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[00:00:09] * cmn32480 puts the ticket in a pile with the rest of them
[00:02:39] <cmn32480> notepad++++
[00:02:52] <cmn32480> bender--
[00:02:52] <Bender> karma - bender: 3
[00:05:17] * Deucalion vacuums up the popcorn crumbs, restocks the free bar then fucks off.
[00:12:59] <mechanicjay> Man, I hate posting what I think is an oh-so-clever comment, only to have no one else see the genius in it ;(
[00:13:25] <SirFinkus> just got a KFC famous bowl, for when eating everything you can get at kfc separately is too much trouble.
[00:14:06] <SirFinkus> it's good for you
[00:14:18] <SirFinkus> it hardens the arteries, and makes them more resiliant
[00:14:47] <SirFinkus> and clogs your veins so your heart gets more exercise
[00:20:50] <cmn32480> dinner... biab
[00:24:22] * crutchy admittedly hasn't been paying much attention to the sn website lately
[00:25:35] <Gravis> mechanicjay: just assume everyone else is too dumb to recognize your genius. ;P
[00:25:54] <Gravis> mechanicjay: people love denial.
[00:30:26] <crutchy> ignorance is bliss
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[00:33:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahahaahah
[00:34:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Slashdot got bought by bizx LLC, which is in BARIO LOGAN
[00:34:15] <crutchy> aye focker!
[00:34:48] <SirFinkus> who is bario logan and why should I give a shit?
[00:34:48] <Ethanol-fueled> aye.
[00:34:54] <Ethanol-fueled> This is barrio logan
[00:34:55] <Ethanol-fueled> http://farm3.static.flickr.com
[00:35:18] <Ethanol-fueled> https://upload.wikimedia.org
[00:35:21] <SirFinkus> oh god, I just realized the logo looks like a stylized version of trump's hair
[00:35:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Slashdot was bought by the straight 'MENACE
[00:35:44] <Ethanol-fueled> http://ourcitysd.com
[00:35:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahaheeeheeheehoooooo!
[00:36:19] <SirFinkus> if you don't like the brown menace, why don't you move out of San Diego?
[00:36:22] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.nassco.com
[00:36:29] <Ethanol-fueled> AYE AYE AYE ha ha HAAAA
[00:36:45] <Ethanol-fueled> I love the brown menace. I've dated quite a few of them.
[00:37:23] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[00:37:23] <shekel> ^✓ 03Paco de Lucia "la Barrosa" - YouTube
[00:37:42] <SirFinkus> I'm trying to learn how to do this
[00:38:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Those are some wicked rasguedos
[00:39:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google DeepMind's AlphaGo Beats "Go" Champion Using Neural Networks - http://sylnt.us - going-deep
[00:39:22] <Ethanol-fueled> he can do them machine-gun style. The best I can do is one up-down and way slow at that.
[00:39:44] <SirFinkus> I'm going to start with the clapping and work my way up
[00:39:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahaha
[00:40:00] <SirFinkus> is rasguedos when he smacks the strings with the backs of his fingers?
[00:40:02] <SirFinkus> using his nails?
[00:40:14] <SirFinkus> I think that's what he's doing anyway
[00:40:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, it;s kinda like a "harp roll" or "glissando"
[00:40:34] <Ethanol-fueled> you dont necessarily use nails, you can use the fingertip flesh
[00:40:57] <Ethanol-fueled> he does them as fast as I can speed-pick only one note.
[00:41:15] <SirFinkus> I've tried that, but I can't get the notes to separate, so I suspect there's some sweep picking like motion with the left hand
[00:41:38] <Ethanol-fueled> that's pretty much what it is - sweep-picking with your fingertips.
[00:42:37] <Ethanol-fueled> for effect you can do slower ones up and down the length around the soundhole to get tonal variations
[00:42:52] <Ethanol-fueled> kinda like a sideways "s" pattern...or perhaps a tilde pattern.
[00:43:54] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[00:43:59] <shekel> ^ 03Flamenco Guitar - Sabicas - Fantasia (Best of Veojam.com) - YouTube
[00:44:01] <cmn32480> wassup Ethanol-fueled
[00:44:03] <SirFinkus> beats the shit out of any rock guitar
[00:44:39] <Ethanol-fueled> semen32480, wussup!
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[00:45:36] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[00:45:37] <shekel> ^ 03♫ Recuerdos de la Alhambra / Narciso Yepes - YouTube
[00:46:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Now that's a bastard with two gimmicks - a fuckfat-necked guitarra and the ability to fingerpick slow melodies while rapid-picking pedal notes with his m and a fingers
[00:46:47] <SirFinkus> that's neat
[00:46:50] <Ethanol-fueled> er, the a and the pinky fingers.
[00:47:32] <SirFinkus> the guitar seems like a gimmick
[00:47:35] <Ethanol-fueled> No, I got that wrong.
[00:47:50] <SirFinkus> it's pima, I don't know what pinky is
[00:48:05] * SirFinkus never picks with his pinky
[00:48:07] <Ethanol-fueled> he's not that good , he's playing the melody with hsi thumb and wasting the rest of his fingers with the budbudbududbudbddbebebdbebdebdbebdb
[00:48:18] <Ethanol-fueled> use that pinky, bro. Make it strong.
[00:48:40] <SirFinkus> I've only just started using my fingers
[00:49:01] <SirFinkus> pretty hardcore left hand pinky skills though
[00:49:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Learn the exotic seventh chords and fret the "D" chord with your pinky on the 4th fret of the 4th string (rather than using an open 4th string)
[00:49:24] <cmn32480> how were you playing before? with yer toes?
[00:49:26] <SirFinkus> I just don't use it picking
[00:49:30] <SirFinkus> using a pick?
[00:49:37] <cmn32480> picking your nose?
[00:49:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, derp.
[00:50:01] <Ethanol-fueled> when you get it strong it helps wtih arpeggios
[00:50:28] * cmn32480 goes back to reconfiguring the access control system at the office remotely...
[00:50:40] <SirFinkus> I can even pull off the occasional full step bend with it, I don't very often though
[00:50:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, nice. and the next flamenco youtube vid is the "hey look, I'm a girl doing this" vid. NEXT!
[00:51:21] <SirFinkus> like, youtube girl, or professional musician?
[00:51:30] <Ethanol-fueled> pro, but still.
[00:51:48] <SirFinkus> meh, at that level you've got to be good
[00:51:56] <SirFinkus> I'd give her some credit
[00:52:15] <SirFinkus> it's not stand up comedy
[00:52:20] <Ethanol-fueled> I'd say she's better than I am ( which almost anybody is at this point) but not groundbreaking.
[00:53:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Female stand-up comedy is pretty horrible.
[00:53:50] <Ethanol-fueled> The males are bad too, but they were at least good back in the day.
[00:53:55] <SirFinkus> surprised nobody took that bait
[00:54:16] <crutchy> http://in.reuters.com
[00:54:22] <shekel> ^ 03Race for Zika vaccine gathers momentum as virus spreads| Reuters
[00:54:32] <crutchy> why does this remind me of that 'plague' game?
[00:54:35] <SirFinkus> there are still a few good comics out there, but I've never seen a funny female standup
[00:54:47] <SirFinkus> because it's a plague?
[00:55:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Female comics are like, "I have a vagina." *pauses for audience laughter* "I have lots of sex, often with Black men" *pauses for audience laughter*
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[00:56:04] <SirFinkus> occasionally I go heckle the local comics, the females aren't even on that level, they'll just tell a story and expect it to be funny
[00:56:11] <SirFinkus> you know, girl stories
[00:56:23] <SirFinkus> the guys at least try and write jokes
[00:57:02] <Ethanol-fueled> The best joke I heard from a local female comedian was that "Black guys" and "Black eyes" were the same
[00:57:15] <SirFinkus> last time I went, a landwhale was talking about how she was walking around the house naked and forgot she left the blinds open and was SO embarrassed
[00:57:28] * Ethanol-fueled kneads dick
[00:57:47] <SirFinkus> I was trying to bait an amy schumer response, given current events
[00:58:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeech. She's like Lena Dunham. Not funny, but a Jew, so everybody gets to know about her.
[00:58:35] <SirFinkus> naw, dude, she's been mencia'd
[00:58:43] <SirFinkus> she's been ripping off jokes for years
[00:58:55] <SirFinkus> and it just went "viral"
[00:59:03] <SirFinkus> as much as I hate the term
[00:59:07] <Ethanol-fueled> that's so lame.
[00:59:11] <SirFinkus> it was on GMA
[00:59:29] <SirFinkus> it's hilarious, I can't stand amy schumer
[00:59:35] <Ethanol-fueled> I've heard local comedians are using the "Jew-Jitsu joke"
[00:59:47] <SirFinkus> even if the jokes worked, her stage presence is awful
[00:59:54] <SirFinkus> after every joke she begs for laughs
[01:00:06] <SirFinkus> her body language says "I mean, rigth?!?"
[01:01:30] <SirFinkus> oh, and did you that when she was younger she shoplifted over 100k worth of shit?
[01:02:02] <Ethanol-fueled> I didn't hear that but would have no trouble believing it.
[01:02:19] <Ethanol-fueled> shoplifing is the crime of
[01:02:27] <Ethanol-fueled> "pay more attention to me, mommy and daddy!"
[01:03:06] <SirFinkus> I just love watching the implosion
[01:03:20] <Ethanol-fueled> what implosion?
[01:03:23] <SirFinkus> only reason I know about her is that my sister is a huge fan
[01:03:26] <SirFinkus> of her career
[01:03:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, haha
[01:03:36] <Ethanol-fueled> fink, is your sister legal?
[01:03:41] <SirFinkus> yes
[01:03:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Pic or gtfo
[01:03:51] <SirFinkus> don't have one
[01:03:59] <Ethanol-fueled> you cold-hearted bastard.
[01:04:10] <SirFinkus> she's batshit
[01:04:15] <Ethanol-fueled> all women are...
[01:04:24] <SirFinkus> more batshit
[01:04:38] <SirFinkus> been committed batshit
[01:04:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Iv'e dated the 'Menace. On multiple occasions. I think I can handle batshit.
[01:05:17] <crutchy> http://espn.go.com
[01:05:23] <shekel> ^ 03Chargers to remain in San Diego for 2016; deal reached with Rams if long-term solution not worked out
[01:05:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Now that is beautiful, crutchy.
[01:05:43] <SirFinkus> Bill Burr is pretty funny, I like his podcast
[01:06:05] <SirFinkus> even though I don't like sports and that's pretty much all he talks about
[01:06:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Anything can be funny if you're a dickhead...even sports...ask Jim Rome.
[01:06:39] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, Spanos tried to fuck over the fans and the NFL fucked him over.
[01:06:54] <Ethanol-fueled> He's either gonna have to pony up for a stadium somewhere else or renovate Qualcomm.
[01:07:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Poetic justice...if there was such a thing with fucking gazillionarires. \
[01:07:23] <crutchy> http://in.reuters.com
[01:07:24] <shekel> ^ 03Stocks jump worldwide as Bank of Japan rate goes negative| Reuters
[01:07:30] <SirFinkus> he'll just do what everyone else does
[01:07:33] <SirFinkus> get the city to pay for it
[01:07:40] * crutchy wonders how long till fed goes negative
[01:08:07] <Ethanol-fueled> He tried, Fink...he tried. If that fucking dump Carson or Inglewood want to donate to his stadium, let them.
[01:08:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Nobody will go out to carson and everybody will get shot the fuck up in Inglewood.
[01:08:32] <crutchy> ol janet yellen would have been giving herself a good friggin over what the boj did
[01:08:46] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, if those fuckers try negative interest rates on my monies I'm grabbin' muh gun.
[01:09:30] <crutchy> they will because it already has proven to inflate stocks. that's all they care about
[01:09:44] <SirFinkus> I don't understand, why doesn't the government just print more money? Then everybody could be rich
[01:10:08] <SirFinkus> Washington just needs some common sense politicians
[01:10:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Guaranted minimum income for all....regardless!
[01:10:24] <SirFinkus> you know, guys you'd want to have a beer with
[01:10:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Karl Rove sounds like a cool guy to have a beer with.
[01:10:57] <SirFinkus> actually, it'd be pretty fun to have a beer with one of the real lizard people like Karl Rove
[01:10:58] <SirFinkus> lol
[01:10:59] <crutchy> they only say that printing money is good for a while. if they actually kept printing money they know there's a risk of ending up like zimbabwe
[01:11:05] <SirFinkus> or Cheney
[01:11:10] <SirFinkus> get them drunk and ranting
[01:11:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Cheney would rant, and probably shoot you with his CCW, but Rove would probably be bro-tier
[01:12:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Even Obama would be bro-tier assuming that the "bathhouse Barry" rumors aren't true.
[01:12:23] <SirFinkus> oh shit
[01:12:29] <SirFinkus> you know who the best would be?
[01:12:30] <SirFinkus> putin
[01:12:43] <crutchy> putin would be awesome to have a beer with
[01:12:45] <SirFinkus> he'd probably put polonium in your drink though
[01:12:54] <SirFinkus> bring the geiger counter
[01:12:58] <Ethanol-fueled> putin is kinda weird.
[01:13:02] <crutchy> except i'd probably be shitting myself the whole time
[01:13:19] <crutchy> yeah maybe not awesome
[01:13:26] <SirFinkus> but if you got him talking
[01:13:32] <SirFinkus> you'd hear some shit
[01:13:54] <SirFinkus> he's also pretty funny
[01:14:12] <crutchy> yeah and then at the end "hahaha... yeah... well... so sorry but now i have to kill you"
[01:14:28] <SirFinkus> I watched one of his q/a things during that crimea thing, and he was asked jokingly about taking back alaska too
[01:14:39] <SirFinkus> and he said there were no plans to annex ice crimea
[01:14:47] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHAH
[01:16:11] <crutchy> if russia invaded alaska, what could the US really do? send bombers and tanks maybe, but at risk of starting ww3. i dunno if any potus would have the balls
[01:16:48] <SirFinkus> angela merkel is afraid of dogs, so once when putin met with her he brought this dog in with him https://static-ssl.businessinsider.com
[01:17:00] <SirFinkus> just to fuck with her
[01:17:01] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAH, if russia invaded Alaska, WWIII would have been started as soon as the radars on the coast and aleutian islands detected the movements.
[01:17:10] <Ethanol-fueled> That was awesome, Fink.
[01:17:30] <SirFinkus> that's a funny thing to do
[01:17:31] <Ethanol-fueled> She's afraid of Black dogs, but she'll invite millions of them into the country
[01:17:44] <crutchy> but would anyone in america really have the cahunas to start a nuclear war with russia?
[01:17:45] <SirFinkus> like paint a yellow brick road in front of a midget's house
[01:17:49] <SirFinkus> *painting
[01:18:11] <SirFinkus> to defend alaska? shit yes
[01:18:13] <Ethanol-fueled> No big wars will be started.
[01:18:19] <SirFinkus> natural resources out the ass
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[01:18:33] <crutchy> i doubt it
[01:18:41] <crutchy> you guys are all war'd out
[01:18:48] <crutchy> and almost broke
[01:18:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh yeah, war is very unpopular amonst our public.
[01:19:01] <SirFinkus> that's because all the wars have been bullshit
[01:19:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Now at least.
[01:19:16] <SirFinkus> if russia invaded the US, that would change instantly
[01:19:22] <SirFinkus> or any other country
[01:19:27] <SirFinkus> invaded I mean
[01:19:28] <Ethanol-fueled> or if...a FALSE FLAG were to happen.
[01:19:36] <crutchy> maybe. i dunno if russia would buy that though
[01:19:43] <crutchy> they have balls
[01:19:48] <Ethanol-fueled> like the Ziti virus
[01:19:51] <SirFinkus> russia wouldn't do it because they're not retarded
[01:20:03] <crutchy> they might just to test
[01:20:18] <SirFinkus> invade alaska as a test?
[01:20:21] <SirFinkus> lolololol
[01:20:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, that is pretty hilarious....because the EU is the only bloc of powers which is acting the most collectively retarted now.
