:14:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Only problem is that, by the time you make 'em bearable to eat, they're not healthy anymore.
[01:14:04] <Ethanol-fueled> cheese++
[01:14:04] <Bender> karma - cheese: 12
[01:14:06] <Gravis> Subsentient: start looking at how much sugar your foods contain. your DV of sugar is 3 to 5 grams.
[01:14:08] <Ethanol-fueled> sodium++
[01:14:08] <Bender> karma - sodium: 1
[01:14:39] <Gravis> Subsentient: do note that they dont put a DV percentage on food. they lobbied to have it excluded
[01:15:06] <Subsentient> What a surprise.
[01:15:21] <Gravis> Subsentient: doesn't look good when a Coke has 1000% your DV of sugar
[01:15:39] <Ethanol-fueled> 8g of sugar in an 8 oz serving of low-sodium V-8 juice
[01:15:44] <Subsentient> Probably the same assholes who force me to buy natural tobacco because they won't put whether or not their cigs contain castoreum.
[01:15:47] <chromas> lol, there's a TweetFS. You can easily guess what that does
[01:16:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, if you're unhealthy now, then you'll likely be more unhealthy after quitting....though your lungs would thank you.
[01:16:29] <Gravis> chromas: it proves you are an idiot to the world. ;)
[01:17:01] <chromas> if you write #GamerGate into it then it becomes a block device
[01:17:03] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: I like my tobacco too much. It does help with the anxiety for OCD that slips through the medication's watchful eye.
[01:17:11] <chromas> /drums
[01:17:22] <Subsentient> ANd it keeps me from eating like a hog.
[01:17:33] <chromas> You roll your own?
[01:17:33] <Ethanol-fueled> that's what I meant, subsentient
[01:17:37] <Subsentient> I am a chronic boredom-eater, and smoking helps that.
[01:17:43] <Subsentient> chromas: Yeah.
[01:17:46] <Ethanol-fueled> people who quit almost always gain weight instantly
[01:17:46] <Gravis> Subsentient: anyway, your lethargy may just be constant withdraw from sugar
[01:18:05] <Subsentient> Unless I'm out, in which case I buy American Spirit. Usually turqoise.
[01:18:08] <chromas> constant withdrawal if he's still eating it?
[01:18:13] <Ethanol-fueled> AMerican_spirit++
[01:18:13] <Bender> karma - american_spirit: 2
[01:18:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Wuz my preferred brand before I quit.
[01:18:31] <chromas> Subsentient: grow your own
[01:18:33] <chromas> tomacco++
[01:18:33] <Bender> karma - tomacco: 1
[01:18:39] <Ethanol-fueled> "quit" meaning smokes 2-3 x a year
[01:18:53] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: American Spirit is expensive and harsh, but I do like it better than the others.
[01:18:54] <Gravis> chromas: he's not always eating it
[01:19:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, it's not good for you but it's better than, say Marlboro
[01:19:34] <chromas> He's certainly not eating more sugar than the rest of us, yet he's the only one with that problem, so
[01:19:37] <Gravis> everyone that eats "normal" food is addicted to sugar
[01:20:07] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: the problem is, for vegetarians like me, it's hard to find "clean" tobacco that doesn't contain castoreum. Castoreum is a horribly cruel ingredient that is harvested from the ANUSES of murdered beavers.
[01:20:14] <Gravis> chromas: the number of people that have similar conditions has increased as the amount of sugar in food has increased
[01:20:34] <chromas> Subsentient: beavers are assholes
[01:20:41] <chromas> certainly most of them live next to asshole
[01:20:42] <chromas> s
[01:20:51] <Ethanol-fueled> hahhahahah
[01:20:53] <Subsentient> lol
[01:21:00] <Gravis> chromas: "he says his arm hurts but our arms feel fine. clearly a broken arm is not the source of the pain."
[01:21:08] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm a meat-eater and have no lingering problems with lethargy. Hint, hint.
[01:21:23] <chromas> Gravis: your line of statements implies we all have broken arms
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[01:21:37] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: I've had the exhaustion since way before I went vegetarian at 17.
[01:21:47] <Subsentient> Didn't get any worse or better when my diet changed.
[01:22:01] <Gravis> chromas: no, only that we all have arms.
[01:22:12] <Ethanol-fueled> If you're man enough to eat the animal's heart, you gain it's courage. It's sweet, tasty courage. It's why tuna fishers eat the heart of the first catch of the day.
[01:22:46] <Gravis> chromas: the broken arm is the difference
[01:22:54] <chromas> no, the pain is
[01:23:06] <Gravis> chromas: the pain is the lethargy
[01:23:13] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Eating meat for energy reminds me of 90 year old billionaires murdering teenagers for their blood for longevity and vitality.
[01:23:31] <chromas> You said we're all addicted to sugar and that his lethargy is possibly sugar withdrawal from eating the same amounts of sugar most of us probably do
[01:23:55] <Ethanol-fueled> coffee-related fluctuations in dose can also cause lethargy.
[01:24:00] <chromas> Subsentient: that's how they became millionaires
[01:24:02] <Gravis> chromas: if you stop eating sugar for two days, you will start having withdraw.
[01:24:12] * Ethanol-fueled is waiting for Soros to die already
[01:24:24] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Yeah, that guy gives me the willies.
[01:24:51] <chromas> Gravis: but he's constantly tired, thus he must be eating
[01:25:10] <Gravis> chromas: right because that's how withdraw works!
[01:25:12] <Subsentient> chromas: BTW, I have some Burley tobacco seeds. Haven't really grown it yet though.
[01:25:14] <chromas> or he'd be dead by now
[01:25:20] <Gravis> chromas: right because that's how withdraw works!
[01:25:38] <chromas> withdraw isn't a noun
[01:25:48] <chromas> /nick WordNazi
[01:25:52] <chromas> nazis++
[01:25:52] <Bender> karma - nazis: -7
[01:25:54] <Subsentient> No, but "horse semen" is.
[01:26:08] <chromas> How many kilocalories does horse semen have?
[01:26:20] <chromas> per load
[01:26:32] <Gravis> chromas: go blow a horse and find out
[01:26:47] <chromas> Gravis: I live in Washington; I can ask around
[01:26:50] <Ethanol-fueled> This is a bull? I thought it was a cow!
[01:27:37] <Gravis> chromas: they aren't going to say, "sure, you can give my horses BJs!" -_-
[01:27:55] <Subsentient> lol
[01:28:05] <chromas> Gravis: they'll tell me the volume and flavor, plus I can check the label branded onto the horse
[01:28:17] <Subsentient> "volume and flavor"
[01:28:43] <chromas> Of course it'll be sweeter if the horse eats more apples and carrots
[01:29:03] <Gravis> chromas: or they'll tell you to go blow a horse and then call the cops on you when you start blowing their horse.
[01:29:03] <chromas> And diet soda
[01:29:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Damn, was gonna grab chromas
[01:29:28] <chromas> Gravis: they've never called the cops before
[01:29:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, it probably smells like hay and chlorine
[01:29:56] <chromas> The real issue is if some jackass watching on youtube gets a stick up her butt
[01:29:59] <Gravis> chromas: so you've blown a lot of horses before, eh?
[01:30:08] <chromas> define "a lot"
[01:31:29] <chromas> cmn's gonna be at the top o' the list by tomorruh
[01:31:57] <Gravis> chromas: you're going to blow cmn's horses?
[01:32:09] <Gravis> chromas: you have a list of horses you're going to blow?
[01:32:20] <Gravis> chromas: dude! you have a serious problem!
[01:32:20] <chromas> it's more of a queue than a list
[01:32:42] <Gravis> i'm call dem coppa on ya
[01:32:44] <Gravis> YOU THERE(○｀д´)ﾉｼSTOP! Σ(っﾟДﾟ)っEeeek!
[01:32:55] <Gravis> chromas: you best run fast
[01:33:02] <chromas> we're in 22,643rd place
[01:33:18] <Ethanol-fueled> The list of horses....1. Trigger 2. SeaBiscuit...
[01:33:47] <chromas> Number one obvious uses twitter a lot
[01:34:30] <chromas> there's a lot of virtual filesystems using fuse
[01:34:51] <chromas> You can use gmail for disk storage, plus all the cloud drives and shat
[01:35:21] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:35:25] <chromas> I guess that makes it easy to drop off encrypted backup blobs
[01:35:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, is that what they sprinkle all over Greek salads?
[01:35:53] <chromas> that's the best kind of crust formation
[01:35:54] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: probably.
[01:36:22] <Subsentient> Gravis:
[01:36:30] <Gravis> Subsentient:
[01:36:33] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:36:45] <chromas> Needs a space in there
[01:37:34] <Subsentient> I have some really messed up favorites from efukt.com
[01:38:02] <Subsentient> With tantalizing titles such as "Smegma makes her gag"
[01:38:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Engineers 3-D-print a New Lifelike Liver Tissue for Drug Screening - http://sylnt.us - this-is-only-a-test
[01:38:48] <chromas> http://imgur.com
[01:38:48] <snowfire> ^ 03Happy Valentine's Day, The Internet - Imgur
[01:39:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Chromas:
[01:39:29] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.christophercantwell.com\
[01:39:33] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.christophercantwell.com
[01:40:36] <chromas> lol, the plane's smiley
[01:41:39] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:42:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Looks like I'll have my least favorite pick for Valentine's day weekend.
[01:42:56] <Ethanol-fueled> s/pick/pig/g
[01:42:56] <sedctl> <Ethanol-fueled> Looks like I'll have my least favorite pig for Valentine's day weekend.
[01:43:29] <Ethanol-fueled> At least she's decent to talk to.
[01:43:48] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:44:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahaha
[01:45:36] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: http://i.imgur.com
[01:48:00] <Ethanol-fueled> My buddy likes to flick his mean dog's nuts.
[01:51:55] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: hola
[01:53:11] <Ethanol-fueled> sup pauley
[01:53:40] <paulej72> the sky
[01:54:35] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:54:50] <Gravis> lulz: https://soylentnews.org
[01:54:51] <snowfire> ^ 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:3, Informative)
[01:55:24] <Subsentient> http://i.imgur.com
[01:56:32] <Subsentient> And I saved the best for last: http://i.imgur.com
[01:57:19] <paulej72> there is 50 more seconds to that last one. where are they
[01:57:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, it looks like a deleted scene from a Peter Gabriel video
[01:57:45] <paulej72> lol
[01:58:02] <paulej72> !grab Ethanol-fueled
[01:58:02] <Bender> Added quote 671
[01:59:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, have you seen Pink Flamingos?
[01:59:28] <Ethanol-fueled> If not I'd think you'd like it.
[01:59:28] <Subsentient> nope
[01:59:41] <Subsentient> hmm
[01:59:46] <Ethanol-fueled> look up "pink flamingos dog scene" on youtube. That's not even the worst part of the movie.
[02:01:32] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[02:01:33] <snowfire> ^ 03How much is that doggy in the window ? - YouTube
[02:01:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Requires sign-in though
[02:02:13] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: mmm tasty
[02:02:22] <Subsentient> hey, free fudge.
[02:02:56] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll give you another spoiler - a guy rhythmically clenching his exposed butthole to the classic single "Bird is the Word"
[02:03:09] <Ethanol-fueled> After behaving like a Chicken in public.
[02:03:49] <Ethanol-fueled> The DVD version has it as the menu screen, hahahahaha
[02:03:49] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: that sounds like the best movie of all time.
[02:04:58] <Ethanol-fueled> It's pretty good.
[02:05:24] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: The chicken or the clenching butthole as the menu? (hopes for clenching butthole)
[02:05:51] <Ethanol-fueled> the clenching butthole, played as a loop
[02:06:11] <Subsentient> YAYYYY!!!
[02:06:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Not even youtube has it though.
[02:08:28] <Ethanol-fueled> aw, crap. Maybe I;ll upload it later
[02:08:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Second Coming of Neuromorphic Computing - http://sylnt.us - making-smart-computers
[02:11:07] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: http://i.imgur.com
[02:11:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeeech.
[02:11:56] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Mmm, salty.
[02:12:00] <Ethanol-fueled> I can tolerate clenching buttholes, but mucus is where I draw the line.
[02:12:16] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: You can blow your nose before you wipe your ass, homemade wet wipe.
[02:12:28] <Ethanol-fueled> I remember one of my friends hocking a huge loogie on the asphalt at school, and the heat baked it into a crism
[02:12:33] <Ethanol-fueled> crisp.
[02:12:55] <Ethanol-fueled> the stain was there for weeks even after the loogie itself was long gone. It was the diamater of a baseball.
[02:13:39] <Ethanol-fueled> all of these loogies and dog shit are making it difficult to drink.
[02:13:41] <Subsentient> Mmm, baked loogies.
[02:14:02] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Hey, what's that floating in your glass?
[02:16:23] <Ethanol-fueled> it could be piss. It's a diluted bubbly straw color
[02:16:36] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Sure it's not gerbil jizz?
[02:16:45] <Ethanol-fueled> No, pretty sure.
[02:17:06] <Subsentient> Mmm, creamy gerbil jizz.
[02:17:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Somebody would have to jack a gerbil for weeks for me to sense it given the size of the drink.
[02:17:15] <Subsentient> Slides right down the throat, ey Ethanol-fueled?
[02:17:46] * Subsentient rolls a cigarette out of beard hair
[02:18:17] <Ethanol-fueled> as somebody who has burned his pubes off with a lighter, I can say that will be unsmokable.
[02:21:11] <Subsentient> I love this channel. I can be as deranged and bizarre as I want without getting banned or hauled off in a straight jacket.
[02:22:07] <chromas> now that's just homophobic
[02:22:40] * chromas uses a gay pansexual transgenered jacket of color
[02:22:57] <Subsentient> LOL\
[02:23:02] <Ethanol-fueled> The PC will fall.
[02:23:03] <Subsentient> chromas++
[02:23:03] <Bender> karma - chromas: 154
[02:23:26] <Ethanol-fueled> My aunt is a Frisco Dyke and even she admits that PC has gone too far.
[02:23:56] <chromas> Sure, lots of gay and trannies are against PCism, just like lots of women are against feminism
[02:24:47] * chromas conjures that south park scene where gay mr garrison is called a homophobe
[02:25:12] <Ethanol-fueled> I hope twitter implodes soon.
[02:25:35] <Ethanol-fueled> The only reason why Fuckbook hasn't is because they have more Palantir funding
[02:25:50] <chromas> isn't it weird how both twitter and timblr are full of puritan PCtards and porn at the same time?
[02:26:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Doublethink.
[02:26:34] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: http://i.imgur.com
[02:26:37] <Ethanol-fueled> When you induce cognitive dissonance within the individual, they cannot reconcile it and merely resing themselves to order-taking automatons.
[02:27:03] <chromas> wouldn't that be infantophile?
[02:27:24] <chromas> a pedophile is what your mom scrapes the corns off her feet with
[02:27:48] <Ethanol-fueled> The contract for joining the military by design weeds out conscientious objectors.
[02:27:54] <Ethanol-fueled> I know, I signed it.
[02:28:11] <chromas> I thought you could only be a conscientious objector during a draft
[02:28:27] <chromas> otherwise it seems like a contradiction
[02:28:51] <chromas> "I want to join the murder machine but I don't wanna touch guns with my widdle hannies"
[02:29:04] <Ethanol-fueled> There's a section that says that if you think you will be, fuck off. They say as a condition that you must be prepared to die for your country.
[02:29:31] <Ethanol-fueled> The only wiggle room in that contract is your interpretation of "All enemies, foreign and domestic"
[02:29:58] <Runaway1956> almost all democrats are enemies
[02:30:00] <Ethanol-fueled> and "obeying lawful orders"
[02:30:02] <chromas> ah, like hipsters
[02:30:08] <Runaway1956> 2/3 of all republicans are also enemies
[02:30:37] <Ethanol-fueled> There was an officer who said, Fuck Iraq war II, it's unlawful. Not a damn thing happened to him.
[02:31:58] <Subsentient> Runaway1956: Ooh! Ooh! I'm a hardcore socialist with powerful utilitiarian undertones, am I an enemy?
[02:32:32] <Runaway1956> Probably - if you have to ask, you probably are.
[02:32:43] <Runaway1956> But, socialism isn't really all that evil
[02:32:52] <chromas> Yes, but mostly because you're in cahoots with the gerbil swarm. Mostly
[02:32:59] <Subsentient> No it's not.... -The socialist in the room
[02:33:07] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't give a fuck if you're capitalist, socialist, clubbing-baby-seal-ist: if your intent is to do good for the population of the USA, I consider you a patriot and friend.
[02:34:09] <Subsentient> chromas: The only enemies of the gerbil swarm are those so wicked as to deserve a gerbilly chewy-crunchy death. Are you one of those?
[02:34:17] <Ethanol-fueled> If you're a populist, and you are all about the best interests about the LEGAL population of America above all else, then you are good. Though that means refugees and illegals can fuck off and die.
[02:35:17] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Toothpaste and orange juice don't mix. Just because toothpaste wants in the orange juice can doesn't mean it's good for its request to be granted. That said, I'm in favor of both.
[02:35:24] <Runaway1956> What refugees? I'm not seeing them. Military age males arriving in hordes is an INVASION.
[02:35:26] <Subsentient> I'm a globalist.
[02:35:31] <Subsentient> Runaway1956: +1
[02:35:57] <chromas> Subsentient: but what if I'm in with the squirrel squad or the coon corral?
[02:36:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, go move to Jeddah or, hell, Dubai and tell me you're a Globalist.
[02:36:16] <Subsentient> chromas: There is no squirrel squad. Only Gerbilius.
[02:36:23] <chromas> racis
[02:36:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Go move to Somalia and tell me you're a globalist. No borders! Open borders!
[02:36:42] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: No, what I mean is
[02:36:46] <Subsentient> right now
[02:36:51] <Subsentient> at the current state of the world
[02:36:58] <Subsentient> open borders are actively harmful
[02:37:29] <Subsentient> but I do aspire to see a unified democratic socialist government with horizontal power structures ruling over the planet.
[02:37:36] <Runaway1956> That harm is intentional though, the Powers That Be intend to break down all the world's borders
[02:37:37] <Subsentient> Rapidly rotating seats.
[02:38:08] <Subsentient> It will take many decades before the world is even remotely prepared for a benevolent Earth-wide government.
[02:38:13] <Ethanol-fueled> agreed, runaway. What is going in is arteficial and suits an agenda other than that of the general population.
[02:39:07] <Runaway1956> Little children who walked and rode trains from Argentina to the United States? Of course it's artificial.
[02:39:12] <Subsentient> We'll need a constitution as long as a novel to prevent corruption.
[02:39:19] <Runaway1956> But, fact is, few of those children were actually children.
[02:39:31] <Subsentient> And, I am totally in favor of a novel-length constitution
[02:39:41] <Runaway1956> subsentient - the longer the document, the easier it is to subvert
[02:39:54] <Ethanol-fueled> nah Subsentient, we just need to keep money out of politics and mandate punishments so strict that people will go into politics for the love of bettering their fellow man and nothing else.
[02:40:02] <Subsentient> Runaway1956: It needs to be written like code, where there is only one possible way to interpret it correctly.
