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[00:12:39] <cmn32480> nerds giggle
[00:13:09] <cmn32480> Film at 11.
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[00:15:41] <cmn32480> ~gday Ethanol-fueled
[00:15:42] * exec abnormally cracks open a DD cup of ciri poo for Ethanol-fueled
[00:15:50] <Ethanol-fueled> sup seamon32480.
[00:16:04] <Ethanol-fueled> I bet you're wondering why I'm here on a weekday.
[00:16:13] <Ethanol-fueled> For the first time in my life, I walked out of my job.
[00:16:15] <cmn32480> you still got a job right?
[00:16:22] <cmn32480> oh christ
[00:16:27] <cmn32480> why'd you do that?
[00:16:36] <Ethanol-fueled> It was ridiculously unsafe and abusive.
[00:16:52] <cmn32480> ok
[00:16:54] <Ethanol-fueled> And this is coming from somebody who worked in the shipyards.
[00:17:02] <cmn32480> report to OSHA... and collect!
[00:17:19] <Ethanol-fueled> I should, but the thing is that supervisors have plausible deniability
[00:17:37] <Ethanol-fueled> By design.
[00:17:47] <cmn32480> see taht ain't fair
[00:18:09] <cmn32480> you still got all yer fingers and toes, right?
[00:18:14] <Ethanol-fueled> There's an unspoken cultural difference between what you are supposed to do and what you are expected to do to a degree even I consider unsafe.
[00:18:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, last I checked.
[00:18:56] <cmn32480> start looking
[00:19:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Here are some of the things I was expected to do on a regular basis - stick my bare arm deep into an industrial ultrasonic cleaning tank, defeat interlocks to crawl into a large machine and shake parts of it while in motion, reach my bare hand into a cabinet with exposed high-voltage wiring inside, ....
[00:20:06] <cmn32480> yeah
[00:20:07] <cmn32480> no
[00:20:22] <cmn32480> can't say I blame you for walking
[00:20:50] <Ethanol-fueled> "Why don't you call somebody to get this all fixed?"
[00:20:58] <cmn32480> and you were there a pretty short time.
[00:21:01] <Ethanol-fueled> "We'd have to shut down production for a day or two"
[00:21:51] <cmn32480> a day of production isn't worth somebody's life
[00:22:08] <Ethanol-fueled> There was no formal training for anything except a safety briefing in which the head of safety for the entire company told new employees, "There are questions even I don't ask because I want to keep my job"
[00:22:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahaha
[00:22:38] <cmn32480> that was the point you should have known to start looking
[00:23:32] <cmn32480> so what now?
[00:23:37] <Ethanol-fueled> It was okay where I was at (a little dangerous but kinda fun), but they moved me to the people-eating machine, and after a week of that I said, fuckit. Literally walked right out the building and handed my badge to security at the front.
[00:23:38] <cmn32480> any leads on new employment
[00:24:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Finding a new job is easy here, takes like 2-3 weeks. I'll worry about that tomorrow. That's not an immediate concern because of a slight cash buffer
[00:24:24] <cmn32480> that's good
[00:24:37] <cmn32480> start tomorrow and try to keep as much of that buffer as possible
[00:25:02] <cmn32480> and for what little it is worth, 1) I'm sorry it turned out so shitty
[00:25:09] <Ethanol-fueled> It'
[00:25:14] <cmn32480> 2) you really ought to send an anonymous note to osha
[00:26:26] <Ethanol-fueled> It's nobody's fault, it's really one of those situations you can't predict intil you're in it. The company itself is prestigious and has a cafeteria and a campus like a modern art museum and its own fucking STORE. But like everybody else who lives in that area, it has deep sadomasochism within it.
[00:26:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, I am strongly considering making a report to OSHA.
[00:26:59] <cmn32480> you ought to. could save somebody's life
[00:27:02] <cmn32480> or fingers
[00:30:16] <cmn32480> my daughter just told me that I can be her Valentine.
[00:30:46] <cmn32480> I guess I ought to enjoy it. She's 3 and prolly won't wanna hang out wiht her old man too much longer
[00:31:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Whomever buys the candy is the valentine
[00:31:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Bahaha.
[00:32:02] <Ethanol-fueled> V-day was the shit in grade school
[00:32:19] <cmn32480> little rascal is currently trying to tickle my armpits
[00:33:20] <Ethanol-fueled> that's kinda pesty,
[00:33:26] <cmn32480> it is.
[00:33:34] <cmn32480> but she's sitting in my lap...
