#Soylent | Logs for 2015-11-17

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[00:07:48] -!- Silverly [Silverly!~silverly@wvd-192-788-651-690.lnse2.cht.bigpond.net.au] has joined #Soylent
[00:22:55] <Bytram> !uid
[00:22:55] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5951, owned by qwertyemmagoldman
[00:23:34] <Bytram> coffee++
[00:23:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1880
[00:24:36] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Bytram, how are you?
[00:25:06] <Bytram> good. tired, but good.you?
[00:26:03] * Bytram is 2nd editing submissions that have been pushed into the story queue atm
[00:30:46] -!- Zombiepocalypse [Zombiepocalypse!~SpallsHur@Soylent/Users/656/SpallsHurgenson] has joined #Soylent
[00:32:18] * Bytram offers braaaaaainnns to Zombiepocalypse
[00:32:39] <Bytram> ~g TGV
[00:33:36] <Zombiepocalypse> oh c'mon; like you expect me to believe you can find any braaaaaaaiiiiins in #soylent? :)
[00:36:41] * Zombiepocalypse rolls a d6 to see if he can find some brains anyway...
[00:36:48] * Zombiepocalypse rolls a 5; success!
[00:37:05] * Bytram channels Indiana Jones and offers Zombiepocalypse some monkey brains
[00:38:55] <Bytram> ~time x
[00:39:07] <Bytram> looks like crutchy's bot is offline
[00:39:21] <Bytram> or, at least, inattentive
[00:47:54] <Bytram> ohhh, this is nice to know:
[00:47:55] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com
[00:47:56] <Ok> ^ 03Moderate coffee drinking may be linked to reduced risk of death -- ScienceDaily
[00:48:03] <Bytram> coffee++
[00:48:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1881
[00:58:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Education Department Encourages Schools To #GoOpen With Educational Resources - http://sylnt.us - proprietary
[01:05:49] <takyon> hell o
[01:06:12] <Zombiepocalypse> there's nobody here but us zombies
[01:09:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:09:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1882
[01:10:16] <takyon> beer++
[01:10:16] <Bender> karma - beer: 50
[01:10:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> agreed
[01:10:52] <Bytram> bone chewer!
[01:11:18] <Bytram> umm, maybe Bon Jour would be better?
[01:11:29] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: how's things?
[01:11:39] -!- cwtch [cwtch!~cwtch@straight.outta.localhost] has joined #Soylent
[01:11:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair, just had me a nap
[01:11:48] <Bytram> nice!
[01:12:06] <Bytram> I've got another hour or so left in me and then I'll prolly head to bed early.
[01:12:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, unexpected but nice. also have a shiny new fish/depth finder
[01:12:34] <Bytram> good for you, and prolly not so good for the fish. ;)
[01:12:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> hopefully
[01:12:54] <Bytram> is that an aluminum boat you got?
[01:13:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[01:13:41] <Bytram> my folks had one, many years ago. held up pretty well, and the aluminum made it a lot easier to put in / take out of the water -- lots lighter
[01:14:17] <Gravis> news monkies! there is a problem with the Reg link: https://soylentnews.org
[01:14:18] <Ok> ^ 03SN article: Dialog Semiconductor's $4.6B Bid for Atmel Being Challenged by Elliott 04(1 comments)
[01:14:18] <Bytram> btw, saw that your code got pulled... does not look like it made it to dev yet?
[01:14:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth. which is currently an issue at the closest lake. the water's down far enough you run off the end of the boat ramp trying to put in.
[01:14:48] <Bytram> hmm that could be a problem... you got 4-wheel drive?
[01:14:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, haven't worked on dev yet. got some stripe stuff still in the works afore it does.
[01:15:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure, and a huge truck.
[01:15:05] <Bytram> ahh, splains things a bit.
[01:15:26] <Bytram> saw we had the <label> stuff <label> bug in there again.
[01:15:39] <Bytram> but, looking at github, did not seem to be there.
[01:15:54] <Bytram> code was in: https://github.com
[01:15:55] <Ok> ^ 03rehash/previewForm;submit;default at master · SoylentNews/rehash · GitHub
[01:16:24] <Bytram> <label>Editor's Notes<label>
[01:16:26] <Bytram> around line 106
[01:16:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, i'd fix it but got no idea what the eds were aiming at
[01:17:00] <Bytram> iow, code on github is good, but dev needs some catching up.
[01:17:17] <Bytram> I'm gonna update the template on the fly on dev to fix that one, if that's okay with you?
[01:17:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, ya, expect it to stay buggy on dev for a bit or feel free to fix it on live if it came back
[01:18:00] <Bytram> k
[01:18:13] <Bytram> I've not noticed any problems on live.
[01:18:22] <Bytram> saw your code got pulled and wanted to play with it.
[01:18:28] <Bytram> saw the above issue,
[01:18:32] <Bytram> checked github,
[01:18:37] <Bytram> figured out dev was not up to date.
[01:20:31] <Bytram> bug was in TWO places on dev. Updated the template and hit save.
[01:21:24] <Bytram> YAY! that worked! now I can enter something for the 'Dept' while I first have a submission up for review.
[01:21:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh
[01:21:50] <Bytram> little by slow, I'm getting there.
[01:25:27] <Bytram> here's a little coding puzzle for ya... when extended copy is not null, and a story is being displayed on the main page, have the system automagically display "<p>[More after the break.]</p>" at the end of the Intro Copy
[01:26:02] <Bytram> anyway, dinner is waiting for me to fetch it; biab
[01:26:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> I would but I don't wanna
[01:26:14] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:26:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[01:26:19] <Bytram> brb
[01:30:19] <cmn32480|away> the f**kiung link
[01:30:28] <cmn32480|away> forgot to ask you abotu that buzzard
[01:30:40] cmn32480|away is now known as cmn32480
[01:30:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup?
[01:30:47] <cmn32480> my stupid day job got in the way
[01:30:55] <cmn32480> the link gravis referred to earlier
[01:31:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> what about it?
[01:31:13] <cmn32480> needs a %20 in it between elliot and management
[01:31:27] <cmn32480> and when we put it in, somethign in the code strips it out
[01:31:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, run it through a url shortener then. we got an issue with those.
