#Soylent | Logs for 2016-01-17
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[00:14:37] <cmn32480> sorry kids... we'll try harder next time
[00:29:56] * SirFinkus saw "free tube" and got excited
[00:36:26] <SirFinkus> socks are pretty hot too
[00:36:42] <SirFinkus> I'm not a food guy, but socks are hot
[00:37:02] <SirFinkus> usually in the context of skirts
[00:37:21] <SirFinkus> or shorts, those work too
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[00:59:22] <SirFinkus> what kind of socks SpallsInSocks?
[01:00:04] <SpallsInSocks> thick black knee-high socks worn under my sandals :)
[01:00:24] <SirFinkus> sandals are a turn off, but those can be removed
[01:00:49] <SirFinkus> but socks like that require synergy with good shorts or a nice skirt
[01:02:16] <SpallsInSocks> sorry, no can do. Maybe a stained and holed wife-beater :)
[01:03:55] <SirFinkus> bah
[01:04:00] <SirFinkus> you miss the point of socks
[01:04:09] * SirFinkus grumbles
[01:04:26] <SpallsInSocks> to highlight my hairy knees?
[01:04:29] <SirFinkus> maybe if I drink more it'll work
[01:04:43] <SirFinkus> you didn't shave for me?
[01:04:47] <SirFinkus> you now I like hairless twinks
[01:04:51] <SirFinkus> *know
[01:09:00] <crutchy> aww crap
[01:09:19] * crutchy just discovered the infamous crab being sucked into the pipe vid
[01:09:23] <crutchy> http://i.imgur.com
[01:11:41] <SirFinkus> https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:11:42] <SirFinkus> have this
[01:11:46] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03Wiki: Hydrofluoric acid ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[01:12:03] <SirFinkus> https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:12:04] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03Wiki: Hydrofluoric acid ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[01:12:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple May Need to Pay $8 Billion in Back Taxes - http://sylnt.us - apple-a-day
[01:18:45] <crutchy> awesome derp dog meme template: http://i.imgur.com
[01:21:48] SpallsInSocks is now known as SpallsHurgenson
[01:32:33] * SpallsHurgenson grooves to the music
[01:49:59] <crutchy> http://i.imgur.com
[01:51:45] <SpallsHurgenson> my firefox doesn't seem to animate gifv
[02:17:52] <Gravis> SpallsHurgenson: that's your fault for using firefox
[02:18:46] <crutchy> lmao
[02:18:48] <crutchy> https://imgur.com
[02:18:54] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03subtle - Imgur
[02:19:05] * crutchy should watch tv just to see this ad
[02:24:59] <SpallsHurgenson> nothing is worth watching TV for anymore :)
[02:47:04] <chromas> I think you need webm support for gifvs
[03:01:16] * SpallsHurgenson throws a handful of oddly-shaped dice at chromas in a completely unprovoked attack
[03:04:33] * cmn32480 is jsut happy to not have updated exec while crutchy was on vacation
[03:05:20] <crutchy> aww be adventurous :D
[03:05:35] <cmn32480> hmmmm... no
[03:05:56] <cmn32480> I like scheduled updates.
[03:06:01] <cmn32480> once a year or so
[03:06:16] <cmn32480> kinda like soylentNews
[03:06:27] <cmn32480> we get an update once a year if we need it or not
[03:06:49] <cmn32480> and on that date I cahnge my underoos. Whether I need to or not
[03:08:54] <SpallsHurgenson> just don't change the socks; SirFinkus likes it when you wear socks
[03:09:19] <SirFinkus> it's true
[03:09:21] <cmn32480> knee high... wiht extra hair at the top
[03:09:26] <cmn32480> and no sandles
[03:13:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Petroleum Price Hits 12-Year Low; Layoffs & Bankruptcies Loom for Fossil Fuel Sector - http://sylnt.us - bad-news-for-tar-sands-workers-and-frackers
[03:14:02] <cmn32480> looking for a dept line for an ask soylent about a liveCD w/ the NVidia drivers already baked in
[03:19:19] <cmn32480> ~confucius
[03:19:22] <exec> Ain’t nobody out at that time a night but burglars and bad women.
[03:19:28] <cmn32480> ~confucius
[03:19:30] <exec> Confucius say… surgeon who make mistake, forced to take a cut in salary.
[03:19:42] <cmn32480> ~openthepodbaydoors
[03:19:43] <exec> "By the time they had diminished from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began
[03:19:43] <exec> to suspect 'Hungry' ..."
[03:19:43] <exec> -- Gary Larson, "The Far Side"
[03:19:44] <HL3-Confirmed> Karma - : -1
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[03:40:11] <cmn32480> mmmmm chocolate ice cream w/ chocolate chips, chocolate sprinkles, and crushed brownie brittle. and a dash of rainbow sprinkles for color.
[03:42:16] <SpallsHurgenson> no chocolate fudge?
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[03:42:29] <cmn32480> nah. don't like it
[03:43:27] <cmn32480> wtf was that? hypatia? Imogene been here forever.
[03:45:21] <Deucalion> What's not to like? mathematician, astronomer and philosopher.....
[03:46:39] <Deucalion> Besides, you can't even spell "Imogen" after all this time... shows how much you care :P
[03:46:56] <cmn32480> I care enough to have noticed!
[03:47:01] <cmn32480> see all the rest of the cahtter?
[03:47:25] <Deucalion> You think I bother to read back splatter on #soylent?
[03:47:31] <cmn32480> hell no
[03:47:47] <cmn32480> but I've got the site full to like 1pm tomorrow
[03:47:52] <cmn32480> so that's an upside
[03:48:04] <Deucalion> Good job sir :)
[03:48:14] <cmn32480> I try
[03:48:29] <cmn32480> beats helping the wife de-christmas-ify the house finally
[03:49:10] <SirFinkus> "Over time, the ASUS OnHub router learns your usage behavior to get smarter and deliver always up-to-date optimal Wi-Fi performance..."
[03:49:12] <SirFinkus> terrifying
[03:49:26] <Deucalion> I'll be over here creating IRC bots with the Greek / Egyptian theme going on... beats drawing on the wall with crayons.
[03:49:35] * cmn32480 looks to see if that feature can get turned off....
[03:49:54] <cmn32480> isn't that what #soylent is for?
[03:50:02] <cmn32480> drawing on the walls in crayon, I mean
[03:52:47] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, what does that even mean? A router that learns your behaviour... wtf is that? Just... use antenna(s).. broadcast signal... provide routing like a good little router and do nothing else. We have AI in home routers now? Or is this some horrific "cloud" connected BS that shits your internet usage to ASUS to "improve your experience of their products". Blurgh... my lawn or something...
[03:53:09] <SirFinkus> I don't know, I just got a spam for it in email
[03:53:20] <SirFinkus> I suspect the altter
[03:53:21] <SirFinkus> latter
[03:54:00] <cmn32480> I'd agree... they track all yer shit
[03:54:38] <Deucalion> S'OK - it'll be legally required here soon... nothing to hide no reason to worry.
[03:55:00] <cmn32480> even with nothign to hide still reasons to worry
[03:55:36] <cmn32480> I started surfing with noscript again... and was again shocked by how badly most of the web doesn't degrade gracefully
[03:56:17] <cmn32480> anbody got a hlaf decent poll suggestion?
