#Soylent | Logs for 2015-12-28
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[00:01:15] <Deucalion> must be true then... it's on the internet after all
[00:03:52] <Deucalion> all I can recommend is to approach it with flamethrowers and grenades if you do not understand it or if it poses any challenge to your pre-conceived view of reality. Better safe than sorry AMIRIGHT?
[00:06:59] <Deucalion> ermagerd, I'm off for some horizontal time. Don't forget, your own worst enemy is in your own head. :D
[00:07:30] * Deucalion peace out
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[00:09:35] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> I missed the flamethrowers and grenades. I love flamethrowers and grenades.
[00:34:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Feeling Abandoned by Adobe? Check Out the Video Editing Suites for Penguins - http://sylnt.us - flying-penguins
[00:38:30] <SpallsHurgenson> that story looks familiar
[00:56:38] <chromas> vegas is better than premiere anyway
[00:56:57] <chromas> (though also non-loonix)
[01:06:09] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, it's not a real film editor unless it uses an exacto knife and sticky tape :) :)
[01:11:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, i think that's exactly what SN editors do...
[01:13:57] <SpallsHurgenson> what is this "eh-dee-tawr" thing of which you speak?
[01:15:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'what most of the guys with a + do when they run out of good pr0n
[01:15:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake cmn32480|away
[01:15:14] * MrPlow smakes cmn32480|away upside the head with a regex
[01:15:40] <crutchy> ooh nasty
[01:16:03] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm pretty sure they don't limit themselves only to "good" porn
[01:16:03] <crutchy> regexes are full of spikey bits
[01:17:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, and that's without even counting the *s
[01:19:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> screw this, i need booze
[01:22:45] <SpallsHurgenson> booze that, I need a screw
[01:27:48] <Gravis> for the lulz: https://soylentnews.org
[01:27:49] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:3, Funny)
[01:28:57] <crutchy> who wrote http://fuckbeta.com ?
[01:28:58] <NetCraft> ^ 03Fuck Slashdot Beta!
[01:29:10] <crutchy> that is just nasty
[01:30:33] <chromas> <sxcript type="text/javascript">
[01:30:45] <chromas> it's just a mispleling
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[01:32:07] <Gravis> crutchy: i'm pretty sure your mom wrote it
[01:32:11] <chromas> technocrat's pretty ugly
[01:32:47] <chromas> needs a css groping
[01:33:37] <Gravis> i find it that there are a lot of "portable" distros that barely fit on a CD
[01:33:48] <Gravis> find it sad*
[01:34:21] <chromas> CDs are still around?
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[01:35:04] <Gravis> chromas: and alive
[01:35:21] * chromas -> shocked
[01:35:24] <chromas> or
[01:35:27] * chromas << shocked
[01:35:37] <SpallsHurgenson> of course CDs are round; you can't call 'em a disc if they're square
[01:36:00] <Gravis> SpallsHurgenson: of course not, you would have to call them disks
[01:36:13] <crutchy> there are those rectangular business card cds
[01:36:39] <crutchy> though the data area is still round
[01:36:47] <SpallsHurgenson> the router I got the other day came with a mini-cd for its (useless) software
[01:39:13] <Gravis> "Damn Small Linux" is a full 50MiB. :/
[01:39:46] <chromas> barely fits on a CD
[01:39:48] <Gravis> it shouldn't exceed 10MB
[01:40:36] <Gravis> chromas: for something claiming to be "damn small" it's quite large
[01:40:45] <chromas> Still doesn't fit on a floppy
[01:40:59] <SirFinkus> http://www.menuetos.net small enough for you Gravis?
[01:40:59] <Gravis> true but linux never will
[01:41:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03MenuetOS
[01:41:05] <chromas> well it's only damn small, not goddamn small
[01:41:17] <Gravis> touche. :P
[01:41:24] <SirFinkus> 1.5M
[01:41:33] <chromas> didn't DSL used to fit on a floppy though?
