#Soylent | Logs for 2016-01-08
« return
[00:11:53] <paulej72> poop
[00:12:47] <paulej72> I am playing a new game. It is call sort the emails
[00:13:22] <paulej72> see how low you can get your inbox items without blowing off work
[00:13:37] <cmn32480> 38 is my record paulej72
[00:14:16] <paulej72> I am currently at 967 down from over 2k
[00:16:38] <cmn32480> keep going my young padawan
[00:17:04] <cmn32480> while sorting, I find that unsubscribing from mailing lists helps
[00:17:17] <cmn32480> and you have my greatest sympathy
[00:17:58] -!- idetuxs [idetuxs!~idetuxs@181.164.xqt.tg] has joined #Soylent
[00:18:20] <paulej72> I have a tendency to let small jobs stew too long in my inbox. In the last couple of days I been sorting emails and doing all of thoes small jobs
[00:18:53] <paulej72> I am working on Aug emails now
[00:20:10] <idetuxs> Hi everyone!
[00:20:13] <idetuxs> o/
[00:20:24] <arti> paule, do you need to gamify things?
[00:20:53] <arti> my unopened email is pretty epic, there's so much stuff that gets blasted out
[00:21:08] <arti> "attend AWS expo" fek that
[00:22:20] <paulej72> most of the shit gets caught by my junk filters. I get avout 400 work related emails a month. About 1/2 I need to actually do something about
[00:23:51] <paulej72> I do not do phone at work. My phone is actually in my office, but I work mostly in a differnt lab that I have temoporarily taken over
[00:24:22] <cmn32480> 400/month?
[00:24:28] <cmn32480> you lucky bastard!
[00:24:43] <cmn32480> I average about 100/day
[00:25:06] <takyon> schwoooop
[00:25:09] * arti glanced and assumed it was $$$ day
[00:26:23] <paulej72> Well I do get more, but they are automagically dumped to folders I do not need to look at normally
[00:26:59] <takyon> http://www.futurity.org
[00:27:00] <cloudshark> ^ 03Atomic bomb fallout in turtle shells reveals their age - Futurity
[00:27:42] <paulej72> 850 and falling
[00:28:31] <cmn32480> I get about 100, usually about 50/day need attention
[00:28:49] <cmn32480> the rest are systems related stuff that pertains to our service organization call system
[00:31:27] <cmn32480> all these little tasks aren't like password resets that you are doing months later are they?
[00:31:51] <cmn32480> that'd be a total BOFH move, and hilarious, but might be disruptive
[00:32:14] <paulej72> sort of.
[00:32:44] -!- SpallsHurgenson [SpallsHurgenson!~SpallsHur@Soylent/Users/656/SpallsHurgenson] has joined #Soylent
[00:34:26] <SirFinkus> my anthropology class has become less about anthropology to me, and more about discrediting my professor
[00:34:58] <cmn32480> isn't that what college is for?
[00:35:15] <SirFinkus> I don't think that's how people think of it these days
[00:35:25] <SirFinkus> I kind of got her to concede a point
[00:35:31] <paulej72> yes it is
[00:35:33] <SpallsHurgenson> I thought it was for drinking and sex
[00:35:46] <SirFinkus> she said culture is "arbitrary", which I called out as bullshit
[00:35:52] <paulej72> just look at the black lives matter group
[00:35:58] <SpallsHurgenson> come to think of it, that's what I see work as for
[00:36:09] <SirFinkus> she said what she meant was that it was non-determinitistic
[00:36:33] <SirFinkus> but arbitrary and non-deterministic are two different words, with different meaning
[00:37:18] <SirFinkus> it seemed to be an important distinction, because if culture is arbitrary, there's little it can teach us about group of people, which is the stated purpose of the class
[00:37:43] <cmn32480> lol
[00:38:27] <SirFinkus> I do believe every thing is deterministic btw, but that's a belief that one can't really prove
[00:38:52] <SirFinkus> so at least I can debate that since she (anthropologists?) have a different viewpoint
[00:39:18] <cmn32480> ~define deterministic
[00:39:19] <exec> deterministic: unable to find definition
[00:39:28] <SirFinkus> I can really argue with someone who believes the social equivalent of creationism
[00:39:29] <cmn32480> ~define fart
[00:39:30] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03fart: 1. 1-man salute 2. 7.4 on the Rectum scale 3. Acid-rain maker 4. After the thunder comes the rain 5. Air bagel 6. Airbrush your boxers 7. Anal acoustics 8. Anal ahem 9. Anal audio 10. Anal salute 11....
[00:39:46] <cmn32480> so ~define does still work
[00:40:15] <paulej72> only for urbandictionary prob
[00:40:20] <cmn32480> likely
[00:40:37] <SirFinkus> https://en.wiktionary.org
[00:40:38] <cloudshark> ^ 03Wiki: determinism
[00:40:38] <cmn32480> my guess is that is probably the only place it looks
[00:40:44] <cmn32480> ~g determinism
[00:40:46] <exec> [google] www.informationphilosopher.com/freedom/determinism.html
[00:41:36] <SirFinkus> I tend towards the "computing" definition
[00:41:36] <cmn32480> so how does time travel fit inot that, exactly?
[00:42:01] * SirFinkus shrugs
[00:42:07] <SirFinkus> time travel is full of paradoxes
[00:42:38] <SirFinkus> I don't think any philosophy could really explain them, but I'm not a philosopher.
[00:43:36] <SirFinkus> I believe the majority of scientists and a great number of philosophers believe in determinism when it comes to concepts like free will, which has some interesting implications
[00:44:17] <takyon> here's a paradox: you need to invent time travel before you can time travel
[00:44:50] <SirFinkus> that article cmn32480 posted claims that quantum theory means the universe is non-deterministic
[00:45:07] <SirFinkus> but isn't the point of quantum theory to explain why the universe behaves the way it does?
[00:45:08] <paulej72> can I have a pair o doxies
[00:45:15] <SirFinkus> I don't know anything about quantum theory though
[00:45:36] <cmn32480> I know one thing about quantum theory
[00:45:45] <cmn32480> I know it is way over my head
[00:45:56] <SirFinkus> it just seems odd that scientists would hang up a "here be dragons" sign and give up trying to figure it out
[00:47:03] <cmn32480> oooooo dragons!
[00:47:06] <SirFinkus> so I strongly suspect bullshit when it comes to that article, especially given the bullshit halo when quantum physics is cited by non quantum physicists
[00:47:34] <cmn32480> all exec did was post the first google result for the provided search terms
[00:47:51] <SirFinkus> I know, I was just responding to a part in it that I read
[00:48:21] <cmn32480> ~weather
[00:48:22] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 40°F / 4°C, cloudy, wind NE at 3 mph, humidity 77% - Thursday cloudy (34°F:41°F / 1°C:5°C), Friday cloudy (39°F:44°F / 4°C:7°C), Saturday cloudy (47°F:51°F / 8°C:11°C), Sunday scattered showers (26°F:57°F / -3°C:14°C)
[00:48:29] <SirFinkus> "Since modern quantum physics shows that the universe is indeterministic, with profound effects on microscopic processes at the atomic scale, we will find it valuable to distinguish pre-determinism from the adequate determinism that we have in the real world. " this part
[00:48:35] * SpallsHurgenson is a big believer in space zombies... few questions need answering after space zombies
[00:48:41] <SirFinkus> made me say "o rly?"
[00:51:33] <SirFinkus> apparently determinism in anthropology has been "discredited", but I see that as mainly because it was used to justify oppressing people
[00:51:39] <SirFinkus> and the theories were sloppy
[00:52:49] <SirFinkus> they basically had a "tech tree" that they theorized societies had to follow, which was discredited when they found societies that had skipped steps
[00:52:58] <SirFinkus> it's much more nuanced than that
[00:53:23] <SirFinkus> and just because a theory was used to justify evil things, doesn't mean it isn't a valid theory
[00:53:36] <SirFinkus> we don't toss out genetics because it was used to justify eugenics programs
[00:54:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> done with my minecraft mod, yays!
[00:54:09] <arti> oh snap
[00:54:11] <arti> bukkit?
[00:54:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> forge
[00:54:24] <arti> what does the mod do?
[00:54:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> puts 122 new records in
[00:54:49] <chromas> it runs slash in minecraft
[00:54:54] <arti> ugly
[00:55:14] * SirFinkus imagines the editor department frantically pulling levers
[00:55:15] <arti> 122 records, like sounds
[00:55:27] <arti> sirfinkus: "we need more engineers!"
[00:55:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> basically went through my tunes collection and just picked out a buncha good ones. clocks in at 717MB.
[00:55:40] <arti> cool stuff :D
[00:55:44] <paulej72> choo choo engineers
[00:56:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it was a pain but the roomie's kid will think i'm super epic guy for being able to do it.
[00:56:28] <SirFinkus> I picture a Terry Gilliam type operation
[00:57:03] <SirFinkus> https://en.wikipedia.org(1985_film) SN behind the scenes
[00:57:04] <cloudshark> ^ 03Wiki: Brazil (1985 film
[00:57:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Discover New Fundamental Quantum Mechanical Property - http://sylnt.us - wave-particle-duality
[00:57:37] <arti> the Transbit!
[00:57:55] <arti> it identifies with the observer
[00:58:35] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm pretty sure the space-zombies were created by astral vampires too
[00:58:45] <SpallsHurgenson> it all makes sense when you think about it
[00:59:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll do a pet ender golem mod next, after we get the site update finalized n rolled out.
[01:00:01] <SirFinkus> fishing mod?
[01:00:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> already is fishing
[01:00:10] <SirFinkus> catch and batter fish
[01:00:27] <SirFinkus> figured there probably would be
[01:00:54] * paulej72 needs to get off my butt and do some sn coding
[01:00:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> every rpg since EQ has had fishing, seems like.
[01:01:14] <SirFinkus> eve online didn't have fishing
[01:01:20] <SirFinkus> unless you counted can flipping
[01:02:03] <SpallsHurgenson> skyrim didn't have fishing
[01:02:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, i'd like to roll out whatever we have after a week of testing like Feb 1. woulda liked it around new years but i always forget how busy that time of year gets.
[01:02:15] <arti> not at release
[01:02:17] <SirFinkus> skyrim was barely an rpg
[01:02:19] <SpallsHurgenson> it had fishing poles but no fishing :/
[01:02:23] <takyon> what
[01:02:31] <takyon> what was wrong with skyrim
[01:02:34] <arti> there's so many mods
[01:02:40] <SpallsHurgenson> if we're counting EQ as an RPG...
[01:02:41] <paulej72> I can do that I think
[01:02:46] <arti> they've got a minigame where you do trading
[01:03:00] <arti> between towns, market prices etc.
[01:03:04] <arti> so many mods
[01:03:04] <SirFinkus> it was trash, no sense of progression, the stats hardly mattered
[01:03:15] <arti> ^-- sounds like final fantasy
[01:03:21] <SirFinkus> nor the equipment
[01:03:24] <arti> "better play more for some cut scenes"
[01:03:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool cool. i got a bug fix or two left i wanna get in there but i think i'm mostly done with this update.