[01:20:29] <crutchy> not full scale invasion
[01:20:35] <crutchy> more like what they did in ukraine
[01:20:39] <crutchy> 'little green men'
[01:20:48] <SirFinkus> not even that crutchy
[01:20:55] <crutchy> then deny it
[01:20:56] <SirFinkus> would not happen
[01:21:14] <SirFinkus> crimea is an entirely different situation
[01:21:20] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.infowars.com
[01:21:26] <shekel> ^ 03Afghan Migrant In Austria Anally Rapes 72-year-old Woman; Will Not Be Deported » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
[01:21:32] * Ethanol-fueled chuckles
[01:21:33] <SirFinkus> they're invading a weak country, in areas with sympathetic locals
[01:21:42] <crutchy> maybe he tried the front but it was a bit rough
[01:21:50] <SirFinkus> that generally considered themselves russians anyway
[01:22:03] <crutchy> yeah
[01:22:09] <crutchy> i dunno really. just speculating
[01:22:30] <crutchy> wouldn't put it passed ol putin to do anything though
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[01:22:43] <SirFinkus> he's not dumb though
[01:22:44] <crutchy> he's even more cowboy than cowboys
[01:22:53] <Ethanol-fueled> The downing of the airliner was the first falst flag, but nobody fell for it. In fact it got Pootin Crimea
[01:22:53] <SirFinkus> what does he gain by invading alaska?
[01:23:26] <crutchy> true, but its because he's not dumb that makes him dangerous
[01:23:31] <crutchy> to his enemies anyway
[01:23:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Turkey tried to provoke Rossiya with the downing of the fighter, but Rossiya didn't jump.
[01:23:53] <SirFinkus> http://media.moddb.com this airliner?
[01:24:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Who are paying and directing the migrant hordes to europa? Turkey? Or the Russkies? Or America, nullifying the friendly threat to its hegemony?
[01:24:45] <Ethanol-fueled> I remember that, Fink. that was some fucked up shit.
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[01:25:18] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[01:25:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Yo.
[01:26:15] <crutchy> ~g'day BadCoderFinger
[01:26:16] * exec diabolically pours an assfull of boogers for BadCoderFinger
[01:26:27] <crutchy> buttsnot. noice
[01:27:59] <BadCoderFinger> Hey crutchy!
[01:28:06] <BadCoderFinger> Hey EF, what's the rant of the day?
[01:28:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Too tired to rant.
[01:28:51] <BadCoderFinger> Not sure what I'll do with the boogers, but I could use the spare ass at work. Mine gets chewed on because my mouth outruns my brain.
[01:29:11] <BadCoderFinger> Ethanol-fueled: Oh come on, man! You haven't been on a good tear in a while.
[01:29:41] <SirFinkus> probably because Sarah Sharp won't respond to his emails
[01:30:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah. lotta boring shit going on that I can't be drunk for.
[01:30:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Work is way too exhausting
[01:30:38] <BadCoderFinger> "Can't be drunk for" does not appear in my dictionary!
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[01:31:01] <SirFinkus> I get lit whenever I have to write for my anthro class, seems to work out well
[01:31:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, you should include Tom Shelley in your references for your anthro papers
[01:31:59] <Ethanol-fueled> er...Tom Shelly
[01:32:01] <BadCoderFinger> Heh. I get a bit lit for yearly reviews. Or as I call them, "I love me and so does the company!" papers.
[01:32:31] <SirFinkus> in my last one, I destroyed the article I was assigned using only citations from the article itself
[01:32:34] <BadCoderFinger> I used to use the Dilbert Mission Statement Generator. But they got wise to that.
[01:32:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice, Fink
[01:33:55] <Ethanol-fueled> I never get lit before work unless I'm working a shit job
[01:34:31] <BadCoderFinger> There are non-shit jobs? Where? I'll go, I don't even need a reason!
[01:35:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Good point.
[01:35:49] <BadCoderFinger> Plus, the real advantage of a shit job, you can rant about your coworkers and management in IRC!
[01:35:53] <Ethanol-fueled> that movie American Beauty was really stupid, but the part about the mid-life crisis and giving up the office job to get high and flip burghers all day was pretty cool
[01:36:34] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, it was a mid-life-crisis-fantasy movie.
[01:37:58] <SirFinkus> I think to a point it helps me write, makes me more ballsy
[01:38:10] <SirFinkus> I use too many wiggle words sober
[01:38:15] <Ethanol-fueled> what, fink? A shit job or American Beauty?
[01:38:41] <SirFinkus> booze
[01:38:43] <BadCoderFinger> My honesty threshold is 3 beers. After that, you're bloody hearing what I think of you.
[01:38:52] <SirFinkus> hitchen's peak
[01:39:00] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[01:39:19] * Ethanol-fueled wrote all his best troll-journals sober
[01:39:26] <SirFinkus> I read back what I wrote and it isn't incoherent babble, so I must be doing something right
[01:40:03] <Ethanol-fueled> It dumbs you down. And if you think too much, that's a good thing when making a point or communicating with normie scum.
[01:40:16] <SirFinkus> any of my wall of text posts on soylentnew usually involves 2 beers
[01:40:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Those are pretty good
[01:41:34] <SirFinkus> oh, I brought up an uncomfortable question in class today
[01:42:09] <Ethanol-fueled> what was it?
[01:42:26] <SirFinkus> we watched a video (what else would we do in a classroom) about how doctors in india aren't allowed to tell women the gender of their fetus so they won't abort the girls
[01:42:51] <SirFinkus> which everyone thought was terrible
[01:42:58] <SirFinkus> that they'd abort only the girls
[01:43:14] <SirFinkus> so I asked if women should have to justify their abortions
[01:43:20] <SirFinkus> which broke a few minds I think
[01:44:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Brilliant.
[01:44:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Inducing cognitive dissonnance in the cunts.
[01:45:29] <SirFinkus> the conclusion they came to was that it was bad that they were aborting the girls, but better than killing them later
[01:45:51] <SirFinkus> and anger
[01:46:01] <SirFinkus> got the evil eye from some dyke
[01:46:04] <SirFinkus> what does she care?
[01:46:37] <SirFinkus> she's not going to get pregnant from cunnilingus
[01:46:46] <crutchy> abortion is an issue. just not for the federal government
[01:46:53] <Ethanol-fueled> !grab SirFinkus
[01:46:53] <Bender> Added quote 659
[01:47:08] <crutchy> worse case the states can take care of it
[01:47:28] <crutchy> then if someone wants to abort and they're in a state than bans it, they can move to a different state
[01:47:39] <SirFinkus> I don't really care/know enough about the issue to have a good opinion on it
[01:47:40] <BadCoderFinger> People often find the weirdest things to get on a crusade about.
[01:47:42] <Ethanol-fueled> abortion is an issue only for countries where people abort based on gender
[01:47:49] <Ethanol-fueled> philosophy be damned.
[01:48:10] <crutchy> but people seem to still get their knickers in a twist about it, on both sides
[01:48:15] <SirFinkus> both sides seem ridiculously absolutionist, no room for nuance
[01:48:22] <Ethanol-fueled> In modern countries we abort because the babby's unwanted or gonna live a horrible life of being a ratard or vegetabel
[01:48:23] <crutchy> so if they're gunna fight, fight in state legislature
[01:48:50] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[01:49:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Let those people which abort based on gender do so. Let them turn their societies into inbred hives of sex-starved male neets
[01:49:45] <Ethanol-fueled> BahahahahHAAAAAAA
[01:50:03] <SirFinkus> my first suck at the issue is that the first trimester stuff should be legal, and generally available
[01:50:10] <SirFinkus> latter it gets more and more iffy
[01:50:14] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Bytram!
[01:50:16] <SirFinkus> later even
[01:50:48] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i think that's how its looked at here too
[01:50:55] <crutchy> first trimester not normally an issue
[01:51:13] <SirFinkus> but really, both sides of the debate seem retarded
[01:51:19] <crutchy> true
[01:51:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Third-trimester abortion is nasty and no doubt the baby feels pain from it, but would you want to subject a kid to a nasty, brutish life of being unwanted?
[01:51:46] <SirFinkus> the anti abortion guys think life begins when the guy jizzes, and the pro abortion people want to abort all the things
[01:51:55] <Ethanol-fueled> You would rather see a likelihood of somebody living a miserable life than dying quickly before they know what life is?
[01:52:10] <crutchy> so if i whack off am i a mass murderer?
[01:52:13] <Ethanol-fueled> I believe in nuance too, but I also believe in euthanasia. Bahah
[01:52:18] <SirFinkus> at a certain point, it doesn't become the mother's choice
[01:52:19] <crutchy> mass spermicide
[01:52:38] <crutchy> guns don't kill, hands do!
[01:52:43] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, our dirty socks are mass-graves. Oy Vey, dat wuz a HOLOCAUST!
[01:52:55] <SirFinkus> towels are better
[01:52:59] <SirFinkus> more absorbant
[01:53:29] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger: g'day
[01:53:32] <Bytram> !uid
[01:53:33] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6067, owned by Demose
[01:53:59] <SirFinkus> bloodstained children's underwear works pretty well too
[01:54:02] <Ethanol-fueled> I know Demose personally. His real name is De'Moselle Jones
[01:54:13] <crutchy> at least if a chick gives you head you can accuse her of mass cannibalism :p
[01:54:14] <Ethanol-fueled> That's disgusting, Fink.
[01:54:29] <SirFinkus> yeah, that might have been over the line
[01:54:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Who are you, Muslim?
[01:54:52] <Ethanol-fueled> It's okay if you're Muslim, Fink. The Swedes and Germans would award you a medal for saying it.
[01:54:55] <SirFinkus> no, Nation of Islam
[01:55:00] <crutchy> ~g'day Bytram o/
[01:55:01] * exec suspiciously hurls a bathtub of Debian at Bytram
[01:55:04] <SirFinkus> which I think I get even more points for
[01:55:20] <Bytram> looks like we gained 14 new users so far today
[01:55:32] <crutchy> noice
[01:55:35] <paulej72> Ploop
[01:55:51] <Bytram> paulej72: how's the tooth?
[01:55:58] <paulej72> Good
[01:56:00] <Bytram> crutchy: g'day!!
[01:56:03] <Bytram> glad to hear it!
[01:56:12] <crutchy> ahoy! paulej72
[01:56:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, it's really not much more bad than the joke we told on the schoolyard as kids:
[01:56:33] <Ethanol-fueled> "ever fuck a pregnant woman and feel something grab your dick?"
[01:57:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Of course, that is scientifically impossible.
[01:57:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley, you get your tooth jacked?
[01:57:42] <paulej72> Rejacked
[01:58:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Drunken brawling at bars again?
[01:58:09] <Ethanol-fueled> That's New Jersey for you.
[01:58:19] <SirFinkus> tooth extraction is a jewish plot to exact revenge on whites for removing their gold teeth during the holocaust
[01:58:22] <paulej72> Root canal redo after 14 years
[01:58:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Holy fuck. Sorry man, but enjoy your pills. Bahaha.
[01:59:47] <SirFinkus> I suspect my gum graft was worse
[01:59:53] <SirFinkus> haven't had a root canal
[02:00:03] <SirFinkus> but holy shit my gum graft was bad
[02:00:11] <crutchy> me neither, thank $deity
[02:00:16] <cmn32480> yo couldn't jsut chew up more?
[02:00:28] <SirFinkus> HOME RUN cmn32480
[02:00:35] <paulej72> If it was not for the abscess I would not be in pain right now
[02:00:47] <SirFinkus> my shit got infected
[02:01:04] <cmn32480> sorry SirFinkus, I coudln't help it
[02:01:05] <SirFinkus> it would swell up, burst pus all over my mouth, then fill up again
[02:01:13] <crutchy> oh dude
[02:01:15] <paulej72> On antibiotics and taking aleve for the bit of discomfort
[02:01:18] <SirFinkus> and blood
[02:01:34] <SirFinkus> they didn't even give you hydros paulej72?
[02:01:36] <SirFinkus> stingy fucks
[02:01:58] <Ethanol-fueled> no hydros or vikes?
[02:02:10] <Ethanol-fueled> and smoking or eating weed is out of the question (dat dry-cocket)
[02:02:13] <cmn32480> let me call the WHAAAAAAAAMMMMM-bulance for you sirfinkue
[02:02:27] <Ethanol-fueled> dry socket
[02:02:32] <cmn32480> I got a papercut today!
[02:02:42] <paulej72> Once the root is canaled there is not much left to keep you in pain. The nerves are gone.
[02:02:45] * SirFinkus slips cmn32480 a hydrocodone
[02:03:08] * cmn32480 greatfully accepts
[02:03:20] <paulej72> I got a sheet metal cut the other day
[02:03:29] * SirFinkus is listening to The Velvet Underground — I'm Waiting For The Man, from the album The Velvet Underground & Nico
[02:03:50] <cmn32480> I found that the best thing after getting my wisdom teeth out was a wet Lipton (or some other brand) teabag in the socket to help dull the pain
[02:04:15] <SirFinkus> I'd rather have someone piss in my mouth than drink lipton
[02:04:23] <crutchy> o.O
[02:04:44] * crutchy is unable to make such comparison :p
[02:04:56] <SirFinkus> lipton is shit
[02:05:05] <SirFinkus> undrinkable
[02:05:14] <crutchy> i'm not a fan of tea anyway
[02:05:33] <SirFinkus> good tea is delicious
[02:05:48] <paulej72> When I got my wisdom teeth out I was on Percocet, but not for very long. Did not take a full course.
[02:06:11] <SirFinkus> yeah, real talk, that shit scares the crap out of me
[02:06:18] <cmn32480> put a teabag in the socket from the removed tooth
[02:06:21] <cmn32480> nofgra
[02:06:35] <SirFinkus> I take as few as possible
[02:06:39] <cmn32480> and the tea has a natural pain killer in it, and helps to prevent dry sockets
[02:07:04] <SirFinkus> so does cunnilingus
[02:07:17] <SirFinkus> unless it's the *other* socket
[02:07:27] <paulej72> My gums were stitched closed over my wisdom teeth so no sockets to deal with
[02:07:29] <crutchy> my wife drinks dilmah tea
[02:07:34] <cmn32480> the "other" socket requires KY
[02:07:37] <crutchy> got nfi how good it is though
[02:08:36] <cmn32480> when I get good tea, I get it from these guys:
[02:08:38] <cmn32480> http://www.svtea.com
[02:08:43] <shekel> ^ 03Simpson Vail High Quality, Specialty Teas since 1929
[02:08:58] <cmn32480> that they are also a customer of my company doesn't hurt
[02:09:39] <Ethanol-fueled> tea--
[02:09:39] <Bender> karma - tea: 526
[02:09:42] <Ethanol-fueled> coffee++
[02:09:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2141
[02:09:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Coffee fuck yeah
[02:09:54] <cmn32480> coffee++ is great
[02:09:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2142
[02:10:00] <crutchy> coffee++
[02:10:00] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2143
[02:10:12] <cmn32480> but a nice cup of good tea is wonderful to help relax
[02:10:15] <cmn32480> tea++
[02:10:16] <Bender> karma - tea: 527
[02:10:33] <cmn32480> tea++ #for zz_janrinok
[02:10:33] <Bender> karma - tea: 528
[02:10:54] <crutchy> zz_janrinok sounds like a rock star name :p
[02:11:07] <Ethanol-fueled> zz_top are fucking badass.
[02:11:21] * Ethanol-fueled didn't know Billy Gibbons was trained in the arts of the Brown Menace
[02:12:21] <cmn32480> zz_janrinok is a rock star
[02:12:34] <cmn32480> he's just on LOA atm
[02:15:51] <cmn32480> remember, jan and lamx kept the queues full for months virtually by themselves.
[02:16:17] <cmn32480> anybody think we will get some exodus from the newest /. news?
[02:16:30] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't know.
[02:16:53] <cmn32480> there were a surprising number of comments that mention SN in the discussion
[02:16:58] <cmn32480> some good, soe critical
[02:17:57] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm going to check it out now. But stay silent this time.
[02:18:23] <cmn32480> F***Beta!
[02:19:02] <SirFinkus> "Pet Wearables? But Seriously, Folks... (Video)"
[02:19:21] <SirFinkus> I thought I was on the msn homepage for second
[02:19:54] <SirFinkus> share on facebook buttons
[02:20:09] <cmn32480> that's in the next update that rolls out in a couple weeks
[02:20:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahaah half a page scroll down and already a mention of how quickly SN implemented unicode
[02:20:20] * Ethanol-fueled rubs hands together, kneads dick
[02:20:36] <cmn32480> when I was there a few hours back there were 35 or so references to us
[02:21:04] <Bytram> cmn32480: we signed up 14 new accts so far on 2016-01-29
[02:21:11] <cmn32480> lol
[02:21:15] <cmn32480> big day!