[02:40:26] <Runaway1956> Politics, remember? "What is the meaning of "is"?"
[02:41:08] <Subsentient> You can't play that card in C. There's a standard document and there are conforming compilers. It's either legal or it's not.
[02:41:17] <Subsentient> We need a law-language like that.
[02:41:36] * chromas writes a non-conforming compiler
[02:41:41] * Subsentient pukes on chromas
[02:42:30] * Runaway1956 writes a low outlawing compilers
[02:42:54] <Runaway1956> So, now, I have to "interpret" the law for you - that makes me a Democrat!
[02:43:16] <chromas> or a priest
[02:43:27] <Subsentient> true
[02:43:44] <Runaway1956> Nahhhh, the Dummiecrats already wrote a law outlawing religion.
[02:43:49] * Subsentient believes in a benevolent god, everything else is debatable to him
[02:44:01] <Subsentient> Runaway1956: North Korea much?
[02:44:24] <Ethanol-fueled> The problem with C is that it's too good. Are you prepared to disassemble everything in your toolchain and audit it at the source level?
[02:44:33] <Subsentient> They kill you if you believe in God here.
[02:44:34] <Runaway1956> You got it - did you ever visit NK's original internet page?
[02:44:36] <Subsentient> there*
[02:44:45] <Subsentient> s/here./there./
[02:44:45] <sedctl> <Subsentient> tthere.
[02:44:48] <Subsentient> ...
[02:44:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Anybody who hates free speech is on my shit-list.
[02:45:04] <Subsentient> Agreed.
[02:45:05] <Runaway1956> They said that the goal of the page was to enable the people to "worship" Kim better.
[02:45:14] <Subsentient> Horse tentacle tofu mucus sandwich!
[02:45:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Free speech is timeless. The political tide is not
[02:45:29] <Subsentient> I will fight for my right to speak of horse tentacles.
[02:46:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Trump could win. And Ted Nugent could be his vice-president. Then all of the so-called "progressives" calling for restriction of speech will be up against the wall.
[02:46:40] <Subsentient> Along with anyone else Trump dislikes.
[02:46:50] <Runaway1956> Has Trump even named any possible VP's?
[02:46:52] <Ethanol-fueled> This is not rocket science. Remember the contrast in environment between Bush I / Reagan and Clintons' office terms?
[02:47:04] <Tramtrist> Runaway1956: oprah
[02:47:18] <Runaway1956> Good God - Okrah . . . .
[02:47:23] <Tramtrist> maddow did a report on it.. its one of the funiest things iv seen on tv in a long time
[02:47:25] <Subsentient> I consider myself a libertarian socialist.
[02:47:29] <Tramtrist> im not joking
[02:47:41] <Ethanol-fueled> I consider myself a NATIONAL SOCIALIST.
[02:47:45] <Tramtrist> and ted cruz has the suppoirt of a pastor who thinks oprah is the antichrist
[02:47:52] <Tramtrist> go find the rachel maddow oprah trump story
[02:47:54] <Tramtrist> worth the watch
[02:47:58] <Tramtrist> blew my mind
[02:48:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Oprah for all her faults was self-made.
[02:48:55] <Runaway1956> Pretty much all "talk show" hosts make humanity look brain dead - Okrah ranks high among them
[02:49:00] <Tramtrist> ya ya.. dont care.. the correlation between oprah, cruz, mccain, and trump was awesome
[02:49:25] <Tramtrist> content doesnt matter.. relationship was sweet.. no clue how maddow figured all that out
[02:49:35] <chromas> http://i.perezhilton.com
[02:49:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Oprah loves food. Who doesn't?
[02:50:34] <Ethanol-fueled> http://smg.photobucket.com
[02:50:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Sometimes, when women like food, they have a nice big ass.
[02:51:05] <chromas> hers gets big and small like an oscillator
[02:51:23] <Runaway1956> Side issue question: What does "self made" mean? Those people fucked themselves into existence?
[02:51:39] <chromas> yes
[02:52:06] <Runaway1956> Must be related to pan-spermic then - omni-spermic?
[02:52:19] <Ethanol-fueled> http://img.photobucket.com
[02:52:52] <Ethanol-fueled> This is what Oprah's butt does to me:
[02:52:53] <Ethanol-fueled> http://i.imgur.com
[02:53:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahahahahahaha
[02:55:06] <Runaway1956> My wife is related to Pandora - told her not to open the package, she opened it. Now, there will be years and years of corrupt politics in the United States.
[02:55:59] <Runaway1956> All she saw fall out of the package was the shiny bauble, she didn't see all the rest of the stuff flying away.
[02:56:09] <Runaway1956> *sigh*
[02:56:18] * Runaway1956 is responsible for the world's ills
[02:58:23] <Subsentient> I want to buy a cylinder of Xenon and talk like a Goa'uld.
[02:58:44] <Ethanol-fueled> In all the experiments I've performed with women over the years, only the paultards had the most self-respect and common-sense.
[02:58:56] <Subsentient> Huff a big balloon of Helium and order drive-thru.
[02:59:09] <Subsentient> But, huffing Xenon is a lot more fun.
[02:59:31] <Subsentient> Dress up like a system lord and have a couple guys in Jaffa costumes ordering fries.
[02:59:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Fucking gas-huffers. Literally the bottom barrel of dopers. You're below crokodil-shooters!
[02:59:51] <Subsentient> lol
[03:00:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Plus, if you huff, you can freeze your lungs and end up in deadly situations.
[03:00:28] <Subsentient> Well, you can just pour Xenon into a fish tank and it won't go anywhere because it's denser than air.
[03:00:31] * Runaway1956 rearranges the barrels and puts feces huffers barrel above the monkey fuckers barrel
[03:00:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Smoke some fucking weed. Really, it's not as bad as the '50's-era public service announcements tell you it is.
[03:00:37] <Subsentient> Stick your head in it and take a deep breath
[03:00:58] <Subsentient> Nah, I'd do it because I want to scare people with a really deep voice.
[03:01:12] <Subsentient> Xenon is non-toxic
[03:01:43] <Runaway1956> I tried building a xenon derigible once - never got off the ground.
[03:01:47] <Subsentient> So is sulfur hexafluoride, but it's very bad for the environment. Like 20,000x worse than CO2 if I recall
[03:01:53] <Subsentient> Runaway1956: lol
[03:01:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, work with industrial gases and flood your work area with them until you pass out. Still "toxic"?
[03:02:18] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Oxygen displacement doesn't count.
[03:02:44] <Runaway1956> oxygen displacement doesn't count, until you fall over and turn blue.
[03:03:10] <Subsentient> You'll notice something's wrong long before that, when you start sounding like Darth Vader.
[03:03:16] <Bytram> paulej72++ sysadmin par excellant
[03:03:16] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 200
[03:03:19] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm going to make it a matter of personal policy to never work in another place when gases are an issue.
[03:03:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Hydrogen Sulfide. Helium. Fluorine. Argon and Krypton. If you deal with those you can get fucked.
[03:04:16] <Subsentient> Oh yeah, Fluorine can fuck your shit up.
[03:05:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Helium rocks for chipmunk voices, but what good is it sounding like Chip and Dale as you're suffocating to death?
[03:05:54] <Runaway1956> Hello MyOpenRouter fans! This month, we not only celebrate Valentine's Day, but also OpenWRT? Why not? We love open source firmware as much as you do, and MyOpenRouter firmware expert Tathagata Das has some new ones just for the D7800 and R7500v2.
[03:05:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, if you can die having gadget blow you, it might be worth it.
[03:06:20] <Runaway1956> http://myopenrouter.com
[03:06:21] <snowfire> ^ 03MyOpenRouter | The Premier Online Community for NETGEAR's Family of Open Source Open Platform Routers
[03:06:33] <paulej72> Runaway1956: do they have built in backdoors
[03:06:49] <Runaway1956> It's open source - examine the code and see for yourself.
[03:07:18] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: THat's why you don't use it like a fucking scuba mask. Take a hit, sound like Apophis from SG1, breath quickly to get it all out.
[03:07:20] * Runaway1956 picks up router and examines it for little doors into the electronics compartment
[03:07:44] * cmn32480 hands runaway a little tiny key
[03:08:01] * Runaway1956 sticks little key into little hole
[03:08:20] * Runaway1956 hears little voice say "that's my asshole, you asshole!"
[03:08:50] <Subsentient> lol
[03:09:05] <Bytram> the comments here on gases and, especially fluorine, reminded me of Derek Lowe's "Things I won't work with" blog
[03:09:20] <Bytram> rarely updated, but every entry is a real hoot! http://blogs.sciencemag.org
[03:09:21] <snowfire> ^ 03Things I Won?t Work With: Dimethylcadmium | In the Pipeline
[03:09:22] <Subsentient> Fluorine will fuck your shit UP.
[03:09:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Defeating interlocks on a daily basis - "Things I won't work with"
[03:10:05] <Ethanol-fueled> reaching my bare hand into an ultrasonic cleaning tank - "Things I won't work with"
[03:10:17] <Bytram> https://news.encinc.com
[03:10:18] <snowfire> ^ 03Things I Won’t Touch: Hydrofluoric Acid (2004)
[03:11:15] <Subsentient> Fluorine is highly corrosive if I recall.
[03:11:30] <Runaway1956> Never worried to much about chemicals - if you pump it into the tank, I'll haul it wherever you want it.
[03:11:34] <Subsentient> And hydrofluoric acid is much worse
[03:11:58] <Subsentient> 100ppm of fluorine in your air can kill you.
[03:12:04] <Subsentient> that's PARTS PER MILLION
[03:12:17] <Bytram> FOOF! http://blogs.sciencemag.org
[03:12:18] <snowfire> ^ 03Things I Won?t Work With: Dioxygen Difluoride | In the Pipeline
[03:13:08] <Runaway1956> Dioxygen diflouride, under some conditions, will hammer your ass out through your ears.
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[03:14:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Glassdoor buried my review about the company being a safety hazard.
[03:14:17] <Runaway1956> fek, I meant one thing and typed another
[03:14:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Motherfuckers would vent fluorine onto the floor like nothing.
[03:15:09] <Runaway1956> I vent methane like it's nothing - then blame it on the young chick working one of the production machines.
[03:15:23] <Runaway1956> "Don't go by machine 21, that broad has gas bad!"
[03:15:34] <cmn32480> I blame it on the cats
[03:15:37] <Ethanol-fueled> chick, working machines. Haw haw, you're lying.
[03:15:44] <SirFinkus> morning everyone
[03:15:54] <cmn32480> ~gday SirFinkus
[03:15:56] * exec accidentally flings a cold can of toilet water at SirFinkus
[03:16:02] <Runaway1956> More than half of our machines are operated by women
[03:16:21] <SirFinkus> I was going to take a pick of that girl today Ethanol-fueled, but she was sitting down and filling the entire chair
[03:16:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Runaway, are they Asian women?
[03:16:26] <cmn32480> EF - report the fuckers to OSHA
[03:16:46] <Bytram> ^^^
[03:16:47] <SirFinkus> she's built like a bowling pin
[03:16:55] <SirFinkus> almost those exact proportions
[03:16:56] <Runaway1956> Americans mostly - black, white, hispanic - some of them might be illegals, but I can't tell them apart.
[03:16:58] <Ethanol-fueled> cmn, I think I should.
[03:17:12] <cmn32480> I think you ought to too
[03:18:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, I think so.
[03:18:32] * Bytram wishes he had even 10% of the skill in writing that Derek Lowe has: "The sulfur chemistry of FOOF remains unexplored, so if you feel like whipping up a batch of Satan’s kimchi, go right ahead."
[03:22:40] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll do it when not drinking.
[03:23:05] <cmn32480> good plan
[03:24:37] * Runaway1956 needs to dress for work . . . .
[03:24:40] <Runaway1956> work sucks
[03:25:02] <SirFinkus> luckily it's just a bowtie, a hat, and riding crop
[03:25:22] * SirFinkus has to put on pants when he goes to school
[03:27:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahah
[03:27:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck pants. Those are oppressive, and against the natural order of things.
[03:27:51] <SirFinkus> I wish kilts are acceptable in the US
[03:27:59] <SirFinkus> kilts seem like they'd be badass
[03:28:10] * Subsentient finds some refined processed sugar to cram in his face
[03:28:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Then you'd be outed as a sheep-fucker, fink.
[03:28:51] <SirFinkus> I prefer goats
[03:29:38] <chromas> You can wear a kilt. You'll make all the womens wet down there
[03:30:48] <SirFinkus> maybe if I had muscular legs
[03:31:10] <SirFinkus> weird that I don't, given that I ride a bike everywhere
[03:31:24] <SirFinkus> they just don't build muscle mass
[03:31:28] <cmn32480> nothign wrong wiht a kilt
[03:31:37] <cmn32480> it usually mens you are near beer or whiskey
[03:32:01] <SirFinkus> there's the scottish professor at our school, every time I see him he looks like he's had a rough night
[03:32:10] <SirFinkus> gonna try and get into one of his classes next quarter I think
[03:32:32] <cmn32480> speaking of no pants... WTF happend to SpallsHurgenson?
[03:32:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I probably scared him away after numerous torments.
[03:33:29] <cmn32480> chormas looked earlier... haven't seen him in about 3 weeks
[03:33:32] <Ethanol-fueled> or, if he was Sweedish, he was PREPPING THE BULL Bahahahahahahahahha
[03:33:55] <SirFinkus> Idk, spalls and I engage in homophobic banter all the time, never seemed to bother him
[03:34:15] <SirFinkus> he's on steam right now, want me to ping him?
[03:34:39] <cmn32480> if he's on steam.. he prolly ain't dead
[03:34:56] * cmn32480 goes in search of food
[03:35:12] <SirFinkus> I'll tell him we're discussing the relative merits of pants and kilts
[03:36:14] <paulej72> denim kilt
[03:36:28] <paulej72> best of both worlds
[03:36:29] <SirFinkus> that's called a skirt
[03:36:48] <SirFinkus> a kilt needs to be plaid and you need that metal thing that rests on your junk
[03:37:30] <paulej72> sproan
[03:37:40] <paulej72> sporan
[03:37:50] <SirFinkus> yeah, I don't think I could pull off a kilt
[03:38:18] <paulej72> I wore a kilt. I was in the Kiltie Band at CMU
[03:38:33] <SirFinkus> I'd end up looking like this
[03:38:34] <SirFinkus> http://www.kinlochanderson.com
[03:38:36] <Runaway1956> SirFinkus - you don't NEED to pull off a kilt to tend to business
[03:38:38] <SirFinkus> like when I wear a suit
[03:38:45] <paulej72> We marched at the home football games and one away game.
[03:39:02] <SirFinkus> haha, I get it
[03:39:13] <SirFinkus> it keeps you warm when you go at the sheep
[03:39:23] <SirFinkus> with pants, your ass gets cold
[03:39:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Scotsmen don't wear undies
[03:39:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Inland Fisheries Determined to Surface As Food Powerhouse - http://sylnt.us - gone-fishing
[03:39:50] <cmn32480> you get used to that feeling in the kilt
[03:39:57] <SirFinkus> I suspect the sporan is to hide embarrasing erections
[03:40:01] <cmn32480> it becomes quite comfortable
[03:40:08] <cmn32480> and hold yer wallet
[03:40:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Especially when you're biting a nippel
[03:40:17] <Ethanol-fueled> YARRRRRRRR
[03:40:18] <Ethanol-fueled> http://i.imgur.com
[03:41:01] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[03:41:46] <SirFinkus> I think you should file the OSHA report drunk Ethanol-fueled, it'd give some guy with a boring job something funny to read
[03:42:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, I have to wait till sober.
[03:42:48] <Ethanol-fueled> CAL OSHA won;t give a shit, but the report will be disbursed to others who will.
[03:43:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Besides, anybody who does read the reviews and still wants to work there is either a masochist or somebody who wants to sucker Goys with a fat salary for a couple months. They DO pay well.
[03:43:53] <Ethanol-fueled> and for good reason.
[03:45:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Look at the Glassdoor reports which were published. All of the ones which weren't obviously shills said the same things. "collect your sheckels until you bail" "assholes" :"cheapskates"
[03:45:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Working for that place was like being in the movie "They Live"
[03:47:02] <Bytram> ~time x
[03:47:04] <exec> Friday, 12 February 2016 @ 3:47 am UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[03:47:05] <Bytram> ~time boston
[03:47:07] <exec> Thursday, 11 February 2016 @ 10:47 pm EST - Boston, MA, USA
[03:47:17] <Ethanol-fueled> The head of safety holds a meeting with all new recruits and says, "I don;t know how they get away witth that but I wanna keep my job so I don't ask"
[03:47:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Meh, Fuck 'em.
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[03:49:47] <SirFinkus> I hate being put in that kind of position
[03:50:12] <paulej72> what whit your back to Ethanol-fueled
[03:50:15] <chromas> You should go work there again and sneak in a camera
[03:50:17] <SirFinkus> where something is clearly unsafe or illegal, but you risk losing your income if you bitch
[03:50:30] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm not there anymore, so it;s time to inflict maximum damage. But nothing will happen regardless, because they're so fixed into the local community.
[03:50:50] <Ethanol-fueled> They're a lucrative make-work program for UCSD grads.
[03:50:59] <SirFinkus> sounds like boeing
[03:51:02] <chromas> ooh
[03:51:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Throw a fuckton of money at charity.
[03:51:06] <SirFinkus> they got the state in their pocket
[03:51:08] <Ethanol-fueled> They're untouchable.
[03:51:15] <paulej72> someone needs to hire the basket weavers
[03:51:17] <chromas> maybe you can help fasttrack college PC-police into jerbs there
[03:51:18] <SirFinkus> every time they don't get their way, they threaten to move to another state
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[03:52:34] <cmn32480> paulej72++
[03:52:34] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 201
[03:53:05] <SirFinkus> I'm actually pretty proud of boeing, and I know several people who work there, but I hate their manipulative legislative bullshit
[03:53:16] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, they only hire STEM - even for their non-stem positions. How do you weasel around that?
[03:53:27] <chromas> Lie. Duh
[03:53:37] <paulej72> well I doing the bed thing now. Good night all
[03:53:44] <SirFinkus> expand the definition of stem to include women's studies and journalism
[03:53:49] <chromas> g'night sir
[03:54:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, I worked for BAE and Teledyne, I know the feels. They're assholes but treat their employees well.
[03:54:02] <cmn32480> ~gnihght paulej72
[03:54:02] <chromas> Yeah, what're you? racist and misogynist?
[03:54:06] <cmn32480> ~gnight paulej72
[03:54:07] <SirFinkus> and include feminist science
[03:54:09] * exec allegedly throws a buzz saw of broiled hog anus at paulej72
[03:54:16] <SirFinkus> Teledyne is a badass company name
[03:54:26] <SirFinkus> not at neat as rocketdyne, but close
[03:54:30] * cmn32480 giggles at broiled hog anus
[03:54:35] <cmn32480> Cyberdyne is the best
[03:54:40] <chromas> turbodyne
[03:54:44] <SirFinkus> night chromas
[03:54:56] <chromas> I'm not sleeping; pj is
[03:54:57] <Ethanol-fueled> You can't slip SJW bullshit into the military industrial complex....unless you have HR certs...which means you're evil.
