#Soylent | Logs for 2015-12-10
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[00:31:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Stonehenge May Have Been First Erected in Wales - http://sylnt.us - stonecutters-lodge
[00:47:10] <chromas> Bender: s/cut.*/-erections/
[00:47:10] <sedctl> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Stonehenge May Have Been First Erected in Wales - http://sylnt.us - stone-erections
[00:50:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab chromas
[00:50:21] <Bender> Added quote 625
[00:50:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> you all heard it, he's a goober slicer
[00:50:39] <chromas> oh no! not my cut erection!
[00:58:10] * chromas tries out Claws Mail
[00:58:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i needa find a new mail host myself. time to quit google.
[00:59:05] <chromas> You love the googles
[00:59:15] <chromas> google goggles
[01:00:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> they got a fair mail setup but i'm just a tad sick of their sjw-ish politics. waiting on them to start censoring mail for hate speech next.
[01:00:34] <chromas> HoTMaiL's still around
[01:00:47] <chromas> finally got smtp access awhile back
[01:01:04] <chromas> or maybe re-enabled. something
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[01:01:12] <chromas> We're boned!
[01:01:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i'm not using a ms product from a linux desktop
[01:01:46] * WhaleErection mcols
[01:01:47] <WhaleErection> (mildly chuckles out loud)
[01:01:57] WhaleErection is now known as SpallsHurgenson
[01:02:13] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: you came
[01:02:26] <SpallsHurgenson> <groan>
[01:03:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> what yall think about protonmail?
[01:07:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, they want moneys and i ain't got a burner card handy.
[01:07:48] <chromas> b-but it says free
[01:08:11] <SpallsHurgenson> just use bytram's credit card
[01:08:12] <chromas> or is that for extra features like smtp access?
[01:10:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, it is free. they just wanted a donation after the fact.
[01:10:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> not opening for non-donators until the 26th of next month though.
[01:10:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> and no smtp access on account of the shat's all stored encrypted.
[01:11:26] <chromas> well that sucks
[01:11:36] * chromas gives protonmail gpg
[01:12:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> gpg can eat it. no amount of security is worth using PKE
[01:42:24] <cmn32480|away> yahoo still does mail buzzard
[01:42:34] cmn32480|away is now known as cmn32480
[01:42:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not patronizing anyone with an ! in their company name
[01:42:59] <crutchy_> real men carve their message on rocks and throw them to the destination
[01:43:04] <cmn32480> but they got a great jingle
[01:43:21] <cmn32480> smoke signals.... like highspeed internet from the stone age
[01:43:32] <SpallsHurgenson> "if my message doesn't make you bleed, how do I know you really got it?"
[01:43:42] <crutchy_> 0.0001 baud
[01:43:59] <cmn32480> but they travel at the speed of light!
[01:44:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> used to work for an isp named smoke signals
[01:44:08] <cmn32480> rocks only travel at the speed of your throw
[01:44:20] <crutchy_> before microsoft bought them out and created internet exploder
[01:45:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, think ima go ahead n wait on protonmail
[01:47:57] <cmn32480> is it wrong to play gmes on easy just because it is enjoyable not to die all the time?
[01:48:16] <SpallsHurgenson> what, and have fun? that's not what games are for! suffer for your entertainment!
[01:48:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, yes, pansy
[01:49:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ultra-violence is the minimum difficulty setting you should use if you call yourself a gamer. nightmare is preferred.
[01:50:15] <SpallsHurgenson> nothing wrong with playing on easy. It just means you have a life and aren't spending all your times honing your 133t twitch skills :)
[01:50:43] <crutchy_> but if you don't bhop you're just not cool
[01:51:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't listen to SpallsHurgenson, he's a noob.
[01:51:16] * crutchy_ discovered 'bhop' only last night
[01:51:29] <SpallsHurgenson> bhop? to the internets!
[01:51:49] <crutchy_> but now that i know what it is i can talk like an awesome gamer amirite?
[01:51:51] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, bunny hop. bah
[01:52:43] * TheMightyBuzzard presses the duck button repeatedly while standing over SpallsHurgenson's head
[01:52:45] * crutchy_ has endless trouble trying to get his marines in starcraft to bhop. damn insubordination!
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[02:02:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Trump Advocates Closing Parts of the Internet; Obama and Clinton Renew War on Encryption - http://sylnt.us - political-genius
[02:14:13] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm confused.
[02:21:13] <JamesNZ> Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater...