[01:31:35] Zombiepocalypse is now known as SpallsHurgenson
[01:31:44] <cmn32480> oh
[01:31:47] <Bytram> cmn32480: which story?
[01:31:54] <cmn32480> that's a prettty obvious solution
[01:32:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> or try it with an actual space in the href=
[01:32:53] <Bytram> cmn32480: this one? http://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:32:55] <Ok> ^ 03elliottmanagement • Tag • The Register
[01:32:55] <cmn32480> space doesnt' work
[01:33:00] <cmn32480> yeah
[01:33:03] <Bytram> cmn32480: this one? http://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:33:04] <cmn32480> working on it now bytram
[01:33:05] <Ok> ^ 03elliott management • Page 1 • Tag • The Register
[01:34:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> keep bugging me about that one or i'll forget about it before i finish debugging stripe
[01:34:54] <cmn32480> don't forget the bug with the links
[01:34:59] <cmn32480> fixed bytram
[01:35:10] <Bytram> or, submit a bug.
[01:35:18] <cmn32480> prolly already there
[01:35:33] <cmn32480> oh god... NCommander has a story in the queue
[01:35:39] * cmn32480 calls in sick
[01:36:17] <Bytram> is short, and I already 2nded it.
[01:36:18] <Bytram> =)
[01:36:50] <cmn32480> oh thank god... I thoguht we were gonna have to second by chapters
[01:37:02] <Bytram> cmn32480: umm, we have our OWN link shortener, yanno?
[01:37:17] <cmn32480> no
[01:37:26] <cmn32480> i dinna yanno
[01:37:31] <Bytram> lol
[01:37:43] <Bytram> something about it on our wiki
[01:37:49] * SpallsHurgenson makes fun of cmn32480 for not knowing
[01:37:54] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[01:37:56] <Ok> ^ 03SN article: US Education Department Encourages Schools To #GoOpen With Educational Resources 04(4 comments) ( https://soylentnews.org )
[01:38:06] <Bytram> ^^^ example
[01:38:09] * cmn32480 laughs along w/ SpallsHurgenson
[01:38:21] <cmn32480> bytram... that's wonderful
[01:38:32] * Bytram looks for docs
[01:38:38] <SpallsHurgenson> that's terrible (I hate link-shorteners)
[01:38:39] <cmn32480> the vital missing piece of information... WHARE IS IT???
[01:39:22] <SpallsHurgenson> remember the good ol' days when you could look at a URL and figure out what it was about?
[01:39:27] <Bytram> hmmm, http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[01:39:28] <Ok> ^ 03Wiki: URLShortener
[01:39:29] <Bytram> ???
[01:40:03] <SpallsHurgenson> and then... <spit>TWITTER
[01:40:54] <Bytram> lives on bery: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[01:40:55] <Ok> ^ 03Wiki: Beryllium
[01:40:56] <cmn32480> brb,,,, kids need to get put to bed
[01:40:57] <chromas> http://sylnt.us
[01:40:58] <Ok> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | http://sylnt.us
[01:41:14] <cmn32480> thank you chromas
[01:41:22] * SpallsHurgenson shakes with fury
[01:41:32] <cmn32480> I was looking for the link to the bloody shortner, which is NOT in the wiki article
[01:41:55] * chromas edits the page
[01:41:57] <SpallsHurgenson> if only wikis could be edited...
[01:42:02] <cmn32480> I know.
[01:42:07] <cmn32480> stupid static content
[01:42:11] <Bytram> URL must be in soylentnews.com, soylentnews.org, soylentnews.net, altslashdot.org, altslashdot.com, altslashdot.net, slashdot.org, github.com
[01:42:33] <Bytram> no joy for us in this case, then.
[01:43:16] <cmn32480> HAH!~!!!!!!!
[01:43:24] <cmn32480> all that and it isn't gonna work
[01:43:41] <Bytram> well, chalk it up to sperience!
[01:43:58] <cmn32480> I shall
[01:44:08] <cmn32480> now I know... and knowing is half the battle
[01:44:14] <cmn32480> GI JOE!
[01:44:23] <cmn32480> ok gott aput the kids in bed
[01:44:32] <cmn32480> back in a few
[01:44:34] <Bytram> is that the 'bat' or the 'tle' ??
[01:44:52] <SpallsHurgenson> putt the children to bed? Is that legal?
[01:47:24] <SpallsHurgenson> my jokes all sound funnier in my head before I say them out loud
[01:47:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> more importantly, wouldn't it be more efficient to drive them to bed?
[01:49:02] <SpallsHurgenson> well, at least somebody got the pun...
[01:49:26] <chromas> Yeah don't use your wood on them
[01:50:40] * TheMightyBuzzard nods to chromas
[01:50:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> good point
[01:51:14] <chromas> it's a severe penalty
[01:51:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> besides, kids generally look like they could use a good ironing anyway
[01:51:27] <chromas> to your stroke
[01:52:01] <SpallsHurgenson> oh god, what have I started?
[01:52:19] <chromas> You pitched it; we're just catching
[01:53:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> there you go, pitching wedge it is
[01:55:20] <Bytram> just don't get a hole in one...
[01:55:28] <Bytram> that just lets the sound out
[01:55:32] * SpallsHurgenson whimpers
[01:55:40] <SirFinkus> so wait
[01:55:41] <Bytram> it's like magic smoke
[01:55:44] <SirFinkus> I was about to make a golf pun
[01:55:56] <SirFinkus> but then I realized how little sense the term "subpar" makes
[01:56:10] <SirFinkus> assuming that's the origin of the word
[01:56:11] <SpallsHurgenson> don't let a lack of quality stop you
[01:56:18] <SpallsHurgenson> god knows it wasn't stopping any of the others :)
[01:56:23] <Bytram> maybe just call em bogeys ?