[03:55:03] <SirFinkus> oh
[03:55:25] <SirFinkus> don't women have lower PT standards in the military?
[03:55:25] <cmn32480> Cyberdine Systems? They will develop Skynet in a couple years
[03:55:25] <chromas> sounds like that's the place to work then
[03:55:30] <SirFinkus> that's SJW bullshit
[03:55:34] <Ethanol-fueled> and if you managed to sneak through and aren't evil, they discover you. They say that you're too "employee-centric" and force you out.
[03:55:49] <Ethanol-fueled> I've seen it.
[03:56:37] <cmn32480> I'm gaining on you SirFinkus@
[03:56:49] <chromas> oh shit, SirFinkus is about to surpass me
[03:57:14] * cmn32480 watches chormas abscond with monopoly's points
[03:57:18] <SirFinkus> I still need to add my c2duo
[03:57:30] <SirFinkus> for that BLISTERING SPEED
[03:57:51] * Ethanol-fueled stops discussing real life and watches gay sex unfold before his eyes
[03:58:14] <SirFinkus> haha, unfold, I get it
[03:58:26] <SirFinkus> you should join our botnet Ethanol-fueled
[03:58:27] <cmn32480> chromas - at full bore, the R710 nets about 20,000ppd
[03:58:40] <SirFinkus> http://fah-web2.stanford.edu
[03:58:41] <snowfire> ^ 03Team 10's contributions to Folding@home ( http://fah-web2.stanford.edu )
[03:58:42] <chromas> I set all my names back to me to maximize the minutes before cmn32480 passes me
[03:58:46] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm not into crime.
[03:59:18] <SirFinkus> I've got a 4890 on that machine that might be able to contribute some flops
[03:59:18] <chromas> I'm only getting 18156 and turning on the gpu on the windows box actually dropped it
[03:59:22] <cmn32480> ooo my next one finishes in 9 min
[03:59:26] <chromas> then turning it off dropped it some more. fpos
[03:59:32] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[03:59:33] <snowfire> ^ 03COPS Cartoon Intro - YouTube
[03:59:36] <cmn32480> credit: 5899ptsd
[03:59:56] <SirFinkus> chromas usually you want to do either cpu or gpu, not both on the same machine
[04:00:01] <SirFinkus> whatever gets you more ppd
[04:00:24] <SirFinkus> which could be CPU because some projects don't work very well on the GPU
[04:01:03] <cmn32480> heh... I am all CPU... Dual Xeon E5540 @ 2.53GHz
[04:01:04] <chromas> well it's keeping all my shat pinned, so I don't think it could og any faster
[04:01:23] <cmn32480> I read the doc
[04:01:23] <chromas> though the gpu is running two displays so that probably shits it up a bit
[04:01:27] <cmn32480> light is 50%
[04:01:32] <cmn32480> medium is 80%
[04:01:40] <cmn32480> Full is 100%
[04:03:59] <chromas> hm, gpu has more estimated ppd, but I don't know what base credit and stuff are
[04:04:05] <chromas> probably should rtfdocs
[04:04:53] <Ethanol-fueled> NIGGERS.
[04:05:07] <chromas> you rang?
[04:07:02] * Ethanol-fueled backflips into a fart
[04:07:27] <Ethanol-fueled> All you understand is the fist, fucks. THE FIST
[04:07:41] <Ethanol-fueled> .kick Ethanol-fueled
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[04:25:08] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[04:25:10] * exec abrasively drops a wad of spew on #soylent
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[04:30:12] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHHAHA
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[05:50:50] <takyon> https://archive.org
[05:50:51] <snowfire> ^ 03JezzBall : Free Download Streaming : Internet Archive
[05:51:01] <takyon> the first game I check out, and is very laggy
[05:52:13] <takyon> incredible machine, now we're talking: https://archive.org
[05:52:14] <snowfire> ^ 03The Even More! Incredible Machine : Free Download Streaming : Internet Archive
[05:53:36] <SirFinkus> no chip's challenge though, which was the best game in the Microsoft Entertainment Pack
[05:53:51] <SirFinkus> I just bought it on steam because it was 99 cents
[05:54:01] <SirFinkus> and chips challenge 2 because both were only 2:50
[05:54:04] <SirFinkus> 2.50
[05:55:15] <takyon> does the steam version have the original 2 MIDI music files?
[05:57:37] <takyon> it does not want to load The Incredible Machine
[05:58:50] <SirFinkus> not sure, I'd have to boot into windows to be sure
[05:59:06] <SirFinkus> probably pretty easy to slap them in there though
[06:00:15] <takyon> I wonder if they have the oil pipe game
[06:01:02] <Gravis> SirFinkus: they're coming for your guns!
[06:01:14] <SirFinkus> yup
[06:01:19] <SirFinkus> sup Gravis
[06:01:37] <SirFinkus> cold dead hands etc
[06:01:47] <Gravis> nope, just dead
[06:02:09] <SirFinkus> GET YOUR HANDS OFF ME YOU DAMNED DIRTY APE
[06:02:12] <SirFinkus> wait, wrong thing
[06:02:37] <Gravis> we'll just drone strike you.
[06:03:31] <takyon> hmm I hope these are actually working
[06:04:07] <SirFinkus> luckily I'm located in the Forbidden Zone deep underground
[06:04:22] <Gravis> bunker busters it is
[06:04:33] <SirFinkus> and we have a nuclear weapon we worship
[06:04:47] <SirFinkus> and telepathy
[06:04:48] <takyon> https://archive.org
[06:04:48] <snowfire> ^ 03FreeCell Plus : Free Download Streaming : Internet Archive
[06:04:58] <Gravis> that's ok, you'll be burried there with it
[06:05:00] <takyon> this works. painfully slow, but not as bad as games played in real time
[06:05:15] <SirFinkus> not if Taylor activates it
[06:05:35] <takyon> omg, they have Pipe Dream
[06:06:11] <Gravis> takyon: ain't abandonware great? :)
[06:06:53] * SirFinkus is trying Solitaire xxx
[06:07:46] <takyon> Internet Archive's partial DMCA exemptions are a beautiful thing
[06:07:59] <SirFinkus> well, idk what I expected
[06:08:15] <SirFinkus> it's solitaire with kama sutra illustrations on the cards
[06:08:27] <Gravis> boobs, you expected boobs.
[06:08:34] <SirFinkus> and I got boobs
[06:08:51] <SirFinkus> and german error messages
[06:09:08] <takyon> https://archive.org
[06:09:09] <snowfire> ^ 03Pipe Dream : Free Download Streaming : Internet Archive
[06:09:19] <takyon> this may be the most fun game yet and it plays pretty smoothly
[06:09:48] <takyon> I died because I thought the current pieces were on the top and not the bottom
[06:12:56] * SirFinkus now wants to watch logan's run
[06:13:07] <takyon> http://puu.sh
[06:13:10] <takyon> yeah this game is fun as fuck
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[06:17:19] <takyon> Pipe Dream validates the whole concept
[06:17:33] <takyon> because it is included and works, I will look through the rest
[06:20:40] <SirFinkus> who knew chips challenge was on steam though? I wonder if I remember how to solve all the puzzles
[06:20:41] <SirFinkus> BUMMER
[06:22:02] <takyon> *mmph*
[06:22:12] <takyon> i have some of those puzzles memorized
[06:22:18] <takyon> they might have a different puzzle set though
[06:22:30] <SirFinkus> southpole is easy to remmeber
[06:24:16] <SirFinkus> looks like the puzzles are the same, but graphics are changed a bit
[06:24:38] <takyon> they have Man Hunt. I think I've heard of that one
[06:24:45] <takyon> overall these Windows games are very obscure
[06:25:15] <SirFinkus> oooh, animations
[06:25:21] <takyon> also it's listed in semi-alphabetic order, so I keep going through the alphabet multiple times
[06:25:24] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[06:25:24] <snowfire> ^ 03Nerd³ FW - Chip's Challenge - YouTube
[06:26:23] <takyon> ouch
[06:26:24] <takyon> my ears
[06:26:44] <SirFinkus> yeah, I know
[06:26:51] <SirFinkus> I remember the 34rd level pretty well
[06:28:24] <takyon> they have a windows 3.1 program that just draws the Sierpinski triangle from what I can tell
[06:30:29] <SirFinkus> level 7 too
[06:32:02] <Deucalion> I have come to the conclusion I suck at XCOM: EW.
[06:32:09] <takyon> Duck Hunt is a pile of lag
[06:33:42] <takyon> finally got to the end. lot of dupes and not very many great games
[06:33:47] <takyon> Pipe Dream is by far the winner
[06:34:10] <Deucalion> Bastard chrysalids bursting out of a dead whale inside a boat at 3 per turn is no fun in a confined space. Hmmph, need to rethink my tactics on this on.
[06:35:04] <takyon> the DOS collection may be a lot better
[06:35:07] <takyon> let's see how https://archive.org plays
[06:35:08] <snowfire> ^ 03Commander Keen: Goodbye Galaxy! : id Software : Free Download Streaming : Internet Archive
[06:35:54] <takyon> slow but not horrific
[06:36:29] <takyon> sound works just fine, other than being a little laggy
[06:38:18] <takyon> only real Keen fans know about the secret in the first level
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[06:43:00] <crutchy> ~weather south pole
[06:43:01] <exec> south pole temp: -49 °F
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[07:44:46] <SirFinkus> well, I know who I'd vote for https://www.youtube.com
[07:44:47] <snowfire> ^ 03Vermin Supreme: When I'm President Everyone Gets A Free Pony - YouTube
[07:52:11] <SirFinkus> "He was, however, not invited to return to the Lesser-Known Democratic Candidates Presidential Forum, due in part to glitterbombing Randall Terry at the event in 2011."
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[09:55:32] <crutchy> "there were more millionaires created during the great depression than any other period in u.s. history" - some youtube video
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[10:55:52] <qkontinuum> coffee++
[10:55:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2201
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[11:11:50] <Alberto> Sup
[11:11:57] <Alberto> Anyone is using Puppet or Chef?
[11:12:01] <Alberto> o/
[11:19:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:19:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2202
[11:19:48] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard!
[11:19:50] <Alberto> bacon++
[11:19:50] <Bender> karma - bacon: 308
[11:20:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> /agree
[11:20:09] <Alberto> how are you
[11:20:18] <Alberto> do you use puppet or soemthing like that?
[11:21:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> whassa puppet?
[11:21:27] <Alberto> puppet for automation
[11:21:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> cron and perl scripts
[11:21:47] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, https://puppetlabs.com
[11:21:48] <snowfire> ^ 03What is Puppet? | Puppet Labs
[11:21:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> or bash scripts
[11:22:39] <Alberto> but for not "much" machines right?
[11:22:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, no, i don't generally work in shops big enough to need that.
[11:23:26] <Alberto> i found some kind of issue
[11:23:31] <Alberto> with that automation tools
[11:23:39] <Alberto> there is no extra security layer
[11:23:43] <Alberto> you hacka master
[11:23:48] <Alberto> and the whole structure goes down
[11:23:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> not surprising. try to do too much and you introduce all kinds of bugs.
[11:24:07] <Alberto> i wanted to add some kind of security
[11:24:10] <Alberto> and they laugh
[11:24:17] <Alberto> "not puppet thing to do" :P
[11:24:39] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[11:24:43] <Alberto> but i may implement that anyways
[11:24:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[11:24:51] <Alberto> some kind of two factor auth
[11:24:58] <Alberto> or two sys-admins to agree
[11:25:10] <Alberto> on if some kind of X package can be or not upgraded or action performed
[11:25:27] <Alberto> you can use git and stuff, still a slave will always install what you want
[11:25:32] <Alberto> wich isn't good enough for me
[11:25:50] <Alberto> imagine, 100 nodes 1 master
[11:25:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> slaves are supposed to always do what you tell them
[11:25:59] <Alberto> and someone hack the master and re enables my ssh
[11:26:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> even if you screw up
[11:26:20] <Alberto> yep but what if the slave check if a package needs two masters to agree on the update
[11:26:27] <Alberto> "critical updates" or "actions"
[11:26:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> more secure but much harder to manage
[11:26:51] <Alberto> why?
[11:27:05] <Alberto> slaves will check for some extra action before perform the main action
[11:27:07] <Alberto> only that
[11:27:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> means i as an admin have to monkey with two masters instead of one
[11:28:06] <Alberto> can be two persons
[11:28:08] <Alberto> you and your college
[11:28:12] <Alberto> or two clicks
[11:28:17] <Alberto> call it whatever you want
[11:28:38] <Alberto> but for example, to re enable ssh i may want to click twice like a "are you sure"
[11:28:47] <Alberto> and the second click has to come from another place :P
[11:28:52] <Alberto> or something like that
[11:28:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> up to you i suppose
[11:29:02] <Alberto> exactly
[11:29:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd rather just secure the master properly
[11:29:21] <Alberto> still
[11:29:26] <Alberto> too much power for 1 master
[11:29:35] <Alberto> One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
[11:29:44] <Alberto> :>
[11:30:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> it complains too much, precious. we should eats its eyeses.
[11:30:36] <Alberto> hahaha
[11:31:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, i needa read those again.
[11:31:43] <Alberto> i will sit with coffee and see how this iot and devops falls
[11:32:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> devops works good for small shops. poorly for large ones.
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[11:33:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, i need to edit the api docs on the wiki
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[11:33:37] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, if you had puppet and git that will be automated
[11:33:38] <Alberto> LOL
[11:36:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh, bloody wiki won't let me log in
[11:36:54] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, told ya
[11:37:03] <Alberto> :P
[11:37:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should just edit it from the database
[11:37:53] <Alberto> hahahaha
[11:51:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> there, all fixed
[11:53:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll work on the xmpp server some more today.
[11:54:50] <Alberto> xmpp server for what?
[11:55:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> SN
[11:55:58] <Alberto> i mean what will be the use
[11:56:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> subscriber perk maybe, dunno.
[11:58:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> thinking about creating accounts for every user account. also pondering not creating accounts unless the user requests it so they can pick their own blah@soylentnews.org handle.
[11:59:15] <Alberto> or you can use use xmmp`for everything :P
[11:59:24] <Alberto> xmpp*
[12:00:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah. it's going to be its own thing. separate from the site except for only registered users can use it.
[12:00:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> may have it tie into yahoo chat and a couple other of the larger xmpp providers as well.
[12:00:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> google keeps saying they're going to disable xmpp but they haven't yet.
[12:01:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> afk, nicotine
[12:02:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[12:02:01] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 22
[12:02:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:02:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2203
[12:02:10] <Alberto> nicotine++
[12:02:10] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 23
[12:02:14] <Alberto> coffee++
[12:02:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2204
[12:02:16] <Alberto> mate++
[12:02:16] <Bender> karma - mate: 9
[12:02:26] * Alberto drinks mate
[12:04:32] <qkontinuum> TheMightyBuzzard, optional I could understand, but the user-handle I'd prefer to be the same as for the account. There might be a risk of people intentionally taking handles of other users otherwise. (Ok, could be prevented by a separate check, but in that case you might have to reverse-check when someone creates a new SN account if his handle was registered beforehand for someone in xmpp)
[12:04:44] <qkontinuum> coffee++
[12:04:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2205
[12:09:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> qkontinuum, yeah, good point
[12:10:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> prollem is you can't have user handles with spaces in xmpp
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[12:14:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> poor qkontinuum
[12:16:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sundance's VR Films Fail by Passing the Workload Buck to Their Viewers - http://sylnt.us - what-not-to-do
[12:16:48] <qkontinuum> TheMightyBuzzard, I think we had that discussion: disconnects when switching from lan to wifi... Hate it... I need to check if I can convince Linux to keep wifi even though connected to lan, and to keep active connections on the same device
[12:17:29] <qkontinuum> Just caught up via http://logs.sylnt.us yes, spaces might be a problem
[12:17:30] <snowfire> ^ 03#Soylent | Logs for 2016-02-12
[12:17:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should be able to
[12:19:04] <Alberto> i use wifi and eth
[12:19:06] <Alberto> bond connection
[12:19:10] <Alberto> never dced
[12:23:20] <qkontinuum> Thanks, will look into it.
[12:23:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just set both up as fixed connections with static ip addresses. i don't really care which decides to be the default route as long as it doesn't change on me.
[12:24:04] <Alberto> qkontinuum, http://www.lemmster.de
[12:24:05] <snowfire> ^ 03Network bonding (wlan eth) on linux ubuntu - l e m m s t e r . d e
[12:40:55] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:40:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2206
[12:41:13] * cmn32480 sits grumpily in his chair at the office
[12:42:04] * Alberto offers coffee++ to cmn32480
[12:42:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, grumpycat
[12:42:13] <cmn32480> ~fight
[12:42:14] <exec> oi! why don't ya choke on some pig vomit, ya vagina!
[12:42:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[12:42:24] <MrPlow> Today: Some clouds this morning will give way to generally sunny skies for the afternoon. High 47F. Winds NNW at 10 to 15 mph. Tomorrow: Sunny. High 33F. Winds NNE at 10 to 15 mph.
[12:42:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh
[12:42:35] <cmn32480> it's tgonan be a long hard day TMB
[12:42:37] <Alberto> #weather
[12:42:37] <MrPlow> Syntax: #weather City, ST or #weather zip code
[12:42:46] <Alberto> #weather San Cristobal de las Casas
[12:42:46] <MrPlow> Syntax: #weather City, ST or #weather zip code
[12:42:53] <Alberto> #weather San Cristobal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico
[12:42:53] <MrPlow> Today: Tomorrow:
[12:42:59] <cmn32480> alberto - try ~weather <location>
[12:42:59] <Alberto> segmentation faul
[12:43:07] <Alberto> ~weather San Cristobal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico
[12:43:09] <exec> 10San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chis., Mexico - currently 41°F / 5°C, clear, wind E at 2 mph, humidity 100% - Friday mostly sunny (47°F:66°F / 8°C:19°C), Saturday scattered showers (44°F:65°F / 7°C:18°C), Sunday partly cloudy (48°F:71°F / 9°C:22°C), Monday sunny (49°F:74°F / 9°C:23°C)
[12:43:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather San Cristobal de las Casas, mexico
[12:43:15] <MrPlow> Today: Sunshine and a few afternoon clouds. High 66F. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph. Tomorrow: Chance of a shower or two during the morning, followed by partly cloudy skies in the afternoon. High around 65F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
[12:43:39] <Alberto> its like 3 degrees here
[12:43:47] <cmn32480> ~weather
[12:43:49] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 17°F / -8°C, mostly sunny, wind SW at 0 mph, humidity 55% - Friday mostly cloudy (18°F:32°F / -8°C:0°C), Saturday cloudy (10°F:20°F / -12°C:-7°C), Sunday mostly sunny (16°F:24°F / -9°C:-4°C), Monday snow (32°F:33°F / 0°C:1°C)
[12:43:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> real degrees or C?
