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[00:33:44] <SpallsHurgenson> Hickory dickery dock.
[00:34:59] <chromas> Turn back he Alzheimer's cock
[00:37:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I forget how it goes but it ends with me dumping the ***** off on the next block.
[00:39:18] <SpallsHurgenson> if that means nothing to you, then you probably weren't born yet in the 80s.
[00:46:30] <cmn32480> go submit a story or sumthin'
[00:46:50] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.infoworld.com
[00:46:51] <privilege> ^ 03Banishing 'Get Windows 10' nagware isn't as easy as you think | InfoWorld
[00:47:08] <SpallsHurgenson> http://boingboing.net
[00:47:09] <privilege> ^ 03Breaking the DRM on the 1982 Apple ][+ port of Burger Time / Boing Boing
[00:47:45] <SpallsHurgenson> now gimme a cookie!
[00:58:42] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:58:43] <privilege> ^ 03Fortinet tries to explain weird SSH 'backdoor' discovered in firewalls • The Register
[00:59:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Top Executives Leave IBM as Ginni Rometty's Reorg Unfolds - http://sylnt.us - big-blue's-balls-are-in-the-air
[00:59:04] <SpallsHurgenson> now I get a bonus cookie!
[01:00:51] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:00:52] <privilege> ^ 03One Ring to pwn them all: IoT doorbell can reveal your Wi-Fi key • The Register
[01:01:01] <SpallsHurgenson> super secret extra bonus cookie!
[01:18:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> re: theregister.co.uk link: Internet of Shit, as usual.
[01:27:42] <SpallsHurgenson> does that mean I don't get a cookie after all?
[01:35:49] <SpallsHurgenson> god, the movie "San Andreas" is one of the stupidest I've seen in a while... even for one starring the Rock
[01:36:01] <takyon> didn't Microsoft publish instructions on how to kill GWX
[01:36:07] <takyon> are they saying those don't work
[01:36:14] <SpallsHurgenson> uninstall kb3035583
[01:36:54] <SpallsHurgenson> that's pretty much the best way (although they do try to slip it back in while youre not looking :)
[01:36:55] <takyon> their solution actually involved editing the registry
[01:38:18] <SpallsHurgenson> kb3035583 installs gwx.exe. the registry setting supposedly tells it not to install win10.
[01:38:35] <SpallsHurgenson> but if you don't have gwx.exe installed at all, the registry setting is sort of redundant :)
[01:39:25] <SpallsHurgenson> of course, seeing as how microsoft keeps trying to reinstall kb3035583 if you're not careful, the registry setting isn't a bad idea...
[01:39:44] <SpallsHurgenson> ... except now apparently ms is purpisefully reversing the registry setting
[01:39:59] <takyon> hang on
[01:42:00] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:42:01] <privilege> ^ 03Confirmed: How to stop Windows 10 forcing itself onto PCs – your essential guide • The Register
[01:42:10] <takyon> https://support.microsoft.com
[01:42:10] <privilege> ^ 03.ng-hide .error-content { display: none; text-align: center; font-family: 'Segoe UI'; padding-bottom: 12px; } .error-content h2 { margin-top: 8px; margin-bottom: 24px; color: black; } if (!window.angular) { document.onreadystatechange = function () { if (document.readyState == "complete") { document.getElementById('e...
[01:42:34] <takyon> typical
[01:42:41] <takyon> better check that privilege
[01:45:36] <SpallsHurgenson> (just when I think this movie can't get stupider...)
[01:45:50] * AndyTheAbsurd checks in pants, finds penis intact, assumes his privelege is also intact.
[01:46:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> < privilege> ^ Confirmed: How to stop Windows 10 forcing itself onto PCs – your essential guide • The Register
[01:46:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> The entirety of that article should consist of "Don't use operating systems from Microsoft"
[01:49:30] <SpallsHurgenson> MS certainly is burning a lot of people's trust by being so pushy with Win10 (and they weren't considered that trustworthy to begin with, although they had been moving in the right direction until recently)
[01:50:24] <chromas> Maybe malware tools could be used to blacklist gwx.exe from running
[01:50:37] <chromas> 'til they change the name
[01:50:45] <SpallsHurgenson> just use gwxkill
[01:52:10] <Gravis> i find it odd that this comment didn't get modded up at all because it seem on target: https://soylentnews.org i mean, it's better than other posts i've written that people mod up that just seem obvious: https://soylentnews.org
[01:52:11] <privilege> ^ 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:2)
[01:52:11] <privilege> ^ 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:5, Insightful)
[01:52:36] <Gravis> such fickle modders
[01:53:06] <Gravis> SpallsHurgenson: yeah, there is no getting out of the Microsoft spy program
[01:59:23] <SpallsHurgenson> (and the movie just got even stupider... its past the stupidity event horizon now)
[01:59:54] * cmn32480 gives SpallsHurgenson 2 cookies
[02:00:17] <SpallsHurgenson> whoa! cooooooooooookkkkiiiiiiiiiesssssssss!
[02:00:33] <SpallsHurgenson> has anybody ever been this rich in cookies before? I think not!
[02:01:46] * cmn32480 gives SpallsHurgenson a Girl Scout cookie (made with real Girl Scouts)
[02:03:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> what movie you watching, Spalls?
[02:03:21] <SpallsHurgenson> "San Andreas", starring the Rock! :)
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[02:04:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think I watched that once...when I was 17 or 18...even on teenage-me, it didn't leave a very good impression.
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[02:05:23] <SpallsHurgenson> well, unless you are 17 or 18 now... it came out earlier this year
[02:05:50] <chromas> guy with the time machine found
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[02:06:11] <SpallsHurgenson> Who?
[02:06:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> brain fart
[02:06:32] <cmn32480> I'm about to have a real one...
[02:06:33] * AndyTheAbsurd 's brain decide "The Rock" was the title of the movie you were watching
[02:06:55] <SpallsHurgenson> well, "The Rock" was set in San Francisco...
[02:07:29] <cmn32480> and starred Sean Connery
[02:07:33] * cmn32480 swoons
[02:09:46] <SpallsHurgenson> I think cmn32480 is going to need a few minutes alone
[02:10:16] <cmn32480> dude... he's 85... and still looks awesome...
[02:10:28] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm not being judgmental.
[02:10:55] <SpallsHurgenson> although I won't be shaking your hand when you come back :)
[02:13:18] <SpallsHurgenson> at least not until I see you thoroughly wash them first
[02:13:54] * cmn32480 takes a shower w/ lotsa soap
[02:14:01] <chromas> "This is totally liquid soap on my hand"
[02:14:04] * cmn32480 extends hand to SpallsHurgenson
[02:15:20] <SpallsHurgenson> erm... ummm... say, don't you have some puns to make?