[00:33:46] <cmn32480> and i'm retaliating in the only way I know how
[00:33:52] <cmn32480> tickle her ribs
[00:34:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Lock 'er in the dog cage
[00:34:23] <cmn32480> and i get lots of hugs out of it
[00:34:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahaha
[00:36:01] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.foxnews.com
[00:36:01] <shekel> ^ 03UConn building 'black-only' living space to promote scholarship | Fox News
[00:36:04] * Ethanol-fueled chuckles
[00:36:11] * cmn32480 shakes his head
[00:36:14] <Ethanol-fueled> We are living in Bizarro-world now
[00:36:15] <cmn32480> they fought to get rid of that
[00:36:22] <cmn32480> now they ahve to have it back
[00:36:25] <cmn32480> WTF????
[00:36:32] <cmn32480> it truely is bizzarro world
[00:36:36] <cmn32480> ok
[00:36:42] <cmn32480> gotta get the kids ready for bed,.
[00:36:45] <cmn32480> back in a while
[00:36:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Lata
[00:36:51] <cmn32480> start hunting while I'm gone EF
[00:37:07] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll hunt when I'm on the streets. It's hookers and blow time.
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[01:22:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Samsung Enables Ad-Blocking Capabilities on its Android Browser - http://sylnt.us - wait-for-the-white-listing
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[02:23:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Vikings, Crystal 'Sunstones,' and the Discovery of America - http://sylnt.us - rape-and-pillage
[02:57:43] <Runaway1956> Now and then, I stumble over some good news. This is my kinda chick. https://www.facebook.com
[02:57:44] <shekel> ^ 03Zenith Irfan: 1 Girl 2 Wheels
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[03:52:42] <cmn32480> chromas
[03:52:53] <cmn32480> as long as you are logged in, you shoudl be able to see what is in the stroy queue
[03:53:05] <cmn32480> We get add-ons to stuff all the time
[03:53:51] <chromas> I can see the queue, but not https://soylentnews.org
[03:53:52] <shekel> ^ 03- SoylentNews User ( https://soylentnews.org )
[03:54:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Wants to Take 'Apple-Like' Control Over Nexus Phones - http://sylnt.us - that'll-go-over-well
[03:54:59] <cmn32480> no
[03:55:06] <cmn32480> that is the editing screen
[03:55:15] <cmn32480> you need OP/ED to see that
[03:55:21] <chromas> I guess once it's up you could get the url and edit it
[03:55:42] <chromas> Yeah, I thought you were commenting on the bot being unable to see it ('cause it's not logged in)
[03:55:46] <cmn32480> i think you can see the queue and read the story
[03:56:04] <takyon> kjjknjnj
[04:10:19] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[04:10:20] * exec dexterously postulates an assfull of splodge towards #soylent
[04:10:42] <cmn32480> bytram++
[04:10:42] <Bender> karma - bytram: 75
[04:10:43] <cmn32480> bytram++
[04:10:43] <Bender> karma - bytram: 76
[04:14:02] <takyon> https://www.youtube.com
[04:14:02] <shekel> ^ 03Content Cop - FINE BROS The Revenue Machine - YouTube
[04:15:22] <takyon> shekel on point tonight
[04:20:25] <Bytram> of coarse! ;)
[04:20:29] <Bytram> afk biab
[04:29:41] <Bytram> back
[04:52:28] <Bytram> takyon++
[04:52:28] <Bender> karma - takyon: 17
[04:52:29] <Bytram> takyon++
[04:52:29] <Bender> karma - takyon: 18
[04:52:30] <Bytram> takyon++
[04:52:30] <Bender> karma - takyon: 19
[05:25:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Crew Dragon Conducts Propulsive Hover and Parachute Drop Tests - http://sylnt.us - drop-it-like-it's-hot
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[05:59:36] <Bytram|away> !uid
[05:59:36] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6090, owned by garabito
[05:59:43] <Bytram|away> exit
[06:56:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New York is Going to Turn Off Niagara Falls - http://sylnt.us - before-the-fall
[07:25:46] <JamesNZ> spacex++
[07:25:46] <Bender> karma - spacex: 1
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[07:42:12] <SirFinkus> http://www.swinburne.edu.au
[07:42:13] <shekel> ^ 03Focus on results | 15 Jan 2016 | Swinburne news
[07:42:21] <SirFinkus> GRAPHENE DOES IT AGAIN!
[07:55:31] <JamesNZ> graphene++
[07:55:31] <Bender> karma - graphene: 1
[08:28:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Netflix's VPN Ban Cannot Cure TV Studios' Chronic Headaches - http://sylnt.us - web-is-world-wide-for-a-reason
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[08:44:14] <qkontinuum> ~cowsay g'day
[08:44:15] <exec> _______
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[08:44:15] <exec> \ ^__^
[08:44:16] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[08:44:17] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
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[09:01:31] <poutine> so is SN packing up and going home since slashdot was bought by a new company? surely they will restore slashdot to its former glory
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[09:59:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Regulator Approves Gene Editing in Human Embryos - http://sylnt.us - does-fred-know-gene-is-being-edited
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[11:08:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:08:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2160
[11:13:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> poutine, i don't expect all of the community will suddenly say "oooh, new owners, we must give them a chance!"