[01:03:43] <SirFinkus> I tried to play a few final fantasy games, I found them very boring
[01:03:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake SirFinkus
[01:03:53] * MrPlow smakes SirFinkus upside the head with a 988
[01:04:00] * arti talks out of sync with the audio
[01:04:06] <SirFinkus> TheMightyBuzzard: I tried
[01:04:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> how did you not get hooked on em as a kid?
[01:04:38] <SirFinkus> gave an honest 2 hours to FFX and FFVII, both we crap
[01:04:48] <SirFinkus> too busy playing Grandia
[01:04:52] <arti> grandia was cool
[01:05:03] <arti> tangent: did you ever play super mario rpg?
[01:05:05] <SirFinkus> and age of empires
[01:05:13] <SirFinkus> naw
[01:05:14] <arti> AoE is in a revival
[01:05:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> try FF III (VI if you're japanese)
[01:05:39] <takyon> Age of Empires?
[01:05:40] <arti> AoE II is pretty popular right now, they've released more expansions
[01:05:41] <arti> ya
[01:05:43] <SirFinkus> I might, but I feel like I've given the series more than a fair shot
[01:05:49] <SirFinkus> the HD remake is pretty nice
[01:05:52] * arti nods
[01:05:57] <SirFinkus> just turn off the 3d water
[01:06:04] * arti converts one of finkus's catapults to christianity
[01:06:06] <takyon> the new new AOE 2 added those super gigantic map sizes
[01:06:20] <arti> wololo
[01:06:23] <takyon> you could only convert catapults in Age of Empires: Rise of Rome
[01:06:31] <takyon> llel
[01:06:35] <paulej72> woo hoo. I am done with august and down to 518 emails
[01:06:52] <SirFinkus> I mainly used monks for healing and carrying relics
[01:06:54] <arti> Emails: Gotta Read 'em ALL!
[01:07:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, you know it'd be a crying shame if your fingers slipped and hit ctrl-A and then delete
[01:07:13] <takyon> I really liked the relic implementation in Age of Mythology, where you got a random bonus
[01:07:49] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: that instadeath in this game
[01:08:05] <SirFinkus> I also liked cheating, giving myself unlimited resources, and attacking with mobs of villagers building castles and bombard towers
[01:08:18] <takyon> castle rush
[01:08:21] <arti> village rush is good
[01:08:26] <takyon> like cannon rush in Starcraft
[01:08:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> need a small perl script to autorespond then
[01:08:45] <SirFinkus> not really though, since it takes a while in aoe2
[01:08:56] <SirFinkus> gotta advance an age, and building shit takes forever
[01:09:16] <takyon> castles really fuck with the AI though if you get them in the right places
[01:09:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> have it throw some random bofh buzzwords into an explanation then take a random corrective action like forcing a password reset or deleting half their mailbox
[01:09:23] <SirFinkus> you could probably do it, but if you rushed your age upgrade that quickly, they'd know what's up if it was a human
[01:09:24] <takyon> humans, maybe not so much
[01:09:40] <SirFinkus> so it's even more all-in than cannon rushes
[01:09:51] <takyon> one of the civs can build castles for 400-something stone instead of 650
[01:10:03] <takyon> i think it's the franks
[01:10:15] <SirFinkus> the guard towers are pretty week too if there's just one of them
[01:10:32] <takyon> towers are pretty week in AOE2. they were strong in AOE1
[01:10:38] <takyon> *weak
[01:10:46] <SirFinkus> so I don't think you could rush something like that very effectively
[01:11:00] <SirFinkus> unless the enemy had a resource that they hadn't touched, but were going to need soon
[01:11:23] <SirFinkus> you could create a pita at a gold mine for instance
[01:14:11] <takyon> in AOE2 I really liked that competitive map where you got a line of castles and units that just spawned at a base, and then you get upgrades and super units by getting kills
[01:14:13] <SirFinkus> the best game for building attacks is supcom though
[01:14:17] <takyon> castle something
[01:14:26] <SirFinkus> god, the artillery
[01:15:04] <SirFinkus> I remember I won a game once because my huge artillery cannon hit an enemy experimental just as it was taking off across the map
[01:15:08] <SirFinkus> it was awesome
[01:17:02] <SirFinkus> it's all kitty collector now
[01:17:25] <takyon> i think i remember the name of it
[01:17:48] <SirFinkus> https://play.google.com
[01:17:49] <cloudshark> ^ 03Neko Atsume: Kitty Collector - Android Apps on Google Play
[01:17:53] <SirFinkus> YOU CAN SEE THE CAT'S ASSHOLES
[01:18:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> you always can in japanese art
[01:18:23] <SirFinkus> they're on to something
[01:18:43] <takyon> it was called castle blood
[01:18:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> apparently it's an incomplete cat without an X under the tail
[01:19:24] <SirFinkus> if you want cat asshole, get the paper bag
[01:19:53] <SirFinkus> consistent cat asshole, although you won't be lacking cat asshole with most items
[01:20:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> get any paper. they'll plop their brown-eye down on it faster than you can read the first paragraph of what's written on it.
[01:20:51] <SirFinkus> yeah, cats love rubbing their assholes on things
[01:21:10] <SirFinkus> if you pet a cat, they'll present their asshole to you and rub it against you
[01:21:16] <SirFinkus> put that shit right in your face
[01:21:22] <SirFinkus> "come on, rim me"
[01:21:26] <SirFinkus> no, fuck you cat
[01:21:34] <SirFinkus> you can rim yourself
[01:21:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i kinda pity my female cat. she don't got a tail to cover that shit up in the winter.
[01:22:48] <SirFinkus> cats have really rough tongues too, I can imagine why they'd enjoy licking their assholes
[01:22:55] <SirFinkus> that's like a nighmare to me
[01:23:01] <SirFinkus> rubbing my asshole with sandpaper
[01:23:09] <chromas> Bender: grab SirFinkus
[01:23:09] <Bender> Added quote 644
[01:23:15] <SirFinkus> WET sandpaper
[01:23:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> makes you wonder if you been missing out though
[01:24:06] <SirFinkus> so I should let my cat lick my asshole?
[01:24:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> only if you film it and post a link. we promise not to run it as a story. more than once.
[01:25:01] <SirFinkus> if you aren't going to run it as a story, why would I post it?
[01:25:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> well mostly to summon ethanol-fueled
[01:25:40] <SirFinkus> he's into cats?
[01:25:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't seen him in a while and it's getting boring
[01:26:26] <takyon> let it happen
[01:27:08] -!- cwtch [cwtch!~cwtch@straight.outta.localhost] has joined #Soylent
[01:27:27] * SirFinkus should write a journal ranting about his anthro class
[01:28:25] <SirFinkus> whenever I turn my amp on, you can hear the caps charge
[01:28:31] <SirFinkus> is there a better sound in the world?
[01:28:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, caps discharging when someone foolishly picks them up while fully charged
[01:29:08] <paulej72> EHt is on winter break
[01:29:22] <SirFinkus> oh, I also like how it takes a second for the tube to heat up
[01:29:30] <paulej72> probably see him in about a week or so
[01:29:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nod nod
[01:29:58] <paulej72> cat will discharge like a cap
[01:30:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you step on their foot in the dark they sure will
[01:30:52] <SirFinkus> or if you lick a male cat's asshole enough
[01:31:01] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[01:31:01] <cloudshark> ^ 03Stomach Of Ancient Iceman Held Microbes Like Ours : Shots - Health News : NPR
[01:31:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll take your word for it
[01:31:21] <paulej72> rub a cat with a balloon
[01:40:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[01:40:44] <cloudshark> ^ 03The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything-Relient K - YouTube
[01:42:01] <paulej72> hit a wall. July is a high email month. the pace is slow
[01:42:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> caffeine
[01:43:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://uploadvr.com
[01:43:09] <cloudshark> ^ 03Wireless Desktop VR May Be Closer Than You Think
[01:43:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> I swear they're just throwing buzzwords together for that
[01:45:05] <SpallsHurgenson> needs inductive charging and something about the cloud
[01:46:42] <chromas> Bender: grab SirFinkus
[01:46:42] <Bender> Added quote 645
[01:46:46] <chromas> [he was waiting for it]
[01:46:56] <chromas> s/wait/ask/
[01:46:56] <sedctl> <chromas> [he was asking for it]
[01:46:59] <SirFinkus> not really
[01:47:08] <SirFinkus> forgot actually
[01:47:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> he was busy chasing down his cat
[01:48:08] <chromas> licka licka
[01:58:49] <takyon> so I guess Oculus Rift has a cable attached to it?
[01:58:54] <takyon> I never bothered to find out
[02:00:20] <SpallsHurgenson> I can see all those users twirling 'round 'n' 'round 'n' 'round... until they drop dead from asphyxiation, having strangled themselves with the cord wrapped around their necks :)
[02:00:51] <chromas> You just need to hook it to a laptop in a modified backback with water cooling
[02:02:06] <paulej72> attach a piece of butter toast to a cat's back and thow it up in the air.
[02:02:07] <takyon> $600 to get jacked into the matrix, what a ripoff
[02:02:46] <SirFinkus> "jacked" is the right word
[02:02:47] <SpallsHurgenson> don't forget the $350 video card :)
[02:02:57] <SpallsHurgenson> and the $100 power supply :)
[02:03:55] <cmn32480> I';m sorry.. Hexchat stopped scrolling right around "why shoudl I let my cat lick my asshole?"
[02:03:57] <cmn32480> I think
[02:04:01] <paulej72> 161 and now in May
[02:04:03] <cmn32480> I'm a touch frightened...
[02:04:34] <SirFinkus> hey, not my fault
[02:04:50] <paulej72> hexchat on a mac scrolls soooooo pooooorly
[02:04:50] <cmn32480> I compltely disagree
[02:05:15] <SirFinkus> go back and read the logs, it clearly wasn't my fault
[02:05:32] <SirFinkus> save yourself some trouble and just use textual or limechat
[02:14:39] <Deucalion> hexchat on linux scrolls terribly too... grab the scroll bar lozenge, move 1mm... ohh now we're back in July 2015... mouse scroll wheel works ok though, probably end up with RSI or something though. Would be nice to be able to click in the channel window and just use the cursor keys to scroll up n down
[02:17:01] <cmn32480> I musta scrolled and ti stopped adn didn't pick up the auto scroll.
[02:17:09] <cmn32480> generally it works reasonably well
[02:17:21] <Deucalion> cmn32480, good luck on that hovercraft thing :P
[02:17:44] <cmn32480> hovercraft thing?
[02:17:49] <cmn32480> I missed something
[02:17:51] <Deucalion> HL2
[02:17:55] <cmn32480> ahhhh
[02:18:00] <cmn32480> I finished it the other day
[02:18:13] <cmn32480> Playing HL2:Episode One
[02:18:22] <cmn32480> I rather enjoyed the hovercraft
[02:19:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, have you given consideration to the page up/page down keys?
