#Soylent | Logs for 2015-12-27
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[00:05:30] <crutchy> coffee++
[00:05:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2012
[00:05:30] <crutchy> coffee++
[00:05:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2013
[00:12:28] <crutchy> ~weather
[00:12:29] <exec> 07Traralgon VIC - currently 18°C, mostly cloudy, wind S at 18 km/h, humidity 45% - Sunday mostly cloudy (9°C:19°C), Monday partly cloudy (9°C:27°C), Tuesday sunny (11°C:30°C), Wednesday mostly sunny (15°C:34°C)
[00:13:05] <crutchy> ~convert 19 C F
[00:13:06] <exec> 0319°C = 66.2°F
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[00:39:00] * SpallsHurgenson notices a definite speed bump after installing an SSD.
[00:43:45] <juggs> dafuq - I am juggs again? I am getting tired of my bouncer losing connection..... anyone else getting disconnected ~1 per day or do I need to go kick my bouncer into the weeds?
[00:44:52] <SpallsHurgenson> I was disconnected twenty minutes ago and haven't been able to get back onto IRC since then
[00:45:55] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm in desperate need of an IRC fix but I don't think that's gonna happen tonight
[00:47:11] * juggs whacks SpallsHurgenson :P
[00:47:36] juggs is now known as Deucalion
[00:48:08] <SpallsHurgenson> don't take away our juggs!
[00:48:20] <SpallsHurgenson> (what will we use to haul up water from the well?)
[00:52:07] <Deucalion> You have to craft a new bucket from 25 deer skins using 7 gut and 9 reinforced needles that you can only craft in the singular furnace on the other side of the map... but it you try to portage the scrap metal required for those needles you'll go weak at the knees or starve trying to get there. Therefore, in this open world scenario you must follow this scripted path to your destination. Huh.. make your mind up.... /me thinks I am the only one
[00:52:07] <Deucalion> who knows what that diatribe was about :D
[00:53:18] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, how was your Christmas? did kitty grow a sleigh or a funny hat spontaneously?
[00:53:51] <SpallsHurgenson> nothing so ordinary :)
[00:54:00] <Deucalion> Do tell!!
[00:54:27] <SpallsHurgenson> oh shit, really? Ummm, ummm... give me a moment to think up an entertaining lie!
[00:55:18] <SpallsHurgenson> erm, have I mentioned SSDs make computers go faster?
[00:56:02] * SpallsHurgenson denies he is changing the subject
[00:57:59] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, ooh that's a lie
[00:58:06] <Deucalion> It was so expertly done it was not even noticed. I may have blinked though.
[00:58:13] <crutchy> it's because of faster electrons
[00:58:25] <Deucalion> fastrons
[00:58:44] <crutchy> they're red, because everyone knows red goes faster
[00:58:56] <Deucalion> I named a new particle, now I need 10 billion to prove the exist.
[00:58:58] <SpallsHurgenson> nuh-uh, 'cause in this house we obey the laws of physics, mister!
[00:59:22] <Deucalion> the laws are not set in stone, they are just best guesses
[00:59:25] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, you have no pants so you're already violating the laws of physics
[00:59:52] <Deucalion> not so much... pants fall down if you don't use a belt
[01:00:20] <Deucalion> we used to call that gravity, now it appears to be style
[01:01:56] <SpallsHurgenson> like an onion on the belt!
[01:03:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm actually rather disappointed at how pronounced the speed bump was on my laptop.
[01:03:40] <SpallsHurgenson> I was hoping that the lappy was CPU-bound and I could use the SSD on the desktop :)
[01:07:09] <Deucalion> Added a new services bot "Athena" to the openly available list - will get the 12 up in due course. (For those that know how to use the /bs command)
[01:07:36] <SpallsHurgenson> ooh, new bot. Is it... sexy?
[01:12:23] <Deucalion> Hmm.... she was born by someone axing the hell out of Zeus's head... that may not be the best portent. But by all means get on in there... make a will first). Nah it's just a services bot, I thought I would bring the dodekatheon in as public services bots having seen most of our service bots were marked private.
[01:12:25] * SpallsHurgenson sidles up to Athena and starts whispering innappropriate #commands into her ear
[01:12:51] <crutchy> Deucalion, i'm a master of the bs command :p
[01:14:13] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, you know when you whisper in her ear /bs botlist is listening - SkyNet and SSA will come down and end your endearments with a vengeance :D
[01:14:35] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[01:14:45] <crutchy> ...
[01:14:56] * crutchy kiks monopoly
[01:15:36] <crutchy> gathp!
[01:15:41] <crutchy> monopoly is ded!?
[01:15:45] <crutchy> chromas?
[01:16:04] <SpallsHurgenson> it probably got renamed again
[01:16:27] <crutchy> nah it seems to be gone from all its other hideouts too'
[01:16:43] <Deucalion> ye gads - do not summon chromas for I shall be shamed on my basic grathp of these irc thingamies
[01:16:47] * SpallsHurgenson just assumes that anyone who's nick has changed in the last six months or so is a bot :)
[01:17:01] <crutchy> Deucalion, i don't think i'm speshul enough to use the /bs command
[01:17:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Find 1500-Year-Old Viking Settlement Beneath New Airport Site - http://sylnt.us - underpinings-of-modern-europe
[01:17:42] <crutchy> ooh
[01:17:45] <crutchy> it worked
[01:18:21] <crutchy> pretty soon we'll have our own set of greek gods
[01:19:11] <SpallsHurgenson> are you implying I'm not one already?
[01:19:41] <crutchy> you are the goddess of pants
[01:19:54] <SpallsHurgenson> Pantsalonia?
[01:20:18] <crutchy> we shall build a pantseon in your honor
[01:21:53] <SpallsHurgenson> ow.
[01:26:01] <SpallsHurgenson> its amazing how much ssds have dropped in price
[01:26:11] <Deucalion> crutchy, that was my point - only ser and SSA were available to all, the rest were all private - so I shall bring forth the dodekatheon of bots for public delectation, they will all be located in Olympus.gr of course. Then perhaps the Norse gods could make an appearance... not decided on a country code for them... perhaps on.a.longboat :D
[01:29:57] <SpallsHurgenson> can we use them for evil?
