#Soylent | Logs for 2015-10-23

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[00:00:21] <Ethanol-fooled> Well, shit. That derailed my little history lesson.
[00:01:27] <Ethanol-fooled> Gonna go outdoors now and buy me some 7-11 pizza and chicken strips. I'll probably stumble in here drunk during the weekend.
[00:01:35] <Ethanol-fooled> 'Night, fellas!
[00:01:36] <Yog-Yogguth> cya :)
[00:01:49] -!- Ethanol-fooled has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[00:12:09] <nick> evenin'
[00:13:17] <BadCoderFinger> Hey nick, how goes?
[00:14:07] <nick> it goes to the point a whiskey sounds like a good idea
[00:14:10] <nick> how about you?
[00:14:38] <BadCoderFinger> I'm waiting on beer day tomorrow, but that's pretty close!
[00:16:52] <nick> waiting on beer day...
[00:16:55] <nick> the horror
[00:17:01] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[00:18:18] <Yog-Yogguth> i nick :)
[00:18:41] <nick> i nick, you Yog-Yogguth
[00:19:01] <Yog-Yogguth> XD
[00:19:11] <BadCoderFinger> Somehow I get the feeling there's an ice cream joke in the works.
[00:19:19] <BadCoderFinger> I'm sure Spalls will oblige.
[00:20:18] <nick> i dont care about the joke, i just want some ice cream now
[00:20:34] * Yog-Yogguth realizes he has (yogurt) ice cream
[00:20:45] <Yog-Yogguth> doesn't go to well with cider though
[00:21:12] <BadCoderFinger> Sounds like an easy choice!
[00:21:21] <BadCoderFinger> Alcohol uber alles!
[00:21:51] <nick> no ice cream for me, all that i can find is some mac-n-cheese of dubious origin :(
[00:22:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> freeze it and pretend
[00:23:06] <nick> i'm more concerned at how ive decided a bowl of pasta can look suspicious, but it does...
[00:23:26] <BadCoderFinger> The mold certainly doesn't give it away.
[00:23:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd be more suspicious of the powdered "cheese"
[00:24:09] <nick> i'm not generally a fan of it, so perhaps thats my prejudice
[00:25:33] <nick> thinking of it frozen has made me feel a little sick though, so thanks for that :p
[00:27:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> mix some chili in with it. makes it not suck near as much.
[00:28:30] <nick> agreed, makes everything better
[00:29:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, it would have made my burger tonight slightly too big to finish but otherwise, yeah.
[00:32:35] <nick> easy breakfast tomorrow then
[00:35:54] <Yog-Yogguth> BadCoderFinger: hehe yeah :)
[00:36:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> feelin me some violent femmes tonight and i don't mean SJW chicks
[00:39:22] <Yog-Yogguth> music?
[00:39:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[00:40:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube violent femmes kiss off
[00:40:21] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[00:43:33] <Yog-Yogguth> will have a look later :)
[00:49:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kepler K2 Mission Spots a Vaporizing Exoplanet Orbiting a White Dwarf - http://sylnt.us - don't-mess-with-a-dwarf
[00:52:35] <SirFinkus> woohoo stout time
[00:53:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was thinking hairfoot but okay
[00:54:23] <paulej72> poop
[00:54:27] <paulej72> I get to go to bed on time
[00:59:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> say, yeah. fine idear
[01:06:17] -!- BadCoderFinger has quit [Quit: ENOBEER]
[01:16:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, pandora knows my ass tonight. goooood tunes.
[01:31:18] <SirFinkus> pandora always suggest songs that are too samey to me
[01:31:23] <SirFinkus> I realize it's designed to
[01:31:33] <SirFinkus> but I like a little more variety
[01:31:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> well when i'm in a punk mood i wanna listen to punk. i'm okay with variety in the genre but it better all be punk.
[01:32:24] <SirFinkus> in those moods, I typically just pick an artist
[01:32:37] <SirFinkus> don't really get genre moods
[01:33:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'about all i get aside from single artist moods.
[01:36:00] <SirFinkus> I just wish pandora was more risky with its song choices
[01:36:13] <SirFinkus> or there was just a slider or something to increase variety
[01:36:45] <SirFinkus> most of my stations end up as kind of a "top 40" of songs in the genre I like, very rarely adding new stuff
[01:38:29] <crutchy> coffee++
[01:38:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1779
[01:39:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:39:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1780
[01:39:39] <crutchy> work_coffee--
[01:39:39] <Bender> karma - work_tea: 1
[01:39:57] <crutchy> getting too used to the pods at home
[01:40:06] <crutchy> first_world_problems--
[01:40:06] <Bender> karma - first_world_problems: 4
[01:40:24] <SirFinkus> tea > coffee
[01:40:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> PODS!?! for coffee?!
[01:40:30] <SirFinkus> I don't need any "pods"
[01:40:42] <crutchy> pods > bricks
[01:40:53] <crutchy> fresher
[01:41:10] <SirFinkus> and I can make teabag jokes
[01:41:19] <crutchy> only unsealed when you actually make the coffee
[01:41:29] <crutchy> ok they prolly cost moar so that kinda sucks
[01:41:33] <SirFinkus> like my tea
[01:41:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> tea-- # my tea bag exploded earlier and i had to start all over
[01:41:51] <Bender> karma - tea: 506
[01:42:00] <crutchy> your tea is only unsealed when you make the coffee!?
[01:42:25] <SirFinkus> votes are rigged, karma is a lie
[01:42:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> welcome to america
[01:43:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> if it's good enough for our government, it's good enough for our channel.
[01:43:14] <crutchy> tmb, i'm sure gravis could turn that tea bag comment into a joke about libertarianism :p
[01:43:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> gravis could also eat a dick.
[01:43:36] <SirFinkus> something something tea party
[01:43:40] <crutchy> oh wait socialists don't have a sense of humor
[01:44:01] <SirFinkus> I like Gravis, he keeps things interesting
[01:44:02] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: that's ok, you can eat shit and die. :)
[01:44:06] <crutchy> something something... complete
[01:44:33] <crutchy> do you reckon anyone else got that SirFinkus?
[01:44:41] <crutchy> was pretty dry
[01:45:17] <SirFinkus> oh, crutchy, read an article you might be interested in
[01:45:28] <SirFinkus> since you're always bitching about this kind of thing
[01:45:47] <crutchy> i wanna see the new star wars movie now that i saw the preview. it had lots of baysplosions n shit
[01:45:57] <SirFinkus> http://blog.mpettis.com
[01:46:06] <crutchy> i bitch about a lot of things
[01:46:13] <crutchy> its what irc was invented for :p
[01:46:20] <SirFinkus> this seems to hit most of them
[01:46:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> damnit. i was hoping he wouldn't high-paced-action it to death.
[01:47:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i been avoiding the trailers cause i'm pretty sure they're gonna make me not wanna watch it.
[01:47:55] <crutchy> haha i've watched keen talk on youtube. he's a dipshit
[01:48:05] <crutchy> (steve keen)
[01:48:10] <crutchy> typical keynesian
[01:48:25] <SirFinkus> idk, the 3 star wars movies were pretty action packed
[01:49:06] <crutchy> all keynesians talk about is numbers. as long as they get their pretty graphs they don't care if it causes an entire country to go belly up
[01:49:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but they weren't trek2 levels of fucktarded
[01:49:18] <swiss> it's been too long since the last star wars movie, so i'm not really hyped
[01:49:50] <crutchy> swiss, but... but... baysplOSIONS!!! (even though i don't think michael bay had anything to do with it)
[01:49:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> new 2 not proper 2
[01:50:03] <swiss> crutchy: i'm not against it, just not super excited
[01:50:23] <crutchy> SirFinkus, yeah i don't think much of that article. it kinda says a whole lot of nothing
[01:50:40] <crutchy> you prolly figured i'd say something like that :p
[01:50:41] <SirFinkus> fair nuff, I know next to nothing about that kind of thing anyway
[01:50:55] <SirFinkus> figured you'd might want to take a glance at it at least
[01:51:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> Keynesians are fun. To punch in the throat.
[01:52:04] <SirFinkus> they're the inflation guys righ?
[01:52:22] <crutchy> keynesians can be debunked simply by acknowledging that they thought everything was going to be awesome immediately before (and even some after) the last 2 crises began, and that austrian economists were sounding alarm bells and explaining exactly what was going to happen (and also correctly predicting the consequences of subsequent fed policy)
[01:52:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're the FDR guys. create govt-paid busy work.
[01:53:27] -!- SpallsHurgenson [SpallsHurgenson!~SpallsHur@Soylent/Users/656/SpallsHurgenson] has joined #Soylent
[01:53:27] <crutchy> they also think that FDR saved everyone from the great depression, even though there was a bigger crash in '21 that was recovered from much more quickly because the government couldn't interfere in time
[01:53:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> .pants SpallsHurgenson
[01:53:56] <exec> SpallsHurgenson, ZOMGWTFBBQ YOU'RE wearing PANTS!
[01:54:06] <SpallsHurgenson> I am not! Take that back!
[01:54:25] <crutchy> lol forgot about that one :p
[01:54:27] * SpallsHurgenson pelvic thrusts to prove his point
[01:54:36] <SirFinkus> but more importantly, where do they stand on the canned vs bottled beer debate?
[01:54:42] * TheMightyBuzzard gets driven insane
[01:54:49] <SpallsHurgenson> I just spent 2 hours with my ISP trying to get online...
[01:54:58] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i don't think they've discovered beer yet
[01:54:59] <SirFinkus> ouch
[01:55:12] <SpallsHurgenson> .beer SpallsHurgenson
[01:55:18] <SpallsHurgenson> awww :(
[01:55:24] <SirFinkus> have mine
[01:55:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> if they'd discovered beer they wouldn't be nearly such miserable shits.
[01:55:27] <SirFinkus> .beer SpallsHurgenson
[01:55:27] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, s/./$/
[01:55:27] <sedctl> <crutchy> <SpallsHurgenson> $www :(
[01:55:32] <crutchy> derp
[01:55:37] <SirFinkus> $beer SpallsHurgenson
[01:55:37] * aqu4 gives SpallsHurgenson a cold can of beer
[01:56:51] <SirFinkus> I never remember all the bullshit prefixes for that
[01:57:40] <SirFinkus> you can message aqu4 to beer someone and get a query back of who you beered
[01:57:49] <SirFinkus> [18:57:14] SirFinkus: beer crutchy
[01:57:49] <SirFinkus> [18:57:14] aqu4 gives crutchy a cold can of beer
[01:58:41] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i think aqu4 commands are on the bot page
[01:58:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~help
[01:58:52] <exec> http://sylnt.us
[01:58:56] <SirFinkus> fuck looking things up though
[01:58:56] <crutchy> [[IRC:Bots]]
[01:59:13] <crutchy> ...or no bots
[01:59:20] <crutchy> [[IRC]]
[01:59:20] <SpallsHurgenson> I just wish all the bots would use the same damn prefix :)
[01:59:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> thought you had help all funkified now, crutchy
[01:59:24] <exec> 03IRC => 13Contact chat@soylentnews.org if you are interested in working on one of these projects. Also, the IRC Page has information about getting started with IRC, and the IRC vision is worth checking out.
[01:59:24] <exec> └─ 02http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/IRC
[01:59:35] * SirFinkus misses pingall
[02:00:04] <crutchy> tmb nah i made the feature but i haven't used it much. making features is much more fun than using them :D
[02:00:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> try #battlestations. it only annoys staff but it's pretty useful for that.
[02:00:35] <SirFinkus> speaking of, has our spammer come back?