[02:19:31] * Deucalion looks at Steam... how many HL variants are awaiting me? ye gads.
[02:20:04] <Deucalion> I enjoyed the hovercraft / swamp boat for the first few minutes... then it went on and on and on...
[02:20:17] <SirFinkus> only half life, half life2, hl2 ep1 and hl2 ep 2
[02:20:55] <SirFinkus> note the lack of episode 3
[02:21:14] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, I have, but I'd like to go line by line not page by page :D
[02:21:44] <cmn32480> that has been noted Sirfinkus
[02:21:48] <cmn32480> and I'm OK wiht it
[02:21:59] <SpallsHurgenson> half life 3 was awful
[02:22:14] <SirFinkus> it was supposed to be release like 7 years ago
[02:22:37] <paulej72> 100 items and all I can move for now.
[02:24:02] <SpallsHurgenson> it definitely felt like a 7 year old game...
[02:24:17] <arti> hl3?
[02:24:28] <arti> hl2 was 2004
[02:24:29] * Deucalion has enjoyed XCOM - took some mental readjustment to get into the turn based thing.... it's like playing chess with aliens :D xD
[02:24:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i give up. gonna hit the sack a half hour early out of pure boredom
[02:24:50] <arti> rest well tmb
[02:24:52] <cmn32480> ~gnight buzzard
[02:24:53] * exec unjustifiably passes a blagoblag of boogers to buzzard
[02:24:54] <Deucalion> well fuck you
[02:25:03] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[02:25:04] <SirFinkus> don't let the cat lick your asshole
[02:25:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> cat's in OK still
[02:25:19] * cmn32480 makes a note to add that to exec's gday file
[02:25:22] <SpallsHurgenson> hl3 :)
[02:26:55] <chromas> Does shift-up/down scroll in hexchat?
[02:27:03] <chromas> (up/down arrow)
[02:27:31] <paulej72> yes
[02:27:33] <cmn32480> shift
[02:27:43] <cmn32480> up/down retypes
[02:28:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - LibreBoot Gets Support for a Micro-ATX Motherboard - http://sylnt.us - freeing-hardware-one-motherboard-at-a-time
[02:28:43] <paulej72> I ordered a new SSD for my lappy. I hope it will improve the boot times and other shit
[02:29:20] <SirFinkus> they're pretty awesome, as long as it's a good one
[02:29:35] <paulej72> Curcial M200
[02:30:01] <paulej72> 500 GB.
[02:30:03] <SpallsHurgenson> I put a samsung 850 evo in my netbook and drtopped my boot-to-usefulness times by half
[02:30:24] <arti> SSD are awesome
[02:30:49] <arti> single biggest component upgrade for responsiveness
[02:31:01] <arti> probably could've worded that better
[02:31:05] <paulej72> mine is a dog when it comes out of hybernation
[02:31:16] <paulej72> so I mostly just sleep it
[02:31:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I like the solid-stateness; I always hate wiggling the computer when the iron was spinning
[02:33:41] <paulej72> mine is a bit on the noisy side compared to what was orginally installed in it. The organal had a bad incident with a coffee tumbler tumbling donw on it
[02:34:20] <paulej72> tiny dent in the lappy case killed that dirve almost dead
[02:34:21] <SpallsHurgenson> a noisy SSD?
[02:34:28] <paulej72> good thing I had backups
[02:34:35] <paulej72> spinning rust
[02:34:51] <SirFinkus> I was actually considering writing a program that clicked the pc speaker on disk activity
[02:34:58] <SpallsHurgenson> oh. I was just about to suggest somebody sent you an hdd with an ssd label :)
[02:35:00] -!- Runaway1956 has quit [Read error: No route to host]
[02:35:06] <SirFinkus> I kind of miss that subtle indicator of heavy IO
[02:35:35] <Deucalion> chrome ass wins the internet again... shift-cursor... who knew? Well I did, twice, then I forgot, twice. /me considers rehab
[02:35:57] <paulej72> I love the drive lights on my win pcs. I really hated when apple ditched them on the macs
[02:36:22] <fliptop> paulej72: if you don't mind my asking, what'd you pay for the mx200?
[02:36:40] <SpallsHurgenson> I'd like my drive light if it wasn't a blazing white led that rivals the sun in brightness
[02:37:02] <SpallsHurgenson> (being lazy, I just slapped a tiny bit of gaffer tape over it :)
[02:37:03] <paulej72> 169 on amazon
[02:37:22] <fliptop> not bad, ingram micro has them for $163.50
[02:37:35] <fliptop> no msrp is listed either
[02:37:38] <paulej72> I had gift cards to burn
[02:37:42] <cmn32480> ingram is often not the cheapest gaem in town
[02:37:56] <fliptop> yeah but when you need it on 30-days net...
[02:38:05] <cmn32480> hell yues
[02:38:29] <fliptop> or if you need 500 of them
[02:38:34] <fliptop> on 30 days net
[02:39:17] <cmn32480> they only show 392 in stock... you are out of luck on the qty....
[02:39:51] <cmn32480> and your ingram price is a few dollars better than mine
[02:39:53] <fliptop> i used to use synnex too but they pissed me off
[02:40:04] <cmn32480> we use them pretty rarely
[02:40:28] <fliptop> i lost my account rep that i had for many years and it was downhill after that
[02:40:51] <cmn32480> I think I ordered from synnex once in the last 5 years
[02:41:10] <cmn32480> and that was becasue they beat ingram by like 10% on some HP switches
[02:41:39] <fliptop> truthfully, back then i sorta got tired shopping both places for the better prices
[02:42:04] <cmn32480> i just spec'd the part number... up to the rep to find the price between distributors
[02:42:51] <fliptop> i did sell a lot of lcd tvs that i got from synnex, they had really good prices on them. plasma too
[02:44:54] <Deucalion> the drive activity light was the thing that tipped me off to ext4 being a bad thing on Western Dig drives.... drive goes to sleep, parks heads, filesystem journalling comes along and wakes up the drive, heads ramp back on... over and over every minute.... within a month the drive was way over its ramp on/off count for imminent failure. Even with no disk activity from the OS, the journalling was causing the disk to ramp the heads up and down wit
[02:44:54] <Deucalion> h nothing to write.
[02:45:00] <cmn32480> we deal mostly in barcode scanners, mobile terminals, and wireless backbones
[02:45:42] <cmn32480> so we deal only on the fringes w/ Ingram and synnex
[02:45:49] <fliptop> nod
[02:45:51] <cmn32480> most of our stuff coems from Scansource adn Bluestar
[02:45:58] <paulej72> that ture of most drives. set to have Windows overwrite the defauls of the drive settings. Other OSs do not
[02:46:09] <cmn32480> because they specialize in the stuff for our main business
[02:46:21] <fliptop> i get all my cases and power supplies from sourcecode, everything else is ingm
[02:49:23] <fliptop> Deucalion: WD doesn't have a utility to fix that?
[02:49:50] <paulej72> Windows only
[02:50:40] <paulej72> I had to set something on my WD on my Mac that sets the drive to the proper spin down at every boot
[02:51:13] <Deucalion> paulej72, I used wd3idle to stop the drives torturing themselves. Negates all power savings of course but damn those ramp on and off counts were insane.
[02:51:38] <paulej72> yep saw the same thing on my Mac
[02:52:37] <Deucalion> Oh here it is http://idle3-tools.sourceforge.net At your own risk of course... worked for me a few years back, no idea if they work with newer drives.
[02:52:38] <cloudshark> ^ 03idle3-tools
[02:53:27] <fliptop> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au
[02:53:28] <cloudshark> ^ 03WD Green Drives - BUYER BEWARE - Storage - Desktops
[02:53:36] * cmn32480 mutter something about being happy he runs windows then ducks
[02:53:57] <paulej72> I never get the green drives, Reds, blues or blacks
[02:54:29] <fliptop> makes me want to hug a tree, right before i cut it down
[02:55:29] <Deucalion> Are the Reds the so called NAS drives? i.e the drives that are really shit and fail all QA so get downrated to 5400 rpm? :D
[02:56:02] <Deucalion> Hmm or are the NAS drives the Purples.... I forget
[02:56:17] <cmn32480> Red is NAS
[02:56:21] <cmn32480> not sure what purple is
[02:56:31] <paulej72> no I think they are suspposed to be better purples are the video drives
[02:56:33] <cmn32480> Gold is the new Hot Swap Enterprise drive
[02:57:18] <chromas> http://www.wdc.com
[02:57:18] <cloudshark> ^ 03Internal Hard Drive Overview
[02:57:21] <paulej72> reds are set not to spin down as much and cause problems with RAIS
[02:57:25] <chromas> Click a type then it gives you a table o' colors
[02:58:30] <Deucalion> Purple are CCTV storage apparently.... I mean really... what does that even mean... ideal for continuous storage... wtf does a HDD care what application is storing data on it.. marketing BS I say.
[02:59:27] <paulej72> I run Raid 1 in my office machines so I like the reds when I load them up with dual 2 TB jobbies
[03:00:05] <paulej72> Deucalion: shit at random access is how I read the purple prose
[03:01:01] <fliptop> looks like you get an extra year warranty w/ purple
[03:01:43] <paulej72> reds are 3 year same as purple
[03:04:41] <paulej72> although i have not done a warranty replacement of a drive in years, mostly as it has been a pain in the neck to do a the work and give them a credit card
[03:05:29] <cmn32480> black
[03:05:32] <cmn32480> always black
[03:05:34] <cmn32480> 5 years
[03:05:47] <cmn32480> once you go black... you never go back!
[03:05:49] <cmn32480> nograb'
[03:07:11] <Deucalion> I'm cynical of the whole power saving drives thing..... just spin it up and keep it spinning, keep the heads flying.... they don't use that much power and replacement or failure is such a time sink.
[03:08:49] <SpallsHurgenson> useful on a laptop
[03:09:38] <SirFinkus> it adds up if you have 400 of them
[03:09:48] <SpallsHurgenson> big laptop :)
[03:10:06] <SirFinkus> although I doubt they're used in datacenters
[03:10:16] <SirFinkus> maybe for things that aren't accessed very often?
[03:10:17] <Deucalion> But then one of my best mates Dad worked for ICL where they had disk packs running for 20+ years on some unix mainframe.... they got a power loss, those disks did not come back up, the bearings were toast... fine while in flight and balanced, once they stopped.... no restart, they were gone. /me is a luddite :D
[03:11:31] <cmn32480> I've heard the same type story on a novell server
[03:11:51] <fliptop> paulej72: i buy seagate, their warranty replacement procedure is pretty painless
[03:12:18] <paulej72> it should be their drives are shit
[03:12:18] <fliptop> i know they've received some bad press lately but out of the 1000's i've sold over the years only 2 have failed under warranty
[03:12:24] <Deucalion> fliptop, it should be, they do it often enough.