[12:44:08] <cmn32480> it's like -8 here... and MIGHT get to 0 today
[12:44:17] <Alberto> real
[12:44:41] <cmn32480> yeah
[12:44:49] <cmn32480> if feels colder when the wind blows
[12:44:58] <Alberto> i live on a mountain
[12:45:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather 74872
[12:45:02] <MrPlow> Today: Plentiful sunshine. High 63F. Winds NNE at 10 to 15 mph. Tomorrow: A mainly sunny sky. High near 55F. Winds ESE at 10 to 15 mph.
[12:45:06] <Alberto> 2500 meters over the sea level
[12:45:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> bastards
[12:45:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> sposed to be warmer here than in oklahoma
[12:45:28] <Alberto> in the middle of a jungle!
[12:45:30] <cmn32480> I live about 25 feet above sea level
[12:45:59] <cmn32480> then the best advice I can give... don't go outside!
[12:46:07] <Alberto> i like the jungle
[12:46:19] <Alberto> great place to "hide" a few exgf's
[12:46:20] <Alberto> :P
[12:46:24] <Alberto> crocodriles
[12:46:26] <Alberto> lot of canions
[12:46:28] <Alberto> lol
[12:46:34] <cmn32480> I'll pass
[12:46:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i spose you could hide an ex gf in a crocodile.
[12:47:02] <cmn32480> i like my land crocodile free, thankyouverymuch
[12:47:08] <Alberto> pussycat
[12:47:13] <Alberto> :>
[12:47:15] <cmn32480> she'd come out the other end eventually
[12:47:28] <cmn32480> ~meow
[12:47:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, stay away from the FL/GA/SC area then.
[12:47:45] <Alberto> fl is florida right?
[12:47:46] <cmn32480> i try to do that anyway TheMightyBuzzard
[12:47:48] <Alberto> and the other two?
[12:47:50] <cmn32480> correct
[12:47:56] <cmn32480> Georgia
[12:47:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> georgia and south carolina
[12:48:00] <cmn32480> South Carolina
[12:48:02] <Alberto> i prefer nature
[12:48:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1/2 ninja'd
[12:48:13] <Alberto> i like animals more than humans
[12:48:27] <cmn32480> I like nature jsut fine... I jsut prefer mine w/o crocodiles running loose
[12:48:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, animals only fuck with you if you look like dinner.
[12:48:30] <Alberto> i prefer a snake, a crocodile
[12:48:45] <Alberto> no need here, plenty of food for everyone
[12:48:51] <Alberto> and people respect nature
[12:48:58] <Alberto> i live a few years on brasil
[12:49:02] <Alberto> amazon side
[12:49:06] <Alberto> best place in the world
[12:49:10] <Alberto> but damn, mosquitos
[12:49:13] <Alberto> i fking hate them
[12:49:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> i respect nature. i just prefer it be a little way away from me.
[12:49:22] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, hahahahhaa
[12:49:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dig having good internet speeds slightly more than i dig going fishing.
[12:50:02] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, https://www.google.com.mx check that
[12:50:03] <snowfire> ^ 03selva chiapaneca - Buscar con Google ( https://www.google.com.mx )
[12:50:21] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, i prefer good speed too
[12:50:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> good fishing in the river?
[12:50:35] <Alberto> but i'm tired of the "big city" and their issues
[12:50:41] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, not so much
[12:50:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> bummer
[12:50:49] <Alberto> lot of crocodile
[12:50:54] <Alberto> and "peje lagarto"
[12:51:03] <Alberto> is a fish but like a crocodile
[12:51:27] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, http://www.abc.es
[12:52:02] <cmn32480> so no dipping your toes in the river and coming home with them..
[12:52:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> alligator gar: http://www.gofishing.co.uk's%20gar.jpg
[12:52:19] <Alberto> cmn32480, http://2.bp.blogspot.com i prefer the indian girls from here
[12:52:45] <cmn32480> I can understand why
[12:52:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> we have those around here. they don't bother people though.
[12:53:03] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, http://3.bp.blogspot.com native girls are "friendly"
[12:53:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> she does indeed look friendly
[12:53:33] <cmn32480> that your Gar buzzard?
[12:53:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just a random google find.
[12:54:03] <Alberto> "pejelagarto"
[12:54:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't use steel leaders cause i don't want to catch gar. too bony.
[12:54:06] <cmn32480> mental note.. don't stick your fingers in to retrieve the hook
[12:54:08] <Alberto> thats the keyword
[12:54:14] <Alberto> some ancient fish wich didn't evolve
[12:54:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:54:21] <Alberto> like my sister
[12:55:05] <Alberto> now i want to play with that indian girl
[12:55:07] <Alberto> geez
[12:55:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[12:55:14] <snowfire> ^ 03Speedy Gonzales Is Freinds With Everybody's Sister - YouTube
[12:56:06] <Alberto> lol
[12:57:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> bout to have to get off my ass and cook a bunch of breakfast for the roomie's kids soon.
[12:57:42] <Alberto> call mcdonals :P
[12:58:00] <cmn32480> 8am... time to do actual paid work... <sigh>
[12:58:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, birthday morning. pancakes and eggs and sausage and such.
[12:58:55] <Alberto> i want to use something like puppet
[12:59:00] <Alberto> but small, still must scale
[12:59:12] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, i was thinking on expect and perl & bash for that
[12:59:49] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[13:00:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, you can always script an rsync easily enough.
[13:00:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's what we use for the two SN webservers
[13:01:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine time again.
[13:01:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[13:01:13] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 24
[13:01:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:01:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2207
[13:04:54] <Alberto> is recommended to use Alberto ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL on sudoers for a production server?
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[13:08:03] <cmn32480> chromas - on full the R710 will give me about 25k ppd
[13:08:43] <cmn32480> and I note that you inflated your score overnight
[13:09:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> Alberto, of course. passwords are for wimps
[13:11:43] <Alberto> i mean is a recommended practice or not jokes aside :P
[13:12:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, in that case HELL NO
[13:12:45] <Alberto> better authorized keys with ssh then
[13:13:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, even with solid ssh keys you need to require a password for sudo-ing.
[13:14:10] <Alberto> how puppet does
[13:14:12] <Alberto> the same way
[13:14:15] <Alberto> but they use a daemon
[13:14:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you really need nopasswd for a command, give it only to that command
[13:15:11] <Alberto> or maybe auth key for root :P
[13:15:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://askubuntu.com
[13:15:38] <snowfire> ^ 03How do I run specific sudo commands without a password? - Ask Ubuntu
[13:16:40] <Alberto> i want something like puppet but "small"
[13:16:43] <Alberto> too big
[13:16:49] <Alberto> i will figure how :P
[13:17:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> however you do it, do not do it by giving any account carte blanche to execute any command as root. that is an enormous security hole.
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[13:20:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> qkontinuum, get your interfaces all bonded?
[13:22:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.psychologytoday.com
[13:22:30] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[13:23:00] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[13:23:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, going to have to write that one myself.
[13:26:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> gonna get some vidya in before cooking time. laters.
[13:36:36] <Alberto> https://archive.org never saw that before
[13:36:37] <snowfire> ^ 03The Malware Museum : Free Software : Download Streaming : Internet Archive
[13:47:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Internet Bundle is already here ...and it's a Bot - http://sylnt.us - TOP-to-BOTtom
[13:54:53] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, found something smaller and better than puppet, check this one https://www.saltstack.com & https://docs.saltstack.com
[13:54:57] <snowfire> ^ 03SaltStack automation for CloudOps, ITOps DevOps at scale ( https://saltstack.com )
[13:54:57] <snowfire> ^ 03Full list of builtin execution modules
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[13:55:27] <Bytram> !uid
[13:55:28] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6113, owned by PBear
[13:55:30] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:55:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2208
[13:55:36] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[13:55:38] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 10°F, mostly sunny, wind W at 10 mph, humidity 51% - Friday partly cloudy (13°F:25°F), Saturday partly cloudy (-5°F:18°F), Sunday partly cloudy (-2°F:14°F), Monday snow showers (27°F:31°F)
[13:55:39] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[13:55:43] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[13:55:44] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently -2°F, mostly sunny, wind W at 3 mph, humidity 72% - Friday partly cloudy (-5°F:9°F), Saturday cloudy (-9°F:17°F), Sunday partly cloudy (-13°F:6°F), Monday mostly sunny (6°F:17°F)
[13:55:46] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 0°F, mostly sunny, wind W at 6 mph, humidity 63% - Friday mostly sunny (12°F:23°F), Saturday cloudy (-3°F:21°F), Sunday partly cloudy (-4°F:15°F), Monday partly cloudy (23°F:27°F)
[13:55:58] <Bytram> brrrrrr!
[13:56:16] <cmn32480> yep
[13:56:55] <Bytram> I guess it is time for me to put away the shorts
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[14:04:34] <Tramtrist> ~weather detroit
[14:04:36] <exec> 10Detroit, MI, USA - currently 17°F / -8°C, cloudy, wind SW at 12 mph, humidity 65% - Friday snow showers (4°F:26°F / -16°C:-3°C), Saturday cloudy (6°F:15°F / -14°C:-9°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (16°F:18°F / -9°C:-8°C), Monday cloudy (24°F:37°F / -4°C:3°C)
[14:04:40] <Tramtrist> nice
[14:04:48] <Tramtrist> ~weather nagoya
[14:04:50] <exec> 10Nagoya, Aichi Prefecture, Japan - currently 46°F / 8°C, cloudy, wind NE at 2 mph, humidity 94% - Friday cloudy (39°F:52°F / 4°C:11°C), Saturday cloudy with brief rain later (48°F:63°F / 9°C:17°C), Sunday rain later becoming cloudy (54°F:68°F / 12°C:20°C), Monday cloudy periodically clear (37°F:50°F / 3°C:10°C)
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[14:14:03] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, SaltStack you will like it
[14:19:42] <Bytram> ~weather McMurdo
[14:19:45] <exec> 10McMurdo, Antarctica - currently 11°F, partly cloudy, wind E at 11 mph, humidity 75% - Saturday partly cloudy (8°F:18°F), Sunday partly cloudy (12°F:21°F), Monday mostly sunny (7°F:17°F), Tuesday sunny (6°F:18°F)
[14:20:27] <Bytram> ~weather death valley
[14:20:29] <exec> 10Death Valley - currently 49°F, clear with periodic clouds, wind NE at 3 mph, humidity 38% - Friday partly cloudy (47°F:85°F), Saturday partly cloudy (49°F:86°F), Sunday mostly sunny (52°F:87°F), Monday sunny (52°F:87°F)
[14:21:01] <Bytram> well, that's quite the temperature swing!
[14:21:05] <Bytram> ~weather miami
[14:21:07] <exec> 10Miami, FL, USA - currently 64°F, mostly sunny, wind NW at 3 mph, humidity 54% - Friday mostly sunny (56°F:75°F), Saturday sunny (58°F:76°F), Sunday cloudy (64°F:71°F), Monday mostly cloudy (68°F:76°F)
[14:21:16] <Bytram> ~weather tampa
[14:21:18] <exec> 10Tampa, FL, USA - currently 59°F, mostly sunny, wind S at 6 mph, humidity 87% - Friday sunny (56°F:72°F), Saturday sunny (42°F:67°F), Sunday mostly sunny (53°F:71°F), Monday mostly cloudy (61°F:77°F)
[14:21:28] <Bytram> ~weather houston
[14:21:30] <exec> 10Houston, TX, USA - currently 54°F, fog, wind SW at 0 mph, humidity 100% - Friday partly cloudy (55°F:81°F), Saturday mostly cloudy (55°F:64°F), Sunday cloudy (61°F:76°F), Monday partly cloudy (48°F:74°F)
[14:24:44] <Gravis> ~weather hell
[14:24:46] <exec> 10Washington, DC, USA - currently 23°F / -5°C, mostly cloudy, wind S at 3 mph, humidity 44% - Friday mostly cloudy (18°F:33°F / -8°C:1°C), Saturday cloudy (10°F:21°F / -12°C:-6°C), Sunday mostly sunny (16°F:26°F / -9°C:-3°C), Monday snow with brief sleet (31°F:33°F / -1°C:1°C)
[14:25:09] <Gravis> i do enjoy the alias :)
[14:25:24] <Gravis> and it's damn cold. :(
[14:25:37] <Bytram> snowball fight?
[14:25:39] <Bytram> ;)
[14:27:57] <Gravis> snow is all but gone
[14:28:10] <Bytram> we've got plenty!
[14:31:23] <Gravis> the good news is i came up with a way to make delta robots with higher speed, higher precision and lower cost
[14:32:13] <Gravis> instead of stepper motors, use direct drive voice coils
[14:32:20] <Gravis> it's so simple, right?
[14:33:10] <Gravis> it's the same tech that HDDs use for the read/write arm
[14:33:18] <Bytram> sounds good... but what is a 'delta robot' ??
[14:35:00] <Gravis> https://www.google.com
[14:35:02] <snowfire> ^ 03delta robot - Google Search ( https://www.google.com )
[14:35:10] <Gravis> one of those
[14:35:49] <Gravis> they are used for things 3d printers, CNC mills and other stuff
[14:36:15] <Gravis> they are good for pick and place machines
[14:37:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yeah, I remember seeing some of those at a Tampa Hacker Space demo
[14:37:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> (during BarCamp, I think.)
[14:37:47] <Bytram> ~g delta robot
[14:37:49] <exec> [google] https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:37:49] <exec> [google] https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:39:47] <Gravis> in theory, you can make a delta robot that can switch tools, so you could have a rapid prototyping system for electronics that would mill the pcb, apply solder paste, put on all the parts and melt the solder.
[14:41:06] <Bytram> oh, that's what you are talking about.
[14:41:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'd think you'd want an oven for the "melt the solder" part
[14:42:06] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: it would be better but i'm just saying, it's possible
[14:42:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> or better yet, a solder wave machine...but that's beyond most people's experience (even though they totally kick ass for rapid assembly of electronics)
[14:42:28] * Bytram worked at Computervision for a while updating their general-purpose parts programs to embrace specific extended capabilities of the vendor's machines... debugging in 6 axes is not for the faint of heart!
[14:43:22] <Bytram> Gravis: what you are describing sounds like a milling machine (with or without rotation) and with a chuck that can accept different tools
[14:44:12] <Bytram> ~g milling machine
[14:44:15] <exec> [google] https://en.wikipedia.org(machining)
[14:44:15] <exec> [google] https://en.wikipedia.org(machining)
[14:44:20] <Gravis> Bytram: sure... i'm trying to avoid the $500K price tag
[14:44:35] <Bytram> ROFL! now *there* is an understatement!
[14:45:25] <Bytram> what that price tag gets you, though, is repeatability and dimensional stability. For roughing things out, no biggee. But, if you want accuracy to 1/1000 of an inch, it's gonna cost ya!
[14:45:56] <Gravis> not true
[14:47:39] <Gravis> Bytram: see: http://delta.firepick.org
[14:47:40] <snowfire> ^ 03FirePick Delta
[14:48:13] <Gravis> 1/1000 of an inch is nothing
[14:48:53] <Bytram> let me back up a moment there... what I just stated was based on how things were back then (late 1980's). Now that you mention it, I suspect the situation just *might* have improved a bit since then! =)
[14:48:57] <Bytram> I stand correct4ed.
[14:55:26] <Gravis> my end goal is to be able to make silicon chips on par with early 1980s photolithography
[14:55:58] <Bytram> what kind of feature sizes are you looking to achieve?
[14:56:37] <Gravis> 1 µm
[14:57:53] <Bytram> are you gonna go the full photo-resist route? (/me is not entirely up to speed with such fabrication)
[14:58:04] <Gravis> this would give people the ability to do /some/ prototyping with silicon
[14:58:31] <Bytram> so, in today's lingo: 1,000 nm?
[14:58:37] <Gravis> yes
[14:58:54] <Bytram> hmmm
[14:59:22] <Gravis> the ability to prototype silicon would be huge.
[14:59:58] <Bytram> sure would!
[15:00:42] <Gravis> i could finally have a 386 without the NSA backdoors. :P
[15:00:49] <Bytram> lol!
[15:01:46] <Gravis> the prototyping is more for learning about the real world effects of a design. heat is something that isn't described well by simulations.
[15:02:23] <Bytram> as in 'hot spots' on a chip?
[15:02:25] <Gravis> with a prototype you could learn which parts of your design are problematic
[15:02:30] <Bytram> I'd agree with you on that one
[15:02:30] <Gravis> Bytram: exactly
[15:02:51] <Bytram> I'd love to chat, but it is time for me to get myself going and ready to get to work. :/
[15:03:10] <Bytram> thanks for the info on the delta stuff!
[15:03:14] <Gravis> $50K for an engineering sample is just too much :(
[15:03:18] <Bytram> we HAVE come a long ways!
[15:03:19] <Gravis> Bytram: later
[15:03:32] <Gravis> Bytram: don't die of frostbite
[15:03:40] <Bytram> thansk for the warning!
[15:04:41] <Gravis> warning? that was an order!
[15:05:44] <Bytram> Ja Wohl!
[15:05:48] <Bytram> =)
[15:05:58] <Gravis> shoo!
[15:06:15] <Gravis> varmint
[15:06:19] <Bytram> 0 degrees is not cold... I've been downhill skiing at -20 degrees F
[15:08:57] <cmn32480> don't get the runs in that weather... you get a sphincter-cicle
[15:18:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Congress Passes Permanent Ban on Internet Access Taxes - http://sylnt.us - never-met-a-tax-they-couldn't-hike
[15:22:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather 33701
[15:22:44] <MrPlow> Today: Sunny. High 67F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Tomorrow: Sunny. High 63F. Winds NNW at 10 to 15 mph.
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[15:23:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> whoo-hoo, I made irssi crash!
[15:24:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think I know how, too.
[15:24:50] <nick> anyone got a suggestion on a usable video editor for linux?
[15:40:32] <cmn32480> when you kick people to voicemail, why do they elave a message, then call back , then send a text?
[15:40:44] <Tramtrist> google voice
[15:41:06] <cmn32480> nope... regular cell line
[15:41:10] <cmn32480> jsut stupid people
[15:51:03] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[15:51:16] <Bytram|away> gtg; have a great day everyone!
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[16:04:05] <dyingtolive> is the site being funky for anyone else right now?
[16:05:04] <dyingtolive> huh. and it's back.
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[16:24:17] <Runaway1956> define "funky"
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[16:30:27] <Runaway1956> THis is to gay - Raxco software having a Valentine's day salw. 42 of 14,639
[16:30:27] <Runaway1956>
[16:30:27] <Runaway1956> Your PCs and servers will ♥fall in love♥ - Up to 40% off coupon: LOVEFEST
[16:31:18] <dyingtolive> okay. periodic internal server errors. page layout changes such that the karma/messages section on right hand side are inconsistantly in the same section as username and email (divided by horiz. bar) and in their own section.
[16:31:45] <dyingtolive> also, sometimes comments on an article disappear and are replaced by this buttony looking thing that has the sub title in it.
[16:32:25] <dyingtolive> i'm using the vt100 theme if that matters.
[16:32:35] <Runaway1956> Maybe it's my Arch Linux - no funkiness permitted or something like that. I'm just not seeing funky here.
[16:33:00] <Runaway1956> Oh yeah - I compiled the kernel with the "nofunk" option.