[02:00:42] * SpallsHurgenson takes this opportunity of not talking to a phone-support monkey to shove some food into his mouth
[02:00:44] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[02:00:48] <crutchy> ~users nicks #soylent
[02:00:51] * Yog-Yogguth hopes it isn't him
[02:00:52] <SirFinkus> I thought we'd finally arrived
[02:01:01] <crutchy> not sure if that's a restricted command though
[02:01:15] <SirFinkus> #battlestations
[02:01:15] <MrPlow> CoolHand Azrael nick stdhell takyon stderr mrcoolbp Imogen paulej72 TheMightyBuzzard Bytram|away cmn32480 NCommander Subsentient zz_janrinok Deucalion
[02:01:19] <SirFinkus> guess not
[02:01:23] * SirFinkus runs
[02:01:26] <crutchy> ~users nicks #soylent
[02:01:28] <exec> _nsakey andytheabsurd aqu4 artificial azrael bender bytram|away chromas cmn32480 coolhand crutchy cyprus deucalion diginet everdred exec fatphil gravis imogen joe leebert loggie milkmaid mrcoolbp mrplow ncommander nick paulej72 popeidol regurgitator sedctl sirecote sirfinkus soyguest55726 spallshurgenson stderr stdhell subsentient swiss tachyon takyon themightybuzzard u x0908d3b2 xlefay yack yog-yogguth zz_janrinok
[02:01:40] * crutchy runs faster
[02:01:42] <Tachyon> >:o
[02:01:59] <Subsentient> That's nothing.
[02:02:02] <Subsentient> $pageall
[02:02:02] <aqu4> aqu4 nick stderr artificial NCommander MrPlow x0908d3b2 yack sedctl Cyprus
[02:02:02] <aqu4> paulej72 xlefay everdred AndyTheAbsurd takyon joe swiss SoyGuest55726 CoolHand
[02:02:03] <aqu4> Azrael Leebert mrcoolbp milkmaid FatPhil u Gravis chromas TheMightyBuzzard
[02:02:04] <aqu4> diginet Deucalion Regurgitator Bender _NSAKEY sirecote Loggie Imogen Tachyon
[02:02:05] <aqu4> Popeidol cmn32480 stdhell Yog-Yogguth Subsentient zz_janrinok Bytram|away crutchy exec
[02:02:06] <aqu4> SirFinkus SpallsHurgenson
[02:02:07] -!- Tachyon [Tachyon!~Tachyon@xuco.me] has parted #Soylent
[02:02:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> !whoup coffee
[02:02:11] <Bender> uppers of coffee are: TheMightyBuzzard: 1048, crutchy: 1022, Bytram: 240, Blackmoore: 237, chromas: 91, crutchy_: 51, cmn32480: 50, mrcoolbp: 27, TheMightyLaptop: 22, paulej72: 20, Ethanol-fueled: 20, mechanicjay: 19, arti: 18, mattie_p: 16, MrBluze: 15, AndyTheAbsurd: 13, TK: 12, Alberto: 10, Bytram|away: 9, exec: 9, everdred: 8, CoolHand: 8, crutchy__: 7, silverly: - 3 more
[02:02:13] <chromas> !bitchslap ciri
[02:02:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> !more
[02:02:17] <Bender> 6, keplr: 5, idetuxs: 5, matt_: 4, SpallsHurgenson: 4, Silverly: 4, monopoly: 4, juggs: 4, rand: 3, Blackmoore_: 3, systemd: 2, janrinok: 2, mattiep: 2, \: 2, ar: 2, prospectacle: 2, TheMightyBuzzard|Book: 2, Blackmoore|afk: 2, Bytram|afk: 2, cmn32840: 1, Bald-headed-John-Plooker: 1, chimp: 1, dx3bydt3_: 1, netctl: 1, xlefay: 1, cmn32480|sleepin: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|AFK: 1, - 2 more
[02:02:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> !more
[02:02:21] <Bender> TheMightyBuzzard|Laptop: 1, john: 1, bytram|away: 1, NetCraft: 1, botctl: 1, blackmoore|afk: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Out: 1, |: 1, cIRC_test: 1, SoyCow7650: 1, Chief_Piggum: 1, Blkackmoore: 1, Gravis: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Gone: 1, FatPhil: 1, geotti_away: 1, crutchy_fone: 1, SoyCow7625: 1, SedBot2: 1, Hedonismbot: 1, unixpickle: 1, crutchy|zzz: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Fishing: 1, Konomi: - 1 more
[02:02:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> !more
[02:02:24] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[02:02:25] <Bender> 1, San-Diego-Super-Chargers: 1, crutchy___: 1, cmn32480_travelin: 1, cmn32480|vacation: 1, SedBot9000: 1, crutchety: 1, LancePodstrong: 1, mrcool|livingthedream: 1, MrPlow: 1
[02:02:28] <SpallsHurgenson> oh good, the senate voted 84-14 in favor of CISA
[02:02:29] <SirFinkus> xlefay ;_;
[02:02:30] <crutchy> ooh even konomi is in there
[02:02:36] <Subsentient> We're all nuts. I love you guys, you know that?
[02:02:43] <SirFinkus> kobach too probably
[02:02:50] * chromas curses Konomi for metal gear online
[02:03:07] <Subsentient> I miss Konomi
[02:03:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> we love you too, subs
[02:03:13] <Gravis> SpallsHurgenson: yeah... those bastards
[02:03:15] <SirFinkus> she'd probably be offended we were talking about her though
[02:03:21] <SirFinkus> somehow
[02:03:22] <crutchy> don't buy into Subsentient's propaganda! he wants to moosh us into peanut butter for his hoard!
[02:03:22] <Yog-Yogguth> what Gravis said
[02:03:37] <chromas> ooh, she finally disconnected
[02:03:40] <chromas> /nick Konomi
[02:03:59] <crutchy> /nick shell_hax0rz
[02:04:05] <chromas> for a long time, she was connected but not in any channels
[02:04:13] <chromas> 'she'
[02:04:16] <crutchy> she'll prolly still in #boxedfox though
[02:04:16] <Yog-Yogguth> CISA & TPP & TIPP, it's going to be fun right?
[02:04:26] <chromas> just the TIPP
[02:04:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas++
[02:04:36] <Bender> karma - chromas: 119
[02:04:37] <Bytram> fun, sure, but for whom?
[02:04:55] <Yog-Yogguth> no idea
[02:04:58] <Bytram> chromas: sed s/TIPP/TIPP of the iceberg/
[02:05:05] <Bytram> chromas: s/TIPP/TIPP of the iceberg/
[02:05:05] <sedctl> <Bytram> <chromas> just the TIPP of the iceberg
[02:05:14] <SirFinkus> just the tip
[02:05:16] <crutchy> the US government needs a Department of Acronyms
[02:05:24] <chromas> well, first the TIPP, then they give you the shaft
[02:05:27] <Bytram> that would be DOA
[02:05:29] <SirFinkus> they probably have one
[02:05:39] <Yog-Yogguth> hah Bytram :)
[02:05:42] <SirFinkus> every law has to have a stupid acronym
[02:05:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not worried about it really. securing my shat gives me something to do when i'm bored.
[02:05:46] * Bytram smiles
[02:05:49] <SirFinkus> gotta be some guy's job
[02:05:55] <Bytram> or gal's
[02:06:17] <SirFinkus> Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001
[02:06:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> normally i'd be good and mad about it but Gravis already came out with that position so i'm taking ^^
[02:07:10] <crutchy> there should be a B.O.O.B.I.E.S. act
[02:07:17] <chromas> and a BONER act
[02:07:39] * SirFinkus fondly remembers the Critical Update Notification Tool
[02:07:52] <Bytram> Yog-Yogguth: if you like Three Letter Acronyms, and you like to play word ladders, then you would appreciate this 'dept' I once used on a story: DNA-SNA-SLA-TLA-TBA-NBA-NBC-NEC-SEC-SEO-SCO-TCO-TMO-GMO
[02:08:21] <Bytram> change just one letter as you move along and each one of those is,itself, a valid TLA
[02:09:30] <Yog-Yogguth> I'll pass on that :)
[02:09:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, actually valid or has a wikipedia page valid?
[02:10:08] <Bytram> I dunno about wiki page, but I can explain every single on eof 'em
[02:10:27] <Bytram> s/on e/one /
[02:10:27] <sedctl> <Bytram> I dunno about wiki page, but I can explain every single one of 'em
[02:11:16] <Bytram> there is one stretch, TMO is short for T-Mobile, but it is in common usage as an abbreviation for the company, so meh.
[02:11:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah i mean if you get stuck you can always invent one and start a wikipedia page.
[02:11:40] <Bytram> oh, that. ISTR some xkcd guy did something like that once
[02:11:52] * Bytram can't remember the word, now
[02:12:08] <Bytram> had to do with neologisms and something else
[02:14:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, bed for me. carry on.
[02:14:36] <SirFinkus> night
[02:14:44] * SpallsHurgenson rubs his tummy and burps contentedly
[02:14:58] * SirFinkus goes off to do the dishes
[02:15:09] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: sleep well!
[02:15:23] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: oh, what did you think of 'The Martian' ??
[02:16:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> book was better than the movie.
[02:16:20] <Bytram> I guessed as much.
[02:16:35] <Yog-Yogguth> cya TMB
[02:16:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> shoulda stayed home n watched pr0n.
[02:16:44] <Bytram> I enjoyed the movie, all-in-all, but in retrospect it felt like I was watching a documentary.
[02:17:07] * SpallsHurgenson perks up, "Did somebody mention p... never mind."
[02:17:40] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: sleep well, sweet dreams.
[02:20:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Graphene-Based Inks for High-Speed Manufacturing of Printed Electronics - http://sylnt.us - got-it-in-print
[02:23:44] <SpallsHurgenson> sure its high-speed... but is it cheaper than a factory full of 10-year old girls in a Chinese sweatshop?
[02:24:04] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[02:24:40] <Bytram> looks like Yack is napping
[02:25:15] <Bytram> =name Yackety_Yak
[02:25:18] <chromas> there's a 'feature' to ignore links its seen within the last few minutes, to reduce flooding when ef stops by with the same link over and over
[02:25:28] <chromas> but it doesn't pay attention to the channle
[02:25:45] <chromas> s/(l)(e)/\2\1
[02:25:45] * sedctl offers chrimas a /
[02:25:51] <Bytram> so, it stops listening for a while?
[02:25:52] <chromas> s/(l)(e)/\2/1
[02:25:52] <sedctl> <chromos> but it doesn't pay attention to the channe
[02:26:04] <chromas> for that particular link, since it just saw it in #editorial
[02:26:12] <Bytram> oh, ok.
[02:26:35] <Bytram> I was checking it out, there, and figured someone might be interested in it, here.
[02:26:38] <SirFinkus> HYDRAZINE
[02:26:44] <Bytram> thanks for the explanation
[02:26:55] <chromas> =set .config/title.emit.timeout 0
[02:26:55] <yack> k
[02:27:09] <Bytram> SirFinkus: r u commenting on TheMartian?
[02:27:14] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[02:27:14] <yack> ^✓ 03How the NSA can break trillions of encrypted Web and VPN connections | Ars Technica
[02:27:18] <SirFinkus> yes, since someone mentioned it
[02:27:38] <Bytram> besides the hydrazine, whadidyathink ?
[02:28:02] <SirFinkus> entertaining, if you can turn your brain off at certain points
[02:28:14] <SpallsHurgenson> I can do that! I'm an expert at that!
[02:28:37] <Bytram> yeah
[02:28:37] <Yog-Yogguth> Bytram I think that's already been covered it's the new improvements in breaking the primes in Diffie-Hellman (sort of the same as the Logjam thing)
[02:29:43] <SirFinkus> I mean, the tarp thing too
[02:29:48] <Bytram> my understanding of this one, is that there is a tremendous amount of reuse of certain large primes -- basically using the same 'key' across vast numbers of sites, VPNs, etc
[02:29:58] <SirFinkus> but they kind of lampshaded that one
[02:29:58] <Yog-Yogguth> yes
[02:30:06] <Bytram> so the cost / benefit ratio changes dramatically
[02:30:30] <Yog-Yogguth> yup Bytram, and lots of hardware and software only using one prime all the time
[02:30:39] <Bytram> it may cost a genuine fortune to find ONE 1024-bit-class prime, but the payout would be immense
[02:30:57] <Gravis> <Bytram> besides the hydrazine, whadidyathink ? <-- what's wrong with the hydrazine in the movie?
[02:31:00] <Yog-Yogguth> not actually all that expensive
[02:31:30] <Bytram> Yog-Yogguth: I think we may be talking about two different things
[02:31:33] <Yog-Yogguth> prime pair* (just to be correct)
[02:31:38] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:31:45] <Yog-Yogguth> nope don't think so Bytram
[02:31:57] <Gravis> Bytram: what's wrong with the hydrazine in the movie?