[03:12:55] <paulej72> when a drive dies at work, 90% are segates
[03:13:16] <fliptop> i dunno, they've been fairly reliable for me. i had problems w/ wd years ago and stopped using them
[03:13:44] * fliptop is wondering if the drives sold last year will fail this year
[03:13:58] <paulej72> for me wd were shit when they were 4 GB drives and smaller.
[03:14:41] <paulej72> although the WD green drives are shit no matter what. I had two die sitting in a box
[03:14:48] <Deucalion> Haven't they all amalgamated into one by now? Hitatchi is Seagate is WD is IBM... I lose track of any competition in the spinning rust space
[03:16:44] <cmn32480> seagate and WD are different companied
[03:16:49] <cmn32480> that is about it
[03:16:57] <cmn32480> everybody else is pretty much owned by one of them
[03:17:41] <SpallsHurgenson> well, hitachi
[03:17:49] <SpallsHurgenson> and samsung
[03:17:53] <paulej72> OK time for me to rest. my tailbone is on fire. see you later all
[03:18:00] <Deucalion> No matter.... solid state is the way to go... at least there are no heads to crash when shocked... oh... you wanted a secure delete function, can't guarantee that... wear levelling and all... guess that is no different to bad blocks getting marked out ~shrug~
[03:18:44] <SirFinkus> full drive encryption is a must on ssds
[03:19:03] <SirFinkus> I think ata-erase works on them too
[03:19:29] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, you are too trusting.
[03:20:17] <SirFinkus> well, I'm not saying I wouldn't put a few rounds in them before throwing them away...
[03:20:42] <cmn32480> ~gnight paulej72
[03:20:43] * exec covertly offers a caravan of toilet water to paulej72
[03:22:09] <fliptop> SirFinkus: heh, my daughter is in town on winter break and asked me this week if i had any old drives she could shoot up
[03:24:13] * Deucalion introspects, decides overwatch and then sleep would be wise.
[03:24:33] <Deucalion> ~gnight all
[03:24:34] * exec dexterously cracks open a toilet bowl of glowballs for all
[03:24:52] <cmn32480> ~gnight Deucalion
[03:24:53] * exec diabolically passes a tinfoil hat of coffee to Deucalion
[03:32:36] -!- Runaway1956 [Runaway1956!~Hogwart@67.223.zrz.rgs] has joined #Soylent
[03:45:14] <fliptop> https://www.youtube.com
[03:45:15] <cloudshark> ^ 03Donald Trump’s First TV Ad - CONAN on TBS - YouTube
[03:45:30] <fliptop> if he'll get rid of the wind tube guys i'll vote for him
[03:55:28] -!- idetuxs has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
[03:56:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I'll have you know, I AM one of those wind tube guys; why does Donald want to take away my job?
[03:57:02] -!- idetuxs [idetuxs!~idetuxs@181.164.xqt.tg] has joined #Soylent
[04:08:59] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[04:09:01] * exec accidentally throws a used franger of bacon at #soylent
[04:12:35] <fliptop> l8r cmn32480
[04:12:50] <fliptop> sorry Spalls, those things are creepy
[04:16:02] <SpallsHurgenson> what do you have against good american waggling?
[04:17:22] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm a proud wind tube, just like my father before me. And my grandfather was a windsock!
[04:30:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lab-Grown Cartilage Could Help Nose and Ear Reconstruction - http://sylnt.us - farming-humans
[04:49:44] -!- idetuxs has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
[04:51:20] -!- idetuxs [idetuxs!~idetuxs@181.164.xqt.tg] has joined #Soylent
[04:57:57] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.zdnet.com
[04:57:58] <cloudshark> ^ 03How to block Windows 10 upgrades on your business network (and at home, too) | ZDNet
[04:58:07] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.huffingtonpost.com
[04:58:08] <cloudshark> ^ 03The Entire Observable Universe, Captured In One Stunning Image
[04:58:15] -!- SpallsHurgenson has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
[06:01:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Burglar Alarm Based on Quantum Entanglement - http://sylnt.us - entangling-burglars-in-quantums
[06:44:31] -!- julian [julian!~Julian@56-08-620-95.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #Soylent
[07:13:21] -!- julian has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]
[07:22:08] -!- fliptop has quit [Quit: ciao]
[07:32:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How 3-D Printing Threatens Our Patent System - http://sylnt.us - printster-will-be-the-new-napster
[07:40:43] <chromas> I thought the patent system threatened itself
[09:34:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What Does it Mean to Think and Could a Machine Ever Do it? - http://sylnt.us - something-to-think-about
[09:55:36] -!- Runaway1956 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
[10:10:08] -!- Runaway1956 [Runaway1956!~Hogwart@67.223.zrz.rgs] has joined #Soylent
[11:05:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rock-Solid GIMP 2.9.2 is a Major Leap Forward - http://sylnt.us - gratis-and-libre-alternatives
[11:17:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:17:12] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2053
[12:07:27] -!- idetuxs has quit [Quit: leaving]
[12:24:05] <chromas> enlightenment sets the environment variable PANTS=ON
[12:24:14] <chromas> probably to keep Spalls away
[12:36:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 14 Years of Censored News Coverage Denies Americans Context to Understand ISIL Attacks - http://sylnt.us - what-difference-does-it-make?
[13:20:37] <cmn32480> coffee++
[13:20:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2054
[13:29:46] -!- JamesNZ has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[14:07:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cancer Screening Has Never Been Shown to 'Save Lives,' Argue Experts - http://sylnt.us - better-than-nothing,-right?
[14:23:51] <chromas> But if we don't get screened then how will we get the drugs and radiation to make our hair fall out and give us that awesome decrepit look?
[14:26:43] <chromas> Plus it probably saves just as many lives as nsa spying and the tsa combined, even if you can't prove it ;)
[14:27:28] <nick> lol
[14:27:58] <nick> well how many times have you been killed by terrorists since the TSA came along?
[14:39:11] <Runaway1956> *sigh*
[14:39:17] * Runaway1956 is pissed
[14:39:32] <Runaway1956> My song was playing on the radio this morning.
[14:39:34] <Runaway1956> MY SONG
[14:39:51] <Runaway1956> I made it up myself, 40 years ago
[14:39:51] <nick> ...
[14:39:56] <Runaway1956> I sing it all the time
[14:40:11] <Runaway1956> someone heard it, and they stole it, and they're making money off of MY SONG!
[14:40:32] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[14:40:32] <cloudshark> ^ 03Look at my Enormous Penis Lyric Video - YouTube
[14:41:24] <Runaway1956> I need compensation
[14:42:39] <nick> find the lawyers that the Marvin Gaye estate used against Pharrell and Robin Thicke
[14:42:56] <Runaway1956> Sounds like a plan, nick
[14:45:04] <nick> hope you didn't mind the small changes i made to your '14 years...' story
[14:45:57] <Runaway1956> I just sat down - I read the comments first, didn't even read the published story yet
[14:46:34] <nick> i just took your disclaimer and moved it to the start of the story, changed the wording a little
[14:46:40] <Runaway1956> N1 kinda opens my eyes a little
[14:46:45] * nick is n1
[14:46:57] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhhhh, didn't realize that
[14:47:02] <nick> :)
[14:47:12] <Runaway1956> I was re-reading your comments
[14:47:27] <nick> was wondering if i went a bit of the deep end with them
[14:47:36] <nick> but ive reread a couple of times, and i'm still pretty happy with the content
[14:47:58] <Runaway1956> Long time ago, it seemed that the Brits really knew what was happening in the world, despite the fact that Americans were happy being ignorant
[14:48:10] <Runaway1956> These days, it seems the Brits have joined us in our ignorance.
[14:48:29] <Runaway1956> There's no longer a huge difference in British and American reporting
[14:48:32] <nick> not sure about that, being 'british'?
[14:48:58] <nick> speaking to the older members of family and such, there's not much understanding really
[14:49:00] <Runaway1956> as evidenced by the conspiracy between Bush and Blair being pushed so hard on both sides of the Atlantic
[14:49:22] <Runaway1956> You're saying I gave the Brits to much credit?
[14:49:35] <nick> well, if anything, the closeness of bush and blair, is an example of how little choice the current democratic process really represents
[14:49:51] <nick> gwb is supposed to represent a right wing conservative america
[14:49:55] <Runaway1956> Yep . . .
[14:50:02] <nick> blair was from the party of union workers and liberals
[14:50:34] <nick> from a political heritage of the left that doesn't even exist in the US that i'm aware of
[14:50:35] <Runaway1956> And, all the parties only give lip service to their alleged positions
[14:50:58] <nick> they all agree on the important things
[14:52:01] <nick> monetary policy and frequent military engagements are not really in dispute
[14:52:14] <nick> the rhetoric is a little different, but the ends are much the same
[14:53:17] <nick> my grandparents are quite certain that if Labour ever got in again, they'd try to kill off all the pensioners
[14:53:47] <nick> no evidence of this, no parties go after the largest voter base
[14:54:24] <nick> never done it before, and if anything, the opposite with all the spending the previous labour government did
[14:54:26] <Runaway1956> True - and "baby boomers" are going to remain a large base for another - ohhhh - fifteen years.
[14:55:31] <nick> as i've brought up before, in this channel, my dad think of himself as a socialist, but he's not... just out of the two labels, it seemed to fit the best around the exposure he got.
[14:56:24] * chromas sets up the (coin-operated) death panels
[14:56:26] <nick> i dont have any reason to suggest any generation is more aware than any other
[14:56:42] <Runaway1956> Labels - we have to choose one when we register to vote. I hated both of the main parties, so I selected "Independent".
[14:57:10] <nick> and i understand why, it takes a lot of time to actually get to grips with history and the fact that key events in history did not happen in isolation
[14:58:11] <nick> i considered an independent vote for the last election, but was warned off it due to the importance of the election the the nations stability due to another coalition
[14:58:24] <nick> so i should vote for the same party that's been in control of this area for over 100 years
[14:58:33] <nick> because it's worked out so super until now
[14:59:13] <Runaway1956> Well, here, "independent" doesn't really have a party - it's just what the term means in the dictionary.
[14:59:15] <nick> i didn't vote in the end, but when no one represents you, the lesser evil is still quite evil and a lesser evil only continues down the wrong path every time, just subjectively slower perhaps
[14:59:49] <nick> yeah, i understand that. there's a lot of parties here, but none really matter, just a different colour tie
[15:00:27] <nick> so entrenched in a two party system, and having no debate over anything important
[15:01:00] <nick> charlie brooker's 2015 wipe showed me an interesting point.. when PM Dave C make a point about a policy or an agenda
[15:01:11] <nick> he usually finishes the statement with "because it's the right thing to do"
[15:01:37] <nick> and then probably walks off before anyone can ask him a question
[15:02:28] <nick> but what can you expect from a PR man who became a politician.