[02:21:31] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, don' do that; child services gets really cross with you
[02:23:00] <SpallsHurgenson> so does the DEP... you know, wasting water and all that
[02:23:33] <SpallsHurgenson> anyway, it's just a bureaucratic nightmare that you really want to avoid
[02:23:40] <SpallsHurgenson> so throw out the baby seperately
[02:24:33] <JamesNZ> Oh very well then.
[02:56:13] <SpallsHurgenson> why do the murderbots keep trying to botmurder me?
[02:58:15] <cmn32480> force of habit, most likely
[02:58:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~murder SpallsHurgenson
[02:59:55] <SpallsHurgenson> well, at least it's nothing personal
[03:02:04] <SpallsHurgenson> I'd hate to think the murderbots didn't like me
[03:33:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Captain James Kirk Takes US Navy's First Stealth Destroyer Out for Sea Trials - http://sylnt.us - everyone's-a-superhero-everyone's-a-captain-kirk
[03:36:43] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, let me know when they got a Picard at the wheel
[03:44:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh no you didn't...
[03:44:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~murder SpallsHurgenson
[04:00:51] <cmn32480> I've had enough fun for one day.
[04:00:59] <cmn32480> ~gnight kids
[04:01:00] * exec unjustifiably passes a tinfoil hat of vibrating rooster sammich to kids
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[04:01:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite
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[05:04:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Look at AMD's GPU Plans for 2016 - http://sylnt.us - how-much-better-can-it-get
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[06:53:52] * Deucalion farts
[06:55:50] <chromas> Deucalion: s/f(.*)t/buttb\1k/
[06:55:50] <sedctl> <chromas> <Deucalion> buttbarks
[07:03:36] <Deucalion> It was more of a pfffft than a bark
[07:06:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ask Soylent: Are There Standard Practices for on Call Work? - http://sylnt.us - put-in-a-ticket
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[07:14:56] <crutchy> workipoos--
[07:14:56] <Bender> karma - workipoos: -13
[07:27:00] * Deucalion pets crutchy.... it's better than the alt
[08:06:04] <crutchy> true that
[08:06:29] <crutchy> at lunch time today i finally got to work on the thing that i was supposed to have finished 2 days ago
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[08:37:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Fiber Mulls Los Angeles, Chicago Expansion - http://sylnt.us - faster-faster-faster
[09:01:54] <crutchy> is it just me, or does this *not* look like an EARDF site?
[09:01:55] <crutchy> https://www.google.com.au!3m1!1e3?hl=en
[09:01:56] <PointerCache> ^ 03302 Moved ( https://www.google.com.au )
[09:02:38] <crutchy> its pockmarked with more craters than the moon
[09:53:36] <SirFinkus> my sister brought back some ominously named food
[09:53:41] <SirFinkus> "aussie crunch"
[09:53:51] <SirFinkus> I wonder if it has real australians in it
[09:55:02] <SirFinkus> *aussie bites
[09:59:05] <chromas> does it taste crutchy?
[09:59:41] <crutchy> your sister likes eating aussies eh
[10:00:18] <crutchy> maybe your mom told her about us :p
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[10:08:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mozilla to Cease Development of Firefox OS - http://sylnt.us - and-little-was-lost
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[10:13:36] * crutchy hides the anvils :)
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[10:36:56] <Bytram> !uid
[10:36:57] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5983, owned by BrockDockdale
[10:37:02] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[10:37:03] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 45°F, mostly cloudy, wind S at 3 mph, humidity 86% - Thursday scattered showers (44°F:58°F), Friday partly cloudy (46°F:59°F), Saturday partly cloudy (46°F:57°F), Sunday showers (47°F:53°F)
[10:37:07] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[10:37:09] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 46°F, cloudy, wind S at 13 mph, humidity 83% - Thursday partly cloudy (40°F:52°F), Friday cloudy (39°F:52°F), Saturday partly cloudy (37°F:52°F), Sunday showers (37°F:49°F)
[10:37:12] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[10:37:15] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 31°F, cloudy, wind SE at 10 mph, humidity 81% - Thursday showers (35°F:38°F), Friday fog (35°F:42°F), Saturday partly cloudy (29°F:42°F), Sunday partly cloudy (26°F:35°F)
[10:37:23] <Bytram> ~weather McMurdo
[10:37:25] <exec> 10McMurdo, Antarctica - currently 31°F, clear with periodic clouds, wind NW at 11 mph, humidity 82% - Thursday clear with periodic clouds (29°F:32°F), Friday mostly sunny (28°F:36°F), Saturday partly cloudy (26°F:32°F), Sunday sunny (27°F:34°F)
[10:37:52] <crutchy> ~weather south pole
[10:37:54] <exec> south pole temp: -17 °F
[10:37:55] <Bytram> ~weather riyhad
[10:37:56] <exec> 10Riyadh Saudi Arabia - currently 63°F, mostly sunny, wind NW at 3 mph, humidity 24% - Thursday sunny (46°F:66°F), Friday sunny (51°F:72°F), Saturday partly cloudy (52°F:74°F), Sunday sunny (56°F:77°F)
[10:38:12] <Bytram> crutchy: g'day! how's things?