[01:30:44] <crutchy> you mean they can be used for something other than evil?
[01:31:42] <SpallsHurgenson> I meant, used for evil by the peons
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[01:44:45] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, they may appear as different names but they are just aliases for the same back end process. I miss xlefay right now, I would have questions for them.... ~sigh~
[01:46:27] <Deucalion> Off too the horizontal thing for me right now though... be well :)
[01:47:06] <crutchy> ~g'night Deucalion
[01:47:07] * exec fanatically throws a bathtub of spew at Deucalion
[01:51:45] <SpallsHurgenson> spew?
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[02:14:46] <SpallsHurgenson> argh; is there any music less enjoyable than sitar music?
[02:15:14] <SpallsHurgenson> I'd listen to 24 hours of bagpipes rather than a minute of the sitar
[02:19:59] <cmn32480> ~titles on
[02:20:02] <cmn32480> ~title on
[02:20:04] <exec> titles enabled for 10#Soylent
[02:20:29] <cmn32480> stupid mia bots
[02:20:55] <cmn32480> had the same thing when IRC went poof earlier today adn I had to go kick exec in the nads
[02:21:30] <cmn32480> bagpipes (when played by someone who know what they are doing), are beautiful
[02:22:01] <cmn32480> http://www.google.com
[02:22:02] <exec> └─ 13Google
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[02:22:11] <cmn32480> ~g your mom
[02:22:12] <exec> [google] www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=your+mom
[02:22:19] <cmn32480> ~define your mom
[02:22:20] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03your mom: what u say in responce to any question
[02:22:26] <SpallsHurgenson> nobody has ever said anything like that about the sitar though
[02:22:37] <cmn32480> off to the xbox now that the kids are in bed
[02:22:53] <cmn32480> like a thousand nails on a thousand chalkboards
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[02:24:50] <SpallsHurgenson> which xbox? original mean-green, 360 or #3 one.
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[02:27:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Good evening, gentlemen.
[02:28:53] <Ethanol-fueled> since nobody is watching, I will list a classic.
[02:29:30] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[02:29:31] <exec> └─ 13The Toxic Avenger 1984 mexican restaurant fight scene - YouTube
[02:35:05] <cmn32480> ~submit http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:35:07] <exec> └─ 13Feeling abandoned by Adobe? Check out the video editing suites for penguins • The Register
[02:35:33] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[02:36:11] <SpallsHurgenson> can I create and edit Flash with those too? I have some great ideas for a website ;-)
[02:37:47] <crutchy> ~users channels exec
[02:37:50] <exec> # #debug #editorial #github #soylent #wiki
[02:38:53] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[02:38:55] <exec> └─ 13The Toxic Avenger Kills Bozo and Slug - YouTube
[02:38:56] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHHAHAHA
[02:40:17] * crutchy really needs to document his damn bot a little better
[02:40:39] * cmn32480 stifles "no shit" in a cough
[02:41:19] <SpallsHurgenson> hush you, you're playing xbox
[02:41:29] <cmn32480> not yet
[02:41:44] <cmn32480> right now i'm poking crutchy with a sharp stick
[02:41:45] <Ethanol-fueled> sod off, sacksucks.
[02:41:51] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
[02:42:00] * cmn32480 pokes crutchy with a sharp stick
[02:42:16] <SpallsHurgenson> hmm... I can see a market for that sort of game on the xbox
[02:45:05] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[02:45:07] <exec> └─ 13Huun-Huur-Tu / Aa-shuu dekei-oo / Tuva Türkleri - YouTube
[02:45:32] <Ethanol-fueled> This is the best multicultual video without advocating breeding with niggers.
[02:46:37] <Ethanol-fueled> You lily-livered weenies will be dominated by niggers.
[02:46:48] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHHAAHHAAH
[02:47:04] <cmn32480> how much have you had this evening EF?
[02:47:10] <Ethanol-fueled> a lot.
[02:47:14] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHHAHAHA
[02:47:45] <Ethanol-fueled> But, due to your faults, that doesn't make anything I said less true.
[02:47:48] <Ethanol-fueled> BAHAHAHAHAA
[02:48:03] <Ethanol-fueled> For that doesn't effect me.
[02:48:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Silicon Valley for Drones, in North Dakota - http://sylnt.us - make-sure-they-are-all-registered
[02:50:08] <crutchy> ~users all-channels
[02:50:09] <exec> # #belle #civ #comments #crawl #crutchy #debug #dev #editorial #exec #feeds #freenode #github #help #idlenerds #irpg #isis #journals #nethack #qa #rss-bot #soylent #staff #sysops #test #wiki
[02:50:16] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHHAHAHAHAHH!!
[02:50:21] <crutchy> hmm
[02:50:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Suck my dick.
[02:50:41] <Ethanol-fueled> crutch-dawg!
[02:50:47] <crutchy> aye focker!
[02:51:04] * SpallsHurgenson continues the endless battle against duplicate files
[02:51:09] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[02:51:10] <exec> └─ 13Huun-Huur-Tu / Aa-shuu dekei-oo / Tuva Türkleri - YouTube
[02:51:35] <SpallsHurgenson> its high time somebody de-duped the internet
[02:51:57] <Ethanol-fueled> The guy with the deep voice is the nigger of the group.
[02:52:03] <crutchy> but i'm using it as a redundant backup
[02:52:12] <Ethanol-fueled> He is the commander.
[02:52:18] <crutchy> the ncommander?
[02:52:48] <Ethanol-fueled> ncommander isn't a nigger. He's a refined urban guy.
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[02:55:25] <Ethanol-fueled> I have run a psychoanalysys on ncommander.
[02:55:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley as well.
[02:55:43] * cmn32480 gets the popcorn
[02:55:50] <Ethanol-fueled> And, the one in between.