[02:21:18] <cmn32480> !uid
[02:21:18] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6067, owned by Demose
[02:21:23] <cmn32480> ~uid
[02:21:25] <exec> The current maximum UID is 6067, owned by Demose
[02:21:47] <cmn32480> there will be more
[02:22:23] <cmn32480> excellent. I'm glad of it
[02:22:50] <cmn32480> hopefully, they are the good ones, not the numbskulls'
[02:23:29] <Bytram> cmn32480: we averaged 1 or 2 new accts each day this month except: 5 on 1/7, 3 on 1/10, 4 on 1/24, 5 on 1/26, and 14 on 1/29
[02:24:16] <cmn32480> might be a correlation there... ya think?
[02:24:51] * cmn32480 wonders if timothy/samzenpuss/souskill are any of them
[02:24:58] <cmn32480> or if they still ahve jobs
[02:25:51] <Bytram> 2015-10: 44 accts; 2015-11 34 accts; 2015-12: 45 accts; 2016-01: 56 (so far)
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[02:27:17] <Ethanol-fueled> The names of those three are forever tained.
[02:27:22] <Bytram> as I recall, someone signed up an acct with a /. editor's nick which had us all excited until we realized it was a fake. then someone in staff created accts for all the /. staff for safekeeping
[02:27:37] <Ethanol-fueled> tainted even. Good thing about the internet, though, is that's its easy to be born again under a pseudonym
[02:27:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Bytram, was that Pudge?
[02:28:28] <Bytram> he was not one of the ones we reserved
[02:28:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahaha
[02:28:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[02:28:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Fake Pudge was pretty funny
[02:29:25] * Bytram recalls someone DID sign up as pudge, participated for awhile, and rage quit
[02:30:03] <SirFinkus> "Where the hell did Beta go? Everyone here seemed on board and then whoosh, nothing. Like a giant vacuum where no one can hear you compliment the web 3.0 interface. It's a wasted opportunity."
[02:30:05] <SirFinkus> lol
[02:31:11] <cmn32480> all three /. ed's nicks are taken
[02:31:18] <Bytram> offhand, I see that these actts are all reserved: "CowboyNeal" "samzenpus" "timothy" "Soulskill" "CmdrTaco"
[02:31:20] <cmn32480> or were signed up
[02:31:40] <cmn32480> yes
[02:31:55] * Ethanol-fueled gets all serious reading that Slashdot discusion
[02:31:56] <cmn32480> but I think the eds were all faked and reserved after the fact
[02:32:14] * cmn32480 waits for the serious to come out his ears
[02:32:50] <cmn32480> it was 1100 comments last I saw.... EF is gonna be reading a good long while
[02:32:51] <Bytram> yeah, I mentioned that above... there was someone who signed up under the name of one of the Eds... we all went WOW! the realized it was a fake, and then reserved all the Ed nicks should they wish to claim 'em later.
[02:33:09] <cmn32480> i thought it was all three
[02:33:14] <cmn32480> but i am likely wrong
[02:33:21] <cmn32480> today is Friday, right?
[02:33:36] <Bytram> offhand, I see that these accts are all reserved: "CowboyNeal" "samzenpus" "timothy" "Soulskill" "CmdrTaco"
[02:33:41] <Bytram> yes, it's friday
[02:34:16] <cmn32480> thank God
[02:34:26] <cmn32480> i don't hink I could stand another weekday
[02:34:50] <Bytram> hmmm: http://techcrunch.com
[02:34:51] <shekel> ^ 03Tesla Says CEO Elon Musk Just Bought More of The Company | TechCrunch ( http://techcrunch.com )
[02:35:22] <Bytram> he just bought $100m in options
[02:35:52] <Ethanol-fueled> If Timothy is here, I want to tell him to stop acting like a goddamn stereotypical Jew.
[02:36:04] <Ethanol-fueled> tesla++
[02:36:04] <Bender> karma - tesla: 1
[02:36:11] <Ethanol-fueled> prius++
[02:36:11] <Bender> karma - prius: 1
[02:36:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Okay, good. If Prius was higher than Tesla, I'd kickban myself right now.
[02:37:02] <paulej72> prius_drivers--
[02:37:02] <Bender> karma - prius_drivers: -1
[02:38:05] <paulej72> Damn hyper milers
[02:38:20] <Ethanol-fueled> hyper-miling on an all-gas stick-shift is cool.
[02:38:59] <Ethanol-fueled> priuses are more "look how righteous we are" and their drivers are all wimps and lesbians...and we all know none of those can drive well.
[02:39:28] * Bytram took his car in to get brakes replaced at 98k miles; come to find out, they were not set correctly... only the front brakes were engaging and the back brakes were barely worn. double-clutch and down shift FTW
[02:39:49] <Ethanol-fueled> was pretty horrified to read my owners manual after a couple years of driving the car, only to see it read, "never put your car in neutral while driving, you need to engine brake always just in case"
[02:39:51] <Ethanol-fueled> WUT
[02:40:25] <SirFinkus> hyper-miling?
[02:40:34] <Ethanol-fueled> What do you think about engine-braking, Bytram?
[02:40:40] <paulej72> I can afford to to go 80 mph, even though I gear much better gas mileage at the posted speed limit
[02:40:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Gunk on Your Teeth is Beautiful and Well Organized - http://sylnt.us - micro-dentistry
[02:40:57] <cmn32480> back in a bit... kids heading to bed
[02:41:01] <Ethanol-fueled> fink - basically being a gas jew. For example, with a gas stick-shift, coasting in neutral as much as possible
[02:41:07] * Bytram waves to cmn32480 and his kids
[02:41:19] <SirFinkus> ahh
[02:41:22] * SirFinkus might try that
[02:41:26] <SirFinkus> just for fun
[02:41:38] <Bytram> Ethanol-fueled: I'm all for engine braking. even though my current car has an auto transmission, I take advantage of engine braking where I can.
[02:41:39] <SirFinkus> aggressive shifting is much more fun though
[02:42:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Bytram, engine-braking is one of those things I always disliked as a redneck artifact. Sure, it's loud, and if you have passengers who don't know how to drive stick it's fun and it excites them, but it's fuckbad for the clutch.
[02:43:12] <Bytram> never had a problem with it because I always double-clutched to match engine revs before re-engaging gears
[02:43:15] <Ethanol-fueled> and the clutch in an FWD transaxle is a bitch to replace
[02:43:58] <Bytram> oh, let me be clear. I generally do NOT downshift an auto tranny to slow the car down; just let up on the gas and let the parasitic losses and engine slow me down some.
[02:44:10] <Bytram> on a stick shift, then I'd double clutch and down shift
[02:44:26] <Bytram> had the original clutch in that car when I took it in for brakes at 98k miles
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[02:44:35] <Ethanol-fueled> no shit. Pretty good.
[02:44:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I like the stick-mode on plebe auto trannys now though
[02:45:13] <Bytram> haven't had a chance to try one.
[02:45:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Where you shift into "D" and then can do up or down in steps.
[02:45:23] <Runaway1956> EF - engine braking isn't bad, unless an aggressive jerk is doing the downshifting.
[02:45:30] <Ethanol-fueled> just a flick of the wrist, really
[02:45:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Runaway1956, it's bad for the clutch.
[02:45:57] <SirFinkus> I have 138k miles on my car, original clutch
[02:46:01] <SirFinkus> engine brake all the time
[02:46:07] <Ethanol-fueled> bullshit, fink.
[02:46:09] <Runaway1956> I drove truck for years, downshifting doesn't wear a clutch out, unless you're doing it wrong.
[02:46:17] <Ethanol-fueled> what do you drive, an 18-speed?
[02:46:32] * Bytram had an 18-speed bicycle once
[02:46:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Runaway1956, but you got the Jake Brake too
[02:46:36] <SirFinkus> ford focus
[02:46:37] <Runaway1956> I've driven everything up to an 18 speed
[02:46:51] <SirFinkus> it's fine as long as you can match the revs
[02:46:58] <Runaway1956> and no, not all trucks have jake brakes - they cost extra, a lot of owners won't buy them
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[02:47:23] <Runaway1956> That is key to downshifting SirFinkus - get the revolutions right, and it slips into place.
[02:47:49] * Ethanol-fueled once saw a motherfucker drive a car with no clutch
[02:47:57] <paulej72> Thing with 18 speed, you basically rev it up,sir a,few seconds and it is time to up shift again
[02:47:58] <Ethanol-fueled> starting in reverse.
[02:48:11] <SanityCheck> we need to launch a spin off of soylent, that will be total polar opposite of jezebel, and we can talk about autos
[02:48:16] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, you have like high and low for every gear.
[02:48:57] <Runaway1956> Correct, a flick of the thumb shifts from 5th to 6th, you have to move the shifter to go from 6th to 7th
[02:49:41] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm talking about plebe cars, Runaway1956. You move the shifter in an irregular Benz-style path toward the "D" position.
[02:49:53] <Runaway1956> depending on which transmission you have - not all 18 speeds have the same shift pattern
[02:49:54] <paulej72> Yeah I know, my dad was a coal truck driver. 13 speed Rockwell in a 76 Mack R body with the 8 cylinder Mack engine
[02:50:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Then in that position there is a little upper and lower detent for flicking up or down
[02:50:28] <Runaway1956> Ooooooh - 8 cylinder Mack - I could get excited here!
[02:50:53] <paulej72> He had over a million miles on that truck
[02:51:42] <Runaway1956> Uh-huh, lots of trucks go over a million miles. I've known of two that reached 14 million.
[02:52:20] <Bytram> 500k miles will (approximately) get you to the moon and back
[02:52:28] <Runaway1956> In each case, the owners retired when their trucks got to 14 million. One, an old black guy in New Jersey, the other an old cowboy in Texas.
[02:53:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Runaway, was that before truckers had to keep 2 sets of books?
[02:53:17] <Runaway1956> Truckers no longer keep log books - it's all done by computer.
[02:53:32] <SanityCheck> wait how many digits on the odometer
[02:53:33] <Runaway1956> Us bad boys didn't keep "log books" anyway - we used loose-leaf logs
[02:53:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Does that mean they actually have to sleep now?!
[02:54:01] <Runaway1956> Seven digits on the odometer
[02:54:04] * Bytram offers Runaway1956 a rake to gather his loose leafs
[02:54:10] <Bytram> =)
[02:54:14] <Runaway1956> LOL
[02:54:34] <Runaway1956> Those loose leafs went out the window, thrown into the wind like confetti
[02:54:43] <paulej72> Coal truck driving is very hard on a truck, and you don't put the miles on it like over the road driving
[02:55:01] <Bytram> that's a heavy load
[02:55:08] <Runaway1956> Yeah, coal trucks and mining trucks, and logging trucks all have pretty short lives
[02:55:13] * Ethanol-fueled plays recorder whenever Pauley speaks
[02:55:29] * Bytram records plays whenever paulej72 speaks
[02:55:33] <paulej72> But part of the trip is usually off road
[02:55:44] <Bytram> FOUR WHEELING TIME!
[02:56:40] <Runaway1956> Speaking of four wheeling - today's power dividers make all eight drive wheels drive when they are engaged. When I drove, the power divider only powered four wheels
[02:56:49] <Runaway1956> Kids have it so easy today . . .
[02:57:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Now that you mention it, Runaway1956, we do have a runaway truck ramp headed towards home base
[02:57:32] * Bytram remembers seeing some great super-truck videos on you tube
[02:58:05] <Runaway1956> Never used a runaway truck ramp - but it was a near thing one day on Fancy Gap, in Virginia . . .
[02:58:12] <paulej72> I was a diesel mechanic before I could legally drive.
[02:58:40] <Runaway1956> I've heard that from many mechanics, Paulej72
[02:58:47] <Bytram> those are the ones that go back up hill and are filled with pea-sized gravel?
[02:59:06] <paulej72> I would help my dad work on his truck. We did everything in house except block machining
[02:59:25] <Bytram> impressive
[02:59:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Bytram, The one I mentioned doesn't go back up hill. But it gots plenty of gravel.
[02:59:33] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:59:51] <Bytram> I've seen a couple of 'em in mid-state NH and VT
[02:59:56] * Runaway1956 never tinkered inside of a truck engine or transmission
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[03:00:26] <Runaway1956> Oh crap - time to stop badmouthing crutchy
[03:00:57] * Runaway1956 should eat something . . . .
[03:01:13] * Ethanol-fueled listens to the Grateful Dead's "Truckin'" after pretending to know about trucks.
[03:01:39] <paulej72> We did engines at my grandfathers truck garage all the time. He owned a dozen coal trucks. The trannies lasted longer so we did not do them as often
[03:03:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[03:03:17] * Ethanol-fueled is jealous
[03:03:23] * Runaway1956 tore up a tranny one night - ancient International Emeryville
[03:03:31] <paulej72> Breaks, tires, lubing, were common stuff. Rear end rebuilds were common
[03:03:53] <Runaway1956> power divider locked up, and royaly screwed up both axles and tranny
[03:03:57] <Bytram> Runaway1956: how did you do THAT?
[03:04:02] <Bytram> oh.
[03:04:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup, a lot of my friends are in that scene. My ex's dat owned an empire of trucks.
[03:04:13] <Bytram> musta made quite a racket?
[03:05:00] <Runaway1956> Oh yes, sent shrapnel into the sleeper and the fuel tanks when the U-joint finally came apart too
[03:05:17] <cmn32480> bytram - I think he meant he tore up a tranny on night in the sleeper of his ancient International Emeryville while parked at a truck stop.
[03:05:37] <cmn32480> least... that's what I read
[03:05:42] * Runaway1956 notes that cmn32480 is evil
[03:05:58] <Bytram> what he do?
[03:05:58] <Ethanol-fueled> cmn, meth and an abundance of lot lizards will do that
[03:06:08] <paulej72> Remember the power dividers and how they whew studded with teeth that would slide in and out to move the power between the axels. The teeth would shear and cause the whole thing to fail
[03:06:11] * cmn32480 notes that Runaway1956 isn't nearly as smart as cmn32480 thought he was if it took this long to figure that out
[03:06:29] <Runaway1956> lol
[03:06:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley, that's some rube goldberg shit
[03:07:07] * Bytram cringes ever time he hears someone miss a shift and grinds their gears... cannot even begin to imagine what it sounded like when that tranny went.
[03:07:25] <cmn32480> probably OOO OOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
[03:07:41] <paulej72> My one uncle did body work and paint jobs. We replaced the entire cab on some of the trucks leaving only the firewall and floor.
[03:07:47] <Runaway1956> Well, it only lasted for fifteen or twenty seconds - then the claws stopped raking through my soul
[03:08:35] <Bytram> Runaway1956: omg; I laughed and cringed at the same time. perfect description!
[03:10:22] <Runaway1956> I just KNEW that I was going to get fired for that, but the boss just laughed. He said those Emeryvilles were known for failing power dividers. Mine was just a little more spectactular than most that fail at low speed.
[03:10:53] <paulej72> Fiberglass hoods were fun to repair. Took two halves of two different model year hoods to make a new one. Has to do some work on the one fender to get it to match the other one
[03:11:08] <Bytram> btw, before I lose this thought: we would do well to scour the stories here and on /. about /. getting sold to see if there are any good suggestions for improvements that we would make to SoylentNews.
[03:11:29] <Bytram> looks like TheMightyBuzzard's implementing UTF-8 was a BIG win in the comments on /.
[03:11:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Bytram - I didn;t read them all, but I read many. And they're itching for more liberty.
[03:12:30] <Ethanol-fueled> First and foremost, to allow more dissenting opinion and implement groupthink-proof measures.
[03:13:10] <Ethanol-fueled> nerds have held unpolular views since they were watching anime while jocks were getting all the girls.
[03:13:16] <Bytram> Ethanol-fueled: that is a difficult thing to write in Perl.
[03:13:53] <Bytram> I skimmed a good bunch of the +2 comments. Need to reread for content.
[03:14:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Bytram, there was one comment which suggested that the code be turn down and re-written from scratch. You guys satisfied a vast majority of their gripes without having to do that.