[16:38:09] <dyingtolive> okay, here: http://imgur.com
[16:38:10] <snowfire> ^ 03Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
[16:38:47] <dyingtolive> note the bottom of the pic? that should have Read More | 5 comments
[16:39:27] <Runaway1956> Apparently, you compiled your kernel with the "mofunk" option. Try "nofunk" next time. That really is funky, man. Motown will buy it.
[16:39:53] <dyingtolive> and the strange part is that when i refresh, it's back, but there's no rhyme or reason for which one i get shown. changes every couple refreshes at this point.
[16:39:55] <cmn32480> dyingtolive - OS/ Browser?
[16:40:41] <dyingtolive> in this case, Windows 10 (ugh) with chrome 48.0.2564.109 m
[16:40:57] <cmn32480> oooo I got the internal server error too!
[16:41:11] <Runaway1956> Windows 10 kernel is compiled with "maxfunk" option - there ya go.
[16:41:35] <dyingtolive> Runaway: Actually I do see that i have this win32mofunk.exe running. maybe that's the problem.
[16:42:27] <Runaway1956> That's a browser addon. The maxfunk option is a kernel module, you probably won't see that in task manager.
[16:42:32] <cmn32480> I have reported it.
[16:42:39] <cmn32480> to the sysops/dev teams
[16:42:48] <cmn32480> ^^^ lotsa overlaps
[16:42:51] <dyingtolive> cool. thank you sir.
[16:43:15] <cmn32480> np. I was abel to reproduce, with only a windows 7 level of funk, so it sin't jsut you
[16:43:46] <dyingtolive> well, that's still considerable funk. i'd have to walk away from my work laptop, but i could check against my bsd box.
[16:43:57] <cmn32480> nah
[16:43:59] <cmn32480> don't do that
[16:44:04] <cmn32480> I can log inot exec to see
[16:44:20] <cmn32480> he only has an Ubuntu 14.04 level funk
[16:44:32] <Runaway1956> I've got VM's running, guess I can look from Win7 as well . . .
[16:45:04] <dyingtolive> fair enough. just figured that bsd, being adamantly opposed to funk as one of its core principles would know for sure.
[16:45:41] <Runaway1956> Win7 FF 44 looks alright - let me log in from there, see if it changes
[16:46:02] <cmn32480> it is throwing the occasssional Internal server errorl
[16:46:23] <cmn32480> nope
[16:46:30] <cmn32480> same internal server error on ubuntu
[16:46:34] <cmn32480> not jsut a wondows thing
[16:46:48] <dyingtolive> well, thing is, i'm only seeing it maybe 5% of the time. i just have been refreshing more than usual out of perverse interest.
[16:46:58] <dyingtolive> ok. at least now we know.
[16:47:44] <Runaway1956> Internal server error on Win7 now
[16:48:34] <Runaway1956> and back to normal with a refresh
[16:49:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Official Soylent News Folding@Home Team - http://sylnt.us - oragami-it-ain't
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[16:50:17] <mrcoolbp> Something is amuck, we have paged the devs, thanks for the reports guys
[16:58:06] <paulej72> i bounced one of the frontends that was trowing a hissy fit. Let me know if this fixed the issue
[16:59:27] <dyingtolive> seems more stable for now. will monitor.
[17:05:12] <paulej72> polenta_with_bacon++
[17:05:12] <Bender> karma - polenta_with_bacon: 1
[17:06:29] <mrcoolbp> Runaway1956: ^^ should be fixed now. Thanks for investigating with us
[17:06:45] <mrcoolbp> paulej72++ thanks man
[17:06:45] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 202
[17:06:48] <Runaway1956> NP - I didn't do much
[17:07:19] <paulej72> I blame this one on comic rays
[17:10:48] <paulej72> s/comic/cosmic/
[17:10:48] <sedctl> <paulej72> I blame this one on cosmic rays
[17:11:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> I like the ideas of comic rays better.
[17:11:24] <paulej72> where did 201 come from
[17:18:26] <chromas> ~last message=^paulej72\+\+ until=yesterday
[17:18:47] <exec> 03[2016-02-09 22:36:0] #Soylent <chromas> paulej72++
[17:18:51] <chromas> slow_dbs--
[17:18:51] <Bender> karma - slow_dbs: -1
[17:18:58] <chromas> oh oops
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[17:31:49] <dyingtolive> strange i haven't shown up on the f@h team site yet. i wonder if my plugins are messing with the work being done, or if their site just doesn't refresh team stats often.
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[17:36:48] <Runaway1956> dyingtolive - it takes time for the stats to update - at least 6 hours, maybe 24 hours, unlikely to be 36 or more hours
[17:37:16] <Runaway1956> I used to run Seti, and others, servers can't keep up with millions of users like that
[17:39:33] <Runaway1956> Viceroy Panda? http://fah-web2.stanford.edu
[17:40:34] <chromas> Vijay S. Pande. There's a mistake though. It should be Vijay J.
[17:41:10] <Runaway1956> So, who is that Chromas guy? Is he impersonating you?
[17:42:08] <chromas> Probably. What an asshole
[17:43:01] <Runaway1956> Well, I can pose as a waiter, and serve him a heaping helping of whoopass. I do that kind of thing for my compatriots.
[17:43:21] <chromas> You can stick any name you want in there, if the name's already in the list then it just counts toward that name
[17:43:41] <chromas> So we could all rack up points as Anonymous Coward or systemd or something
[17:44:08] <chromas> Or you can run nodes on your co-workers desktops ;) and get teh credz
[17:44:10] <Runaway1956> I'm to competitive for that - I gotta beat monopoly, first off.
[17:45:11] <Runaway1956> No nodes at work. I swore off even thinking about that kind of thing. I work for computer illiterates, and I actually got chewed out for suggesting that they run adblockers to save bandwidth.
[17:46:00] <Runaway1956> If a computer catches fire at work, all I'm going to do is call the fire department, so they can come in and wreck the damned things with fire axes.
[17:46:46] <chromas> computer illiiterates, eh. sounds like the perfect drop for nodes :D just set it to minimum speed
[17:46:54] <dyingtolive> when i was considering the power costs of running this at home, the brief thought popped into my mind about the mostly idle servers i used to admin, and that i still probably had access. i had to force the idea out of my head.
[17:46:56] <chromas> if they find it then say malware must've installed it
[17:47:46] <chromas> Anyone have any estimates of the additional cost running that would incur? like a couple dollars or so?
[17:47:56] * chromas considers turning it down a little here
[17:48:21] <dyingtolive> chromas: https://folding.stanford.edu
[17:48:22] <snowfire> ^ 03FAQ — Folding@home ( https://folding.stanford.edu )
[17:48:56] <dyingtolive> it's really not a lot, and they're comparing it to a computer that is off, i believe, so technically, it's probably even a little less, but i'm not sure how universal .15 per kWh is.
[17:49:02] <dyingtolive> i'd have to look to see what mine is.
[17:49:11] <chromas> weird; it scrolled to the bottom of the page, below the question
[17:49:20] * chromas suspects you have a nice, hi-res monitor or something
[17:49:59] <chromas> lol, "a Pentium-type computer"
[17:50:04] <dyingtolive> i mean, standard 1920x1080. nothing too excessive. jumped to the right spot for me.
[17:50:32] <dyingtolive> yeah, i mean, they're assuming 400 watt power supply, so ymmv.
[17:51:18] <Runaway1956> Well, I run an AMD type computer, and my power supplies tally up to 1350 watt - but I'm not interested in the cost unless my monthly bill jumps by more than ten bucks
[17:51:29] <chromas> ooh, just finishing up another jerb; fans spun down, HDD goin'. must be uploadin' and incrementing muh score
[17:52:08] <chromas> I'm only (mildly) concerned 'cause someone else pays the bill here and I don't want to be a dick
[17:52:36] <chromas> But a few dollars is fine
[17:53:43] <dyingtolive> well, some forums i was looking at claimed substantial increases, but i don't know where they were, if their math was sound, etc.
[17:54:48] <dyingtolive> i mean, if i had eletricity paid for, i'd have tesla coils fire off 16 hours a day. i guess it depends on if you like the person footing the bill though.
[17:56:19] <Runaway1956> 10% of a work unit in 22 minutes, so about 220 minutes to do a unit. This unit, anyway. I don't know if they are uniformly sized, or random.
[17:57:37] <dyingtolive> which version of the node are you running? how high do you have it cranked?
[17:58:28] <Runaway1956> version 7.4.4-3 from the AUR, and I turned it up higher, using all 12 cores
[17:59:54] <dyingtolive> hm. i'm running teh chrome client now. seems everything i've seen takes about 10 minutes or so on "full power", which looks to be all cores. they've all taken about 10 minutes, roughly.
[18:00:22] <dyingtolive> still showing 0 points though, which is odd, but if it updates slowly like you said, that could explain it.
[18:01:36] <cmn32480> the FAH doesn't update until you complete a work unit
[18:03:42] <cmn32480> and then it updates hourly
[18:08:01] <dyingtolive> hmm. that doesn't fit with that i'm seeing. the bar reset, but i'm not seeing an update.
[18:08:31] <chromas> Did you check the team id? D:
[18:08:33] <chromas> :D
[18:09:46] <Runaway1956> The team page hasn't updated since I loaded it, maybe an hour ago.
[18:09:48] <dyingtolive> yeah. it's showing slashdot. just like it should, right? :)
[18:09:57] <Runaway1956> ROFLMAO
[18:10:02] <dyingtolive> http://imgur.com
[18:10:02] <snowfire> ^ 03Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
[18:10:11] <chromas> someimtes the site masturbates instead of loading
[18:10:16] <dyingtolive> everything looks good. points just don't inrease.
[18:11:01] <chromas> Maybe it's 'cause the passkey isn't empty
[18:11:16] <Runaway1956> Points may not be awarded until the work units are assessed, then passed or failed
[18:11:47] <Runaway1956> BOINC works like that - if your computer borks some work units, you never get points for those work units
[18:12:01] <Runaway1956> Also, some WU are faulty when shipped, so they don't earn points either
[18:12:14] <dyingtolive> oh, nm. whatever it was, it's updating now on my personal page, with reference to the team. it's working. i was just worried i didn't have it set up right.
[18:12:46] <chromas> You didn't
[18:12:48] <Runaway1956> You got a page? I don't think I have on yet
[18:12:57] <chromas> Need to set the name to "chromas" ;)
[18:13:38] <Runaway1956> I set my name to "chromasisanass"
[18:13:49] <Runaway1956> Will that work?
[18:14:09] <dyingtolive> http://fah-web.stanford.edu
[18:14:09] <snowfire> ^ 03runaway1956's contributions to Folding@home
[18:14:44] <Runaway1956> OOOOOHHHHHHHH!
[18:14:45] <dyingtolive> i know the site isn't the point of the project, but man their site kind of sucks.
[18:14:53] * Runaway1956 gots his own page!
[18:15:43] <Runaway1956> It could be worse - they could have asked me to set it up. Nothing would ever load then!
[18:16:44] <chromas> page for systemd: score 5242; WU 11; but 0 active clients and no date of last wu
[18:17:05] <cmn32480> wait.. how do you have a score of zero with 3 WU complete?
[18:17:06] <chromas> Maybe they need to make their website a distributed project
[18:18:10] <chromas> and it shows him in last place
[18:18:12] <Runaway1956> Well - my granny said that a watched pot never boils. I guess I'll stop watching this folding.
[18:18:48] <cmn32480> welcome to the club !
[18:19:08] <cmn32480> check it a couple times a day max... or you keep hitting refresh... all the time
[18:19:21] <Runaway1956> Well - three units complete, and 0 points might indicate the WU got screwed up. I'll be watching, because I have a non-standard kernel on my machine.
[18:19:59] <cmn32480> I have more WU thatn SirFinkus, but fewer points....
[18:20:09] <Runaway1956> Or, it might indicate that the servers haven't all coordinated their updates - you get credit for a WU before the points are computed
[18:20:11] <cmn32480> time to crank the R710 up to 11!
[18:20:30] <cmn32480> more time = <points
[18:20:38] <Runaway1956> Not all work units are worth the same - again, that's from prior experience with distributed computing
[18:20:46] <cmn32480> the longer the WU takes to process, the fewer points you get
[18:20:53] <cmn32480> that is also correct
[18:21:34] <cmn32480> I have an actual server running this... avg WU takes < 3 hours at full bore
[18:22:00] <cmn32480> jsut started a new one. 2hrs 39 min to completion
[18:22:28] * cmn32480 bets if he shut down all teh VM's on that box performance woudl increase
[18:23:16] <Runaway1956> That is likely - my VM's appear to be consuming about 6 or 7 percent of CPU time
[18:23:51] <dyingtolive> mine have all been full power on an i7 2600k. i've got some other stuff going on in the background, but cpu has been pegged hard at 100 for some time now.
[18:24:17] <cmn32480> dunno what mine are eatin... but it is 4 Windows Server 2008R2 instances in my test ewnvironment
[18:24:36] <cmn32480> the percentages go liek this as far as the doc says:
[18:24:42] <cmn32480> light = 50%
[18:24:47] <cmn32480> medium = 80%
[18:24:52] <cmn32480> Full = 100%
[18:25:27] <dyingtolive> makes sense then.
[18:25:44] <Runaway1956> As suspected, the FAHviewer eats a little more than 1 % of CPU
[18:26:13] <cmn32480> yup
[18:26:34] <cmn32480> and if you have multiple machines running, ther is a control panel that you can run to see them all from one place
[18:26:36] <dyingtolive> one chrome thread is at about 97%, but otherwise, i basically just have a couple putty windows, music player, steam, and an ide open. more ram than cpu since i'm not really doing much
[18:26:43] <cmn32480> you just have to make sure you enabel the password
[18:27:06] <dyingtolive> nice. i'll have to get that set up. i'm going to put this on my bsd box later.
[18:27:26] <chromas> You can set it to not need a password, but it requires a restart of the thing
[18:27:45] <cmn32480> I HAD to put a password in to get it working to monitor the linux boxes chromas
[18:27:54] <Runaway1956> It should be noted, if you run FAHcore from a command line, you get constant updates in the console - FAHviewer is just eye candy for the same data
[18:27:59] <cmn32480> soon as I put the pwd in.. everythgin worked
[18:28:25] <Runaway1956> Of course, that ocnsole won't monitor remote machiens
[18:28:28] <chromas> You need to add in a <command-allow-no-pass v='127.0.0.1 10.10.10.0/24'/>
[18:28:32] <chromas> into config.xml
[18:28:45] <chromas> (and change the addresses)
[18:29:10] <chromas> not that it matters since you've got a password now :)
[18:29:58] <dyingtolive> i need to see if i can move where it's saving the data to too. don't like all this activity on my SSD.
[18:30:22] * cmn32480 adds more Dave;s Gourmet Hurtin Jalepeno to his lunch
[18:30:23] <chromas> use a compressed ramdisk
[18:30:34] <Runaway1956> With almost all other windows closed now, FAHcore_a4 is using 98% CPU
[18:30:35] <chromas> that way you get two or three more points
[18:31:10] <dyingtolive> i could do that in linux, but there a good way to set that up on windows?
[18:31:52] <Runaway1956> Does it use RAMdisk by default? If so, I'm good to go - my RAMdisk grows with demand, up to about 20 gig
[18:32:41] <cmn32480> ~tiem
[18:32:44] <cmn32480> ~time
[18:32:46] <exec> Friday, 12 February 2016 @ 1:32 pm EST - Baltimore, MD, USA
[18:32:49] <cmn32480> shit
[18:32:51] <cmn32480> concall
[18:32:52] <chromas> Looks like you need third-party software in wondows
[18:32:52] <cmn32480> back late
[18:33:05] <cmn32480> r
[18:33:12] <Gravis> chromas: lulz. why are you using windows?
[18:33:12] <chromas> ~g'bye sir
[18:33:26] <chromas> Gravis: I'm not. Where did you learn to read? :)
[18:33:57] <Gravis> chromas: i learned from watching you dad!
[18:33:57] * Gravis runs away crying.
[18:34:02] <Runaway1956> Winbloze always needs 3rd party software to make anything work
[18:34:12] <chromas> Well, I do have f@h running one a windows box as well, but that hasn't been mentioned recently
[18:34:13] <dyingtolive> nah, i'm the scrub on windows. most powerful box in the house is the gaming box. :(
[18:34:43] <Gravis> dyingtolive: the only power it has is the power to spy on you
[18:35:10] <dyingtolive> but it can do it faster than anything else i have! :)
[18:36:01] <chromas> you could niggerrig it by running a linux VM on the box and give it a compressed ramdisk and share it to windows. I'm sure that would be fast ;)
[18:36:36] * chromas actually came across a tutorial page for that
[18:36:55] <dyingtolive> i figure, no webcam, mic unplugged unless i'm on ventrilo, they can enjoy watching me play games, watch music, and shitpost to websites. anything serious happens on the bsd box.
[18:37:13] <chromas> oh, I guess linux with the ramdisk is the host, and windows is the vm
[18:37:40] <chromas> I keep a webcam pointed at my crotch at all times when I'm running windows, just in case
[18:37:49] <dyingtolive> besides, i have the windows based work laptop here, which i'm pretty sure IS spying on me, so i'm screwed either way.
[18:38:07] <Gravis> chromas: "niggerrig"? wtf?
[18:38:22] <Gravis> chromas: that shit's racist
[18:38:27] <chromas> oh sorry, there's probably a space in there
[18:38:40] <dyingtolive> i've never actually seen it spelled, to be honest.
[18:39:40] <Runaway1956> ROFLMAO
[18:39:40] <dyingtolive> i might try the vm/ramdisk thing. sounds convoluted though. realistically, i'll just install the win client and hope for options.
[18:40:16] <Runaway1956> Our shit's all Arkie rigged around here
[18:40:32] <dyingtolive> arkie?
[18:40:45] <Gravis> dyingtolive: you have options. stop using windows.
[18:41:00] <Runaway1956> That's a step below Mexi rigged, which in turn is a step lower than nigger rigged
[18:41:46] <chromas> up next: "jerry rigged" vs "jury rigged"
[18:42:03] <dyingtolive> Gravis: i know there's options. i'm using them elsewhere. gaming is the issue. i could dual boot and only boot into windows, i'm just a lazy bastard.
[18:42:11] <Runaway1956> Jury rigged is high class - they use that in New York City
[18:42:11] <chromas> I would expect "jury rigged" to have different connotations
[18:42:48] * Runaway1956 connotes the lowest connotations to each rigging
[18:42:49] <chromas> dyingtolive: yeah build a loonix USB drive that just runs f@h and a ramdisk
[18:43:30] <Gravis> dyingtolive: just as long as you know that you're part of the problem.
[18:43:30] <chromas> then you can go around booting people's computers with it
[18:43:44] <chromas> Gravis: am I part of the problem if I buttpirated windows?
[18:43:49] <dyingtolive> ooh, for that matter, i could just get chromium working on my pi2. that would get me AAALLLLL the points.
[18:43:53] <Gravis> chromas: yes
[18:43:56] -!- Ethanol-fueled [Ethanol-fueled!~62b0c8c6@SectorZeroZeroOne] has joined #Soylent
[18:44:51] <chromas> 0: install buttpirate windows; 1: downgrade to legitimate 10 for free; 2: tell Gravis
[18:45:07] <dyingtolive> Gravis: so where exactly is the divide here, is it windows vs everything else? is it FOSS vs everything else?