[01:56:31] <chromas> subpar jokes are par for the course
[01:56:53] <SpallsHurgenson> that's rough
[01:56:58] <Bytram> chromas: s/cou/coa/
[01:56:58] <sedctl> <Bytram> <chromas> subpar jokes are par for the coarse
[01:58:19] <Bytram> http://www.nytimes.com
[01:58:20] <Ok> ^ 03( http://mobile.nytimes.com )
[01:58:32] <Bytram> http://mobile.nytimes.com
[01:58:33] <Ok> ^ 03( http://www.nytimes.com )
[01:58:59] <Bytram> http://www.nytimes.com
[01:59:00] <Ok> ^ 03( http://mobile.nytimes.com )
[01:59:11] <SpallsHurgenson> when I'm emperor of the world, I'm gonna feed copyright-trolls like this to my army of starving marmots
[01:59:18] Ok is now known as BrokeBotMounting
[01:59:59] <Bytram> chromas++ updating wiki article about link shortener to actually link to the shortener
[01:59:59] <Bender> karma - chromas: 128
[02:00:41] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: btw, the Paris story pushed yours off the top 10 in the hall of fame: https://soylentnews.org
[02:00:41] <BrokeBotMounting> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[02:00:47] <Bytram> it's up to over 310 comments
[02:01:33] <Bytram> I've got a couple more stories in the story queue, that should push me past 1100
[02:01:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> doh
[02:01:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess ima hafta blow something up next time
[02:02:23] <Bytram> hmmm, is there a simple way for me to update my local repo to get all the changes that have been pulled up to rehash?
[02:02:35] <Bytram> lol
[02:03:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> from your local repo: git checkout master && git pull upstream master && git push origin master
[02:04:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> will update both your local and your remote
[02:04:37] <Bytram> should I be in ~/rehash when I do that, or does the current dir matter?
[02:05:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, not bad... getting thousands of fps on glxgears in a vm
[02:05:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> the current dir matters. be in your local repo
[02:05:44] <Bytram> so ~/rehash then ?
[02:06:33] <Bytram> cd ~/rehash && git checkout master && git pull upstream master && git push origin master
[02:06:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds good
[02:07:22] <Bytram> hmm, looks like I may have lost my connectivity...
[02:07:31] <Bytram> alread on 'master'
[02:07:42] <Bytram> your branch is up-to-date with 'origina./master'
[02:07:44] <Bytram> and then:
[02:08:15] <Bytram> fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/SoylentNews/rehash.git': Could not resolve host: github.com
[02:08:22] <Bytram> ping github.com
[02:08:25] <Bytram> lol
[02:08:43] <Bytram> ping: unknow host github.com
[02:09:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, perils of having an insane connectivity setup
[02:09:16] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:09:42] <Bytram> I guess I'm going to have to shutdown the VM and restart it.... or is there a daemon I can restart?
[02:10:07] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[02:10:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't ubuntu
[02:10:34] <Bytram> ISTR there's an init.d or something like that
[02:10:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> /etc/init.d/networking restart maybe
[02:11:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn you, SN users, I'm three comments from the hof
[02:12:17] <Bytram> so youre gonna hof and pof and blow their house down?
[02:12:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, not gonna cheat
[02:14:20] <Bytram> restart didn't help
[02:14:32] <Bytram> ping: unknown host soylentnews.org
[02:14:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> reboot it then
[02:14:51] <Bytram> yep
[02:15:07] <Bytram> is gone
[02:15:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> mkay, got my gentoo vm working well enough. now to let it sit a week or two then update it and see how long it takes
[02:15:35] <Bytram> starting again
[02:15:40] <SpallsHurgenson> "Have you tried turning it off and on?"
[02:15:50] <Bytram> off is done, on is ongoing
[02:15:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> if weekly updates are gonna take hours and hours, fuck gentoo.
[02:17:05] <cmn32480> I've had enough fun for one day.
[02:17:11] <Bytram> couldn't you set up a chron job to do it automagically for you at night
[02:17:20] <cmn32480> time for me to go to bed/
[02:17:39] <Bytram> cmn32480: sleep well and sweet dreams, my firend!
[02:17:41] <SirFinkus> TheMightyBuzzard: usually don't take that long
[02:18:01] <cmn32480> how did you know I have fire comeing out of my end?
[02:18:14] <chromas> You could use arch and install everything from aur git packages
[02:18:16] <cmn32480> but I'll take care of it before bed
[02:18:18] <SirFinkus> the real problem with gentoo is when you need to install something big
[02:18:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, i don't trust updates to a cron job
[02:18:36] <SirFinkus> like, you need to install openoffice to read a document
[02:18:40] <chromas> Is there a flag to have it build the packages but not install them?
[02:18:46] <cmn32480> open oriface?
[02:18:51] <cmn32480> that'll get rid of the fire
[02:18:53] <SirFinkus> fuck, libreoffice?
[02:18:57] <SirFinkus> idk
[02:19:08] <chromas> libre orifice: free the hole!
[02:19:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm unconcerned with install times. i'm concerned with having to rebuild OOo every bloody time there's an update upstream.
[02:19:15] <SirFinkus> ok, firefox, shit like that takes forever to copile
[02:19:54] <chromas> You just need a build farm. Maybe SpallsHurgenson will rent out his ceiling servers
[02:19:59] <SirFinkus> why did you install gentoo then?
[02:20:06] * SirFinkus is genuinely puzzled
[02:20:17] <cmn32480> or the pants drawer in his dresser... it's empty from what I hear
[02:20:23] <Bytram> lol
[02:20:46] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: looks like your pipeline refreshed my repo -- many thanks!
[02:20:58] * cmn32480 picks up the pieces of sirfinkus and mumble somethign abotu the leg bone connected to the uip bone
[02:21:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, wtf else am i supposed to use if i want good package management and no systemd?
[02:21:15] <chromas> arch with -nosystemd packages from aur
[02:21:22] cmn32480 is now known as cmn32480|sleepin
[02:21:28] <SirFinkus> deal with it
[02:21:36] <Bytram> yeah, I gots the LTS version of Ubuntu Mate, and just a week or so ago, it wanted to download 250+MB of updates to firefox, openoffice, etc.