[03:14:21] <Ethanol-fueled> You refactored rather than rewrote.
[03:14:49] <Ethanol-fueled> The second front of the battle is on your rep. "MRAs, extremists" etc.
[03:14:53] * Runaway1956 hates when the natives are too happy
[03:14:55] <Bytram> well, I came in much later, but yes... the devs here did a GREAT job; Perl is hard to beat when it comes to text manipulation efficiency
[03:16:01] <Ethanol-fueled> To my last point I say, "wait until Trump becomes president. Then it's YOUR turn against the wall, because you didn't fight for free speech....only the speech YOU agreed with"
[03:16:32] <Ethanol-fueled> It'll be McCarthyism all over again, we'll curbstomp those whiny fucks.
[03:17:18] <Runaway1956> Where is there free speech, EF?
[03:17:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Here, there is.
[03:17:37] <Runaway1956> Oh - where do you live?
[03:17:46] <Ethanol-fueled> and niggermania.com, and stormfront.org
[03:18:03] <Runaway1956> Here in the United States, free speech grows less free all the time.
[03:18:16] <Bytram> yeah, it's available for a nominal charge
[03:20:13] <Ethanol-fueled> I liked this one, but I'm biased:
[03:20:14] <Ethanol-fueled> http://meta.slashdot.org
[03:20:16] <shekel> ^ 03Slashdot and SourceForge Sold, Now Under New Management - Slashdot ( http://slashdot.org )
[03:20:20] <Ethanol-fueled> I am in San Diego.
[03:20:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Preferable Santee/Lakeside, but stuck in City Heights.
[03:21:35] <Runaway1956> San Diego can be pretty - when it snows.
[03:21:46] <Runaway1956> Doesn't happen often though.
[03:22:31] <Bytram> I was in San Digeo for nearly a week about a decade ago; seemed like a nice city.
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[03:23:16] <Ethanol-fueled_> that was sure gross.
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[03:25:33] <Ethanol-fueled> got froze by jewish tricks.
[03:26:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, if the Slashdot refugees know where to go, they'll go.
[03:26:41] <Runaway1956> This is troubling - http://tech.slashdot.org
[03:26:44] <Ethanol-fueled> if they don't, then wherever they will go, they must rape.
[03:26:47] <shekel> ^ 03The Widely Reported ISIS Encrypted Messaging App Is Not Real - Slashdot ( http://slashdot.org )
[03:27:17] <Runaway1956> The ruling class is hell bent on getting control of all encryption methods, so they tell us all kinds of lies to "justify" their goals
[03:27:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, it's all bullshit nowadays. Believe nothing.
[03:27:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Especially when its on the internet.
[03:28:20] <Runaway1956> dammit - time to put my boots on - work, work, work . . . .
[03:29:04] <crutchy> is del mar in sna diego the same del mar with the nice beach and chillout music on youtube?
[03:29:08] <crutchy> *san
[03:29:35] <Ethanol-fueled> del mar is where everybody who is not from San Diego who visits San Diego should stay.
[03:29:56] * Bytram actually stayed in La Jolla
[03:30:18] <Ethanol-fueled> La Jolla = tourists, Jews, and Catholics.
[03:30:30] <Bytram> and collegfe students
[03:30:44] <Ethanol-fueled> and a 100% price hike for anything touristy during the summer.
[03:30:59] <Gravis> dafuq? the origami story disappeared before i could bitch about it not being origami!
[03:31:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Bytram, yeah, UCSD students too.
[03:31:32] <Ethanol-fueled> But UCSD grads would be eaten alive if they didn't have seamless hosts to flock to.
[03:31:55] <Bytram> 'seamless hosts' ??
[03:32:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Local employers with an arrangement to hire UCSD grads
[03:32:18] <cmn32480> seamless hosts... think toga.
[03:33:12] <Bytram> Like in Animal House? Toga! Toga!
[03:33:15] <Ethanol-fueled> and keep them hired no matter how much damage they cause.
[03:33:45] <Bytram> job security for thenew hires, but what does the employer get out of it except headaches?
[03:33:51] <cmn32480> so UCSD has an agreement wiht the federal gov't
[03:33:59] <Bytram> break time; biab
[03:34:02] <Bytram> afk
[03:34:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Bytram, I'm not a student there but I've been all over that campus smoking grass and passing out offensice newspapers. But the glory days of the Koala are loooong gone.
[03:38:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Time for some good old VAGINAL JESUS
[03:38:29] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[03:38:35] <shekel> ^ 03Vaginal Jesus - Coon Bashin' - YouTube
[03:47:29] <Runaway1956> Oh - speaking of encryption - the ISIS black flag has been decrypted.
[03:48:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Durka Durka - Allah Muhammad Jihad
[03:48:01] <Runaway1956> "I serve a weak, impotent, god who requires me to defend his honor."
[03:48:23] * Runaway1956 pours cup of coffee for the drive to work
[03:49:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Allah gives believers and excuse to rape. And, apparantly, there are a lot of hot blonde European women amidst a population decline which will hurt global banksters.
[03:49:50] <Ethanol-fueled> They are ready and willing to accept "refugees"
[03:50:14] <Ethanol-fueled> And unlike American women, they (mostly) aren't bitchy and entitled.
[03:52:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Let them be taken.
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[04:11:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Here’s How Hard It Will be to Unpoison Flint’s Water - http://sylnt.us - we'll-just-drink-booze
[04:12:24] <Gravis> this is actually brilliant! https://soylentnews.org
[04:12:30] <shekel> ^ 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:2, Interesting)
[04:23:39] <SirFinkus> I don't really have enough for a comment, but this is a fucking nightmare scenario
[04:23:45] <SirFinkus> as someone who's worked in that industry
[04:23:51] <SirFinkus> worst case scenario
[04:24:03] <cmn32480> which industry?
[04:24:06] <cmn32480> water or lead?
[04:24:08] <SirFinkus> water
[04:25:31] <SirFinkus> we could fix a main break in 24 hours tops in most cases, and have people with clean drinking water within 96 hours of that (mostly waiting for tests from the DOH to get back)
[04:28:35] <SirFinkus> we had enough trouble with people bitching about meter replacements
[04:28:44] <SirFinkus> and us "tearing up their lawn"
[04:29:50] <SirFinkus> even the 3k per service line thing seemed optimistic
[04:30:45] <SirFinkus> our service lines were only 2-4 feet deep and the cost at least 1.5k to replace if one of those was broken
[04:30:48] <SirFinkus> pvc I think
[04:31:05] <SirFinkus> if there was a road or something in the way, that balloons fucking fast
[04:32:03] <cmn32480> CHA CHING!
[04:33:12] <SirFinkus> we had to redo a section of asphalt driveway once, that was around 3.5k iirc
[04:48:34] <SirFinkus> oh boy
[04:48:40] <SirFinkus> teacher made a comment on my assignment
[04:53:11] <Gravis> SirFinkus: you have been admitted to the halls for Gravis friendship. few are there... none escape. resistance is futile.
[04:53:34] <SirFinkus> neat
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[04:54:05] <Gravis> :)
[04:54:06] <SirFinkus> so I guess that means no matter how many times I ask for money, you'll always be my friend
[04:54:26] <SirFinkus> because I can't escape
[04:54:50] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i wrote you couldn't escape, not that you were immortal.
[04:55:03] <Gravis> SirFinkus: but a fair point!
[04:55:06] <SirFinkus> death is an escape
[04:55:17] <SirFinkus> so that means I'm immortal!
[04:55:21] <SirFinkus> it logically follows
[04:55:45] <Gravis> oh well if i have that kind of power...
[04:55:51] <Gravis> PLUTO IS NO LONGER A PLANET!
[04:56:01] <SirFinkus> oh now you've done it
[04:56:07] <Gravis> ;D
[04:57:18] <cmn32480> what'd the nimnob prof say bouat the paper that you refuted with itself?
[04:57:22] <Gravis> SirFinkus: so you are in the water biz? interesting. here's a question, why haven't all lead pipes been removed yet?
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[04:57:35] <SirFinkus> I was
[04:57:40] <SirFinkus> we didn't have any lead pipes
[04:57:41] <Gravis> SirFinkus: or better yet, why did we ever use lead pipes?
[04:57:48] <SirFinkus> so we didn't need to remove them
[04:57:53] <SirFinkus> lead is easy to work with
[04:58:13] <SirFinkus> it isn't brittle, so it won't break as easily as other materials
[04:58:13] <cmn32480> gravis - most of the lead problems in the current drinking water are from the fixtures, not the pipes.
[04:58:30] <Gravis> cmn32480: interesting
[04:58:35] <SirFinkus> we used pvc for our service lines, which is pretty brittle
[04:58:39] <cmn32480> even current production fixtures are made with lead
[04:58:52] <Gravis> cmn32480: yeah.. gotta avoid brass for like... ever.
[04:59:18] <cmn32480> https://www.safeplumbing.org
[04:59:20] <cmn32480> correct
[04:59:25] <shekel> ^ 03Lead Pipes in Homes - Lead Free Faucets and Plumbing - SafePlumbing
[05:00:09] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i can only hope that we create something new that is specificly for pipes
[05:00:30] <SirFinkus> pvc works pretty well
[05:00:53] <SirFinkus> until a big truck runs over the meter :(
[05:01:03] * SirFinkus remembers the lawsuits we had to file
[05:01:38] <SirFinkus> wouldn't have been an issue if we had buried them deeper I suppose
[05:02:01] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i'm concerned about plastics degrading and small molecules being ingested. :/
[05:02:14] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i really need to learn chemistry. :(
[05:03:06] <Gravis> that BPA stuff scares the shit out of me
[05:03:27] <SirFinkus> my impression is that it doesn't matter, as long as you don't heat it
[05:03:31] <SirFinkus> but also not an expert
[05:03:40] <SirFinkus> the metals aren't better candidates
[05:04:24] <Gravis> SirFinkus: which is why i wrote "i can only hope that we create something new that is specificly for pipes"
[05:04:43] <cmn32480> clay
[05:04:57] <cmn32480> problem is that they are brittle as hell
[05:04:58] <SirFinkus> I'm not convinced that pvc is a particularly bad material for service lines
[05:05:41] <SirFinkus> our mains were concrete asbestos, which sounds bad, but it isn't really unless you have to dig them up and cut into them
[05:05:49] <Gravis> SirFinkus: as a 24-bit optimist, i was hoping for something better than, "not ... particularly bad material for service lines"
[05:07:07] <Gravis> SirFinkus: but really, we need the help of chemists.
[05:07:14] <SirFinkus> fair enough, but I'm not sure hoping for some paragon material is realistic, or if it were found, the cost of replacing pvc pipes would be worth it
[05:07:51] <SirFinkus> it seems like a tall order
[05:08:01] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i'm going for post-scarcity, so cost isn't an issue.
[05:08:33] <Gravis> i mean, if hexagonal diamond works, i'm all for it!
[05:09:16] <SirFinkus> you just need a material that easy to work with, tolerates the earth shifting, won't leech anything into the water, and can withstand thousands of compression/decompression cycles
[05:09:28] <SirFinkus> easy to repair too
[05:10:06] <Gravis> SirFinkus: 24-bit optimist, hello? robots do that shit. :P
[05:10:23] <cmn32480> gentlemen, a fond good evening
[05:10:29] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[05:10:31] * exec prematurely drops a coffee++ mug of ciri poo on #soylent
[05:10:42] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[05:10:46] <Gravis> cmn32480: don't die of rabbies tonight!
[05:11:01] <Gravis> cmn32480: only on weekdays
[05:11:04] <cmn32480> you ahve my word that i won't gravis :-)
[05:11:25] <Gravis> noted
[05:11:39] <cmn32480> ~gnight gravis
[05:11:40] * exec insatiably flings an assfull of glowballs at gravis
[05:11:54] * cmn32480 wonders wtf is a glowball?
[05:12:08] <Gravis> ~g glowball
[05:12:10] <exec> [google] www.petbarn.com.au/chuckit-max-glow-ball-dog-toy.html
[05:12:10] <exec> [google] www.petbarn.com.au/chuckit-max-glow-ball-dog-toy.html
[05:12:15] <Gravis> :)
[05:12:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GPS Ground System Software Bug Loses 13 Microseconds - http://sylnt.us - debugging-25-year-old-code
[05:15:14] <SirFinkus> I think I'll let that water discussion shit a little before I comment on it
[05:15:21] <SirFinkus> get some shit to respond to
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[05:20:47] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i'm just thinking... what if we combined and miniturized water reclamation, water filtration systems and rainwater harvesting into a single in-ground unit that could be installed by every home?
[05:21:04] <SirFinkus> depends on the region
[05:21:34] <SirFinkus> my gut says "no" in a lot of cases
[05:21:54] <Gravis> SirFinkus: "no" what?
[05:22:02] <Gravis> SirFinkus: not possible?
[05:22:18] <Gravis> SirFinkus: remember, money isn't a factor here.
[05:22:28] <SirFinkus> you'd need to supplement it with municipal water to be most efficient
[05:23:57] <SirFinkus> I think collection of non-potable water for flushing toilets and such would be a great idea
[05:24:34] <SirFinkus> the trouble is, most of the places that get lots of rain water don't really have problems with just drilling a well and getting abundant groundwater
[05:24:57] <Gravis> interesting
[05:25:33] <Gravis> SirFinkus: what about for areas that don't get lots of rainwater, massive underground tanks
[05:25:50] <Gravis> so when it does rain, you collect a HUGE amount
[05:26:50] <SirFinkus> we already kind of do that, and it isn't working very well
[05:27:11] <Gravis> aww... why not?
[05:27:30] <SirFinkus> https://en.wikipedia.org
[05:27:31] <shekel> ^ 03Wiki: Lake Mead ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[05:27:57] <SirFinkus> rainfall and snowmelt isn't enough to keep it full
[05:28:47] <SirFinkus> you did specify underground, but I'm not sure if that would solve the problem
[05:29:04] <Gravis> ok... so what if we capture clouds and hold them hostage until they rain and give us water. :P
[05:29:28] <SirFinkus> I suspect that evaporation isn't a huge factor in what's causing lake mead to be drained
[05:29:32] <SirFinkus> might work
[05:29:36] * SirFinkus fires up HAARP
[05:29:40] <Gravis> lol
[05:32:11] <Gravis> ok... so let's say, we have a public source of seawater running underground. could tap into that and have filtration systems everywhere?
[05:32:43] <Gravis> it would be a MASSIVE pipe
[05:32:55] <SirFinkus> desalinization is pretty energy intensive
[05:33:13] <Gravis> true... but solar power is free
[05:33:22] <SirFinkus> yeah, was about to bring that up
[05:33:30] <SirFinkus> don't know if it would be fast enough though
[05:33:49] <Gravis> SirFinkus: you would have tanks, just like water heaters
[05:34:08] <SirFinkus> if we're talking using thermal power
[05:34:13] <SirFinkus> via distilation
[05:34:38] <SirFinkus> I mean, if you solve the "free energy" thing, shittons of things are possible
[05:34:54] <Gravis> SirFinkus: well... photonic bombardment is a huge amount of power
[05:35:37] <SirFinkus> if only would could tap into the power of ROCK
[05:35:46] <Gravis> LOL
[05:36:43] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i think this is what you mean: http://smg.photobucket.com
[05:37:03] <Gravis> err http://img.photobucket.com
[05:39:55] <SirFinkus> seems about right
[05:40:01] <SirFinkus> he does have a lot of water
[05:40:18] <SirFinkus> shit, he hit a stone with a stick and a spring appeared
[05:40:40] <SirFinkus> or was it milk?
[05:40:47] <SirFinkus> been a while since I read exodus
[05:45:31] <Gravis> SirFinkus: it was water from a broken stone and the fact that he hit it with the staff is why he didn't make it to the promised land. #neverforget
[05:45:44] <Gravis> #toomuchknowledge
[05:46:23] <SirFinkus> yeah, terry davis made a game in temple os about it
[05:47:14] <Gravis> poor bro doesn't even realize he's cracked
[05:48:04] <SirFinkus> he does, it just hasn't been/can't be treated
[05:48:48] <Gravis> he does when he's taking his meds
[05:49:30] <SirFinkus> you seem like the kind of guy who'd know these things, what do you think of templeos on a technical level?