[01:41:52] <Gravis> chromas: maybe
[01:43:09] <Gravis> i think it's ChibiOS that is 30KB
[01:43:31] <chromas> ew
[01:43:43] <chromas> sounds like something anime turds would come up with
[01:44:17] <Gravis> chromas: no, it's intended for use on MCUs
[01:44:25] <chromas> I was surprised to find that SirFinkus' most favoritest doesn't fit in a C64
[01:44:53] <chromas> Gravis: but the name
[01:45:06] <Gravis> /facepalm
[01:45:21] <Gravis> chromas: developers are rarely good at naming things
[01:45:33] <chromas> Do you have a dent in your head yet?
[01:46:16] <Gravis> nope. https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:46:16] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Yet another
[01:47:05] <Gravis> though recursive acronyms are just as bad
[02:04:32] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[02:06:19] <Gravis> here we go. /this/ is a small distro: http://tinycorelinux.net
[02:06:20] <NetCraft> ^ 03Tiny Core Linux, Micro Core Linux, 12MB Linux GUI Desktop, Live, Frugal, Extendable
[02:18:49] <Bytram> !uid
[02:18:49] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6006, owned by manwargi
[02:19:41] <Bytram> anagram(manwargi) = a warming
[02:20:12] <Bytram> anagram(manwargi) = warn magi
[02:20:48] <Bytram> anagram(manwargi) = warm gain
[02:24:46] * SpallsHurgenson cracks his knuckles
[02:31:02] <cmn32480|away> takyon++
[02:31:02] <Bender> karma - takyon: 13
[02:32:14] <Bytram> takyon++
[02:32:14] <Bender> karma - takyon: 14
[02:36:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hierarchy is Detrimental for Human Cooperation - http://sylnt.us - get-in-line
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[04:00:37] <cmn32480|away> submission queue is EMPTY
[04:00:45] <cmn32480|away> as in 0 subs for tomorrow
[04:00:51] cmn32480|away is now known as cmn32480
[04:01:10] * cmn32480 shakes the submission tin
[04:04:16] <SpallsHurgenson> shake it, cmn32480, shake it!
[04:04:35] <cmn32480> if I shake it clothes might fall off.
[04:04:47] <cmn32480> so you better submit somethign so I don't ahve to pimp myself out
[04:05:37] <SpallsHurgenson> what about http://betanews.com
[04:05:38] <NetCraft> ^ 03China passes law requiring tech firms to hand over encryption keys ( http://betanews.com )
[04:10:03] <SpallsHurgenson> or http://www.techspot.com
[04:10:04] <NetCraft> ^ 034K Monitors: Can you actually see the difference? - TechSpot
[04:10:55] <SpallsHurgenson> perhaps http://www.nytimes.com
[04:10:56] <NetCraft> ^ 03( http://mobile.nytimes.com )
[04:11:26] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe http://www.forbes.com
[04:11:26] <NetCraft> ^ 03Forbes Welcome ( http://www.forbes.com )
[04:12:46] <SpallsHurgenson> or if you like http://www.nytimes.com
[04:12:47] <NetCraft> ^ 03( http://mobile.nytimes.com )
[04:16:28] <SpallsHurgenson> then there's this: http://news.softpedia.com
[04:16:29] <NetCraft> ^ 03Microsoft's Search Engine Keeps Growing As Google Declines YOY
[04:17:04] <SpallsHurgenson> look at what I found! http://www.roadtovr.com
[04:17:05] <NetCraft> ^ 03HTC Wants to Bring Vive to 100M Chinese Internet Café Users
[04:27:37] <cmn32480> execellent spalls... send them in via exec
[04:28:02] <cmn32480> ~submit http://betanews.com
[04:28:13] <SpallsHurgenson> ooooh, do I get a cookie? I want a cookie! I LIKE cookies!