[02:21:40] <chromas> use an apple
[02:21:40] <SirFinkus> but really, I'm pretty sure you can use binary packages with gentoo
[02:21:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[02:21:59] <SirFinkus> idk the details, but I'm 70% sure that's a thing
[02:22:09] <chromas> port pacman to slackware
[02:22:13] <SirFinkus> another option is BSD
[02:22:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> bsd isn't an option, it's a kick in the nuts
[02:22:40] <chromas> HaikuOS alpha
[02:22:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> might as well try hurd
[02:22:54] <chromas> Haiku boots
[02:23:09] <SirFinkus> I'll second the arch recommendation if they're still using open.rc or w/e the fuck
[02:23:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> arch is what i'm on. systemd.
[02:23:30] <SirFinkus> ahh, been a while
[02:23:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, aur isn't reliable or i would.
[02:24:10] <chromas> You could give it a go in a vm like gentoo
[02:24:21] <SirFinkus> does hurd have an x64 version yet?
[02:24:35] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles to himself
[02:24:36] <chromas> But the knight SirFinkus be right, yo, gentoo has bin packages
[02:25:30] * Bytram waits for 28.9 MB of updates to download to his Vm
[02:26:49] <Bytram> this is gonna take a while; gonna take a break
[02:26:51] <Bytram> biab
[02:26:59] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ git help
[02:26:59] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 198
[02:27:11] <Bytram> awww, c'mon!
[02:27:14] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[02:27:14] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 199
[02:27:17] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[02:27:17] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 200
[02:27:19] <Bytram> =)
[02:27:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, i needa smoke. then ima start my own distro. with blackjack. and hookers. in fact, forget the distro.
[02:30:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - California and New York Are Poorer than You Think - http://sylnt.us - cost-of-living-differential
[02:35:42] * SpallsHurgenson sighs deeply
[02:42:57] <SpallsHurgenson> I need more monitors
[02:45:57] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: not sure how helpful it will be, but I'll try and keep an eye on you, or is that not the kind of monitor you were looking for?
[02:46:27] * Bytram helpfully suggests using a smaller font and sitting closer to the screen?
[02:46:35] <SpallsHurgenson> do you have anything in a century-plus old iron-hulled warship?
[02:46:51] <Bytram> fresh out, sorry.
[02:48:17] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:48:18] <BrokeBotMounting> ^ 03Half the world's natural history specimens may have the wrong name -- ScienceDaily
[02:48:26] <Bytram> what's in a name, ayway?
[02:48:31] <Bytram> what's in a name, anyway?
[02:48:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> letters
[02:48:44] <Bytram> damn! you are QUICK!
[02:48:56] <Bytram> I admire your sense of humor
[02:49:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't spread that around, i got a rep with the ladies to maintain
[02:49:33] <SpallsHurgenson> just goes to prove science is all bunk and we should ignore anything those ivory tower intellectuals say. :)
[02:50:23] * Bytram supposes we should all now just listen to pantless SpallsHurgenson?
[02:50:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> better to just ignore the historians. history's only worth learning if it's useful.
[02:50:52] <Bytram> yeah, but you don't if it was useful if you didn't learn it, right?
[02:51:03] <Bytram> s/'t/'t know /
[02:51:03] <sedctl> <Bytram> yeah, but you don't know if it was useful if you didn't learn it, right?
[02:51:05] <SpallsHurgenson> better get used to it, Bytram; you'll all HAVE to listen to me once me and my army of starving marmots make me Emperor of the World
[02:51:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure you do. dinosaurs didn't invent anything good or i woulda heard about it on SN
[02:51:35] * Bytram prepares to crossbreed them with cliff-seeking-lemmings
[02:52:05] <SpallsHurgenson> get back in your cryotube, Walt!
[02:52:20] <takyon> more anti-encryption talk following the latest terror attacks
[02:52:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, you can have europe, asia, africa, oz, south merica, and the popsicle. north america's mine.
[02:52:44] <takyon> this time it's Cro-Magnon John Brennan making the case
[02:52:51] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[02:52:52] <BrokeBotMounting> ^ 03After Paris Attacks, Law Enforcement Officials Renew Push For Access to Encrypted Communications : All Tech Considered : NPR
[02:52:59] <Bytram> so how do the authorities plan to discuss how they deal with terists -- without crypto? yeah, right!
[02:53:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all good. we'll just go back to the days of it being illegal and doing it anyway.
[02:53:07] * SpallsHurgenson redefines "north america" to only include what is now Quebec (the rest is south america and north north america :)
[02:53:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, fine then. war it is. gotta protect my fishin holes.
[02:54:02] <SirFinkus> Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
[02:54:03] <SirFinkus> Just received a copy of @SarahPalinUSA new book -- a great read! Sarah is a terrific person.
[02:54:06] <SirFinkus> well, there goes trump
[02:54:18] <takyon> what are @you doijng
[02:54:31] <SirFinkus> ur mom
[02:54:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft, the kind of people who hate palin aren't gonna vote trump anyway.
[02:54:50] <Bytram> 'terrific person' != 'presidential quality'
[02:55:11] <SirFinkus> fair nuff
[02:55:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'true. i know folks who are dumb as a stump but really nice folks.
[02:55:21] <SirFinkus> I'm sure it'll get coverage though
[02:55:54] <Bytram> the donald is just trying to 'bridge' the gap in his polls?
[02:56:00] <SirFinkus> based on my watching of the debates, I wouldn't vote for any of these assholes
[02:56:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly but it won't matter. trump voters fans and hate the msm and most independents don't trust it.
[02:56:31] <Bytram> I didn't even have to watch the debates to figure that out.
[02:56:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> stoopid english
[02:56:48] <SirFinkus> I figured i'd give em a shot
[02:57:15] <Bytram> what'd you use? an AK or a glock or what?
[02:57:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, there's never anyone worth voting for. reagan and jfk are dead.
[02:57:35] <SirFinkus> I'm writing in myself
[02:58:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm voting dem. i either get corrupt clinton or batshit bernie. either one should burn the world down just fine.
[02:58:31] <Bytram> myself for president ... has a nice ring to it.
[02:58:52] <SirFinkus> it'll be like that time time voted "you" person of the year
[02:59:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i were voting my mind though i'd just draw an outline of my hand with the middle finger stuck up on the ballot though.