[02:56:05] * cmn32480 gets bored adn goes to play xbox
[02:56:09] <Ethanol-fueled> ones in between.
[02:56:44] <crutchy> did you psychoanalyze me?
[02:56:56] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, yes.
[02:57:01] <Ethanol-fueled> I do them all.
[02:57:09] <crutchy> oh dear. you have my condolences sir
[02:57:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, you have mine. There is no net gain from it.
[02:58:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Look at my mother and father's day entries.
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[03:18:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The First Predicted Supernova Appearance by Gravitaional Lensing - http://sylnt.us - calling-you-shot
[03:19:18] <crutchy> 'calling you shot'?
[03:19:26] * crutchy doesn't get it
[03:22:27] * SpallsHurgenson hands crutchy an "r"
[03:23:14] <crutchy> that would make a bit more sense
[03:23:37] <SpallsHurgenson> hey! those "r"s aren't free, y'know!
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[03:28:19] <AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA> crutchy: meow
[03:28:59] <crutchy> lol
[03:29:29] <crutchy> ~weather
[03:29:31] <exec> 07Traralgon VIC - currently 20°C, cloudy, wind SW at 21 km/h, humidity 36% - Sunday cloudy (9°C:21°C), Monday partly cloudy (9°C:27°C), Tuesday sunny (11°C:30°C), Wednesday mostly sunny (15°C:34°C)
[03:29:49] <AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA> crutchy: any rules here?
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[03:30:20] <crutchy> ~title off
[03:30:21] <exec> titles disabled for 10#Soylent
[03:30:37] <crutchy> not really. pretty easy going
[03:30:55] <AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA> cool! I can spam here then :P
[03:31:02] <crutchy> yeah we've had that
[03:31:19] <AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA> lol seriously I don't bother spamming here. It annoys others :P
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[03:31:30] <AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA> boring. I guess I'm leaving
[03:31:34] <crutchy> :D
[03:31:50] <AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA> ~weather North Korea
[03:31:52] <exec> 10Pyongyang, North Korea - currently 17°F / -8°C, sunny, wind NW at 8 mph, humidity 33% - Sunday sunny (9°F:21°F / -13°C:-6°C), Monday sunny (13°F:29°F / -11°C:-2°C), Tuesday mostly sunny (22°F:34°F / -6°C:1°C), Wednesday rain and snow (25°F:37°F / -4°C:3°C)
[03:32:13] <AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA> That's cold.
[03:32:16] <Bytram|away> ~weather north pole
[03:32:17] <exec> 10North Pole, AK, USA - currently -8°F / -22°C, cloudy, wind NE at 1 mph, humidity 79% - Saturday clear with periodic clouds (-6°F:2°F / -21°C:-17°C), Sunday mostly sunny (14°F:16°F / -10°C:-9°C), Monday cloudy (20°F:29°F / -7°C:-2°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (23°F:25°F / -5°C:-4°C)
[03:32:22] <Bytram|away> that's colder
[03:32:26] <AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA> true
[03:32:40] <AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA> ~weather antarctica
[03:32:41] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[03:32:46] <crutchy> ~weather south pole
[03:32:47] <exec> south pole temp: -17 °F
[03:32:52] <chromas> ~weather pants
[03:32:54] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[03:33:15] <AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA> ~weather Antarctica
[03:33:16] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[03:33:22] <AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA> meh
[03:33:26] <AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA> and bye
[03:33:29] <Bytram|away> well, that's it for me.... too tired to stay awake. Besides I have an early start scheduled for work tomorrow.
[03:33:34] <Bytram|away> g'night everyone!
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[03:36:31] <crutchy> ~g'night Bytram|away
[03:36:33] * exec allegedly cracks open a blagoblag of milo for Bytram|away
[03:38:32] <SpallsHurgenson> O
[03:38:35] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm confused.
[03:38:58] * crutchy turns SpallsHurgenson upside down to make everything appear clearer
[03:40:03] <SpallsHurgenson> oh great, now I'm australian
[03:49:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The First Predicted Supernova Appearance by Gravitational Lensing - http://sylnt.us - calling-your-shot
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[03:55:45] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHHAHA
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[03:56:18] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[03:56:19] <NetCraft> ^ 03ff2 SNES Cecil Singles Milon Z - YouTube
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[04:01:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahah
[04:01:35] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:01:35] <NetCraft> ^* 03ff2 SNES Cecil Singles Milon Z - YouTube
[04:01:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahah.
[04:04:04] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:04:04] <NetCraft> ^ 03FFIV (SNES) - Four Fiends of the Elements - YouTube
[04:04:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Let's FIFGHT!!!
[04:04:13] <Ethanol-fueled> \HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA
[04:04:50] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:05:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Get scared, cocksuckers.
[04:05:04] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHHAHAHAHAHAA
[04:05:17] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:06:51] <Ethanol-fueled> FIGHT WITH ALL YOUR MIGHT!
[04:07:06] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHHAA, COCKSUCKERS!
[04:07:19] * Ethanol-fueled backflips into a fart.
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[04:30:37] <fliptop> anyone thinking we need a story regarding the official release of perl 6?
[04:33:34] <chromas> we had one for the development release, so why not?
[04:36:36] <fliptop> ok, i'll work on it. i saw it on /. this morning and googled it but the only other place it was reported was the perl 6 "advent calendar"
[04:37:40] <fliptop> since this morning it's been picked up by a couple other places it seems
[04:38:16] <fliptop> i'll use those sites as references
[04:38:28] <chromas> we should tease TheMightyBuzzard and tell him rehash is gonna be ported to it :D
[04:38:38] <fliptop> heh
[04:38:57] <chromas> Soylent6
[04:39:25] <fliptop> he'd probably need a new pair of shorts if he saw that
[04:40:41] <chromas> or "screw you guy, I'm-a goin' fishin'!"