[02:17:08] <cmn32480> nah
[02:17:23] <cmn32480> tired and a bit beat up feeling after the comments on that Iran story
[02:17:38] <cmn32480> you know the Iran story that I ran
[02:17:41] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, well, how 'bout those <insert name of local sports franchise here>?
[02:18:00] * SpallsHurgenson has no idea what cmn32480 is talking about
[02:18:20] <cmn32480> but I can only get away with those stories 'cuz Iraq
[02:18:41] <cmn32480> Kuwait just a minute, whatdayamean you don't know what I'm talking about?
[02:19:09] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't actually read soylent :)
[02:19:11] <cmn32480> Yemen to say that you don't read the stories on the site and only hang out in IRC?
[02:19:21] <SpallsHurgenson> :)
[02:19:25] <cmn32480> I feel like Egypt me!
[02:20:07] <cmn32480> I do all this russian around and get no love
[02:20:22] <chromas> Israel funny in here
[02:20:37] <cmn32480> I thought the article was Germain to the article
[02:20:54] <cmn32480> now I feel like a freaking Turkey
[02:21:04] * SpallsHurgenson mostly frequents the green site (better articles and comments :)
[02:21:18] <fliptop> SirFinkus: got a couple of pics for ya
[02:21:24] <fliptop> 20160112_004.jpg
[02:21:24] <SirFinkus> oh?
[02:21:32] <fliptop> http://www.peacecomputers.com
[02:21:34] <fliptop> sorry
[02:21:40] <fliptop> http://www.peacecomputers.com
[02:21:44] <SirFinkus> heh, that looks fun
[02:21:50] <fliptop> that was coming down off the hill this morning, it took an hour
[02:22:07] <SirFinkus> is that gravel?
[02:22:09] <SpallsHurgenson> wow... that must've been a huge cocaine explosion
[02:22:09] <cmn32480> India-ther news... fliptop drove in snow
[02:22:18] <fliptop> no, it's ice on asphalt
[02:22:28] <SirFinkus> oh man
[02:22:35] <fliptop> it was sketchy for sure
[02:22:39] <SpallsHurgenson> ice? you mean the stuff you put in your drink?
[02:22:50] <fliptop> someone got sideways at the bottom and the sheriff had the road closed for a while
[02:22:54] <cmn32480> keeps yer Scoth cold
[02:22:58] <SirFinkus> but I get everybody was on the same page as far as the amount of caution it required
[02:23:01] <SpallsHurgenson> ~weather
[02:23:02] <exec> 10Bangkok, Thailand - currently 81°F / 27°C, mostly sunny, wind E at 6 mph, humidity 74% - Wednesday showers (77°F:92°F / 25°C:33°C), Thursday partly cloudy (77°F:90°F / 25°C:32°C), Friday partly cloudy (78°F:90°F / 26°C:32°C), Saturday scattered showers (79°F:90°F / 26°C:32°C)
[02:23:11] <SirFinkus> ~weather
[02:23:12] <fliptop> pretty much
[02:23:13] <exec> 10Olympia, WA, USA - currently 45°F / 7°C, light rain showers, wind N at 3 mph, humidity 96% - Tuesday rain (42°F:45°F / 6°C:7°C), Wednesday showers (37°F:47°F / 3°C:8°C), Thursday rain (39°F:43°F / 4°C:6°C), Friday showers (42°F:47°F / 6°C:8°C)
[02:23:14] <cmn32480> ~weather
[02:23:15] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 34°F / 1°C, cloudy, wind W at 21 mph, humidity 55% - Tuesday cloudy (22°F:44°F / -6°C:7°C), Wednesday sunny (23°F:29°F / -5°C:-2°C), Thursday partly cloudy (32°F:46°F / 0°C:8°C), Friday scattered showers (38°F:49°F / 3°C:9°C)
[02:23:25] <fliptop> the guy who got sideways was trying to come up the hill
[02:23:41] <cmn32480> obviously that was a poor choice
[02:23:48] <SirFinkus> that's always scarier, you've got to manage your momentum just right
[02:24:08] <fliptop> it woulda helped if he'd had snow tires and 4x4 instead of all-season and FWD
[02:24:30] <SirFinkus> would have helped if he was in a tank too
[02:24:35] <fliptop> heh
[02:24:51] <SpallsHurgenson> driving is always better if you are in a tank
[02:25:02] <cmn32480> I can never keep track
[02:25:06] <SirFinkus> I walked 6 miles in the pouring rain today, that's the extent of my transportation excitement
[02:25:25] <cmn32480> it drizzled on my car
[02:25:34] <SirFinkus> oh, I drove another 12 miles in the rain
[02:25:43] <SirFinkus> it was a pretty good rainstorm though
[02:25:51] <cmn32480> it stopped raiing before I got in my car after work
[02:26:19] <SirFinkus> people on the freeway here were slowed down to about 35, which is pretty slow considering how used to rain we all are
[02:26:51] <fliptop> and, if mrcoolbp is around, i got the swag today. i'm gonna take a few pics of it now...
[02:27:16] * cmn32480 forgot to look at the tracking
[02:27:35] <chromas> we need unboxing vidyas
[02:27:52] <chromas> and does it blend?
[02:28:20] <cmn32480> booooo
[02:28:26] <cmn32480> mine won't be here 'till Friday
[02:28:39] <cmn32480> odd, since I ordered at the same time as you
[02:28:46] <cmn32480> and live in the same general direction
[02:29:14] <cmn32480> unboxing videos? two guys dancing around a square facing away from each other?
[02:29:16] <cmn32480> how dull
[02:30:48] <chromas> why did it take so long for me to get that?
[02:30:59] <chromas> #smake chromas
[02:30:59] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with ð©
[02:31:18] <chromas> that doesn't feel right
[02:32:11] <SpallsHurgenson> ow, a copyrighted eth; that's gotta be painful.
[02:33:07] <cmn32480> #smake chromas
[02:33:07] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with white privilege
[02:33:14] <cmn32480> better?
[02:33:51] <SpallsHurgenson> I got smacked with a trademarked aesc once; it left a right nasty scar
[02:34:29] <cmn32480> that explains why you can't wear pants
[02:35:22] <fliptop> hoodie swag pic:
[02:35:25] <fliptop> http://www.peacecomputers.com
[02:35:31] <fliptop> polo:
[02:35:34] <fliptop> http://www.peacecomputers.com
[02:35:48] <fliptop> the url is different
[02:35:56] <cmn32480> that stitched or silk screened?