[04:03:40] <Deucalion> Do you trust your government? 1. Yes 2. No. 3. I git guns... who cares about gubmint? 4. What government? 5. Hang them all, power mad bastards 6. Bomb Eye-Ran 7. The inter-galaxial governance seems fine, why do you ask?
[04:04:43] <cmn32480> better than the question I was gonna ask!
[04:05:27] <Deucalion> 8. Anyone for Tea or Pimm's? Who needs governance when you can blimming well have a cucumber sandwich!
[04:05:40] <Deucalion> 9. Polo anyone?
[04:07:22] <Deucalion> Wait.. how many options do we get on these polls?
[04:07:32] <cmn32480> 8
[04:08:32] <Deucalion> Gubbermint interference again no doubt, reducing our choices... damn them. I demand free polls!!! /me shoots into the air
[04:09:11] <cmn32480> http://imgur.com
[04:09:12] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
[04:09:22] <cmn32480> hows that look Deucalion?
[04:09:57] <cmn32480> I was thinking about replacing the NCommander option with Abstain due to NSA fears
[04:10:44] <Deucalion> Well - somewhere you need to incorporate TMB on the Anarchy ticket :D
[04:11:12] <cmn32480> interesting
[04:13:05] * Deucalion wonders what #soylent could achieve if it ever took itself seriously.... I suspect we are all far to cynical for that by now :D
[04:13:18] <cmn32480> duh?
[04:14:51] <cmn32480> it'll go live at 1/8/2016 00:00:00
[04:14:55] <cmn32480> 1/18
[04:15:36] * Hypatia That will be fine cmn32480
[04:15:51] <cmn32480> Thank you Hypatia.
[04:16:34] <cmn32480> I am glad you approve
[04:16:50] <Deucalion> Voices from the past... would be foolish to ignore them :)
[04:17:14] <cmn32480> those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it?
[04:17:35] * Hypatia Something like that
[04:19:03] * Hypatia I just tried to make sense of shit, then some Christians showed up and killed me. What do I know.... I thought I was doing OK up until then.
[04:19:25] <SirFinkus> http://www.hoajonline.com oh thank god
[04:19:26] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03Fulltext | Reversal of hair greying following autologous adipose mesenchymal stem cell transplantations: a coincidental finding | Stem Cell Biology and Research
[04:19:52] <cmn32480> psht... BALD
[04:19:55] * SirFinkus started graying at 18
[04:20:08] * cmn32480 started balding at 18
[04:20:36] <SirFinkus> that sucks
[04:20:44] <SirFinkus> graying is still pretty bad
[04:20:52] <Deucalion> Sounds better than transplanting pubes to the head at least...
[04:21:23] <SirFinkus> I don't have the balls to shave my head
[04:21:34] <SirFinkus> you've got me paranoid now
[04:21:34] <Deucalion> As an aside, who wants a 20's hairline at 40? Wouldn't that indicate a severe hormonal problem?
[04:21:41] * SirFinkus checks for gray pubes
[04:21:45] <SpallsHurgenson> you'd have better luck with scissors and a razor anyway
[04:21:52] <SirFinkus> still good I think
[04:21:57] <SirFinkus> you balding Deucalion?
[04:22:17] <cmn32480> I had a 40's hairline at 20
[04:22:30] <SirFinkus> you're just jelly of my beautiful long flowing locks of gray hair
[04:23:09] <cmn32480> nope
[04:23:14] <Deucalion> Receding front with monk spot on top.... only giants get to see the monk spot though :D
[04:23:30] <cmn32480> I spend about $4 annually on shampoo
[04:23:46] <Deucalion> SirFinkus is Assaange!!!
[04:23:49] <SirFinkus> oh, here's a sn poll
[04:23:49] <cmn32480> deucalion is like 3 meters tall
[04:23:55] <SirFinkus> gray or grey
[04:24:17] <cmn32480> dunno... that is kind of a grey area
[04:25:16] <SirFinkus> gray, grey or #808080
[04:26:31] <SpallsHurgenson> grei
[04:28:26] <SirFinkus> another good poll http://i.imgur.com
[04:28:28] <Deucalion> Fun corporate game... grow the hair... have meeting on Friday. #1 shave over the weekend. Meeting on Monday... everyone so obsessed with thinking you became some fascist overlord over the weekend, anything you suggest gets stamped out of sheer fear. PROFIT!! I should write a book on ridiculous meeting tactics. Maybe I call it "Shock the Fuckers into Agreement!"
[04:29:29] <SirFinkus> "fun corporate game" sounds like an oxymoron
[04:29:43] <cmn32480> i couldn't shave... my kids wouldn't know who I was
[04:30:21] <Deucalion> The only way to stay alive in a corporate environment is to treat it as a game SirFinkus
[04:30:27] * SirFinkus goes back to openmw
[04:31:08] <takyon> hey
[04:31:14] <takyon> does anyone have that kepler planet chart
[04:31:16] <SirFinkus> "A" is the correct poll answer btw
[04:33:14] <takyon> i don't think it's on a nasa domain, maybe JPL
[04:33:15] * Deucalion answers Z - cos I can.... didn't read any of the options, just like to be contrary :P
[04:33:38] <cmn32480> http://kepler.nasa.gov
[04:33:40] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03Kepler: GALLERY INDEX
[04:33:58] <cmn32480> there are a shitton of plaent charts on that page
[04:35:17] <takyon> yeah I remember one that was updated, not a single image, though
[04:35:23] <takyon> hmmm
[04:35:48] <takyon> maybe its caltech
[04:36:18] <Deucalion> Space... it's quite big isn't it? I suspect Hypatia knew more about it than I do before her untimely demise. Something, something history destroyed.. something, something.
[04:37:58] <Deucalion> Somewhere in this channel is a PRINCE2 project manager itching to deliver a "lessons learned" document :D
[04:38:42] <takyon> well i got enough for now
[04:40:43] <cmn32480> ok
[04:40:45] <cmn32480> time for bed
[04:40:53] <cmn32480> y'all get some rest too
[04:40:59] <julian> SirFinkus: that ZR, man
[04:41:07] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[04:41:09] * exec unjustifiably pours a wine flute of splodge for #soylent
[04:42:13] <SirFinkus> I was summoned?
[04:42:29] <SirFinkus> oh, socks, yes socks are great
[04:42:39] <SirFinkus> spats are great too
[04:44:25] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[04:44:26] * exec covertly flings a DD cup of milo at #soylent
[04:44:50] <Deucalion> ~gnight cmn32480
[04:44:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Antarctic Ice May Conceal the World's Most Massive Canyon - http://sylnt.us - hidden-features
[04:44:52] * exec abnormally throws an assfull of beer at cmn32480
[04:45:05] <takyon> i'm emailing someone about a lot of Kepler exoplanet stuff
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[04:46:28] <Deucalion> takyon,
[04:46:40] <Deucalion> heehe
[04:47:47] <takyon> why
[04:51:15] <Deucalion> My fingers ran faster than my thoughts. I was thinking you could do a Q&A type thing and my little finger had a brainfart and decided to hit the return key too early. Shit happens... I'm still dealing with PTSD from 'nam or something. :D
[04:54:26] <Deucalion> I'm sure if I sign my house over to my psycho-analyst all will be revealed as to why I hit return before typing.. until then, they assure me my $10K / month and an hour on their couch keeps me sane :D
[04:56:57] <takyon> okey dokey
[04:57:09] <Deucalion> ** small print.... Deucalion has no house, no psycho-analyst, did not serve in Vietnam, and in no way tries to represent such people, this channel is for entertainment only.