[04:28:18] <cmn32480> ~submit http://www.techspot.com
[04:28:29] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[04:28:41] <cmn32480> ~submit http://www.nytimes.com
[04:28:44] <exec> error: title not found or empty
[04:28:46] <exec> error: something went wrong with your submission
[04:29:00] <cmn32480> ~submit http://www.nytimes.com
[04:29:02] <exec> error: title not found or empty
[04:29:24] <cmn32480> ~submit http://www.nytimes.com
[04:29:26] <exec> error: title not found or empty
[04:30:03] <cmn32480> ~submit http://www.forbes.com
[04:30:30] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[04:30:50] <cmn32480> ~submit http://news.softpedia.com
[04:31:18] <exec> error: something went wrong with your submission
[04:31:37] <cmn32480> ~submit http://www.roadtovr.com
[04:32:00] <cmn32480> #submit http://news.softpedia.com
[04:32:00] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[04:32:05] <exec> error: something went wrong with your submission
[04:32:30] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[04:32:38] <cmn32480> #submit http://www.roadtovr.com
[04:32:39] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[04:33:09] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[04:33:20] <cmn32480> #submit http://www.nytimes.com
[04:33:21] <MrPlow> 302 Found
[04:35:38] <cmn32480> bah
[04:37:20] <SpallsHurgenson> you broke the internet!
[04:37:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 19-Hour "Standoff" Ends With Cops Destroying an Empty House - http://sylnt.us - we'll-teach-you-to-be-vacant!
[04:38:01] <cmn32480> yes
[04:38:05] <cmn32480> as per usual
[04:38:30] <cmn32480> ok 5 subs in the queue that I can deal with in the morning.
[04:38:51] <cmn32480> at least that'll give the rest of the community time to get their subs in before we run out of EVERYTHING
[04:38:57] <cmn32480> Thanks for the help Spalls!
[04:39:11] <cmn32480> I gotta get to bed.
[04:39:23] <cmn32480> ~gnight SpallsHurgenson
[04:39:24] * exec brazenly tosses a bucket of ciri poo to SpallsHurgenson
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[04:45:25] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> I never get cookies :(
[04:46:44] <chromas> #smake SpallsHurgenson a bag of cookies
[04:46:44] * MrPlow smakes SpallsHurgenson upside the head with a bag of cookies
[04:47:06] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, cookies and a concussion... just like on my last birthday!
[04:51:24] <SirFinkus> aw shit 503
[04:51:25] <SirFinkus> PANIC
[04:51:33] * SpallsHurgenson runs around screaming
[04:52:29] * SpallsHurgenson flails his arms about frantically
[04:53:26] * SpallsHurgenson gibbers and wails and then passes out
[04:57:19] * SpallsHurgenson cracks open an eye, "Was that enough panic?"
[04:59:44] <SirFinkus> not quite, I want heart attacks
[05:03:09] * SpallsHurgenson jabs a needle full of bacon fat into SirFinkus' chest then yells, "Boo!"
[05:04:23] <SirFinkus> is bacon fat an aids carrier?
[05:05:08] <SpallsHurgenson> not normally no, but if you really want I'll see what I can do :)
[05:15:10] * SpallsHurgenson continues to jab dirty needles into SirFinkus
[05:15:31] <SpallsHurgenson> (you can thank me later)
[05:21:43] <SpallsHurgenson> <jab jab jab>
[05:31:25] <JamesNZ> uwp--
[05:31:25] <Bender> karma - uwp: -1
[05:31:26] <JamesNZ> uwp--
[05:31:26] <Bender> karma - uwp: -2
[05:31:27] <JamesNZ> uwp--
[05:31:27] <Bender> karma - uwp: -3
[05:31:27] <JamesNZ> uwp--
[05:31:27] <Bender> karma - uwp: -4
[05:32:16] <JamesNZ> xaml--
[05:32:16] <Bender> karma - xaml: -4
[05:32:18] <JamesNZ> xaml--
[05:32:18] <Bender> karma - xaml: -5
[05:34:00] <SpallsHurgenson> so... I can tell you really like xaml
[05:34:46] * JamesNZ is venting
[05:35:35] <SpallsHurgenson> you ate too many beans, eh?
[05:35:40] <JamesNZ> Separation of code and GUI is all well and good, but does it really necessitate a whole other language?
[05:36:36] <SpallsHurgenson> we need even more seperations!
[05:36:38] <JamesNZ> UWPeans, yes :P
[05:36:59] * JamesNZ separates SpallsHurgenson from his pants!
[05:37:06] <SpallsHurgenson> too late!