[04:41:46] <fliptop> we should add this to the swag store:
[04:41:49] <fliptop> https://www.sunfrog.com
[04:41:49] <NetCraft> ^ 03Fuck this shit, Im going fishing
[04:55:56] <Gravis> ~weather hell
[04:55:58] <exec> 10Washington, DC, USA - currently 52°F / 11°C, cloudy, wind NE at 2 mph, humidity 94% - Saturday cloudy (51°F:56°F / 11°C:13°C), Sunday partly cloudy (46°F:73°F / 8°C:23°C), Monday cloudy (40°F:46°F / 4°C:8°C), Tuesday rain (50°F:63°F / 10°C:17°C)
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[05:20:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Beatles Music Joins Streaming Services - http://sylnt.us - Collect-them-all!-Oh,-wait...
[05:27:48] <fliptop> chromas: it's submitted. might need a [sic] in last paragraph, after "users" (shouldn't it be "user's"?)
[05:32:17] <chromas> or users'
[05:32:29] <chromas> for plurality
[05:32:33] <fliptop> right
[05:44:17] <crutchy> http://imgur.com
[05:44:17] <NetCraft> ^ 03I give you concrete 3D printer - GIF on Imgur
[05:46:08] <chromas> "You Wouldn't Download a Building!?"
[05:47:43] <cmn32480> ~gnight fellas
[05:47:44] * exec diabolically flings a wad of skittles at fellas
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[06:35:33] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[06:35:34] <NetCraft> ^ 03Magic Johnson - Red Hot Chili Peppers - YouTube
[06:41:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Sucka my dicka
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[07:21:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hyatt was Hacked - http://sylnt.us - another-one?!??
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[07:39:54] <poutine> tsk tsk
[07:41:43] <poutine> How do the article submitters feel after all the work they put in, and only 4 people comment on it
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[08:25:30] <crutchy> g'day poutine
[08:26:05] <crutchy> some article submitters don't give a shit if anyone comments on their submissions, cos all it takes is ~submit %url% from here
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[09:52:23] <crutchy> Deucalion++
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[09:53:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Justice Department Shuts Down Huge Asset Forfeiture Program - http://sylnt.us - giving-due-process-its-due
[09:56:57] <chromas> heh, the Messages section of SN does not much care for unicode
[09:57:08] <chromas> "Touché"
[10:06:13] <crutchy> message section?
[10:06:32] <chromas> Oh, when you get messages, like if someone moderated a comment
[10:06:39] <chromas> the page that lists them
[10:06:46] <crutchy> oh the inbox thingy
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[11:05:59] <JamesNZ> xaml--
[11:05:59] <Bender> karma - xaml: -1
[11:06:00] <JamesNZ> xaml--
[11:06:00] <Bender> karma - xaml: -2
[11:06:00] <JamesNZ> xaml--
[11:06:01] <Bender> karma - xaml: -3
[11:06:09] <Gravis> underrated! https://soylentnews.org
[11:06:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:4, Interesting)
[11:06:50] <crutchy> from the no-shit-sherlock dept.
[11:07:05] <crutchy> unfortunately its not always an option
[11:10:15] <Gravis> stupid unix sockets are too fragile. :(
[11:10:43] <crutchy> what are ya trying to do with them?
[11:10:48] <crutchy> they seem to work ok for me
[11:11:38] <Gravis> trying to pass a file descriptor and unix user credentials via auxilary message
[11:12:59] <crutchy> i dunno what an 'auxilary message' is
[11:13:29] <crutchy> is that a type of message in the protocol you're using?
[11:13:40] <Gravis> http://man7.org
[11:13:42] <NetCraft> ^ 03cmsg(3) - Linux manual page
[11:14:32] <crutchy> ew that looks nasty
[11:15:11] * crutchy doesn't use sockets at such a low level
[11:15:12] <Gravis> yep. see the msghdr struct: http://man7.org
[11:15:13] <NetCraft> ^ 03send(2) - Linux manual page
[11:15:48] <crutchy> even delphi provides better socket libraries
[11:16:06] <Gravis> sure... but this was designed back in the day
[11:16:15] <Gravis> the problem is it's still the standard
[11:16:40] <Gravis> and the macros are the only way to actually do this
[11:16:53] <Gravis> well... without being platform specific
[11:17:15] <crutchy> i imagine async sockets would be a total bitch
[11:18:04] <Gravis> acutally, i just use the regular ones and open a thread for read and another for write. :)
[11:18:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:18:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2014
[11:18:36] <crutchy> mkay
[11:18:43] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:18:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2015
[11:18:48] <crutchy> ftw!
[11:19:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot, caught up
[11:20:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake chromas
[11:20:00] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a poo glyph
[11:20:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[11:20:16] <crutchy> too many poo glyphs?
[11:20:25] <Gravis> crutchy: yeah, having a socket library would be nice... but they don't exist without license issues and requiring huge frameworks.
[11:20:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> looking that way
[11:20:46] <crutchy> Gravis, nod
[11:21:39] <crutchy> one thing i do like about php. wraps up all that stuff nice
[11:21:42] <Gravis> i'm trying to keep my boilerplate code down to 20KB, so i have to work with sockets directly
[11:21:48] <crutchy> ah
[11:22:07] <crutchy> maybe talk to Subsentient cos he's a c diehard
[11:22:13] <Gravis> only libs required: libc and the STL
[11:22:15] <crutchy> or check out aqu4's socket implementation
[11:23:15] <crutchy> https://github.com
[11:23:16] <NetCraft> ^ 03aqu4bot/src at master · Subsentient/aqu4bot · GitHub
[11:23:32] <Gravis> crutchy: Subsentient knows even less than i do. if you read the source for epoch, you will understand.
[11:23:33] <crutchy> if anyone could cram that shit into a tiny space it would be him
[11:24:02] <Gravis> his means of IPC are crude at best
[11:24:05] <crutchy> oh? i haven't read the source for epoch. prolly wouldn't understand most of it anyway
[11:24:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> there, fixed
[11:24:23] <crutchy> what do you mean by 'crude'?
[11:24:30] <crutchy> sometimes crude is better
[11:25:11] <Gravis> crutchy: nope. he uses a shared memory and there is no safety to the system.