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[11:19:08] <chromas> besides, slashdot still doesn't even unicode
[11:19:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> they get no đź’©
[11:19:36] <chromas> soylent got unicode at least twice :D
[11:19:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> you ain't kiddin. bloody code.
[11:23:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, who the hell uses raid 0 or raid 1? raid 5 ftw, bitches.
[11:23:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> raid 10 if you really need data security
[11:23:52] <chromas> 6, ninjabundle
[11:24:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.phoronix.com
[11:24:46] <shekel> ^ 03Linux Hardware Reviews, Articles, Gaming - Phoronix ( http://www.phoronix.com )
[11:25:29] <chromas> btrfs++
[11:25:29] <Bender> karma - btrfs: 3
[11:25:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmmm, butter fs
[11:26:11] <chromas> sounds like it should be a subset of FAT
[11:27:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> really though, we need to just go whole hog and make bknfs
[11:30:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - WHO Calls Zika Virus Outbreak an International Health Emergency - http://sylnt.us - time-to-invest-in-nets-and-DEET
[11:30:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> not me
[11:31:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's fuckin winter. no skeeters.
[11:31:35] <chromas> only where it's actually winter
[11:31:54] <chromas> last week we were peaking in the 50s
[11:32:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, crutchy ain't gotta worry about skeeters. too many poisonous things down there to eat them.
[11:32:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> cane toads, yo. they're big enough to eat a gerzillion skeeters a night each.
[11:35:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smakeadd a cane toad
[11:35:01] <MrPlow> added: a cane toad
[11:35:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smakeadd a dropbear
[11:35:16] <MrPlow> added: a dropbear
[11:39:05] * chromas eats leftover crock pot bbq pulled chicken
[11:39:13] <chromas> #smake chromas
[11:39:13] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a dead smurf
[11:40:46] * TheMightyBuzzard gives chromas the hairy eyeball
[11:40:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> no pulling your chicken in here. bbq or not.
[11:41:33] <chromas> You're right; I should have jerked it
[11:41:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab chromas
[11:41:56] <Bender> Added quote 665
[11:42:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, i need some nicotine and a coffee refill.
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[12:46:50] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:46:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2161
[12:46:56] <cmn32480> morning buzzard
[12:51:35] <alexbst> bacon++
[12:51:35] <Bender> karma - bacon: 306
[12:51:39] <alexbst> I solved problems today with bacon.
[12:51:50] <cmn32480> hunger was the probleM
[12:51:56] <cmn32480> smelly domicile?
[12:52:18] <cmn32480> needed to know what to do with a pig?
[13:01:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Default Apache Configuration can Unmask Tor Hidden Services - http://sylnt.us - shedding-a-tear-for-.onion
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[13:19:12] <cmn32480> in meetings all day... back tonight
[13:19:18] <cmn32480> ~gday #soylent
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[13:45:39] <dyingtolive> http://imgur.com
[13:45:39] <shekel> ^ 03Quit Your Bullshit - Album on Imgur
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[14:07:23] <chromas> every gender, across the spectrum
[14:07:35] <chromas> somebody's on the spectrum. calling gilbert grape
[14:08:26] <chromas> light switches sometimes get stuck between on and off, therefore switch positions are a spectrum, and labeling them ON and OFF is problematic
[14:14:50] <dyingtolive> i get annoyed at the fact that people spend more time defining themselves by those characteristics than by defining themselves with more interesting and less tangible characteristics.
[14:16:56] <dyingtolive> i mean, sure, whatever gender i am is _part_ of what i am, along with a million other characteristics. none of those are _who_ i am though.
[14:17:47] <nick> dyingtolive++
[14:17:47] <Bender> karma - dyingtolive: 2
[14:18:34] <dyingtolive> because at the end of the day, it's boring as shit. genders are like assholes. regardless of how proud you get of yours, everyone has one.
[14:18:37] <nick> people apparently like to categorise themselves,i assume for a sense of belonging
[14:19:48] <dyingtolive> sure. i do too. i just do it by things i do, not things i am.
[14:19:49] <nick> being part of a social group or class that is larger than any actual personal association
[14:19:59] <dyingtolive> hence being here.