[18:45:10] <Runaway1956> One day, the wife is going to bring groceries home from Walmart, and I'm just going to shoot her
[18:45:25] <Runaway1956> Rotisserie chicken has dried, hard parts? WTF?
[18:45:31] <dyingtolive> how okay is OSX? i don't mean from a usability point of view, but a "part of the problem" point of view.
[18:46:00] <chromas> Gravis: make us a Problematic Index chart
[18:46:08] <Runaway1956> Depends on how zealous the zealot how big the problem is
[18:46:27] <chromas> walmart_groceries--
[18:46:27] <Bender> karma - walmart_groceries: -1
[18:46:28] <Gravis> dyingtolive: it all depends on what you care about. however, windows checks off all this shitty software boxes.
[18:46:31] <Runaway1956> OSX is a much better OS than Windows
[18:46:59] <Gravis> s/this/the
[18:46:59] * sedctl tosses a / to Grivys
[18:47:13] <chromas> True. Let's all push for the Year of OSseX on the Desktop
[18:47:29] <Gravis> s/this/the/
[18:47:29] <sedctl> <Greves> dyingtolive: it all depends on what you care about. however, windows checks off all the shitty software boxes.
[18:47:42] <Runaway1956> I'll settle for OSsex in the bedroom
[18:48:01] <chromas> You mean like a prostitute?
[18:48:06] <chromas> Open Sores
[18:48:31] <Runaway1956> No, profesionals wear the mattress tied to their backs - they don't need a bedroom
[18:48:57] <Gravis> who made the sedctl bot fuck up my name?
[18:49:10] <dyingtolive> it fucked mine up too
[18:49:31] <dyingtolive> s/too/as an example
[18:49:31] * sedctl offers dungtylive a /
[18:49:38] <Runaway1956> Please, sedctl is having her time of the month - DO NOT comment on her fuckups.
[18:49:41] <dyingtolive> s/too/as/ an example
[18:50:11] <Gravis> Runaway1956: you're that long annoying joke without a punchline
[18:50:35] <Runaway1956> The joke's on you - I do have a punch
[18:50:37] <chromas> I thought the period was the punchline
[18:51:02] <chromas> page updated
[18:51:12] <chromas> you guys are on it now
[18:51:19] <chromas> still 0 points for Runaway1956; wtfbbqb
[18:51:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FAA Updates its Ban on Drones in Washington - http://sylnt.us
[18:51:25] <Runaway1956> It's not your time of month too, is it Gravis ?
[18:51:33] <chromas> it's always his time
[18:51:50] <chromas> At least he puts in more effort than poutine ever did
[18:52:24] <mechanicjay> when did we last see poutine?
[18:52:32] <chromas> he's here now
[18:52:40] <chromas> ~last nick=poutine
[18:52:41] <mechanicjay> when did he last say something?
[18:52:48] <exec> 03[2016-02-07 00:44:2] #Soylent <poutine> heh
[18:53:01] <mechanicjay> alright then
[18:53:10] <chromas> ~random nick=poutine channel=
[18:53:14] <exec> 03[2014-02-13 20:09:27] ##altslashdot <poutine> sgleysti, Actually I live in a place where there's 335 days of sunshine a year
[18:54:09] <Runaway1956> He COUNTS the sunny days? Probably needs to get a life.
[18:54:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> nah, probably lives in Florida where the government does it for him
[18:54:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> Sunshine state and all
[18:55:03] <Runaway1956> Didn't think of that - they pay people to count the sun shiny days
[18:55:05] <Gravis> ahh... good ol /ignore
[18:55:07] <chromas> Florida: The most penile state
[18:55:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> of course, their definition of "day of sunshine" means that the sun was visible for part of the day
[18:55:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Florida also has a Jewey city - Miami.
[18:55:32] <Runaway1956> Well, didn't it start out as a penal colony? Or, was that Oz?
[18:55:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> never mind the fact that Florida gets torrential downpours every afternoon in the summer, even if it was clear in the morning.
[18:56:15] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: well New Yorkers have to retire somewhere
[18:56:16] <Ethanol-fueled> And you got gators and swamps.
[18:56:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> Ethanol-fueled: Miami isn't Jewey, it's just awful.
[18:56:59] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't know if you all remember last night, but I told you that I was going to upload the butthole-clenching scene from Pink Flamingos for you.
[18:57:00] <Runaway1956> Daytona Beach is alright - miles and miles of motorcycles, and biker bars - pretty cool, really
[18:57:28] <Ethanol-fueled> this is VERY NSFW. Link incoming...
[18:57:29] <Ethanol-fueled> https://drive.google.com
[18:57:30] <snowfire> ^ 03Bird's the Word.mp4 - Google Drive
[18:57:38] <Runaway1956> Ethanol-fueld - where are you from?
[18:57:44] <Ethanol-fueled> San Diego.
[18:58:06] <Ethanol-fueled> "From" the Imperial Valley
[18:58:14] <Runaway1956> The place where the snow only falls on the mountain tops
[18:58:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Runaway, and idiots are willing to wait 6 hours in traffic and pay permits just to play in it.
[18:58:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Morans.
[18:59:10] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: that video sucks. his timing is completely off
[18:59:29] <Runaway1956> Uh-huh. I prefer to do my tundra stomping on virgin snow, marked only by ptarmigan tracks, and maybe polar bear tracks.
[18:59:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, chromas, it's not as good as I remembered it.
[18:59:41] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: but a little video editing could go a long way
[18:59:57] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, it's open-source. Edit it yourself
[18:59:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Bahahahah
[19:00:04] <chromas> make it look like he's talking
[19:01:33] <Gravis> i'm looking forward to the day Ethanol-fueled is gone because it will mean he got his stupid ass shot. :)
[19:02:02] * Runaway1956 notes that Gravis is expecially hateful today
[19:02:14] <Gravis> the world actually will be a little bit better that day.
[19:02:14] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled is the brown menace
[19:02:14] <Ethanol-fueled> I doubt I'll get shot. If I die it'll be working some shit job, eaten alive by a machine
[19:02:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Gravis has every right to hate me, I called him a "cocksucker" once or twice.
[19:02:51] <Runaway1956> Well, does he suck cock?
[19:02:54] <Gravis> chromas: color has nothing to do with the fact that he's a pest
[19:03:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Runaway, I don't know. If that's what people like to do then they have the right to do it.
[19:03:35] <chromas> Gravis: that means he can do whatever he wants and we're racis for calling him out on it. check the rules. check yo privilege
[19:03:51] <Ethanol-fueled> political_correctness--
[19:03:51] <Bender> karma - political_correctness: -3
[19:03:59] <dyingtolive> really, does anyone really expect to get shot though? i mean, that's not something you really plan your day around.
[19:04:12] <chromas> apparently cops do
[19:04:12] <Runaway1956> Racist? Does that mean that EF has brown skin?
[19:04:21] <chromas> yeah, like 6% or so
[19:04:24] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm a good little bootlicker when it comes to cops
[19:04:36] <Ethanol-fueled> and I don't pick fights with minorities unless they're hipsters
[19:04:52] <Runaway1956> Cops are pussies compared to fishermen, loggers, construction workers, etc
[19:04:52] <Ethanol-fueled> (anymore)
[19:05:22] <Ethanol-fueled> That is true, runaway. Cops don't really see danger all that often, unless they're in the shittest parts of Detroit
[19:05:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Plus they know that if anybody harms them, they're gonna die for it.
[19:06:20] <Ethanol-fueled> San Diego requires 2 ghetto birds (police helos) flying 24/7
[19:06:36] <Runaway1956> It took hundreds of cops to control that little riot in Ferguson, and they failed.
[19:06:56] <chromas> Could've just used one bomb
[19:06:58] <Runaway1956> It took six sailors to disperse a riot in Crotone Italy. A
[19:07:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Runaway, that was a situation where they had to do their jobs with their hands tied. Had they acted violently they may have ignited a catagory 5 chimpout.
[19:07:26] <Runaway1956> The Caribineiri didn't run from us, so the seventh sailor set up an M-2 on the bridge wing
[19:08:13] <Runaway1956> Isn't that how we lost the war in Vietnam?
[19:08:26] <Ethanol-fueled> AMERICA NEVER LOSES
[19:08:42] <dyingtolive> Ferguson did do some good for the world though. it brought us that picture of the Doritos guy.
[19:08:46] <Runaway1956> We had our asses handed to us - call it a loww or not
[19:09:00] <Runaway1956> * loss
[19:09:11] <Gravis> dyingtolive: huh?
[19:09:14] <chromas> ~g ferguson doritos guy
[19:09:16] <exec> [google] https://www.biv.com
[19:09:16] <exec> [google] https://www.biv.com
[19:09:27] <dyingtolive> i'm looking for the picture. one second.
[19:09:39] <Ethanol-fueled> AMerica's obsession with race is just picking a scab, a divide-and-conquer technique to keep the people bickering amongst themselves instead of joining forces to unfuck the government.
[19:09:54] <Runaway1956> BINGO!
[19:10:04] <Runaway1956> No one discusses real issues in the debates.
[19:10:23] <Ethanol-fueled> "debates"
[19:10:29] <nick> Runaway1956++
[19:10:29] <Bender> karma - runaway1956: 2
[19:10:38] <Ethanol-fueled> The verbal equivalent of "professional" wrestling
[19:10:51] <dyingtolive> okay, this link is Lawful Evil, but the picture is safe.
[19:10:54] <chromas> mass debation
[19:10:54] <dyingtolive> http://rack.2.mshcdn.com
[19:11:12] * Runaway1956 notes that most Americans believe that "professional wrestling" is for real.
[19:11:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Runaway, I was in the fourth grade when my teacher told me it wasn't real. I was sad all day
[19:11:45] <dyingtolive> guy in an american flag shirt, flare in one hand, bag of chips in the other. this is america.
[19:11:55] <chromas> Doritos? Those are totally Lays Mesquite BBQ potato chips
[19:11:58] * Runaway1956 wrestled in high school
[19:12:10] <Runaway1956> There are actually things called "rules" in wrestling
[19:12:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahaha, that's gotta be the most America picture out there.
[19:12:15] <nick> is that why linda mcmahon didn't win a seat in the senate or whatever she ran for?
[19:12:23] <dyingtolive> okay, well, i'm not a chip guy. sorry for fucking it up.
[19:12:27] <chromas> lol
[19:12:38] <Ethanol-fueled> I wrestled in high school as well. I sucked though
[19:13:03] <Gravis> i have wondered why people didn't throw tear gas cans back at cops
[19:13:15] <Gravis> seems they do
[19:13:32] <dyingtolive> i think usually there's too much panic.
[19:13:48] <Ethanol-fueled> nick, is that vince's wife?
[19:13:53] <nick> i think if people used tear gas it would be called chemical weapons
[19:13:55] <Ethanol-fueled> vince was roided up as fuck
[19:14:01] <nick> Ethanol-fueled: aye
[19:14:15] <Runaway1956> rioters seldom have the self discipline, or the organization, to resist the cops effectively
[19:14:42] <dyingtolive> i think they should start showing up to riots with leaf blowers and fans running off of batteries. enough wind power and the tear gas wouldn't be an issue.
[19:14:45] <Ethanol-fueled> runaway, some people are just along for the ride to fuck shit up, maybe steal a thing or two
[19:15:03] <Runaway1956> Yep.
[19:15:19] <nick> it doesnt help that the people who do riot have very limited understanding of what they're actually trying to fight
[19:15:22] <dyingtolive> we saw that with OWS too.
[19:15:36] <Runaway1956> They should bring maintenance men to riots - there is NOTHING a maintenance man can't fuck up.
[19:15:53] <Ethanol-fueled> OWS doesn't fly in San Diego. The city sent in a team of Blackwater-tier private security to mop the floor with those fuckers
[19:16:04] <Ethanol-fueled> their strength went down by like 75% overnight
[19:16:27] <Runaway1956> Does San Diego have a Wall Street? What happened, OWS people got lost on the way to New York?
[19:16:28] <Ethanol-fueled> All that were left were the bums, weirdos, and agents-provocateurs
[19:16:59] <Ethanol-fueled> We had an OWS movement that had a lot of normie moderates until the team of thugs kicked the mob's ass
[19:17:18] <dyingtolive> we had about 6 people protesting for OWS across teh street from the, like, 4 banking related offices here in STL.
[19:17:31] * Runaway1956 should be going to bed
[19:17:42] <dyingtolive> the PP mess got more attention. :(
[19:17:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck bed, it's deadpool day today
[19:18:09] <dyingtolive> i'm going tomorrow.
[19:18:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Deadpool movie?
[19:18:21] <Runaway1956> Hey, Buzzard, are you doing Folding At Home?
[19:18:23] <cmn32480> new dirty harry movie?
[19:18:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, not a chance. i like it when my cpu/gpu continue working for a long time.
[19:18:44] <Runaway1956> If so, I found everything in the AUR
[19:19:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, yar. Merc with a mouth ftw.
[19:19:25] <Runaway1956> define "long time" - you mean like "me make you feel good long time Joe" ?
[19:19:43] <SirFinkus> woohoo, short day
[19:20:04] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm gonna bail to run and be productive. I'll likely be back in 4-6 hours to begin drunken SN IRC
[19:20:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Later y'all
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[19:21:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, mostly i mean more than a year. running either of the processors balls out all the time is not conducive to that.
[19:21:23] <chromas> You just need more water cooling
[19:21:31] <Runaway1956> Oh - the news feeds - another Mohammed tried to chop people up with a machete in Ohio http://www.foxnews.com
[19:21:32] <snowfire> ^ 03At least 4 injured in machete attack at Ohio restaurant | Fox News
[19:22:03] <Runaway1956> The media is trying hard not to admit that he's a Muslim
[19:22:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> it'd be kinda hilarious if they tried that shit here in Florida
[19:22:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, they do that
[19:22:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> You know how many people carrying concealed weapons there are here?
[19:23:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wanna see it tried in tx
[19:23:30] <Runaway1956> It was tried in Texas.
[19:23:53] <Runaway1956> Two terrorists dead, nothing to see here, move along, let us clean up the blood and gore.
[19:24:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> as it should be
[19:24:18] <chromas> texas++ # despite religinuts
[19:24:18] <Bender> karma - texas: 1
[19:24:49] <Runaway1956> ROFLMAO - my kid is reveling in the new open carry law in Texas
[19:27:10] <cmn32480> the is same kids that went MIA?
[19:27:50] <Runaway1956> Oh no - this is the youngest son - the one with brains
[19:27:58] <Runaway1956> My last shot was the best shot
[19:28:39] <cmn32480> lol... my last one was the girls
[19:28:46] <cmn32480> but the jury is still out on all of them.
[19:28:49] <cmn32480> theya re too young
[19:28:58] <Runaway1956> Well - girls can be smart too, ya know.
[19:29:03] <Runaway1956> Are you some kinda sexist?
[19:29:24] <Runaway1956> Just kidding ;^)
[19:30:07] <SirFinkus> welcome to the botnet Runaway1956
[19:30:17] <SirFinkus> and dyingtolive
[19:30:32] <SirFinkus> fuck beta though
[19:30:43] <SirFinkus> don't want its workunits
[19:30:45] <dyingtolive> thanks, but i was already part of the botnet. i have a windows pc. :)
[19:31:16] * Runaway1956 ponders the botnet
[19:31:43] <Runaway1956> OMG - I'm marked!
[19:31:51] <dyingtolive> honestly, i'd like to see a lot more soylent services. someone mentioned SoylentHub as an alternative to github the other day, and i think that sounds just swell.
[19:32:15] <SirFinkus> soylentnews.org: the systemd of news aggregators
[19:32:21] <dyingtolive> YES
[19:32:24] <cmn32480> soylent services?
[19:32:34] <cmn32480> SoylEscorts?
[19:32:40] <dyingtolive> well, i mean, soylent type groups. 'services' is probably not the right word.
[19:32:53] <SirFinkus> we should get into the food game
[19:33:07] <dyingtolive> we could just call it "soylent". i think it's brilliant.
[19:33:12] <SirFinkus> imagine, something you could drink that would give you all the nutrients you need in a perfectly balanced meal
[19:33:13] <cmn32480> we'd get sued into oblivion for TM infringement
[19:33:15] <Runaway1956> Recycling food seems an honorable profession
[19:33:32] <cmn32480> I do it every day
[19:33:38] <cmn32480> it goes in in many forms...
[19:33:42] <cmn32480> comes out as logs
[19:33:44] <Runaway1956> 100% puew recycled humans
[19:33:58] <Runaway1956> s/ pure
[19:33:59] <SirFinkus> the soylent guys really should try to license the name so they can have different variants
[19:34:06] <cmn32480> I think the SoylEscorts woudl take off
[19:34:06] <SirFinkus> mostly so they could have soylent green
[19:34:11] <cmn32480> all the nerds we got?
[19:34:29] * Runaway1956 calls it a day
[19:34:32] <Runaway1956> later
[19:34:37] <SirFinkus> bye
[19:34:45] <cmn32480> night Runaway1956
[19:34:52] <cmn32480> ~gnight Runaway1956
[19:34:54] * exec unjustifiably blows a DD cup of chromas scratching his glasshole at Runaway1956
[19:35:30] <dyingtolive> ugh. anything with "asshole" in it is too soon.
[19:35:46] <chromas> how about glasscrack?
[19:35:53] <chromas> it's more of a crack anyhow
[19:36:06] <cmn32480> so yo broke your butt?
[19:36:12] <cmn32480> it has a big crack in it now?
[19:36:21] * chromas adds a laptop to his nodes; estimated 53 points per day
[19:36:29] <SirFinkus> quit cracking jokes cmn32480, you're cracking me up
[19:36:56] <cmn32480> I'm on a conference call.. adn i read that I almost busted out laughing obefore I coudl hit mute
[19:37:17] <SirFinkus> bitch ass cracker
[19:45:40] <dyingtolive> stupid fucking dog. barks all day at imagined noises, unless they sound scary.
[19:46:42] <dyingtolive> some kid playing outside? obvious threat? car parking? obvious threat. loud rumbling of a garbage truck? nah, that one might hurt.
[19:50:18] <chromas> also if they're outside, anything going by they can't sniff needs to be barked at
[19:50:37] <chromas> like if there's a fence in the way. if there's no fence, then just watching's fine
[19:50:42] <chromas> (unless it's the newspaper)
[19:50:58] <dyingtolive> i guess that's fair. there's no way to know if it's good or evil without shoving your nose about an inch and a half up it's ass.
[19:53:53] <cmn32480> chromas's ass shoudl take it further than that.. he has a big crack in it
[19:54:44] * chromas checks his arm, puts it by butt and compares cracks
[19:54:49] <chromas> compare and contrast
[19:55:33] <dyingtolive> cmn32480: as a rule i charge if the dog goes any more than an inch and a half in the ass.
[19:56:00] <cmn32480> dog pays off in leg humping?
[19:56:26] <dyingtolive> sometimes. he only seems interested in humping things i also want to hump, which makes things difficult.
[19:58:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> dyingtolive: well...you just have to get interested in humping the couch!