[02:36:18] <fliptop> it's not stitched
[02:36:31] <cmn32480> silkscreened
[02:36:33] <cmn32480> ok
[02:36:39] <cmn32480> thanks
[02:36:46] <fliptop> the candy bar looks short or something
[02:36:57] <SpallsHurgenson> alright, time for some kung-fu fighting
[02:37:03] <cmn32480> HI YA!
[02:37:08] <SpallsHurgenson> I expect my kicks will be fast as lightning
[02:37:14] <SpallsHurgenson> it may be a little bit frightening
[02:37:22] <cmn32480> it'll be just a little bit frightening
[02:37:29] <cmn32480> you'll fight wiht expert timing
[02:37:31] <SpallsHurgenson> ninjad :)
[02:37:39] * SpallsHurgenson fires up Jade Empire
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[02:52:32] <cmn32480> tea++
[02:52:32] <Bender> karma - tea: 524
[02:57:42] <SpallsHurgenson> t++
[02:57:42] <Bender> karma - t: 2
[02:57:56] <cmn32480> that was a good movie
[03:00:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Expedition Probes Undersea Magma System - http://sylnt.us - what-happens-if-we-get-a-clog
[03:02:01] <takyon> gonna submit this: http://www.theregister.co.uk
[03:02:02] <privilege> ^ 03Kentucky spies stricken: Ban on web snaps of horror accidents mulled • The Register
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[03:04:02] <cmn32480> apparently I quit
[03:04:32] <takyon> unboxing videos can be good
[03:05:20] <chromas> Is that like two women giving each other the silent treatment?
[03:05:26] <takyon> https://www.youtube.com
[03:05:28] <privilege> ^ 03TOSSING TRASH INTO GRAND CANYON || 1Up Box [December 2015] - YouTube
[03:05:48] <cmn32480> some days I wish I could get the silent treatment
[03:05:51] <chromas> Two wives enter, cross their arms and turn away from each other. Only on pay-per-view!
[03:06:21] <cmn32480> guess that is only a sport in Utah.
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[03:07:04] <chromas> I like that he's got a good mic but doesn't shove it in his face like I see on youtube (and radio shows) a lot
[03:07:25] <takyon> yes that's good
[03:10:09] <takyon> if you like that watch some of the kickstarter crap vids
[03:19:06] <SirFinkus> uhng, this assignment, I have to explain how cultural relativism and moral relativism aren't related, but morals are a subset of culture
[03:19:10] <SirFinkus> according to the damn textbook
[03:19:23] <SirFinkus> this may require some doublethink
[03:20:36] <SirFinkus> I might just risk writing on the contradictions in the prompt
[03:20:49] <SirFinkus> and make my case for the opposit
[03:21:01] <SirFinkus> I'm sure I'll do well on that assignment
[03:21:02] <chromas> with many, many footnotes
[03:21:43] <SirFinkus> I'd be fine if they just said they were related
[03:22:22] <SirFinkus> "moral relativism" is touted around as bad, but I think it's a damn good thing that our morals aren't set it stone
[03:22:32] <SirFinkus> if they were, we'd still have slavery and human sacrifice
[03:22:41] <chromas> oh wait a minute, if morals are a subset of culture, then christians are appropriating jewish culture
[03:22:55] <cmn32480> duh?
[03:22:56] <chromas> with 3/17 commandments
[03:24:03] <SirFinkus> I'm getting really fucking annoyed with this class
[03:24:11] <cmn32480> sure sounds like it
[03:24:27] <cmn32480> parrot back what the teacher wants to hear and move on
[03:24:30] <SirFinkus> it's turning into "explain why this viewpoint is right, and this one is wrong"
[03:24:47] <cmn32480> so... it is taught by a Democrat?
[03:24:54] <SirFinkus> I'm learning about anthropology, rather than anthropology
[03:25:08] <SirFinkus> probably, I wouldn't put it down to anything partisan though
[03:25:18] <SirFinkus> I suspect that she's just a bad teacher
[03:25:29] <cmn32480> I had a lot of those in college
[03:25:40] <cmn32480> explains why I flunked out after my firt junior year
[03:26:05] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[03:26:23] <SirFinkus> either I'm not understanding the curriculum (which is probably her fault) or the curriculum is just all bullshit
[03:26:41] <SirFinkus> may sound cocky, but I've never had trouble with any of my classes on this level before
[03:27:35] <SirFinkus> I prodded her on the "culture is arbitrary" point and came away more confused about her position than when I came in
[03:27:56] <cmn32480> fastest way around it it to parrot what she wants to hear and move on
[03:28:01] <cmn32480> I hated classes like that
[03:28:13] <cmn32480> but it was the only way to make the pain stop
[03:28:39] <SirFinkus> I object to that, since that's an implicit endorsement of her way of thinking
[03:28:49] <cmn32480> i agree
[03:28:50] <SirFinkus> I'd rather be a martyr
[03:29:04] <cmn32480> I'd rather not get a shitty grade in the class
[03:29:21] <cmn32480> seeing as tehy say I have to take it
[03:29:27] <cmn32480> and I know it is bullshit
[03:29:34] <chromas> just go with it and then write a tumblr post about it later :D
[03:29:37] <cmn32480> give them what they want and move on
[03:29:47] <SirFinkus> I didn't strictly have to take it, I was interested in it
[03:29:53] <cmn32480> complete w/ naked pictures like the rest of tumblr
[03:30:02] <cmn32480> then it serves you right
[03:30:07] <SirFinkus> if you want naked pictures of me cmn32480, all you have to do is ask
[03:30:25] <cmn32480> I didn't say I wanted them of you.
[03:30:29] <cmn32480> just naked pictures
[03:30:52] <SirFinkus> how so? I was hoping I'd learn about the development of languages and customs from around the world
[03:31:05] <SirFinkus> instead I learn the field is useless because it's all "arbitrary"
[03:31:20] <cmn32480> so you learned somethign.
[03:31:22] <SirFinkus> which is utter bullshit if you think about it for more than 5 seconds
[03:31:27] <fliptop> http://i303.photobucket.com
[03:31:29] <cmn32480> like any soft science
[03:31:43] <SirFinkus> it shouldn't be a soft science
[03:31:45] <SpallsHurgenson> I learned something once. it hurt
[03:31:49] <SirFinkus> it's fucking history
[03:32:09] <chromas> is that EF in the pic?