[02:59:05] * SpallsHurgenson sics the marmots on Bytram
[02:59:14] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[02:59:29] * Bytram|away decides it is time to head for bed
[02:59:30] <SirFinkus> can always write in "fuck you"
[02:59:48] <SirFinkus> my vote doesn't matter anyway, my state always votes democratic
[02:59:58] <SpallsHurgenson> argh!
[03:00:16] <Bytram|away> you can... but thenit si considered a 'spoiled' ballot, and in many/most/all (I dunno) jurisdictions, your remaining choices are deemed invalid.
[03:00:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd move if mine did.
[03:00:38] <Bytram|away> g'night everyone!
[03:00:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite
[03:00:44] <SirFinkus> it's actually not that bad here
[03:00:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> hows taxes?
[03:00:59] <SirFinkus> no state income taxe
[03:01:04] <SirFinkus> sales tax is a bit high
[03:01:05] <SpallsHurgenson> I hate that attitude of "it doesn't matter because my guy won't win"
[03:01:17] <SirFinkus> but liberal gun laws etc
[03:01:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> yerg
[03:01:42] <SirFinkus> well, it doesn't
[03:01:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> screw that. every time gun control is tried it leads to a huge increase in violent crime.
[03:01:57] <SirFinkus> liberal in the classical sense
[03:02:00] <SirFinkus> as in loose
[03:02:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, cool cool
[03:02:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> you in AZ or something?
[03:02:24] <SirFinkus> only stupid thing is a 5 day waiting period on handguns
[03:02:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> gun show
[03:02:40] <SirFinkus> if you don't have a CWP, which is $50 shall issue
[03:02:58] <SpallsHurgenson> it does; you are expressing your political voice. if enough people do that politicians DO notice even if it doesn't directly cost them the election. they see the way the populace is trending and they DO change* their policies to stay in office
[03:03:17] <SpallsHurgenson> * or at least change their stated policies :)
[03:03:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, exactly. they just have to step up the quality of their lies.
[03:03:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing changes.
[03:03:58] <SpallsHurgenson> but at least their lies will fall more in line with what you want :)
[03:04:00] <SirFinkus> statistically, the effect I have on national elections isn't worth the opportunity cost of voting
[03:04:39] <SirFinkus> if I was in a swing state, people might give a shit if I voted for a 3rd party
[03:04:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but i'm too smart to believe a politician if they're speaking.
[03:04:52] <SirFinkus> but we're a firmly D state
[03:05:35] <SirFinkus> nobody is going to be agonizing if some independent candidate gets .5% of the vote since the margins are so large
[03:06:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd rather have a dictator than these bastards. dictators are easier to get rid of. bang. gone.
[03:07:47] <SpallsHurgenson> change takes time... and its better that it does. the worst thing in the world is a fast-moving government
[03:08:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, worked fine in the late 1700s
[03:08:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> we just mucked it up later
[03:10:10] <SpallsHurgenson> do you know how much of a FLUKE that was? people keep talking about revolution and they all seem to think we'll be able to recreate the magic of 239 years ago, when the far more likely scenario is dictatorship and chaos
[03:10:52] <SpallsHurgenson> I'll take slow-moving change, thanks
[03:11:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> dictatorship ain't any worse than the guy in charge. could be a bastard, could be good.
[03:12:02] <SpallsHurgenson> says someone whos never lived in a dictatorship.
[03:12:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> well o course not. most of em currently is rotten fookers.
[03:12:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> different story in the US though. the populace is armed.
[03:13:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> armed well enough for every adult to be packing.
[03:14:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> want to dictator that you gotta make motherfuckers happy not oppress em.
[03:15:09] <SpallsHurgenson> except should america devolve into a dictatorship, they probably WOULDN'T remain armed
[03:15:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> not possible.
[03:15:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> not even the US military could defeat the US citizenry.
[03:15:59] <SpallsHurgenson> then its doubtful there would be a dictatorship
[03:16:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, for that you just gotta defeat DC
[03:16:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> two buildings blown up and yer set. one if you wait till the state of the union.
[03:18:21] <SpallsHurgenson> yes, and should a would-be dictator try that, he would need to dismantle the 1st ammendment or watch his conquest get ripped apart by internal in-fighting
[03:18:36] <SpallsHurgenson> (and knowing this, he'd probably do that BEFORE assuming control :)
[03:19:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> speech isn't a problem. nor the press. let them talk. the more they argue the easier it is to control them.
[03:19:41] <SpallsHurgenson> erm, 2nd :)
[03:20:08] <SpallsHurgenson> (well, 1st too. but I meant ursine limbs and got confused :)
[03:20:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nope. read your Machiavelli. a wise prince has an armed populace.
[03:20:56] <SpallsHurgenson> read it. Machiavelli is good philosophy but not entirely relevant to actual practice
[03:22:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, he lays it out really, really well. follow the instructions and you're pretty much guaranteed to keep power and be loved for it.
[03:22:34] <SpallsHurgenson> The Prince was also, in part, written ironically and probably not intended to be taken as a 100% rulebook :)
[03:23:10] <SpallsHurgenson> but we digress :)
[03:23:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima digress some more and go watch adventure time
[03:24:02] <SpallsHurgenson> your basic argument was that if we had a dictator, we could "solve" the issue of bad government easier. I disagree; history shows it is much more likely we would just be saddled with worse :)
[03:24:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely if you go by the odds rather than know beforehand
[03:24:51] <SpallsHurgenson> hence my initial stated preference that I'll stick with the slow path of trying to change things with votes and patience :)
[03:52:13] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm, Prometheus 2 was renamed Alien: Covenant. I'm not sure if this makes me happy or sad.
[03:52:32] <paulej72> when is going to be shown
[03:53:52] <SpallsHurgenson> 2018 or 2019
[03:54:36] <SpallsHurgenson> sorry, apparently October 2017
[03:54:40] <paulej72> I just read 2017
[03:55:03] <SpallsHurgenson> that's 'cause I just typed it :)
[03:55:35] <paulej72> it's a trilogy
[03:56:51] <SpallsHurgenson> its a PLANNED trilogy... but it's not an actual trilogy until all three movies are out... and if #2 sucks as badly as #1, there may not be a #3 :)
[03:57:20] <paulej72> well maybe this will be a revers matrix
[03:57:36] <SpallsHurgenson> now THERE's a movie that would have been great in a trilogy
[03:57:37] <paulej72> gets better as it goes.