[10:38:26] <crutchy> not too bad. work is very busy
[10:38:30] <crutchy> you?
[10:39:14] <Bytram> woke up way too early and decided to pop in for a look.
[10:39:30] * Bytram notes it is about 0530 here
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[10:44:00] <Bytram> coffee++
[10:44:00] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1964
[10:44:25] * Bytram notes the coffee count is catching up to the here-and-now
[10:46:15] <alexbst> ~weather kiev
[10:46:16] <exec> 10Kiev, Ukraine - currently 34°F / 1°C, cloudy, wind W at 7 mph, humidity 93% - Thursday cloudy (30°F:34°F / -1°C:1°C), Friday fog (29°F:33°F / -2°C:1°C), Saturday showers (34°F:36°F / 1°C:2°C), Sunday cloudy (32°F:37°F / 0°C:3°C)
[10:46:53] <Bytram> lovely weather all around :/
[10:47:28] <SirFinkus> ~weather
[10:47:29] <exec> 10Olympia, WA, USA - currently 44°F / 7°C, rain, wind N at 2 mph, humidity 84% - Wednesday rain (43°F:44°F / 6°C:7°C), Thursday rain (40°F:48°F / 4°C:9°C), Friday rain (37°F:45°F / 3°C:7°C), Saturday rain (42°F:44°F / 6°C:7°C)
[11:23:29] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[11:23:50] * Bytram|away sleeping
[11:24:21] <crutchy> g'night mate. not far off that myself
[11:24:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:24:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1965
[11:25:01] <Bytram|away> crutchy: in that case, a very pleasant g'night to you, too!
[11:25:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnite crutchy
[11:39:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - One Person One Vote? Or One Voter One Vote? - http://sylnt.us - non-voting-person-OR-non-person-voter
[11:40:19] <crutchy> from the 'corporations-are-people-too' dept.
[11:41:17] <FatPhil> corporations are stupid, and people are stupid, therefore corporations are people!
[11:41:48] <Bytram|away> actually, has nothing to do with corp vote and all to do with some people are counted in the census, which affects districting, but cannot vote (e.g. illegal alien). interesting article -- highly recommend reading it.
[11:41:50] <Bytram|away> ok, I gtg
[11:42:20] <Bytram|away> http://feedproxy.google.com
[11:42:21] <PointerCache> ^ 03Root DNS Servers Hit by Attack | SecurityWeek.Com ( http://www.securityweek.com )
[11:42:39] * Bytram|away better start archiving IP addrs
[11:43:00] <chromas> we just need an alternative DNS network
[11:43:13] <chromas> using DHTs or something
[11:43:24] <chromas> DHTs are always good, like the Cloud
[11:43:24] <crutchy> from the internet-split dept.
[11:45:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, namecoin
[11:45:34] <chromas> from the lol dept
[11:46:02] <chromas> Quick! Let's get in on the earliest and therefore best namecoins while they're still cheap
[11:46:19] * crutchy gets ready to register google.com
[11:49:21] * TheMightyBuzzard registers crutchysmom.xxx
[11:49:46] * chromas registers dice
[11:50:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> how many sides?
[11:50:09] <chromas> all of them
[11:50:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> say, i should build my dice roller into MrPlow
[11:50:25] <chromas> spherical dice
[11:50:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, the good ole d1
[12:03:52] <crutchy> d∞
[12:05:01] <crutchy> time for bed. haf fun
[12:48:47] <takyon> ~submit http://www.npr.org
[12:49:14] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[12:51:18] <takyon> ~submit http://m.theregister.co.uk
[12:51:20] <exec> error: description meta content not found or empty
[12:51:26] <takyon> ~submit http://www.theregister.co.uk
[12:51:54] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
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[13:09:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, cmn32480
[13:10:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - WTO Authorizes Over $1B in Sanctions Unless USA Guts Country-of-Origin Meat Labels - http://sylnt.us - on-the-horns-of-a-dilemma
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[13:19:31] <cmn32480> mornin' buzzard
[13:19:34] <cmn32480> how goes it?
[13:20:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, havin to fight a bit
[13:20:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> thought i had some behavior squared away but apparently not
[13:20:59] <cmn32480> i get that problem with my kids a lot
[13:23:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it's less painful with perl than kids
[13:24:22] <cmn32480> possibly
[13:25:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl, once you figure the proper way to tell it to do something, will just do it. no consideration given to if it wants to or not.