[04:57:36] * SirFinkus is listening to Stoned Jesus — I'm the Mountain, from the album Seven Thunders Roar
[05:02:11] * Deucalion slaps everyone with a large trout and retires for the night.
[05:14:54] <crutchy> Deucalion, you have failed neconservatism 101!
[05:15:10] <crutchy> *neoconservatism
[05:16:20] * crutchy takes Deucalion's fox news subscriber badge
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[05:34:47] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup.
[05:35:20] <SirFinkus> lo
[05:36:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Had dinner with a bytch, now chillin and listening to the ghetto bird hovering overhead.
[05:36:17] <Ethanol-fueled> The cops have a section of blocks next to me cordoned off.
[05:37:15] <Ethanol-fueled> I bet a minority did it.
[05:37:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Also, I just saw a dog bark at a black guy.
[05:37:39] <SirFinkus> I have military helicopters buzzing my house on a regular basis
[05:37:42] <SirFinkus> it's super annoying
[05:37:50] <Ethanol-fueled> From Bremerton?
[05:38:13] <SirFinkus> no, Ft. Lewis / McChord
[05:38:37] <SirFinkus> I'd assume at least
[05:39:25] <SirFinkus> they do artillery practice too sometimes, which is neat
[05:39:28] <SirFinkus> makes the windows rattle
[05:39:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[05:45:15] <Ethanol-fueled> HL3-Confirmed.
[05:45:18] * Ethanol-fueled chuckles
[05:47:40] <SirFinkus> at this point it's pretty much guaranteed to be shit
[05:47:46] <SirFinkus> we're in DNF territory
[05:48:04] <Ethanol-fueled> ~define DNF
[05:48:05] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03DNF: Did Not Finish. An event for which the partcipant never finishes.
[05:48:32] <SirFinkus> Duke Nukem Forever
[05:48:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Everything, vidya or movies or TV, is shit now because of rampant political correctness.
[05:49:12] <Ethanol-fueled> The girl I was just out with was like, "Yeah, i heard the new star wars was good, I wanna see it"
[05:49:21] <Ethanol-fueled> PfffffffHAWWWWWWWWWW.
[05:49:31] <SirFinkus> movies have been shit for ages
[05:49:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Fortunately she knows I'm a racist and a purist about the handful of Sci-Fi I DO know jack shit about.
[05:50:05] <SirFinkus> video games have just become more mainstream
[05:50:13] <SirFinkus> the big ones anyway
[05:50:19] <SirFinkus> still lots of great niche games out there
[05:50:38] <Ethanol-fueled> like what, Fink? Flash anime rape games?
[05:50:51] <SirFinkus> Dwarf Fortress
[05:51:18] <SirFinkus> Risk of Rain is good, Arma series is good
[05:51:36] <SirFinkus> Eve Online could be good, if only the gameplay wasn't so boring
[05:51:59] <Ethanol-fueled> how is it boring? too much grinding required?
[05:52:10] <SirFinkus> eve doesn't have any grinding
[05:52:18] <SirFinkus> everything about the game is awesome except the gameplay
[05:52:25] <SirFinkus> like the flying ships and stuff
[05:52:28] <Ethanol-fueled> As a (now) non-gamer the concept sounds pretty badass, and I've had coworkers who didn't get any sleep the night before because they were in raids.
[05:53:02] <SirFinkus> those massive fleet fights are lag clusterfucks
[05:53:08] <SirFinkus> the bounty system is broken
[05:53:20] <SirFinkus> low sec piracy is nigh impossible
[05:53:21] <Ethanol-fueled> I figured if I did get back into gaming and get addicted to something it'd be Eve. And the last time I was a serious gamer was in the SNES days with Deus Ex in between only because it came with my graphics card.
[05:53:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck that sucks.
[05:53:27] <SirFinkus> at least last time I played it a few years ago
[05:54:08] <SirFinkus> it's an awesome game to read about though
[05:54:14] <SirFinkus> it's the meta shit that's fun
[05:54:25] <SirFinkus> scamming people is encouraged
[05:54:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh yeah, if the game has its own economy, why the fuck not?
[05:54:53] <SirFinkus> the only real mmo imo
[05:55:08] <SirFinkus> all the other ones are chatrooms compared to eve
[05:55:18] <SirFinkus> towns are just lobbies
[05:55:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Is it one of those games where you lose all your shit when you "die"?
[05:55:42] <SirFinkus> no, generally you just lose your ship
[05:55:52] <SirFinkus> but the fun part is that can be a big fucking deal
[05:56:35] <SirFinkus> if you're carrying supplies out to null sec, or a valuable blueprint, your ship being ganked can have huge ramifications
[05:57:09] <SirFinkus> it's an mmo where disrupting supply lines is a valid (and effective) tactic
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[05:57:37] <Ethanol-fueled> That sounds pretty cool.
[05:57:55] <SirFinkus> I got into the market PVP for a while
[05:58:16] <SirFinkus> margin trading and ferrying materials between systems for a hefty profit
[05:58:36] <SirFinkus> also dabbled in piracy and being a general asshole
[05:58:43] <Ethanol-fueled> assholes++
[05:58:43] <Bender> karma - assholes: 1
[05:58:59] <SirFinkus> one of my favorite things to do was scan down mission runners and steal their loot and salvage their wrecks
[05:59:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahaha
[06:00:01] <SirFinkus> https://wiki.eveonline.com one of the better events in EVE
[06:00:02] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03Hulkageddon - EVElopedia
[06:01:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahaha, pretty badass.
[06:04:03] <SirFinkus> the devs are great, they haven't caved to people whining about scams and "unfair" tactics
[06:04:20] <SirFinkus> if you die or lose a bunch of shit, and the other person wasn't hacking, it's on you
[06:05:02] <Ethanol-fueled> That's just what I was about to ask - if the admins are ban-hungry fuckheads.
[06:05:29] <SirFinkus> very, very rarely
[06:05:44] <SirFinkus> one guy posted an ad on the forums
[06:05:55] <Ethanol-fueled> That's ban-worthy.
[06:06:04] <SirFinkus> for an in game item
[06:06:31] <SirFinkus> so he said he was going to park a very expensive ship in the most populous system in the game, eject, and whoever got in it first would get to keep the ship
[06:06:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahah, nice.
[06:06:51] <Ethanol-fueled> did he get banned?
[06:06:52] <SirFinkus> hundreds of people showed up, right next to the ship in their pods
[06:07:03] <SirFinkus> but he had smartbombs
[06:07:06] <Ethanol-fueled> HaHAHAHAHAAHAH
[06:07:14] <SirFinkus> he lit off the smartbombs, dying in the process
[06:07:21] <Ethanol-fueled> that's fucking rad, man.