[05:38:15] <SpallsHurgenson> oops... battery running low
[05:38:26] <chromas> time to switch to desktop
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[06:32:17] * mechanicjay grumbles at his laptop while firefox compiles...
[06:35:59] <Subsentient> mechanicjay: I never compiled firefox before. I compiled midori, and thus webkitgtk, but not firefox. How's the pain feel? Painful?
[06:39:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - antiX MX-15 Linux Released; Based on Debian 8.2 Jessie; Has Xfce 4.12 - http://sylnt.us - without-systemd-again
[06:45:05] <mechanicjay> Subsentient: it's a gentoo emerge so it's painless from a how to do it standpoint... it just takes hours and slows the machine to a crawl.
[06:45:24] <mechanicjay> Update for Thunderbird came through too....
[06:46:03] <Subsentient> mechanicjay: *2 hours later, "cannot convert const void* to void* -Werror" *dammit!*
[06:46:31] <mechanicjay> I compiled Firefox from source once or twice on a binary distribution once for whatever reason -- it was fine as far as setting up the build env. It just took freaking for ever.
[06:47:01] <mechanicjay> I will say though, that my 4-core Xeon workstation at work makes short work of it.
[06:47:50] <mechanicjay> My 7 year old Core2 Duo laptop however...
[06:50:50] <mechanicjay> I really dread when a LibreOffice update drops, I swear this thing takes like 12 hours to compile that beast.
[06:52:50] <Subsentient> mechanicjay: I couldn't do Gentoo for that reason. I run a homebrew called SubLinux. I compile everything from source, but I put my compiled apps in squashfs images and host them on my server so I don't have to compile them again.
[06:53:57] <Subsentient> I only recompile stuff when it has either a feature I need, or there's a security reason.
[07:01:46] <crutchy> *cough* debian *cough* :p
[07:24:13] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Don't get stoned! http://www.stonersloth.com.au
[07:24:13] <NetCraft> ^ 03Stoner Sloth
[07:25:56] <crutchy> reminded me of https://www.youtube.com
[07:25:57] <NetCraft> ^ 03Afroman - Because I Got High - YouTube
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[08:16:18] <crutchy> coffee++
[08:16:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2016
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[08:18:46] <crutchy> ~moo
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[08:19:01] <crutchy> ~weather
[08:19:02] <x> 11Traralgon VIC - currently 23°C, sunny, wind SE at 18 km/h, humidity 39% - Monday clear (9°C:28°C), Tuesday sunny (11°C:30°C), Wednesday sunny (16°C:36°C), Thursday partly cloudy (19°C:39°C)
[08:19:21] <crutchy> gah. warming up again this week
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[10:15:02] <JamesNZ> Man, UWP would be great if you could access more than half of WPF...
[10:15:10] * JamesNZ grumbles
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[11:20:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:20:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2017
[11:24:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[11:24:03] <MrPlow> Today: Windy...showers and thunderstorms during the morning hours, then skies turning partly cloudy during the afternoon. A few storms may be severe. High 71F. Winds S at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Tomorrow: Intervals of clouds and sunshine in the morning with more clouds for later in the
[11:24:03] <MrPlow> ..day. High 52F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph.
[11:24:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> #blackuweather
[11:24:11] <MrPlow> T'day: Dey some wetha, bring yo umbrella. Shit be aight. Dat shit be blowin! T'marra: Sheet, I ain even know. It fuck'n cold! Dey a lil breeze.
[11:32:05] <JamesNZ> \o TheMightyBuzzard
[11:32:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup, yo
[11:34:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> hows life in the land of sheeps n hobbits?
[11:49:13] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:49:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2018
[11:51:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup, crutchmeister
[11:51:32] <crutchy> not much
[11:51:41] <crutchy> you?
[11:52:00] * crutchy is working on a pascal irc bot and watching a bit of anime
[11:52:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> updating the system after being outa town for a week
[11:52:51] <crutchy> noice
[11:53:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> pondering some vidya
[11:53:06] <crutchy> all the xmas madness settled down a bit?