[03:58:12] <SpallsHurgenson> but I guess the producers decided they had said everything that needed to be said in the Matrix and decided not to film any sequels
[03:58:29] <paulej72> I actually liked Prometheus. it left itself open for the rest of the trilogy to bring it back to alien
[03:59:03] <SpallsHurgenson> I liked Prometheus for what it WANTED to be, but hated it for how it actually turned out :)
[03:59:57] <paulej72> but to wait two more years to see the sequel is going to hurt a bit
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[04:04:47] <SpallsHurgenson> well, there's always 40 years of other movies, novels, comics and video games in the franchise to keep you entertained until then :)
[04:06:01] <paulej72> ture if they only made sequels to Alien :P
[04:07:13] <SpallsHurgenson> try Alien: Isolation :)
[04:09:10] <paulej72> premise is all wrong. Space truckers would not have families as they would be dead by the time they return
[04:10:40] <SpallsHurgenson> the aliens franchise never has been too clear on how its FTL works... but in prometheus the trip took only a couple of years, not decades
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[04:31:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Hangover That Led to the Discovery of Ibuprofen - http://sylnt.us - the-world-is-greatful
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[05:46:32] <crutchy> http://www.abc.net.au
[05:46:33] <BrokeBotMounting> ^ 03Venomous viper discovered by shocked factory workers in Dandenong - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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[05:54:29] <crutchy> america is a very autumny/wintery country
[05:54:39] <crutchy> even in civ5
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[06:37:54] <crutchy> only ciri knows the answer to that
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[11:15:32] <cmn32480> coffee++
[11:15:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1883
[11:19:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:19:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1884
[11:19:40] <cmn32480> mornign buzzard
[11:19:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin
[11:20:02] <cmn32480> shitty part is, I've been in the office for over an hour already
[11:20:27] <cmn32480> woke up to my daughter peeing the bed at 3am, and no going back to sleep
[11:21:30] <cmn32480> if this is how the day is going to go, I'ma start drinking now
[11:22:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't blame yas but i'd start with irish coffee so's ya don't gotta go without coffee
[11:22:34] <cmn32480> that's a good point....
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[12:01:05] <cmn32480> I hate shitty consultants.
[12:01:15] <cmn32480> good ones can save you a ton of work.
[12:01:26] <cmn32480> bad ones cause you more
[12:07:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Orphan Gene' May Have Potential to Boost Protein Value of Crops - http://sylnt.us - will-they-taste-like-chicken
[12:17:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, pay's the same though
[12:19:51] <cmn32480> i know.. but I hate cleaning up after people who are supposed to know what they are doing.
[12:35:01] <chromas> Bender: s/ck/ldr/
[12:35:01] <sedctl> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Orphan Gene' May Have Potential to Boost Protein Value of Crops - http://sylnt.us - will-they-taste-like-children
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[12:35:58] <AnonTechie> With respect to: ISIS encrypted communications with Paris attackers, submitted by frojack, Check out https://www.schneier.com
[12:35:59] <BrokeBotMounting> ^ 03Paris Attacks Blamed on Strong Cryptography and Edward Snowden - Schneier on Security
[12:40:11] <AnonTechie> Also, Surveillance State Defenders Use Their Own Failure In Paris To Justify Mass Surveillance https://www.techdirt.com
[12:40:12] <BrokeBotMounting> ^ 03Pathological: Surveillance State Defenders Use Their Own Failure In Paris To Justify Mass Surveillance | Techdirt
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[13:20:01] <cmn32480> we need another bot to take link submissions.
[13:20:14] <cmn32480> I nominate chromas to make it happen
[13:30:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh
[13:31:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could do it, i just don't particularly wanna
[13:34:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, now how to account for the required delay in submitting after getting a reskey...
[13:37:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i spose i'll write up some api magic
[13:37:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> really though, i figured eds would hate them some exec submissions
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[13:44:21] <cmn32480> they aren't awful for the most part.
[13:44:47] <cmn32480> some of them the topic is crap adn we delete out of hand.
[13:45:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> #reload
[13:45:12] <MrPlow> Reloaded
[13:45:15] <cmn32480> some are really good, and we will write the sub. but it is nice to not have to go looking for material
[13:45:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[13:45:48] <cmn32480> you are the best buzzard... we lurv you!
[13:45:54] * cmn32480 bats his eyes
[13:46:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> really only takes like 5m to do up a quality sub. blah @ somewhere<---link spouts: blockquote 1-2 sentences of editorializing
[13:47:10] <cmn32480> i know.
[13:47:29] <cmn32480> but that 1-2 min doesn't account for the eds sifting to FIND that material
[13:47:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, the kash dude hasn't gotten back to me yet. pretty sure it were a scam now.
[13:48:14] <cmn32480> interesting.
[13:48:32] <cmn32480> and I've noticed his name is kash.... lind like cash
[13:48:41] <cmn32480> s/lind/kinda/
[13:48:41] <sedctl> <cmn32480> and I've noticed his name is kash.... kinda like cash
[13:48:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. not very subtle
[13:49:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> and he got a grand out of one of the gentoo devs
[13:49:21] <cmn32480> geesh
[13:49:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> that i verified
[13:49:31] <cmn32480> I have move the original sub to the hold queue
[13:49:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:49:37] <cmn32480> I saw that here yesterday, I think
[13:50:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was kinda hoping it wasn't. woulda made a good story and original content.