[14:20:09] <nick> quite right
[14:21:21] <nick> but you do that actively, i don't want up in the morning with commitment to having a chromosome or a particular set of reproductive organs
[14:21:38] <nick> want/wake/
[14:27:27] <dyingtolive> the bizarre thing to me is the places where the philosophical difference of origin of sense of clashes. it's there that you see the one continually trying to force itself into the other.
[14:30:52] <nick> the values from a cultural identity seem to want to be shared with the world, sometimes by force, not to spread the identity, as that would make it less special/unique, but more to influence other cultures, be the guiding one
[14:31:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> nick: but do you get up in the morning with a commitment to being sexually attracted to people with a certain set of traits?
[14:31:37] <chromas> reverse cultural appropriation :D
[14:31:58] <nick> the primary culture, the one that enlightened the others, which is why you'll see an attempt at absorbing other cultures norms and values, but under more 'enlightened' banners
[14:32:14] <nick> AndyTheAbsurd: can't say i do
[14:32:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientific Expedition to Antarctica Will Search for Dinosaur Fossils and More - http://sylnt.us - working-your-fingers-to-the-bone
[14:32:46] <dyingtolive> nick: that certainly fits in with those whose identities stem from religious origins.
[14:33:17] <nick> hard to avoid in humanities history, the influence of religion on culture and philosophy
[14:34:47] <nick> religion is a powerful tool for the sake of structure and organisation in society, followers are often naive and manipulated sadly though
[14:39:27] <dyingtolive> the interesting thing is the subset of these cultures that attempt to spread this way, and those that don't. i mean, you don't hear of ESR or any big name in the hacker/FOSS culture attempting to crawl into, say, gender studies.
[14:40:34] <chromas> that's 'cause they got real degrees
[14:41:07] <dyingtolive> haha
[14:41:17] <nick> well, everyone is different, some people specialise and/or have very narrow focus in their goals
[14:42:14] <nick> if ESR wanted to talk about gender studies/politics or whatever, he's free to do so, but his words have to stand on their own merits
[14:42:48] <nick> and from what i see, none of the people taking part in the gender debate with any reach are saying anything worthwhile
[14:44:45] <nick> as a relatively privileged white male who has squandered most of the opportunity afforded and still come out alright so far... it's not a debate for me, but i can appreciate sentiments expressed by supposedly opposing sides
[14:45:01] <nick> who just have an absolutely impossible time of communicating with each other effectively
[14:45:05] <chromas> colleges should require every student take a critical thinking class before anything else
[14:45:23] <nick> but then they might ask the lecturer/professor/whoever too many questions
[14:45:29] <dyingtolive> well, i used ESR as an example, but my point is that not all cultures seem to wish to infect others. they seem to be specific ones targeting specific others.
[14:45:42] <nick> dyingtolive: the ones that flourish infect others
[14:46:29] <nick> i was speaking to someone today, who is supposedly a nerd, and though FOSS was a relatively new concept
[14:46:38] <nick> 'before it was called freeware'
[14:47:13] <dyingtolive> well, 'nerd' nowadays is a good thing and means anyone wearing glasses with an iphone, by apparent standards.
[14:47:39] <nick> someone in their 40's who's been into geek and nerd culture since he was a kid, computers and scifi etc
[14:48:47] <dyingtolive> okay, fair enough. i have no words for that then.
[14:49:08] <nick> my point is, if the hacker/foss culture was directly engaged in popular culture and tried to spread that type of culture and ideologies a bit more, it would have a higher positive profile publicly
[14:49:14] <chromas> maybe he's a windows user ;)
[14:49:29] <nick> he's an Apple for life user.
[14:49:41] <nick> and you're right about nerd culture now
[14:50:00] <nick> but that's more to the point, what did get into the mainstream culture as far as nerd culture?
[14:50:08] <nick> the aesthetic, the physical appearance
[14:50:17] <nick> obviously in a more photo friendly style
[14:50:22] <chromas> nerds are cool because they're victims and victimhood is trendy
[14:50:45] <nick> that's an interesting take on it
[14:50:55] * nick will ponder that one
[14:51:52] <nick> all this chatting is going to get me stuck in taffic on the way to the builders merchant, one of the most manly places to go
[14:53:21] <dyingtolive> well, if you're right about flourishing cultures inheriently infecting others, then it could be a matter of the STEM bubble "breeding" nerds, even in emulation, if not in talent.
[14:54:53] <dyingtolive> also, chromas, that's quite a paradigm shift. i'm going to need to think about that one for a while.
[14:54:59] <nick> there's money in the nerd nostalgia more than there ever was, the people who did get 'real degrees' are some of the few people with disposable income now
[14:55:12] <nick> who don't mind buying geeky toys and dvd box sets of stuff they already have experienced
[14:57:05] <dyingtolive> to a certain extent though, a lot of "nerd culture" is relatively fresh, i.e. the last 50 years or so. i don't know if that's any more significant than buying an album simply becuase you remember your parents playing it when you were young, or something like that.