[13:27:09] <cmn32480> kids... even if you have the correct way of telling them to do something, unexpected results happen
[13:27:31] <cmn32480> bugs = bad genetics
[13:32:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah and you can't really take em apart and fix them while they're running
[13:33:32] <cmn32480> well... you can... it just takes anesthesia
[13:34:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff
[13:35:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> on the other hand, you can smack em around enough and they'll eventually do what you mean even if you're not telling it precisely right
[13:37:03] <cmn32480> true... but that gets DYFS involved....
[13:47:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... the inserts aren't happening for some reason. wonder why.
[13:59:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent. got it behaving.
[14:09:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> mkay, now i needa write a script to insert about 200 comments to an article on dev... preferably without the wait time for the reskey
[14:10:19] <SirFinkus> fuck yeah, looks like the first grandia is coming to steam
[14:11:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> nifty
[14:11:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh, i need blood sugar boostage. time to break for breakfast.
[14:41:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Spy Plane Deploys to Singapore Amid South China Sea Tensions - http://sylnt.us - just-taking-a-look
[15:26:12] <Bytram|away> ~submit http://www.ras.org.uk
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[15:26:40] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[15:36:01] <SirFinkus> ~weather
[15:36:03] <exec> 10Olympia, WA, USA - currently 47°F / 8°C, mostly cloudy, wind S at 24 mph, humidity 84% - Thursday rain (40°F:48°F / 4°C:9°C), Friday rain (36°F:44°F / 2°C:7°C), Saturday rain (41°F:44°F / 5°C:7°C), Sunday showers (35°F:44°F / 2°C:7°C)
[15:36:22] <SirFinkus> been a pretty stormy week, ti's weird
[15:36:34] <SirFinkus> tons of shit fell down in my backyard
[15:37:31] <SirFinkus> I've got a massive 15 foot long piece of tree precariously balanced on the branch of another tree, I'm trying to think of a way to get it down without it landing on me
[15:38:17] <SirFinkus> I think standing directly under it and pulling is the best plan
[15:43:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> SirFinkus: sounds like a fabulous plan!
[15:45:47] <cmn32480> SirFinkus - LONG rope!
[15:46:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> growl snarl. found a bug in the api
[15:46:50] <SirFinkus> that's a tough one I think, it's a Y shaped branch resting upside down on a horizontal branch
[15:47:19] <SirFinkus> other branches on both sides prevent it from rotating, and branches on the branch it's stuck on prevent it from being slid down
[15:47:49] <cmn32480> use the buzzard's ball hitch!
[15:48:04] <SirFinkus> I was considering gasoline
[15:48:07] <SirFinkus> or just shooting at it
[15:48:44] <Bytram> my dad had a long bamboo pole on the end of which he had mounted a lopping saw (about a foot long with a bit of a curve to it) -- worked like a charm
[15:49:05] <cmn32480> depends on the size of the tree limb.....
[15:49:20] <Bytram> they also make chain saws mounted on poles
[15:49:22] <SirFinkus> it's a big one, I took a picture, but you can't really see it very well
[15:49:53] <cmn32480> not in this text based world, no
[15:49:53] <SirFinkus> it'd have to be a long ass pole, because the second on of the "legs" is cut off, it's going to fall and fall unpredictably
[15:50:06] <cmn32480> clip and run!
[15:50:14] <SirFinkus> I picture if swinging somehow and skewering me
[15:50:41] <Bytram> true story: had a friend who was trimming branches on a tree in his yard. made the mistake of cutting off the limb on which he was sitting. Fell about 10 feet onto the pile of branches he previously cut. Got broke up pretty bad and had to wear a neck brace for aa couple months.
[15:50:49] <SirFinkus> it even
[15:51:01] <SirFinkus> lol, that's some cartoon shit
[15:51:11] <SirFinkus> was he trying to catch a canary?
[15:51:34] <Bytram> no, just lopping limbs
[15:51:39] <Bytram> nograb
[15:51:41] <cmn32480> prolly a woodpecker
[15:51:59] <Bytram> ouch.
[15:52:31] * Bytram is waiting for about 80mb of Ubbuntu Mate updates to download
[15:52:49] <SirFinkus> 80mb? that's a rounding error these days
[15:53:00] <cmn32480> it was well sanded... she didn't get splinters
[15:53:01] <alexbst> http://bigthink.com
[15:53:01] <cmn32480> nograb
[15:53:02] <PointerCache> ^ 03Jesse Ventura Doesn't Pull Punches: His Unconventional Solution to Domestic Terror | Big Think
[15:53:13] <alexbst> makes some rather on-target points.