[06:07:23] <SirFinkus> but killing hundreds of pods
[06:07:29] <Ethanol-fueled> I'd buy him a beer.
[06:07:53] <SirFinkus> then there were the guys who got hired by a corp to infiltrate a rival
[06:08:13] <SirFinkus> over the course of about a year, they joined the other corp and gradually worked their way up the ranks until they were the most trusted members
[06:08:50] <SirFinkus> then they ganked the ceo when he was in his fanciest ship, looted the corp hanger, and delivered the ceo's frozen corpse back to their clients
[06:09:02] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
[06:10:19] <SirFinkus> one of the largest alliances in the game was destroyed almost overnight by spies
[06:10:40] <SirFinkus> http://eve.klaki.net
[06:10:47] <SirFinkus> this is the story I was talking about earlier
[06:16:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Probe Launched After Mischiefmaker Invades James Clapper's Verizon Broadband Account - http://sylnt.us - what-comes-around
[06:16:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Bahahah.
[06:16:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Fucking high-school kid hacking big shots. Poetic justice at its best.
[06:17:18] <Ethanol-fueled> It's shit like this which, if true, gives me faith in millenial scum.
[06:17:39] * Ethanol-fueled is technically a millenial since born after '80
[06:17:46] <SirFinkus> https://truestories.eveonline.com
[06:17:48] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03EVE Online | The Mittani Sends His Regards: Disbanding Band of Brothers
[06:17:52] <SirFinkus> this happened around the time I was playing
[06:18:57] <Ethanol-fueled> ‘disband an alliance with a spy’ had never been done; it wasn’t part of the standard playbook.
[06:19:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Bahahahahahaha.
[06:19:11] <Ethanol-fueled> "standard playbook"
[06:19:39] <Ethanol-fueled> show this "standard fucking playbook," then.
[06:21:26] <SirFinkus> that one wasn't as impressive to me, it seemed too "gamey"
[06:24:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, shit. If any so-called "rules" can be broken, they will.
[06:25:23] <SirFinkus> it just isn't as impressive, the first story could work in real life, the second one couldn't really
[06:25:25] <Ethanol-fueled> That's like saying that nobody will troll the SN discussions because "our readership are civil, and they know the ground rules"
[06:25:35] <crutchy> aye focker!
[06:25:55] <crutchy> are you a wage slave again?
[06:26:07] <crutchy> join us in the ranks
[06:26:34] <Ethanol-fueled> indeed, crutch. They didn't want to hire me for a decent position because they think I'm gonna bail when I graduate...so they sent me to the sweatshop.
[06:26:53] <crutchy> noice
[06:26:55] <Ethanol-fueled> I get paid good money to be on my feet torquing bolts 8 hours a day. But I like the job.
[06:27:08] <Ethanol-fueled> building chemical laser chambers.
[06:27:18] <crutchy> torquing bolts is an art
[06:27:41] <crutchy> its funny how a lot of people seem to confuse torque and bolt tension
[06:28:36] <crutchy> i did too for a long time
[06:29:07] <crutchy> only in my current job did i find out that its very difficult to tension a bolt properly using torque as a measure
[06:30:28] <Ethanol-fueled> It's not an exact science. And the procedures are so poorly written that even torquing it per the procedure still leaves a gap.
[06:30:45] <crutchy> yeah that would make sense
[06:31:10] <Ethanol-fueled> The max torque on those bolts is 250 inch-pounds and one more run than stated is necessary.
[06:32:10] <crutchy> i still get phone calls with clients asking for what the torque for 'snug tight' is
[06:32:25] <Ethanol-fueled> It's the first time I've realized how inexact working with torquing and helium leak-testing really is. It's literally one of those situations where, if it fails, you literally cycle the power on all the equipment you use and then everything passes.
[06:32:49] <SirFinkus> that's easy crutchy, tell them to get the longest wrench possible and put all their weight on it
[06:32:58] <crutchy> pretty much
[06:33:10] <crutchy> there's no value though eh
[06:33:38] <crutchy> i usually give them an approximate with a big disclaimer
[06:34:04] <SirFinkus> that does seem like a pretty good "cover your ass" instruction
[06:34:05] <Ethanol-fueled> fink, there's a running joke in the oil industry where you use bigger than a 3/8 inch bolt because that's the max size a knucklehead can snap with his own physical strength.
[06:34:32] <SirFinkus> if whatever widget you're supporting breaks and they try to warranty it, you can just claim they tightened the bolts too tightly/not tightly enough
[06:34:38] <crutchy> i never use anything less than M16 for structural stuff
[06:34:47] <crutchy> i dunno what that is in imerial
[06:35:00] <crutchy> .convert 16 mm in
[06:35:10] <crutchy> ~convert 16 mm in
[06:35:11] <exec> 0316 mm = 0.63 in
[06:35:16] <crutchy> oh
[06:35:23] <crutchy> probably 0.625 i guess
[06:35:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, that only wins because lazy fucks want to hand-tighten with a breaker bar rather than use the fucking torque wrench.
[06:35:51] <crutchy> in the standards they say to use a specific type of wrench
[06:35:51] <Ethanol-fueled> not lazy, maybe they're under time constraints and using a breaker rather than torquing is faster.
[06:36:07] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy - standards. Bahaha.
[06:36:17] <SirFinkus> is there a torque wrench with a "snug tight" setting?
[06:36:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Engineers write standards. Technicians look down upon them as autists who have never had to do the actual job they are writing the governing procedures for.
[06:36:59] <crutchy> some industries require torquing, particularly things like pressure vessels with full face gaskets
[06:37:48] <crutchy> i think academics write standards. engineers tend to just find all the fuck ups and inconsistencies in them
[06:37:59] <SirFinkus> some industries require twerking
[06:38:09] <crutchy> SirFinkus, true
[06:38:29] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, that works for pressure vessels because there is usually only one or two on-site. Tell the guy who is required to bang out 9-10 a day to "properly torque" them and he's going to reach for the breaker, and if you're lucky finish them with the torque wrench.
[06:38:33] <crutchy> though i'm not sure how they measure twerking
[06:39:22] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, problem with full face gaskets is you gotta seat them otherwise they leak, so they often require some pretty big torques
[06:39:26] <Ethanol-fueled> If they have to do a gap check with a feeler gauge afterwards then if they do a good enough job with the breaker, the gap check and leak check will pass.
[06:39:37] <crutchy> ah
[06:40:07] <crutchy> i guess that's why a lot of manufacturers are going with o-rings instead of gaskets
[06:40:23] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, I know, I've worked with them all. I've seen a fucker blow up a 10K PSI rated chamber because the pump kept running without lube.
[06:40:45] <crutchy> ergh. nasty
[06:41:32] <Ethanol-fueled> the chamber was designed such that if there wasn't enough fluid to pressurize to the setpoint, then it interpreted it as "needs more pressure" and ran the pump in dry conditions
[06:42:13] <Ethanol-fueled> It was sufficient to fill a whole warehouse with smoke because it ran overnight and with nobody checking up on it.