[14:58:12] <nick> well a lot has happened in that time really, with the acceleration of consumerism
[14:58:46] <nick> i'm thinking of the decades long star was phenomenon as a major example of the worlds transition into geek/nerds being cool
[15:14:31] <dyingtolive> the point of the conversation, at least for me, is a sense of needing to come up with some set of words that will make them go away. i would rather see them from afar as just being "that reason i don't go to tumblr", rather than hearing of stories about creep into github/ruby/etc.
[15:17:05] <nick> stop giving the idiocy oxygen, the more attention it gets, the more angry people get, the more the behaviour is validated
[15:19:08] <nick> it's emotion against emotion, it appears to rarely be based on actual logic, intentions can be noble but worded poorly and people take the bait every time
[15:19:15] <dyingtolive> that would be the wise move, but it still leaks into my world view from time to time.
[15:19:56] <dyingtolive> yeah. even if i could approach the matter entirely logically, i have a feeling that it would not be met with equal amounts of logic.
[15:20:13] <nick> when you hear about it, it's going to be for the wrong reasons, or presented as so, a divisive headline is going to generate more interest
[15:20:51] <nick> you might not be met with it, but say in the comments on this site, someone else might read the conversation and come away from that with a more rounded opinion when discussing similar topics in the future
[15:21:31] <nick> i've mentioned this before, people preach to the choir/everyone else, but don't actually try and convince the person they're having the debate with
[16:03:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dutch Police Training Eagles to Attack Drones - http://sylnt.us - catch-and-release-into-custody
[16:30:57] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[16:30:58] <shekel> ^ 03Winamp 2.91 -- It Really Whips the Llama's Ass - YouTube
[16:31:14] <Runaway1956> My internet connection reminded me of that
[16:31:15] <chromas> Good times
[16:31:26] <Runaway1956> My ISP - it really sucks the llama's ass.
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[17:01:09] <chromas> kinda makes me wanna install audacious media player and install a bunch o' winAMP skins
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[17:35:50] <takyon> let's run that poll
[17:37:43] <Gravis> hmm... i'm reminded of Beep Media Player. the main developer was an asshole, gnome style
[17:38:17] <chromas> audacious is a fork of bmp ;)
[17:38:32] <chromas> perhaps that's why
[17:39:30] <Gravis> the dev talked some trash to people IRL, got his ass kicked and ended up in the hospital
[17:39:57] <Gravis> for like a whole month
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[18:06:20] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you gotta add a "delete all messages" button to the initial my/inbox view
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[19:06:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ubuntu 14.04 Update Breaks Networking If You Chose Pre-Released Updates - http://sylnt.us - bleeding-edge
[19:07:14] <dyingtolive> last line in that summary is begging for ALLLL the systemd trolls. :)
[19:08:03] <SirFinkus> "once I updated fedora, and my entire init system was deleted!"
[19:08:33] <SirFinkus> all those symlinked bash scripts
[19:08:36] <dyingtolive> mine was centos, but same deal, basically. :(
[19:12:28] <dyingtolive> interestingly, when i moved to freebsd in direct reponse to that, x11 forwarding actually went from being so slow it was impossible to use to being as fast as running something natively. i don't thing sysd is to blame for it, and i've not deep dived into the issue to figure out what actually was different, but it was surprising.
[19:16:21] <SirFinkus> huh
[19:16:29] <SirFinkus> x11 forwarding is fun to play with
[19:16:46] <SirFinkus> but I hear it's a bit obsolete these days
[19:18:30] <dyingtolive> it's probably some slight tweak in a config file or something i never bothered to research the first time around, but i'm going to say that NetworkManager is to blame. that was a pottering original, right? close enough.
[19:19:11] <dyingtolive> is it obsolete? it works for my purposes. all i want is to be able to hit the virtual box interface on a remote computer on my local lan.
[19:20:46] <SirFinkus> it was in some talk about how x11 is horrible a while back
[19:21:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> you can talk to VirtualBox VMs with VBoxManager from a command line so you can just do ssh to get to it. Or I think VirtualBox supports RDP if you start the VM with the option for headless.
[19:22:15] <SirFinkus> I believe the criticism is that you're basically just running something like RDP and not using any of the x11 features, so it's just crufty and you might as well just use RDP
[19:22:24] <SirFinkus> probably butchered that, I'll try to find the talk
[19:22:28] <dyingtolive> yeah, i do that for simple start/stop stuff, but it's easier to just open the ui for any detailed changes than to try to figure out how to do it the hard way.