[02:32:01] <Yog-Yogguth> these are the same people and the same paper as in May
[02:33:04] <Bytram> 'not all that expensive' -- in the story I linked to above, they say:
[02:33:04] <Bytram> The cost for adversaries is by no means modest. For commonly used 1024-bit keys, it would take about a year and cost a "few hundred million dollars" to crack just one of the extremely large prime numbers that form the starting point of a Diffie-Hellman negotiation. But it turns out that only a few primes are commonly used, putting the price well within the NSA's $11 billion-per-year budget dedicated to "groundbreaking cryptanalytic
[02:33:04] <Bytram> capabilities."
[02:33:05] <SirFinkus> Gravis: Hydrazine is one of the nastiest chemicals in existance, extremely toxic, very easy to assplode etc
[02:33:34] <SirFinkus> but the guy in the movie is worried about the hydrogen generated in the reaction with hydrazine rather than the hydrazine itself
[02:33:40] <SirFinkus> to make water I mean
[02:33:46] <Bytram> Myabe we run in different circles, but a "few hundred million dollars" *IS* expensive to me!
[02:34:01] <Yog-Yogguth> Bytram: it's cheap considering you're decrypting almost everything once you get there
[02:34:08] <SirFinkus> hydrogen is tame compared to it
[02:34:28] <Bytram> cheap PER cracked-connection, maybe; cheap over-all not-in-my-book!
[02:34:49] <Yog-Yogguth> cheap for TLAs
[02:34:53] <SirFinkus> https://en.wikipedia.org , it's nasty stuff
[02:34:54] <yack> ^✓ 03Wiki: Hydrazine
[02:35:00] <Bytram> that we get to pay for, yay.
[02:35:06] <Yog-Yogguth> yup :|
[02:35:08] <Gravis> SirFinkus: but... they found hydrazine in my water and the fracking companies said it was ok to drink.
[02:35:32] <Bytram> who are 'they' and why would you believe them?
[02:35:42] <SirFinkus> did they?
[02:35:44] <Bytram> are you taht gullible?
[02:36:13] <SirFinkus> but if they did, yeah, don't drink that shit
[02:36:14] <Gravis> hmm... i wonder if this is related to all my hair falling out.
[02:36:49] <Bytram> Gravis, aka the naked-mole rat of humanity.
[02:36:51] <Gravis> or maybe the lesions of mine.
[02:37:04] <Bytram> maybe now you'll learn you lesions
[02:37:11] <Yog-Yogguth> Bytram: I looked into writing it up as a submission earlier this week because it was mentioned at Schneier's but there's not really anything new in it
[02:37:21] <Gravis> or way i can't see anymore
[02:37:24] <SirFinkus> hair falling out is probably genetics tbh
[02:37:29] <Bytram> I don't recall seeing it covered here.
[02:37:32] <Yog-Yogguth> but hopefully if someone can do better than me they will
[02:37:55] * Yog-Yogguth goes to look at the submission queue
[02:38:07] <Gravis> SirFinkus: wait... is water supposed to be flamable?
[02:38:14] <Bytram> we've put all our comms in protective envelopes but they are made of clear mylar :/
[02:38:44] <Bytram> Gravis: only after you dissociate the Oxygen and Hydrogen
[02:38:50] <SirFinkus> course not, but I doubt it has hydrazine in it
[02:39:07] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com nnnnneeeeerrrrrddddsssss!
[02:39:08] <yack> ^ 03DDiesel with Vin Diesel (Extended Version) - YouTube
[02:39:24] <Gravis> aww... you guys are just pulling my leg. i get it now
[02:39:28] <SirFinkus> admittedly, I could be wrong, but I thought the flaming water was due to methane or natural gas
[02:39:46] <Bytram> ^^ that matches what I have read
[02:39:52] <Yog-Yogguth> Bytram: yeah nobody has mentioned this latest thing, not sure how one would manage to write it up
[02:40:01] <Yog-Yogguth> since it's really nothing new
[02:40:06] <Bytram> umm,, carefully? =)
[02:40:40] <Yog-Yogguth> guess so, and finding the coverage from May (or thereabouts/everything Logjam)
[02:41:22] <Gravis> Bytram: <Bytram> who are 'they' and why would you believe them? <-- had someone check out ma well after i started coughing up blood.
[02:42:09] <SirFinkus> To: Recipients "Legit Business offer if interested"
[02:42:14] <SirFinkus> looks legit as fuck
[02:42:38] <Yog-Yogguth> Gravis: if you're not trolling you need to get lawyered up etc. Hydrazine is super-nasty
[02:42:49] <Yog-Yogguth> coughing blood will be the least of your worries :|
[02:43:04] <Bytram> ^^ that is definitely for sure!
[02:43:09] <Gravis> Yog-Yogguth: i was joking, not trolling. not sure why Bytram didn't catch on.
[02:43:23] <SirFinkus> http://pastebin.com message looks more legit
[02:43:23] <yack> ^ 03Good day, Pardon me if I invaded your privacy, I am Mrs. Anne Faye Sakura fro - Pastebin.com
[02:43:25] <Bytram> Hydrazine is used as rocket fuel; one fart and it'll be to the moon with ya.
[02:43:40] <Yog-Yogguth> XD
[02:43:41] * SpallsHurgenson perks up, "Did somebody mention farts?"
[02:43:49] <SirFinkus> it was checked by avast, it must be legit
[02:44:43] <Gravis> Yog-Yogguth: i get my water from the tap. can't trust well water out here... in the city. ;P
[02:46:02] <Yog-Yogguth> maybe it's just anecdotal but I was warned against all US tap water, no idea if that was sensible or not
[02:46:14] <Yog-Yogguth> by an American I should add
[02:46:24] <Yog-Yogguth> but I've never ahd to worry about it :)
[02:46:53] <Yog-Yogguth> the fracking stuff is insane though
[02:48:14] <Gravis> fracking is an absurd practice that never should started
[02:48:18] * Yog-Yogguth feels like the old grumpy guy he is
[02:48:23] <Yog-Yogguth> agreed
[02:48:54] <Yog-Yogguth> at least not in any way resembling what they've done
[02:49:11] <Gravis> it's part of the legacy of bush/cheney
[02:49:37] <Gravis> they are almost completely exept from environmental regulation.
[02:49:42] <Gravis> exempt*
[02:50:01] <Yog-Yogguth> two years and that will be a decade ago, can't just blame everything on people who are gone
[02:50:03] <Gravis> they are exempt from lots of every important enviromental regulation
[02:50:42] <Gravis> Yog-Yogguth: it's hard to stop a bad law when so much money/corruption are behind it
[02:51:05] <Yog-Yogguth> even harder when the new people don't want to :3
[02:51:08] <Gravis> Yog-Yogguth: but you are right, everyone since then is responsible as well
[02:51:28] <Yog-Yogguth> yup
[02:51:58] <Gravis> they don't understand the consequences of their inaction
[02:52:44] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: no pesky regulations slowing down the fracking biz. isn't it great?
[02:53:14] <SpallsHurgenson> I blame Microsoft http://www.fudzilla.com
[02:53:16] <yack> ^ 03Windows 10 might get advertising
[02:53:34] <Gravis> SpallsHurgenson: for what, being assholes because they are assholes?
[02:53:54] <Gravis> SpallsHurgenson: this is just exposing what the rest of us already knew
[02:54:27] <Gravis> SpallsHurgenson: i hope they get adverts everywhere and stick with it until everyone decides that windows isn't worth it
[02:55:15] <Gravis> SpallsHurgenson: i can only hope that there media player plays and advert before every video file you watch
[02:55:20] <Gravis> their*
[02:55:37] <Gravis> SpallsHurgenson: maybe inject some audio ads between songs too
[02:56:04] <SpallsHurgenson> come to think of it, I may have posted that story here before. Not that anyone commented on it then either :)
[02:57:31] <Gravis> SpallsHurgenson: what, you dont like my bleak embrace of MS love?
[02:57:36] <Bytram> methinks Buzz had the right idea... time for me to hit the hay, too.
[02:58:00] <SpallsHurgenson> sleep is for the weak...
[02:58:02] <SpallsHurgenson> ... and the tired.
[02:58:07] <Gravis> SpallsHurgenson: and the dead
[02:58:08] <SpallsHurgenson> one or the other, I'm not sure
[02:59:13] <Bytram> well, since I *was* up at 0500 to keep an eye on the system reboots, that might just be a factor atm
[02:59:33] <SpallsHurgenson> well, if you didn't keep BREAKING the servers... ;-)
[02:59:34] <Bytram> and, if I'm dead, I have some amazing typing skills from the great beyond!
[03:00:08] <Bytram> they were ALREADY broken, I swear! I was just telling ya about it, is all!
[03:00:10] <Bytram> =)
[03:00:31] <SpallsHurgenson> stop using facts and logic against me! it makes me look stupid :) :)
[03:00:45] * SpallsHurgenson gives Bytram a nice hot cup of herbal tea and sends him off to bed
[03:00:47] <Bytram> any weigh, thyme four mi too sleep
[03:01:05] <Bytram> ouch. it *hurt* to type that!
[03:01:17] <Bytram> have a good night everyone!
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[03:03:11] * SpallsHurgenson gets out the permanent marker and starts doodling on Bytram's face
[03:14:26] * SpallsHurgenson signs the artwork "Martyb" just to mess with him :)
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[03:23:51] <brainacid> Anyone awake?
[03:25:15] <SirFinkus> I am
[03:25:21] <SirFinkus> doubt you care though
[03:25:35] * SirFinkus isn't important
[03:25:47] * SpallsHurgenson doesn't care and starts doodling on SirFinkus' face
[03:26:52] <cmn32480> great googly moogly...
[03:26:59] <SirFinkus> take me to dinner first SpallsHurgenson
[03:27:58] * SpallsHurgenson knows this place that serves some really excellent hydrazine...
[03:28:32] <cmn32480> I really hope that doodling doesn't mean what it sounds like
[03:29:05] <SpallsHurgenson> cmns32480: well, it didn't BEFORE you mentioned it but now... :)
[03:29:15] <chromas> nah, that's diddling
[03:29:21] <cmn32480> I guess all you need is a biscuit
[03:29:25] <brainacid> I do care for all
[03:29:30] <brainacid> I dont even kill roaches brah
[03:29:38] <brainacid> Good evening to all
[03:29:41] <SirFinkus> what is that jainism?
[03:29:55] <brainacid> jaja
[03:30:00] * brainacid scoffs at *isms
[03:30:11] <brainacid> Awareness of Life buddy
[03:33:53] <SpallsHurgenson> say, what happens if I press THIS button?
[03:34:13] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... disappointing
[03:34:35] <brainacid> YOu get an error msg about stack pointer overflow underrun executive function disorder..
[03:35:31] * SpallsHurgenson tries again
[03:35:51] <SpallsHurgenson> damnit, I'm still here!
[03:36:09] <SirFinkus> for the record, Vermicelli with Lemon is fucking delicious
[03:36:11] <cmn32480> was it the big red one?
[03:36:24] <SpallsHurgenson> lemons make anything delicious
[03:36:44] <SirFinkus> the sauce is like alfredo, but with lemon in it
[03:36:59] <brainacid> boring crowd tonight, laterz
[03:37:01] <SpallsHurgenson> ah, lemonfredo
[03:37:02] <SirFinkus> probably the best thing I've ever made
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[03:37:17] <SirFinkus> we weren't entertaining enough I guess
[03:37:25] <cmn32480> show of hands... who is surprised?
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[03:37:26] <SirFinkus> for the polack
[03:37:51] <cmn32480> we won't miss him
[03:38:26] <SirFinkus> How do you sink a polish battleship?
[03:38:39] <cmn32480> put it in water?
[03:38:43] <SirFinkus> yes
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[03:39:08] <SirFinkus> What happened to the polish hockey team?
[03:39:12] <SpallsHurgenson> yay! I knew if I kept pressing that button it would eventually happen!
[03:39:38] <SpallsHurgenson> that sounds like the start to a joke...