[19:59:07] <dyingtolive> yeah, that's the thing i've been missing in my life. :)
[19:59:42] <dyingtolive> i've about got him to understand the current girlfiend is off limits. well, almost.
[20:00:23] <dyingtolive> the amount of distaste she has when i look at the dog and say "hey! hey! you gotta buy her dinner first, man!" almost makes it worth it though.
[20:07:50] <chromas> She just wants you to vary the joke more. Like mention chocolate or tell the dog it's got the wrong kind of 'whine'
[20:07:54] <chromas> ;)
[20:08:57] <dyingtolive> oh the whine one is good. i'll probably use that. i could see variations being a good idea, though i don't overuse it too much, since i only see her about once a month. she doesn't eat chocolate though. :(
[20:09:20] <chromas> This disturbs me
[20:09:29] <chromas> Any chocolate? Or just like certain types
[20:09:51] <dyingtolive> well, most chocolate. it's nothing about the chocolate itself. she's just obnoxiously vegan.
[20:10:03] <chromas> Some women just hate milk chocolate or something, but love the dark stuff, which makes sense because it's far superior
[20:10:27] <dyingtolive> i've gotten her to settle for vegtarian around me. dark chocolate could be pulled off probably long as it didn't have lactose or anything.
[20:11:07] <dyingtolive> i'm working on getting her to be a little more reasonable. for all her posteuring, she really likes my homemade paneer.
[20:11:17] <chromas> Those 60%+ baking chocolate chunks make pretty tasty candy bars
[20:11:25] <dyingtolive> which is decidedly not vegan.
[20:11:32] <chromas> I can see vegetarian, but fuck veganism. Cheese rules
[20:11:40] <chromas> and eggs
[20:12:08] <dyingtolive> i'd have to check those. i have some 60% ghiradelli chips in the freezer from the last time i made cookeis.
[20:12:12] <dyingtolive> cookies.
[20:12:28] <chromas> those make great snackin's
[20:12:39] <chromas> not that it's healthy or anything
[20:12:40] <dyingtolive> yeah, i could live without meat, though i'd be unhappy. i can not live without eggs and milk products though.
[20:12:56] <chromas> chocolate headaches suck though
[20:13:13] <dyingtolive> chocolate headaches? i didn't realize that was a thing.
[20:13:22] <dyingtolive> i don't really eat a lot of sweets though.
[20:15:30] <dyingtolive> holy crap. googling it, i didn't know people even had problems with this. everything on the list of similar headache triggers are some of my favorite things.
[20:15:49] <chromas> Occasionally I'll snack on chocolate chips or something and if I eat much, I'll have a headache in a few hours, that usually lasts a couple days
[20:15:49] <dyingtolive> aged cheese, pork, nuts, avocados?
[20:16:55] <chromas> Mmm, cheese and avocados
[20:17:10] <dyingtolive> huh. typically i just feel shitty and get a stomach ache long before i get a headache.
[20:17:49] <dyingtolive> i kind of lost my taste for sweet things somewhere in the last 5 years.
[20:18:10] <chromas> I need to do that
[20:18:14] <chromas> self_control++
[20:18:14] <Bender> karma - self_control: 1
[20:18:32] <dyingtolive> stopped really buying candy. ever. beer slowly went from being nothing but porters and high malt beers to being stuff like pale ales.
[20:19:08] <dyingtolive> i wish it was voluntary self control. just too sweet nowadays. i don't even really drink juice much, compared to my previous daily half bottle of oj.
[20:19:26] <chromas> yeah screw juice. Make smoothies :D
[20:19:40] <chromas> berries++
[20:19:40] <Bender> karma - berries: 2
[20:20:04] <dyingtolive> that would probably be better. i can still eat whole fruit. love the hell out of pies too. that's the one exception.
[20:20:44] <chromas> here's a link for tmb: http://money.cnn.com
[20:20:45] <snowfire> ^ 03Even virtual assistants are sexually harassed - Feb. 5, 2016
[20:21:39] <dyingtolive> man, that's just strange.
[20:22:08] <chromas> This is what feminism looks like :)
[20:22:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Netflix Finishes Its Massive Migration to the Amazon Cloud - http://sylnt.us - somebody-else's-problem
[20:23:03] <chromas> what about netflix's isp-installed appliances?
[20:23:34] <dyingtolive> i mean, there's some interest in just seeing how it would respond. at the same time though, i can't identify with one of those personalities enough to have thought of doing that on my own.
[20:24:43] <chromas> Is it possible to have a voice synthesizer without making it speak dick jokes and stuff?
[20:24:53] <chromas> Like, why would you not want to do that?
[20:26:12] <dyingtolive> well, back in the old days, i used one to call the campus tech monkeys threatening to 'burn the fucking building down if they didn't fix the issue' when our internet connection was out for a week. ...from my dorm phone line.
[20:26:26] <dyingtolive> man, i was really fucking stupid.
[20:26:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> dyingtolive, oh please. i'd totally ask her what her cup size was.
[20:27:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> on someone else's computer, mind you. windows 10 gets nowhere near mine.
[20:27:12] <chromas> I told cortana to fill my hdd with porn and it just returned a bing result. fpos
[20:28:10] <dyingtolive> well, if it's someone else's computer, you just walk buy, tell cortana to download kp, and then walk away laughing. :)
[20:28:57] <dyingtolive> s/buy/by/
[20:28:57] <sedctl> <dongtylave> well, if it's someone else's computer, you just walk by, tell cortana to download kp, and then walk away laughing. :)
[20:29:00] <dyingtolive> i'm stupid.
[20:29:19] <chromas> nah, you can purchase on-the-go
[20:29:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab dyingtolive
[20:29:23] <Bender> Added quote 672
[20:29:28] <dyingtolive> shit.
[20:30:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas: s/on-the-go/beer/
[20:30:04] <sedctl> <TheMightyBuzzard> <chromas> nah, you can purchase beer
[20:30:23] * chromas notices there's a ton of cortana-related pr0nz
[20:30:28] <chromas> internet++
[20:30:28] <Bender> karma - internet: 2
[20:30:34] <chromas> rule34++
[20:30:34] <Bender> karma - rule34: 1
[20:30:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> need some cortana/clippy rule34
[20:31:10] <dyingtolive> i severely broke cortana on my windows box. not just disabling it, i actually broke it. tried turning it back on and it doesn't do a damned thing. i'd probably have to reinstall windows to get it working again.
[20:31:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice
[20:31:29] <dyingtolive> not that this does shit about the eleventybillion other ways they're watching my every move.
[20:31:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> right
[20:31:46] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: that's easy, just paint a woman blue and give her a paperclip clitring with googley eyes
[20:32:08] <dyingtolive> i figure if they want to know about my irc habits, video games, and shitposting, they can go right on ahead though.
[20:32:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> fux dat
[20:32:25] <dyingtolive> banking is bsd or osx only. i'm not proud of the osx thing, but it's there.
[20:33:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nix don't spy on me and does what i tell it. penguins ftw.
[20:42:16] <dyingtolive> i was hoping to find something someone had (hypothetically) written about the notion of forking github, but all i can find is forking (on) github.
[20:43:04] <dyingtolive> i'm going to settle for searching "github sucks" and hope that's enough.
[20:45:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> dyingtolive: gitlab?
[20:46:21] <dyingtolive> i looked at it for a while. i understand that it has similar... philsophical issues, but it's probably the leading contender in my mind.
[20:51:04] <chromas> let's all switch to bitbucket, guys
[20:51:12] * chromas receives shill check
[20:57:39] <dyingtolive> how is that atlassian money working out for you?
[20:58:19] <chromas> Terrible
[20:58:41] <chromas> I spent it all on a bag of chocolate chips and got a headache
[20:59:26] <dyingtolive> heh
[21:00:48] <chromas> ooh, welcome to the list, zz_janrinok
[21:01:53] <chromas> :( I added a laptop to the swarm; my estimated points went down to 14500
[21:03:09] <chromas> hm, the windows box's points got cut to ~10%
[21:24:15] <chromas> ps3 client's been retired. frown
[21:53:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Film Producers Abandon "Speculative Invoicing" Attempt In Australia - http://sylnt.us - omg-reasonableness-in-copyright
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[22:23:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Ping timeout? That was weird.
[22:23:56] <chromas> the red oktober swiped it up
[22:24:00] <chromas> One ping. One ping only
[22:24:53] <Ethanol-fueled> At first I thought Juggs was being funny again.
[22:25:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Like "mayne," ain't even started drankin' yet.
[22:25:45] <nick> maybe beer is the answer
[22:26:24] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm thinking about it. Nobody important's called me yet and it's Friday, I don't have shit to do and I'd benefit from an early bedtime.
[22:26:59] <JamesNZ> Morning Ethanol-fueled, chromas \o
[22:27:06] <Ethanol-fueled> sup JamesNZ
[22:27:11] <chromas> o/
[22:27:28] * chromas 's hand is terribly misaligned
[22:27:51] <Ethanol-fueled> how'd that happen, chromas? Too much fun with Manuela?
[22:28:10] <chromas> Nah, just hypospacia in the message
[22:28:36] <chromas> o/
[22:29:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> if beer is the answer, you were asking the right question!
[22:29:46] <Ethanol-fueled> nice journal entry, nick
[22:29:52] <chromas> Whisk(e)y would also have been acceptable
[22:30:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> s/beer/alcohol/
[22:30:04] <sedctl> <AndyTheAbsurd> if alcohol is the answer, you were asking the right question!
[22:30:10] <Ethanol-fueled> What about wine? Or is that too wimpy for a brute to drink?
[22:30:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> better?
[22:30:27] <Ethanol-fueled> At the bar it's all IPAs and shots of Jagermeister
[22:30:54] <Ethanol-fueled> But at home it's Gallo Sauvignon Blanc - easy to chug and gets ya fug'd up quick
[22:30:55] <Ethanol-fueled> and cheap
[22:31:05] <Ethanol-fueled> sup Andy
[22:31:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> eating popcorn and drinking Warsteiner German pilsner
[22:31:59] <nick> Ethanol-fueled: thanks. it's a bit too rambling really but i think i just about got my point across.
[22:32:39] <Ethanol-fueled> You still have a good attitude though - I think this society as-is needs to be torn down and rebuilt
[22:32:49] <Ethanol-fueled> We could start a Soylent Band
[22:34:30] <nick> i missed a big point in that journal actually, how willing people are to pay for entertainment, but how unwilling they are to pay for information
[22:35:08] <Ethanol-fueled> When you pay for entertainment, you know on some level that you're gonna get bullshit.
[22:35:25] <nick> somehow we're more inclined to think people need to be compensated for creating entertainment, than people do for a more 'public service' type thing like journalism.
[22:35:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> "Every outlet with any reach with full-time 'journalists' are under the control of commercial interests and/or an incoherent bureaucratic mess of government oversight, perhaps wrapped in the guise of independence from government." <-- I work for one that isn't (Times Publishing Company, which publishes the Tampa Bay Times and tampabay.com, and the ownership structure is TPC -> Poynter Institute -> that's it.)
[22:35:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Information doesn't have that certainty. Could you imagine paying for MSNBC or FoxNews' "information?"
[22:36:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> (although it does sometimes suffer for having an editorial filter.)
[22:36:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I know places like SN and Zerohedge aren't full of shit, but even venerable rags have editorial filters
[22:36:52] <nick> AndyTheAbsurd: as soon as you have to take that ad money and do sponsored content, things start slipping
[22:37:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, agreed.
[22:37:11] <nick> there are some better and worse than others, saying every is a broad brush but at the same time, is really more accurate
[22:37:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> True... but there's a big notice in the room where layout is done stating that "all paid content *MUST* be clearly labeled with the word 'ADVERTISEMENT'"
[22:38:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> so the journalism part of the business is doing everything it can to keep the distinction between original content and paid content clear
[22:39:17] <Ethanol-fueled> andy, does your rag do political endorsements?
[22:39:28] <Ethanol-fueled> On the local/state level?
[22:41:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> Ethanol-fueled: As far as I know, no. (I didn't really pay much attention to them until I got a job there - kind of figured it was your usual stupid dead-tree publication. It is a dead-tree publication but it's a lot less stupid than I anticipated.)
[22:42:17] <Ethanol-fueled> dead-trees rock. I love the smell of them, reading them with coffee and breakfast -- but into the trash the "arts" and "entertainment" sections go
[22:42:55] <nick> to be fair, Tampa Bay Times does seem to be one of the better examples of a mainstream news publication.
[22:44:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yeah...and because of the ownership structure, it's impossible for News Corp or Gannet or one of those guys to gobble them up.
[22:45:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> even funnier: Our major competitor in the region is shutting down their printing presses and we'll be printing all their publications within the next month.
[22:45:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahah, nice.
[22:45:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Money is money. It's common in the electronics industry to buy parts from your competitor as well.
[22:46:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Do you have any favorite national newspapers?
[22:57:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> Dude, I don't even subscribe to the newspaper I work for.
[22:58:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> Not because the journalism isn't good - but because I don't read enough of it, and I hate have them pile up in the house.
[22:59:02] <nick> Ethanol-fueled: i don't think anyone should have a favourite really, unless you don't mind having a bias ingrained
[22:59:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahah
[22:59:25] <Ethanol-fueled> hey nick, note that I said favorite paperS
[22:59:49] <Ethanol-fueled> I agree with you though, it's like asking who your favorite band is. People rarely have just one.
[23:00:05] <nick> The Guardian, The Telegraph and the Daily Mail are the ones i read the most (for UK papers)
[23:00:18] <nick> but i'd call them all pathetic excuses for journalism
[23:00:46] <Ethanol-fueled> So they have a pro-migrant, pro-war,anti-populist bias?
[23:00:48] <nick> the dailymail is the only one that embraces it's shameless behaviour and uses it to get those clicks.
[23:01:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, I thought the dailymail was a tabloid
[23:01:12] <nick> sadly not
[23:02:46] <nick> Guardian is 'liberal leftie hippie shit', Telegraph is 'old boys network in the city', The Daily Mail is click-bait with a populist drivel 'common sense' focus.
[23:03:12] <nick> all 3 manage to avoid discussion on any real issues, but in different ways
[23:03:55] <chromas> feed their articles into ciri for excellent analysis and better articles
[23:04:09] <nick> or the timing of discussion on the real issues becomes an epiphany of the press, just moments after it became irrelevant, stable door, horse already gone.
[23:04:14] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahaha, man, that sugs
[23:04:33] <Ethanol-fueled> My favorite is the Jew York Times.
[23:04:44] <crutchy> what's gold up to now?
[23:04:49] <Ethanol-fueled> I also like the Wall Street Journal to balance it out.
[23:04:55] <crutchy> went up like 150 bucks over the last week
[23:05:16] <crutchy> not that i would buy any
[23:05:21] <Ethanol-fueled> the Jew York times is actually pretty fair despite its rep for being leftist trash. There are plenty of dissenting and moderate opinions.
[23:05:29] <Ethanol-fueled> aye focker!
[23:05:50] <crutchy> paper gold is worth nothing either. if all the paper gold were taken off the market the price of actual bullion would probably be over $10,000/oz
[23:06:11] <nick> and that would be useful
[23:06:19] <Ethanol-fueled> The San Diego Union-Tribune was just blatant neocon anti-populist trash, and the L.A. Times and SF Chronicle are liberal garbage.
[23:06:51] <nick> we of course need a grain of metal to have the same purchasing power as a whole year of unskilled labour
[23:08:05] <crutchy> kinda funny that apparently there was a probably double murder suicide at a phoenix school, but absolutely none of the headlines mention that
[23:08:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> nick: personally, I think chickens make more sense as a basis for currency than gold. If people are starving, you can whatever you need by trading people something they can eat!
[23:08:22] <crutchy> they all say 'two 15 year old girls shot at phoenix area school'
[23:08:29] <nick> AndyTheAbsurd: i agree
[23:08:45] <crutchy> AndyTheAbsurd, gold will always be money
[23:08:54] <crutchy> it has been for over 5000 years
[23:09:11] <crutchy> every time a fiat currency fails, gold is the goto
[23:09:20] <nick> yeah, and for generations
[23:09:25] <nick> it's helped the already wealthy stay that way
[23:09:33] <crutchy> the problem is that a lot of people don't know the difference between money and currency
[23:09:43] <nick> buying gold, keeping the monarchies in the chair for centuries.
[23:10:00] <crutchy> gold is what makes nations powerful
[23:10:03] <crutchy> including the US
[23:10:10] <crutchy> s/is/has/
[23:10:26] <nick> didn't work out so well for that guy in Libya
[23:10:52] <crutchy> true. it makes you a target. that's why i wouldn't buy any
[23:10:55] <nick> i am not doubting the immense power and value gold holds and has held for a long time
[23:10:55] <Ethanol-fueled> agreed, nick. I wonder where all his billions went?
[23:11:22] <Ethanol-fueled> good thing oil is dirt-cheap...or else Iran would be bombed out for not wanting to trade oil in dollars.
[23:11:25] <crutchy> but the reason why normal people can't own gold is because governments need it to back up their inflated currencies
[23:11:34] <crutchy> and they will kill for that
[23:12:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Gold repatriation is mighty suspicious.
[23:12:14] <crutchy> countries don't trust the US anymore
[23:12:16] <Ethanol-fueled> "We, uh, do have your gold....just hold on for a few years while we look for it"
[23:12:48] <nick> gold isn't really backing up the inflated currencies though, not since the 70's
[23:12:54] <crutchy> the reason why nixon went off the gold standard was because countries were trying to repatriate their gold and the US couldn't fess up
[23:12:54] <Ethanol-fueled> The US and those who blindly follow it have rapidly become the laughing stock of the world.
[23:13:10] <crutchy> nick, true
[23:13:16] <crutchy> which is why they're failing
[23:13:24] <nick> it's part of a reason why they're failing
[23:13:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> Meshach, Shadrack, and a Wendigo!
[23:14:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> ^ apropos of nothing but me drinking and deciding to be more absurd than usual
[23:14:25] <crutchy> no gold standard will work though, because if you use a paper/electronic currency to represent a gold contract it will always be inflated eventually
[23:14:47] <nick> fractional reserve banking started before the gold standard got abolished
[23:14:49] <crutchy> only gold itself is scarce
[23:14:51] <nick> so it was always doomed
[23:15:07] <crutchy> true
[23:15:16] * Ethanol-fueled wonders if Tyler Durden from ZH frequents SoylentNews
[23:15:25] <nick> and the only reason fractional reserve banking got accepted, in theory, is because it already happened, and to maintain the facade it couldn't be rolled back on
[23:15:50] <nick> because all that money they didnt have, was already in the system, the honour system was broken, it was swept under the rug, and now many decades later
[23:16:06] <nick> we have $$$tn of global debt as a result
[23:16:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Print more money. Ergo, people have more money. Problem solved!
[23:16:17] <nick> and about $5 between us to pay for it
[23:16:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Meh, we can just go into more debt to pay for shit.
[23:16:26] <crutchy> its not new though. apparently the greeks did a similar thing. doped their coins with copper and inflated till they collapsed
[23:16:33] <crutchy> and became a roman satellite
[23:16:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Nobody's gonna collect on their debts when you have the most powerful military in the world.