[03:32:14] <cmn32480> prolly
[03:32:22] <chromas> "Please, no jokes"
[03:32:25] <SirFinkus> no, he's browner and has a nicer ass
[03:33:00] <cmn32480> SirFinkus - it is history, but it is not history that can be related to any significant fact. Anthropology is the study of cultural history, I I remember right
[03:33:14] <cmn32480> and culture is opinionated as fuck
[03:33:22] <cmn32480> take current culture
[03:33:37] <cmn32480> Black Lives Matter is a cultural phenomenon to some
[03:33:38] <fliptop> chromas: i don't think that guys is joking
[03:33:54] <cmn32480> to me, page 2 news at best
[03:34:04] <chromas> the sign will only encourage more jokes
[03:34:32] <SirFinkus> it's a cultural phenomenon, whether you care about it or not
[03:34:39] <cmn32480> his ass should really have a Superman logo on it
[03:34:46] <cmn32480> ok
[03:34:48] <SirFinkus> my thoughts where that anthropology would be studying how cultures and customs developed
[03:34:53] <SirFinkus> given a people's history
[03:35:16] <SirFinkus> and then examine the societal ramifications of certain subcultures
[03:35:21] <chromas> is your teacher a liberal arts major?
[03:35:24] <SirFinkus> which I believe is well within the realm of science
[03:35:24] <cmn32480> so it is a cultural phenomenon, and the people participating in it are reliving history by resegregating themselves from the rest of society
[03:35:40] <cmn32480> that'd be a good class
[03:35:50] <SirFinkus> no idea chromas
[03:36:18] <cmn32480> in reality, anthropology is the study of whateverthefuck your teacher wants it to be.
[03:36:41] <SirFinkus> anyway, I don't know wtf it is I've gotten into
[03:36:44] <cmn32480> therefore, you go along with it and give her back what she wants to hear, then write her a shitty review after youg et your grade
[03:37:10] <SirFinkus> which endorses her views, even if I give her a bad review
[03:37:18] <cmn32480> no
[03:37:40] <cmn32480> it is playing the fixed system to get your degree adn get the fuck out of college
[03:38:15] <cmn32480> it took me until I flunked out adn got drunk wiht my advisor after the fact to get this figured out
[03:38:19] <SirFinkus> but it isn't even playing the system, it's participating in the system
[03:38:46] <SirFinkus> I'm not "getting one over on her" by writing doublspeak essays
[03:38:56] <SirFinkus> I'm re-enforcing her beliefs
[03:38:59] <cmn32480> sometime participating in the system is the only way to get to the end reult you require
[03:39:04] <SirFinkus> bullshit
[03:40:05] <cmn32480> you are possibly correct
[03:40:21] <cmn32480> fighting the system is great, but you are spending a shitton of money to get your degree..
[03:41:00] <SirFinkus> for instance, in that last essay prompt, I could write a persuasive essay that disagrees with it, and likely get at least a passing grade if it's written well
[03:41:12] <cmn32480> the key to college (at least in my experience) was to get in adn get out wiht as little brainwashing as possible form the shitty teaCHERS
[03:41:18] <SirFinkus> if I don't, I can escalate to the dean or w/e
[03:41:30] <SirFinkus> just generally be a pain in the ass
[03:41:38] <SirFinkus> it's not like I'd be slacking or anything
[03:41:44] <cmn32480> and suck all the knowledge possible form the good ones
[03:42:03] <SirFinkus> at the very least, she'd know that someone didn't buy her curriculum
[03:43:19] <cmn32480> if that is your goal, I wish you the best.
[03:43:49] <cmn32480> but think about this: do you think she will care?
[03:44:17] <SirFinkus> probably not
[03:44:30] <SirFinkus> but I try to give people the benefit of the doubt
[03:44:37] <SirFinkus> assume they're arguing in good faith
[03:44:43] <SirFinkus> which is naive, but w/e
[03:47:07] <SirFinkus> "naive" is the wrong word, I'm fully aware people argue in bad faith
[03:47:14] * chromas gives SirFinkus a subscription to the internet
[03:47:14] <SirFinkus> I do too
[03:47:48] <SpallsHurgenson> not everyone :-/
[03:53:20] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[03:53:21] <privilege> ^ 03Dawn's December deep-dive's haul of images arrives • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[03:54:55] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[03:54:56] * exec brazenly postulates a spoon of skittles towards #soylent
[03:55:32] <SirFinkus> night chromas
[03:55:35] <SirFinkus> night cmn32480
[03:55:44] <cmn32480> good try though!
[03:55:45] * SpallsHurgenson hides food around the room and watches kitteh scamper about looking for the treats
[03:55:55] <cmn32480> ~gnight sirfinkus
[03:55:57] * exec allegedly blows a buzz saw of boogers at sirfinkus
[03:56:05] <cmn32480> ~gnight SpallsHurgenson
[03:56:07] * exec unjustifiably throws a bathtub of beer at SpallsHurgenson
[03:56:14] <cmn32480> ~gnight chromas
[03:56:16] * exec brazenly tosses a toilet bowl of dag to chromas
[03:56:27] <cmn32480> ~gnight everybody_else
[03:56:29] * exec suspiciously postulates a spoon of Debian towards everybody_else
[03:58:25] <chromas> ~g'night cmn32480
[03:58:27] * exec spontaneously flings an assfull of glowballs at cmn32480
[03:58:38] <Gravis> hmm... i'm beginning to understand why AU is so sparsely populated: http://maps.unomaha.edu
[03:58:39] <privilege> ^ 03Maps Page on Australia
[04:02:05] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[04:02:06] <privilege> ^ 03Globular clusters could harbour space-faring civilisations - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
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[04:04:54] <Gravis> Bytram: sure, they'll say it "could" but then tell you why it's unlikely.
[04:05:40] <Bytram> keep reading; they note that around red dwarfs, the opportunities improve greatly
[04:05:51] <Bytram> but, being faint, they would be harder for us to see.
[04:06:07] <Gravis> Bytram: a much better bet is to look for places similar to places known to harbor life.
[04:06:09] <Bytram> not saying it's likely, but given how LARGE space is, it makes for an intersting thought experiement
[04:06:25] <takyon> i heard that red dwarfs are not good for life
[04:06:29] <Bytram> anthropomorphic principal?