[15:53:19] <SirFinkus> lol jesse ventura
[15:53:25] <Bytram> not on a tethered 1mbit max connection which is currently pulling only about 40 KB/sec
[15:54:15] <Bytram> geminid meteor shower this weekend -- and I have rain and clouds predicted. :(
[15:54:20] <SirFinkus> he really should shave his head again, he looks like shit with that long hair
[15:54:40] <SirFinkus> rain and clouds here until late may
[15:54:41] <Bytram> any relation to Ace Ventura?
[15:54:46] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:54:55] <SirFinkus> Jesse "The Body" Ventura
[15:54:59] <SirFinkus> US NAVY SEAL
[15:55:02] <SirFinkus> GOVERNOR
[15:55:25] <cmn32480> he rebranded. he is now Jesse "The Mind" Ventura
[15:55:36] <cmn32480> and don't forget, professional wrestler
[15:55:41] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:55:58] <Bytram> wrestling with the legislature takes on a new meaning
[15:57:19] <SirFinkus> I love his interaction with his producer or whatever
[15:58:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> "Donald Trump occupies his strongest position yet in the race for the Republican presidential nomination, yet nearly two-thirds of American voters say they are concerned or frightened about the prospect of a Trump presidency, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News nationwide poll."
[15:58:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> So hopefully the fear of the USA turning into a fascist dictatorship will get people to turn out to vote against this asshole.
[15:59:11] <cmn32480> didn't work against Obama
[15:59:25] <cmn32480> or Bush
[15:59:37] <SirFinkus> http://www.ora.tv
[15:59:38] <PointerCache> ^ 03Who Shot JFK? Jesse Ventura Investigates Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy Theories
[15:59:41] <SirFinkus> THE COMMAND CENTER
[15:59:53] <SirFinkus> I'm just assuming we're screwed
[16:00:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> well, if it ends up that voting *against* Trump means voting *for* Hillary Clinton, then we _are_ screwed.
[16:01:29] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[16:01:29] <PointerCache> ^ 03Jacob Nobles- Are you feeling it now Donald Trump? - YouTube
[16:01:44] <cmn32480> so you mean to say that SirFinkus is correct?
[16:01:50] <SirFinkus> I'm curious what his official response to this will be
[16:01:55] <cmn32480> mark this day in the calendar
[16:05:21] <SirFinkus> I'm always correct
[16:08:14] <cmn32480> pppshhht
[16:09:17] <Bytram> !grab SirFinkus
[16:09:17] <Bender> Added quote 626
[16:09:27] <Bytram> time will tell
[16:13:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - David Miranda Appeals Heathrow Detention Decision - http://sylnt.us - freedom
[16:16:44] <SirFinkus> no it won't
[16:17:18] <SirFinkus> it's an unprovable statement
[16:17:33] <SirFinkus> at least with IRC
[16:18:42] <Bytram> cannot prove that you are always correct, but, if you are ever found to be incorrect, then the statement must be false. and THAT is good enough.
[16:19:50] <SirFinkus> this'll fuck you up, everything I say is a lie
[16:20:12] <Bytram> Liar!
[16:20:14] <Bytram> http://theconversation.com
[16:20:15] <PointerCache> ^ 03How Tor's privacy was (momentarily) broken, and the questions it raises
[16:20:30] * SirFinkus waits for the NSA's NLP bots to explode in a puff of logic
[16:23:18] <Bytram> magic smoke -- don't let it escape!
[16:28:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[16:28:03] <MrPlow> Today: Areas of dense morning fog. Morning clouds will give way to afternoon sunshine. High 68F. Winds S at 10 to 15 mph. Tomorrow: Cloudy with showers. High 71F. Winds S at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
[16:28:31] <SirFinkus> ya bastard
[16:28:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> man my net connection is shit today
[16:32:20] <Bytram> wanna trade?
[16:32:22] <Bytram> ;)
[16:34:00] <cmn32480> !quote 601
[16:34:00] <Bender> Quote 601 - <bytram> well, his is certainly larger than mine.
[16:34:12] <Bytram> lol
[16:34:24] <Bytram> just making small talk, eh?