[15:03:10] <Runaway1956> Probably as much as a community organizer
[15:05:16] <nick> i hope my comments on your story get at least a couple people thinking a bit more broadly about current conflicts and the general state of geopolitics and media involvement in it
[15:05:37] <Runaway1956> Hungry - gotta see if the wife is cooking anything today . . . . probably have to cook for myself.
[15:06:12] <nick> should probably go be tangibly productive myself...
[15:06:15] * nick hat tip
[15:24:11] -!- richardboegli has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[15:25:56] -!- richardboegli [richardboegli!~r@898-18-87-46.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #Soylent
[15:38:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How to Avoid Idea Averaging When Brainstorming - http://sylnt.us - fight-it-out-in-the-arena
[15:59:25] -!- richardboegli has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[17:16:21] -!- Cyprus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[17:20:58] -!- Cyprus [Cyprus!~ikiris@216.239.mm.is] has joined #Soylent
[17:40:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tensions Rise in Germany Over Handling of Mass Sexual Assaults in Cologne - http://sylnt.us - such-a-thing-as-too-tolerant
[17:59:20] -!- SoyCow4784 [SoyCow4784!~3f608ecd@63.96.ovw.nnr] has joined #Soylent
[17:59:28] -!- SoyCow4784 has quit [Client Quit]
[18:37:45] -!- q__koneinuum [q__koneinuum!~qkontinuu@ji0su8cr7.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #Soylent
[18:44:07] -!- q__koneinuum [q__koneinuum!~qkontinuu@ji0su8cr7.dyn.telefonica.de] has parted #Soylent
[18:44:42] -!- q__kontinuum [q__kontinuum!~qkontinuu@ji0su8cr7.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #Soylent
[18:54:45] -!- fliptop [fliptop!~fliptop@67.231.zpp.nw] has joined #Soylent
[18:55:59] <fliptop> anyone know what to make of this?
[18:56:02] <fliptop> http://news.softpedia.com
[18:56:03] <cloudshark> ^ 03Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT Single-Board Computer Developed by Mozilla
[18:56:59] <fliptop> a month ago:
[18:57:02] <fliptop> https://soylentnews.org
[18:57:03] <cloudshark> ^ 03SN article: Mozilla to Cease Development of Firefox OS 04(26 comments)
[18:58:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> fliptop: I've concluded that Mozilla no longers cares about their user base, and therefore the best path is to ignore them as completely as you can.
[18:59:41] <mechanicjay> AndyTheAbsurd++
[18:59:41] <Bender> karma - andytheabsurd: 14
[19:02:52] <fliptop> AndyTheAbsurd: perhaps, although they did help me fairly quickly w/ the mp4 bug issue i had recently
[19:03:21] <Gravis> fliptop: they grasping at straws in a feeble attempt to save themselves.
[19:03:36] <Gravis> fliptop: though it's really whatever the execs say, not the minion
[19:03:37] <Gravis> s
[19:03:49] <fliptop> wow, the writing is on the wall for you guys, huh?
[19:04:16] <Gravis> fliptop: has been for quite some time
[19:04:44] <Gravis> fliptop: unless they refocus on actually making something people want, they are finished.
[19:05:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> Not merely "on the wall" for me - I don't use any Mozilla products (at least not directly) currently.
[19:05:24] <Gravis> same
[19:05:45] <Gravis> i like chromium
[19:05:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> I do use Pale Moon as my browser, which is forked from Firefox, but it's diverged so far it's not really fair to call it a branch of Firefox.
[19:07:15] <Gravis> fliptop: they basically squandered what makes them unique and then did everything else worse.
[19:07:20] <mechanicjay> I was running PaleMoon for about 6 months, gave it an honest shot, but ran into really bizare random crashes and recently gave up on it.
[19:07:35] <Gravis> fliptop: so mozilla is finished
[19:08:30] <Gravis> fliptop: do you think otherwise?
[19:08:33] <nick> i'd say mozilla is fading into obscurity and irrelevance
[19:08:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> I just asked in the Pale Moon IRC channel: Who here is convinced that Google is bribing Mozilla insiders to deliberately destroy Firefox?
[19:09:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> There's only a few active users right now but they all seem to think it's likely.
[19:09:51] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: that would be insideous but stupidity seems more likely than malice.
[19:11:09] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: it would have to be a shitload of money, programmers generally like making cool stuff.
[19:11:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Downton Abbey's Julian Fellowes Pioneers New App-Based Format for Novel - http://sylnt.us - whats-old-is-new-again
[19:11:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> Gravis: the people making these decisions are the programmers, they're Management.
[19:12:22] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: exactly why it's more likely to be stupidity ;)
[19:13:10] <cmn32480> ooooo this monitor gors to 2048x1152!
[19:13:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> for example, there's a bug in Mozilla's Bugzilla to remove FTP support from "platform" (which is the actual executable). I pointed it out on my local LUG's IRC channel, where one of the members works for Mozilla - he describe the person who entered the bug as his "great-great-great-grandboss" or something similar.
[19:14:18] -!- Runaway1956 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
[19:14:30] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: there is no question that management is sinking mozilla but managers are commonly clueless
[19:15:07] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: i would be surprised if it was intentional
[19:15:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yes, but they're generally clueless as to what can or can't be accomplished (either at all or in a reasonable timeframe). A manager asking for a feature to be *removed*? That's almost unheard-of.
[19:15:46] <fliptop> Gravis: i'm not sure how i feel, i install ff on every machine i sell and most people seem to like it
[19:15:47] -!- BadCoderFinger [BadCoderFinger!~BadCoderF@216.160.gyz.km] has joined #Soylent
[19:16:09] <fliptop> Gravis: but this development is troubling, to say the least
[19:16:37] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: they probably had retarded logic thinking it would speed up the browser.
[19:16:48] <q__kontinuum> AndyTheAbsurd: Managers have visions. That can account for nearly anything
[19:17:10] <mechanicjay> The pulled gopher support some time ago...bastards.
[19:17:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> q__kontinuum: possibly.
[19:17:30] <q__kontinuum> I'd think paying to sabotage Mozilla would be too risky for Google. If that came out publicly it would be a desaster.
[19:17:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> q__kontinuum: Also why are a different person from Q_Continuum on freenode?
[19:17:47] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: clearly you haven't dealt with many managers. :P
[19:18:09] <q__kontinuum> I usually spell myself with K as in kontinuum.
[19:18:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> The other Q_Continuum is Qlaras on soylentnews.org; I don't think he's ever been in this IRC.
[19:19:11] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: you also have the problem of managers with conflicting visions acting at the same time
[19:19:40] <q__kontinuum> AndyTheAbsurd: Hmm. Don't know that guy then. I'm https://soylentnews.org
[19:19:41] <cloudshark> ^ 03q.kontinuum - SoylentNews User
[19:19:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> Gravis: Yeah, *that* one I've been in the middle of.
[19:19:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> Manager A: We should be an agile shop!
[19:20:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> Manager B: Too many changes that go into production are causing problems, we need better change control!
[19:20:25] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: but q__kontinuum is right that it would be risky to sabotage mozilla because of the potential fallout
[19:20:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> Me: How the fuck are we supposed to be agile when it takes a minimum of a week to get a change into production?
[19:21:41] <q__kontinuum> AndyTheAbsurd: My topic at work... Implement a good CI system with good test coverage :-)
[19:22:32] <q__kontinuum> That's terribly agile, Manager A should love it
[19:25:54] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: so you can tell the pale moon people that managers working independently toward their vision are destroying mozilla, in the same way that congress critters are destroying congress.
[19:26:19] <Gravis> or rather 'Merica.
[19:26:33] <Gravis> ;)
[19:26:55] <q__kontinuum> Gravis: Wasn't that 'murica?
[19:27:09] <Gravis> q__kontinuum: eh, whatever
[19:27:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> q__kontinuum: I actually just got a recruiter reaching out to me because of the experience I got at that job...so I guess that's cool.
[19:28:58] -!- Runaway1956 [Runaway1956!~Hogwart@67.223.zrz.rgs] has joined #Soylent
[19:40:32] <fliptop> mozilla snafu story submitted, i suggest "from the whiskey-tango-foxtrot" dept
[19:58:41] <cmn32480> dropping a fart is a guaranteed way to get somebody to walk into your office....
[19:59:08] <cmn32480> it has happened twice today....
[19:59:37] <BadCoderFinger> cmn32480: I'd suggest more chili, then. Visitation will trickle off...
[19:59:49] <cmn32480> a fine idea!
[19:59:53] <cmn32480> BadCoderFinger++
[19:59:53] <Bender> karma - badcoderfinger: 8
[20:00:04] <SirFinkus> home made chex mix is better
[20:00:06] <SirFinkus> trust me
[20:00:29] <BadCoderFinger> Anything with soy in it will do, too.
[20:03:12] <cmn32480> dairy is my enemy
[20:06:07] <SirFinkus> it's the worchester sauce
[20:06:16] <SirFinkus> or however the fuck you spell it
[20:06:27] <SirFinkus> the stuff made from fermented fish guts
[20:06:28] <cmn32480> dairy worchester sauce?
[20:06:47] <SirFinkus> I meant in the chex mix
[20:06:58] <SirFinkus> it lends the farts a unique scent
[20:07:16] <SirFinkus> after I ate a shitton of chex mix once, my farts smelled so bad I nearly threw up
[20:07:25] <SirFinkus> I was retching
[20:07:31] <SirFinkus> that was my own scent too
[20:07:48] <cmn32480> so the moral of the story is: don't eat chex mix and then fart in the shower?
[20:08:12] <SirFinkus> these weren't even shower farts
[20:08:29] <q__kontinuum> SirFinkus: Put this on your desk: http://www.amazon.com
[20:08:30] <cloudshark> ^ 03Amazon.com: Fart Spray and Fake Turd-poop Combo Deal Prank Gag Joke: Toys Games
[20:08:45] <SirFinkus> why do that when I can have the real thing?
[20:09:15] <q__kontinuum> So people will think you have a weird sense of humor rather than farting all the time :-)
[20:09:49] <SirFinkus> if they aren't impressed by the smell of my farts, I don't want a relationship with them
[20:13:59] -!- julian [julian!~Julian@96-644-4-826.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #Soylent
[20:26:04] <cmn32480> !grab SirFinkus
[20:26:05] <Bender> Added quote 646
[20:27:35] <q__kontinuum> cmn32480: How can I access collected quotes?
[20:27:52] <SirFinkus> !quote 106
[20:27:52] <cmn32480> !quote sirfinkus
[20:27:52] <Bender> Quote 106 - <NCommander> Fuck
[20:27:52] <Bender> Quote 642 - <sirfinkus> did somebody say horse penis?
[20:28:22] <q__kontinuum> cmn32480: thx
[20:28:24] <cmn32480> !quote 601
[20:28:24] <Bender> Quote 601 - <bytram> well, his is certainly larger than mine.