[19:22:39] <dyingtolive> realistically, i should probably just use RDP
[19:24:16] <SirFinkus> meh, can't find it, and don't want to look further
[19:24:31] <SirFinkus> I think it was during the first wayland presentation
[19:25:41] <SirFinkus> I do like x11 forwarding, because it's pretty easy to set up if both machines are running x11
[19:25:57] <SirFinkus> just a few lines in your ssh config and you're off
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[19:45:35] <Runaway1956> "ubuntu" and "fast lane" - that's almost an oxymoron.
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[20:19:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Unh.
[20:19:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Dey Blacks.
[20:20:19] <SirFinkus> someone steal your bike or something?
[20:20:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Dey Blacks did.
[20:20:33] <SirFinkus> sorry, that's inappropriate
[20:20:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Now I beez walking.
[20:21:23] <SirFinkus> I skipped school today
[20:21:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Whoa, what a rebel.
[20:21:54] <SirFinkus> inorite?
[20:22:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Some professors are cocksuckers and will drop students after 2-3 misses
[20:22:26] <SirFinkus> hope these ones won't
[20:22:36] <SirFinkus> whatever, felt like shit this morning
[20:22:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Should do the online classes if available
[20:22:50] <Ethanol-fueled> if you get a doctors note they wont fuck with you.
[20:23:00] <SirFinkus> don't have the self discipline for that
[20:23:30] <SirFinkus> the online classes
[20:23:46] <SirFinkus> and I learn better when somebody real shows it to me
[20:23:57] <SirFinkus> the youtube shit doesn't really work either
[20:24:23] <Ethanol-fueled> YOutube shit sucks.
[20:24:50] <SirFinkus> youtube is great, just gotta know what to watch
[20:24:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Does your school offer calc I online? How about calc II?
[20:25:08] <SirFinkus> probably, haven't looked into it
[20:25:13] <SirFinkus> I'm still in retard math
[20:25:19] <Ethanol-fueled> They stopped offering calc I online here
[20:25:28] <Ethanol-fueled> and never offered calc II online.
[20:25:39] <SirFinkus> especially with the math classes, I'd want it to be in person
[20:25:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, I'm in agreement with that even though its a pain in the ass having to go to the actual class.
[20:26:00] <SirFinkus> even if our teacher is really bad
[20:26:11] <SirFinkus> she gives us group work, which really fucks me up with math
[20:26:37] <Ethanol-fueled> group work sucks ass.
[20:26:47] <SirFinkus> it's especially bad for math
[20:27:10] <SirFinkus> how do people cooperate to solve a linear equation?
[20:27:40] <SirFinkus> usually it ends up with either me or my partner solving it, and the other person going "yeah" "mmhmm" etc
[20:27:48] <Ethanol-fueled> One does the work and the other 3/4 are minorities.
[20:27:59] <SirFinkus> the occasional "you dropped the - there"
[20:28:31] <SirFinkus> there's an autistic guy, and a guy with tourettes or something in my class
[20:28:35] <SirFinkus> autistic guy is much worse
[20:29:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahaah
[20:29:03] <Ethanol-fueled> tards++
[20:29:03] <Bender> karma - tards: 1
[20:29:40] <SirFinkus> our teacher is an indian from the UK, I like how she says "Maths"
[20:29:56] <Ethanol-fueled> is she hot, fink?
[20:30:09] <SirFinkus> she's all right for an older woman
[20:30:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Is she stank?
[20:30:19] <SirFinkus> takes care of herself
[20:30:22] <SirFinkus> no
[20:30:32] <SirFinkus> at least not that I've noticed
[20:33:24] <Ethanol-fueled> At a community college here there's a student in a linear algebra class to murmurs to himself the whole time
[20:33:32] <SirFinkus> I saw a girl the other day that you'd be all over
[20:33:38] <SirFinkus> she's like an iceberg
[20:33:48] <Ethanol-fueled> you mean big like an iceberg?
[20:33:51] <SirFinkus> no
[20:33:53] <SirFinkus> bottom heavy
[20:33:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Hell Yeah
[20:34:03] <SirFinkus> I swear her hips are twice as wide as her torso
[20:34:16] * Ethanol-fueled kneads dick, curls toes
[20:34:39] <SirFinkus> she always wears these tight jeans, they have to be custom, because I've never seen an ass like it
[20:36:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[20:36:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Asses like those should be in leggings
[20:36:51] <SirFinkus> no complaints about the jeans
[20:37:01] <Ethanol-fueled> stretched to near-transparancy, revealing the thong and cheek-dimples underneath.