[16:34:27] <Bytram> nograb
[16:34:50] <cmn32480> i just put it out ther as a topic for discussion
[16:37:11] <SirFinkus> !quote
[16:37:11] <Bender> quote <ID/search string>
[16:37:24] <SirFinkus> oh, was hoping there was a random thing
[16:37:29] <SirFinkus> !quote sirfinkus
[16:37:29] <Bender> No quotes found with the text 'sirfinkus'
[16:37:40] <SirFinkus> !quote SirFinkus
[16:37:40] <Bender> Quote 161 - <SirFinkus> huh
[16:37:44] <Bender> Also in quotes: 162, 163, 164, 165, 253, 295, 306, 352, 399, 402, 407, 418, 453, 454, 489, 501, 502, 508, 521, 526, 527, 533, 534, 536, 556, 557, 559, 560, 562, 567, 574, 577, 585, 595, 599, 612, 616, 617, 619, 623, 626
[16:38:00] <SirFinkus> !quote 619
[16:38:00] <Bender> Quote 619 - <SirFinkus> deep, deep inside my anus
[16:38:58] <Gravis> "taking guns from law abiding citizens is not going to stop what's happening" <-- lol! how about we just be more stringent on who we let have guns? seriously, a background check would weed out plenty of people.
[16:38:59] <Gravis> "oh no, you can't do that, you're going to take away our guns" <-- that's not what that means!
[16:39:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> you fail to comprehend the notion of a "right". if you have to ask permission it's not a right.
[16:40:23] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: correct. it's the sale of a firearm that is the issue, not ownership.
[16:40:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> one and the same
[16:41:07] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: with logic like that, you'd have mass shootings every day!
[16:41:08] <cmn32480> Gravis - since when do criminals care if they are "allowed" to have guns?
[16:41:11] <SirFinkus> lol nice loophole
[16:41:23] <Gravis> (because we do have mass shootings every day)
[16:41:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> not if everyone were armed. you'd be amazed how polite it got.
[16:41:36] <cmn32480> they are currently not "allowed" to have them, yet have them they certainly do
[16:42:18] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: really? people talk shit to other people with guns all the time.
[16:43:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> that'd be because we expect police to not shoot you in the face for being an asshat. they have rules and such. average joe does not except for the laws.
[16:43:29] <Gravis> murder is still a crime
[16:43:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed
[16:43:40] <Gravis> so yeah, same rules.
[16:43:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> and yet it hasn't slowed down the rate of murder one bit to make it illegal.
[16:44:33] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: impossible to tell since it was never legal
[16:44:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> since 1995 though, gun ownership has gone drastically up and the homocide rate has dropped steadily over the same time period.
[16:45:07] <SirFinkus> don't forget the AWB expired too
[16:45:17] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i'm sure if we had a "purge day" the fox news people would be in serious trouble. :P
[16:45:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, no, having guns easily available does not cause a rise in crime. just the opposite.
[16:45:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, the cops coming after the guns would
[16:46:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> lotta libs fail to realize, there are a LOT more guns in private hands than in government hands.
[16:46:13] <SirFinkus> naw, the fox news people would probably pretty ok
[16:46:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> enough to arm every man woman and child more or less.
[16:46:26] <SirFinkus> they'd be on my list too if I believed in murdering people to get my way
[16:47:31] <Gravis> SirFinkus: the fox news people accidently revealed that they get bomb threats at their building most days.
[16:47:49] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i think they would be in serious shit
[16:48:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyone making any waves at all in politics does.
[16:48:12] <SirFinkus> I'd wager that a lot of media companies get bomb threats every day
[16:48:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> five guys got multiple bomb threats for letting gamergate eat there at a meet up.
[16:48:44] <SirFinkus> shit, twitch streamers get swatted because some kid lost a CS:GO game
[16:49:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[16:49:27] <Gravis> so what is your point?
[16:49:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can't take anonymous threats seriously, mostly
[16:49:43] <Gravis> they would all be in trouble if there were a "purge day"
[16:49:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> so would all colleges
[16:50:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'where i'd set up camp anyway.
[16:50:38] <SirFinkus> unlikely, they all have the resources to defend themselves. Purge day would probably be mostly a slaughter among the lower classes
[16:50:44] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so... you are saying you want to kill college students?
[16:50:50] <SirFinkus> a bit like it is today
[16:51:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> have myself a t-shirt with "feminists give lousy head" to find the ones worth shooting
[16:51:24] <SirFinkus> that reminds me of a joke I thought up
[16:51:43] <SirFinkus> I bet those salvation army people ringing the bells outside of grocery stores give great handjobs
[16:51:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> lol
[16:51:53] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: see... now if we have proper protections in place, nutjobs like you wouldn't have guns.
[16:52:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, if your parents had had proper protections in place i wouldn't have to listen to this nonsense.
[16:53:10] <SirFinkus> lol
[16:54:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, wait, i don't have to. i'm waiting on a script to run and can do that from the living room just as well as from here.