[23:17:24] <nick> the US empire has been relatively short lived, but it's impact has been just as profound, if it continues we will see
[23:17:28] <crutchy> problem is the military is only powerrful if it is paid in a currency that is valuable
[23:17:28] <Tramtrist> hey do your bots have a 500 character limit?
[23:17:40] <Tramtrist> is that just an IRC limitation ?
[23:17:45] <Tramtrist> or is it the library i'm using
[23:17:54] <crutchy> if your soldiers can't buy a loaf of bread with their salary, they'll walk off the job
[23:18:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> Tramtrist: IRC has a character limit, IIRC server-settable but default to somewhere around 512 characters.
[23:18:07] <chromas> message size is an ircd limitation
[23:18:16] <Tramtrist> k
[23:18:19] <nick> also Ethanol-fueled: doubt the Tylers read SN, sometimes i doubt they read half the shit they publish.
[23:18:23] <Tramtrist> nothingi an doabout it then
[23:18:31] <crutchy> if contractors can't pay their workers for the price of the taks they sell, they don't make any more tanks
[23:18:51] <Tramtrist> and ya the Tylers only exist now to push gold
[23:19:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Tramtrist, if you want a bot, I can give you the source code for LaDarius
[23:19:06] <Tramtrist> naw its ok
[23:19:07] <crutchy> gold is as worthless as dollars
[23:19:12] <Tramtrist> just sucks about the 500 char liit
[23:19:13] <crutchy> because its grossly inflated
[23:19:18] <nick> crutchy: that's why we're on the way back to work houses, the 'company store' and other things like that
[23:19:37] <nick> and of course the electronic currency stuff helps all that become more palatable.
[23:20:06] <crutchy> even bullion isn't worth getting into, because eventually it will be confiscated like in the 30's
[23:20:16] <crutchy> or else jail/fines
[23:20:28] <nick> pretty sure we're working on a balance between the 19th century industrial towns and prisons for the general population.
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[23:20:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> the problem with all of it is the notion of "intrinsic value" - which doesn't exist
[23:20:54] <crutchy> gold has intrinsic value
[23:20:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> everything only has value in proportion to which it is useful to someone.
[23:21:05] <crutchy> its so valuable that only governments can hold it
[23:21:19] * chromas hides his golden cockrings
[23:21:23] <chromas> Get away, gubbmint!
[23:21:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> Gold holds no interest or value to me
[23:21:41] <crutchy> if you look at the histories of empires, it is basically a history of gold
[23:21:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> I don't like it as currency, I don't like as jewelry, I'm perfectly fine without as an engineering material.
[23:22:08] <Tramtrist> gold is a hedge against the end of the world... best to have a little of as many asset classes as possible
[23:22:11] <Tramtrist> including gold
[23:22:16] * nick digs out a fairly recent comment
[23:22:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> Gold could cease to exist and it would only minimally affect my life.
[23:22:19] <crutchy> empires rise on the back of gold, and they fall on the scarcity of gold
[23:22:55] <nick> "Economists approximate pleasure to the idea of utility – a measure of relative satisfaction from consumption of goods." - Bureau of Labour Statistics
[23:22:58] <crutchy> AndyTheAbsurd, if gold ceased to exist, most of the technology you're using couldn't be replaced
[23:23:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Andy, gold rocks as an engineering material
[23:23:11] <nick> sorry Labor*
[23:23:26] <crutchy> nick, we spell labour with a u too :)
[23:23:32] <crutchy> silly yanks :p
[23:23:35] <Ethanol-fueled> wirebonding, pretty much anything that needs to conduct efficiently without corroding overnight
[23:24:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Economics is pure voodoo. Other than the most basic aspects like supply/demand it's all fucking voodoo
[23:24:11] <crutchy> yeah lot of things are gold plated nowadays
[23:24:31] <Ethanol-fueled> and rightly so - when money's involved, the temptation to manipulate is too great.
[23:24:40] <crutchy> true
[23:24:51] <crutchy> gold markets are totally rigged
[23:24:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Students to Build a Third Space Debris Observation Satellite - http://sylnt.us - space-garbageman-is-my-next-job
[23:25:14] <crutchy> though i reckon china is a big manipulator too
[23:25:17] <Ethanol-fueled> everything is totally rigged.
[23:25:17] <nick> if gold was such a great thing to buy
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[23:25:27] <nick> there wouldn't be a thousand people on every corner of the internet
[23:25:32] <nick> trying to sell it to everyone and their dog
[23:25:58] <crutchy> gold would be a good hedge if you could actually take posession, verify and hold onto till you could use it when needed
[23:26:02] <nick> there wouldn't be a dozen editorials every day printed trying to persuade people it's a good idea.
[23:26:04] <crutchy> that's pretty much impossible though
[23:26:20] <Ethanol-fueled> SOME investment is a necessary evil, like a 401K, but if I had Jew golds to hoard I wouldn't "invest" them unless it was building a nuke-proof impenetrable fortress on an island somewhere
[23:26:40] <nick> crutchy: agreed. it's a reasonable hedge to make, but not something you should sink everything into
[23:26:46] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, i think that's why the smart ones are investing offshore
[23:27:04] <crutchy> like in countries not doing business with the US as much
[23:27:14] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, nick, I don't invest but from what I understand when you "buy gold" or "buy silver" you only get a certificate for it, correct?
[23:27:21] <crutchy> yup
[23:27:24] <nick> Ethanol-fueled: most of the time yeah
[23:27:34] <crutchy> you can buy bullion, but you gotta be in the right circles
[23:27:42] <Tramtrist> apmex.com or texasmetals.com
[23:27:42] <nick> if you actually want real gold, you'll pay a huge premium for newly minted 'coins'
[23:27:47] <chromas> cash4gold
[23:27:55] <crutchy> and you gotta know if you're actually buying bullion or just gold-plated lead :p
[23:27:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck that. You gimme the bar and if it fails testing under modern scientific instruments, I'm shooting you dead.
[23:28:25] <nick> better off picking up jewellery and such things if you want it as a rainy day fund
[23:28:39] <Ethanol-fueled> The only solution is to be a criminal.
[23:28:39] <Tramtrist> finding 22kt gold jewlery is not easy as it sounds
[23:28:48] <crutchy> nick, probably. but that's the stuff that was confiscated in the 30's
[23:28:58] <Ethanol-fueled> A robber-baron. And we, the USA, are gonna ROB THE WORLD BLIND
[23:29:12] <crutchy> fort knox was originally filled with gold made from jewellery of US citizens
[23:29:32] <chromas> so was the golden calf
[23:29:35] <nick> if the world comes to a situation where people are using gold for transactions, it's not going to be that tightly controlled
[23:29:47] <chromas> the jew elry
[23:29:54] <nick> and the people holding the gold are probably not going to have the best leverage over people with the resources
[23:30:00] <crutchy> true
[23:30:06] <nick> you cant eat or drink your precious gold will come into play quite quickly
[23:30:14] <crutchy> gold is beyond the means for most people
[23:30:18] <chromas> moses made the jews drink gold
[23:30:29] <chromas> it's in the bible
[23:30:34] <nick> as said, it's a reasonable hedge, but it's not a safe bet without a lot of other resources to protect it
[23:30:38] <Tramtrist> until 1964 we still used silver
[23:30:43] <Tramtrist> not that far fetched imo
[23:30:44] <crutchy> gold is so valuable and so powerful that normal people simply can't hold onto it with any certainty
[23:31:04] <crutchy> you gotta have your own army to defend it
[23:31:15] <nick> pretty much
[23:31:28] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, that's both racist AND anti-Semitic.
[23:31:30] <nick> and even that doesn't work, as discovered in WW2
[23:31:54] <crutchy> chromas, that's why moses had some heavy dudes
[23:31:57] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: it's in the jewish part of the bible so you know it's true
[23:32:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Tramtrist, silver conducs better than gold, but it tarnishes.
[23:32:34] <crutchy> silver is better for currency i think
[23:32:42] <Tramtrist> ya
[23:32:43] <nick> crutchy: agreed
[23:32:54] <chromas> moses receives commandments about not killing; comes down, sees party; makes people kill each other, grind up golden calf and drink it in their water. All factual man
[23:32:54] <Tramtrist> like i said better to have a little of evertthing
[23:32:56] <Tramtrist> within reason
[23:33:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> shit, I need to actually read more of the Bible.
[23:33:28] <Tramtrist> when i get back to the US i planon taking out a few thousand cash just to have
[23:33:31] <crutchy> any coinage material is probably ok. even iron ore can't be inflated to infinity :p
[23:33:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> apparently it's full of all sorts of fucked up stuff.
[23:33:42] <nick> USD are accepted globally
[23:33:51] <chromas> AndyTheAbsurd: the pedo shit that guy posts on the internet is in there too
[23:33:56] <Tramtrist> was stuck in cambodia without a valid visa to vietnam and almost no money
[23:34:00] <Tramtrist> learned my lesson really quick
[23:34:05] <crutchy> nick, apparently in some african countries you can go to prison for using USD
[23:34:09] <Tramtrist> literally had exactly the amount i needed to get on the plain
[23:34:16] <Tramtrist> plane*
[23:34:17] <Tramtrist> geez
[23:34:20] <nick> that's not something i'd heard
[23:34:27] <nick> but i'd imagine they're not the most tourist friendly countries
[23:34:37] <Tramtrist> haha shit if you take out more than 5K in the US you're already on the list
[23:34:56] <crutchy> http://www.wsj.com
[23:34:56] <snowfire> ^ 03Africans Chase Away Almighty Dollar - WSJ
[23:34:59] <Tramtrist> thats with banks.. not sure about credit unions
[23:35:06] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, the golden bull on Wall Street is pretty hilarious
[23:35:08] <nick> think it's $10,000 but there are obviously various flags involved which means it can go down to less
[23:36:45] <nick> thanks for the link, crutchy
[23:37:18] <crutchy> i saw it on a youtube vid about the history of gold
[23:37:33] <crutchy> that was just the first link i googled that wasn't from zero hedge :p
[23:38:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> nick: I was involved in banking a few years banking; yeah, there's an automatic flag for transactions over $10K and banks are supposed to flag people for what looks like "structuring" but that can be hard to detect if they're smart about it.
[23:38:19] <nick> i read ZH, and as i said before, i'm sure the tyler's don't read half of what they publish
[23:38:27] <nick> but the rest of it often makes up for it.
[23:38:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Andy I've heard that the limit has since been reduced to like 3K, any confirmation?
[23:38:57] <crutchy> i personally don't trust zh any less than wsj
[23:39:01] <nick> Ethanol-fueled: that's what i meant about the flags
[23:39:02] <crutchy> but heh
[23:39:23] <nick> if it's suspicious activity for you, suddenly you're drawing out thousands, when the most you normally draw is a few hundred over a month
[23:39:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> Dunno, I'm out of that world for...well, effectively almost two years now, since that was when my last required training was on it.
[23:39:38] <chromas> flaggots
[23:39:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, but I've heard that the flags are for ridiculously low amounts now. That's like, a loan to a friend in need or something.
[23:40:06] <crutchy> AndyTheAbsurd, i think the problem is that most bankers have been brought up on keyne's bullshit and don't know enough about gold
[23:40:06] <Ethanol-fueled> WSJ is Foxnews-tier
[23:40:38] <Ethanol-fueled> But still entertaining to read, Better than most local crap.
[23:40:59] <crutchy> gold is different to other commodities. it's probably one of the few metals that countries have gone to war for
[23:41:17] <nick> it's about perspective, things like Fox and the WSJ are worth reading, not because they're informative
[23:41:25] <nick> but because they can help you understand all the levels of bullshit
[23:41:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup.
[23:41:45] <crutchy> they're good for trying to understand why brainwashed people are like they are :p
[23:41:54] <nick> pretty much
[23:41:57] <Ethanol-fueled> because they accept it blindly as gospel.
[23:42:14] <crutchy> ~weather
[23:42:16] <exec> 02Traralgon VIC - currently 20°C, partly cloudy, wind W at 8 km/h, humidity 78% - Saturday mostly sunny (16°C:36°C), Sunday partly cloudy (11°C:24°C), Monday partly cloudy (13°C:24°C), Tuesday scattered showers (11°C:19°C)
[23:42:17] <nick> part of the reason i read the Daily Mail is because i know both my mom and my grandparents
[23:42:20] <nick> read it every fucking day
[23:42:24] <crutchy> pfft. 20 my arse
[23:42:32] <nick> the grandparents have had a subscription longer than ive been alive
[23:42:47] <Ethanol-fueled> who does exec belong to? change that godawful color, please!
[23:42:55] <Ethanol-fueled> It's hard to read in my mom's basement
[23:42:58] <nick> to them it's just "the paper" and then there's "the liberal bias bbc trash"
[23:43:21] <crutchy> ~weather-prefs color 04
[23:43:22] <exec> successfully saved prefs
[23:43:25] <crutchy> ~weather
[23:43:27] <exec> 04Traralgon VIC - currently 20°C, partly cloudy, wind W at 8 km/h, humidity 78% - Saturday mostly sunny (16°C:36°C), Sunday partly cloudy (11°C:24°C), Monday partly cloudy (13°C:24°C), Tuesday scattered showers (11°C:19°C)
[23:43:29] <crutchy> :D
[23:43:38] <Ethanol-fueled> That's better, if not a bit hot.
[23:43:51] * chromas blames Ethanol-fueled's color palette
[23:43:53] * Ethanol-fueled should know who exec belongs to by memory
[23:43:58] <Tramtrist> ~weather detroit
[23:44:00] <exec> 10Detroit, MI, USA - currently 18°F / -8°C, partly cloudy, wind NW at 14 mph, humidity 62% - Friday snow showers (6°F:25°F / -14°C:-4°C), Saturday cloudy (6°F:16°F / -14°C:-9°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (16°F:18°F / -9°C:-8°C), Monday snow showers (24°F:37°F / -4°C:3°C)
[23:44:06] <chromas> You left your memory in your other bottle
[23:44:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather Saint Petersburg, FL
[23:44:21] <exec> 10St Petersburg, FL, USA - currently 64°F / 18°C, clear, wind SW at 6 mph, humidity 71% - Friday clear with periodic clouds (58°F:67°F / 14°C:19°C), Saturday sunny (47°F:63°F / 8°C:17°C), Sunday mostly sunny (55°F:68°F / 13°C:20°C), Monday scattered showers (62°F:74°F / 17°C:23°C)
[23:44:29] <crutchy> ~say <#> tama, Ethanol-fueled is colorist
[23:44:34] <Tramtrist> not looking forward to midwest weather
[23:44:40] <Tramtrist> finally started to warm up here in nagoya
[23:44:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> this is cool for St. Pete; it will be cold (by St Pete standards) by morning.
[23:45:32] <Ethanol-fueled> ~weather san diego, ca
[23:45:34] <exec> 10San Diego, CA, USA - currently 73°F / 23°C, mostly sunny, wind NW at 10 mph, humidity 31% - Friday clear (54°F:78°F / 12°C:26°C), Saturday sunny (53°F:73°F / 12°C:23°C), Sunday sunny (56°F:78°F / 13°C:26°C), Monday sunny (58°F:80°F / 14°C:27°C)
[23:45:46] * nick doesn't want to be left out
[23:45:49] <nick> ~weather
[23:45:51] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 39°F / 4°C, clear with periodic clouds, wind E at 6 mph, humidity 87% - Friday partly cloudy (36°F:42°F / 2°C:6°C), Saturday showers (37°F:44°F / 3°C:7°C), Sunday showers (34°F:43°F / 1°C:6°C), Monday mostly sunny (31°F:46°F / -1°C:8°C)
[23:47:14] <Ethanol-fueled> The news says San Diego is going to have a "heat wave"
[23:47:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Bahahah.
[23:48:12] <SirFinkus> ~weather
[23:48:14] <exec> 10Olympia, WA, USA - currently 56°F / 13°C, partly cloudy, wind SW at 8 mph, humidity 67% - Friday showers (42°F:55°F / 6°C:13°C), Saturday rain (45°F:49°F / 7°C:9°C), Sunday rain (50°F:53°F / 10°C:12°C), Monday showers (46°F:54°F / 8°C:12°C)
[23:48:30] <SirFinkus> was pouring this morning and all night last night
[23:48:43] <SirFinkus> our road was flooded over
[23:48:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> tipsy quadcopter flying = fun AND hilarious.
[23:49:13] <takyon> hi ethanol-sapiens
[23:50:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Yo.
[23:50:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> Hi takyon
[23:50:46] <takyon> I'm impressed by the response on the Portland article
[23:51:36] * nick goes to look
[23:51:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Typical EF insughtfulness interspersed wtih racism and trash-talk.
[23:52:05] <Ethanol-fueled> So you kinda want to mod it up, but not too much.
[23:52:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Bahaha.
[23:52:20] <takyon> well it's a lot of patella whack character
[23:52:27] <nick> Ethanol-fueled: do you not post on ZH because of the competition for the racism trash-talking?
[23:52:37] <takyon> and Michael David Crawford getting #real
[23:52:53] * nick had to assume MDC would make an appearance on the story
[23:53:02] <Ethanol-fueled> nick, I don't post on ZH because that's just not my scene.
[23:53:31] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't really have anything insightful or interesting to say nowadays anyway.
[23:53:37] <SirFinkus> oh, quote for my anthro class
[23:53:50] <SirFinkus> we shouldn't try to "impose egalitarianism" on muslim women
[23:53:51] <takyon> my grammar and spelling is starting to slip tremendously. that's a sign of mental illness, right?
[23:54:00] <Ethanol-fueled> nick, I am amused at Zerohedge's racism policy, though, Bahaha.
[23:54:10] <nick> what does it say
[23:54:34] <Ethanol-fueled> takyon, it might be a sign of reliance on autocorrect. That's been known to degrade writing skills.
[23:54:38] * SirFinkus is listening to Ripple — I Don't Know What It Is But It Sure Is Funky, from the album Ripple
[23:54:44] <nick> "racism will not be tolerated against middle aged angry white men with gold buried in the yard?"
[23:55:05] <takyon> maybe I just need a nap
[23:55:18] <takyon> but I'm going to submit the story about Internet Archive and Windows 3.1 games first
[23:55:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Go for it, bro.
[23:56:21] <takyon> this is the only fun and stable game I found: https://archive.org
[23:56:21] <snowfire> ^✓* 03Pipe Dream : Free Download Streaming : Internet Archive
[23:57:09] <takyon> the gameplay of Pipe Dream and its clones is so simple and so good
[23:58:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, I feel bad for you...having the misfortune of being in college at the 101 level nowadays.
[23:58:44] <nick> does archive.org get a free pass on running windows on emulators to serve people free software through a browser?
[23:58:51] <Ethanol-fueled> 10 years ago at the 101 level you could learn something without the "privilege" SJW nonsense getting in the way.
[23:59:12] <Tramtrist> i was just thinking about skifree too
[23:59:15] <Tramtrist> couple days ago
[23:59:20] <Tramtrist> and then there it was in dosbox
[23:59:26] <Tramtrist> weird
[23:59:51] <SirFinkus> I don't think I have to take any more "diversity" classes, at least after this class