[03:39:52] <SirFinkus> they drowned during spring training
[03:40:01] <cmn32480> they forgot their swim trunks?
[03:40:27] <Yog-Yogguth> I recognized one of the people on SN who's polish, he's a PHD in physics iirc :3
[03:40:28] <cmn32480> how do you sink a polish submarine?
[03:40:54] <cmn32480> we do have some VERY smart people here
[03:41:00] <Yog-Yogguth> but anyway, back to coal fired rockets ;)
[03:41:01] <SpallsHurgenson> hit it with a torpedo!
[03:41:04] <SirFinkus> now THAT sounds like the start of a joke Yog-Yogguth
[03:41:11] <SirFinkus> the phd in physics one
[03:41:15] <Yog-Yogguth> hehe I suck at jokes
[03:41:33] <Yog-Yogguth> he wrote an intersting thing about mars colonization I had read before
[03:42:19] <SirFinkus> What do you do if a Pollak throws a hand-grenade at you?
[03:42:34] <Yog-Yogguth> don't know
[03:42:40] <SirFinkus> Take the pin out and throw it back
[03:42:46] <Yog-Yogguth> heh
[03:42:50] <Yog-Yogguth> :)
[03:42:50] <cmn32480> sheesh...
[03:43:26] <SpallsHurgenson> not to godwin the conversation, but a lot of anti-pollack jokes date back to the nazis...
[03:43:52] <Yog-Yogguth> I thought they dated back to coal :P
[03:44:04] <SirFinkus> SpallsHurgenson kills the vibe again
[03:44:08] <SirFinkus> good job
[03:44:16] <SirFinkus> I have some Jew jokes too
[03:44:25] <SirFinkus> if you'd like to hear those
[03:44:40] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, those are fine... those date back to pre-medieval times :)
[03:45:53] <SpallsHurgenson> it's not anti-semetic! it's HISTORICAL! :)
[03:46:19] <cmn32480> ther are jokes about every ethnic group
[03:46:24] <SirFinkus> I suppose you know why jews have big noses then
[03:46:38] <cmn32480> some are more stereotyped than others.
[03:46:40] <SirFinkus> and how copper wire was invented
[03:47:21] <cmn32480> some would say that stereo types exist for a reason
[03:47:33] <cmn32480> I think stereo types exist 'cuz mono sucked
[03:47:49] <SirFinkus> but mono is open source!
[03:47:51] <SirFinkus> or something
[03:47:58] <SirFinkus> but not free software
[03:48:01] <SpallsHurgenson> mono is open sores?
[03:48:10] <SirFinkus> idk, fucking microsoft is involved somehow
[03:48:14] <SirFinkus> so it's bad
[03:48:16] <cmn32480> and with that little pearl of wisdom, i bid you all farewell for the night
[03:48:18] <SirFinkus> idk why
[03:48:26] <Yog-Yogguth> cya cmn32480
[03:48:32] <cmn32480> ~g'night everybody!
[03:48:34] * exec fanatically poops a DD cup of beer for everybody!
[03:48:37] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, you can't blame Microsoft! _I_ blame Microsoft! It's like my thing!
[03:49:42] <cmn32480> there is plenty of MS to go around to accept the balme!
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[03:50:25] <SirFinkus> everyone could blame MS for everything and it still would be an understatement
[03:50:51] <SpallsHurgenson> damn, I forgot to ask him again...
[03:51:26] <SirFinkus> fuck
[03:51:42] <SirFinkus> taco bell now has croissant tacos
[03:51:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Astronomers Catch a Black Hole Shredding a Star to Pieces - http://sylnt.us - galactic-cheese-grater
[03:51:45] <SirFinkus> rip my heart
[03:52:32] <SpallsHurgenson> its not your heart you need to worry about as much as your bowels... and likely your shorts
[03:52:58] <SirFinkus> taco bell has the best cost to taste ratio
[03:53:22] <SpallsHurgenson> only if you've never eaten real mexican :)
[03:53:40] <SirFinkus> I have
[03:53:51] <SpallsHurgenson> (somehow I expected ethanol-fuel to pop in suddenly and make some comment about cunnilingus there)
[03:53:55] <SirFinkus> doesn't diminish the tastyness of a cheesy gordita crunch
[03:57:36] <SpallsHurgenson> this conversation is very confusing
[03:57:46] * SpallsHurgenson contemplates pushing the button again
[03:58:02] <SirFinkus> taco bell is delicious
[03:58:06] <SirFinkus> what's confusing?
[04:04:45] <SpallsHurgenson> you're right, it is!
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[06:21:28] <Ethanol-fooled> Can't sleep.
[06:21:46] <Ethanol-fooled> Need some surger-grade anesthesia.
[06:21:54] <Ethanol-fooled> Or Michael Jackson's doctor.
[06:23:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What Do We Really Know About Osama Bin Laden’s Death? - http://sylnt.us - you-can't-handle-the-truth
[06:23:54] <Ethanol-fooled> Oh sheeit! I gotta comment on that one!
[06:34:59] <SirFinkus> I have the opposite problem, probably cancer or some shit
[06:35:22] <Ethanol-fooled> That must be nice.
[06:35:39] <Ethanol-fooled> I wonder if I have sleep problems as a result of the holes in my head from past meth use.
[06:35:53] <SirFinkus> naw, being tired all the time sucks
[06:36:09] <Ethanol-fooled> I heard that too many antibiotics as a kid makes people like that.
[06:36:31] <SirFinkus> I can sleep 14 hours a day if I sleep as much as I want
[06:37:23] <Ethanol-fooled> that sounds awesome. Sleep is actually pretty healthy for you.
[06:37:43] <SirFinkus> too much sleep like that is bad for you though
[06:37:50] <SirFinkus> and it really eats into the day
[06:38:05] <SirFinkus> if I don't get that much, I'm tired pretty much all the time
[06:40:16] <chromas> sleep-- # timesink
[06:40:17] <Bender> karma - sleep: 14
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[06:41:47] <SirFinkus> I'd make a comment about bin laden, but I'm super uninformed about it
[06:42:08] <Ethanol-fooled> Finkus, you can fake it till you make it.
[06:42:24] <Ethanol-fooled> The people who REALLY know probably aren't gonna be posting about it here anyway.
[06:42:27] <SirFinkus> my theory is he died of natural causes years ago, and we just staged a stupid raid against some nobody to save face
[06:42:41] <Ethanol-fooled> I'm in agreement with that theory.
[06:43:41] <Ethanol-fooled> or that he was killed early on and his body was captured and stored aboard the ship for a few years so he could be dangled in front of Americans to keep them more willing for war.
[06:43:44] <SirFinkus> might have bought it if there wasn't that "helicopter crash" like a month later
[06:44:07] <Ethanol-fooled> Yeah, that was suspicious as fuck...I also though the "stealth helicopter debris" looked fake and staged.
[06:44:46] <Ethanol-fooled> They're NOT going to let photos of shit like that just get out. They've sent motherfuckers to prison for 35 years for leaking less.
[06:46:06] <SirFinkus> it smells deliberate, if they just said "we got him" and there were just a bunch of dead guys in a compound somewhere, nobody would have bought it
[06:46:13] <SirFinkus> gotta "prove" we were there
[06:46:31] <SirFinkus> imagine the exact same thing happened, without the helo crash at the compound
[06:46:37] <crutchy> pies++
[06:46:37] <Bender> karma - pies: 2
[06:46:43] <crutchy> fuckin_pies++
[06:46:43] <Bender> karma - fuckin_pies: 1
[06:47:17] <Ethanol-fooled> And then, oh yeah, we just dumped his body in the ocean, okay, now everybody forget about Osama Bin Laden.
[06:47:32] <crutchy> Ethanol_fooled++
[06:47:32] <Bender> karma - ethanol_fooled: 2
[06:47:43] <Ethanol-fooled> Just like that. For such a momentous occasion, there was very little fanfare.
[06:47:46] <crutchy> friday night fockers!
[06:47:54] <Ethanol-fooled> is it Friday night for you?
[06:47:59] <crutchy> yeehaw time to.... do nuthin :p
[06:48:04] <crutchy> yup :)
[06:48:08] <Ethanol-fooled> Fug, it's only thursday night here.
[06:48:11] <crutchy> ~time
[06:48:16] <Ethanol-fooled> and I'm trying very unsucessfully to go to sleep.
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[06:48:24] <crutchy> ~time
[06:48:26] <SirFinkus> I'm already sobered up from tonights indulgences
[06:48:26] <exec> Friday, 23 October 2015 @ 5:48 pm GMT+11 - Melbourne VIC
[06:48:41] <crutchy> Ethanol-fooled, need red wine
[06:48:47] <crutchy> that puts me to sleep every time
[06:48:48] <Ethanol-fooled> Git SUM
[06:49:03] * crutchy goes to check wine rack
[06:49:08] <SirFinkus> every time someone mentions wine I'm reminded of that scene in pink flamingos
[06:49:11] <Ethanol-fooled> I'm nursing the first beer of the night and scraping resin from my pipe.
[06:49:47] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[06:49:47] <yack> ^ 03Pink Champagne ~ The Tyrones 1957.wmv - YouTube
[06:49:47] * Ethanol-fooled sings, "How much is that dog-gy in the win-dow?" * Arf-arf!*
[06:51:33] <crutchy> got one bottle left
[06:51:51] <Ethanol-fooled> what variety of red, crutch-dawg?
[06:51:55] <crutchy> cab sav
[06:51:59] <SirFinkus> good man
[06:52:00] <Ethanol-fooled> good sheeit.
[06:52:01] <crutchy> oh woops
[06:52:07] <crutchy> shiraz cab
[06:52:14] <crutchy> fiik the difference
[06:52:19] <Ethanol-fooled> still good. Probably a fraction of a percent less booze though.
[06:52:19] <SirFinkus> I almost got a stout aged in pinot noir barrels today
[06:52:26] <SirFinkus> from new zealand
[06:52:27] <Ethanol-fooled> That sounds gross, Fink.
[06:52:31] <Ethanol-fooled> Hangover city
[06:52:33] <crutchy> they all kinda taste similar when they only cost like $3/bottle
[06:52:37] * chromas goes around, spiking everyone's alcohol
[06:52:42] <SirFinkus> it was worth a try I thought, but too expensive
[06:53:10] <Ethanol-fooled> chromas, you best not denature my alcohol.
[06:53:31] <Ethanol-fooled> I'm already gonna go blind from chronic masturbation, I don't need to go any blinder.
[06:53:39] <crutchy> there's also some dubliner whiskey, but ima not going there
[06:53:52] <SirFinkus> fuck it crutchy, its friday
[06:53:57] <Ethanol-fooled> Hahaha, get slammed Crutch
[06:54:07] <SirFinkus> if you can't drink whiskey on a friday, when can you drink it?
[06:54:19] <crutchy> saturday :p
[06:54:21] <Ethanol-fooled> your missus and kids will wake up to find you slumped on the kitchen floor in a puddle of your own piss, reeking of liquor.
[06:54:29] <crutchy> yummy
[06:54:43] <Ethanol-fooled> Hahahaha
[06:54:51] <crutchy> i'll empty this bottle of red first
[06:55:03] <SirFinkus> well, that's trouble
[06:55:13] <Ethanol-fooled> When i was a kid I came home one Friday night and found my dad passed out on the backyard concrete patio.
[06:55:29] <Ethanol-fooled> Shit was so cash, my friends and I were all standing around him laughing and drinking his gin. I was 15 at the time.
[06:55:35] <SirFinkus> important question: was it a friday?
[06:55:56] <crutchy> i think every day is a friday for e-f now
[06:56:20] <Ethanol-fooled> crutchy, I'm pretty decent at self-regulation now...but I wish I could get more sleep so I spend less monies.
[06:56:29] <crutchy> aw this one's a bit sweeter than the usual
[06:56:54] <Ethanol-fooled> but yeah, as far as not working, I'm still there...though I'm considering an internship with my previous employer or working for their competition.
[06:56:55] <crutchy> i usually like a nice wood in my mouth
[06:57:07] <Ethanol-fooled> huh huh...heh heh
[06:57:20] <crutchy> nograb
[07:00:05] <Ethanol-fooled> Maybe Bin Laden was allowed to retire for his deeds in helping the CIA.
