#Soylent | Logs for 2016-02-10

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[00:00:04] <chromas> http://hackles.org
[00:00:04] <snowfire> ^ 03Hackles Cartoon Archive
[00:00:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Australia Fires 110 Climate Researchers - http://sylnt.us - what-they-don't-find-won't-bother-us...for-now
[00:01:57] <Gravis> hmm... with present technology, i think you could actually make some convincing faux windows in an underground bunker
[00:02:01] <cmn32480> chromas - anythign you want em to add to the ~gday script?
[00:03:07] <chromas> hehe, how about a Gravis Ultrasound, so Gravis gets random pings :D
[00:03:19] <cmn32480> done.
[00:03:22] <Gravis> -_-
[00:03:42] <chromas> I had some ideas awhile back. I should make a list
[00:03:53] <cmn32480> yep
[00:03:59] <cmn32480> you make the liskt... I'll make the change
[00:04:24] <Gravis> cmn32480: then add "chromas" to the list too so taht he gets randome pings too. it's only fair
[00:04:38] <cmn32480> hilariously, it is in a code comment to "Make these editable from IRC"
[00:04:46] <chromas> If anyone would even want to toss me around. I'm not a sound card though
[00:04:59] <cmn32480> fiar 'nuff Gravis
[00:05:06] * chromas tosses his salad
[00:05:19] <cmn32480> chromas answered my next quewstion
[00:05:29] <cmn32480> "a Chromas tossed salad"
[00:06:05] * chromas scratches his glasshole
[00:07:21] <chromas> How many add commands would it need?
[00:07:28] <chromas> ~g'day glasscrack
[00:07:34] <chromas> oh yeah
[00:07:57] <chromas> it'd need one for at least a container and a substance
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[00:08:22] <chromas> ~g'day glasscrack
[00:08:33] <cmn32480> ruh rih
[00:08:54] <chromas> it's old man Jenkins again
[00:09:16] <cmn32480> heh
[00:09:19] <cmn32480> I broke it!
[00:09:40] <chromas> ooh, unexpected beer
[00:09:44] <cmn32480> ~g'day glasscrack
[00:09:52] <chromas> exec isn't used to drinking I guess
[00:10:20] <cmn32480> ~g'day glasscrack
[00:10:21] * exec abnormally drops a coffee++ mug of ciri poo on glasscrack
[00:10:28] <cmn32480> missed a "
[00:10:35] <cmn32480> stupid programming languange conventions
[00:11:14] <cmn32480> ~gday gravis
[00:11:16] * exec accidentally hurls a cheap plastic cup of spew at gravis
[00:11:32] <cmn32480> we'll see... it takes a while t get the new ones some times
[00:11:44] <cmn32480> ~rpc
[00:12:05] <cmn32480> ~rps
[00:12:06] <exec> syntax: ~rps [ranks|r|p|s]
[00:12:06] <exec> rankings: http://ix.io
[00:12:06] <exec> help: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[00:13:28] <cmn32480> ~rps chromas
[00:13:29] <exec> syntax: ~rps [ranks|r|p|s]
[00:13:29] <exec> rankings: http://ix.io
[00:13:29] <exec> help: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[00:14:04] <cmn32480> ~rps [1|r]
[00:14:05] <exec> syntax: ~rps [ranks|r|p|s]
[00:14:05] <exec> rankings: http://ix.io
[00:14:05] <exec> help: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[00:14:08] <chromas> ~rps rs
[00:14:11] <exec> currently @ highest turn - rank for chromas: 1 - http://ix.io
[00:14:18] <cmn32480> ~rps rr
[00:14:22] <exec> scored a win - rank for cmn32480: 1 - http://ix.io
[00:14:44] <chromas> weird way to play rps. /me blames upsidedownland
[00:14:44] <cmn32480> OOOO divide by zero errors
[00:15:03] <cmn32480> very
[00:15:18] <cmn32480> ~tell crutchy - your RPS game is odd...
[00:15:19] <exec> message saved
[00:15:32] <cmn32480> ok
[00:15:38] <cmn32480> exec is on the newest code.
[00:15:43] <chromas> I figured it'd have us PM our hand position then announce the winner after all players submit
[00:15:53] <cmn32480> took an hourt
[00:16:09] <cmn32480> 'cuz I been drinkin
[00:16:27] <chromas> drinkin' lag's
[00:17:52] <cmn32480> but I still dont' show on the folding team
[00:18:20] <cmn32480> WTF?
[00:18:32] <cmn32480> morons at Stanford or is it my druk ass?
[00:18:35] <cmn32480> nevermind
[00:19:21] <chromas> You have to complete a Work Unit first
[00:19:26] <cmn32480> I did
[00:19:32] <cmn32480> just a few minutes ago
[00:19:57] <chromas> Did you check the team id? :D
[00:20:21] <cmn32480> yes... after I noticed that I f'd the pooch on it the first time
[00:20:22] * chromas is at the top. nobody can beat me!!!
[00:20:45] * cmn32480 will fire up that server tomorrow and leave chromas in the disease fighting dust!
[00:21:21] <chromas> Where's Khyber when we need him?