[04:06:35] <takyon> since they have instability
[04:06:47] <takyon> big solar flares
[04:07:32] <SpallsHurgenson> I heard that creatures evolved from cats can be found on red dwarfs
[04:07:41] <Gravis> Bytram: you mean "anthropic principle"?
[04:07:50] <Bytram> yeha, that's the one!
[04:08:19] <Gravis> Bytram: no because i did not mention "humans"
[04:08:38] <Gravis> Bytram: anywhere you find life, if you find similar conditions, look
[04:08:56] <Bytram> okay, if you just want to argue this evening, I'm not interested. Am exhausted, and nearly passed out at work.
[04:09:07] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[04:09:07] <privilege> ^ 03NFL Votes To Move Rams To Los Angeles, With Option For Chargers To Join Them : The Two-Way : NPR
[04:09:23] <Gravis> Bytram: the anthropic principle is specifically about humans.
[04:09:46] <Bytram> Gravis: I am not interested in discussing this with you.
[04:10:07] <Gravis> that's fine because there is nothing to discuss
[04:13:40] <arti> lol
[04:14:26] <arti> "nobody thanked the mediterranean sea yet, for accepting the major part of the refugees. What a cold world." -anonymous
[04:15:00] <Gravis> lol... oh man, that's cold.
[04:15:05] <Gravis> i'm not unstable, i'm 4 dimensional! https://upload.wikimedia.org
[04:15:40] <arti> wasn't 4 dimension a language?
[04:15:47] <arti> !g 4th dimension
[04:15:50] <arti> oh, right.
[04:16:12] <arti> https://en.wikipedia.org(software)
[04:16:13] <privilege> ^ 03Wiki: 4th Dimension (software
[04:19:10] <SpallsHurgenson> 4th Dimension? Man, I love that song! Devo rocks! :-)
[04:27:57] Deucalion is now known as juggs
[04:28:05] * juggs jiggles
[04:28:22] juggs is now known as Deucalion
[04:31:29] * SpallsHurgenson jiggles too
[04:31:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Activist Investor Clinton Group Dismantles Imation, Targets Violin - http://sylnt.us - profit-taking-to-the-max
[04:32:02] <Deucalion> Ewww... the mewbs.... the humanity!!!!
[04:51:08] * Bytram is saddened to have just learned that the 'N' in 'BNF' -- Peter Naur -- Passed away on January 3 of this year at the age of 87.
[04:59:12] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
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[05:31:36] * Deucalion ventures forth to the sleeping dimension
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[05:45:22] <arti> yes
[05:45:29] <arti> peter naur was a badass
[05:45:43] <arti> pretty cool history, too.
[06:02:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Incandescent Bulbs Improved by Nanotechnology - http://sylnt.us - lobbying-for-unban
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[06:08:14] <arti> greetings
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[06:58:46] <arti> tag
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[07:03:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hookahs Deliver 125x More Smoke Than Cigarettes - http://sylnt.us - carcinogen
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[07:16:51] <sea> Hookah smoking is a thing?
[07:23:31] <arti> yes.
[07:33:10] <sea> http://oceanic.space
[07:33:22] <sea> Oh god. I just looked outside and saw this.
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[07:50:47] <arti> http://i.imgur.com
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[07:53:20] <arti> looks like they're leaving together again
[07:53:24] <arti> that's how rumors get started
[08:04:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scripts Make the (Proprietary) Cadsoft EAGLE-to-(FOSS) KiCAD Transition Easier - http://sylnt.us - making-foss-tools-even-easier-to-use
[08:55:19] <poutine> when will soylentnews go tits up?
[08:55:25] <poutine> it's about there already
[09:02:29] <chromas> k
[09:03:50] <poutine> I still have to say "soylentnews" is the dumbest name ever
[09:03:55] <poutine> that vote for the name was a farce
[09:04:43] <chromas> should've named it https://pouti.ne
[09:04:57] <poutine> very true
[09:07:55] <poutine> bro I could totally replicate classic slashdot in a 4 line ruby on rails app delivered through a docker installation packaged in a vagrant vm, slashdotception
[09:09:04] <poutine> I think we should put a mysql database in a mongodb store and replicate it with couchbase across a SolrCloud Quorum
[09:09:13] <chromas> how about linux containers? :D
[09:09:33] <chromas> using systemd's machinectl
[09:09:50] <chromas> plus you missed nosql
[09:09:53] <poutine> guys how cool would it be if we'd just make slashdot a downloadable zip file, and we just curl the URL and pipe the resulting data through pkunzip, which would output txt files of top level articles, an article.txt, and subfolders to represent comment hierarchies, we can even use filesystem permissions for moderation filters, when we've added out own comments to the tree, we an then do a PUT to a proper restful api, poof slashdot
[09:10:16] <poutine> lol I said some gold stuff in this log
[09:10:22] <poutine> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[09:10:23] <privilege> ^ 03Wiki: IRC logs
[09:10:49] <poutine> chromas, solr is technically nosql
[09:10:56] <poutine> couchbase also
[09:11:03] <poutine> wait, mongodb is as well
[09:11:06] <poutine> I said many nosql
[09:11:39] <chromas> ah, I thought I'd heard similar lines before. Quoting your own wisdom
[09:11:56] <chromas> ah, so nosql is more of a protocol or something than an implementation
[09:12:11] <chromas> I just thought it was a buzzword like webscale and cloudshark
[09:12:30] <poutine> It just is a database of sorts that does not use sql, typically document model, simple key value databases
[09:12:59] <chromas> weren't databases around before sql?
[09:13:30] <chromas> I guess they just kind of renamed it, like renaming "non-interlaced" to "progressive scan"
[09:14:21] <poutine> chromas, yeah it is dumb naming, and used for buzzword laden conversations
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[10:04:04] <sea> Still simming?
[10:05:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - For the Second Time, We Are Witnessing a New Geological Epoch: The Anthropocene - http://sylnt.us - natural-climate-change
[10:12:24] <sea> Anthropocenic.
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[11:21:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:21:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2075
[11:26:53] <dyingtolive> holy crap it is coffee time.
[11:29:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, yes it is.
[11:30:03] * TheMightyBuzzard ♥s coffee
[11:37:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Youtube Killed the TV Star: How Online Video is Replacing TV - http://sylnt.us - cord-cutters-ftw
[11:38:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube video killed the radio star
[11:38:04] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[11:50:43] * nick yawn
[11:51:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, if you brits believed in coffee, yawning at lunchtime wouldn't be an issue.