[05:50:05] <Gravis> i haven't really looked at it much
[05:50:28] <Gravis> i've seen and overview and it seems like it's DOS
[05:50:38] <Gravis> well... DOS with graphics... so win 3.1
[05:50:40] <SirFinkus> some parts of it seem neat to me, and other parts (inline graphics) I look and say "huh?"
[05:51:55] <SirFinkus> I've watched a few of the videos of him running it, it seems closer to what unix aspires to than dos
[05:51:57] <Gravis> i think he limits the OS to 10K lines, so that is actually pretty cool for only 10K lines.
[05:52:29] <SirFinkus> blurring the line between using the command line and programming
[05:53:45] <Gravis> hmm... it does appear to have multitasking
[05:54:34] <SirFinkus> I haven't used MSDOS super extensively, but it seemed to be mostly a way to manage files and launch programs to manipulate the files
[05:55:56] <SirFinkus> apparently templeos is based on some kind of jit compiled c variant
[05:56:28] <Gravis> oh well. i'm more interested in things written for generic use with standards rather than anomolies like templeOS
[05:56:38] <SirFinkus> fair nuff
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[05:57:05] <SirFinkus> it's interesting to me simply because of the shear madness of the project itself, and the person who wrote it
[05:57:26] <Gravis> agreed... but it's also sad.
[05:57:50] <SirFinkus> not as sad as a lot of stories with mental illness
[05:58:03] <SirFinkus> it seems to be a relatively constructive outlet for him
[05:58:09] <Gravis> true
[05:59:00] <Gravis> but medication is enough to manage a many forms of mental illness.
[05:59:21] <Gravis> can't save 'em all but that's the price we pay for evolution.
[06:00:03] <SirFinkus> my personal philosophy is that mental illness and creativity come from the same place, it's just a matter of the degree of mental illness
[06:01:08] <Gravis> eh... that doesn't quite line up with science but the truth is they are linked.
[06:01:40] <SirFinkus> maybe mental illness is too broad of a term
[06:02:35] <SirFinkus> there's a sweet spot with obsession where an individual can become highly productive and innovative
[06:02:52] <Gravis> eventually, someone with mental illness will have offspring that has the creativity but also the capability to manage it effortlessly. it will be the predecessor of humanity.
[06:03:00] <SirFinkus> it requires a number of factors to line up, but when they do, it leads to greatness
[06:04:00] <Gravis> it will be homosuperior
[06:05:51] <Gravis> though it really depends on how they manage to remove homo sapiens
[06:07:18] <Gravis> i would think their breeding opportunities would go through the roof, especially if they leverage science to the benefit
[06:07:25] <SirFinkus> it seems unlikely that our descendants will diverge into more than one group, given the level of interbreeding we have now
[06:07:25] <Gravis> their*
[06:07:54] <SirFinkus> completely isolated communities are small, and increasingly rare
[06:07:59] <Gravis> SirFinkus: yeah, i'm just thinking how the /first/ one would become the only
[06:08:21] <SirFinkus> and we all fuck each other
[06:08:35] <SirFinkus> any change in that direction would be gradual
[06:08:46] <Gravis> so a convergence
[06:09:05] <SirFinkus> we wouldn't even notice it happening
[06:09:38] <SirFinkus> well, we might through data collection
[06:09:50] <Gravis> assuming we don't end our biological existence
[06:09:50] <SirFinkus> but we wouldn't *notice* it if you catch my meaning
[06:10:10] <SirFinkus> or nuke ourselves down to a 10k population
[06:10:10] <Gravis> i know what you mean
[06:10:29] <Gravis> it's hard to tell you are standing on a round planet if you are so small
[06:11:41] <SirFinkus> I'm not even sure if getting us down to 10k would lead to divergence of the species
[06:11:46] <Gravis> SirFinkus: nuke seems unlikely... killing most everything on planet would do it though
[06:12:19] <SirFinkus> we're constantly trying to determine why humans are so uniquely successful among all the animals
[06:12:30] <SirFinkus> intelligence, language, etc
[06:12:39] <SirFinkus> I think the urge to explore is a huge part of it
[06:12:50] <Gravis> we're also constantly trying to improve upon what is human. <_<;
[06:13:18] <Gravis> so if we manage that whole brain upload deally... who the fuck knows
[06:13:26] <SirFinkus> I mean, the idea of going to the moon, that didn't make a whole lot of sense logically
[06:13:37] <SirFinkus> we had justifications
[06:13:49] <SirFinkus> but I think the main reason we went there is because it was *there*
[06:13:49] <Gravis> yeah, we beat those commie bastards! :P
[06:14:13] <Gravis> SirFinkus: humans are explorers
[06:14:41] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i mean, we are decendents of the monkeys who said, "fuck it, i'm leaving the tree!"
[06:15:12] <SirFinkus> so if we got down to 10k survivors, we'd probably find eachother in a few thousand years and start fucking each other and become a big mess all over again before natural selection had a chance to have our species diverge
[06:16:30] <Gravis> SirFinkus: well, there is shit that kills us that is still thinning the herd even today.
[06:17:17] <Gravis> SirFinkus: though if we manage a colony on another planet, that might do it. :P
[06:17:28] <SirFinkus> yeah, it could
[06:17:34] <Gravis> a self-sustained one that is
[06:18:22] <Gravis> actually... just the gravitational difference alone would be enough for divergence.
[06:18:27] <SirFinkus> depends on the amount of time that passes between offworld colonies being viable, and travel between offworld colonies being viable
[06:18:58] <SirFinkus> if it's as easy to go to mars as it is to fly to europe from the US, no dice
[06:19:15] <Gravis> touche
[06:19:44] <Gravis> planets are slightly further away but i get your point. :P
[06:19:55] <SirFinkus> only slightly
[06:20:03] <Gravis> :>
[06:20:20] <SirFinkus> we got that pesky "speed of light" thing to work out too
[06:20:33] <SirFinkus> so afaik, might not even be possible
[06:20:48] <Gravis> it's not pesky at all. you just get close to C and it's all good.
[06:21:33] <SirFinkus> for all we know, we could eventually reach a peak for what our brains can handle and our senses can perceive and "finish" science
[06:21:37] <Gravis> you lose all contact with the world you knew but it's great for interstellar conlonization
[06:21:38] <SirFinkus> long way off, but it is possible
[06:22:14] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i don't buy that, i think we would go post-biological long before that
[06:22:40] <SirFinkus> I tend to agree, but I acknowledge the possibility
[06:22:43] <Gravis> SirFinkus: and when that happens, there aren't any real restrictions on the power of the mind
[06:22:57] <SirFinkus> assuming we'll figure it all out seems like magical thinking
[06:23:21] <Gravis> oh no... we'll go extinct long before that
[06:24:13] <SirFinkus> it's the same argument as that against investing in renewable energy, the "we've always figured it out in the past before it became a big problem" attitude
[06:24:22] <SirFinkus> well, yeah, if we hadn't, we wouldn't be here
[06:26:31] <Gravis> i wish they stopped using "renewable energy" and instead used "eletromagnetic energy"
[06:26:54] <Gravis> instead of "fossil fuels" they used "chemical energy"
[06:27:40] <Gravis> because that is the very real difference between the two: one is a chemical reaction and the other is electromagnetic capture
[06:28:10] <Gravis> eh... reaction works in place of capture too
[06:28:42] <Gravis> chemical energy sources are non-renewable
[06:29:09] <Gravis> electromagnetic energy sources are power by stars
[06:29:22] <SirFinkus> well, everything is technically non-renewable, it's simply a matter of how long before it becomes an issue
[06:29:58] <Gravis> agreed but we can get a new star when we really need it.
[06:30:22] <Gravis> humans will cease to exist by the time our star runs out
[06:30:23] <SirFinkus> even that, just postponing the inevitably
[06:30:30] <SirFinkus> probably
[06:30:49] <Gravis> SirFinkus: no, i mean, evolution stops for nobody.
[06:31:04] <Gravis> SirFinkus: in a mere million years, humans will be no more
[06:31:33] <SirFinkus> I'm more cynical, I think we'll kill ourselves off before then
[06:32:00] <Gravis> yeah, i'm a 24-bit optimist. :)
[06:32:22] <SirFinkus> we haven't faced a planet killing asteroid yet, once we survive that, we'll talk
[06:32:48] <Gravis> SirFinkus: we'll survive that... because we wont be on that planet. :P
[06:33:07] <chromas> Because we'll have killed ourselves off first
[06:33:08] <SirFinkus> there's that optimism again
[06:33:32] <Gravis> SirFinkus: hey, it'll only take out 99% of humans. we still got some on mars!
[06:34:04] <SirFinkus> but basically, as far as we can perceive, they're random events
[06:34:18] <SirFinkus> if we found a planet killer today, what could we possibly do?
[06:34:24] <Gravis> SirFinkus: less random and more probablistic
[06:34:40] <SirFinkus> I meant as far as our perception goes Gravis
[06:34:50] <Gravis> oic
[06:35:30] <Gravis> SirFinkus: it depends on how much time we have before it will hit us
[06:35:43] <Gravis> SirFinkus: if we have 75 years, we could do a shitload of things
[06:35:57] <SirFinkus> I guess I meant that we have no idea whether a planet killer is going to hit us tomorrow, and we've seen so little of the sky that we couldn't possibly begin to say that it won't happen
[06:36:43] <Gravis> SirFinkus: sure i can, it's what makes me a 24-bit optimist! :P
[06:37:09] <SirFinkus> the likely scenarios I've seen are that we'll have quite a long time to prepare (I think 75 years was in the ballpark) or we'd have no idea what hit us
[06:37:37] <SirFinkus> based on some astrophysicist I heard a while back, couldn't possibly remember the source
[06:38:00] <SirFinkus> probably phil plait or something
[06:38:11] <Gravis> SirFinkus: yeah, the 75 years deal was a dwarf star, right?
[06:38:32] <SirFinkus> maybe, it's been a while since I heard it
[06:38:59] <Gravis> it's fine... it doesn't matter until we can actually do something about it.
[06:39:10] <SirFinkus> I suppose the specific object probably doesn't matter that much, since it's all governed by the same laws
[06:40:01] <Gravis> SirFinkus: well... a choice between the two, i'll take an astroid strike over a black hole any day. :P
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[06:40:22] <SirFinkus> a black hole might kill you quicker
[06:40:40] <SirFinkus> could be condemned to a slow death of starvation with the asteroid
[06:40:44] <chromas> Or we'll find out they're portals
[06:41:15] <SirFinkus> and end up in a part of space with no sun and starve to death :P
[06:41:23] <Gravis> flamebait? https://soylentnews.org
[06:41:23] <SirFinkus> I'm the 24bit pessimist
[06:41:24] <shekel> ^ 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:3, Insightful)
[06:41:38] <chromas> Entry points to virtual machines running new universes
[06:42:02] <SirFinkus> just some asshole with mod points gravis, shit's gonna happen
[06:42:04] <Gravis> SirFinkus: you would freeze waaay faster
[06:42:15] <chromas> Everything is flamebait for someone
[06:42:22] <Gravis> SirFinkus: shit happens?!
[06:42:28] * Gravis hyperventalates
[06:42:31] <SirFinkus> near vacuum is a very good insulator
[06:42:38] <Gravis> hyperventilates*
[06:43:19] <Gravis> chromas: so you admit it! :P
[06:43:41] <SirFinkus> just assume someone accidentally hit the wrong item in the drop down
[06:43:49] <chromas> I'tweren't I. Just eating leftover pizza and making shitty quips here
[06:44:07] <SirFinkus> drop down menus are awful, idk how to make them better though
[06:44:23] <chromas> add javascript
[06:44:39] <Gravis> lol
[06:44:40] <chromas> when you click the button, you get animated colorful tiles instead of a list
[06:44:49] <chromas> plus live weather and your email and stuff
[06:44:52] <Gravis> chromas: you're just awful. :P
[06:44:59] <chromas> Microsoft Soylent
[06:45:02] <chromas> 10
[06:45:19] <SirFinkus> oh, those fuckers, who break alphabetical conventions in drop down
[06:45:32] <SirFinkus> so you can't type to scroll the one of 40k options you want
[06:45:40] <Gravis> SirFinkus: if you could change what the mod was after you made it, it would be better.
[06:45:53] <chromas> As long as they put USA at the top of the country list, it's all gonna be okay ;)
[06:46:06] <SirFinkus> you'd have to limit the window where you could do that gravis
[06:46:12] <SirFinkus> but sounds like a good idea
[06:46:21] <chromas> Or look at the combobox before you click the button
[06:46:23] <SirFinkus> give it a 5 minute time limit and it'd be fine
[06:46:25] <Gravis> SirFinkus: maybe a few minutes
[06:46:29] <Gravis> yeah, 5 minutes
[06:46:56] <Gravis> something similar like 60 seconds so you can edit a post
[06:47:01] <SirFinkus> ping TMB or somebody about it, sounds like it'd be a reasonable feature
[06:48:06] <Gravis> well as long as we are adding features i had a great idea for a feature. now, this may sound a little weird but it's an animated paper clip. :P
[06:48:25] * SirFinkus is curious if the anachronistic "print" icon will be removed ever
[06:48:31] <chromas> How is that weird? Sounds like a novel idea
[06:48:37] <SirFinkus> on EVERY STORY
[06:48:45] <chromas> Yeah; nobody prints anymore
[06:49:08] <SirFinkus> https://soylentnews.org
[06:49:09] <shekel> ^ 03Main Page
[06:49:13] <SirFinkus> WHY DO I WANT THIS
[06:49:14] <Gravis> oh, i think i hid that page element
[06:49:32] <SirFinkus> I just find it funny
[06:49:39] <chromas> I don't seem to have such an icon
[06:49:56] <chromas> oh, found it. soo tiny
[06:50:07] <SirFinkus> now you'll see it every time
[06:50:11] <Gravis> yeah, i hide a ton of stuff on every page
[06:50:12] <SirFinkus> and it'll drive you nuts
[06:50:17] <SirFinkus> you're welcome
[06:50:33] <chromas> Yeah; where're the comments in the print version? Since the comments are the whole point of the site
[06:50:37] <SirFinkus> I'd hide it, but I want to know when it's removed
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[06:51:46] <Gravis> frankly, i find the site bloated because i visit everything coming directly from RSS feed
[06:52:01] <chromas> Well now I'm sure TMB will keep it there just to keep your jimmies in perpetual rustlement
[06:52:18] <SirFinkus> TheMightyBuzzard is an asshole
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[06:52:30] <SirFinkus> and a gun totin' injun
[06:52:43] <chromas> You'll have to wait four hours for a rebuttal
[06:52:55] <SirFinkus> fuck that, I'm not long for this world
[06:53:03] <SirFinkus> getting pretty tired
[06:53:14] <Gravis> SirFinkus: oh, starting the mars colony so early, eh? :P
[06:53:22] <chromas> Can I have your guitar then?
[06:53:39] <chromas> I can't play, but I hear it gives the girls a ladyboner
[06:53:41] <SirFinkus> fuck it, why not?
[06:53:46] <SirFinkus> it's not a good guitar
[06:56:10] <SirFinkus> oh, being able to play helps
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[06:56:19] <SirFinkus> don't have to be good
[06:56:50] <SirFinkus> I parlayed "guitar lessons" into a date last week
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[06:57:07] * chromas dons a fedora and facial stubble and heads to the nearest college
[06:57:10] <SirFinkus> all because I showed a girl how to play harmonics
[06:57:39] <chromas> and then you played harmonics on her taco
[06:57:46] <chromas> "Look how many notes I can hit at once"
[06:57:52] <SirFinkus> hey! it's called a tribley, and I just shaved!
[06:58:19] <chromas> trilby
[06:58:26] <SirFinkus> whatever
[06:58:26] <chromas> [hat nazi incoming]
[06:58:38] * SirFinkus still doesn't have stubble
[06:58:45] <chromas> I only know 'cause I looked it up for picture
[07:00:10] <SirFinkus> I haven't gone on the date yet, but it'll go well, already had a "potters wheel" moment with the "guitar lesson"
[07:01:39] <chromas> did Patric Swayze's ghost come along?
[07:01:46] <crutchy> so you're gunna be strumming her like a geetar?