[20:28:35] <cmn32480> !quote 645
[20:28:35] <Bender> Quote 645 - <SirFinkus> or if you lick a male cat's asshole enough
[20:28:43] <cmn32480> !quote 644
[20:28:43] <Bender> Quote 644 - <SirFinkus> rubbing my asshole with sandpaper
[20:28:48] <cmn32480> !quote 643
[20:28:49] <Bender> Quote 643 - <cmn32480> cover your nuts
[20:28:54] <cmn32480> !quote 642
[20:28:54] <Bender> Quote 642 - <sirfinkus> did somebody say horse penis?
[20:29:02] <cmn32480> !quote 641
[20:29:02] <Bender> Quote 641 - <SpallsHurgenson> for the porn, of course
[20:29:10] <cmn32480> !quote
[20:29:10] <Bender> quote <ID/search string>
[20:29:20] <cmn32480> !quote horse
[20:29:20] <Bender> Quote 489 - <SirFinkus> and I'm sure people are still fucking horses
[20:29:24] <Bender> Also in quotes: 617, 642
[20:29:26] <SirFinkus> !quote cmn32480
[20:29:26] <Bender> Quote 419 - <cmn32480> Sorry folks.. I'll be occupied the rest of the evening playing with my new appendages
[20:29:30] <Bender> Also in quotes: 420, 481, 496, 498, 507, 509, 535, 537, 544, 546, 566, 581, 588, 590, 604, 607, 613, 643
[20:29:46] <cmn32480> !quote 617
[20:29:46] <Bender> Quote 617 - <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, the "virgin" Mary loved to fellate horses. It's why jesus was born in a manger.
[20:29:56] <cmn32480> lol
[20:30:34] <cmn32480> !quote sirfinkus
[20:30:34] <Bender> Quote 642 - <sirfinkus> did somebody say horse penis?
[20:30:50] <cmn32480> !quote SirFinkus
[20:30:50] <Bender> Quote 161 - <SirFinkus> huh
[20:30:54] <Bender> Also in quotes: 162, 163, 164, 165, 253, 295, 306, 352, 399, 402, 407, 418, 453, 454, 489, 501, 502, 508, 521, 526, 527, 533, 534, 536, 556, 557, 559, 560, 562, 567, 574, 577, 585, 595, 599, 612, 616, 617, 619, 623, 626, 631, 632, 636, 638, 639, 644, 645, 646
[20:31:05] <q__kontinuum> Hm. Any way to query them outside this channel? Just opened a separate chat, but !quote doesn't show anything there. (Probably works per channel?)
[20:31:08] <cmn32480> apparently capitalization counts...
[20:31:17] <cmn32480> quote is a per channel thing
[20:31:31] <cmn32480> so doing it in #editorial will garner different results
[20:32:37] <q__kontinuum> thanks for explaining. Any chance to see a collection on a web-interface? Or to tell Bender to send them as /msg only to me? Don't want to spam the channel just to scan through them :-)
[20:33:20] <BadCoderFinger> q__kontinuum: You're going to see some things you can't unsee. Viewing the quotes is something you should not do sober.
[20:33:33] <SirFinkus> or ever really
[20:34:08] <cmn32480> I tink that TMB hasd put a web page that had a one-time snapshot of them together...
[20:34:11] <q__kontinuum> I think I can take it. There is a nearly full bottle of Bowmore in on the desk...
[20:34:12] <cmn32480> but I haven't a clue where
[20:34:17] -!- julian has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
[20:35:10] <cmn32480> adn remember... the first quote is 0 not 1
[20:35:25] <q__kontinuum> !quote 0
[20:35:46] <cmn32480> !quote 0
[20:35:46] <Bender> Quote 0 - <MrBluze> dumb question i know
[20:36:09] <cmn32480> you registered w/ nickserv?
[20:36:18] <cmn32480> !list
[20:36:18] <Bender> available plugins: admin, cfg, chan, chatlog, core, fleet, grabquote, ignore, irc, karma, koffie, lod, markov, more, plug, relay, soylentrss, sylnt, todo, twitter, uidchecker, urlinfo, user
[20:36:22] <q__kontinuum> no, don't think so
[20:36:35] <cmn32480> that might be the reason it didn't work
[20:37:17] <cmn32480> a lot of the bot functions are reserved to nicks that are registered w/ nickserv to prevent a bot being launched and spamming the shit out of the channel
[20:37:52] <cmn32480> some of exec's functions are set that way as well, though I think most of them are free and clear
[20:37:56] <cmn32480> ~fortune
[20:37:57] <exec> Today's scientific question is: What in the world is electricity?
[20:37:57] <exec> And where does it go after it leaves the toaster?
[20:37:57] <exec> -- Dave Barry, "What is Electricity?"
[20:37:57] <cloudshark> Karma - : -1
[20:41:16] q__kontinuum is now known as qkontinuum
[20:42:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft’s Cortana Gets Baked Into Cyanogen’s Forked Version Of Android - http://sylnt.us - keeping-relevant
[20:45:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> hmm, that's the one that I submitted to demonstrate that exec could do submissions, wasn't it?
[20:46:16] <cmn32480> prolly
[20:46:48] <qkontinuum> !quote 1
[20:46:48] <Bender> Quote 1 - <NCommander> DarkMorph, because whenever I have to touch hashref's I want to stab my eyes out
[20:47:20] <qkontinuum> cmn32480: You were right. I registered my nick (without the underscore), now it works
[20:47:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> !quote 2
[20:47:47] <Bender> Quote 2 - <hax0rz> highlights, gold, they shine
[20:48:02] <cmn32480> I'm not too surprised. Given the amount of stuff that Bender does, having him be completely accessible to everybody is a bit unwise.
[20:48:40] <cmn32480> exec has the same thing....
[20:48:43] <cmn32480> ~weather
[20:48:45] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 43°F / 6°C, cloudy, wind NE at 2 mph, humidity 82% - Friday cloudy (40°F:43°F / 4°C:6°C), Saturday cloudy (47°F:52°F / 8°C:11°C), Sunday rain (28°F:60°F / -2°C:16°C), Monday sunny (28°F:34°F / -2°C:1°C)
[20:48:50] <cmn32480> is accessible to all
[20:49:10] <cmn32480> but things like reload aare operator/admin only
[20:49:21] <qkontinuum> Makes sense
[20:50:16] <SirFinkus> hmm, what bot was battlestations?
[20:50:21] <SirFinkus> ~battlestations
[20:50:27] <SirFinkus> #battlestations
[20:50:27] <MrPlow> CoolHand Subsentient paulej72 stderr cmn32480 NCommander mechanicjay mrcoolbp Imogen TheMightyBuzzard zz_janrinok Azrael arti Deucalion Bytram|away nick takyon
[20:50:34] <SirFinkus> muhahahahaha
[20:50:51] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - can we restrict that?
[20:51:05] <cmn32480> #help
[20:51:05] <MrPlow> battlestations, blackuweather, bnk, default, dothis, find, help, join, klingon, newnick, part, perl6, ping, redtube, roll, seen, smake, smakeadd, socialist, submit, weather, weatheradd, whereis, youtube
[20:51:05] <SirFinkus> aww, that's no fun :(
[20:51:12] <cmn32480> #smake Sirfinkus
[20:51:12] * MrPlow smakes Sirfinkus upside the head with ð©
[20:51:22] <cmn32480> #smake Sirfinkus
[20:51:22] * MrPlow smakes Sirfinkus upside the head with foo"); drop table smakes;
[20:51:31] <cmn32480> #smake Sirfinkus
[20:51:31] * MrPlow smakes Sirfinkus upside the head with a facepalm
[20:51:32] <SirFinkus> there was a pingall too
[20:51:50] <cmn32480> #redtube horse
[20:51:51] <MrPlow> http://www.redtube.com
[20:52:01] <cmn32480> just for you Sirfinkus!
[20:52:10] <SirFinkus> seen it
[20:52:18] <SirFinkus> I recognize the URL
[20:52:35] <cmn32480> of course
[20:52:35] <BadCoderFinger> SirFinkus: That's a lot of numbers to remember...
[20:52:53] <SirFinkus> yeah, but sometimes I'm on a friend's computer and I don't have my bookmarks
[20:53:19] <cmn32480> as you can see... everybody came runnign with the battlestations call
[20:53:59] <cmn32480> ~list-auth
[20:54:00] <exec> ~q ~rehash ~ps ~kill ~killall ~dest-override ~dest-clear ~buckets-dump ~buckets-save ~buckets-load ~buckets-flush ~buckets-list ~restart ~ignore ~unignore
[20:54:00] <exec> ~bucket ~define-list ~define-source-edit ~define-source-param ~deop ~devoice ~eval ~event-test ~exec-add ~exec-del ~exec-irc-raw ~exec-save ~forward ~invite ~journals ~kick ~lockdown ~minion ~mode ~mysql ~op ~reader ~say ~slash-test ~soon ~sql ~startup ~tests ~topic ~users ~voice ~x
[20:54:16] <cmn32480> ~list
[20:54:16] <exec> ~list ~list-auth ~lock ~unlock
[20:54:16] <exec> systemctl ~! ~activity ~addr ~api ~aur ~cat ~cd ~cid ~civ ~comments ~confucius ~convert ~count ~cowsay ~deb ~define ~define-add ~define-count ~define-delete ~define-sources ~devs ~eds ~exec-issue ~filter ~filth ~first ~fortune ~g ~g'day ~g'night ~gday ~get ~github-add ~github-del ~github-feed ~github-list ~gnight ~google ~header ~header-login ~help ~isup ~jisho ~join ~last ~link ~links ~location ~log ~ls ~md ~mkdir ~moo ~nyse ~openthepodbaydoors ~part
[20:54:16] <exec> ~perl6 ~php ~queue ~quickpoll ~rainbow ~random ~rd ~rehash-issue ~remind ~rmdir ~scramble ~sed ~seen ~set ~shorten ~sizeof ~staff ~submit ~suggest ~suggest-api ~suggest-exec ~suggest-rss ~tell ~time ~time-add ~time-del ~title ~trans ~translate ~translate-sl ~uid ~unset ~up ~vote ~weather ~weather-add ~weather-del ~weather-old ~weather-prefs ~welcome ~wget ~wiki ~wiki-privmsg ~youtube ~yt
[20:54:31] <cmn32480> ~gday sirfinkus
[20:54:33] * exec covertly postulates a bucket of NCommander towards sirfinkus
[20:55:10] <SirFinkus> ~wget horseporn.exe
[20:55:11] <exec> syntax: ~wget url delim 1 <> delim 2
[20:55:35] <SirFinkus> ~wget http://www.nytimes.com
[20:55:36] <exec> syntax: ~wget url delim 1 <> delim 2
[20:56:07] <SirFinkus> ~wget http://static01.nyt.com
[20:56:08] <exec> syntax: ~wget url delim 1 <> delim 2
[20:56:08] <cmn32480> ~rainbow
[20:56:29] <SirFinkus> ~rainbow cmn32480
[20:56:30] <exec> 00,02c00,06m00,04n00,07300,08200,09400,12800,02000,06
[20:56:46] <cmn32480> ~rainbow Sirfinkus
[20:56:47] <exec> 00,07S00,08i00,09r00,12f00,02i00,06n00,04k00,07u00,08s
[20:56:47] <qkontinuum> ~rainbow Thanks, lots of stuff to play with
[20:56:48] <exec> 00,09T00,12h00,02a00,06n00,04k00,07s00,08,00,09 00,12l00,02o00,06t00,04s00,07 00,08o00,09f00,12 00,02s00,06t00,04u00,07f00,08f00,09 00,12t00,02o00,06 00,04p00,07l00,08a00,09y00,12 00,02w00,06i00,04t00,07h
[20:56:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~rainbow this is gay as fuck and it's FABULOUS
[20:56:57] <exec> 00,02t00,06h00,04i00,07s00,08 00,09i00,12s00,02 00,06g00,04a00,07y00,08 00,09a00,12s00,02 00,06f00,04u00,07c00,08k00,09 00,12a00,02n00,06d00,04 00,07i00,08t00,09'00,12s00,02 00,06F00,04A00,07B00,08U00,09L00,12O00,02U00,06S
[20:57:12] <cmn32480> blame crutchy... he wrote it
[20:57:21] <cmn32480> ~queue
[20:57:23] <exec> *** SN submission queue: plenty - http://sylnt.us
[20:57:29] <SirFinkus> blame me, I started the rainbow text trend in ##
[20:57:39] * AndyTheAbsurd gives no fucks about people or things being gay.