[11:54:12] <nick> it might be lunchtime, but it's actually more like breakfast
[11:54:21] <nick> i havnt had a chance to eat or drink anything yet today
[11:56:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, even tea would be better than nothing
[11:57:17] <nick> a mouthful of water is about all i can manage in the first hour of the day
[11:57:44] <nick> but after the first hour, im either in the van or working, so food and drink has to wait until later
[11:58:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> right there with ya but s/water/coffee/
[11:59:22] <nick> i'm used to more leisurely mornings, but last few months have not been very leisurely
[11:59:37] <nick> having to work with other peoples schedules for a change
[11:59:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> perils of having plenty of work
[12:00:53] <nick> never been like this before, right now i have too much work and it's grinding me down
[12:01:56] <nick> need to make the most of it though, and keep grinding through it for the next few months and hopefully the money will be worth it
[12:02:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> "the reward for a job well done is more work" is both true and annoying
[12:03:20] <nick> that's not the worst situation, right now it's more that i have lots of work, but everyone i'm working for is working an angle and trying to be billionaire from property development
[12:03:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> more power to em i spose
[12:03:50] <nick> and everyone is avoiding paying everyone else, playing people off against each other, withholding information to trick people into taking on more work
[12:03:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeesh
[12:04:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> that avoiding paying part would cause me to avoid working
[12:04:16] <nick> i spent almost $20 for 3 hours parking yesterday
[12:04:27] <nick> you dont know they're going to avoid paying until you finish the work
[12:04:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, gotcha
[12:04:38] <nick> you can suspect, but you don't know until you have completed your end on the deal
[12:05:17] <nick> people need to make the most of the london property bubble, whilst it's still growing
[12:05:34] <nick> got to flip these properties quick and cheap
[12:06:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i spose. i dislike playing with bubbles myself. too easy to still be in during the pop.
[12:06:17] <nick> i'm not in it at all
[12:06:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> specially a slow moving one like housing
[12:06:27] <nick> but the fact is the rest of the country is neck deep in it
[12:06:44] <nick> and that's all thats keeping the lights on, the idea that an average property in london will be worth $1.5m in 4 years
[12:06:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, fun.
[12:07:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's going to lead to a seriously boned economy
[12:07:17] <nick> because that's what our economy is based on, financial services and an inflated housing market off the back of it
[12:07:29] <nick> tying in about 80% of 'private wealth' into property here
[12:07:54] <nick> so any minor fall in house prices, means the voting public becomes a lot poorer, on paper, as that's the only kind of wealth available
[12:07:58] <nick> so it can't be allowed to happen
[12:08:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[12:08:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> really bad thing to base the economy on all things considered
[12:08:47] <nick> which is why i'm working on opting out and going somewhere where life is more simple and a sq ft of land doesn't cost thousands.
[12:09:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. come on across the pond. you can buy acres and acres here for the price of dirt.
[12:09:38] <nick> as i think i mentioned recently, we're in the zone of making walls thinner, because every inch of floor space counts when the valuation is done
[12:09:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh
[12:09:52] <nick> saving a few inches here, not only saves on material, but adds thousands to the property value
[12:10:52] <nick> the USA doesn't want me, and to be fair, they've not made it enticing to go over there
[12:11:31] <nick> so i'm looking more into developing countries, including a trip to south america next month to see what the possibilities are
[12:11:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> me and the roomie are paying under $700/mo for a decent three bedroom house with a yard that's annoyingly big when mowing time comes.
[12:11:54] <nick> yeah, that's like the price of a room here in a shared apartment
[12:12:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> brutal
[12:12:06] <nick> each, obviously.
[12:12:32] <nick> i only came back to the UK for work anyway, had no intention of staying
[12:13:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> careful down in south merica. stick to brazil if you can. they're the safest and they're still mostly a hole in the wall.
[12:13:39] <nick> uruguay is where i'm starting, but also going to check out brazil and argentina from there
[12:14:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> me, i was considering doing IT work down on a caribbean island up until the roomie asked me to go to TN with him so he'd actually know someone in the state.
[12:14:32] <nick> uruguay seems to be the most friendly as far as non-nationals buying property, and has a reasonably stable history
[12:14:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:15:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> you don't really hear much disturbing about Chile either
[12:15:15] <nick> did you have a job offer in the caribbean, or just fancying a change of scenery?
[12:15:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> the latter. i was actively looking into the IT jobs situation there though.
[12:15:55] <nick> there's work, it's what i was doing out there
[12:16:24] <nick> it was certainly a better option than doing my normal shit, but it would depend on the country and what specifically you were going into
[12:16:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep. i probably would have been there lounging on a beach and admining from a laptop right now but for the roomie.
[12:17:05] <nick> i was keeping it simple with web design and pc repairs, the money wasn't good, but it was enough to live on out there
[12:17:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, perks of a poor economy. low cost of living if you don't need too many bells and whistles.
[12:17:42] <nick> and a lot less stress than trying to import and install security systems out there
[12:18:03] <nick> yup
[12:18:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> think st vincent was the one i likely would have went with.
[12:19:15] <nick> that would have been a nice place to be, lots of islands though, so finding work would be even more challenging than somewhere like antigua for example
[12:20:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i found openings that i could have all but walked into here in the US. stuff i was way overqualified for and could have done in my sleep. and would have done for very little money.
[12:21:19] <nick> that's quite unusual, at least in my experience, there's nothing available on the street
[12:21:25] <nick> it's all word of mouth and who you know
[12:22:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, there weren't a lot of them and they weren't prestigious positions but there were a few at least
[12:22:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> like hotel network manager
[12:22:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i would so do that for a room and enough to eat off of.
[12:22:37] <nick> that would be a decent gig
[12:23:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. specially if it were near enough the beach that the wifi reached.
[12:23:09] <nick> before i left, i had a lot of work supposedly on the table, for hotels and other major businesses on the island
[12:23:22] <nick> suddenly though, they were less keen when they had to sign a contract before i'd begin the work...
[12:23:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i was looking more for a permanent position than contract work. less hustle to find it.
[12:24:45] <nick> would be a foreign owned hotel would be your best bet then, at least where i was, permanent positions don't really exist outside of foreign companies and the government
[12:25:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> it probably was. that was the choicest listing i found on st v
[12:25:35] <nick> but the ones that i had trouble with, were foreign companies, but the local representatives were the ones trying to fuck me over
[12:25:45] <nick> i'd assume to get me to do the work, but keep the money for themselves
[12:26:29] <nick> being 'the white boy' didn't do me any favours out there.
[12:26:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could have probably gotten by on a comp'd room and $15K/yr. i doubt payment would have been much of an issue.