[13:51:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, i forgot all about that sub
[13:52:10] <cmn32480> interesting... a google comes up with that name as a comedian
[13:52:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> #showme 1600 Pennsylvania avenue washington, dc
[13:52:29] <MrPlow> https://staff.soylentnews.org
[13:52:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, not very accurate
[13:53:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> #showme 1600 Pennsylvania avenue nw washington, dc
[13:53:22] <MrPlow> https://staff.soylentnews.org
[13:53:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> #showme 1600 Pennsylvania ave nw washington, dc
[13:53:40] <MrPlow> https://staff.soylentnews.org
[13:54:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> #showme 1600 Pennsylvania ave nw, washington, dc
[13:54:01] <MrPlow> https://staff.soylentnews.org
[13:54:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh
[13:54:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> #showme 100 n elm, stratford, ok
[13:54:35] <MrPlow> https://staff.soylentnews.org
[13:54:49] * TheMightyBuzzard laughs
[13:55:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it's a tree for certain but it's not an elm
[14:11:36] <cmn32480> I hate people who say "mute point"
[14:11:41] <cmn32480> it's a MOOT point
[14:12:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[14:12:13] <cmn32480> total pet peeve of mine
[14:13:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, using the wrong word because you learned english (poorly) by listening rather than reading annoys the shit outa me.
[14:14:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> then/than getting confused for each other is the worst though.
[14:15:36] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his chin
[14:21:39] <paulej72> ./me scratches his balz
[14:21:48] <paulej72> messed that up
[14:40:20] <cmn32480> don't break stuff paulej72, or we'll change your name to Bytram!
[15:09:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Could Paris Happen Here? - http://sylnt.us - scary-thoughts
[15:31:14] <chromas> Only if we don't let the feds peep into our encryptions
[15:31:16] <chromas> dept
[15:32:29] <cmn32480> I LOVE IT WHEN BOOZE SHOWS UP AT 10AM!
[15:32:45] <chromas> it's a sign from above
[15:32:52] <cmn32480> truly a blessing
[16:07:09] <alexbst> http://cydoniansignal.com
[16:07:11] <exit> ^ 03?Genders? are now Horoscopes | The Cydonian Signal
[16:11:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm just going to pronounce "Xumgender" as "chum gender"... "chum" as in the bait you throw in the ocean to attact sharks.
[16:37:59] <alexbst> curmudgeon
[16:38:00] <alexbst> hah
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[18:04:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima pronounce "xumgender" as "retarded asshole"
[18:10:58] <alexbst> they're all pronounced retarded asshole
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[18:14:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> Gender should be entirely irrelevant for anything other than romance and the begetting of offspring.
[18:14:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> And I'm happy to label anyone who thinks otherwise a retarded asshole.
[18:31:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, and this is why you fail. Pickle jar opening is also an important function of gender.
[18:32:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> Pickle jar opening is affected by strength (which is in turn affected by biological sex), not by gender. Which is why you're a retarded asshole.
[18:32:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> biological sex IS gender
[18:33:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> there is zero difference
[18:33:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> they are synonyms
[18:33:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> XX = you're a chick
[18:33:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> XY = you're a dude
[18:33:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> XXY = you're unfortunate
[18:33:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything else is made up bullshit
[18:35:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> Oh! The "chromosones determine sex determine gender" argument! Which has been proven to be untrue. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
[18:35:10] <exit> ^ 03Analytic review: nature and origin of males with XX sex chromosomes.
[18:35:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> aberrations do not disprove anything.
[18:36:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> no more than a cow born with two heads disproves that cows have one head.
[18:37:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> now you can act however you like and i'm not gonna care. just don't get your shit in a twist when you get called what you are.
[18:38:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> They disprove that "XX = you're a chick" and "anything else is made up bullshit" are both untrue.
[18:38:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, i just refuted that. you must now disprove my refutation.
[18:39:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> getting to use his or her at your preference is a courtesy. call someone an asshole and you get no courtesy, be polite and you might.
[18:39:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> xir can just suck a dick though. you're not a unique and special snowflake and you don't get your own pronoun.
[18:39:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> You want me to refute your claim that "aberrations do not disprove anything"?
[18:40:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, and the cited example
[18:40:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> or take "summer is hot". a chilly day does not refute that summer is hot.
[18:41:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's just an aberration
[18:42:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly though it boils down to don't be a rage-flinging douchebag if you want people to be courteous to you.
[18:42:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> "aberrations do not disprove anything" is just a variation on the No True Scotsman fallacy.
[18:43:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> not remotely. it's making use of a stereotype as stereotypes should be used.
[18:44:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> if 99% of something is one way, that thing is one way. aberrations are just that. it's why we have the word aberration.
[18:45:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> do please note that i am using aberration instead of freak, weirdo, genetic defect, or mutant, though all could be applied.
[18:46:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> so if 99% of males have scrotums that rest such that their left testicle is lower than their right testicle, then "males" with scrotums that rest such that the right testicle is lower are not really males?
[18:47:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> logical fallacy. testicular placement is not a trait required for maleness.
[18:47:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> their presence is all that's even expected
[18:48:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> but XY chromosones are, even though I've *just* shown you an example of fully functional males that have XX chromosones?
[18:48:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yeah, you'd be an aberration if you fell in the 1%
[18:48:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i've just shown you by the definition of aberration that aberrations do not disprove a rule.
[18:49:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> they at most carve out a very small exception
[18:49:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> but you've just admitted that there can be "aberrations" that are not so severe as to remove the individual from the class.
[18:49:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure, plenty of them. which chromosomes you have is not one of the exceptions though.
[18:50:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> that is the definition. if you managed to get testicles with XX, you're still a chick, just a very unfortunate one.
[18:50:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> what distinguishes which characteristics *can* be aberrations but not remove the individual from the class from the ones that *automatically* remove the individual from the class?
[18:51:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> Right now, as far as I can tell, nothing but your say-so.
[18:51:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> the definition of the class.
[18:52:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> regardless, you're simply wanting to redefine the word gender to not mean biological gender but to instead be meaningless.
[18:52:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> not gonna happen.
[18:53:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> Okay, so why define "male" as "XY chromosones" instead of "has a penis and testicles"? And who gets to make the decision of what defines the class?
[18:53:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> example: nobody outside your little social justice world has a clue what the made up word cis is and they never will.
[18:54:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> why? because we don't care about aberrations either pro or con. they're free to do their thing as long as they leave us the fuck alone and don't be fucksticks.
[18:56:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> you should maybe talk to some organic chemists sometime. ("cis" actually has a technical meaning in that field.)