[00:21:29] <cmn32480> jail last I heard
[00:21:39] <chromas> Need 400TB/s of Folding
[00:22:41] <cmn32480> lol
[00:23:06] <cmn32480> the folding site says I am 64bit
[00:23:23] <cmn32480> Linux UbuntuTest 3.13.0-77-generic #121-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 20 10:50:59 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:23:33] * chromas should overclock everathang just for faster folding
[00:23:34] <cmn32480> I dont' see what you told em to look for chromas
[00:23:40] <cmn32480> it is a celron
[00:23:44] * cmn32480 thinks not
[00:23:57] <chromas> i686 would be 32-bit
[00:24:11] <cmn32480> that's what I think
[00:24:17] <cmn32480> the folding site says 64
[00:24:45] <chromas> it's stanford; probably triggered by 32-bit
[00:24:53] <chromas> so they just censor it
[00:25:07] <cmn32480> did I commit a micro aggression byu haveing a 32-bit OS?
[00:25:31] <chromas> it's transphobic
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[00:27:18] <chromas> /nick MiracleWhip
[00:29:08] <cmn32480> crap.. I forgot how bad exec's box SUCKS
[00:29:21] <cmn32480> 4 days to a work Unit
[00:29:57] * cmn32480 seriously considers a p2v and giving exec some REAL horsepower
[00:30:04] <cmn32480> ooo dinner!
[00:30:08] <cmn32480> back later
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[01:00:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Michigan Senate Passes Bill Making Sodomy Punishable by 15 Years in Prison - http://sylnt.us - bugger-off
[01:05:11] <SirFinkus> welcome to the botnet cmn32480
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[01:18:00] <SirFinkus> you're kicking my ass chromas
[01:31:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Google Plans to Fight Extremism Through Search Advertising - http://sylnt.us - extremely-good-search
[01:34:46] <paulej72> OK what did I miss
[01:35:03] <SirFinkus> idk, I just got in myself
[01:35:06] <paulej72> I have been working on moderation redirects
[01:40:14] <SirFinkus> sounds exciting
[01:40:31] * SirFinkus clicks the "would you like to know more?" button
[01:41:18] <SirFinkus> THE ONLY GOOD BUG IS A DEAD BUG
[01:44:55] <chromas> SirFinkus: the Soylent url needs a fixin'
[01:45:03] <SirFinkus> I KNOW
[01:45:08] <SirFinkus> the fucking site is the worst shit ever
[01:46:00] <SirFinkus> Verified that team 'SoylentNews.org' exists
[01:46:00] <SirFinkus> TEAM NUMBER: 230319
[01:46:00] <SirFinkus> TEAM NAME: 'SoylentNews.org' replaces 'SoylentNews.org'
[01:46:00] <SirFinkus> HOMEPAGE: 'soylentnews.org' replaces 'https://soylentnews.org'
[01:46:01] <snowfire> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[01:46:12] <SirFinkus> it's bugged
[01:46:20] <SirFinkus> I've tried every permutation I could
[01:46:37] <SirFinkus> and it always does the http://https thing
[01:47:08] <SirFinkus> I'm hoping it's a caching thing
[01:47:28] <SirFinkus> and that it'll be fixed in about 10 minutes
[01:56:51] <SirFinkus> fixed chromas
[01:56:55] * mrcoolbp flings a bucked of foo at SirFinkus
[01:57:08] <chromas> Neat
[01:57:24] * chromas likes this 👍
[01:57:54] <mrcoolbp> = )
[01:58:50] <SirFinkus> what's a bucked?
[01:59:13] <SirFinkus> the team update page is terrible, you need to re-enter all the information to update one field
[01:59:39] <chromas> And sometimes the server doesn't respond
[02:00:12] <takyon> i will be impressed if I can get the folding@home or whatever working on my android device
[02:00:19] * SirFinkus needs to add his desktop to it
[02:00:27] <SirFinkus> the power of the core2duo
[02:00:37] <takyon> I've done it in the past, but I think it's linked to World Community Grid and not sure if I can pick the SoylentNews team
[02:03:12] <swiss> <insert tacheon based joke here>
[02:05:22] <takyon> any project I decide to donate cycles to will be finished yesterday
[02:13:37] <paulej72> ok I have both new comments and moderation doing redirects back to the point you were. I have the mod going back to the button you pushed not the necessarily the comment you were on.
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[02:16:57] <cmn32480> sirfinkus - I got it running on a celron
[02:17:03] <cmn32480> same box as exec'
[02:17:09] <SirFinkus> nice
[02:17:22] <cmn32480> full bore... day and a half per work unit
[02:17:39] <cmn32480> on my work laptop... <4hours
[02:17:41] <SirFinkus> I've got an atom crunching away
[02:17:57] <cmn32480> but my work laptop is an i7
[02:17:59] <SirFinkus> 3 days a work unit
[02:19:24] <paulej72> we are making exec slow for fah
[02:19:36] <SirFinkus> exec is slow anyway
[02:19:43] <cmn32480> ~gday paulej72
[02:19:45] * exec dexterously tosses a socket of splodge to paulej72
[02:19:52] <cmn32480> that isn't too bad... mostly
[02:20:24] <cmn32480> ~gday paulej72
[02:20:26] * exec spontaneously poops a used franger of g'day juice for paulej72
[02:20:39] <cmn32480> went from full to light... still abotu 4 seconds
[02:20:52] <cmn32480> he's jsut a slow complicated beast
[02:27:09] <Runaway1956> Newsletter from HuffPo titled "A Racist, Sexist Demagogue Just Won The New Hampshire Primary"
[02:27:27] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, are you still here present?
[02:27:29] <Runaway1956> Maybe everyone at HuffPo will stroke out and die? See, Trump has his good side.
[02:27:35] <SirFinkus> yup Deucalion
[02:27:47] <Deucalion> pm?
[02:27:51] <SirFinkus> sure
[02:30:14] <cmn32480> Hillary won?