[16:54:32] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: well, if it turns out you go all, "no more baby parts," on the world then guess we'll know you are wrong. :)
[16:56:39] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: to be honest, i wouldn't put that shit past you
[17:03:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's because you're a fool and can't see beyond your foolishness. those of us who think have already weighed the risk vs reward. we don't go by our feelz.
[17:03:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> logic, it's what's for dinner
[17:04:29] <Bytram> that reminds me... time to make something to eat
[17:04:32] <Bytram> biab
[17:05:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, not feeling the caching lurve as well as i'd like
[17:08:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> must be some bit of data needs caching that we're not
[17:16:05] <Gravis> did you mean larva?
[17:20:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, it's good enough for now. i'll eventually profile it and see if i can get us some faster page loads on the high comment count stories.
[17:26:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think it's gonna end up being code not db/cache access
[17:28:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, benefit from caching is minimal after testing by flushing the cache.
[17:30:20] <Bytram> so direct read of the db, etc is fast enough?
[17:30:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> looking that way
[17:31:31] <Bytram> well, compared to the old /. ssystem which ran on spinning rust, we are on all-SSD atm, so that must make a big difference
[17:31:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> good news for me. means i can mothball all that code and get on with something else.
[17:32:46] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:32:56] <Bytram> good news for me, too... don't need to test it!
[17:33:06] <Bytram> =)
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[17:38:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> switching back to the stripe branch
[17:38:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> on dev i mean
[17:38:54] <Bytram> so dev is being reloaded?
[17:40:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> already has been, yeah. you can test stripe billing if you like
[17:41:26] <Bytram> hmmm, any specs on what it does and how it works and what I should expect?
[17:41:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be pretty straightforward
[17:42:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> hit the billing page like you're going to try and buy a sub, blue button at the bottom
[17:42:46] <Bytram> what's your CC number?
[17:42:49] <Bytram> ;)
[17:43:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> 4242 4242 4242 4242 exp date 12/2016 cvc 123
[17:44:03] <Bytram> LOL
[17:44:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Overstock to Issue Shares on the Bitcoin Blockchain - http://sylnt.us - bits-and-pieces
[17:44:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not specially worried about them handling their data right, more about ours coming out right given unexpected input
[17:44:38] <Bytram> so that will have 'unlimited' funds? What about insufficient funds?
[17:44:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's a test card number. will go through like it was real on their test server.
[17:44:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> search me
[17:45:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> might try a bad card number as well or a bad date
[17:45:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> like in the past
[17:46:23] <Bytram> now that I think about it, ISTR you had a URL a while ago which linked to a FAQ or sumthin which listed a number of CC's and their, umm, 'features'
[17:47:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> long since lost that
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[17:47:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> feel free to read up on the stripe site though
[17:48:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://stripe.com and https://support.stripe.com
[17:48:57] <PointerCache> ^ 03Documentation
[17:48:57] <PointerCache> ^ 03Stripe: Help Support
[17:49:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, my arse is nap-bound after i find something resembling a sammich.
[17:51:29] <cmn32480> so your brain and fingers will stay here writing code?
[17:53:42] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: thanks for the link
[17:53:53] <Bytram> and lunch is definitely an excellent idea.
[17:53:56] <Bytram> afk
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[17:58:40] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: btw, thanks to your link, I found the page I was looking for: https://stripe.com
[17:58:40] <PointerCache> ^ 03Testing
[17:59:04] <Bytram> afk
[18:01:22] <nick> http://www.bbc.co.uk
[18:01:24] <PointerCache> ^ 03Can you solve GCHQ's Christmas card puzzle? - BBC News
[18:02:54] <nick> http://www.bbc.co.uk
[18:02:59] <PointerCache> ^ 03GCHQ could 'grab' UK shopping data, committee told - BBC News
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[18:34:22] <SirFinkus> that fusion reactor looks badass
[18:34:44] <Bytram> which fusion reactor?
[18:34:59] <SirFinkus> that new german one
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[18:35:25] <Bytram> linky?
[18:35:29] <SirFinkus> https://www.google.com
[18:35:30] <PointerCache> ^ 03wendelstein 7-x - Google Search
[18:36:12] <SirFinkus> https://upload.wikimedia.org
[18:36:49] <SirFinkus> that's some proper text
[18:36:52] <SirFinkus> *tech
[18:36:59] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:36:59] <PointerCache> ^ 03Wiki: Wendelstein 7-X
[18:39:36] <SirFinkus> I feel stupid just looking at the shape of the damn thing
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[19:02:06] <K_benzoa1e> It looks like something designed by a computer
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[19:03:08] <K_benzoa1e> Like one of those antenna designs that are evolved by randomly trying different shapes
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[19:11:13] <mechanicjay> fuck fuck fuck
[19:12:59] <Bytram> mechanicjay: that sounds kind of ominous... what's up?