[07:02:07] <chromas> He will play her tinwhistle
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[07:02:25] <chromas> you know it's bad when the NSA walks out
[07:02:39] <SirFinkus> I'M GONNA TOUCH HER BOOBIES
[07:02:58] <SirFinkus> AND MAYBE EVEN HER BUTT
[07:03:50] <crutchy> oooooh butt
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[07:04:12] <crutchy> does she have a decent butt or do you have to go looking with a magnifying glass?
[07:04:24] <SirFinkus> meh
[07:04:52] <Gravis> SirFinkus: but will she want you to touch them?
[07:05:08] <SirFinkus> pretty sure she will Gravis
[07:05:15] <SirFinkus> but we'll see
[07:05:58] <SirFinkus> she'll probably blow me in the car
[07:05:59] <Gravis> SirFinkus: foolproof plan: write "place boobie here" on the palms of your hands. :P
[07:06:05] <SirFinkus> I'm a 24bit optimist!
[07:06:11] <crutchy> lol
[07:06:28] <crutchy> how much extra do you have to pay for that?
[07:07:06] <SirFinkus> only the pleasure of my company crutchy
[07:07:14] <SirFinkus> I'm a charming motherfucker, in case you haven't noticed
[07:07:52] <crutchy> do you have a SJW mode? some chicks are all into that shit
[07:08:36] <SirFinkus> I could if I wanted to
[07:09:14] <SirFinkus> but I'm not that dishonest
[07:09:20] <crutchy> just tell her your cock is the fountain of youth :p
[07:09:38] <SirFinkus> only a little dishonest with my initial "I'll help you with guitar" bit
[07:09:45] <SirFinkus> but that's just ulterior motives
[07:10:02] <SirFinkus> and I suspect she took my invitation with full knowledge of those motives
[07:10:27] <SirFinkus> and it's irrelevant now since I've swapped it to a romantic context
[07:10:45] <crutchy> just be sure to look behind her, in case she's dragging a chain of baggage
[07:11:04] <SirFinkus> probably a great deal more, once I'm through with her
[07:11:28] <crutchy> hah. thats sounds like tmb
[07:11:54] <SirFinkus> I assure you I am not dating TheMightyBuzzard
[07:12:55] * crutchy tries to undo that thought
[07:14:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mach 24 "Antipode" Concept Aircraft Promises London to New York Travel in 11 Minutes - http://sylnt.us - would-TSA-screening-still-take-an-hour?
[07:18:40] <SirFinkus> actually, come to think of it, I've never seen TheMightyBuzzard and this girl in the same room at the same time
[07:18:46] * SirFinkus gets paranoid
[07:18:54] <SirFinkus> you never know
[07:19:09] <SirFinkus> it could even be crutchy
[07:19:41] <SirFinkus> and he knows that I'm only going on a date with her so I can try to touch her boobs
[07:19:52] <SirFinkus> my plot has been foiled
[07:39:46] <chromas> Ask her about her whiskers
[07:39:50] <chromas> That should help you along
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[08:01:48] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[08:01:49] <shekel> ^ 03Rolls Royce RB211 Back Yard 747 Jet Engine Run Close Up and Personal - YouTube
[08:01:55] <SirFinkus> I bet this guy's neighbors love him
[08:45:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Engineers Mark Completion of Orion's Pressure Vessel - http://sylnt.us - to-infinity-and-beyond
[09:06:15] <Thouren> Anyone in here use a Chromebook with Linux as a dev machine? Looking at getting a HP Chromebook 11 because it can be charged directly off DC power
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[09:10:02] <dyingtolive> now for your 3am russian dash cam video: https://www.youtube.com
[09:10:02] <shekel> ^ 03RUSSIAN DRIVING CAMERAS Quite possibly THE BEST VIDEO OF 2012!! - YouTube
[09:11:29] <Thouren> dyingtolive, you made my night
[09:11:32] <Thouren> Fucking helicopter
[09:12:26] <dyingtolive> the car with hay (or whatever that was) strapped to the top was really my favorite i think.
[09:13:04] <dyingtolive> though the guy with the gas pump line coming out of his car still deserves honorable mention
[09:13:08] <Thouren> Honestly I loved the first one, how the dubstep he was playing at the beat drop at the perfectly moment
[09:13:56] <dyingtolive> oh yeah. that was classic.
[09:14:11] <Thouren> I keep buying phone chargers and usb power banks to get my amazon orders over $35 to get free shipping, what is wrong with me
[09:14:56] <dyingtolive> the power banks make amazing batteries for arduino/pi projects. charging ciruit and overload protection (in theory) already built in.
[09:15:18] <Thouren> Yeah I always buy ones with the IC (Intelligent Circuit) labels on them
[09:15:43] <dyingtolive> i was working out the requirements for a man portable tesla coil (don't ask) that could be powered off of those a year or so ago.
[09:15:50] <Thouren> I haven't had any reason to buy a pi yet, have a home server so I just fire up a VM when I want to mess with something
[09:16:07] <Thouren> dyingtolive, I will ask, why make that? Sounds either really cool, really dangerous, or both
[09:17:17] <dyingtolive> really the biggest sell on the pi (over a 'regular' computer for me anyway) is the gpio pins. if you don't want to interface with meatspace, meh.
[09:17:18] <Thouren> dyingtolive, some cool ideas here if you're into bikes https://www.reddit.com
[09:17:18] <shekel> ^ 03Too Many Requests
[09:18:14] <dyingtolive> heh. the tesla coil idea stemmed from a wizard staff i wanted to make for gencon that arced lightning across it. i eventually gave up due to safety concerns (and they're stupid loud)
[09:18:23] <Thouren> Hey, still sounds cool
[09:18:57] <crutchy> any pilots here? check out this landing strip: https://youtu.be
[09:18:58] <shekel> ^ 03Worst Place To Be A Pilot - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[09:19:03] <crutchy> fucking insane
[09:19:35] <dyingtolive> i'm sure it would have been. just didn't feel comfortable with the idea of walking around areas so thick with people wearing flammable materials with lightning shooting out of a big piece of wood.
[09:19:37] <Thouren> I have serious respect for bush pilots, those guys are insane
[09:19:53] <Thouren> dyingtolive, sounds like a solid plan to me
[09:20:38] <dyingtolive> not to mention that my "ground plane" was going to be a piece of copper attached to the bottome of my shoe.
[09:20:58] <Thouren> Woah that pilot is nuts
[09:21:01] <Thouren> Mad respect
[09:21:33] <crutchy> needs the uphill just to slow down lol
[09:22:14] <dyingtolive> okay, my video, 12:03. wtf just happened there?
[09:23:09] <crutchy> 24:12 is the omfgwtfbbq moment
[09:23:40] <Thouren> These STOL guys are nuts too https://www.youtube.com
[09:23:41] <shekel> ^ 03Alaska Bush Pilots Short Takeoff And Landing Competition - YouTube
[09:24:40] <dyingtolive> crutchy: your video is making me wish MS would release a new flightsim. damnit.
[09:25:07] <crutchy> http://snag.gy
[09:25:11] <Thouren> dyingtolive, check out P3D
[09:25:53] <dyingtolive> also, that guys expression at about 24:58, just after the topless natives.
[09:25:56] <Thouren> dyingtolive, and http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com
[09:25:58] <shekel> ^ 03Digital Combat Simulator
[09:27:18] <dyingtolive> P3D looks cool. those licensing costs though.
[09:27:55] <Thouren> Uh, check out the Academic edition
[09:28:15] <Thouren> There are a bunch of FSX addons that are compatible too
[09:28:39] <dyingtolive> i could shell out 60 for it, long as you don't have to "prove" you are a student. do you know how gimped it is compared to the other versions?
[09:28:44] <Thouren> FSX is a pain because even modern high end systems can't max it out with good fps, just because of the engine limitations
[09:29:03] <Thouren> dyingtolive, I don't think there's any gimping. I use academic and it's amazingly full featured
[09:29:33] <dyingtolive> fair enough. i'll have to put that on the "nice to have list" and see if i can find a decent usb joystick.
[09:29:57] <Thouren> http://www.amazon.com
[09:29:59] <shekel> ^ 03Amazon.com: Extreme 3D Pro Joystick for Windows: Artist Not Provided: Electronics
[09:30:04] <dyingtolive> still have my MS sidewinder, but if i'm going to have to buy a card with a joystick port, i might as well get a new stick altogether.
[09:30:07] <Thouren> Solid choice if you want a good quality basic stick
[09:30:34] <dyingtolive> i like logitech. i could go with that.
[09:30:47] <Thouren> If you want something fairly high end with tons of features, look for a used Saitek x52 on ebay, I snagged one for $90. For DCS you really need a full HOTAS
[09:30:48] <dyingtolive> not feeling like it's going to break in my hands in more important than features anyway
[09:31:07] <Thouren> I've used the extreme 3d pro, solid but basic stick
[09:31:39] <Thouren> Don't get me started on flight sims or motorcycles, I'll never shut up
[09:32:27] <Gravis> "<dyingtolive> still have my MS sidewinder..." <-- that makes two of us! :P
[09:32:35] <dyingtolive> heh. i was never a huge flightsim nerd, but every once in a while, there was just something awesome about setting up a flight from chicago to NY in FSX and just chilling for a few hours.
[09:32:49] * crutchy had one of those. not sure if i still got it though. probably not
[09:33:04] <dyingtolive> and then at the end right before i land? HAMMERHEAD IN A 747!
[09:33:05] <crutchy> fukkers dropped support after windows 98 :|
[09:33:10] <Thouren> dyingtolive, check out FSX: Steam Edition. Well worth buying when on sale simply for the steam multiplayer
[09:33:25] <Thouren> Ever want a copilot for a flight you give me a shout
[09:33:37] <dyingtolive> ooh.. yeah, i don't play with randos, but if it's on steam, i could probably get a couple people to join me. i'll keep that in mind. :)
[09:34:30] <Thouren> The steam multiplayer support just makes it really easy, previously used have to use a vpn or whatnot for multiplayer
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[09:35:42] <dyingtolive> yeah, i remember that in the old days. friend of mine in high school and i figured out how to run one of them (pre FSX i think) over a direct dial connection. those were the days.
[09:36:44] <dyingtolive> i like the video on their store page with the dude in the coffee shop. okay, springing for this.
[09:36:59] <Thouren> Kids these days don't have any appreciation for how hard setting up games was back in the day
[09:37:04] <Thouren> and I'm only 22
[09:37:15] <Gravis> /facepalm
[09:37:28] <Thouren> haha
[09:37:37] <Thouren> I did use dialup my whole childhood :(
[09:37:39] * chromas sets Gravis' irq
[09:37:40] <crutchy> how hard?
[09:37:59] <Thouren> crutchy, much harder than minecraft
[09:38:01] <dyingtolive> we also had the 8 hour dial up marathon of starcraft starting at about midnight. man, my dad was pissed about that.
[09:38:06] <Thouren> Sometimes we even gave up and went to play outside
[09:38:13] <crutchy> all it took was LOAD "*",8,1
[09:38:15] <dyingtolive> perish the thought!
[09:38:21] <Gravis> chromas: sorry, masked.
[09:38:31] * crutchy had to look that up. all i could remember was the ,8,1 bit :p
[09:38:43] * chromas glues Gravis' jumpers onto the wrong pins
[09:38:59] <dyingtolive> okay, THAT'S not cool.
[09:39:12] * chromas toggles crutchy's dip switch
[09:39:23] <chromas> it's ,9,1 now! HAHAHAHA
[09:39:30] <crutchy> lol
[09:39:38] * crutchy grabs hold of chromas' joystick
[09:39:49] <dyingtolive> gluing someone's jumpers is almost as bad as sneaking into someone's house at stripping all their screws.
[09:39:59] <chromas> they went up to 11. that's how we know c64s were better than the others
[09:40:18] <crutchy> it was amiga after c64
[09:40:22] <crutchy> for me anyway
[09:40:44] <chromas> that sounds like something I'd do. Sneak in, carefully unscrew all the screws, strip the threads, then meticulously set them all back into place
[09:41:23] <crutchy> till your dog come in and farted and woke the whole neighborhood up
[09:41:40] <crutchy> dogfart--
[09:41:40] <Bender> karma - dogfart: -3
[09:42:02] <chromas> dogfart--
[09:42:02] <Bender> karma - dogfart: -4
[09:42:18] <chromas> fortunately none recently. /me installs some fiber into the dog
[09:42:27] <dyingtolive> holy crap. FSX "add all dlc to cart". view cart. $1341.27
[09:42:48] <Thouren> dyingtolive, don't buy FSX dlc off steam
[09:42:57] <chromas> Just think of all the jihads you could instigate with that though
[09:43:52] <dyingtolive> man, i don't need $20 dollar helicopters to fly 747s into buildings. my own ineptitude will cover that just fine.
[09:44:14] <chromas> is there a building-collapse-physics add-on?
[09:44:48] * chromas rates it 9/11, would buy again
[09:45:12] <dyingtolive> doubt it. i kind of remember that you had to "start over" if you crashed. that'd be neat though. maybe an addon that keeps track of how many people your goofy stunts have killed during a flight too.
[09:45:24] <chromas> stats++
[09:45:24] <Bender> karma - stats: 1
[09:45:31] <Thouren> You're all wonderfully horrible
[09:45:35] <chromas> need to be able to buzz people in the city too
[09:45:48] <chromas> invert your helicopter and mow the lawn
[09:46:05] <crutchy> damn crappy weather :(
[09:46:08] <crutchy> ~weather
[09:46:09] <exec> 02Traralgon VIC - currently 21°C, mostly cloudy, wind E at 10 km/h, humidity 78% - Saturday heavy rain (15°C:26°C), Sunday thunderstorm (12°C:25°C), Monday mostly sunny (14°C:27°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (16°C:29°C)
[09:46:11] <dyingtolive> a counter for all the farms you've low flying buzzed in a supersonic for how many chickens you've exploded from the shockwave.
[09:46:34] <dyingtolive> wow. it's supposed to be clear and in the 50s-60s here. :)
[09:46:38] <dyingtolive> ~weather
[09:46:39] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[09:46:44] <dyingtolive> ~weatheradd
[09:46:47] <dyingtolive> ~weather-add
[09:46:49] <exec> syntax: ~weather-add name location (name cannot contain spaces but location can contain spaces)
[09:46:49] <dyingtolive> damnit
[09:47:04] <dyingtolive> ~weather-add dyingtolive St. Louis, MO
[09:47:05] <exec> name "dyingtolive" set for location "St. Louis, MO"
[09:47:08] <dyingtolive> ~weather-add
[09:47:09] <exec> syntax: ~weather-add name location (name cannot contain spaces but location can contain spaces)
[09:47:10] <dyingtolive> ~weatheradd
[09:47:13] <dyingtolive> ~weather
[09:47:15] <exec> 10St Louis, MO, USA - currently 41°F / 5°C, clear, wind SE at 7 mph, humidity 70% - Saturday mostly sunny (46°F:63°F / 8°C:17°C), Sunday cloudy (36°F:60°F / 2°C:16°C), Monday partly cloudy (39°F:51°F / 4°C:11°C), Tuesday thunderstorm (31°F:62°F / -1°C:17°C)
[09:47:19] <shekel> ~weather space
[09:47:21] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[09:47:22] <dyingtolive> and then i revealed i was drunk
[09:47:31] <crutchy> ~weather south pole
[09:47:33] <exec> south pole temp: -33 °F
[09:48:06] <dyingtolive> huh. i guess they revised. i was looking forward to a nice long walk in shorts. oh well.
[09:48:17] <chromas> Just wear two pair
[09:48:35] <dyingtolive> one at my waist. one at my knees. i'd probably fit in.
[09:48:37] <crutchy> pissing rain here
[09:48:46] <chromas> It will uh, raise your insulation amperage
[09:48:52] <chromas> instead of the voltage
[09:49:12] <dyingtolive> seems legit...
[09:49:29] <crutchy> for all the technical merit of the apollo 13 movie, i was disappointed when they said "amperage"
[09:49:39] <dyingtolive> wouldn't i need to soak myself in salt water though to keep my electrolytes up?
[09:49:41] <chromas> don't worry; almost done, crutchy. I drank a lot today
[09:50:10] * chromas pours dyingtolive to a flute of Brawndo
[09:50:18] <dyingtolive> i don't remember that part. i saw that shortly after it came out, but i think i was probably a little too young to notice the mistake.