[02:30:17] <cmn32480> no shit
[02:31:56] <Runaway1956> Haven't even looked for the democrat results yet - only 1/2 cup of coffee down the hatch so far
[02:32:01] <Runaway1956> coff++
[02:32:01] <Bender> karma - coff: 3
[02:32:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Twitter Launches Trust And Safety Council To Help Put End To Trolling - http://sylnt.us - troll-council-to-convene
[02:32:07] <Runaway1956> oops -
[02:32:16] <Runaway1956> coffee++
[02:32:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2190
[02:32:29] <cmn32480> you are obviously not the first one to do that
[02:32:33] <paulej72> ceeffo++
[02:32:33] <Bender> karma - ceeffo: 6
[02:32:56] <Runaway1956> Coffee is a hard word to spell until you've consumed the first cup
[02:32:59] <SirFinkus> thought sanders won
[02:33:02] <cmn32480> yep
[02:33:10] <SirFinkus> according to NYT
[02:33:16] <cmn32480> Sanders - 58.9
[02:33:24] <cmn32480> Clinton - 39.2
[02:33:27] <SirFinkus> the margins looks pretty massive
[02:33:35] <cmn32480> O'Malley - 0.2%
[02:33:38] <Runaway1956> That's good - Trump vs Sanders is a hell of a lot better than Hillary vs Godzilla
[02:33:57] <SirFinkus> I'd take sanders over all the other frontrunners
[02:34:03] <SirFinkus> begrudgingly
[02:35:00] <cmn32480> google's current numbers ar w/ 39% reporting
[02:35:21] <SirFinkus> the margins are so large though
[02:35:38] <cmn32480> not unexpected
[02:35:52] <cmn32480> at least on the Democrat side
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[02:36:51] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard, Bytram: I have my new code running on dev for testing and the code is up in a pull request
[02:37:05] <cmn32480> oooo can we break it?
[02:37:16] <paulej72> go ahead and try
[02:37:27] * cmn32480 gets his bytram-hammer
[02:38:04] <paulej72> I just reset eveyone to 1000 mod points on dev
[02:39:08] <cmn32480> WOOHOO!!! 2000 mod points today!
[02:39:14] * cmn32480 goes on a mod bombing spree
[02:39:27] <paulej72> the clock reset them back to 5
[02:39:37] * cmn32480 hurries
[02:39:46] <paulej72> so I redid the sql command that TMB did this morning
[02:41:13] <paulej72> we need to check all of the themes and make sure the mod buttons are styled correctly
[02:41:51] <cmn32480> paulej72 - found a problem
[02:42:28] <paulej72> yep
[02:42:30] <cmn32480> if I push a button that is NOT the one in the comment I moderated, I get put to the comment where I modded
[02:42:45] <paulej72> that is how i did it
[02:42:46] <cmn32480> sorry
[02:42:52] <takyon> wait, is that a problem?
[02:42:58] <cmn32480> I get put to the comment where I pushed the button
[02:43:06] <paulej72> no that is how I expect it to work
[02:43:07] <cmn32480> my fingers is tired
[02:43:47] <paulej72> if you pushed that button I would expect that you would like to be rutrned somewher close to that spot
[02:44:17] * mrcoolbp pushes it
[02:44:54] <takyon> that's hot
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[03:14:44] <paulej72> Bytram: got goodies on dev for you. I got redirects working for comments and moderation
[03:16:01] <Bytram> redirects?
[03:16:16] <Bytram> oh... moderate and get returned to the last moderated comment?
[03:16:49] <paulej72> no my version returns you to the button you pushed and to your newly minted comment
[03:17:46] <Bytram> what ID to you use as a fragment in the URL? e.g. comment_123456
[03:17:57] <paulej72> yep
[03:18:00] * Bytram supposes he could try a couple and find out.
[03:18:07] <Bytram> nice!
[03:19:22] <Bytram> btw, a long time ago, I'd asked for a style to be applied to a comment indicating it's moderation score, so that I could, for example, use a different color / font / bold / etc. for each moderation score...
[03:19:44] <paulej72> each moderate button contains the id of the div to return to. simple to pull it out of the form vars and use it in the redirect url
[03:19:44] <Bytram> but, that seemed to be placed where other styles were more specific, and so I could never do anything with it.
[03:19:48] <Bytram> do you remember that one?
[03:19:58] <Bytram> nicely done!
[03:20:29] <takyon> bytram: wouldn't that require adjustments for each theme?
[03:20:53] <Bytram> takyon: good question...
[03:21:06] <paulej72> no, but it could be done. I had that in the code at one point, but that may have been some test code
[03:21:39] <Bytram> well, I could do: .score5 {font-size: 110%}
[03:21:48] <Bytram> (or whatever the style name is)
[03:22:13] <cmn32480> font needs to be 350pt and brought to a reasonable level by JS... what are you guys Freaking amateurs?
[03:22:53] <mrcoolbp> Bytram:http://i.imgur.com/bEtJ4uV.gif
[03:22:55] <Bytram> LOL!
[03:23:13] * Bytram clicks, but with some trepidation
[03:23:46] <takyon> whoa
[03:23:52] <takyon> who made that and when
[03:24:06] * Bytram notices the TM symbol on the upper right hand corner of 'news' -- do we have a trademark?
[03:24:17] <Bytram> very kewel
[03:24:18] <mrcoolbp> takyon: I made that this morning
[03:24:19] <cmn32480> mrcoolbp - that is still awesome
[03:24:28] <mrcoolbp> complete with lense flare
[03:24:32] <takyon> we should make a subscribers-only theme for laughs and put that in it
[03:24:43] <takyon> Soylent Premium
[03:24:53] <mrcoolbp> takyon: I heard they were making a geocities theme and was told to make that
[03:24:55] <cmn32480> 4/1 sneak peak!