[12:27:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, pale is not the predominant skin hue on most islands.
[12:27:46] <nick> in that situation you're describing, it would probably be ok
[12:28:13] <nick> certainly enough to live on and enjoy life if you arn't too fussed about getting the latest iphone and a new audi
[12:28:54] <nick> managed to open an audi dealership where i was, within weeks, the island was flooded with brand new audis, all on finance naturally
[12:28:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> right. just need a new comp every couple years, a good internet connection, and enough money for booze to drink while lounging on the beach.
[12:29:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[12:29:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely all getting repossessed shortly too
[12:29:43] <nick> for sure, it's not an uncommon sight to see a wooden shack with no water supply
[12:29:54] <nick> but a european sports car parked on the dirt out front
[12:30:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could do that as long as there were somewhere near that had coffee
[12:30:33] <nick> oh sure, it's not the end of the world, but it's the priorities the people have
[12:30:49] <nick> a new phone that they dont know how to use, and an expensive car is more important than a roof on their home
[12:31:03] <nick> stuff you can be seen out with
[12:31:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. me and spartan get along really well except for my desktop and fishing gear.
[12:32:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, it's time to top up the addictions. back in 10ish
[12:32:27] <dyingtolive> wow. okay, public service announcement: so if you decide to want to make a batch of pancakes with buttermilk pancake mix, and you think, "well, maybe i'll just add some more buttermilk in there to make them EVEN BETTER".... stop.
[12:32:37] <nick> i'm in the situation that everything i own can fit in/on my car
[12:32:43] <nick> enjoy the vices, TheMightyBuzzard
[12:32:59] * nick is no good at making pancakes
[12:34:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> I don't make pancakes; if I want them, I just pop over to one of the local breakfast places.
[12:35:23] <cmn32480> ~gday #soylent
[12:35:24] * exec dexterously poops a coffee++ mug of red cordial for #soylent
[12:35:30] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:35:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2076
[12:35:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> Fortunately there's one in walking distance from my house and one in walking distance from work.
[12:36:18] <dyingtolive> i thought i was. i hope that's not a sign of things to come for the day.
[12:40:37] <cmn32480> dyingtolive - I have learned that lesson in the past as well
[12:40:50] <cmn32480> my kids still thinkit is funny
[12:44:17] * TheMightyBuzzard debates on fixing the spaces in urls bug
[12:45:25] * chromas sneaks around, replacing everyone's hotcakes with waffles
[12:47:28] * cmn32480 encourages TheMightyBuzzard to do it
[12:47:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> might. depends on if i can find it relatively quickly
[12:48:38] <exec> hands themightybuzzard an extra cup of coffee++
[12:51:06] * GravyCheeseFries slips some bacon in the coffee++
[12:57:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg. it's gotta be somewhere in Utility::Data but I'm not finding it.
[13:01:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> strip_anchor being applied poorly maybe?
[13:03:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, looks like quite possibly
[13:05:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[13:07:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrmf, can't get the source of the page because it sends a new damned request for the source without the post data
[13:14:14] <chromas> isn't that the dumbest thing? it already has the source; no need to request it again
[13:14:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[13:16:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, stripped BEFORE display
[13:38:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Self-Adaptive Material Heals Itself, Stays Tough - http://sylnt.us - T2000-in-the-making
[13:59:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> PSA, dev is going up and down like your mom on prom night. don't expect it to be working.
[14:01:10] <CoolHand> I'm so freakin wrapped up in Netflix's "Making a Murderer" right now.. I can't stop going out finding news articles on it and reading comments about it.. crazy stuff
[14:02:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> good ole fudgeurl. i do so hate that sub.
[14:03:58] <chromas> replace it with superfudgeurl
[14:04:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, fixed it
[14:04:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> go me
[14:08:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent. i love changing three characters and being able to close an issue.
[14:12:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, there's that done and pull requested.
[14:31:44] <Runaway1956> Wut? Wait a minute - who is Kay?
[14:32:33] <Runaway1956> I'm wondering whether I wanted to be here when she stripped.
[14:33:31] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhhh - the captured sailors have already been released - that's good - now I need to read the story . . .
[14:34:32] <chromas> Kay's a dude
[14:34:46] <chromas> he sells diamonds by the sea shore
[14:34:52] <Runaway1956> Oh - well, I don't swing that way, so I missed nothing.
[14:35:08] <chromas> it's not swinging if you just watch
[14:35:16] <Runaway1956> Speaking of which, how they swinging
[14:35:28] <Runaway1956> Why do people ask that?
[14:35:38] <Runaway1956> Do they really care how they are swinging?
[14:35:41] <chromas> laterally, like usual
[14:36:10] <Runaway1956> If they swing at all, it's better than bouncind.
[14:36:16] <Runaway1956> *bouncing
[14:37:21] <Runaway1956> Suckretary of State, John Kerry, made some meaningless noises after the sailors were releasec . . .
[14:44:37] <paulej72> isn't eveything any politician says meaningless noise
[14:45:25] <Runaway1956> Well - not quite everything. A couple times every century, one or two politicians actually says something. Just don't hold your breath waiting for it.
[15:09:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Discover 2,100-year-old Stash of “Fine Plucked” Tea - http://sylnt.us - tea++
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[17:06:32] <Alberto> o/
[17:06:58] <chromas> \o
[17:08:12] <Alberto> howdy
[17:08:52] <chromas> Welcome back to the internet, sir
[17:11:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Baby Boomers Embrace Sensor-driven Cars, But Doubt Self-driving Cars - http://sylnt.us - everyone-should-learn-to-drive-a-stick
[17:15:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> Does my bicycle count as a stick?
[17:15:41] <chromas> Among other things
[17:15:45] * Alberto was hidden from the internet
[17:37:25] <cmn32480> better than the internet being hidden from Alberto
[18:42:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla Chief Elon Musk Says Apple is Making an Electric Car - http://sylnt.us - monkey-see
[18:54:05] <sea> "Please confirm you are not a robot"
[18:54:10] * sea ticks the "I am not a robot" box.