[18:56:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> nobody who hasn't been assaulted by social justice gives two shits what anyone wants to do with their life. you had to create enemies before you could fight them.
[18:57:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> (Although I agree that certain uses of that word/prefix are stupid and unhelpful.)
[18:58:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> You never addressed this: Okay, so why define "male" as "XY chromosones" instead of "has a penis and testicles"? And who gets to make the decision of what defines the class?
[18:58:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> And what happens when the deciders change their minds?
[18:59:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, because wedding tackle can be gotten after-market. it proves nothing.
[19:01:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> and the link I provided early proved that you can get the wedding tackle at birth and STILL have XX chromosones, and be a fully functioning male (including fathering children, but I didn't check if that particular reference includes that fact.)
[19:01:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> i need a cigarette and then to work on the bot some more. cmn32480 wants irc submissions for some reason.
[19:01:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> Also opening pickle jars.
[19:01:43] <cmn32480> yes. he does!
[19:01:49] * cmn32480 crack the whip
[19:07:35] * cmn32480 looks at his broken whip in horror
[19:12:08] * cmn32480 mends his whip and brandishes it at TheMightyBuzzard non-menacingly
[19:13:31] <nick> kinky?
[19:18:01] <cmn32480> sure why not
[19:18:13] <cmn32480> using a feather in kinky
[19:18:22] <cmn32480> using the whole chicken is just plain weird
[19:19:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, think i may be coming down with the plague
[19:19:43] <cmn32480> rats
[19:19:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> chest's feeling a little bit out of sorts
[19:19:56] <cmn32480> fleas on the rats actaully
[19:20:08] <cmn32480> 'cuz you had to write code?
[19:21:43] exit is now known as xxy
[19:21:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> amoebas on fleas on rats
[19:22:44] <cmn32480> correct, good sir
[19:25:39] <SirFinkus> fuck, power might go out today
[19:25:48] <SirFinkus> ~weather
[19:26:03] <SirFinkus> #weather
[19:26:04] <MrPlow> Today: Windy with rain likely. High near 55F. Winds WSW at 25 to 35 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall near an inch. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph. Tomorrow: A mix of clouds and sun in the morning followed by cloudy skies during the afternoon. High 47F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph.
[19:26:36] <SirFinkus> ehh, 50% chance I'd guess
[19:36:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, that's some quality weather
[19:39:25] <cmn32480> sounds like a fine day to stay inside and sleep
[19:41:07] <cmn32480> ever push a button and pray that you dind't jsut f**k up the whole world of that system?
[19:43:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Early History of the "more" Command - http://sylnt.us - moah-more
[19:43:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i did something along the lines of set comment_text = "blah"; but forgot the where clause on prod once. saved by the control-c
[19:43:33] <cmn32480> i just did, and was on the verge of shitting my pants for about 2 minutes until the interface came alive again
[19:43:47] <cmn32480> you almost torched the comment DB?
[19:43:55] <chromas> neat. I had a pwoer flicker here; modem rebooted. didn't disconnect
[19:43:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[19:44:05] <cmn32480> damn buzzard
[19:44:24] <cmn32480> me thinks the community woudl ahve never let you forget it....
[19:44:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> coulda restored from last night's backup but there woulda been some.... what you said
[19:44:35] <cmn32480> and SirFinkus woudl have gotten out the pitchforks
[19:45:52] <nick> pizza for everyone!
[19:45:55] <nick> $5/each.
[19:46:06] <cmn32480> that include delivery?
[19:46:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> do you take payments in DogeCoin?
[19:46:45] <cmn32480> what about in dogshit?
[19:48:15] <nick> silver dollars work fine
[19:49:08] <cmn32480> rats.. I jsut ate all my pancakes
[19:49:09] <nick> no transaction fee with silver dollars, i think thats fair
[19:49:47] <nick> pancake addiction?
[19:49:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah but how do we know they're real with no blockchain?
[19:50:04] <cmn32480> they were silver dollar pancakes... :-(
[19:51:10] <nick> take them to that 'pawn shop' in vegas?
[19:52:31] <nick> now im wondering how much bacon for a silver dollar
[19:56:00] <cmn32480> 'bout a buck's worth
[20:00:48] <cmn32480> Alcohol: because no good story ever started with a salad.
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[20:08:01] <cmn32480> and there goees choroma's power
[20:09:23] <nick> :(
[20:10:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> now we got no title-bot
[20:10:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i'm not in any kinda shape to go coding MrPlow into one
[20:13:46] <cmn32480> i suppose we could live without one for a while?
[20:13:56] * cmn32480 starts to twitch
[20:20:55] <SirFinkus> oh, I'm getting out pitchforks again?
[20:21:19] <SirFinkus> I'm actually trying to train my short blade skill up
[20:22:03] <SirFinkus> while looking for that MQ ashlander camp
[20:22:13] <SirFinkus> MW feels so much bigger than later games
[20:22:22] <SirFinkus> since you have to actually *look* for thigns
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[21:01:00] <cmn32480> WOO HOO!
[21:01:07] <cmn32480> welcome back chromas
[21:02:02] <chromas> thanks ;)
[21:02:11] <cmn32480> where's yer bot?
[21:02:19] <cmn32480> tmb is going into DT's with no titles
[21:03:08] <chromas> it's coming
[21:03:11] <chromas> just like your mom
[21:03:30] <cmn32480> into geriatrics are you?
[21:03:59] <chromas> fried egg tits
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[21:05:44] <cmn32480> better than necrophelia
[21:08:32] <chromas> nothing's better than necrophilia
[21:11:16] <cmn32480> with SirFinkus Brand Pitchforks!
[21:14:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - State Board Moves to Sanction Prenda Lawyer - http://sylnt.us - karma
[22:31:13] <Gravis> chromas: not even poly-necrophilia? :P
[22:31:39] <chromas> good point
[22:31:54] <chromas> double-geriatric poly-necrophilia
[22:45:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Device Can Theoretically Trap a Light 'Bit' for an Infinite Amount of Time - http://sylnt.us - showing-you-the-light
[23:23:31] <SirFinkus> well, went for about a minute
[23:23:37] <SirFinkus> the power
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