[11:53:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> drinking coffee
[11:53:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, now there's just the cleanup cause we left the house a mess then piled returning mess on top of it
[11:53:59] <crutchy> heh. still got a couple of bags of present wrappings to get rid of here too
[11:55:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> fucked off yesterday to unwind but today's gonna be an all day cleaning party
[11:56:51] <JamesNZ> TheMightyBuzzard: Sunny and warm \o/
[11:57:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> pondering setting up a funky, shiny compiz desktop for the new year
[11:57:51] <crutchy> ooh
[11:58:13] <crutchy> yay. just got mah bot connected to 2 servers at same time
[11:58:16] <crutchy> threading++
[11:58:16] <Bender> karma - threading: 1
[11:58:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh
[11:59:17] <JamesNZ> race_conditions++
[11:59:17] <Bender> karma - race_conditions: 1
[11:59:18] <crutchy> derp. sigsegv on exit though :/
[11:59:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> yah, it's easy to stick MrPlow on several servers at once or multiple times on the same server but i can't think of a reason why to bother
[12:00:38] <crutchy> got exec running on 2 servers, but its on 2 separate terminals
[12:01:13] <crutchy> looks like sigsegv was cos i was trying to access shit outside the thread
[12:01:17] * crutchy smakes self
[12:02:44] <crutchy> only started working on it last night so still early days
[12:03:30] <crutchy> though i had a delphi version i started that i pilfered bits n pieces from. using it as an excuse to get into freepascal/lazarus and away from delphi
[12:06:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> bot module i used does multi-instance itself so i don't gotter do that particular bit of thinking
[12:06:43] <crutchy> ah
[12:08:13] <crutchy> this might not replace exec anyway cos i haven't looked much into external process control, but looks like laz has some nifty components that might do the trick. will see i guess. exec evolved from next to nothing and its turned into a monstrosity
[12:09:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, ain't it fun
[12:13:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> right then. done upgrading and time to...
[12:13:14] * TheMightyBuzzard rolls the magic 8-ball of life
[12:13:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> have a smoke wins this round
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[12:23:39] <cmn32480> buzzard - when is the site upgrade supposed to happen
[12:24:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> looking like middle of jan at least.
[12:24:58] <cmn32480> ok
[12:25:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> someone asking?
[12:25:13] <cmn32480> just wondering when to take a LOA
[12:25:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> hehe
[12:25:24] <cmn32480> I'll start a day before... come back a week after
[12:25:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> shouldn't cause you any headaches, just me and pj
[12:26:16] <cmn32480> hmmmmm
[12:26:20] <cmn32480> I've heard that before
[12:26:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> still haven't found the %20/space bug btw
[12:27:24] <cmn32480> an interesting note, when a submission is put in via the website, I can change the name and the actual person whose name I put in (providing it is a real Username, gets the credit
[12:27:30] <cmn32480> ok
[12:27:33] <cmn32480> no worries
[12:28:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that's more or less by design for mergey reasons
[12:28:46] <cmn32480> I found it interesting. certainly not a bug
[12:29:24] <cmn32480> but oddly enough, it doens't work when submitting through MRPlow
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[12:29:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[12:30:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be because he doesn't log in
[12:31:08] <cmn32480> ahhhhh
[12:31:11] <cmn32480> that's probably it
[12:31:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd need to give him supah powas to let him submit as anyone but MrPlow
[12:33:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you find any brokenness in the stripe billing besides it using two digits for one-digit purchases?
[12:35:39] <Bytram> haven't been ale to look at it... still int he crazy busy season, sorry!
[12:36:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:36:37] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Why not register "MrPlow" as a nick on SN?
[12:36:39] <Bytram> =)
[12:36:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> Could, I spose.
[12:37:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> not today though. gotta do an insane amount of house cleaning today.
[12:38:14] <cmn32480> can we add a "-1 Douchebag" mod?
[12:38:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, everyone'd use it on me
[12:38:41] <Bytram> rather keep the list somewhat manageable
[12:38:46] <Bytram> lol
[12:39:21] <Bytram> If we *were* to entertain new mods, I could possibly be convinced that "-1 Ad Hominem" would be of value.