[06:42:25] <arti> damn
[06:43:26] <crutchy> twerking is probably measured in mileys
[06:43:50] <Ethanol-fueled> twerking is the pittbull of dancing - for n****** only.
[06:44:26] <crutchy> yeah black chicks twerk way better than white chicks
[06:44:35] <crutchy> they got the ass for it
[06:44:54] <Ethanol-fueled> White chicks got thick butts too.
[06:44:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Ask Sarah Sharp.
[06:45:03] * Ethanol-fueled kneads dick
[06:45:06] <crutchy> white chicks with ass like that are usually glued to couches though
[06:46:36] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, that's untrue. My aunt has an elepantine ass compared to the rest of her body, and she ain't no couch potato.
[06:46:46] <crutchy> o.O
[06:47:08] * crutchy tries to eject that thought
[06:47:10] * arti imagines many soft folds
[06:47:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Sometimes, in very rare occasions, normal people can actually blame genetics.
[06:47:22] <arti> the ice cream?
[06:48:12] <crutchy> http://www.foxnews.com
[06:48:12] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03Kerry says Iran has completed steps in nuclear deal, 'First day of a safer world' | Fox News
[06:48:19] <arti> hahaha
[06:48:21] <crutchy> yay! iran are the good guys now
[06:48:23] <Ethanol-fueled> She was never short of men. But later in life she married a retired Navy cook named "lucky" 20 years her senior and inherited his trailer and other goodies.
[06:48:36] <crutchy> lookout whatever the next pissant country on the list is
[06:48:59] <crutchy> maybe its burkina faso
[06:49:06] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, the deal with Iran is probably the first GOOD news I've read in a long time.
[06:49:21] <crutchy> yeah i got no beef with iran
[06:49:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Let the scheming K**** and the House of Saud fall.
[06:49:34] <arti> i like my iran with a side of beef
[06:49:34] <crutchy> makes me wonder what went on behind closed doors though
[06:49:44] <arti> lots of petting
[06:50:12] <arti> maybe there was a scout merit badge
[06:50:22] * crutchy wonders if russia played more of a role what what is being reported
[06:51:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Rossiya probably did.
[06:51:46] * crutchy imagines russian defense minister in call with john kerry: "ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS—EXCEPT IRAN. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE"
[06:51:58] <Ethanol-fueled> but I doubt it was by force.
[06:52:08] <Ethanol-fueled> bullshit.
[06:52:31] <crutchy> russia probably bargained with the RD180
[06:52:52] <crutchy> USAF seems to be pretty fucked without those rocket engines nowadays
[06:53:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah. But we shouldn't be fucking with Russia, or Iran.
[06:53:58] <Ethanol-fueled> We should be nuking Israel and the Arabian peninsula.
[06:54:38] <crutchy> yeah i'm kinda fucked why saudi arabia is still one of the good guys
[06:54:51] <crutchy> specially after what they helped do to the oil price
[06:55:02] <Ethanol-fueled> I've had a pretty harsh judgement of Obama, but under his watch the normalization of Cuba and Iran is something he got right.
[06:55:37] <Ethanol-fueled> saudi arabia was offered the chair of human rights at the UN. That alone proves that the system is broken, and needs further breaking.
[06:56:08] <crutchy> it would be better if corporate taxes were more business-friendly. at this rate cuba will just become another tax haven
[06:56:34] <Ethanol-fueled> All this talk, leading up to Iraq war II, about "despotic brutal dictators" like Hussein, Khadafi, Assad. All while sucking the Saudi regime's dick.
[06:56:49] <crutchy> yeah its pretty bent
[06:56:59] <arti> http://coalitionstate.com
[06:57:02] <arti> just for you ef
[06:57:52] <crutchy> though i think saudi arabia was there when the US floated the petro dollar in the early 70's. maybe the gentlemen's agreement with saudi arabia is still in effect
[06:58:08] <crutchy> SA was promised protection by the US
[06:58:56] <crutchy> in exchange for global USD hegemony
[06:59:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Right. Let's hope that America has a divestment strategy from the petrodollar.
[07:00:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Which should have been devised shortly after or preferably before 9/11, if the people running this country had a smidgen of intelligence.
[07:03:12] <crutchy> there's no doubt a divestment strategy. i just wouldn't be sure that regular americans will benefit from it :/
[07:03:50] <crutchy> globalization was probably the divestment strategy
[07:04:04] <Ethanol-fueled> **** write those plans but don't have the pulse of the common man. Their plans will fail.
[07:04:16] <crutchy> hope so
[07:06:01] <Ethanol-fueled> If the **** havent yet figured out that they could make more money selling everybody shit on netflix rather than implementing strict regional controls, then they haven't figured out why everybody ***** them.
[07:06:24] <Ethanol-fueled> anti_semitism++
[07:06:24] <Bender> karma - anti_semitism: 1
[07:06:33] <arti> http://coalitionstate.com related
[07:07:25] <Ethanol-fueled> It's time to smoke the WEED, brothers!
[07:08:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Get on your knees...to worship...Sarah Sharp's THICK BUTT.
[07:08:20] <arti> i've got some good russian ones
[07:08:33] <chromas> good russian thick butts?
[07:08:54] <arti> nah those don't really exist
[07:09:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Jewgle's screwing me here. They've disappeared all those pictures of Sarah Sharp's butt down the memory hole.
[07:09:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Try it yourself. If you can get a good pic of that butt, please, post the link here.
[07:09:37] <arti> http://coalitionstate.com
[07:09:42] <poutine> Ethanol-fueled, I hope you dream about gay sex in Arby's bathrooms tonight and retrograde ejaculate your nocturnal emission load into your bladder causing your urethral sphincter to weaken until you eventually can't sneeze without pissing yourself
[07:10:27] <Ethanol-fueled> poutine, You are most likely a man, but I would let you fellate me until I ejaculate in your mouth.
[07:10:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Are you up to the challenge?
[07:10:54] <poutine> Nope
[07:11:25] <poutine> the LORD Jesus Christ has cured me of my homosexual urges
[07:12:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Then make daddy mad and seek out the blacks. They'll turn your asshole into a gravity well.
[07:12:52] <Ethanol-fueled> https://c1.staticflickr.com
[07:12:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Look at that butt.
[07:13:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Jewgle won't let you see it but that is a big, juicy butt.
[07:13:36] <poutine> Ethanol-fueled, I hope the next time you take a dump in wax paper to freeze your turds to later reinsert like dildos, you don't get rid of a sharp edge that will cut you and causes anal fissures.
[07:13:58] * chromas gives Ethanol-fueled http://whatsyourtech.ca
[07:14:04] <chromas> probably already seen it though
[07:14:31] <Ethanol-fueled> poutine, you sacksuck, my shits are liquid. You can drink them like Chocolate milk, like the Kraut you are.
[07:14:46] <chromas> ovaltine
[07:15:01] <Ethanol-fueled> thank you chromas.
[07:15:06] * Ethanol-fueled kneads dick
[07:15:27] <Ethanol-fueled> God, if she only put on some leggings instead of those dumpy dyke-shorts.
[07:15:51] <Ethanol-fueled> her husband is a pissant sorry excuse of a man, probably fucking others.