[07:00:15] <crutchy> i'd say so
[07:00:20] <Ethanol-fooled> he lives in Argentina with Tupac and Hitler and has adopted the name "Juan Diego"
[07:00:35] <crutchy> the saudi's are certainly enjoying their american alliance
[07:00:35] <Ethanol-fooled> he receives a modest stipend from the CIA.
[07:01:06] * Ethanol-fooled wants to see the U.S. pull out of the Middle-East so Russia can steamroll it.
[07:01:09] <crutchy> wasn't all the 9/11 dudes from saudi arabia?
[07:01:15] <crutchy> haha yeah
[07:01:23] <crutchy> russia is like the protoss
[07:01:48] <chromas> is china the zerg then?
[07:01:49] <Ethanol-fooled> Most if not all, crutch. And right after 9/11 there was a full-page ad in NewsWeek telling America what a great friend and ally King Fahd was.
[07:01:56] <chromas> millions of zerglings
[07:02:26] <Ethanol-fooled> chromas, that would be awesome.
[07:02:33] <Ethanol-fooled> A 3-way war
[07:02:35] <crutchy> the american terrans spend ages fucking around trying to kill the towelhead zerg, and then when there's nothing left but zerg, the russian protoss warp in and sterilize the entire planet from orbit
[07:03:09] <Ethanol-fooled> America could stand up to a Zerg rush, because we have "a gun behind every blade of grass"
[07:03:53] <Ethanol-fooled> But if the war starts soon we have our supercarriers, so they won't even reach. Though Aussies might get Zerg-rushed...then "fuck off, we're full" would have a whole new meaning.
[07:04:15] <Ethanol-fooled> And if you guys don't get them, your critters will.
[07:04:22] <crutchy> nah we would just train the zerg like we have the drop bears
[07:04:36] * chromas imagines a snake population explosion
[07:04:45] <crutchy> we would ride hydralisks to work instead of kangaroos
[07:04:52] <SirFinkus> saudi arabia is my litmus test to tell if someone really cares all that much about isis
[07:05:11] <SirFinkus> or iran, or whatever the boogeyman they're talking about is
[07:05:31] <crutchy> iran seems to be doing more to combat isis than america
[07:05:52] <crutchy> wtf is america doing anyway?
[07:06:11] <crutchy> getting killed trying to save kurds from what i read
[07:08:09] <crutchy> appaently canada pulled out of the jsf program, so its gunna cost straya an extra $100 million. i wrote to the defence minister and said we should buy 100 SU-35 flankers instead
[07:09:21] <crutchy> 100x su-35 prolly still cheaper than half a dozen jsf
[07:09:33] <Ethanol-fooled> HAHAHA, welcome to the watch-list, comrade.
[07:09:42] <Ethanol-fooled> you will be one of the first rounded up.
[07:10:22] <Ethanol-fooled> SO canada really did pull out, huh? Thought that was just a rumor.
[07:11:17] <crutchy> if nobody says anything these wankers spending my taxes are just gunna blow it on crap. they prolly would anyway, but i can at least bitch about it to get my moniesworth
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[07:12:44] <Ethanol-fooled> at least you did something about it.
[07:12:56] <crutchy> $100 million is probably spare change compared to how much US taxpayers are getting rorted by the jsf program
[07:12:59] <Ethanol-fooled> That program is a boondoggle.
[07:13:12] <Ethanol-fooled> Oh yeah. We're getting Goatse'd.
[07:14:19] <crutchy> and the su-35 kicks arse anyway. it would be an awesome plane to have
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[07:16:20] <SirFinkus> I'm just pissed because they're trying to get rid of the A-10
[07:16:46] <Ethanol-fooled> Yeah, the A-10 is still useful for a lot of the shit we're still doing.
[07:17:23] <Ethanol-fooled> What I want to know is, if that rumor about the Russkies blinding the Aegis combat system aboard that ship was true or just bullshit,.
[07:17:32] <Ethanol-fooled> (using electronic warfare)
[07:18:04] <Ethanol-fooled> reportedly the russkies had a jammer that shut down the system and left the ship a sitting duck.
[07:18:09] <SirFinkus> although for the people we're fight these days, we could probably be just as effective with biplanes
[07:18:18] <Ethanol-fooled> hahah, hell yeah Fink
[07:18:24] <Ethanol-fooled> that would be pretty awesome as well.
[07:18:35] <Ethanol-fooled> strafing them and shit.
[07:19:03] <SirFinkus> we could probably engineer the dastardly and muttley ones too
[07:19:44] <Ethanol-fooled> hahah, those vehicles were hilarious.
[07:20:46] <SirFinkus> those mozzies hate dogs too, so it's a bonus
[07:21:45] <Ethanol-fooled> http://www.dan-dare.org
[07:22:03] <Ethanol-fooled> Hahaha, the one shaped like a cocknballs is driven by Peter Perfect.
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[07:23:22] <Ethanol-fooled> Nowadays all that stuff would be considered racist and sexist.
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[07:24:48] <SirFinkus> or too violent
[07:25:35] <SirFinkus> it has mobsters in it, and hillbillies with a still in the back of their car
[07:26:39] <SirFinkus> this site is a trip back to 1999
[07:26:39] <SirFinkus> http://www.dan-dare.org
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[07:31:01] <Ethanol-fooled> looks liek chromas is playing with bots.
[07:32:52] <Ethanol-fooled> WWII era cartoons were even more dark and violent.
[07:32:59] <Ethanol-fooled> Tokyo Jokio.
[07:33:16] <Ethanol-fooled> Hahahahah! Man, that's a terrible cartoon. It shocks even me at some points.
[07:35:27] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[07:36:35] <Ethanol-fooled> heheheh
[07:36:45] <Ethanol-fooled> history is awesome.
[07:40:16] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com catchy song
[07:42:00] <Ethanol-fooled> the one where donald duck is sieg heiling is pretty funny
[07:42:28] <Ethanol-fooled> if any of the disney characters would be a nazi, it's donald duck. Talks like he's puking into a barf bag like all Germans.
[07:44:04] <crutchy> hehe towelie :)
[07:44:25] <crutchy> =nick mrhanky
[07:47:00] <SirFinkus> oh, it's an entire song https://www.youtube.com
[07:49:09] <SirFinkus> a little less subtle https://www.youtube.com
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[07:49:16] <SirFinkus> holy shit, it's even more racist
[07:49:32] <Ethanol-fooled> Holy crap. But that's one catchy beat.
[07:49:38] <Ethanol-fooled> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
[07:50:06] <Ethanol-fooled> it sounds like Super Mario World background music
[07:50:22] <Ethanol-fooled> HAHAHAHAHAH
[07:50:44] <SirFinkus> "the japs and all their huey will be turned into chop suey"
[07:50:54] <Ethanol-fooled> laughed my ass off at that line
[07:51:04] <SirFinkus> the opener was good too
[07:51:31] <SirFinkus> "we'll turn him around on democracy's lap"
[07:51:31] <Ethanol-fooled> Ah, man...back when America was the GOOD guy.
[07:51:44] <Ethanol-fooled> I liked the line about sending them to "the other place"
[07:51:56] <SirFinkus> there was an ass joke in there too
[07:53:02] <Ethanol-fooled> "kick like a mule"
[07:53:10] <Ethanol-fooled> that was a pretty cool line.
[07:53:37] <Ethanol-fooled> We had awesome propaganda. Our enemies propaganda sucked. Too serious.
[07:54:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - YouTube Offers Premium Paid Subscription "YouTube Red" - http://sylnt.us
[07:55:45] <SirFinkus> even our "serious" propaganda is hilarious now
[07:55:50] <SirFinkus> they old timey stuff I mean
[07:55:54] <SirFinkus> boys beware etc
[07:56:48] <Ethanol-fooled> Saw an episode of He-man where (like many cartoons in the 80s) every cartoon came with a moral at the end.
[07:57:23] <Ethanol-fooled> One of them was He-Man looking at the camera saying, if a bad person touches you in ways you don't like, tell another adult. Tell your mom and dad. Tell a priest. Tell a policeman.
[07:57:47] <SirFinkus> holy shit, haven't seen this one yet, it sounds like gold https://youtu.be
[07:58:06] <Ethanol-fooled> Das sexiss'
[07:58:29] <Ethanol-fooled> Might as well be a lesson on how to make a good sandwich.
[08:00:13] <SirFinkus> I think this might be a porno
[08:02:04] <SirFinkus> "from all appearances, you'd think she spent her life undressing"
[08:02:48] <chromas> photophobia addict
[08:03:49] <Ethanol-fooled> Probably a lot of softcore on YouTube
[08:04:08] <Ethanol-fooled> If they show uncensored G.G. Allin vids and Pink Flamingos, they will show anything else.
[08:04:52] <SirFinkus> but that's art
[08:05:20] <Ethanol-fooled> defecating on stage is "art". Well, shit, we've come a long way since DuChamp's toilet.
[08:06:01] <Ethanol-fooled> I actually learned about Piss Christ in an art class. The teacher was basically trolling the conservative Catholic majority in that area. It was glorious.
[08:06:26] <Ethanol-fooled> People slam art education, but they shouldn't - art classes are a great place to learn why censorship is a bad thing.
[08:06:44] <Ethanol-fooled> Seeing all the butthurt from religious people was worth its weight in piss.
[08:07:14] <Ethanol-fooled> er--gold.
[08:08:20] <crutchy> female art students are hot
[08:08:30] <crutchy> and apparently they put out
[08:08:37] <crutchy> not that i would know :/
[08:08:38] <Ethanol-fooled> yes, crutchy, that is true...but they're crazy/
[08:08:46] <Ethanol-fooled> i DO know from firsthand experience.
[08:08:53] <crutchy> i was stuck in a fucking separate campus full of engineers
[08:09:02] <Ethanol-fooled> so, a sausage-fest?
[08:09:12] <crutchy> not even that
[08:09:23] <crutchy> a nerd fest
[08:09:47] <crutchy> everyone may as well have had no reproductive organs at all
[08:09:55] <Ethanol-fooled> That's a good thing to be around other nerds in college. People studying intensive stuff should be around as few distractions as possible.
[08:10:18] <crutchy> yeah i barely passed some units as it was
[08:10:42] <Ethanol-fooled> what was your hardest class? If you don't mind me asking and being a nosey fuck.
[08:10:54] <crutchy> hmm. prolly dynamics
[08:10:58] <crutchy> half the class failed that
[08:11:26] <Ethanol-fooled> Oh man, I remember dynamics is baby physics, I struggled with even that. And it was algebra physics, no calc.
[08:11:34] <crutchy> differential equations without a computer is a bitch
[08:12:12] <Ethanol-fooled> even babby differential equations in Calc II are a pain in the ass.
[08:12:17] <Ethanol-fooled> each problem is a whole fucking page.
[08:12:37] <crutchy> it was only a 2hr exam, and the exam was 70% of the grade
[08:12:47] <Ethanol-fooled> Oh man, that's pretty stressful.
[08:13:02] <crutchy> was pretty shit
[08:13:31] <Ethanol-fooled> Did you take discrete math?
[08:13:41] <crutchy> that was typical for most exams though. we had some subjects that were 80% or 90%
[08:13:51] <crutchy> the material wasn't dynamics luckily
[08:14:08] <crutchy> fucking hate exams
[08:14:44] <crutchy> its just their way of scaring the shit out of students to make them study
[08:15:34] <Ethanol-fooled> That's harsh, though. It punishes the people who are otherwise decent but just suck at tests.
[08:15:39] <crutchy> the wine is going down a little too easy :D
[08:16:08] <Ethanol-fooled> discrete math is kicking my ass right now. I waltz in to the class thinking it's just gonna be statistics with some computer-science problems.
[08:16:18] <Ethanol-fooled> Nope. All. Fucking. Proofs. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[08:17:04] <crutchy> i dun even know/remember what discrete math is
[08:17:35] <crutchy> sounds almost as boring as stats though :p
[08:17:46] <Ethanol-fooled> predicate calculus, symbolic logic, mathematical induction, set theory, graphs/trees
[08:18:00] <Ethanol-fooled> ALL FUCKING PROOFS. FUG!