[12:39:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, that wouldn't suck
[12:40:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> combine Troll n Flamebait into Shit Stirring
[12:48:25] <cmn32480> how about just "-1 shithead?
[12:50:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> see above
[12:51:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't need to go confusing folks about which one to use on me. it's already bad enough they can't decide on troll or flamebait.
[12:53:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, i got an hour or two to kill before the roomie coffee's up enough to do stuff. guess i could make an account for MrPlow and make him log in.
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[13:48:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> #pissoff
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[13:49:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> #reload
[13:50:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh bleh
[13:50:05] <MrPlow> Reloaded
[13:50:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> #pissoff
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[13:57:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> #reload
[13:57:30] <MrPlow> Reloaded
[13:57:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> #help submit
[13:57:40] <MrPlow> Create a submission to soylentnews.org
[13:58:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://www.breitbart.com
[13:58:48] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[13:59:18] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
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[14:02:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> #reload
[14:02:09] <MrPlow> Reloaded
[14:02:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://www.breitbart.com
[14:03:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, it's not saving the cookie
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[15:46:33] <cmn32480> !uid
[15:46:33] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6007, owned by MrPlow
[15:46:37] <cmn32480> lol
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[17:45:56] <mechanicjay> This perl stack trace is the most useless thing I've ever seen
[17:51:31] <chromas> Did you switch to perl 6?
[17:55:16] <mechanicjay> no?
[17:55:27] <mechanicjay> no, it's whatever is on this ELbox
[17:56:12] <mechanicjay> the "program" is written is such a good way, that the entirety of a stack trace refrences the "Print the exception" helper function.
[17:56:27] <mechanicjay> God, this thing is a piece of shit
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[18:54:37] <cmn32480> Welcome back NCommander
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[19:34:50] <Gravis> 5555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555
[19:35:23] <Gravis> umm... and i stand by that statement!
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[20:22:59] <cmn32480> GD bad windows updates....
[20:27:42] <Gravis> cmn32480: lulz. you windows people are funny.
[20:28:14] <cmn32480> same as if there is a bad update to anythgin else
[20:28:17] <cmn32480> it happense
[20:28:56] <Gravis> keep telling yourself taht
[20:29:37] * chromas looks at the linux bug manager, finds it completely empty. Good job, open source!
[20:29:46] <Gravis> :D
[20:31:25] <cmn32480> How's that "Year of the Linux Desktop" coming, by the way?
[20:32:26] <Gravis> cmn32480: we're still negotiating with germany to get them to take back mr. poettering
[20:32:47] <chromas> poettering isn't a problem
[20:32:53] <chromas> oops, I mean "isn't problematic"
[20:34:08] <Gravis> chromas: no but his work it
[20:34:15] <Gravis> is*
[20:34:21] <chromas> nope
[20:34:27] <cmn32480> Systemd! The d is for Destruction!
[20:34:39] <chromas> Blame all the distros jumping to his software
[20:34:55] <Gravis> it's systemdeutschland
[20:35:28] <Gravis> chromas: i do. however, that's not going to solve anything.
[20:36:30] <chromas> What we need is one last solution to end it all
[20:37:05] * chromas starts gnustepping
[20:37:36] <Gravis> systemd addresses some problems that existed. i understand why people would want it. the solution is to properly address these issues without making megalithic software
[20:38:06] <chromas> fork it, G
[20:38:36] <Gravis> hell no, systemd is a megalith!
[20:38:42] <chromas> Split it up
[20:38:47] <chromas> or fork an old version
[20:39:01] <Gravis> i'm writing a proper solution
[20:39:14] <chromas> is it the last one we'll ever need?
[20:39:31] <Gravis> chromas: only if systemd is the last problem you'll ever have
[20:40:04] <chromas> You heard it, guys! With only a little word twisting, we can see Gravis is all for a Final Solution!
[20:40:33] <chromas> Are you writing your init in cpp?
[20:40:49] <Gravis> yep
[20:41:27] <chromas> hey, you could fork epoch and replace membus with a couple sockets :D
[20:42:03] <Gravis> chromas: no.