[03:25:11] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: no idea about the TM
[03:25:11] <Bytram> really neat
[03:25:15] <mrcoolbp> thanks
[03:25:24] <takyon> according to my not-so-legal advice
[03:25:29] <paulej72> Bytram: on the <div id="comment_12345" is a class called scorex with x being a number from -1 to 5
[03:25:31] <Bytram> can you make it rotate about the x axis instead of the y axis?
[03:25:34] <takyon> anyone can use TM, which means unregistered trademark
[03:25:44] <takyon> it's (R) that you can't use legally without it being registered
[03:26:04] <Bytram> was not at all sure, so that's why I put that question out there.
[03:26:10] <mrcoolbp> I need to send this gif to Frogblast
[03:26:18] <mrcoolbp> he'll get a kick out of it
[03:26:45] <Bytram> I bet he would!
[03:26:51] <paulej72> Bytram: That was in the code from 14-04 or 14-06
[03:27:01] <Bytram> nice touch using a virtual light source to get it to shadow and 'glint' as it splins
[03:27:13] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: I can do anything, I made a 3d model
[03:27:13] <Bytram> paulej72: thanks for the info.
[03:28:13] <Bytram> paulej72: point is, that I really appreciate your adding it, but I was unable to make it do anything as it seemed that all the items within the scope of that style had more specific styles of their own.
[03:28:26] <Bytram> or, am I missing somehting and doing it wrong?
[03:30:05] <paulej72> you just need to make your stile more specific or give it an !important
[03:32:01] <paulej72> so if my style is #foo .bar .commment_top h4 you would need #foo .bar .score2 .comment_top h4
[03:32:09] * Bytram despises !important -- it is a 'nuclear', last ditch effort that bypasses the whole specificity scoring system and, so far as I can tell, only makes problems down the road
[03:32:29] <Gravis> TPM 1.2 (Trusted Platform Module) is a joke. TPM 2.0 is barely sufficient.
[03:34:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Bytram
[03:34:06] * MrPlow smakes Bytram upside the head with a printout of the rehash source
[03:34:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> you'll use !important and like it!
[03:34:37] * Bytram failed to notice any sense being smaked into him
[03:34:39] <Gravis> !important what?
[03:34:48] <Gravis> ~important what?
[03:34:51] <Gravis> #important what?
[03:35:06] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[03:35:07] <paulej72> CSS !important override
[03:35:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i lurve it. it's the "don't fucking argue with me" flag.
[03:36:06] <paulej72> until I use it again two lines down to override my override
[03:36:34] <Gravis> hmm... it has a bad name
[03:36:43] <Gravis> it should be something like "final"
[03:37:06] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: i got moderation and comment redirects working now on dev
[03:37:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i thought that too but mostly because ! means not in every other language worth a damn.
[03:37:16] <Gravis> but "!important" translates to "not important" :P
[03:37:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> you da man, yo. will peruse the pull in the morning.
[03:37:38] <paulej72> yea all of the other css lines for this is not important
[03:37:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> shameful waste of a perfectly good branch name though
[03:38:08] <paulej72> can be reused
[03:38:43] <paulej72> I could resubmit mine with the branc name of silly_titty_fuck
[03:38:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. gonna see if i can find any quick n easy bugs to fix before friday that we can send out with the features.
[03:39:10] <Gravis> or maybe just "priority"
[03:39:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> but that's for the AM when i've got lots of stims in me.
[03:39:29] <Gravis> but "!important" seems like an idiot came up with it
[03:40:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it's part of the unholy mess that is css, so that's a fair assumption.
[03:43:17] <takyon> what's happening
[03:43:40] <Gravis> takyon: i'm pulling my teeth out
[03:43:40] <takyon> !important really is a terrible name, but it's with us forever
[03:44:31] <takyon> I guess you could think of it as "Remember all those fancy CSS rules and shit? They're !important, look at this one instead."
[03:44:35] <Gravis> takyon: i say they are my teeth but they used to belong to someone else. debts will be paid in full.
[03:46:53] <Gravis> takyon: word of advice: do no borrow money that you cannot pay back.
[03:47:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> oof, they put bloody feminist frequency on their new "trust and safety council" over at twitter.
[03:47:18] <takyon> thanks. I guess you are being hunted down, huh?
[03:47:23] <takyon> is there a bounty on you yet?
[03:47:47] <takyon> TheMightyBuzzard: it's what the community they want wants
[03:48:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> they stuffed it so full of anti-speech hugbox people that there was just no room left over for anyone who wanted to advocate for free speech.
[03:48:40] <takyon> if they want to limit trolling, limiting free speech is somewhat necessary
[03:49:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not trolling they want to limit, it's dissent.
[03:50:08] <takyon> trolling is dissent if you want to operate a hugbox
[03:50:12] <takyon> or increase revenues
[03:50:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, their stock price dropping like a stone directly coincides with their pushes towards only allowing social justice positions.
[03:51:59] <takyon> I think it has more to do with their long term profitability, user base growth, and monetization, especially in comparison to Facebook
[03:52:25] <takyon> along with the amount of time spent on the platform per user on average
[03:52:39] <chromas> Yeah, they don't want profits
[03:52:41] <takyon> they see ineffective tools to deal with trolling as driving people off
[03:54:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft, look at the composition of the hugbox council. there's no way in hell it's anything but a political statement.