[08:18:42] <crutchy> ew wtf is predicate? i vaguely remember something about sets, with those upside down U things and stuff
[08:19:07] <crutchy> hate stats almost as much as i fuckin hate pikeys
[08:19:18] <Ethanol-fooled> predicate calculus is kinda like sets, except you're doing it with algebra and calculus problems.
[08:19:39] <crutchy> nasty
[08:19:43] <Ethanol-fooled> using the upside-down A and the backwards E
[08:20:05] <crutchy> even electrical theory sounds more interesting
[08:20:13] <Ethanol-fooled> electrical theory is awesome.
[08:20:41] <crutchy> didn't get to do a lot of it, but i did some AC and filters. pretty cool stuff
[08:20:59] <crutchy> sircuit reduction, logic reduction
[08:21:04] <crutchy> *circuit
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[08:21:21] <crutchy> sedctl: chromas hates you
[08:21:21] * sedctl is a 53-line gawk script, https://github.com
[08:21:35] * crutchy gawks at sedctl
[08:21:48] <Ethanol-fooled> did you do advanced filtering like Chebyshev?
[08:22:21] <Ethanol-fooled> or the simpler stuff like lowpass, highpass, bandpass
[08:22:31] <crutchy> i remember that name. we did filters using transfer functions
[08:22:47] <crutchy> fiik how it works now. that was over 10 years ago
[08:23:00] <crutchy> fuck. 10 years ago
[08:23:04] <crutchy> :<
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[08:23:32] <crutchy> SocialJusticeBastion: sedctl said you were gay. kill it!
[08:23:41] <Ethanol-fooled> hey bro, I have an FCC license with a ship-radar endorsement I've never used. Ever.
[08:23:52] <Ethanol-fooled> I know the feels.
[08:23:52] <crutchy> aw cool!
[08:24:07] <SocialJusticeBastion> Why do you hate gays, crutchy? You're homophobic and cisgendered
[08:24:10] <crutchy> one of my guinea pigs is doing paper mache
[08:24:16] <crutchy> nah gays are ok
[08:24:23] <Ethanol-fooled> Queers++
[08:24:23] <Bender> karma - queers: 1
[08:24:42] <crutchy> they get moar sex than me so i'm kinda jealous
[08:24:46] <chromas> we need a bot with a chimpout command
[08:24:58] <Ethanol-fooled> chromas, I have just the tool.
[08:25:37] <Ethanol-fooled> actually I broke LaDarius. I need to get to the bottom of why he crashes all the time.
[08:25:58] <Ethanol-fooled> he could use a bottom-up rewrite, which I could do if I weren't so lazy and distracted.
[08:26:03] <chromas> wasn't LaDarius written in C# or something?
[08:26:21] <Ethanol-fooled> yeah, I should probably redo him in Java.
[08:26:40] <chromas> language diversity
[08:26:50] <chromas> "Ya got ta diversify yer bonds, nigga"
[08:26:57] <Ethanol-fooled> Piratng visual studio has consequences. You crack your windows 7 and think that installing even the free version of visual studio ain't gonna fuck that up. but it does.
[08:27:34] <chromas> if you're not afeared of win10 you can upgrade it and your installation becomes legit
[08:27:41] <Ethanol-fooled> The original code of the bot is clever with how it works with IRC but isn't very stable.
[08:27:48] <Ethanol-fooled> no thanks, Chromas.
[08:28:10] * chromas wraps win 10 in peanut butter and puts it near Ethanol-fooled
[08:28:25] * Ethanol-fooled bites chromas' face
[08:28:53] <chromas> well if even peanut butter doesn't help, I guess microsoft has just totally failed
[08:29:24] * chromas gives microsoft a sword and a pillow
[08:31:20] <Ethanol-fooled> Microsoft just shot themselves in the foot.
[08:31:43] <Ethanol-fooled> Nobody's gonna accept that is the "new normal" with all the hackings going on.
[08:31:46] <chromas> with windows 8
[08:31:59] <Ethanol-fooled> Windows 8 has free downgrade rights.
[08:32:04] <Ethanol-fooled> and Classic Shell
[08:32:10] <chromas> then they said "well, what's the best way to remove this bullet? oh! how about another bullet!"
[08:32:54] <chromas> 7 also has free downgrade rights
[08:32:57] <chromas> downgrade to 10
[08:33:00] <crutchy> Ethanol-fooled, you could use my delphi bot :D
[08:33:12] <crutchy> even though it does fuck all atm
[08:33:39] <Ethanol-fooled> Nah, I don't use weirdo languages.
[08:33:54] <Ethanol-fooled> The next one's gonna be Java. Write once, debug everywhere.
[08:33:57] <chromas> Ladarius needs a web scraper so he can grab quotes from chimpmania
[08:34:07] <chromas> sounds contradictory to me
[08:34:11] <Ethanol-fooled> that's a good idea, chromas.
[08:34:29] <crutchy> wow. pascal is a weirdo language? i must be in 'the future' (tm)
[08:35:07] <crutchy> blue ribbon icecream is awesome
[08:35:29] <chromas> c# is a weirdo language because it has pascal heritage
[08:36:00] <crutchy> they took pascal and shit all over it?
[08:36:20] <Ethanol-fooled> The way it does accessors and mutators is kinda weird. I prefer to use methods rather than their weird set and get nonsense.
[08:36:27] <Ethanol-fooled> c#, i mean.
[08:37:53] <Ethanol-fooled> sometimes you want to know that you're changing a variable securely rather than just type class.member = x from outside the class.
[08:37:53] <crutchy> properties are more for visual components so you can set up shit in the IDE. you can use methods galore otherwise
[08:40:46] <Ethanol-fooled> that is true.
[08:48:50] <crutchy> but yeah getters and setters do seem a bit weird
[08:49:32] <crutchy> just by setting a property value you could be doing a fuckload of other stuff in the background
[08:50:03] <crutchy> good for some things but can be confusing
[08:50:40] <crutchy> i stopped giving a shit about whoever makes delphi after inprise
[08:50:48] <crutchy> borland was awesome though
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[08:52:44] <crutchy> pornoland delphi
[08:57:22] <Ethanol-fooled> My previous employer had C++ code developed with Borland 5
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[09:00:39] <Ethanol-fooled> Matrix math and shit.
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[09:26:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - University of Washington Stolen Hardware Had Details of CIA Lawsuit - http://sylnt.us - if-it's-valuable-encrypt-it
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[10:25:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:25:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1781
[10:25:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> donuts++
[10:25:12] <Bender> karma - donuts: 10
[10:40:58] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:40:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1782
[10:41:04] <crutchy> friday_night++
[10:41:04] <Bender> karma - friday_night: 1
[10:47:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, crutchy
[10:48:16] * crutchy is giving up on using dlls for delphi bot. if i bork a dll process it might still bring down the bot
[10:48:21] <crutchy> g'day
[10:48:34] <crutchy> need completely separate processes
[10:48:57] <crutchy> CreateProcess it is
[10:49:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[10:50:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, prolly best
[10:57:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - STEM Hiring, Now With Science - http://sylnt.us - wot,-no-bias?
[11:04:54] <SirFinkus> haha, this movie is great
[11:05:13] <SirFinkus> they tied some guy's guts to a bike and are torturing him by peddling the bike
[11:05:19] <SirFinkus> pulling them out more and more
[11:05:32] <SirFinkus> some high level creativity there
[11:06:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> too early in the morning for that kinda nonsense
[11:07:37] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com never too early
[11:10:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> erg... too early for me to be monkeying with templates too
[11:21:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, i gots no idear how to do that and it's not becoming clear by staring at it.
[11:26:51] <cmn32480|away> coffee++
[11:26:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1783
[11:28:32] zz_janrinok is now known as janrinok
[11:28:39] janrinok is now known as janrinok_afk
[11:29:28] cmn32480|away is now known as cmn32480
[11:31:26] <cmn32480> buzzard - Bytram has been getting a fair bit of experience with the site templates. Maybe he can help. What's good for the Goose, etc...
[11:32:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> isn't a template issue. stripe wants cc info stuck into a "dictionary" and posted to them but they don't say what a dictionary is or how to properly format one.
[11:33:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[11:33:04] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 8
[11:39:28] <cmn32480> oh dear.
[11:39:33] <cmn32480> nothign like clear documentation
[11:39:43] <cmn32480> ~g'mornign TMB
[11:39:48] <cmn32480> ~g'morning TMB
[11:39:50] * exec spontaneously postulates a caravan of pancakes towards TMB
[11:40:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll look at one of the prebuilt modules on cpan, see how they do it
[11:41:16] <cmn32480> good plan
[11:45:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, they use map
[12:00:58] <crutchy> ~g the walk movie
[12:01:00] <exec> [google] https://en.wikipedia.org(2015_film)
[12:01:08] <crutchy> good movie
[12:12:14] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[12:12:19] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:12:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1784
[12:12:33] -!- JamesNZ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[12:12:44] * Bytram wonders what happened THAT year?
[12:12:48] <Bytram> ~uid
[12:12:51] <Bytram> !uid
[12:12:51] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5923, owned by ewk
[12:12:52] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5923, owned by ewk
[12:12:57] <Bytram> lol
[12:13:01] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[12:13:03] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 52°F, mostly cloudy, wind NW at 14 mph, humidity 51% - Friday partly cloudy (38°F:51°F), Saturday partly cloudy (47°F:52°F), Sunday scattered showers (44°F:61°F), Monday mostly sunny (38°F:53°F)
[12:15:46] <Bytram> ~weather portland
[12:15:48] <exec> 03Portland, OR, USA - currently 43°F, partly cloudy, wind NW at 1 mph, humidity 89% - Friday partly cloudy (48°F:67°F), Saturday cloudy (48°F:66°F), Sunday scattered showers (53°F:66°F), Monday showers (48°F:64°F)
[12:15:51] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[12:15:52] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 43°F, partly cloudy, wind NW at 17 mph, humidity 55% - Friday partly cloudy (32°F:51°F), Saturday mostly cloudy (43°F:51°F), Sunday scattered showers (36°F:61°F), Monday partly cloudy (33°F:53°F)
[12:16:10] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[12:16:12] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 36°F, mostly cloudy, wind W at 9 mph, humidity 85% - Friday mostly cloudy (24°F:42°F), Saturday partly cloudy (37°F:48°F), Sunday showers (27°F:51°F), Monday partly cloudy (24°F:44°F)
[12:16:31] <Bytram> ~weather riyahd
[12:16:33] <exec> 03Riyadh Saudi Arabia - currently 90°F, widespread dust, wind S at 6 mph, humidity 22% - Friday sunny (69°F:90°F), Saturday sunny (71°F:93°F), Sunday mostly sunny (71°F:95°F), Monday mostly sunny (70°F:95°F)
[12:16:42] <Bytram> ~weather McMurdo
[12:16:44] <exec> 03McMurdo, Antarctica - currently -5°F, partly cloudy, wind E at 8 mph, humidity 58% - Friday partly cloudy (-9°F:-4°F), Saturday mostly sunny (7°F:13°F), Sunday cloudy (-5°F:7°F), Monday mostly cloudy (-7°F:8°F)
[12:16:51] <Bytram> Brrr!
[12:19:36] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[12:22:01] * TheMightyBuzzard smakes Bytram
[12:22:12] <Bytram> huh?
[12:23:20] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: what did you do THAT for?
[12:23:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://github.com
[12:23:39] <Bytram> oh, that.
[12:23:48] <Bytram> yeah, I was a little undercaffeinated.
[12:23:57] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[12:24:20] <Bytram> still, *correctly* identifying comments as spam does have value, right?
[12:24:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh well, email fired off to support@stripe to clarify their documentation
[12:24:36] <Bytram> I mena, what if I want to know if a user is a 'serial spammer'?
[12:24:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, not especially unless the user is registered
[12:25:08] <Bytram> well, we also have ipid and, umm, that other id
[12:25:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, you could look at that on an ac too i spose
[12:25:17] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:25:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> in that case though you should be looking at the comments not the mods.
[12:26:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> mods is done by users and i don't wanna go blocking an ipid from posting cause users downmodded them.