[07:16:09] <arti> http://coalitionstate.com
[07:16:15] <chromas> problem with safe search off is I can't put "butt" or anything like that in, or I get a bunch of nudez
[07:16:25] <SirFinkus> I was discussing leggings earlier Ethanol-fueled
[07:16:27] <SirFinkus> and socks
[07:16:35] <crutchy> chromas, that's just cos google knows what you likes :p
[07:16:36] <arti> were you doing it inside of cafe 80s?
[07:16:47] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com pick your poison
[07:17:31] <poutine> I would eat A and D
[07:17:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus, Fink - leave it up to you to devolve fetishism down to a science.
[07:17:42] <SirFinkus> A is the correct answer
[07:18:11] <Ethanol-fueled> everything above C is the correct answe.r
[07:18:17] <SirFinkus> I didn't make it
[07:18:53] <SirFinkus> some girt at my school wears spats
[07:18:56] <SirFinkus> it's the greatest thing
[07:20:46] <Ethanol-fueled> There's some shit webcomic where a man (with his woman friend) days, "man, I'd like to thank whomever decided one day that all woman must wear leggings...I don't even have to try anymore!"
[07:21:08] <SirFinkus> the yoga pants are nice too
[07:21:14] <Ethanol-fueled> His woman friend says, "Uh, they're....uh.....comfortable."
[07:22:45] <SirFinkus> skirts and cocks are where it's at though
[07:23:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, you're a homo. Nothing wrong with that. Homos are honest as fuck. I envy the homos, because unlike me they can get laid with no effort.
[07:24:14] <SirFinkus> oh shit, that was quite the fruedian slip
[07:24:21] <SirFinkus> surprised nobody grabbed thtat
[07:24:35] <SirFinkus> I meant to say socks
[07:24:40] <SirFinkus> cocks are just a bonus
[07:25:10] <SirFinkus> but this changes the debate, what's sexier on men?
[07:25:39] <SirFinkus> I'd say crew socks because men typically have more muscle definition in their legs, which should be showed off
[07:26:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Depends on the legs, I guess.
[07:26:14] <SirFinkus> true, and the outfit
[07:26:37] <SirFinkus> if they're going full fem the can probably pull off the thigh highs and the skirt
[07:26:46] <SirFinkus> *they
[07:26:51] <Ethanol-fueled> If men have fat legs, then partial-length socks. If they can pass for a woman, then full-length tights.
[07:27:07] <SirFinkus> skirts are a convenient way to hide a penis
[07:28:07] <Ethanol-fueled> You want to let a man know you have a penis before he finds out.
[07:28:28] <SirFinkus> true, but cross dressing is a thing
[07:28:37] <SirFinkus> there are guides on achieving a proper tuck
[07:28:46] <SirFinkus> which you don't really need to worry about with a skirt
[07:28:52] <Ethanol-fueled> fink, cross-dressing convincingly can have bad results.
[07:29:32] <Ethanol-fueled> there was a case here where an underage cross-dresser was killed by the men "she" fucked hours earlier because they didn't know.
[07:29:47] <SirFinkus> of course, I'm not saying it's a good idea to put on a skirt and start hitting the bars up, unless they're gay ones that cater to that shit
[07:30:34] <SirFinkus> or in the bedroom of course
[07:30:47] <SirFinkus> internet too
[07:30:59] <crutchy> http://venturebeat.com
[07:31:00] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03Lead developer quits Bitcoin saying it 'has failed' | VentureBeat | Commerce | by Reuters
[07:31:09] <Ethanol-fueled> In Seattle is's probably the norm.
[07:31:29] <Ethanol-fueled> But in San Diego you'll get killed, homeboy!
[07:31:45] <SirFinkus> twinks seem to be the most popular in seattle
[07:31:50] <SirFinkus> or maybe just the most obvious
[07:40:03] <SirFinkus> yay, my ubuntu install finished
[07:40:22] <SirFinkus> took forever
[07:40:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Welcome to the machine, Hastings.
[07:41:15] <SirFinkus> I'm curious if btfs will work better under ubuntu
[07:43:34] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[07:43:35] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03Huun-Huur-Tu - Live - YouTube
[07:53:38] <chromas> "You want to let a man know you have a penis before he finds out."
[07:53:42] <chromas> Not if you trollin'
[07:54:18] <chromas> <cough>brianna wu</cough>
[07:54:41] <Ethanol-fueled> brianna wu can eat a dick.
[07:54:48] <chromas> He does
[07:54:54] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[07:54:55] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03Final Fantasy VI - Goddess Boss 49 - YouTube
[07:55:02] <chromas> 'cause he's married to another dude
[07:59:00] <SirFinkus> now I get to update like 400 packages
[07:59:07] * SirFinkus sighs
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[08:17:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Aircraft Now So Automated Pilots Have Forgotten How to Fly - http://sylnt.us - what's-this-button-do?
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[08:58:24] <crutchy> from the el-reg-thinks-pilots-jump-straight-into-airliners dept. :/
[08:58:34] <crutchy> what a fkin rediculous story
[09:00:15] <crutchy> not that it shouldn't have been published. i like a flamebait article as much as the next troll :p
[09:00:46] <SirFinkus> fucking samba
[09:01:49] <chromas> Does apple use samba?
[09:02:00] <chromas> I thought they had appletalk
[09:02:22] <crutchy> or that program that devices talk to that i can't think the name of
[09:02:24] <SirFinkus> yes
[09:02:27] * chromas may be a bit behind the times in apple knowledge
[09:02:31] <SirFinkus> well, not appletalk
[09:02:37] <SirFinkus> nfs or whatever the fuck
[09:02:57] <crutchy> nfs is ok for linux
[09:03:23] <crutchy> is it even possible to use nfs with windows anymore?
[09:03:32] * SirFinkus shrugs
[09:03:50] <chromas> You should be able to use anything you can find a driver for
[09:03:51] <crutchy> you gotta get like windows server ultimate extremely expensive mega edition or some shit
[09:19:42] <SirFinkus> fucking pos
[09:19:51] <SirFinkus> maybe I'm too tired
[09:20:02] <SirFinkus> CONNECT YOU FUCK
[09:30:02] <crutchy> http://www.reuters.com
[09:30:03] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03Big investors see lousy U.S. environment but no 2008-style collapse| Reuters
[09:31:13] <crutchy> you know its bad when the idiots who were so adamant about the US recovery start having doubts
[09:33:14] <SirFinkus> HOLY FUCKING SHIT
[09:33:24] <SirFinkus> I completely forgot about smbpasswd
[09:33:29] <SirFinkus> I feel like a retard now
[09:33:43] <crutchy> yes. what retard uses passwords for samba :p
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[09:35:22] <crutchy> that's like paying armed guards to watch over your 1986 toyota corolla
[09:36:41] <SirFinkus> god dammi
[09:36:48] <SirFinkus> now fuse is being "clever"
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[09:39:53] <SirFinkus> something is being clever, and I don't like it
[09:41:28] <crutchy> when software gets clever, i get scared
[09:42:18] <SirFinkus> whenever I use fuse, the folder I use to mount disappears from my samba share
[09:42:25] <SirFinkus> probably a security thing or something
[09:45:44] <SirFinkus> guess I need to use a -oallow_other mount option
[09:48:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Micromotor Helps Propel Sperm for Assisted Fertilization - http://sylnt.us - is-it-a-v8?