[11:25:27] <Gravis> shared memory segment*
[11:25:42] <crutchy> hmm. yeah i dunno. i'd have to ask him about that. there might have been a reason for it
[11:25:47] <Gravis> crutchy: it also requires everything be running as root
[11:26:05] <crutchy> well it is an init
[11:26:17] <Gravis> crutchy: i've read the code. i understand the design and i have judged it as being poorly written.
[11:26:25] <crutchy> fair enough
[11:26:53] <Gravis> crutchy: it's literally why i'm working on this
[11:27:13] <crutchy> you're working on an init as well?
[11:27:28] * crutchy isn't sure if you already mentioned this before
[11:27:38] <Gravis> among other things, yes.
[11:28:00] <chromas> He wants to duplicate suckless tools :D
[11:28:58] <crutchy> have you released the source code Gravis?
[11:29:03] <Gravis> i'm replacing systemd with something well designed, not bloated and POSIX compliant as to be fully portable.
[11:29:30] <crutchy> kewel
[11:29:32] <chromas> posix--
[11:29:32] <Bender> karma - posix: 0
[11:29:52] <crutchy> look forward to seeing a repo
[11:30:06] <crutchy> we'll chuck it into the #github feed channel :D
[11:30:07] <chromas> Will you be using select on files/sockets instead of epoll etc?
[11:30:08] <Gravis> crutchy: this is still part of the toolkit that will be the basis of everything, especially IPC: https://github.com
[11:30:09] <NetCraft> ^ 03GravisZro/pdtk · GitHub
[11:30:57] <crutchy> ew c++
[11:31:03] <crutchy> but regardless
[11:31:06] <crutchy> Gravis++
[11:31:06] <Bender> karma - gravis: 5
[11:31:11] <crutchy> cos code is awesome :D
[11:32:01] <Gravis> c++ has a lot of safety features built-in that should be used.
[11:32:01] <Bender> karma - c: 47
[11:32:30] <Gravis> glibc actually implements a LOT of these with macros and weird shit
[11:32:43] <Gravis> that's why glibc is a monster that needs to be put down
[11:33:24] <Gravis> gnu is compiler specific
[11:33:44] <Gravis> i'm making something that is /actually/ portable
[11:34:03] <crutchy> are you going with something similarish to uselessd?
[11:34:18] <Gravis> no
[11:34:31] <crutchy> sys-v?
[11:34:51] <chromas> uselessd is dead, like poutine's mom
[11:35:10] <crutchy> nod. but there's still a codebase
[11:35:31] <crutchy> on bitbucket i think it was
[11:35:58] <Gravis> i'm building something that follows the unix creado
[11:36:09] <crutchy> chromas, we should start an init written in pascal
[11:36:14] <crutchy> cos all the kids are doin it :D
[11:36:45] <Gravis> nothing about systemd is simple
[11:36:48] <chromas> ~define creado
[11:36:49] <exec> creado: unable to find definition
[11:36:56] * chromas mocks
[11:36:59] <crutchy> ~define systemd
[11:37:02] <exec> systemd: unable to find definition
[11:37:05] <crutchy> :<
[11:37:18] <chromas> crutchy: it'd be simple enough to port sinit then add some features :D
[11:37:21] <crutchy> maybe exec has been gnutered again
[11:37:33] <chromas> sinit's about the simplest init you could have
[11:37:43] <crutchy> is that a suckless tool?
[11:37:51] <chromas> yeah
[11:37:55] <crutchy> ~g sinit
[11:37:56] <exec> [google] git.suckless.org/sinit/
[11:37:56] <Gravis> credo*
[11:38:12] <chromas> ~define rationalwiki
[11:38:13] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03RationalWiki: RationalWiki (also known as irrational wiki) was raised in response to Conservapedia, a wiki constructed from a conservative and fundamentalist Christian viewpoint. Originally the "rational"...
[11:38:43] * crutchy clones sinit
[11:39:13] <chromas> Basically, you need to start a service manager (or be one, in the case of systemd) and reap zombie processes
[11:39:37] <chromas> dogfart--
[11:39:37] <Bender> karma - dogfart: -2
[11:39:40] <crutchy> we shall haz all te processes!
[11:39:42] <Gravis> chromas: that's what i'm going for
[11:40:02] <chromas> =set karma/dogfart -9000
[11:40:03] <NetCraft> k
[11:40:06] <chromas> --dogfart
[11:40:06] <NetCraft> Karma - dogfart: -9001
[11:40:20] <chromas> under (negative) nine thousand!
[11:40:46] <Gravis> chromas: sinit looks worth using but i don't like the restrictive license
[11:41:06] <crutchy> Gravis, i added your repo to our #github channel feed, so we'll be able to see when you push stuff :D
[11:41:38] <Gravis> erm... ok
[11:41:48] <crutchy> chromas, maybe can try rewriting sinit in pascal and release as unlicenced
[11:41:55] <chromas> Gravis: sure, but it's a decent reference for starting out, since 100% of it is what would be in any init system
[11:41:56] <Subsentient> Gravis: Epoch's source code is indeed an abomination. membus.c makes the Holocaust look like candy land. I'm aware. Interestingly, most of Epoch was written at a time when I did *not* know very much about C. There are places in the code where you can see that.
[11:42:11] <Subsentient> I am seriously contemplating a major rewrite.
[11:42:24] <chromas> Subsentient++
[11:42:24] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 40
[11:42:26] <crutchy> Subsentient, how about aqu4's socket implementation?
[11:42:34] <crutchy> is it slick as baby shit?
[11:42:58] <Subsentient> crutchy: It's inefficient, but from that inefficiency you gain an easy way to process single lines of text over a socket.
[11:43:10] <crutchy> ah
[11:43:12] <Subsentient> I like it, but it reads 1 byte at a time, each with it's own call of recv()
[11:43:28] <crutchy> that should be easy to change though eh?
[11:43:39] <crutchy> most programs i seen read like 1kb chunks or summin
[11:43:40] <Subsentient> crutchy: To make it as practical, not so much.