[03:54:54] <takyon> Twitter has added capabilities to make it easier to block trolls in the last year or so
[03:55:16] <takyon> like the one that allows you to share/subscribe to blocklists that just keep on growing
[03:55:45] <cmn32480> tmb is on most of them
[03:55:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[03:56:02] <takyon> the hugbox council isn't just a political statement, it's also a group that will be pushing ideas that Twitter will then implement
[03:56:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> and not for trolling
[03:56:18] <takyon> for indecent exposure
[03:56:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> for daring to question, in a reasonable manner, a feminist or three.
[03:57:45] <chromas> Or following someone else on the block list
[03:58:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i had to get blocked on my own. it was disappointing.
[03:59:13] <takyon> are you firing off or referring to an actually interesting experiment you conducted
[03:59:39] <takyon> a little social sciences if you would
[04:03:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Job Automation Continues Apace in the USA and India - http://sylnt.us - efficiency-for-you
[04:06:13] <Gravis> <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, their stock price dropping like a stone directly coincides with their pushes towards only allowing social justice positions.
[04:06:13] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i find that hard to believe since they are privately funded.
[04:06:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> twitter? are you on the drugs?
[04:06:49] <Gravis> oh i thought we were talking about github
[04:06:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, roger
[04:07:38] <Gravis> oh yeah, twitter is going down in flames.
[04:09:04] <Gravis> "trust and safety council"? sounds like the digital SS to me.
[04:09:44] <cmn32480> that was the one headed by a diversity consultant I think
[04:09:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, basically
[04:11:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds surprisingly like the big talking head guys in 1984
[04:11:13] <Gravis> takyon: the community they want will flee to the new place that has injustices that makes them "can't even"
[04:11:49] <takyon> that's so problematic
[04:12:11] <chromas> Professional victimhood
[04:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's the fun thing about snowflakes. they don't create anything, only destroy.
[04:12:47] <Gravis> well... it's more of, "my friends are over here so i'm going there too!"
[04:13:01] <cmn32480> they created a fort in my front yard when we had 30+iinches of them
[04:13:07] <Gravis> when it becomes a place they like, nobody else likes it
[04:13:20] <Gravis> so they go somewhere else
[04:13:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, ya but you had to stomp and beat on them to get it to happen though
[04:13:39] <Gravis> and the cycle of "can't even"ing restarts
[04:13:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> which, all in all, i don't object to for the human variety
[04:13:50] <cmn32480> yeah.. but the kids rebounds from being stomped and beat on
[04:16:38] <Gravis> wait, i got it!
[04:16:59] <Gravis> ok... so the new place only lets people in based on what they had posted at the old place
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[04:17:30] <Gravis> if they have problems on twitter then they are excluded from the new place
[04:17:44] <Gravis> thusly, are relagated to staying on twitter
[04:18:30] <takyon> sometimes a platform can just transcend everything and include all kinds of groups that hate each other
[04:18:31] <Gravis> relegated*
[04:18:33] <takyon> like Disqus
[04:18:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was gonna say like the internet
[04:18:57] <cmn32480> ~gnight ya bastards
[04:18:59] * exec allegedly slides a DD cup of boogers to ya
[04:19:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> f'kof
[04:19:10] <Gravis> that's because it's segragated by locations
[04:19:38] <Gravis> people cannot all be in one location
[04:19:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah, that's why irc doesn't scale
[04:19:57] <takyon> but they could try
[04:20:15] <Gravis> takyon: yeah, they did... and twitter
[04:21:19] <takyon> I'm done. I can't even.
[04:21:22] <Gravis> LOL
[04:21:39] <Gravis> ⌨ █▬▬◟(`ﮧ´ ◟ ) Rage Quit!!!
[04:21:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> you CAN allow all people to be in one location. you just don't try to make them like each other.
[04:22:21] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: indeed they will be eternally unhappy
[04:22:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> like us. we bite n claw n spit n tear at each other all the time and lurve it.
[04:22:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> the site, not you n myself.
[04:23:02] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: but what if there is a "safe space" for some people and a normal place for everyone else?
[04:23:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> fux dat
[04:23:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> safety is kryptonite to liberty.
[04:23:49] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: the two places would be segregated
[04:24:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't create a safe space then
[04:24:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> simple
[04:24:21] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: because you disagree with them?
[04:24:39] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you wish for them to suffer?
[04:25:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nobody should ever be safe from correction or criticism
[04:25:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> evar
[04:25:19] * mrcoolbp heads to bed
[04:25:58] * Bytram waves goodnight to mrcoolbp
[04:27:10] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: ok... then... what if... it's actually and elaborate trap? ;)
[04:27:16] <paulej72> evyone is taling too fast I can't keep up
[04:27:31] <Gravis> an*
[04:28:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll save you some reading and head to bed shortly
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[05:01:20] <Bytram|away> !uid
[05:01:21] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6111, owned by Gary Olson
[05:01:24] <Bytram|away> LOL!