[09:50:47] <chromas> so even sperm use extensions
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[11:50:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Trypanosome Parasites Communicate With Each Other to Cause Sleeping Sickness - http://sylnt.us - don't-kill-the-host-with-the-treatment
[13:21:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bitcoin Developer Mike Hearn: The Bitcoin Experiment Failed - http://sylnt.us - failure-is-always-an-option
[14:50:43] <Gravis> https://soylentnews.org <-- bad title
[14:50:44] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03SN article: Aircraft Now So Automated Pilots Have Forgotten How to Fly 04(21 comments)
[14:51:00] <Gravis> it should be "Aircraft Are Now So Automated Pilots Have Forgotten How to Fly"
[14:51:48] <Gravis> cmn32480: i'm very disappointed in you.
[15:22:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The War Against Noisy Leaf Blowers - http://sylnt.us - put-in-earplugs-ya-hippie
[16:37:46] <Runaway1956> baked-in-like-nuts-in-banana-bread?
[16:54:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ask Soylent: Are There Any Linux LiveCDs Which Include the Proprietary NVIDIA Driver? - http://sylnt.us - baked-in-like-nuts-in-banana-bread
[17:00:16] <cmn32480> gravis - join the club
[17:00:54] <Gravis> cmn32480: see... much worse response and much less title changing
[17:01:51] <cmn32480> I didn't say you weren't right. You are. And I just changed it
[17:06:37] <chromas> The "Are" makes it seem less headline-y.
[17:06:46] <chromas> Headlines: Broken English Appropriate, Experts Agree
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[17:07:14] <cmn32480> see chromas?
[17:07:26] <cmn32480> you made Azreal bink in and out
[17:07:47] * chromas gets shifty-eyed
[17:08:01] <chromas> They're onto me
[17:08:08] <chromas> Oh shit, I think they heard that
[17:08:29] <chromas> Wait, is thinking the one where I don't move my mouth?
[17:08:44] <cmn32480> correct
[17:24:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Aircraft Are Now So Automated Pilots Have Forgotten How to Fly - http://sylnt.us - what's-this-button-do?
[17:52:10] <nick> have to say, the "The War Against Noisy Leaf Blowers" headline irks me far more than the pilot headline not being subjectively correct
[17:55:21] <chromas> Yeah; should be The War on Sound
[17:56:52] <nick> i guess you have to do something for those clicks
[17:57:22] <nick> "new leaf-blowers more efficient and make less noise than the one you bought in 96" is not the most attention grabbing headline
[17:57:25] <chromas> at least one of those links seems like an ad
[17:58:09] <nick> the whole thing seems like an ad, if only for "noise free america!
[17:58:13] <nick> Whatever that is supposed ot be
[17:58:14] <chromas> “When I try to compose or write a letter, there is no way for me to listen to my inner voice, and the leaf blower blanks out all the harmonic combinations,” Small said at the time.
[17:58:34] <chromas> So uh, shut the window for 20 minutes while the guy goes by
[17:58:50] <chromas> How do they compare to lawn mowers?
[17:59:09] <cmn32480> my lawnmower is powered by the jet engine off a Chinook helicopter
[17:59:14] <cmn32480> so I don't know
[17:59:45] <chromas> The War Against Noisy Lawnmowers: Our shiny new mower only has the jet engine from a racecar!
[17:59:59] <nick> i got the good folks at VW to do the testing on mine, they say it's completely silent and uses 10ml of fuel an hour
[18:01:46] <chromas> Shame on you guys for not using solar- or nucle–nucular-powered yard appliances!
[18:01:58] <nick> of course my fuel bills and neighbours disagree, but i have a bit of paper that proves all that wrong.
[18:02:28] <chromas> Did your mower graduate with a BS?
[18:02:35] <cmn32480> https://www.youtube.com
[18:02:35] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03"More Power" - Jet engine on a lawnmower - YouTube
[18:03:24] <nick> just reminded me of Top Gears V8 powered food blender
[18:03:55] <chromas> Kitchen appliances using javascript?!
[18:04:32] <nick> well, the smart appliances have to be using something
[18:04:47] <nick> https://www.youtube.com
[18:04:49] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03top gear V8 blender and chair - YouTube
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[18:43:11] * SirFinkus is listening to Oasis — She's Electric, from the album (What's The Story) Morning Glory? [Song]
[18:43:14] <SirFinkus> morning folks
[18:55:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Intel PCs to Require Windows 10 - http://sylnt.us - time-to-switch-to-a-linux-hypervisor
[19:01:08] <chromas> from the yuck dept
[19:01:42] * chromas goes to the store and applies Mr Yuk stickers to Win 10 PCs
[19:05:43] <cmn32480> my question is more will they support linux?
[19:06:31] <cmn32480> and it sounds like you can run it, but if yo call for support you are SOL.
[19:07:56] <chromas> Most non-desktops don't run windows; I don't think that requirement will work out
[19:08:25] <cmn32480> calling a spade a spade... most ships don't go into servers
[19:08:29] <chromas> ((desk|lap)tops)
[19:08:33] <cmn32480> most go inot the commodity desktop
[19:08:36] <chromas> racis
[19:09:23] <cmn32480> i think it more a fuck-you-mr-customer on the wintel part
[19:09:34] <chromas> There's also nano-PCs, set-top-boxes, modems, routers, tablets and all kinds of shit that don't use winders
[19:09:34] <cmn32480> but from TFA AMD is in on it too
[19:10:18] <cmn32480> and so was one other chip maker
[19:10:25] <chromas> Plus, Intel's the only one with open sauce offical graphics drivers for Linux; surely they wouldn't abandon that
[19:10:44] <cmn32480> Going forward, as new silicon generations are introduced, they will require the latest Windows platform at that time for support... Windows 10 will be the only supported Windows platform on Intel's upcoming "Kaby Lake" silicon, Qualcomm's upcoming "8996" silicon, and AMD's upcoming "Bristol Ridge" silicon.
[19:11:13] <chromas> Oh, that's not how I was reading the headline I guess
[19:11:15] <cmn32480> "only supported WINDOWS platform"
[19:11:22] <chromas> #smake chromas
[19:11:22] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a partridge in a pear tree
[19:11:28] <cmn32480> lol
[19:11:44] <cmn32480> Qualcomm
[19:11:49] <cmn32480> the third chipmaker
[19:11:51] <chromas> ew
[19:12:13] <chromas> #smake Qualcomm
[19:12:13] * MrPlow smakes Qualcomm upside the head with a 988
[19:12:28] <cmn32480> this is the kind of shit that will drive the Linux desktop, providing that the linux world can get their shit together
[19:12:40] <chromas> I wish they would
[19:12:43] <cmn32480> me too
[19:12:46] <nick> also providing people can still buy desktops
[19:12:57] <chromas> Also, we should all switch to Alpha or POWER PC or something
[19:13:01] <cmn32480> touche
[19:13:19] <nick> if no one is willing to make the hardware, which i don't think they are, the 'tradtional' pc market is going to be dead soon enough
[19:13:21] <cmn32480> this all goes back to making it all a SAAS model
[19:13:40] <nick> how many people have moved from desktops to macbooks or tablets in recent years?