[19:01:09] <chromas> you're clearly a robot
[19:06:06] * sea cannot find the capital letter at the start of that sentence, or the period at the end
[19:06:09] * sea spazzes out
[19:06:25] * sea chants ERROR, then explodes
[19:08:01] <sea> YEAAAAAAH!! It's a Party in the YOU ESS AEY
[19:18:05] <Gravis> booo! a peaceful resolution without even devolving into name calling. http://www.bbc.com
[19:18:08] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03US thanks Iran for swift release of 10 Navy sailors - BBC News
[19:18:14] <Gravis> assholes
[19:30:54] <sea> Dude, I just got banned from another channel
[19:31:00] <sea> This is what I said:
[19:31:03] <sea> 'Just so you all know, it's a popular pastime out here to joke about the USA. It's what we do when idle. We have a lot of things to make jokes about: the absurd border security, the obesity, the sheer ignorance and stupidity, the media (FOX news, anyone?), the (always makes me laugh) claim to be about 'freedom' while enslaving half their population, the inequality, the overblown military, the police beatings, the megareligions, ... '
[19:31:37] <sea> I'm thinking here, wondering which of those it might have been.
[19:32:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> were they banning you for fun?
[19:32:25] <dyingtolive> there's just no sense of humor on the internet these days.
[19:32:29] <sea> Who knows? I won't bother re-joining.
[19:33:01] <sea> ..and y'know I didn't even mention the healthcare or education systems.
[19:33:07] <sea> but that's covered by the ...
[19:33:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> by the sheer ignorance and stupidity?
[19:33:39] <dyingtolive> implying there's a system behind what we call education. err... maybe they didn't get it?
[19:33:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> (which you already mentioned)
[19:34:58] <sea> Nah, it's actually a separate joke topic. Everybody jokes about americans being stupid, that's a fact and nobody will ever escape that. It's common. The education jokes are about the creationism in biology textbooks in school, and the price of the schools and textbooks themselves. $50,000 per year if you want to learn maths, that kinda thing.
[19:35:41] <sea> "An American forgot their textbook at home one day. They managed to get away with using the King James Version, though."
[19:35:50] <sea> That's one of them.
[19:36:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> I don't think Americans are any stupider than the world population at large...but they are definitely more ignorant than, for example, most Europeans.
[19:36:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> But then, I'm American, so I might be biased.
[19:36:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> And I still find the jokes funny.
[19:38:36] <sea> We have statistics, though. http://www.huffingtonpost.com
[19:38:36] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03The U.S. Illiteracy Rate Hasn't Changed In 10 Years
[19:39:32] <sea> The short version: 1/5th of adult americans can't read. The worse part: 1/5th of american /high school graduates/ can't read, either. (That's explicitly mentioned in the article)
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[22:00:38] <dyingtolive> I really wanted to call out the huffpost illiteracy statistic posted earlier, but then I looked at the comments on a political news site and it made much more sense.
[22:02:43] <Gravis> sea: i find it hard to imagine that 1/5 of graduates are completely illiterate.
[22:04:28] <Gravis> sea: i mean... maybe in texas... but nationally?
[22:04:32] <Gravis> ;)
[22:09:32] <Gravis> see, now this makes sense because it's more likely english literacy that is an issue
[22:09:33] <Gravis> Demographics of Adults Who Read Below a Basic Level Percent of Population
[22:09:33] <Gravis> Hispanic 41 %
[22:09:47] <Gravis> Black 24 %
[22:09:47] <Gravis> White 9 %
[22:09:47] <Gravis> Other 13 %
[22:11:13] <Gravis> i'm going to go out on a limb and say most are literate in another language
[22:14:05] <Gravis> sea: what i'm trying to say is: http://webcomicsguide.com
[22:37:41] <chromas> Can't argue with one-in-five campus stats. Ask a feminist.
[22:39:20] <Gravis> Subsentient: this is the plan: http://pastebin.com
[22:39:57] <Gravis> chromas: gender feminism != feminism
[22:40:36] <Gravis> gender feminism is vile.
[22:40:38] <chromas> Didn't say gender
[22:41:09] <Gravis> well any egalitarian is also a feminist
[22:41:27] <chromas> Not really
[22:41:46] <Gravis> chromas: then you don't know the definition of one of those words
[22:43:08] <chromas> Better point me to the dictionary definition of feminism, but then later tell me the dictionary doesn't have the real definition of something else later on
[22:44:17] <chromas> They call it "intersectional feminism" now, not "gender feminism"
[22:45:05] <Gravis> http://www.merriam-webster.com
[22:45:05] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Feminism | Definition of Feminism by Merriam-Webster
[22:45:54] <chromas> Good job. I award you one internet, and this clip https://www.youtube.com
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[22:46:52] <Gravis> chromas: here's what you consider "feminism" https://en.wikipedia.org
[22:46:53] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Wiki: Radical feminism
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[23:17:14] <sea> Gravis: Huh? What? Is that wolverine and some rabbits? Huhh??
[23:18:18] <sea> chromas: Aha, what is 'intersectional feminism'? I saw that term the other day and was curious about it. I was thinking about what it might mean just last week. I was thinking "Intersection..of what?"
[23:19:03] <sea> nevermind I looked it up
[23:19:11] <chromas> Like systemd, it's where you take completely unrelated things and try to stuff them under one umbrella
[23:20:40] <chromas> It's probably popular because western feminists don't have any real issues.
[23:27:17] <sea> According to the wikipedia article, it's actually an unnecessary reduction in scope. "Intersectionalism" is already a thing, and it's just another name for 'egalitarianism', basically.
[23:28:12] <sea> but 'intersectional feminism' takes 'intersectionalism' and reduces the scope a bit to focus on feminism specifically, even though that broad egalitarianism worked /just fine/ without focusing on one thing.
[23:28:48] <chromas> According to proponents, victimhood victimhood!
[23:30:10] <sea> chromas: You're missing the point. Victimhood for /women/, /only/. Black guy gets discriminated against? The intersectional feminist says: "Was it a woman? No? I don't care then."
[23:30:43] <chromas> There's a hierarchy
[23:32:28] <GravyCheeseFries> #smake chromas The Patriarchy
[23:32:28] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with The Patriarchy
[23:32:56] <sea> Ah, yes, a hierarchy of equality. Some people are equal, but some are MORE equal than others, right?
[23:33:07] <sea> Gotta have that hierarchy in there.
[23:34:51] <chromas> http://i3.kym-cdn.com
[23:49:18] <sea> :/ I didn't get half of the jokes..
[23:49:26] <sea> I think someone needs to explain the other half
[23:56:39] <chromas> You mean the half you did get? :D
[23:56:58] <sea> I don't know. I can't even tell
[23:57:19] <sea> It seems like there's a very complicated collection of jokes here to get but I'm not sure I get them
[23:58:03] <sea> Sometimes it looks sarcastic, other times it looks like it's sarcastically pretending to be sarcastic, to make it funnier.