[11:43:48] <crutchy> oh
[11:43:57] <Subsentient> crutchy: yeah, but most IRC text strings only are less than 64 bytes.
[11:44:11] <chromas> Subsentient: how about reading into a buffer and using SubStrings to parse it for newlines?
[11:44:16] <Subsentient> and if I read into the next string, I'll have to either write a buffer system for it, or discard the line.
[11:44:21] <crutchy> you didn't wanna have to cull the nulls off the end?
[11:44:29] <crutchy> oh
[11:44:43] <chromas> isn't there a function to peek into the socket's buffer without draining it?
[11:44:53] <crutchy> select maybe?
[11:44:57] <Subsentient> yeah, but not sure it's that portable
[11:45:02] <Subsentient> I already use select() in NEXUS.
[11:45:13] * chromas has an old version of nexus
[11:46:48] <crutchy> sinit's lincense seems to be pretty unrestrictive
[11:46:56] <crutchy> just gotta keep the license file
[11:47:11] <Subsentient> Now, NEXUS, *that*'s something that I'm going to rewrite.
[11:47:11] <crutchy> i guess if you wanna release as different license might be an issue though
[11:47:23] <Subsentient> I think NEXUS has the worst code of anything I've written
[11:47:27] <Subsentient> even worse than Epoch
[11:47:28] <chromas> this nexus build uses 1.4–2.4% cpu at all times
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[11:47:43] <Subsentient> chromas: yup, that was polling, prior to select()
[11:47:52] <crutchy> need some antiflog delays
[11:47:56] <crutchy> worked for exec
[11:48:02] <chromas> epoll++
[11:48:02] <Bender> karma - epoll: 1
[11:48:15] <Subsentient> chromas: isn't epoll Linux only?
[11:48:39] <Gravis> Subsentient: all you need to know: http://pubs.opengroup.org
[11:48:40] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Open Group Base Specifications Issue 7, 2013 Edition
[11:49:08] <Gravis> (and yes, it is)
[11:49:22] <chromas> Subsentient: yeah. Each of Linux, BSD and Windows have their own thing that's better than select(). Linux's is epoll
[11:49:26] <Gravis> or rather, it's linux specific
[11:49:31] <crutchy> that's ok. nobody programs for windows anymore
[11:50:06] <crutchy> cos steve ballmer is gone so we don't get his sweaty chair-throwing enthusiasm anymore
[11:50:53] * JamesNZ is programming for windows
[11:51:11] <JamesNZ> I'd appreciate some pity :P
[11:51:12] <Subsentient> Gravis: I will admit, Epoch's code is an abomination. I started writing it when I barely knew C.
[11:51:57] <Gravis> Subsentient: if you rewrite epoch, consider breaking it into two programs, an init program and service manager program. that way the service manager can be reloaded without reboot.
[11:52:15] <Subsentient> Gravis: It already can.
[11:52:18] <crutchy> i'll have a go at making an init that's so abominable that it will make systemd look like slenderman
[11:52:19] <Subsentient> Gravis: 'epoch reexec'
[11:52:36] <chromas> crutchy: use a combination of c# and python :D
[11:52:38] <Subsentient> Gravis: Despite the hideous code of Epoch, I personally love the *functionality* of it.
[11:52:49] <crutchy> with java dependencies :D
[11:52:50] <chromas> that's what we say about systemd :D
[11:53:00] <Gravis> Subsentient: does it actually reload from the disk?
[11:53:05] <Subsentient> Gravis: yes
[11:53:22] <Subsentient> Gravis: Limme point you to the right code
[11:53:35] <Gravis> Subsentient: how did you manage that one? make your own loader?
[11:54:19] <crutchy> ooh i have laz already on this vbox
[11:54:20] <Subsentient> Gravis: So much for knowing more than me. :^P (just playing), no, I used a combination of mutilated MemBus, fork(), and execve()
[11:54:47] <crutchy> !fight subsentient vs gravis
[11:55:03] <Subsentient> Gravis: https://github.com
[11:55:05] <NetCraft> ^ 03epoch/actions.c at master · Subsentient/epoch · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[11:55:10] <crutchy> konomi would come in and cream all over both yer arses :p
[11:55:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In Sweden, a Cash-Free Future Nears - http://sylnt.us - i-bet-the-last-$10-in-my-wallet
[11:55:29] <crutchy> ooh gravis there ya go ^
[11:55:43] <chromas> isn't Sweden heading for a male-free future?
[11:55:52] <crutchy> oh that prolly just means all card transactions maybe
[11:55:58] <chromas> Everything will be paid for in male tears
[11:56:00] <crutchy> or id chip :p
[11:56:15] <crutchy> sweden is developing the matrix
[11:56:47] <crutchy> everyone will be happy and well fed and 'plugged in'
[11:57:22] <crutchy> from the shove-that-red-pill-right-up-yer-ass dept.
[11:57:25] <chromas> nothin' wrong with that
[11:57:40] <chromas> the only problem was the authoritarianness of the system
[11:57:41] <crutchy> hot chicks in red dresses and nice steak
[11:57:48] <crutchy> i'd go there too
[11:57:52] <chromas> paving over bugs kids used to play with
[11:58:13] <chromas> plus you could become immortal
[11:58:56] <Gravis> here we go: http://pubs.opengroup.org
[11:58:57] <NetCraft> ^ 03exec
[11:59:44] <Gravis> i didn't realize posix had this functionality built-in to libc
[12:00:34] <Gravis> i thought the PID would change but i guess now
[12:00:39] <Gravis> not*
[12:00:55] <chromas> nope; only with fork()
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[12:01:40] <crutchy> chromas, the most important question when designing an init system is what pid will be used
[12:01:48] * crutchy has decided to use pid -42
[12:02:15] <crutchy> cos its even betterer than 1
[12:02:22] <Gravis> fantastic. http://media.g4tv.com
[12:02:37] <chromas> g4 is still a thing?