[05:01:36] <Bytram|away> ~weather boston
[05:01:38] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 23°F / -5°C, clear, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 65% - Tuesday clear with periodic clouds (20°F:30°F / -7°C:-1°C), Wednesday snow showers (22°F:39°F / -6°C:4°C), Thursday cloudy (9°F:31°F / -13°C:-1°C), Friday partly cloudy (16°F:27°F / -9°C:-3°C)
[05:01:40] <Bytram|away> ~weather portland, me
[05:01:42] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 16°F / -9°C, cloudy, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 82% - Tuesday partly cloudy (14°F:26°F / -10°C:-3°C), Wednesday cloudy (22°F:37°F / -6°C:3°C), Thursday snow showers (4°F:32°F / -16°C:0°C), Friday mostly sunny (10°F:25°F / -12°C:-4°C)
[05:01:45] <Bytram|away> ~weather presque isle
[05:01:47] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 15°F / -9°C, cloudy, wind N at 7 mph, humidity 88% - Tuesday snow showers (3°F:19°F / -16°C:-7°C), Wednesday cloudy (10°F:29°F / -12°C:-2°C), Thursday mostly cloudy (-2°F:26°F / -19°C:-3°C), Friday partly cloudy (-8°F:9°F / -22°C:-13°C)
[05:34:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Create Nanoscale Integrated Optical Switch - http://sylnt.us - going-to-the-light
[05:44:45] <dyingtolive> man i can't believe that tomorrow will be only wed. what the fuck is wrong with time?
[05:47:11] <dyingtolive> god people are so stupid. google "something is wrong with" and it autocompletes to "my social security number", "me", "aunt diane" and "my baby". other than "my social security number" all of that seems like trivial bullshit. what about time?
[05:49:11] <dyingtolive> you finish the search for time and you get a video about someone biching about how the sun is slightly off from 5 years ago, complete with shaky blurry cam and no context at all.
[05:50:12] <dyingtolive> all other links are to unrelated stuff, like the definition of 'anachronism' per wikipedia.
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[07:17:40] <crutchy> ~rps rrrrrr
[07:17:42] <exec> additional sequence trimmed to: rrr
[07:17:45] <exec> currently @ highest turn - rank for crutchy: 1 - http://ix.io
[07:18:08] <crutchy> hmm
[07:19:05] <crutchy> ~tell cmn32480 rps game doesn't seem to work as well as it did in testing. that must be like a law of nature or something
[07:19:07] <exec> message saved
[07:21:32] <crutchy> ~tell cmn32480 just wondering if you also got a new copy of lib_http.php since the ix.io paste function has been added in there. forgotted to mention that before sorry. not sure if that's what its borking on but the paste doesn't seem to be changing so seems to suggest maybe that function might be missing
[07:21:34] <exec> message saved
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[08:37:46] <crutchy> from the anyone-who-knows-mccain-is-not-surprised-at-all dept.
[08:45:12] <crutchy> as much as ol' bernie's socialist economic views are a bit whacko, this made me smile https://www.youtube.com
[08:45:13] <snowfire> ^ 03Senator Sanders asks Bernanke WHERE IS THE MONEY - YouTube
[09:31:12] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[09:31:12] <snowfire> ^ 03GOP Debate Trump flails when asked about nuclear triad - YouTube
[09:31:30] <crutchy> from the wtf-retard dept.
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[10:27:43] <Thouren> Morning guys
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[10:38:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - You Can Train Your Body Into Thinking It’s Had Medicine - http://sylnt.us - does-medicine-include-coffee
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[11:32:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:32:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2191
[11:59:02] <qkontinuum> bacon++
[11:59:03] <Bender> karma - bacon: 307
[11:59:03] <qkontinuum> http://www.bunicomic.com
[11:59:05] <snowfire> ^ 03Buni » Buni
[12:00:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> bacon? before coffee? are you ill?
[12:00:54] <qkontinuum> Different timezone :-) Had coffee before logging in. (Also I try to hide my coffee addiction by not always commenting...)
[12:06:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's sick and wrong.
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[12:09:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - North Korean Satellite in Stable Orbit; Plutonium Production Expanded - http://sylnt.us - instability-from-stability
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[12:12:04] * crutchy wonders how many americans are aware of this: https://www.youtube.com
[12:12:05] <snowfire> ^ 03WE COULD`VE HAD A RON PAUL!. THANKS FOR 4 MORE YEARS OF OBAMA G.O.P..flv - YouTube
[12:12:32] <crutchy> ok i dunno wtf ron paul has to do with this video
[12:12:43] <crutchy> stupid title
[12:13:12] <Tramtrist> ron paul.. wju
[12:13:18] <crutchy> its actually about there being a bunch more presidential candidates than just the republican and democrat nominees
[12:13:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i'm feeling like setting up a jabber server.
[12:14:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> proof of concept it for SN
[12:14:26] <Tramtrist> wish i could get everyone i know off hangouts.. including myself
[12:14:43] <Tramtrist> hangouts.. the new AIM
[12:14:50] <crutchy> ~g'night #soylent
[12:14:52] * exec insatiably tosses an assload of NCommander to #soylent
[12:14:59] <Tramtrist> also doesnt help that google voice is controlling my contact/phone still
[12:14:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~g'night crutchy
[12:15:03] * exec spontaneously slides a cold can of milo to crutchy
[12:15:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> Tramtrist, hangouts is irrelevant if you use pidgin.
[12:16:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> xmpp still works for google folks
[12:16:38] <Tramtrist> ya i know.. still traversing googles network though
[12:16:42] <Tramtrist> google services
[12:16:55] <Tramtrist> so basically no different than if im using them myself
[12:17:06] <Tramtrist> already stealing all my chats
[12:18:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, not using that server. it's in the language that shall not be named.
[12:22:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> and good ole jabberd2 stores passwords in fucking plaintext.
[12:23:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> need nicotine.
[12:25:09] <Tramtrist> ha
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[12:32:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'currently balls cold
[12:32:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[12:32:32] <MrPlow> Today: Sunshine this morning then becoming mostly cloudy this afternoon. High 36F. Winds WNW at 10 to 15 mph. Tomorrow: A mainly sunny sky. High 46F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph.
[12:41:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... looks like i could write one in perl
[12:42:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> which means it'd be much easier to tie the bastich in with our db since perl is my bitch.