[09:50:23] <Gravis> ~weather hell
[09:50:24] <exec> 10Washington, DC, USA - currently 25°F / -4°C, partly cloudy, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 66% - Saturday mostly sunny (34°F:43°F / 1°C:6°C), Sunday partly cloudy (46°F:54°F / 8°C:12°C), Monday scattered showers (37°F:62°F / 3°C:17°C), Tuesday mostly sunny (42°F:52°F / 6°C:11°C)
[09:50:30] <dyingtolive> pfft.
[09:50:37] <crutchy> stupid international date line... i'm getting chromas' yesterday's piss today :|
[09:50:38] <chromas> I don't remember the movie either
[09:50:57] <Gravis> ~weather
[09:50:58] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[09:51:02] <dyingtolive> Gravis: you owe me a beer and a keyboard.
[09:51:05] <chromas> haha! urine the future, crutchy!
[09:51:31] * crutchy is wondering if chromas is really a dad
[09:51:47] <crutchy> !grab chromas
[09:51:47] <Bender> Added quote 660
[09:51:51] <Gravis> dyingtolive: sure... i'll just get some out of the trash. ;P
[09:52:02] <dyingtolive> the beer or the keyboard?
[09:52:09] <Gravis> yes. ;)
[09:52:20] <chromas> Gravis: none of that diet bud or whatever
[09:52:32] <dyingtolive> i'm at the point where i'd drink that beer, but fuck a junked keyboard. that's just gross.
[09:52:40] <chromas> hm, probably wouldn't even find it in the trash
[09:52:42] * crutchy wonders if anyone else has a dry enough sense of humor to get chromas' urine gag
[09:52:43] <Gravis> chromas: you're not the boss of me!
[09:53:06] <chromas> dyingtolive: don't worry; it just had some beer spilled on it
[09:53:20] * chromas might be giant
[09:53:26] <crutchy> now it will type your rants for you :p
[09:53:29] <Gravis> dyingtolive: why do i owe you a beer and keyboard?
[09:53:47] <chromas> because you made a funny and didn't post a link to it
[09:53:58] <dyingtolive> because you checked the weather in hell, and it came back with DC, and then the beer in my mouth wound up all in my keyboard.
[09:54:06] <Gravis> oh :)
[09:54:20] <chromas> Good thing you're not on a laptop
[09:54:23] <Gravis> dyingtolive: yeah, it's a nice shortcut that's near me
[09:54:35] * crutchy used to love heavy rain. then he bought a house and is always nervous about it being struck by lightning (again) or springing a leak (thankfully not yet... touch wood)
[09:54:55] <chromas> uh, dude. this is a family-friendly channel
[09:55:02] * chromas covers crutchy's wood
[09:55:21] <Gravis> chromas: you do know how families are made, right? <_<;
[09:56:09] <chromas> Affirmative consent
[09:56:28] <dyingtolive> drunken new year's parties?
[09:57:05] <chromas> Like all good christians, I know that you shouldn't be touching things. You just bump lightly in the dark until you make it in, then pray quietly in the corner
[09:57:32] <chromas> s/mp //mp and fumble/
[09:57:37] <chromas> from the derp dept
[09:57:43] <Gravis> (゚ω゚;)
[09:57:44] <Thouren> I used to date this catholic chick, could literally hear her thumbing her rosary beads every night after she thought I was asleep
[09:57:55] <Thouren> Because we were "living in sin"
[09:58:01] <dyingtolive> oh man. wow.
[09:58:11] <chromas> catholic chicks are masters of thumbing their rosaries
[09:58:17] <Thouren> lmfao
[09:58:29] <Thouren> Now I'm seeing a kindergarten teacher, no such inhibitions
[09:58:52] <dyingtolive> i sometimes get drunk and start asking my parents what the fuck the cause of my conception was. i'm like, "it was probably the middle of fucking may. what happened in may that made you think i was a good idea?"
[09:59:00] <chromas> Your'e not…you're not one of her students are you
[09:59:11] <Thouren> chromas, you dirty man
[09:59:16] <Gravis> Thouren: well... does she see you too our is this one of those one way mirror deals. (゚ω゚;)
[09:59:26] <Gravis> -our+or
[09:59:49] <Thouren> Usually I keep her blindfolded in the closet, our relationship is getting pretty serious, you know?
[09:59:52] <chromas> shoe mirrors
[10:00:42] <chromas> closet? pffft, amateur! I have a whole underground catacombs thing going on that I
[10:00:50] <chromas> oh oops—nothing! nothing at all
[10:01:08] <Gravis> (눈‸눈)
[10:01:24] <chromas> I'm not familiar with the type of thing I'm seeing
[10:02:15] <chromas> crutchy: oh and to answer your earlier comment, no, these kids aren't mine. but don't tell anyone
[10:02:19] <Gravis> chromas: put your pants back on
[10:03:25] * chromas puts his pants on backward
[10:03:39] <chromas> Cool, now I can start an '80s hiphop duo!
[10:04:03] <Gravis> (눈‸눈)
[10:04:09] <chromas> s💩8💩9💩
[10:04:09] <sedctl> <chromas> Cool, now I can start an '90s hiphop duo!
[10:04:41] <dyingtolive> chromas: did you steal them?
[10:04:53] <chromas> the pants? or the children?
[10:05:04] <Gravis> (」゚ロ゚)」NOOOooooo━
[10:05:11] <dyingtolive> uh... let's start with the children.
[10:07:32] <chromas> well, let's just say I keep a very large bag of candy and a butterfly net in my chevy express
[10:08:03] * chromas hides his mustache and denim jacket
[10:08:17] <Gravis> ヽ(゚Д゚)ノ
[10:08:22] <dyingtolive> lol
[10:08:26] <dyingtolive> okay, what about the pants?
[10:09:14] <chromas> well obviously I burn those afterward to hide the evidence
[10:10:21] <chromas> pants-- #for spalls
[10:10:21] <Bender> karma - pants: -4
[10:10:45] <dyingtolive> smoke pants erreday
[10:11:08] <chromas> now, pantaloons–totally different perspective
[10:11:23] * chromas loads his musket
[10:12:07] <dyingtolive> oh sure, nautrally. it's gauche to burn pantaloons in this day and age. has been for quite a while.
[10:12:16] * Gravis adorns his tricorner hat
[10:12:35] <exec> pretty sure chromas is just a chatterbot. these things don't even make sense.
[10:14:26] <Gravis> for once exec is right about something
[10:14:56] <exec> #smake chromas
[10:14:56] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a regex
[10:16:16] <dyingtolive> i dunno. if so, he's not a very trollish bot. the deal earlier today with mechanicjay was pretty awesome. i gotta applaud q on that one.
[10:16:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - World Health Organization to Convene Emergency Meeting for Zika Virus - http://sylnt.us
[10:25:42] * chromas read the log; is amused
[10:57:34] <Thouren> Damn this is a nice watch for the price: http://www.amazon.com
[10:57:35] <shekel> ^ 03Amazon.com: Timex Men's T499059J Expedition Field Chronograph Watch: Timex: Watches
[10:57:48] <Thouren> Doing that thing where I drink all night and order stuff off amazon
[10:59:04] <dyingtolive> sounds dangerous.
[11:05:08] <chromas> drink-driving the Information Superhighway
[11:06:34] * chromas dials the Internet Police
[11:06:41] <chromas> consequences will never be the same
[11:09:17] <Thouren> Can I get a DUI on the information superhyway?
[11:10:15] <chromas> They'll suspend your browser session
[11:24:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:24:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2144
[11:25:34] * crutchy is chillin to https://www.youtube.com
[11:25:35] <shekel> ^ 03Bomfunk MC's - Freestyler (Official Video) - YouTube
[11:25:43] <crutchy> still cool in 2016
[11:30:18] <Thouren> chromas, as long as I don't get locked in the BSD jail
[11:34:05] <chromas> linux container, sir
[11:34:27] <chromas> systemd-jaild
[11:34:37] <crutchy> jails are old school. now we have super maxes full of blackd's
[11:42:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~moo
[11:42:16] <exec> (__)
[11:42:16] <exec> (oo)
[11:42:16] <exec> /------\/
[11:42:16] <exec> / | ||
[11:42:16] <exec> * /\---/\
[11:42:17] <exec> ~~ ~~
[11:42:18] <exec> ..."Have you mooed today?"...
[11:43:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> mkay, going to have gooood weather today for February so ima work on my boat some. gotta paint the hull numbers on it and get the fish/depth finder mounted.
[11:44:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[11:44:02] <MrPlow> Today: Sunny to partly cloudy. High 66F. Winds SSW at 10 to 20 mph. Tomorrow: Cloudy skies. Windy during the morning. Slight chance of a rain shower. High 67F. Winds SSW at 20 to 30 mph.
[11:44:15] <chromas> Did you name it the coffee++ ?
[11:44:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't named it yet
[11:45:07] <chromas> fooshing++
[11:45:07] <Bender> karma - fooshing: 1
[11:45:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya generally don't name jon boats but i think i'll make an exception
[11:45:17] <chromas> or your 'favorite' regex
[11:45:40] <crutchy> name it (o Y o)
[11:45:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> boat's cammo painted so i'm putting the hull numbers on in blaze orange.
[11:46:02] <chromas> see if you can get a vanity id: 8008135
[11:46:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy++
[11:46:07] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 190
[11:47:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Tech Giving People Power to Rise Above Disability - http://sylnt.us - powah-to-the-people
[11:48:14] * crutchy returns to https://www.youtube.com
[11:48:15] <shekel> ^ 03De La Soul - Plug Tunin - YouTube
[11:49:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://youtu.be
[11:49:57] <shekel> ^ 03The White Stripes - 'Seven Nation Army' - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[11:53:18] <nick> weekend
[11:53:21] <nick> ?
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[11:58:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, looks like it is, yep
[11:58:31] <nick> i'm guessing the coffee drinkers of the house wont appreciate it if i use the last of the milk in my porridge
[11:59:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> real coffee drinkers can limp by on black coffee long enough for someone who's awake to run to the store.
[11:59:49] <nick> yeah that's not going to happen here
[11:59:59] <nick> coffee in this house is half milk every time apparently
[12:00:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[12:00:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> in that case just throw extra butter in the porridge
[12:00:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> half a stick should do
[12:02:01] <nick> not so sure about that, i could probably get to the store and back in 5 minutes if it's not busy
[12:02:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait a tick, it's noon there and you lot are just getting up?
[12:02:38] <nick> i've been up all morning, but don't usually get around to eating until 11-12 anyway
[12:02:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> quality weekend scheduling that.
[12:03:11] <nick> get shit done in the morning, autopilot, then sit down for food to figure out wtf
[12:03:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> as it should be
[12:04:12] <nick> i used to keep much more unusual hours generally, but one of the work things required me to get on normal people time for a while
[12:04:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto cept it was the fishes that got me on farmers' hours
[12:05:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.technewstoday.com
[12:05:39] <shekel> ^ 03Tropes vs. Women on the Verge of Wrapping Up
[12:06:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is hilarious cause her kickstarter backers still haven't gotten the videos they were promised.
[12:06:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> years ago
[12:06:17] <nick> find it fairly easy to adapt to what goes on, some of my work is 24hr, some is nights, some is days. but i havn't had a routine for months, like i have the last 3 or so.
[12:07:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh man, i gotta have routine. without routine people need to move slowly and not make any sudden movements around me.
[12:07:37] <Thouren> I like my coffee like my women, black and bitter
[12:08:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Thouren, come visit. My town's like 40% black women.
[12:09:06] <Thouren> TheMightyBuzzard, I live in Detroit, I'm set. I'll keep that in mind once I'm done collecting STD's here
[12:09:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, exaggeration. apparently we're 44.06% black.
[12:10:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> so 22+% black womens.
[12:10:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[12:14:35] <chromas> Bender: grab Thouren
[12:14:35] <Bender> Added quote 661
[12:16:59] <Thouren> TheMightyBuzzard, according to Wolfram Alpha we're looking at 82.2% black here. So roughly 41.1% black women. I'd guess it's higher actually, considering so many black men get themselves incarcerated or killed off young.
[12:18:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> good point. you're pretty well set then
[12:26:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, time to kill some more supermutants
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[14:49:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Negative Interest Rates Arrive in Japan - http://sylnt.us - banking-on-it
[14:50:32] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[14:50:56] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:50:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2145
[14:55:18] * cmn32480 stumbles to the kitchen to make coffee++
[15:21:26] <Runaway1956> http://edition.cnn.com
[15:21:27] <shekel> ^ 03Italian town of Ostana welcomes first baby in 28 years - CNN.com
[15:49:36] <cmn32480> coffee++
[15:49:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2146
[15:50:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Therapy Halts Progression of Lou Gehrig's Disease in Mice - http://sylnt.us - medical-advances-are-good
[15:51:10] <cmn32480> bytram - the sub queue is filling up again... there are 9 subs in it
[15:51:23] <cmn32480> we run it out we coudl be in Tuesday!
[15:52:38] <Bytram> lol!
[15:52:41] <Bytram> coffee++
[15:52:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2147
[15:52:46] <Bytram> !uid
[15:52:46] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6069, owned by roTorbudd
[15:52:47] <cmn32480> coffee++
[15:52:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2148
[15:52:55] <cmn32480> 2 more since last night :-)
[15:53:01] <Bytram> time for me to update my zoo, brb
[15:53:16] <cmn32480> lions and tigers and bears oh my!
[15:53:40] <Bytram> btw, since the last HoF refresh, you added 16 and I added 19 stories. YOWZA!
[15:54:03] <Bytram> and, CoolHand added in 3 as well. what a monster day!
[15:55:19] <cmn32480> you seem to have 1500 sitting there lined up withing for you
[15:55:54] <cmn32480> interesting... the Most active submitters list has changed
[15:56:01] <cmn32480> AndyTheAbsurd is now listed
[15:56:10] <cmn32480> with 93
[15:56:16] <cmn32480> but still no Takyon
[15:56:47] <cmn32480> Me thinks that the mighty buzzard needs to fix statistics for the next upgrade
[15:57:00] <Bytram> hmmm
[15:57:16] <Bytram> does takyon have a bio? without that, he won't appeare on the authors page
[15:57:22] <cmn32480> his user page shows well over 400 stories
[15:57:26] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[15:57:27] <shekel> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: Authors
[15:57:51] <Bytram> shows he has 429 there
[15:58:06] <cmn32480> that is authored (edited) stories
[15:58:10] <cmn32480> I'm talking submissions
[15:58:37] <Bytram> yeah, just figured that out.
[15:58:42] <Bytram> I blame undercaffeination
[15:58:55] <cmn32480> 596 according to his user page
[15:59:03] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[15:59:07] * Bytram takes a look at the code
[15:59:09] <cmn32480> allllllllllllo the way at the bottom
[15:59:09] <shekel> ^ 03takyon - SoylentNews User
[15:59:16] * Bytram views generated source
[16:01:26] * Bytram discovers it should be in template main;hof;default
[16:04:13] * Bytram notes that is where the data is formatted and output
[16:04:20] * Bytram needs to find where the data is gathered.
[16:05:02] * Bytram discovers a likely place; ~/rehash/plugins/Hof/
[16:05:37] * Bytram looks at Hof.pm
[16:06:37] * Bytram finds: sub countStorySubmitters
[16:07:09] * cmn32480 looks for the coffee pot... and decides to try the kitchen
[16:07:26] * Bytram chuckles and fetches more coffee
[16:09:28] * Bytram discovers that the code specifically excludes nicks which exist in the 'authors_cache'
[16:10:28] <Runaway1956> Are you here all alone, and playing by yourself Bytram ?
[16:10:35] * cmn32480 has been summoned
[16:10:39] <cmn32480> back in a bit
[16:10:40] <Bytram> nah, cmn32480 went to fetch coffee
[16:10:49] <Bytram> np
[16:10:54] * cmn32480 has been summoned by J
[16:11:00] <cmn32480> J trumps coffee
[16:11:03] <cmn32480> usually
[16:11:03] <Runaway1956> I wouldn't tolerate such a slow coffee servaant
[16:11:22] <Bytram> ahh, but he is a coffee savant!
[16:11:28] <Bytram> that makes it okay!