[20:37:08] <SirFinkus> shit has changed since since I was last in school
[20:37:18] <SirFinkus> skin tight yoga pants are the thing now
[20:37:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DNA Got a Kid Kicked Out of School—And It'll Happen Again - http://sylnt.us - GATTACA
[20:37:29] <SirFinkus> no complaints on that front
[20:37:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, more blonde white women are with Blacks now too. MTV's mind control has a stranglehold on 'em.
[20:37:41] <SirFinkus> they're basically just wearing pantyhose around
[20:37:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, it's pretty nice.
[20:38:00] <SirFinkus> I just wish they had proper seams like pantyhose
[20:38:08] <SirFinkus> that's one of the best parts
[20:38:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Like on the crotch? Eww, gross.
[20:38:50] <Ethanol-fueled> the crotch part of the pantyhose is a reminder that women are messy in that place.
[20:39:02] <SirFinkus> it's hot, because they're designed so that part is hidden
[20:39:20] <SirFinkus> it's kind of like seeing a bra strap that you aren't supposed to, but much better
[20:39:43] <SirFinkus> but less so than seeing the top of a thong or something
[20:39:51] <nick> A Chicago rapper involved in a home invasion at Derrick Rose's former home in Englewood was shot dead by police during a shootout early Sunday, police said. [...]
[20:39:52] <nick> Smith and his girlfriend, Breanna Patterson, 20, of the 7200 block of South Wolcott, broke into the Englewood home while looking for a man who robbed them, prosecutors said on Monday [...]Patterson faces charges of first degree murder and home invasion, according to Chicago Police."
[20:40:16] <Ethanol-fueled> That's pretty random, Nick.
[20:40:24] <nick> first degree murder charges for the police shooting someone else
[20:40:32] <nick> seemed kind of odd to me is all
[20:40:58] <Ethanol-fueled> It's Bizarro world now
[20:41:00] <nick> 'the police shot this guy, because you were there, you murdered him' is not something i've heard of before
[20:41:13] <SirFinkus> there was another story about a cop that shot a 12 year old girl, and her dad got charged with murder because he was involved in a standoff with the cops
[20:41:24] <Ethanol-fueled> That's ridiculous.
[20:41:34] <Ethanol-fueled> I mean, I believe it, but it's fucking ridiculous.
[20:41:42] <nick> it's same logic for both situations
[20:41:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Almost as ridicoulous as that European girl who was charged for defending herself with pepper-spray
[20:42:11] <Ethanol-fueled> defending herself from a migrant savage
[20:42:16] <SirFinkus> I'd try to find the story, but I don't want to google "12 year old"
[20:42:23] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha
[20:43:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> "Anyone that committed a felony that resulted in death can be charged with that murder, even if he or she was not the shooter, according to state law."
[20:43:58] <Ethanol-fueled> That's retarted.
[20:44:19] <nick> i have heard the argument before, as in a bank robber is responsible if someone involved in the robbery kills someone
[20:44:26] <nick> i dont agree with it, but i kind of see the sense
[20:44:37] <nick> but when it's the police shooting someone, and then changing the accomplice with murder...
[20:45:25] <SirFinkus> there probably should be some kind of law about getting people killed like that
[20:45:27] <nick> or indeed, an innocent bystander in crossfire
[20:45:29] <SirFinkus> but it shouldn't be murder
[20:45:46] <nick> indeed, first degree murder is quite a specific charge and i don't see how it applies here
[20:45:59] <SirFinkus> like, endangerment?
[20:46:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think manslaughter would seem to be the appropriate charge
[20:46:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> (but I am not a lawyer)
[20:46:38] <nick> manslaughter would be the most logical 'not soft on crime' choice
[20:46:59] <SirFinkus> I don't even know about that, I can't get over the part where the cop shoots someone and someone else gets charged with it
[20:47:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup, should be manslaughter
[20:47:34] <nick> in the case of a cop shooting a suspect, no way anyone should be charged with that
[20:47:37] <SirFinkus> manslaughter is sexist, it should be called personslaughter
[20:48:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Gonna bail and finish my run. Peace out brothas
[20:48:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> personslaughter is speciesist, it should be sentientslaughter.
[20:48:06] <nick> unless the cop actually murdered them, or some other nefarious shit
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[20:48:18] <SirFinkus> maybe instead, it should just be an intensifier for the sentence
[20:48:33] <SirFinkus> "Robbery with endangerment" or something
[20:48:50] <SirFinkus> errr, I think the technical term is "enhancment"
[20:49:55] <SirFinkus> my main worry about it being a serious crime is all the no knock shit we have going on
[20:50:01] <SirFinkus> like that time they tossed a flashbang into a crib
[20:50:17] <SirFinkus> should the parents be charged with horribly burning the baby?