[20:58:06] <SirFinkus> I doubt it, you'd probably care if your romantic interest was gay
[20:59:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> heh.
[20:59:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> She's not, though.
[20:59:30] <cmn32480> ~cowsay Bite me!
[20:59:31] <exec> __________
[20:59:31] <exec> < Bite me! >
[20:59:31] <exec> ----------
[20:59:32] <exec> \ ^__^
[20:59:32] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[20:59:32] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[20:59:33] <exec> ||----w |
[20:59:34] <exec> || ||
[21:00:05] <BadCoderFinger> ~cowsay Milk me!
[21:00:06] <exec> __________
[21:00:06] <exec> < Milk me! >
[21:00:06] <exec> ----------
[21:00:07] <exec> \ ^__^
[21:00:07] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[21:00:08] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[21:00:09] <exec> ||----w |
[21:00:09] <qkontinuum> cmn32480: Is it possible to send it to a bot via /msg, as to hide who initiated it?
[21:00:10] <exec> || ||
[21:00:36] <SirFinkus> why would you want to do that, friendo :^)
[21:00:54] <cmn32480> dunno.. I got it in a PM when I jsut tried it
[21:00:57] <BadCoderFinger> Don't hide your inner antagonist!
[21:01:17] <qkontinuum> Just curious. Yes, I tried as well, also got it in PM
[21:01:35] <cmn32480> exec ~cowsay dunno
[21:04:09] <cmn32480> qkontinuum - MrPlow responds to #<command>, Bender is !<command>, exec is ~<command>
[21:04:23] <cmn32480> $burrito sirfinkus
[21:04:23] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at sirfinkus
[21:04:32] <cmn32480> aqu4 is $
[21:04:41] <SirFinkus> $help
[21:04:41] <aqu4> I'm a temporary aqu4bot until Subsentient's moving is complete and he can run servers again.
[21:04:41] <cmn32480> $help
[21:04:42] <aqu4> I'm a temporary aqu4bot until Subsentient's moving is complete and he can run servers again.
[21:04:55] <qkontinuum> ~help
[21:04:56] <exec> http://sylnt.us
[21:05:08] <cmn32480> you looking for the command list?
[21:05:14] <qkontinuum> yes
[21:05:21] <cmn32480> for exec it is ~list
[21:05:49] <qkontinuum> The link the bot sent is also not bad :-)
[21:05:59] <cmn32480> that'd be crutchy's fault
[21:06:09] <cmn32480> and that is also almost all the doc for the bot
[21:06:28] <qkontinuum> ~list
[21:06:29] <exec> ~list ~list-auth ~lock ~unlock
[21:06:29] <exec> systemctl ~! ~activity ~addr ~api ~aur ~cat ~cd ~cid ~civ ~comments ~confucius ~convert ~count ~cowsay ~deb ~define ~define-add ~define-count ~define-delete ~define-sources ~devs ~eds ~exec-issue ~filter ~filth ~first ~fortune ~g ~g'day ~g'night ~gday ~get ~github-add ~github-del ~github-feed ~github-list ~gnight ~google ~header ~header-login ~help ~isup ~jisho ~join ~last ~link ~links ~location ~log ~ls ~md ~mkdir ~moo ~nyse ~openthepodbaydoors ~part
[21:06:29] <exec> ~perl6 ~php ~queue ~quickpoll ~rainbow ~random ~rd ~rehash-issue ~remind ~rmdir ~scramble ~sed ~seen ~set ~shorten ~sizeof ~staff ~submit ~suggest ~suggest-api ~suggest-exec ~suggest-rss ~tell ~time ~time-add ~time-del ~title ~trans ~translate ~translate-sl ~uid ~unset ~up ~vote ~weather ~weather-add ~weather-del ~weather-old ~weather-prefs ~welcome ~wget ~wiki ~wiki-privmsg ~youtube ~yt
[21:06:36] * cmn32480 reminds himself to update exec before going home
[21:06:47] <exec> ~rainbow fart
[21:06:48] <exec> 00,04f00,07a00,08r00,09t
[21:07:44] <exec> (__)
[21:07:44] <exec> (oo)
[21:07:45] <exec> /------\/
[21:07:45] <exec> / | ||
[21:07:46] <exec> * /\---/\
[21:07:47] <exec> ~~ ~~
[21:07:48] <exec> ..."Have you mooed today?"...
[21:09:41] <qkontinuum> Who made exec do that? And how? ~rainbow fart should only print the coloured "fart"
[21:10:02] <cmn32480> chromas or crutchy I'd guess
[21:10:29] <qkontinuum> How is that done? Only with OP?
[21:10:49] <cmn32480> dunno
[21:10:54] <cmn32480> I'm his op
[21:13:18] <cmn32480> it was chromas
[21:13:34] <cmn32480> I have access to exec's console.
[21:18:18] <cmn32480> I'm not sure how he did it, honestly../ I;m his host. Chromas and crutchy are admins, and crutchy is the developer
[21:19:05] <crutchy> ~lock
[21:19:06] <exec> syntax: ~lock <alias>
[21:19:14] <crutchy> oops
[21:19:21] <crutchy> there's one to redirect stuff
[21:19:24] <crutchy> fiik what it is
[21:19:34] <cmn32480> RTFSC?
[21:19:46] <crutchy> heh. yeah i think that's what i gotta do
[21:19:59] <cmn32480> lol
[21:20:17] <chromas> \~dest-override
[21:20:19] <crutchy> ah
[21:20:23] <crutchy> ~dest-override
[21:20:24] <exec> syntax: ~dest-override <dest>
[21:20:45] <crutchy> i couldn't see in in the ~list output cos it's in ~list-auth
[21:21:17] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:21:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2055
[21:23:16] <qkontinuum> coffee--
[21:23:16] <Bender> karma - tea: 522
[21:23:41] <qkontinuum> WTF? coffee-- ==> tea?
[21:23:52] <crutchy> it was hax0rd
[21:23:59] <crutchy> tmb maybe?
[21:24:17] <cmn32480> crutchy++ #and before coffee!
[21:24:17] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 185
[21:24:38] <crutchy> after the great Tea Party Revolt back before 1000
[21:24:41] <exec> 00,09y00,12o00,02u00,06r00,04 00,07m00,08o00,09m
[21:24:48] <cmn32480> it does work
[21:25:11] <BadCoderFinger> cmn32480: That looks like it will never ever get abused!
[21:25:15] <cmn32480> thank god it is admin adn op only
[21:25:29] <cmn32480> so only a small number of people can use it
[21:25:44] <crutchy> s/use/abuse/
[21:25:46] <crutchy> :D
[21:25:55] <cmn32480> wtf no sed?
[21:26:02] <cmn32480> ~sed on
[21:26:03] <exec> sed enabled for 10#Soylent
[21:26:13] <crutchy> oh i just forgot to prefix with your nick
[21:26:22] <cmn32480> oh
[21:26:24] <crutchy> cmn32480, s/d/x/
[21:26:24] <cmn32480> ~sed off
[21:26:26] <exec> sed disabled for 10#Soylent
[21:26:30] <crutchy> cmn32480, s/d/x/
[21:26:30] <sedctl> <crutchy> <cmn32480> ~sex off
[21:26:40] <cmn32480> I'm married
[21:26:45] <cmn32480> that happened YEARS ago
[21:26:56] <crutchy> hahaha yeah me too
[21:27:02] * crutchy cries :p
[21:27:27] <cmn32480> {{{{{{cruthcy}}}}}}
[21:27:32] <cmn32480> but not in a gay way
[21:27:42] <cmn32480> nograb
[21:27:53] <crutchy> heh. its ok you didn't use rainbow at least
[21:28:18] <exec> 00,09{00,12{00,02{00,06{00,04{00,07{00,08c00,09r00,12u00,02t00,06c00,04h00,07y00,08}00,09}00,12}00,02}00,06}00,04}
[21:28:25] <cmn32480> better?
[21:28:53] <crutchy> now i'm only a little creeped out :p
[21:29:05] <cmn32480> exec loves you
[21:29:10] <cmn32480> you did create him, after all
[21:29:42] <crutchy> robot_love++
[21:29:42] <Bender> karma - robot_love: 1
[21:30:47] <qkontinuum> http://futurama.wikia.com
[21:30:48] <cloudshark> ^ 03Robosexuality - Futurama Wiki - Wikia
[21:31:43] <qkontinuum> Where can I find the source code of these plugins (if at all)?
[21:33:18] <fliptop> damn, dow is down another 1% today, over 6% since 1/1
[21:33:24] <crutchy> sylnt.us/execsrc
[21:33:30] <crutchy> derp
[21:33:35] <crutchy> http://sylnt.us
[21:33:36] <cloudshark> ^ 03crutchy-/exec-irc-bot · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[21:33:45] <fliptop> and i'm heading to cabela's
[21:34:06] <cmn32480> !woop
[21:34:06] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[21:34:11] <qkontinuum> crutchy: Thanks
[21:34:33] <cmn32480> qkontinuum - good luck with that
[21:35:40] <qkontinuum> could it be a bit big?!? 24MB and counting?
[21:35:46] <cmn32480> yes
[21:35:49] <cmn32480> and it is
[21:35:55] <cmn32480> I tihnk it is 28MB?