[12:02:42] <Gravis> nope
[12:02:51] <crutchy> wordart++
[12:02:51] <Bender> karma - wordart: 1
[12:02:53] <Subsentient> Gravis: exec() by definition replaces the current process with the new one, keeping the PID and most env vars
[12:03:00] <chromas> thought it died after they fired everyone from techtv then replaced all their shows with Cops and Cheaters
[12:03:06] <Subsentient> Gravis: What platforms you develop for?
[12:03:17] <crutchy> Subsentient, not sure about that
[12:03:22] <Gravis> POSIX/POSIX-like
[12:03:37] <Subsentient> ahh
[12:03:41] <crutchy> exec (bot) uses exec as a call wrapper from memory
[12:03:53] <Subsentient> I write whatever the fuck I want for whatever the fuck I want. If I want to write something for Windows, I do.
[12:04:10] <chromas> I think php's exec is kind of higher level than the kernel's exec
[12:04:24] <Subsentient> chromas: It's actually just a wrapper
[12:04:27] <crutchy> i mean in the command line
[12:04:28] <chromas> Subsentient: conform, you bastard!
[12:04:58] <crutchy> chromas, https://github.com
[12:05:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03exec-irc-bot/irc_lib.php at master · crutchy-/exec-irc-bot · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[12:05:04] <Subsentient> Gravis: You work with C++ a lot, correct?
[12:05:09] <Gravis> Subsentient: that's fine. it's the cathedral and the bazaar
[12:05:11] <Gravis> Subsentient: yes
[12:05:30] <crutchy> puts exec at the start of the command-line, and i think from memory there was a reason for that...
[12:05:36] <crutchy> fiik what it was though :/
[12:05:37] <Subsentient> Gravis: I'm just learning it now. There's a lot I like, and a lot that makes me think "wtf was Bjarne thinking"
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[12:05:51] <crutchy> but it adds to the process tree
[12:06:00] <Subsentient> I like templates, but they're too complicated with too many weird rules.
[12:06:20] <chromas> crutchy: does it add another process besides the one proc_open creates?
[12:06:22] <Subsentient> You shouldn't have argument deduction. It just makes it harder to work with.
[12:06:30] <crutchy> i think so yeah
[12:06:40] <crutchy> been a while since i ps'ed it though
[12:07:07] <Subsentient> And you shouldn't be able to pass an instance of the class that's inheriting the base, to the base, as the template argument for the base!
[12:07:11] <Gravis> Subsentient: pff... if you use it improperly, it makes things difficult.
[12:07:22] <Subsentient> Gravis: Friends?
[12:07:46] <Subsentient> Gravis: You're a good man. Annoying, but a good man. I don't keep junk friends. :^)
[12:07:49] <Gravis> rarely used
[12:07:59] <Subsentient> Gravis: I meant the literal friend
[12:08:04] <Subsentient> not the keyword :^)
[12:08:27] <Subsentient> And that's another thing: too many keywords
[12:08:33] <Subsentient> and overloaded keywords
[12:08:34] <Subsentient> fml
[12:08:43] <chromas> Max and Jinx—friends…for…ever
[12:08:59] <Gravis> Subsentient: this is the power of C++: https://github.com
[12:09:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03pdtk/example.cpp at master · GravisZro/pdtk · GitHub
[12:09:26] <crutchy> 3710 pts/0 S+ 4:10 | \_ php irc.php
[12:09:26] <crutchy> 14789 pts/0 S+ 0:00 | \_ sh -c php scripts/minion.php 'new dogfart' '#crutchy' 'crutchy' '~minion'
[12:09:26] <crutchy> 14790 pts/0 S+ 0:00 | \_ php scripts/minion.php new dogfart #crutchy crutchy ~minion
[12:09:35] <crutchy> looks like it breaks it out another level
[12:10:52] <Subsentient> Gravis: https://github.com What
[12:10:53] <NetCraft> ^ 03pdtk/object.h at master · GravisZro/pdtk · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[12:10:58] <Subsentient> what is with the ellipses?
[12:11:16] <Gravis> variadic templates. ;)
[12:11:30] <Subsentient> Gravis: C++11 or newer?
[12:11:44] <Gravis> c++11
[12:11:48] <Subsentient> thought so
[12:11:59] <crutchy> Gravis, i like the two space indents and newline before opening braces :)
[12:12:07] * crutchy hates big arse indents
[12:12:10] <Subsentient> Gravis: You do much work in pure C?
[12:12:31] <Gravis> only when i need to.
[12:12:40] * chromas stands by for pointer quizzes
[12:12:45] * crutchy wouldn't have thought you'd need a semicolon after a closing brace
[12:12:49] <crutchy> but i dunno c++
[12:13:54] <chromas> we need another c descendant. /me creates ++c
[12:14:21] <Gravis> chromas: they already made c++-- and called it java. ;)
[12:15:04] <chromas> I think that was actually AIDS++
[12:15:37] <Gravis> chromas: pff... no, it's HIV++, --AIDS. get it right!
[12:15:57] <Subsentient> Gravis: I keep contemplating making C2, or C squard
[12:16:02] <Subsentient> squared*
[12:16:20] <crutchy> name it c 2.0
[12:16:23] <Subsentient> hehe
[12:16:24] <crutchy> sounds trendier
[12:16:28] <Subsentient> eww
[12:16:51] <Subsentient> Gravis: I like C a lot. It's a cozy language. It's easy to keep between your ears. Doesn't take too much thought once you know it.
[12:16:52] <chromas> Or D :)
[12:17:21] <Gravis> chromas: D got it's ass kicked by C++11 ;)
[12:17:23] <Subsentient> C99 fixes almost all complaints people had with C98/ANSI
[12:17:27] <crutchy> c is almost as good as pascal
[12:17:32] * crutchy ducks for cover
[12:17:41] <Subsentient> $burrito crutchy
[12:17:41] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at crutchy
[12:18:51] <Subsentient> Gravis: Wanna see examples of some of my best work in C?
[12:19:08] <Gravis> chromas: D might have given C++ a run for it's money if they made the compiler open/libre but they fucked that up and everyone in the c++ camp panicked and that's how we got c++11 :P
[12:19:32] <chromas> Which one?