[20:50:50] <SirFinkus> I mean, it's almost the same situation, and I could see some scumbag prosecutor making that argument
[20:51:03] <SirFinkus> actually, you know what? if the cops kill or injure someone, that's on them
[20:51:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> no knock warrants need to not be issued except on a MUCH higher standard of evidence than regular warrants
[20:51:15] <SirFinkus> absolutely
[20:51:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> and require the participation in the breaching by chiefs of police
[20:51:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> when the Head Honcho has to risk his neck for that shit, it won't happen very often.
[20:52:26] <SirFinkus> right now, the standard seems to be "the neighbor saw him selling weed" or "he bought a bunch of lights and fertilizer"
[20:52:33] <SirFinkus> OH SHIT, SEND IN THE MRAPS
[20:53:42] <SirFinkus> oh, and of course, mandatory video footage of the entire raid and search process
[20:54:04] <SirFinkus> if it gets lost, officers get charged with obstruction and/or destruction of evidence
[20:55:01] <nick> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[20:55:03] <shekel> ^ 03Federal judge: Drinking tea, shopping at a gardening store is probable cause for a SWAT raid on your home - The Washington Post
[20:55:06] <nick> did we do that story?
[20:55:15] <SirFinkus> yeah, it looks familiar
[20:55:32] <nick> the best part: "The couple, both former CIA analysts, awoke to pounding at the door. "
[20:56:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yeah...there's funding issues with requiring body cam footage, but the funding for it should get freed up as we stop fighting against pot as part of the War on (Some) Drugs.
[20:56:14] <SirFinkus> it's all drug shit too, a lot of these problems would be solved with decriminalization
[20:56:23] <SirFinkus> funding issues? please
[20:56:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> it's not the cameras themselves that present a funding problem
[20:57:17] <SirFinkus> don't even need to be body cams really (would be nice though) could just be some guy with a camcorder
[20:57:23] <SirFinkus> like they do when they raid prison cells
[20:57:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> it's getting the storage space to store the massive amount of video that will be generated, and administering that storage properly, both for backups and for being able to access it in a timely fashion.
[20:57:39] <nick> "The CPD has blamed the failures on "operator error or in some cases intentional destruction," and a close reading of that review by DNAinfo Chicago reveals the extent of the latter. Officers frequently tampered with dash cams, stashing microphones in their glove boxes or pulling out batteries. Some dash cams were found with their antennae deliberately destroyed, and others had had their microphones removed altogether.
[20:57:39] <nick> DNAinfo also describes a months-long repair time for dash cams that experienced “intentional destruction."
[20:57:45] <SirFinkus> maybe it'd be less of a problem if there were fewer no-nock raids
[20:58:30] <SirFinkus> solved problem AndyTheAbsurd, they already have massive databases of license plate scans and shit
[21:00:08] <nick> "In December, Chicago's interim police superintendent, John Escalante, started handing out reprimands and suspensions of up to three days to officers who damaged their dash cams."
[21:00:30] <SirFinkus> I bet if i damaged a traffic camera, I'd get more than a reprimand
[21:00:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> He should have handed out pink slips
[21:00:37] <nick> chicago is a strange place apparently.
[21:00:53] <SirFinkus> no, they should be arrested for vandalism at the very least
[21:01:05] <SirFinkus> destruction of public property
[21:01:30] <SirFinkus> if I get caught keying a cop car, I'm spending a night in jail at the very least
[21:01:31] <nick> what would they do if a member of the public destroyed a cctv camera on the street they live
[21:02:10] <nick> one that sees them every time they leave the house/apartment but they have no control over
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[22:08:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Dutch Tech Whiz Kid Who Could "Save Journalism" - http://sylnt.us - save==revenue
[23:03:53] <Deucalion> hola soylenteers o/
[23:04:02] <SirFinkus> what do you want?
[23:04:14] <Deucalion> your sister! :P
[23:04:23] <SirFinkus> you probably don't
[23:04:30] <SirFinkus> but you're welcome to her
[23:05:35] <Deucalion> bit harsh
[23:06:15] <SirFinkus> or generous, you haven't met her
[23:06:32] <Deucalion> true dat
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[23:55:11] <cmn32480> wife just tried to put a barret in in my beard... and in the process tried to rip out the hair
[23:55:37] * Deucalion wonders what a barret is
[23:55:44] <cmn32480> baret?
[23:55:50] <cmn32480> I don't know how to spell it
[23:56:03] <cmn32480> one fo those thigns that little girls put in their hair to hold it out of their eyes
[23:56:36] <Deucalion> I've never heard the word, don't ask me. A hair clip type thing?
[23:57:08] <cmn32480> yeah
[23:57:11] <cmn32480> barrette
[23:58:28] <Deucalion> Ooh - one of those springy clippy things...never knew they had a name