[12:26:58] <Bytram> conceptually: select cid, uid, nick from users, comments, user_info where (join stuff) uid.comment.mod is spam
[12:27:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd personally prefer it be because we all looked at it and said "yup, that's a spammer, for certain"
[12:27:10] <Bytram> that is absolutely gross, but I hope you get the idea
[12:27:24] <Bytram> agreed
[12:27:46] <Bytram> but how do we know if they are a spammer if a user cannot mod the comment as spam because it was already at -1
[12:27:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know about the https://soylentnews.org page, yeah?
[12:28:17] <Bytram> yes, that IIRC lists comments that HAVE BEEN modded as spam
[12:28:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - MRI Shows Heart Ages Differently in Women Than in Men - http://sylnt.us - as-long-as-it-keeps-on-beating
[12:28:37] <Bytram> but, #211 is saying that once a comment is at -1, you cannot mod it as spam.
[12:28:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh. luck of the draw there. you're not supposed to be able to downmod something that's already at -1.
[12:28:57] <Bytram> so, said comment wouold never appear on that list...unless
[12:28:57] <crutchy> from the mars-is-further-out-than-venus dept.
[12:29:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> there is much code in there prevending it.
[12:29:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/ding/ting/
[12:29:14] <Bytram> unless someone modded it UP, and then, and only then modded it as spam
[12:30:13] <Bytram> I'm just saying that there IS a valid use case for wanting to be able to mod a -1 comment as spam. do you not agree?
[12:30:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, uranus-is-even-further
[12:30:32] <Bytram> I'm not saying it is necessarily worth the effort involved in coding it
[12:30:38] <Bytram> just that it is a valid point.
[12:30:56] <crutchy> maybe let users mod and unmod spam
[12:30:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i agree but not enough to think it's a good idea to make a special use case for the spam mod.
[12:31:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> runs the risk of breaking moderation entirely in fun and exciting ways.
[12:31:43] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, sounds like a plan :D
[12:31:49] <Bytram> oh, I'm sure it does. I'm just saying that your original reply:
[12:31:50] <Bytram> This particular bug should properly be classified as "why the hell are we allowing spam mods to something already moderated down to -1".
[12:31:58] <Bytram> there IS a reason to want to do that.
[12:32:10] <crutchy> for the filters?
[12:32:29] <Bytram> so, is a problem but close as won't fix; I can live with that.
[12:32:53] <crutchy> if a comment is modded "+5, spam" and someone is surfing at say +2, they still gunna see the spam :p
[12:32:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, i'd like to find out why you CAN spam mod something at -1 already.
[12:33:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> and fix that
[12:33:36] <crutchy> tmb, for socialist justice!
[12:33:40] <Bytram> huh? My understanding was that the user was looking at a comment that was already at -1, and then wanted to mod it as spam.
[12:33:51] <Bytram> it was not yet spam, but should have been modded that way
[12:34:04] <crutchy> we need to spite anyone who doesn't agree with us, with spiteful spitedness!
[12:34:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas not a user, thas takyon
[12:34:29] <Bytram> so?
[12:35:21] <crutchy> if this must get nasty, may i suggest the .flip command :)
[12:35:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> no so, just slightly mocking takyon
[12:35:33] <Bytram> k
[12:36:20] <Bytram> back to the discussion; so do you agree it's a valid use case?
[12:36:21] <Bytram> I agree that it would be a bear to fix and am happy with closing it as "won't fix"
[12:36:27] <crutchy> git++
[12:36:27] <Bender> karma - git: 6
[12:36:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm thinking leave it there because he's saying that you can mod it spam still but the -10 doesn't get applied.
[12:37:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is a bug that you can still mod it.
[12:37:45] <Bytram> oh, how could I have misread that? Now I see what you mean.
[12:37:48] <Bytram> hrm.
[12:38:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, lousy roomie. bringing home a huge smoker/grill trailer instead of Markie Post.
[12:38:18] <crutchy> can you mod spam twice and have -20 karma?
[12:38:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, if you really want to and have multiple accounts, yeah
[12:38:52] <Bytram> crutchy: I don't know if you can do that, now, but I did test that when it first rolled out.
[12:39:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> and assuming it starts out at at least +1
[12:39:52] <crutchy> stupid wifi/intertubes... i have a 0.4-0.5 sec ping :/
[12:39:53] <Bytram> I recall modding a comment to +5, modding it as spam, modding it back up to +5, modding it as spam, and then flagging it as NOT SPAM to see if I could get a karma of +30 or so.
[12:39:57] <Bytram> =)
[12:40:41] <crutchy> just need an UPDATE query >;-D
[12:40:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> argh. i hate getting stuck on something and having to wait on an email to get anything done
[12:40:59] <crutchy> .poke PlowKing
[12:41:00] * exec pokes PlowKing
[12:41:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> #socialist exec
[12:41:13] <MrPlow> exec, you're a socialist!
[12:41:16] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: any luck with searching for it?
[12:41:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut?
[12:41:31] <Bytram> on the net or on Stackoverflow?
[12:41:57] <Bytram> the answer to the 'dictionary' problem -- that you're waiting for the e-mail reply
[12:42:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, it's not a proper term. it's just what they call a blob of information that their system can parse.
[12:42:10] <Bytram> who are 'they' again?
[12:42:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> stripe
[12:42:24] <Bytram> nice, non-collisional name :/
[12:44:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeesh, it's too early to need a beer
[12:44:49] <cmn32480> amen
[12:44:53] <crutchy> they have a sister company called 'mirror'
[12:45:05] * crutchy shows himself out
[12:45:29] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I assume you have checked these pages: https://stripe.com AND https://stripe.com
[12:45:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes
[12:45:42] <Bytram> :(
[12:48:46] <crutchy> we lost chromas
[12:49:16] <crutchy> 43 is a bit lower than the usual 51 :/
[12:49:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i blame SJWs
[12:49:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> and the reboot
[12:49:47] <Bytram> crutchy: where did he go?
[12:49:53] <crutchy> we're in danger of turning into a circlejerk o.O
[12:50:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> you do that then. i'm gonna step outside and smoke.
[12:50:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> let me know when it's safe to come back.
[12:50:57] <crutchy> Bytram, i dunno. he's literally about 13,000 km from me
[12:51:44] <Bytram> I'm soo confused; so what did you mean by "we lost chromas" AND "43 is a bit lower than the usual 51 :/"
[12:52:54] <crutchy> ~users count #soylent
[12:52:58] <exec> nicks in #soylent: 43
[12:53:25] <Bytram> Oh! I thought you meant as a user on the site!
[12:53:59] janrinok_afk is now known as janrinok
[12:54:23] <crutchy> there was a wasted opportunity for a superb brick top quote
[12:54:54] * Bytram is definitely not awake yet; yet another whoosh for me!
[12:55:00] <Bytram> coffee++ brb
[12:55:00] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1785
[12:56:54] <janrinok> hi guys
[12:57:42] <crutchy> <crutchy> we lost chromas
[12:57:49] <crutchy> <?> Well, where'd you lose him? He ain't a set of fucking car keys, is he?
[12:58:20] <janrinok> is there a button on those car keys that, when you press it, causes chromas to beep and flash his lights?
[12:58:30] <crutchy> gosh i hope not
[12:58:46] <janrinok> yep, on second thoughts that would not be a pretty sight
[12:59:06] <crutchy> i never seen the guy, but unless he looks exactly like my wife he can keep his lights covered :p
[12:59:29] <janrinok> I'd agree, but I must confess that I don't know your wife either
[13:00:10] <crutchy> anyway, off to count sheep
[13:00:12] <crutchy> ~time
[13:00:14] <exec> Saturday, 24 October 2015 @ 12:00 am GMT+11 - Melbourne VIC
[13:00:19] <crutchy> ~g'night #soylent
[13:00:21] * exec cohesively pours a pair of used panties full of $insert_beverage_here for #soylent
[13:00:21] <janrinok> have a good sleep crutchy
[13:01:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~g'night crutchy
[13:01:55] * exec brazenly offers a buzz saw of vibrating rooster sammich to crutchy
[13:02:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~g'mornin janrinok
[13:02:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> bah, fine
[13:02:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~g'morning janrinok
[13:02:24] * exec diabolically hurls a coffee++ mug of NCommander at janrinok
[13:03:13] <crutchy> .macro ~g'mornin * INTERNAL ~g'day %%trailing%%
[13:03:14] <exec> 02 *** macro with trigger "~g'mornin" and INTERNAL command template "~g'day %%trailing%%" saved
[13:03:35] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: good afternoon to you - having a good day today?
[13:03:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> bad_documentation--
[13:03:52] <Bender> karma - bad_documentation: -1
[13:04:14] <janrinok> you still struggling with the Stripe 'dictionary'?
[13:04:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> not especially. considering playing some vidya since stripe ain't especially prompt at replying to emails
[13:04:52] <janrinok> I suspect they simply mean a file with key:value pairs, but that would be a guess
[13:05:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> tried that. with n without curly braces.
[13:05:31] <janrinok> ah, k
[13:06:11] <janrinok> it might be a bit like the SN API - there has to be a secret time delay before they will acknowledge it
[13:06:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'not secret, i just don't know what it is on prod =P
[13:07:07] <janrinok> no, but their's might be...
[13:07:49] <janrinok> something to prevent a DDOS for example
[13:09:02] <janrinok> do you get any response or just an silence?
[13:09:07] <Bytram> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[13:09:22] <janrinok> hi Bytram !!
[13:09:24] <Bytram> El Reg referring to Daily Mail, so maybe just a wtf?
[13:09:28] <Bytram> janrinok: hi!
[13:10:36] <janrinok> birds of a feather, although the Daily Mail is marginally better
[13:10:46] <Bytram> orly?
[13:11:42] <Bytram> from what I've seen, El Reg will sensationalize, sure, but the underlying stuff tended to be accurate. Daily Mail was more like Aliens captured Elvis!
[13:11:57] <janrinok> can you prove that they didn't?
[13:12:13] <janrinok> at least the DM has a comics section
[13:12:18] <Bytram> no. but I cannot prove that they did, either.
[13:12:33] <Bytram> there just might be a grave with DNA that could be sampled, thought.
[13:12:42] <Bytram> s/t.$/t/
[13:13:07] <Bytram> really big rockets: http://phys.org
[13:13:09] <janrinok> it's like my anti elephant rock - I've had it for years and I am now convinced that it works. Never had a single elephant anywhere near where I live
[13:13:22] * Bytram calls the circus
[13:13:31] <Bytram> janrinok: what's your address? =)
[13:13:40] <janrinok> lions, and giraffes yes, but not elephants
[13:13:51] <janrinok> France -
[13:13:56] <Bytram> lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
[13:13:57] <janrinok> :)
[13:14:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, get a "malformed token" response
[13:14:17] <janrinok> it also seems to work against unicorns too
[13:14:56] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: so - just thinking aloud - you've tried upper and lower case etc?
[13:15:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, too many possible combinations
[13:16:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, i can save some time and let them do it....
[13:18:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i think i'll do that but my brain's kinda fried from trying to figure out wtf a Dictionary is all morning
[13:19:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> well hell, their shat uses js.
[13:19:24] <janrinok> anything that we can help with?
[13:19:27] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:20:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah. think ima go play some vidya and start again fresh monday after i got a response. hopefully.
[13:21:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: beforee you do, I gots a git quesiton for ya
[13:21:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> fire it up
[13:21:14] <Bytram> I made a local branch
[13:21:17] <Bytram> changed a file
[13:21:24] <Bytram> and about ready to send it back up
[13:21:37] <Bytram> ISTR I need to do something on github before I can do that, right?
[13:21:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, git add filename and git commit
[13:22:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait no. not on github
[13:22:51] <Bytram> my recollection was that I could NOT do everything locally; that at some point, I had to do something on github, too.
[13:23:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> pull request is the only thing you have to do from github
[13:24:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> you gotta git add and git commit and git push then your changes will be on github ready to pull request.
[13:24:00] <Bytram> and that's after I, umm, push (or whatever it is called) from my end?
[13:24:07] <Bytram> ahhh
[13:24:20] * Bytram goes to efer to his notes
[13:24:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> then you go to github and make a pull request
[13:24:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> then you do nothing and wait
[13:25:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> did i see something in scrollback about you changing something in the master branch btw?