[21:36:19] <cmn32480> zipped is like 7
[21:36:40] <crutchy> there's some compiled shit in there that might be biggering it
[21:36:59] <crutchy> delphi dcu and exe files
[21:37:06] <qkontinuum> Receiving objects: 100% (7810/7810), 36.10 MiB
[21:37:12] <BadCoderFinger> crutchy++ for "biggering"
[21:37:12] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 186
[21:38:03] -!- fliptop has quit [Quit: ciao]
[21:38:15] <cmn32480> I haven't pulled all the new delphi stuff
[21:39:46] <BadCoderFinger> crutchy: I'm going to start using "biggering" in commit messages at work!
[21:40:06] <crutchy> hah
[21:40:33] <crutchy> my commit messages are already full of awesomeness
[21:40:56] <cmn32480> they as good as your comments?
[21:42:06] <crutchy> hmm. they are probably about as informative as my (lack of) comments :p
[21:43:03] <crutchy> my commit messages at work are more informative though
[21:48:36] -!- JamesNZ [JamesNZ!~JamesNZ@60.234.vml.gj] has joined #Soylent
[21:55:05] <cmn32480> ~restart
[21:55:35] <cmn32480> ~reload
[21:56:10] -!- exec has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[21:56:28] -!- exec [exec!~exec@23.24.kp.ip] has joined #Soylent
[21:56:43] <cmn32480> well that was ugly
[21:57:02] * cmn32480 makes a note to kill the bot THEN reload the files
[21:57:29] <cmn32480> ah well
[21:57:33] <cmn32480> ~gday exec
[21:58:21] <cmn32480> ~gday exec
[21:58:22] * exec prematurely passes a blagoblag of milo to exec
[21:58:33] <cmn32480> ok. that's better
[22:11:49] <cmn32480> ~gnight everybody
[22:11:50] * exec brazenly drops a bucket of boogers on everybody
[22:11:53] <cmn32480> I'm heading home
[22:13:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EPA Confirms Claims That Neonicotinoids Pose Risk to Bees; Fails to Analyze Other Pollinators - http://sylnt.us - birds-and-bees
[22:14:49] <BadCoderFinger> Sooo, no damage to wasps, then? Crap.
[22:18:55] <chromas> and mosquit'rs
[22:21:18] <BadCoderFinger> We have mosquitos here, but luckily we also have bats.
[22:21:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> wasps and hornets can fuck off and die in a fire
[22:21:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> so can skeeters
[22:24:08] <crutchy> from the bee-keepers-lobby-is-working-hard dept.
[22:30:41] -!- crutchy has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[23:14:02] <Subsentient> $restart
[23:14:02] <aqu4> Be right back.
[23:14:03] <aqu4> New aqu4bot instance loaded. Rebuilding list of users in channels. Please wait...
[23:14:11] <aqu4> Restart completed.
[23:14:16] <Subsentient> $help
[23:14:16] <aqu4> Hi, I'm aqu4bot, version "baking", running on UNIX. I'm a bot written in pure C by Subsentient [http://universe2.us/]. My source code can be found at "http://github.com/Subsentient/aqu4bot/". Try the 'commands' command to get a list of what I can do, or try 'help cmd' where 'cmd' is a particular command.
[23:14:54] <qkontinuum> !quote 2
[23:14:54] <Bender> Quote 2 - <hax0rz> highlights, gold, they shine
[23:14:57] <qkontinuum> !quote 3
[23:14:57] <Bender> Quote 3 - <soulde> :D
[23:15:02] <qkontinuum> !quote 4
[23:15:02] <Bender> Quote 4 - <hax0rz> Hyper: go ahead, whatever your fetish is
[23:15:08] <qkontinuum> !quote 5
[23:15:08] <Bender> Quote 5 - <soulde> I have friends that are better bots than Bender
[23:15:15] <qkontinuum> !quote 6
[23:15:15] <Bender> Quote 6 - <mattie_p> 1 is an ongoing effort, and will not cease
[23:15:25] <qkontinuum> !quote 7
[23:15:26] <Bender> Quote 7 - <NCommander> Dopefish, I handed him a 3k page novel, then told him that was short for one of my posts
[23:15:39] <qkontinuum> !quote 8
[23:15:39] <Bender> Quote 8 - <hax0rz> in the internet, nobody knows you're a dog; nice try human ^^
[23:15:46] <qkontinuum> !quote 9
[23:15:47] <Bender> Quote 9 - <arti> National Lampoons - Ethanol Fueld Thanksgiving
[23:15:55] <qkontinuum> !quote 10
[23:15:55] <Bender> Quote 10 - <martyb> mattie_p: have interest in qa/test. I like the sound of editor, but my asbestos undies are of poor manufacture.
[23:17:01] <qkontinuum> !quote 11
[23:17:01] <Bender> Quote 11 - <arti> oh, are quotes working?
[23:17:04] <qkontinuum> !quote 12
[23:17:04] <Bender> Quote 12 - <hax0rz> arti: will i ever feel any special ^^
[23:17:11] <qkontinuum> !quote 13
[23:17:11] <Bender> Quote 13 - <landon> ok, all good
[23:17:13] <qkontinuum> !quote 14
[23:17:13] <Bender> Quote 14 - <Khyber> backed by physical asses, more like it.
[23:17:18] <qkontinuum> !quote 15
[23:17:18] <Bender> Quote 15 - <SpallsHurgenson> as a nerd, I am unfamiliar with this thing you call "sunlight"
[23:17:29] <qkontinuum> !quote 16
[23:17:29] <Bender> Quote 16 - <kobach> headaches--
[23:17:35] <qkontinuum> !quote 17
[23:17:35] <Bender> Quote 17 - <nobbis> and that ladies and gentlemen is how the nerd news website was abandoned and they setup a goat porn site instead
[23:19:48] <qkontinuum> !quote 18
[23:19:48] <Bender> Quote 18 - <FatPhil> I just tried to set via ssh my g/f's desktop image to that bacon in order to taunt her, but by command didn't work, and I ended up with it as my background image instead
[23:20:21] <qkontinuum> !quote 19
[23:20:21] <Bender> Quote 19 - <juggs> any minute now.... someone will say something dumb that sees them in the saddle....
[23:20:34] <qkontinuum> !quote 20
[23:20:34] <Bender> Quote 20 - <nobbis> vote early vote often
[23:20:37] <qkontinuum> !quote 21
[23:20:37] <Bender> Quote 21 - <SpallsHurgenson> that sounded cleverer before I actually said it
[23:21:07] <qkontinuum> !quote 22
[23:21:07] <Bender> Quote 22 - <BadCoderFinger> Ethanol-fueled: I'm not certain that's the answer to the "Prisoner's Dilemma"
[23:21:14] <qkontinuum> !quote 23
[23:21:14] <Bender> Quote 23 - <Konomi> swearing is there for when I need an extra run to climb up my pissed off ladder
[23:26:16] <mechanicjay> Those quotes provide a nice trip down memory lane.
[23:26:49] <qkontinuum> Yes... I intended to read them without spamming, but don't know how or where
[23:29:33] <mechanicjay> qkontinuum: all irc is logged: http://logs.sylnt.us
[23:29:34] <cloudshark> ^ 03#Soylent | Logs
[23:29:49] <mechanicjay> you could always parse those out for "grabs"
[23:33:18] -!- Runaway1956 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
[23:34:38] <qkontinuum> Hm. I can grep for "Quote d+", but this would only return those already quoted before...
[23:36:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> qkontinuum: grab the file, `grep -n "!quote"` (-n will get you the line number), then open the file in an editor that lets you jump to line numbers so you can scroll back to see what was grabbed.
[23:37:09] -!- Runaway1956 [Runaway1956!~Hogwart@67.223.zrz.rgs] has joined #Soylent
[23:40:02] <mechanicjay> the more entertaining stuff might be to grep for "nograb" and see what someone didn't want to be saved as a quote :)
[23:41:33] <qkontinuum> AndyTheAbsurd: Thanks, but shouldn't I grep for "!grab" to get all quotes?
[23:41:51] <qkontinuum> If I want to get everything which was quoted before, I could use
[23:42:01] <qkontinuum> grep -r "Quote " * | sed "s/.*<\/span>//" | sort
[23:42:33] -!- Runaway1956 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
[23:42:40] <qkontinuum> mechanicjay: Thanks, will give it a try (currently wget is still busy downloading)
[23:43:05] -!- Runaway1956 [Runaway1956!~Hogwart@67.223.zrz.rgs] has joined #Soylent
[23:43:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> qkontinuum: yeah I fucked up
[23:43:14] * AndyTheAbsurd blames lack of caffeine
[23:43:31] * qkontinuum give AndyTheAbsurd coffee
[23:43:39] <qkontinuum> coffee++
[23:43:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2056
[23:43:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> yuck
[23:44:01] * AndyTheAbsurd pours out the coffee and makes a rum+coke instead
[23:44:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Admits just how much it Spies on its Customers - http://sylnt.us - TANSTAAFL
[23:48:26] <takyon> probably my angriest submission on the crypto wars yet
[23:48:52] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[23:48:53] <cloudshark> ^ 03SN Submission by takyon: Another Secretive Meeting Between Lying Obama Administration Officials and Silicon Valley
[23:49:35] <BadCoderFinger> Wait, were there people who didn't believe that Microsoft was spying on them?
[23:50:37] <takyon> yeah this is some fud
[23:50:40] <takyon> look at that list
[23:50:42] <takyon> 2.4 billion questions asked to virtual assistant Cortana
[23:50:42] <takyon> 30% more Bing search queries per Windows 10 device versus previous versions of the OS
[23:51:03] <takyon> no shit! you search something and microsoft/google/yahoo knows?! WHOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAA
[23:51:07] <BadCoderFinger> Accidental, no doubt.
[23:52:09] <BadCoderFinger> When bing first appeared, I'd make sure to search for "Linux" twice a day for a while.
[23:52:32] <BadCoderFinger> "How to install Linux" "remove windows replace with Linux" that sort of thing.
[23:52:45] <takyon> script that shit
[23:52:56] <takyon> add in a random time delay
[23:52:58] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, curl was my friend!
[23:53:28] <BadCoderFinger> I set the user agent to some incarnation of IE6, heh!
[23:54:27] <BadCoderFinger> If I had used "Can we make the windows interface even worse?" then you could blame me for windows 8.
[23:54:45] <qkontinuum> AndyTheAbsurd: According to http://collabedit.com we have 509 quotes, but only 187 were ever read afterwards...
[23:55:16] <qkontinuum> So I will have to grep again using !grab and a script searching for previous mention of username now...
[23:57:13] <mechanicjay> iterate through the file, keep an associative array of username -> thing said. Update 'thing-said' each time something new is said. When you see a "grab username" print out the value of array['username']
[23:57:31] <mechanicjay> That should get you all quotes. Maybe not the most efficient, but it should be pretty easy to pull off.
[23:57:44] <mechanicjay> though I think arrays in bash are kind of a pain.
[23:57:49] <mechanicjay> IIRC
[23:57:49] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[23:58:06] <takyon> where da cloudshark
[23:58:12] <takyon> FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS
[23:58:50] <qkontinuum> mechanicjay: Yes, probably the easiest approach. Array in bash: Not a problem, I'll use python anyway.