[19:13:53] <cmn32480> mac is same hardware
[19:14:12] <nick> an expensive version of the same hardware, for now
[19:14:12] <chromas> There's still a demand for workstations and stuff
[19:14:15] <nick> yeah
[19:14:15] <cmn32480> just as proprietary as Windows when it comes to the drivers and such
[19:14:22] <nick> workstations wont go away
[19:14:28] <nick> but it's going to be a professional tool
[19:14:35] <nick> not a consumer desktop
[19:14:55] <chromas> Maybe we'll lose the sub-$200 computers, but they suck anyhow
[19:14:56] <cmn32480> for 90% of the consumer world, a tablet is far more computing power than they need
[19:15:06] <nick> indeed
[19:15:14] <arti> you need several gpus to use twitter
[19:15:20] <nick> i think we'll lose the sub $1000 computers, personally
[19:15:23] <cmn32480> 3 or four at least
[19:15:24] <arti> butthurt mining
[19:15:44] <cmn32480> not that high
[19:15:44] <nick> and certainly the ability to build a reasonable spec system of your own for sub500
[19:15:54] <cmn32480> probably anythgin under about $700
[19:16:01] <arti> $700 is decent
[19:16:07] <cmn32480> nick - that is already gone
[19:16:18] <cmn32480> or almost so
[19:16:27] <nick> i am talking about entry level consumer stuff
[19:16:32] <cmn32480> decent CPU and GPU cost you $500
[19:16:33] <arti> "as you can see it posts"
[19:16:39] <nick> not gaming or vaguely high end
[19:16:40] <chromas> Entry-level consumers want appliances
[19:16:46] <nick> for the people who used outlook and excel
[19:16:51] <arti> chromas: you mean gmail?
[19:16:53] <chromas> Nano PC or a tablet or something
[19:17:05] <chromas> yahoo or aol mail, mang
[19:17:13] <chromas> sí
[19:17:15] <arti> what's ur aim
[19:17:17] <arti> a/s/l
[19:17:24] <chromas> 6
[19:17:44] <arti> 13/apacheattackhelicopter/ca
[19:17:53] <cmn32480> ok... back to de-christmas-ifying the house
[19:18:03] <chromas> don't do that
[19:18:09] <arti> just grab one end of the lights and tug
[19:18:09] <chromas> just make it more christmassy every year
[19:18:18] <arti> like a christmas lasagne
[19:18:22] <cmn32480> keep in mind my 7 year old is reading over my shoulder
[19:18:30] <arti> oh.
[19:18:39] <cmn32480> ok
[19:18:42] <arti> JET FUEL CANT MELT STEEL BEAMS.
[19:18:59] <chromas> Slash isn't real!
[19:19:00] <cmn32480> we are out. gotta get the rest of the stuff packed and back in the basement
[19:19:06] <arti> the surgeon general is a fool!
[19:19:10] <arti> lung cancer is a myth!
[19:19:18] * chromas killed the surgeon
[19:19:20] <cmn32480> Slash is a FABULOUS bass player
[19:19:52] <cmn32480> and he (and his hair) are quite real
[19:19:57] <arti> fighting crime and living off of pizza is a viable career path
[19:20:13] <cmn32480> he's not a teenage mutant ninja turtle
[19:20:18] <arti> yet
[19:20:20] <chromas> not yet
[19:20:32] <arti> he may still answer the call of the ooze
[19:20:41] <arti> btw splinter says hi
[19:20:47] <arti> HAI
[19:20:50] <cmn32480> I'll let him know
[19:21:08] <cmn32480> back later... wife is calling for me to get this finished
[19:21:16] <arti> set mode +m :D
[19:21:42] <chromas> Ooh, I just noticed the new servicebot nick
[19:21:51] <arti> hypatia
[19:21:51] <chromas> soyvice
[19:22:00] <arti> goyvice
[19:23:18] <chromas> If they're breaking compatibility with older wondows, they should also nuke 16-/32-bit modes from the CPUs
[19:25:14] <arti> doesn't it concern things like advanced power features vs regular instructions?
[19:29:23] <chromas> Well, at least 16-bit mode. Waste of silicon
[19:29:39] <arti> but my windows 3.1 software
[19:29:44] <arti> how will i run vb3
[19:29:59] <chromas> Like old Windows games, you'd do it on Linux
[19:31:42] <chromas> What Linux really needs is a competing systemd. Two projects trying to take over the system.
[19:32:09] <arti> enceptiond
[19:32:24] <arti> inceptiond :|
[19:32:36] <SirFinkus> conceptiond
[19:32:44] <arti> well done
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[19:47:16] <Gravis> chromas: that's going to be a complex task.
[19:48:09] <chromas> Get rid of unused modes; update bootloaders
[19:48:38] <Gravis> chromas: it'll be a few years before there is enough to evict systemd wholesale
[19:49:29] <Gravis> chromas: and yes, we need to update grub2 to be more friendly
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[19:49:55] <chromas> Oh, I thought you meant old CPU modes
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[19:51:23] <Gravis> we need a better system for building initramfs and uefi binaries
[19:52:17] <chromas> uefi is the systemd of pc firmware
[19:53:07] <Gravis> chromas: it has it's uses
[19:53:40] <chromas> like systemd
[19:53:54] <chromas> but it's unnecessarily complicated
[19:54:17] <Gravis> like systemd
[19:54:26] <chromas> Right; that's why I made the comparison
[19:56:03] <Gravis> chromas: seems like shoving grub into the uefi boot system isn't a bad idea
[19:56:12] <Gravis> that would simplify matters
[19:56:21] <chromas> well we had gummiboot for uefi
[19:56:24] <chromas> but now it's part of systemd
[19:56:32] <Gravis> lulz
[19:57:15] * chromas is thankful to still have bios firmware
[19:58:32] <Gravis> chromas: the good news is that uefi is an x86 only thing
[19:59:22] <chromas> Will this be the year of Arm on the desktop? ;)
[19:59:45] <Gravis> chromas: nope but it might be the year of the ARM server
[20:00:22] <Gravis> i sure would like to snag one of those machines
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[20:57:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Latest SpaceX Rocket Launches Successfully, But Drone Ship Landing Fails - http://sylnt.us - bezos-cackle
[21:05:14] <Gravis> takyon: that link to cnn money is terrible! please update the story with this one: http://gizmodo.com
[21:05:15] <HL3-Confirmed> ^ 03SpaceX's Rocket Didn't Quite Stick Its Barge Landing, But the Satellite is Good!
[21:08:19] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:08:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2088
[21:08:44] <crutchy> hows it goin Gravis
[21:09:12] <crutchy> damn i gotta go to workipoos soon :(
[21:09:21] <crutchy> like the good wage slave that i am
[21:09:35] <crutchy> *salary slave :p
[21:14:01] <arti> welcome master crutchy
[21:15:14] <crutchy> g'day arti
[21:15:20] <crutchy> i'll catch yas later
[21:15:27] <crutchy> ~gday #soylent
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