[12:19:33] <Gravis> Subsentient: sure, why not.
[12:19:45] <Gravis> chromas: there is only one D compiler
[12:19:52] <Subsentient> Gravis: https://github.com https://github.com
[12:19:54] <NetCraft> ^ 03wzblue/src at master · Subsentient/wzblue · GitHub
[12:19:54] <NetCraft> ^ 03Subsentient/aqu4bot · GitHub
[12:20:12] <Subsentient> Gravis: aqu4bot has some long bloated functions, but in general, it's pretty decent code.
[12:20:18] <Subsentient> WZBlue is a lobby monitor for Warzone 2100.
[12:20:24] <Subsentient> it uses GTK+2.0
[12:20:25] <chromas> if by one you mean several. There's also gdc and one that uses llvm
[12:20:43] <Subsentient> Gravis: http://gieba.universe2.us
[12:21:58] <chromas> Actual drawbacks of D are things like a mediocre garbage collector that a lot of stuff in the standard lib rely on
[12:22:39] <Subsentient> garbage collection is for bad programmers who can't keep their pointers straight.
[12:24:00] <chromas> 200% of all programmers are bad programmers
[12:24:20] <Subsentient> Gravis: oh btw, your code looks pretty nice. Complements to the chef. :^)
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[12:26:22] <Gravis> your long code reminded of a wiki code parser/html generator that i wrote a while back
[12:27:30] <Gravis> ahh... here is the code i was thinking of: https://github.com
[12:27:31] <NetCraft> ^ 03kiwiengine/code.cpp at master · GravisZro/kiwiengine · GitHub
[12:27:45] <Subsentient> Gravis: As a general rule, I tend to avoid extra functions. It's not a conscious decision, it's just the way my code tends to unfold.
[12:28:30] <Subsentient> I'm one lazy motherfucker, and my code reflects that.
[12:29:29] <crutchy> lazy is good. lazy is reliable. and if it does not work you can always hit him with it
[12:29:42] <chromas> laziness is the reson jesus invented programming
[12:29:58] <crutchy> i thought al gore invented programming?
[12:30:09] <Subsentient> no, that's alchemy.
[12:30:47] <chromas> now that there's a lie, mr crutchenberg. al gore stole programming so he could create global warming
[12:32:18] <crutchy> ermagerd! programmers are terrorists responsible for global warming!
[12:34:40] <chromas> well, we already knew engineers are more likely than anyone else to become terr'ists
[12:34:48] <chromas> so now you're double-on-the-hook
[12:36:24] <crutchy> this looks kinda sweet: https://github.com
[12:36:25] <NetCraft> ^ 03initng/initng · GitHub
[12:36:30] <Subsentient> Gravis: When and how did you learn C++?
[12:37:36] <Gravis> umm... i think in 2000... at high school.
[12:37:50] <Subsentient> Gravis: How long did it take you to become *useful*
[12:39:50] <Gravis> impossible to say.
[12:40:00] <Gravis> and mostly i dont remember ;)
[12:40:54] <Gravis> but learning Qt and it's design patterns is what made me most effective
[12:46:48] <Gravis> c++ is great but dangerous because it gives you very powerful tools.
[12:46:48] <Bender> karma - c: 48
[12:52:00] <Gravis> it's like the difference between electronics and integrated circuit design.
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[14:45:58] <Gravis> posix++
[14:45:58] <Bender> karma - posix: 1
[14:45:59] <Gravis> posix++
[14:45:59] <Bender> karma - posix: 2
[14:46:00] <Gravis> posix++
[14:46:00] <Bender> karma - posix: 3
[14:46:01] <Gravis> posix++
[14:46:01] <Bender> karma - posix: 4
[14:46:01] <Gravis> posix++
[14:46:01] <Bender> karma - posix: 5
[14:46:04] <Gravis> :)
[14:46:31] <Gravis> POSIX++
[14:46:31] <Bender> karma - posix: 6
[14:46:34] <Gravis> oic
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[18:23:48] <SirFinkus> dating site idea: people submit their dna and when you view someone's profile you can see what your kids with them are likely to look like
[18:26:58] <nick> disturbing
[18:27:04] <nick> but would probably be a success
[18:30:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Perl 6 Officially Released - http://sylnt.us - begin-rehash-port-in-3-2-1.....
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[18:59:56] <SirFinkus> swiss, you around?
[19:01:41] <swiss> yeah, what's up?
[19:02:14] <SirFinkus> I forgot about spring reverb, looks pretty simple
[19:02:23] <SirFinkus> http://www.vintageamps.com
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[19:03:23] <SirFinkus> kind of a neat electromechanical project
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[19:25:35] <swiss> interesting idea
[19:29:21] <swiss> looks harder to create though
[19:39:17] <SirFinkus> I don't think livespice could do it
[19:39:53] <swiss> prob not
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[20:45:28] <Gravis> seems about right: http://www.usnews.com
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[23:25:38] * Deucalion looks at chromas askance
[23:32:03] <crutchy> from the fuck-beta dept.
[23:32:46] <crutchy> or the three-betas-are-beta-than-one dept.
[23:45:10] <Deucalion> crutchy, do you ever sleep?
[23:45:34] <crutchy> yup
[23:45:43] <crutchy> though went to bed pretty late last night
[23:45:56] <crutchy> was up till 2am trying to figure out how sockets work in lazarus
[23:48:37] <Deucalion> well I have no idea what lazarus is, but why would anyone want to raise sockets from the dead? :D They might have stale packets in them
[23:50:00] * SirFinkus consults the law enforcement guide to satanic cults
[23:50:55] <Deucalion> I think it reads "inform FBI" then assault it with all force
[23:51:33] <Deucalion> That was a work of fiction and for entertainment only.
[23:51:59] <SirFinkus> they got some of the symbolism right
[23:56:18] <Deucalion> I wouldn't know.... who is this mysterious "they"?
[23:58:10] <SirFinkus> guys who made the video