[16:11:28] <Runaway1956> LOL
[16:12:18] <Runaway1956> Cool story, piques my interest, but I'll probably not bother chasing after it: https://www.rt.com
[16:12:20] <shekel> ^ 03'Phantom girl' in century-old pictures sends Siberian researchers on frantic search (PHOTOS) — RT News ( https://www.rt.com )
[16:18:46] <Bytram> cool story indeed... 'fascinating'
[16:19:30] <Runaway1956> I suspect that it's an alien invader, who was keeping an eye on the photographer. She looks so sad, because she knew what we were about to do to the czar.
[16:21:12] <Bytram> as good a guess as any, I supposed.
[16:22:46] <Runaway1956> Stuck around St. Petersburg when I saw it was time for a change
[16:22:56] <Runaway1956> Killed the Czar and his ministers,
[16:23:03] <Runaway1956> Anastatia screamed in vain
[16:31:27] <Runaway1956> I sent a letter to Debbie Wasserman Schultz, congratulating her in advance for losing her seat in congress, as a result of backing Clinton.
[16:31:41] <Runaway1956> She's actually kinda cute, but dumb as a rock.
[16:32:54] <Bytram> http://www.cs.uni.edu
[16:32:55] <shekel> ^ 03Knowing and Doing: January 2016 Archives ( http://www.cs.uni.edu )
[16:33:13] <Bytram> ^^^ "Learn Humility By Teaching"
[16:33:47] <Runaway1956> Oooooooh, I could write that up quite well, Bytram - it's a long story though.
[16:34:20] <Bytram> what is long, the story, or the telling of it? ;)
[16:34:25] * Runaway1956 clicks link
[16:34:32] <Runaway1956> Yeah, both
[16:35:34] * Bytram has followed his blog for years... I've found him to be a professor who takes his teaching very seriously and tries very hard to *educate* and to help his students learn
[16:35:44] <Runaway1956> Shortest summary possible, in boot camp, I was made the "education petty officer" - and pretty much remained the EPO throughout my Navy career.
[16:36:33] <Bytram> and, I take it that you had some, ummm, difficulties explaining things in a way that they could all understand and take to heart?
[16:36:50] <Bytram> there is no 'one size fits all' when it comes to education
[16:37:13] <Runaway1956> Actually, yes, but that was short lived. I discovered that I had to study three times as hard, to be able to get the point across to each and every soul who was listening.
[16:37:24] <Bytram> nod nod
[16:37:37] <Runaway1956> Have to know the material far better than "good enough".
[16:37:57] <Bytram> I'm a visual guy. Give me a step-wise break down in text and pictures and I can vacuum information up like crazy; just be sure to give good coverage of the permutation space.
[16:38:26] <Bytram> otoh, if you 8talk* to me, it's gonna take me a hole lot longer as I have to parse the sound into text that I can then understand
[16:38:42] <chromas> "It seems fitting that Minsky left us the same week that Google published the paper Mastering the Game of Go with Deep Neural Networks and Tree Search,"
[16:38:50] <chromas> has anyone seen the movie Antitrust?
[16:38:51] <Bytram> to your point, in short, "If you really want to understand something, try explaining it to someone else."
[16:39:05] <Runaway1956> Yep, you got it.
[16:40:16] <Bytram> what seemed so clear in my mind, at first, oftentimes turns to an ethereal vapor in very short order, as I go about trying to explain it. It is only when I can easily and clearly explain something that I have some confidence that I *do* have an understanding of the material.
[16:40:36] <Bytram> IOW, you can't teach what you do not know.
[16:41:14] <Runaway1956> Precisely.
[16:41:59] <Bytram> well, that does overstate things a bit. It is indeed possible for me to follow a syllabus, and present information to a willing student in such a way that I do not personally understand it, but the student can still learn the material all the same.
[16:42:17] <Bytram> but, it takes a special kind of student, and syllabus / lecture notes, to be able to make that happen.
[16:43:06] <Runaway1956> LOL - finally scrolled down far enough to find the specific blog you were referring to.
[16:44:21] <Bytram> Runaway1956: why not take a stab at writing it up? Seriously. Could start off with a link to the above blog article, mention it resonated for you, and here is your submission based on personal experience. Then, maybe, pose a couple questions. Any fellow Soylentils run into similar challenges? How'd you ovvercome them? Or, reversing things, ever have an excellent / terrible instructor and what were the key differences?
[16:44:43] <Bytram> yeah, his links are, 'not the best'
[16:45:43] <Runaway1956> I might do that - I'm always wanting to write things up, but never seem to get around to it. Chances are, before I've skimmed all of this morning's news, I'll get sleepy, and go to bed . . . old, old story
[16:47:24] <Bytram> strange, here's a direct link to that story, but my browser (pale moon) fails to scroll to it?!!? http://www.cs.uni.edu
[16:47:24] <shekel> ^ 03Knowing and Doing: January 2016 Archives ( http://www.cs.uni.edu )
[16:47:42] <Runaway1956> I've to an editor open, and the first line of the essay is this:
[16:47:53] <Runaway1956> "This is Bytram's fault - if this little essay "offends" anyone, he gets the blame."
[16:48:01] <Bytram> LOL!
[16:49:35] <Bytram> prolly goes without saying, but I refer you to: https://soylentnews.org
[16:49:35] <shekel> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: FAQ
[16:50:21] <Bytram> huh? oh. page title is "SoylentNews FAQ' but the 'entry's title is: "Submissions Guidelines"
[16:50:39] <Runaway1956> Got it . . .
[16:50:50] <Bytram> so, right on item #2 "Provide Original Content."
[16:50:59] <Bytram> so you'd be spot on writing up your experience
[16:51:08] <Runaway1956> Yep.
[16:51:44] <Bytram> another perspective I've come to appreciate, "It's impossible to make things foolproof, because fools are so ingenious."
[16:51:55] <Bytram> so, you do the best you can, and hope that you can deal with the outliers, later.
[16:54:19] <Bytram> I've e-mailed him (Wallingford) in the past -- very approachable kind of guy. If we can schedule things well, I suspect he might like to join in on the discussion, assuming there is sufficient interest/discussion from our community.
[16:54:55] <Bytram> okay, i need to take a break and get going -- today is a work day for me.
[16:55:04] <Bytram> will check back in in a bit.
[17:02:29] <cmn32480> back
[17:02:44] <cmn32480> turns out I was summoned for a haircut
[17:02:57] <cmn32480> and she didn't jsut cut one... damn wife cut them all!
[17:10:53] <Bytram> heh. the jokes just write themselves
[17:11:02] <cmn32480> now I'm bald
[17:11:11] <Bytram> grow a beard
[17:11:16] <cmn32480> she wouldn't cut thqat
[17:11:23] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:11:30] <cmn32480> but she did say "your beard is very fuzzy today"
[17:12:10] <Bytram> interesting story: http://www.nytimes.com
[17:12:11] <shekel> ^ 03( http://www.nytimes.com )
[17:12:25] <Runaway1956> Do NOT permit the wife to cut your mustache. If your wife is like my wife, she just loves to shove those clippers up your nose, and blame you for having such a big nose.
[17:12:47] <cmn32480> mine is only allowed to cut the top and back area
[17:12:47] <Bytram> I've got some work stuff to do for the next 15 minutes or so. biab
[17:12:51] <cmn32480> the beard is my problem
[17:13:02] <cmn32480> ~gday bytram
[17:13:04] * exec spontaneously throws a wine flute of beer at bytram
[17:13:17] <Bytram> hmmm, grow a mohawk ... on your chin? =)
[17:13:21] <Runaway1956> Well, Bytram - the essay begins to take shape. I don't much like the shape of it yet, so I'll just leave it open in the editor for awhile.
[17:13:45] <Bytram> yep, get out the broad outlines, then ruminate a bit, then go back and flesh it out. Works for me
[17:13:46] <cmn32480> let the mind spew it out. then fix it after
[17:13:54] <Bytram> yep
[17:13:56] <Bytram> afk
[17:14:28] <cmn32480> ok
[17:14:43] <cmn32480> queues are good through Monday Noon time Eatern
[17:14:53] <cmn32480> s/eastern/eastern/
[17:14:56] <cmn32480> s/eatern/eastern/
[17:15:15] <cmn32480> grrrr
[17:15:18] <cmn32480> stupid fingers
[17:15:37] <Runaway1956> Monday Noon Eatin' sounds good to me . . .
[17:16:06] <cmn32480> Runaway1956 - it is a rare thign around here to have the story queue full out more than 24 hours
[17:16:28] * Runaway1956 nods
[17:16:55] <Runaway1956> I have far to many browsers, and browser tabs, open - I get lost on my own desktop.
[17:17:17] <cmn32480> bytram and I got on a roll last night... and after we stopped stepping on each other we pushed out >48hours worth of stories
[17:17:30] * Runaway1956 gasps
[17:18:10] <Runaway1956> Isn't that something like TWO WHOLE DAYS?!?!!?!
[17:18:28] <Bytram> nah, more like 4 half-days. ;)
[17:18:37] * Bytram slinks away
[17:18:41] <cmn32480> yep
[17:18:45] <Runaway1956> Oh, well, that's slightly less impressive
[17:19:01] * cmn32480 tosses a grenade down bytram's rabbit hole
[17:19:14] <Bytram> I'm late! I'm late!
[17:19:21] <cmn32480> the story page in the admin console was almost full of new stories
[17:19:22] <Runaway1956> I could do better than a grenade
[17:19:30] <cmn32480> tis all I had handy
[17:19:50] * Runaway1956 tosses a tasmanian female sex scent down after Bytram
[17:20:00] <cmn32480> oh boy
[17:20:23] * Runaway1956 opens the gates at the tasmanian devil zoo enclosure
[17:20:41] * Bytram notes that it took him well over a year to be able to say that 'Tanzanite' came from 'Tanzania' instead of from 'Tasmania' =)
[17:21:14] <Bytram> "Why for you bury me in the cold cold ground?"
[17:21:22] <chromas> tanzanite--
[17:21:22] <Bender> karma - tanzanite: -1
[17:21:26] <Runaway1956> Yeah, but you can't teach tasmainian devils how to pronounce tanzania
[17:21:37] <Bytram> but, I bet YOU can!
[17:21:55] <Runaway1956> Nahhh, they all have cleft palates and hare lips
[17:22:21] <Runaway1956> and, no, I didn't mean hair lips or hairy lips
[17:23:02] <cmn32480> then they need a brazilian
[17:23:12] <Runaway1956> might work
[17:23:15] <Bytram> how many is a brazilian?
[17:23:20] <Bytram> nograb
[17:24:42] <Runaway1956> http://lmgtfy.com
[17:24:43] <shekel> ^ 03Let me google that for you
[17:26:15] <cmn32480> an oldie but goodie
[17:27:06] <Runaway1956> Either I never heard that one before, or I forgot it - How many millions in a Brazilian asks George Bush
[17:27:40] <cmn32480> I menat lmgtfy.com
[17:27:45] * Bytram was hoping you'd get the reference
[17:28:05] <cmn32480> it was a forgotten/never known for me too
[17:29:02] <chromas> Well sure; if he knew about Brazilians, he wouldn't be a Bush
[17:30:18] <cmn32480> googling brazilian on the images tab was probably a bad idea
[17:30:38] <Bytram> lemme guess, you got a brazilian hits on it?
[17:30:46] <cmn32480> I did... browser overload
[17:30:52] <cmn32480> and my kids are now in the room
[17:30:57] <cmn32480> including the one who can read
[17:31:02] <Bytram> oops.
[17:31:11] <cmn32480> doesn't know the meaningof the word
[17:31:37] <Runaway1956> ROFLMAO
[17:31:47] <cmn32480> he's 7
[17:31:51] <cmn32480> give him a break
[17:32:00] <cmn32480> runaway
[17:32:06] <Runaway1956> ??????
[17:32:08] <cmn32480> my kids are 7, 5 and 4
[17:32:27] <cmn32480> 1 of 3 can read at this point
[17:32:35] <Runaway1956> Those are good ages - they don't yet know everything, and they haven't yet realized that Daddy is an idiot
[17:32:42] <cmn32480> uh huh
[17:32:50] <cmn32480> to them I'm still almost God-like
[17:33:07] <Runaway1956> You've got about five more years . . . if you're lucky.
[17:33:21] <cmn32480> nope
[17:33:24] <cmn32480> not even
[17:33:34] <cmn32480> the 7 is already showing signs of independance
[17:33:45] <cmn32480> and worse questioning of us
[17:33:51] <Runaway1956> You should probably boil him for dinner, before it's to late.
[17:34:06] <cmn32480> he's really skinny... not much meat on the bones
[17:34:29] <Bytram> stone soup
[17:34:33] <Runaway1956> Well, keep him in a small pen, and feed him all the corn he'll eat. That's what we do.
[17:35:01] <Runaway1956> Of course, we don't usually let the piglets reach 7 years old.
[17:35:18] <Bytram> winnie the pooh knew piglet
[17:35:38] <Runaway1956> Yes - and did you ever notice how fat Winnie is?
[17:35:48] <Runaway1956> He apparently knew lots of piglets.
[17:36:13] <Runaway1956> Winnie IS an omnivore, after all.
[17:36:28] * chromas hides the hunny jar
[17:37:43] <Runaway1956> "The time has come," the Walrus said,
[17:37:43] <Runaway1956> "To talk of many things:
[17:41:59] <Bytram> I am the walrus
[17:42:07] <Bytram> ka cook a chew
[17:42:12] <Runaway1956> koo koo ka choo
[17:42:32] <Runaway1956> you beat me, lol
[17:42:51] <Bytram> with a wet noodle, FSM FTW
[17:42:59] <Bytram> ;)
[17:43:08] <Runaway1956> http://www.jabberwocky.com
[17:43:14] <Runaway1956> more like a steamed oyster
[17:43:35] <Bytram> coded in pe[a]rl?
[17:44:53] <cmn32480> back in a whjile
[17:45:00] <Runaway1956> Well, speaking of many things, I can hear my pillow calling me - I suppose I had better go abuse it.
[17:45:00] <cmn32480> gotta do some stuff w/ the kids
[17:45:02] <Bytram> likewise
[17:45:17] * Bytram needs a quick nap and shower before heading in to work today
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[23:50:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Greetings life forms.
[23:52:00] <SirFinkus> lo
[23:52:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Sitting on ass, drinkink
[23:52:54] <SirFinkus> none for me yet
[23:53:05] <Ethanol-fueled> I have to put myself to sleep early, is why
[23:53:08] <SirFinkus> gonna make hamburger mac in a bit
[23:53:13] <Ethanol-fueled> noice
[23:53:22] <Ethanol-fueled> that's some hardcore gourmet shit right there.
[23:53:35] <SirFinkus> err
[23:53:39] <SirFinkus> "Macaroni and Beef Casserole"
[23:53:48] <SirFinkus> (it's hamburger mac and cheese)
[23:53:55] <SirFinkus> http://cooking.nytimes.com
[23:53:55] <shekel> ^✓ 03Macaroni and Beef Casserole Recipe - NYT Cooking
[23:53:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Have you ever got a handjob from Hamburger Helper?
[23:54:07] <SirFinkus> I can't wait to have this inside me
[23:54:14] <SirFinkus> nope
[23:54:25] <Ethanol-fueled> http://mealsandmovesblog.com
[23:54:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Ultimate creamy stroganoff
[23:54:36] <SirFinkus> ever get an handjob from a salvation army bell ringer?
[23:54:45] <SirFinkus> they're really good
[23:55:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Holy fuck that's some good mac and beef casserole
[23:55:07] <Ethanol-fueled> that is some gourmet shit
[23:55:16] * Ethanol-fueled would leave out the basil and oregano tho
[23:55:41] <SirFinkus> I'm going to try it with both, it's for the tomato shit
[23:56:40] <Ethanol-fueled> What's the most complicated thing you ever cooked?
[23:56:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Without help?
[23:57:04] <SirFinkus> hmm, nothing really impressive
[23:57:18] <SirFinkus> I've made sushi, which impresses people who don't know how fucking easy it is to make
[23:57:32] <Ethanol-fueled> can you do rolls?
[23:57:38] <SirFinkus> easy as fuck
[23:58:10] <SirFinkus> if you know how to chop shit up, you can do rolls
[23:58:19] <SirFinkus> the only part where you can really go wrong is the rice
[23:59:04] <SirFinkus> retards try it with enriched long grain rice, or even worse, sticky rice
[23:59:48] <SirFinkus> sometimes the use the correct type of rice, but don't rinse it first