[19:13:43] <mechanicjay> fucking opensource projects that change functionality/behavior without noting it anywhere
[19:15:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GunTV Aims to Premier 24-Hour Shopping Channel for Firearms - http://sylnt.us - click-and-shoot
[19:16:24] <mechanicjay> Software I'm using used to treat the externally authenticated username as authoritative. Now it doesn't and will generate username1 for folks under certain circumstances -- which is completely unhelpful.
[19:16:51] <mechanicjay> It used to throw an error on username collision, which was great because it let us know there was a problem.
[19:16:58] <mechanicjay> its royally fucking me at the moment
[19:19:14] <Bytram> oh. my... that stinks!
[19:19:27] <mechanicjay> of course the app is a steaming pile of ruby, which despite me best efforts, I can't make heads or tails of
[19:20:19] <Bytram> is the creation of a username encapsulated in its own routine? IF so, one could try to retrieve that username, first, and only create it if it does not already exist.
[19:20:27] * Bytram has no first hand experience with ruby.
[19:21:42] <mechanicjay> That's the thing, I'm staring at the generate_username function at the moment and there is nothing there which indicates that this will happen. Which means it's happening deeper in the app someone. After the username gets generated, which this function says, just take the value we're passed, something else is modifying it....
[19:22:06] <Bytram> ewwwww!
[19:24:04] <Bytram> about all I can suggest is praying that there is a way to set some kind of a breakpoint on value change and step through the code... I feel your pain... that's no fun at all.
[19:30:41] <Bytram> BTW, the comment counts on the main page on dev ( https://dev.soylentnews.org ) are still showing '0 comments' for your comment test story, but when I click into the story,it shows there are 261 comments.
[19:30:41] <PointerCache> ^ 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN is secured dead goatse
[19:31:07] <Bytram> (I suspect a daemon needs to get restarted.)
[19:34:19] <mechanicjay> Found it!
[19:34:44] <Bytram> !woop
[19:34:44] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[19:35:08] <mechanicjay> ...negative
[19:35:14] <Bytram> drat!
[19:35:36] <mechanicjay> it didn't go in. It just impacted on the surface....
[19:35:49] <Bytram> bah! Keep trying!
[19:36:37] <mechanicjay> I the Luke Skywalker of Ruby programmers over here, STAT!
[19:38:36] <Bytram> so, be sure to test with a username of 'droid' so that, if it DOES allow a duplicate to be created, you can say "This is not the droid you are looking for." =)
[19:40:03] <Bytram> adk break time
[19:40:07] <Bytram> *afk
[19:42:09] * mechanicjay lobs a thermal detonator at Bytram
[19:43:42] <swiss> that game got old so quick for me :(
[19:50:20] * Bytram dodges quickly and activates his reverso-force-field which deflects the detonator harmlessly away
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[20:10:06] <Bytram> time for a nap. hope to check in later, but no promises.
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[20:22:06] <cmn32480> The only good thing about conference calls is that if I put them on mute I can yawn to my hearts content\
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[20:34:24] <mechanicjay> !woop
[20:34:24] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[20:34:44] <mechanicjay> I fixed my usernames not-colliding issue!
[20:34:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> why not zoidberg?
[20:35:12] <mechanicjay> Because Bender is a bot
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[21:26:11] <cmn32480> I hate users
[21:26:28] <crutchy> ooh almost forgot
[21:26:30] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:26:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1966
[21:26:36] <cmn32480> hahaha
[21:26:53] <cmn32480> I jsut had a user send an email to the entire compnay, giving the incorrect information.
[21:27:02] <crutchy> noice
[21:27:16] <crutchy> i'm sure he thought he was aorsum
[21:27:39] <crutchy> aw crap
[21:27:47] <crutchy> workipoos--
[21:27:47] <Bender> karma - workipoos: -14
[21:27:52] <cmn32480> I wanna punch him in the face
[21:27:56] <crutchy> better go. till laterz
[21:27:59] <crutchy> lol
[21:27:59] <cmn32480> have a good day crutchy
[21:28:02] <crutchy> tgif
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[21:49:01] <cmn32480> I'm out.
[21:49:08] <cmn32480> got lacrosse tonight with the kids
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[21:52:34] * Bytram waves a belated goodbye to cmn32480|away
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[23:50:57] <chromas> Bender: s/(o)/\1i/8
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