[20:42:16] <chromas> A socket for users and a privileged socket for other stuff
[20:43:38] <Gravis> you don't understand. messing with config files it too much. the solution is to let another program deal with config files and relay the derived information
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[20:44:55] <chromas> don't mess with the files then
[20:45:37] <Gravis> chromas: but if i want to fulfill the wishes of the people, config files need to be monitored for changes
[20:46:13] <Gravis> this isn't just for init stuff either
[20:46:40] <chromas> ah, so you're bloating it up with other features then ;)
[20:47:13] <Gravis> no, i'm splitting it up so that each program does one thing and does it well
[20:47:52] <Gravis> the init system will load a service manager but they wont be the same program
[20:48:53] <Gravis> do one thing and do it well
[20:49:43] <Gravis> each piece will have a well defined role and thus be replacable individually
[20:52:45] <Gravis> chromas: where are your jokes now?
[20:53:10] <Gravis> chromas: i'll tell you, they are in a corrupted registry entry. :P
[20:58:12] <chromas> Oh, they're coming.
[20:58:17] <chromas> Any day now.
[20:58:25] <chromas> Probably about the time your new system is ready
[20:59:08] <cmn32480> A service manager... and a registry... where I have I heard that before......
[21:00:11] * chromas remembers when the registry was just for file/program associations
[21:07:13] <nick> good ol' memories
[21:07:30] <cmn32480> yeah... mammaries are awesome
[21:09:03] <nick> not much gets by you, cmn32480
[21:09:20] <cmn32480> hey... what can I say... I'm smrt!
[21:10:51] <cmn32480> I can't even say I have dyslexia to blame that on.
[21:14:40] <nick> lol
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[23:07:56] <crutchy> regedit does one thing well... it shows you how complex the windows registry is
[23:08:35] <crutchy> ini/conf files ftw!
[23:09:25] <chromas> config files are just outsourcing the dirty work to the filesystem ;)
[23:09:32] <crutchy> sorta makes sense that ol' Gravis would want one program watching over all others. maybe he should call it 'governmentd'
[23:25:23] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[23:25:24] <Jiggler> ^ 03Red Star OS - A Look at North Korean Computing [Part 1] - YouTube
[23:29:57] <SirFinkus> mine is probably better https://media.ccc.de
[23:30:03] <Jiggler> ^ 03C3TV -Lifting the Fog on Red Star OS ( https://media.ccc.de )
[23:31:19] <SirFinkus> the file watermarking is kind of neat
[23:32:27] <crutchy> with all the snooping going on around the world, a paranoid OS might eventually not seem like such a bad idea
[23:32:58] <crutchy> though i assume red star would permit the NK gov to snoop freely
[23:34:29] <SirFinkus> actually less snooping than you'd think, most of the security seems to be around system integrity and watermarking stuff
[23:34:41] * crutchy is reading http://wiki.freepascal.org
[23:34:41] <SirFinkus> granted, the update servers don't work outside of best korea
[23:34:42] <Jiggler> ^ 03Wiki: Lazarus For Delphi Users
[23:34:52] <crutchy> (probably should have read it ages ago)
[23:35:22] <SirFinkus> so the major spy stuff is probably pulled in when you update
[23:36:28] <SirFinkus> media files are appended with your hashed hard drive serial number
[23:37:11] <SirFinkus> so if people are sharing something with a usb drive, they can follow the chain of custody and build an graph
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[23:38:37] <crutchy> aw fuck me. auto var declarations!
[23:38:41] <crutchy> lazarus++
[23:38:41] <Bender> karma - lazarus: 5
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[23:45:39] <chromas> If Korea finds any back doors, it'd be cool if they'd let us know about 'em
[23:48:30] <chromas> crutchy: are you sure delphi doesn't have that? it's the same key combo that creates function/method stubs
[23:49:54] <crutchy> dunno. never thought to try it :p
[23:50:18] <chromas> me either
[23:50:23] * chromas hasn't read tha tpage
[23:51:07] <chromas> Oh, on the lnet thing, I think it hooks into laz events if you're doing a graphical program, so you don't have to poll the socket like I do
[23:58:51] * Deucalion listens to people speak a different language