[12:44:23] <cmn32480> morning buzzard
[12:44:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, mornin
[12:44:48] <cmn32480> how goes today?
[12:45:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair, fair
[12:45:13] <cmn32480> thyat beats shitty shitty
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[12:47:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[12:48:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> trump n bernie won NH looks like. really says something that the american people decided a reality tv star and a socialist were the best of the bunch running.
[12:48:46] <cmn32480> kinda says somethign abtou our poliotical class
[12:54:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. like they need changed. like a diaper. for the same reason.
[12:54:58] <cmn32480> yessir
[12:55:06] <cmn32480> I ahte coming in and haveing 150 emails to deal with
[13:00:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i had one myself this morning. just deleted it.
[13:03:58] <cmn32480> yeah the people in house seem to think I ought to at least read the emaisl from them adn the custeomr before summary deletion
[13:04:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's just unreasonable
[13:07:42] <cmn32480> agreed
[13:07:55] <cmn32480> but answering them keesp me getting paid
[13:12:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> well there is that i spose.
[13:30:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, no working perl modules that'd give us an xmpp server. plenty for clients though.
[13:30:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i may have to write one.
[13:37:20] <cmn32480> IRC not good enough for you anymore?
[13:40:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Antiretroviral Therapy Reduces HIV in the Female Reproductive Tract - http://sylnt.us - stopping-the-spread
[13:47:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> irc's fine for me. other people are weird though.
[13:47:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, skip xmpp.
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[14:18:01] <blaman> aaaaa you guys still haven't added a "Most Discussed" box to the sidebar. how can this be? I baselessly predict a 200% increase in comments if it's added
[14:19:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> blaman wants to power our machinery by positive feedback.
[14:20:25] <paulej72> good morning
[14:21:20] <paulej72> blaman: never knew that was something people wanted
[14:22:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> Hey, I have an idea! We should put a poll to see what features people want added to the site!
[14:22:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think "Autoplaying Rammstein videos on every page" should be one of the options.
[14:22:46] <paulej72> the poll: Yes, NO, CommanderTaco
[14:29:15] <blaman> paulej72: it's how I read /. open a tab for each interesting story in the box and go read. I don't bother with the frontpage unless I'm extremely bored
[14:31:33] <qkontinuum> How about listing the stories with highest karma-count instead? In most cases it will give the same list, but might filter out some stupid flame-wars. Could be tweaked to ignore negative karma or to substract it from positive karma
[14:31:45] <qkontinuum> karma++
[14:31:45] <Bender> karma - karma: 16
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[14:49:20] <blaman_> paulej72: shouldn't the poll options read: Yes, NO, NCommander? :p (or has there been a shake-up/reshuffling?)
[14:52:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm?
[14:52:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh we haven't settled on a CowboyNeal alternative yet
[14:55:48] <blaman_> for shame
[14:58:31] <blaman_> I'll see if I can get your version of slashcode on github up and running and then patch in a Most Discussed box, if only for the brass to consider
[14:59:12] <mechanicjay> I was really hoping for our poll option to "Moose Wang".
[14:59:40] <mechanicjay> s/to/to be/g
[14:59:40] <sedctl> <mechanicjay> I was really hoping for our poll option to be "Moose Wang".
[15:00:44] <cmn32480> which polla re we lookking at?
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[15:29:46] <dyingtolive> ugh, been awake for two and a half hours, work starting the moment i rolled out of bed, and i just now have time to go make coffee. stupid busy day.
[15:29:54] <dyingtolive> coffee++
[15:29:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2192
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[16:10:04] <Runaway1956> So much bad news in the headlines - one day I'm going to stop reading the news.
[16:21:57] <cmn32480> put your subscription on auto-renew before you do that!
[16:22:38] <Runaway1956> Some pretty awesome photography here - artist uses unusual technique to confuse you - http://edition.cnn.com
[16:22:38] <snowfire> ^ 03Abstract art ... or Iceland's coast? - CNN.com
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[16:30:32] <dyingtolive> wow, those are really neat.
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[16:34:39] <Runaway1956> Humorous headline: A Single Concussion May Triple the Long-Term Risk of Suicide
[16:35:02] <Runaway1956> Which leads to the question: What if you were to concuss BOTH of your heads?
[16:42:01] <cmn32480> you'ld be in the fetal position crying most likely
[16:42:36] <Runaway1956> The fatal position, wishing I could cry, more likely.
[16:42:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cotton Candy Machine Capillary Systems - http://sylnt.us - can't-get-these-at-the-circus
[16:44:08] <Runaway1956> I used that approach. Gave the wife some candy, and she created an entire vascular system, complete with capillaries.
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[18:33:58] <cmn32480> damnit
[18:34:12] <cmn32480> there is a project on sourceforge that will supposedly do what I want...
[18:34:19] <cmn32480> but it is on sourceforge...
[18:37:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> cmn32480: what project? What are you trying to do?
[18:37:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> Context, man, context!
[18:37:40] <cmn32480> Manage Firefox via GPO
[18:38:14] <cmn32480> actaully.. I saw this thing called slashcode.. and I was gonna try to get a website up and running wiht it
[18:38:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> LOL
[18:39:11] <cmn32480> have some software that doesn't play nice with IE, and Chrome does funny stuff to my terminal server
[18:39:25] <cmn32480> so I waws looking into management optiosn for firefox.
[18:39:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> After reading the "installation" section of the rehash repo on github, I was thinking about reimplementing some parts of slash/rehash in something that wasn't an old version of Perl...but then I realized I'm way too lazy for that.
[18:39:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> Maybe I'll work on it if I get laid off again, but that's unlikely to happen.
[18:40:04] <cmn32480> there are several projects (though only one is recent) that claim to have adm files fro firefox
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[20:28:35] <crutchy> coffee++
[20:28:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2193
[20:34:52] <crutchy> http://www.cnbc.com
[20:34:53] <snowfire> ^ 03From ZIRP to NIRP: What's the Fed's next move?
[20:35:20] <crutchy> better buckle yer seatbelts... the QE train has left the station
[20:35:27] <chromas> from herp to derp
[20:36:56] <crutchy> rick santelli isn't too bad. he's no peter schiff, but he doesn't seem to be full of that keynesian bullshit as other cnbc whackjobs like scott nations
[20:44:02] <crutchy> http://www.cnbc.com
[20:44:03] <snowfire> ^ 03Fed's Yellen: Not sure we can do negative rates
[20:45:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> I have no idea who you guys are talking about
[20:45:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> and I think I like it that way.
[20:45:33] <crutchy> its not the preferred tool, but we're gunna figure out if we can just in case we get backed into an even tighter corner
[20:46:01] <crutchy> AndyTheAbsurd, heh. sometimes i wish i wasn't interested in this stuff
[20:46:12] <nick> well, they could avoid it by doing QE again
[20:46:15] <crutchy> is it just me or does yellen sound like an old man?
[20:46:34] <crutchy> QE will probably put yields into negative territory i guess
[20:46:44] <nick> i'm more of the feeling at the minute it will be QE followed by NIRP
[20:47:37] <crutchy> "shit we wanna do QE but does banking software handle negative numbers?"
[20:47:44] <nick> but really there is nothing they wont do, if they figure it will keep things rolling on for another 12-24months
[20:48:36] <nick> a negative number is just an asset on another balance sheet
[20:48:45] <nick> it's fine, they do that all the time
[20:48:59] <nick> that's why we are where we are
[20:49:43] <crutchy> ah crap i gotta go to workipoos
[20:49:48] <crutchy> cyas later o/
[20:49:54] * nick hat tip
[20:49:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> nick: problem is that bank software is (STILL) often coded in COBOL, at least some versions of which require you to specify that a number is signed before it can be negative, so the banks may have a lot of work to do.
[20:50:18] <nick> maybe our high street banks
[20:50:29] <chromas> Banks don't deal in negative numbers
[20:50:47] <nick> but the systems the banks care about, not so much.
[20:50:53] * chromas stores this for later
[20:51:10] <nick> that was my point about 'a negative number is just an asset on another balance sheet'
[20:56:07] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: you will have to convince them that it's costing them money to continue running the COBOL code before you will get them to switch to something else.
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[20:56:38] <chromas> Obviously they should be banking with nodes.js
[20:57:10] <Gravis> chromas: (ভ_ ভ) ރ ／/ ┊ \＼ Hit the road!
[20:57:53] <Gravis> ;)
[20:57:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> Gravis: I am aware of that; I spent almost 11 years working for a bank/bank-like entity.
[20:58:21] <chromas> Gravis: your wink suggests sexual favors along the road
[20:58:45] <Gravis> chromas: !!!!|┛*｀Д´|┛・・~~┻━┻　┳━┳
[20:59:44] * chromas imagines Gravis has a wordpress page of ascii arts perpetually open in his browser
[21:00:02] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: if the number of people that know COBOL keep decreasing and the price their services keeps increasing, they may switch eventually.
[21:00:51] <chromas> nah, they'll be covered by hipsters learning a 'retro' language
[21:01:02] <chromas> or 'vintage'
[21:01:14] <chromas> #retrovintage
[21:01:17] <Gravis> chromas: wordpress page, what, who me? (ﾟωﾟ；)
[21:01:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> #vintageretro
[21:01:37] * chromas zeros by division
[21:06:34] <Gravis> chromas: the day will come when an alternative is to modifying the COBOL code is availible that is far less expensive and already works as they want
[21:06:53] <Gravis> -is
[21:07:23] <Gravis> chromas: that day... will be when they upgrade to a modern language: pascal. ;)
[21:07:23] <chromas> sure, some day
[21:07:51] <chromas> banks masturbate to money, so I'm sure they'll do everything they can to minimize the amount they have to spend
[21:08:37] <Gravis> chromas: either that or when a bank merges, they will go with the more modern software and ditch the old
[21:11:29] <Gravis> chromas: hell, they might just buy a smaller bank just to modernize their software
[21:12:23] <Gravis> chromas: any way it goes, COBOL is going out the window.
[21:14:18] <Gravis> COBOL to C translators exist, so it's not a huge technical hurdle
[21:16:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FBI Unable to Decrypt California Terrorists' Cell Phone - http://sylnt.us - works-as-intended
[21:37:48] <SirFinkus> lol someone modded me a troll because I told them to RTFA
[21:37:52] <SirFinkus> love it
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[21:53:32] <qkontinuum> SirFinkus, why would you tell them to read the feminist authors?!?
[21:58:25] <SirFinkus> lol
[21:58:53] <SirFinkus> written language is inherently sexist
[21:58:56] <SirFinkus> everybody knows that
[22:27:09] <paulej72> c++ is very sexist
[22:27:09] <Bender> karma - c: 49
[22:27:41] <chromas> classist too
[22:27:53] <paulej72> yeah that too
[22:45:14] <cmn32480> fuck this.
[22:45:21] <cmn32480> I'm going home to drink heavily
[22:46:20] <cmn32480> ~gday #soylent
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