[13:25:46] <Bytram> nope
[13:25:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good
[13:26:03] <Bytram> played with a template online -- nothing changed in the code, yet.
[13:26:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're not trying for the declined vs rejected changes again, right?
[13:26:42] <Bytram> nope, not that at all
[13:26:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent. you've had enough coffee then.
[13:26:58] <Bytram> fixed alignment of hits and comments on https://soylentnews.org
[13:27:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[13:27:07] <Bytram> made 'em right-justified
[13:28:00] <Bytram> based on feedback so far, I'm gonna wait a day or so before I push the changes up... make sure there are no unintended consequences
[13:28:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, did you change them to right-aligned on prod?
[13:29:00] <Bytram> yep
[13:29:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> psycho
[13:29:22] <Bytram> practiced on dev, first to make sure it worked as planned
[13:30:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i mean it's not gonna seriously break anything since it's purely a cosmetic change but the proper order is dev then github then wait for the site upgrade.
[13:31:11] <Bytram> I get that.
[13:31:16] <janrinok> Bytram: got to second what Buzzard has said
[13:31:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, you can also set up a git directory of your own on dev if you want to test how your code deploys
[13:31:39] <Bytram> but, occasionally, dev isn't like prod... wanted to make sure was same before I commited the change in the code.
[13:31:51] <Bytram> I can change it back easy enough
[13:32:05] * Bytram massages his slapped hands and hangs his head
[13:32:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> same as you set up the one on your box but put it in a dir called ~slash/src/rehash-martyb
[13:32:48] <janrinok> Bytram: it was not a criticism on my part, but if it had gone wrong and you suddenly were not available, nobody would know where to start looking
[13:33:00] <Bytram> not concerned about testing *deployment*, concerned that it would *work* as expected.
[13:33:04] <Bytram> excellent point.
[13:33:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> roger, non-template stuff is the stuff you need to test-deploy mostly.
[13:33:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> template stuff you can just slap in the in-memory templates
[13:34:08] <Bytram> thas what I did
[13:34:13] <Bytram> strictly a template change
[13:35:07] <Bytram> next time, I'll check around before making a change on prod.
[13:35:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> mind you, you CAN have code in templates that can bugger stuff up hard. stick to strictly cosmetic changes unless you're sure what you're doing on the in-memory templates.
[13:35:44] <Bytram> oh, most definitely! this was strictly static (HTML) text
[13:35:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> well actually no. go ahead n break dev. that's what it's for.
[13:35:59] <Bytram> I ain't monkeying around with any code stuff (yet)
[13:36:42] <Bytram> and that is where I started; made the change to the template in-memory on dev (using the template editor), confirmed it worked as planned, then made exact same change on prod.
[13:36:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> work on the api if you wanna get your hands dirty on some code. i don't think i have any outstanding pull requests on it.
[13:37:16] * Bytram considers
[13:38:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> simpler than the rest of rehash a bit but uses the same calls you'd be using in rehash for the most part.
[13:38:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> same way of interacting with the db anyway
[13:38:48] <Bytram> have not looked at that at all... I get the idea - thanks for the suggestion.
[13:40:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, that reminds me... we lost something from the templates on prod that we wanted to have but i don't remember what it was.
[13:40:31] <Bytram> btw, is there a reason to the madness of different naming protocols? sometimesiseethis, sometimes_i_see_this, and I'm sure there's prolly somtimesISeeThis
[13:40:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> it was only in-memory
[13:40:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, pick whichever you like but stick with it.
[13:41:39] <Bytram> so there is no convention that, say, template names use this_and_that or something like that?
[13:41:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> all three are all over the code with no rhyme or reason.
[13:42:18] <Bytram> IOW it's just a mishmash of whatever that coder felt like using at that time?
[13:42:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> i tend to go camelCase for subs/methods/etc and give vars names_with_underscores
[13:43:03] <Bytram> I'm liking that!
[13:43:22] <Bytram> db field names seem to be inconsistent, too.
[13:43:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> tend to mind you. i'm not entirely consistent on that either.
[13:43:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> field names should mostly all be blah_moreblah
[13:44:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> always entirely lower case though
[13:44:09] <Bytram> k
[13:44:48] * Bytram looks
[13:45:20] * Bytram looks at a web page he made up a year or so ago using data he scraped from dev
[13:46:32] <Bytram> yeah, I see mostly this_and_that, but there is the occasional thing like: story_text.relatedtext
[13:46:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> as to var names, making em descriptive is good practice but i don't care if you use $chickenbutt as long as i can tell what it does.
[13:47:12] <Bytram> changing that would be a big undertaking though; would have to change the schema and all the code that referred to it.
[13:47:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> story_text.relatedtext is table story_text and column relatedtext
[13:47:43] <Bytram> maybe if we decided to move to PostressQL or whatever it's called
[13:47:51] <Bytram> yes
[13:47:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> or did ya mean the missing underscore over on relatedtext
[13:47:59] <Bytram> zactly
[13:48:13] <Bytram> there is also introtext and bodytext
[13:48:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. don't sweat that. long as it's consistent.
[13:48:26] <Bytram> yar
[13:49:00] <Bytram> cost benefit, atm, not worth getting into. if we decide to change backend support to a different db? then I'd be all over it.
[13:49:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> never worth getting into. you'd have to change the dumped data and then go through all of rehash and change every reference.
[13:50:25] <Bytram> and your point is? =)
[13:50:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> you'd probably miss some and things would break.
[13:51:02] <Bytram> that's my JOB! ;)
[13:51:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair point
[13:52:07] <Bytram> I understand. not a priority, but if you don't mind and it's in a restricted area of the code, I'd like to clean things up as I go... I can't grep semantics, but I CAN grep syntax!
[13:53:15] <Bytram> generally along the lines: IF I am in that code anyway, I might as well clean as I go.
[13:59:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 23andMe Genetic Test Relaunches, but Transparency Report Reveals Law Enforcement Data Requests - http://sylnt.us - simple-solution
[14:06:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, welcome to do that to the API if it's not already done. everything's in two files. api.pl and API.pm
[14:06:16] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:06:17] <Bytram> ythansk
[14:06:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be mostly camelCase on subs and vars_with_underscores
[14:06:57] <Bytram> nice!
[14:07:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> make it all that way if i screwed around and didn't already, if ya like.
[14:07:33] <Bytram> and what is the reason for the capitalization of api.pl (lowercase) and API.pm (uppercase)?
[14:08:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, mostly because of conflicting traditions
[14:08:16] <Bytram> why am I not surprised? and that would be?
[14:08:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> cgi scripts, and later mod_perl scripts, are traditionally always lower case.
[14:09:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl modules though are traditionally Capitalized::On::The::First::Letter unless the name is an acronym in which case it gets all caps.
[14:10:23] <Bytram> so that would be COTFL.pm ??
[14:11:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, it'd be Letter.pm in the Capitalized/On/The/First/ directory.
[14:11:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> generally
[14:12:00] <Bytram> Oh! That answered a couple more questions, too! thanks!
[14:16:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[14:17:14] <Bytram> k
[14:17:29] <Bytram> thanks a bunch for the info -- making more sense, now.
[14:18:17] <Bytram> break time for me, too.
[14:18:19] <Bytram> back in a while
[14:37:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> out for vidya. back later.
[14:44:28] <Bytram> k
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[15:21:06] <Bytram|away> heading out for the day; will prolly check back in later.
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[15:30:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Tensegrity Robot to Clean and Explore Ducts - http://sylnt.us
[17:01:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mythbusters Canceled - http://sylnt.us - first-Dirty-Jobs...-now-this!
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[18:20:39] <takyon> will submit this later if no one else does
[18:20:41] <takyon> https://torrentfreak.com
[18:58:28] <nick> i should probably follow the goings on in iceland more, seems to be interesting stuff going on over there
[19:03:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Life On Earth May Have Begun 300m Years Earlier Than Previously Thought - http://sylnt.us - primordial-ooze
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[19:56:02] <Gravis> cmn32480|away: the title "Mythbusters Canceled" is incorrect. https://soylentnews.org
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[20:01:56] <nick> i have updated it
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[20:34:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mythbusters to End After Next Season - http://sylnt.us - first-Dirty-Jobs...-now-this! || Your Junk Mail Shows if You’re Rich or Poor - http://sylnt.us - send-it-to-the-shredder
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[20:36:27] <dyingtolive> We're getting spammed pretty hard in article. https://soylentnews.org
[20:36:28] <Troll> ^ 03SN article:  Your Junk Mail Shows if You’re Rich or Poor 04(41 comments)
[20:36:32] <dyingtolive> thought you might want to know.
[20:36:41] <nick> hey dyingtolive
[20:37:13] <nick> think we have dealt with it, but thanks for letting us know :)
[20:37:31] <dyingtolive> no worries. figured you were on it. just thought i'd say something.
[20:37:53] * TheMightyBuzzard tips his hat to dyingtolive
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[20:42:20] <Yog-Yogguth> is there a function to remove the all verified spam from the db? at least the duplicates that haven't been responded to?
[20:50:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> we could but it would be a pain. easier to just change the filter for that story to >= 0
[20:50:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> we really really don't like deleting comments from a technical point of view
[20:51:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> okey doke folks, i gotta step outside for a smoke and to help someone back up a huge trailer.
[20:51:37] <Yog-Yogguth> cya :)
[21:03:41] <Gravis_> oh no, my spamming efforts... i mean... umm.. nm. ;P
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[21:04:50] <Gravis> dyingtolive: retarded ACs is why i automod AC posts to -6
[21:05:56] <Gravis> dyingtolive: if someone really wants to say something, they can take the effort to register/login
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[21:09:01] <dyingtolive> no doubt. surprising that they went through such effort for something that got shut down relatively quickly. hopefully that's as diiscouragement.
[21:10:22] <dyingtolive> stupid keyboard intermittently registers multiple 'i' presses each time i hit it. i have another one on order. being wrecking havoc in code. i never noticed how many variables i use that have an i in them before.
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[21:30:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm kinda surprised he stopped after just two ip addresses
[21:34:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, bout to have a house fulla kiddos what need to be made to eat and brush hair and wash someone's backside
[21:35:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> you lot's on your own. see ya monday.
[21:36:04] * nick hat tip
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[22:33:00] <takyon> http://forums.theregister.co.uk
[22:33:02] <Troll> ^ 03Bacon as deadly as cigarettes and asbestos • The Register Forums
[22:33:22] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[22:33:22] <Troll> ^ 03Networking ace reveals: Intel planned NVMe for XPoint • The Register
[22:34:23] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[22:34:23] <Troll> ^ 03American robocallers to be shamed in public lists • The Register
[22:34:34] <takyon> http://www.hpcwire.com
[22:34:38] <Troll> ^ 03Dell's DSS HPC Business Is Ramping Up
[22:34:55] <takyon> https://theintercept.com
[22:34:56] <Troll> ^ 03Lockheed Martin, Boeing Rally Around Saudi Arabia, Wave Off Humanitarian Concerns
[22:36:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Can Apache Spark Process 100 Terabytes of Data in Interactive Mode? - http://sylnt.us - that's-a-lot-of-stuff
[22:36:55] <takyon> https://torrentfreak.com
[22:36:56] <Troll> ^ 03Pirate Party Beats Iceland's Government Coalition in the Polls - TorrentFreak
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[22:51:12] <takyon> https://theintercept.com
[22:51:12] <Troll> ^ 03Rare Veto Keeps Obama’s Options Open For Closing Gitmo
[23:05:47] <takyon> http://nextbigfuture.com
[23:05:48] <Troll> ^ 03Next Big Future: Google Alphabet will spend billions on its moonshot technologies like self driving cars and anti-aging
[23:15:14] <crutchy> http://www.techradar.com
[23:15:15] <Troll> ^ 03Android to get new emojis after Apple flipped the bird | TechRadar
[23:30:10] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[23:30:11] <Troll> ^ 03Democratic Debate Cold Open | SNL - YouTube
[23:32:34] <takyon> https://theintercept.com
[23:32:35] <Troll> ^ 03Drones, IBM, and the Big Data of Death
[23:35:13] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[23:35:14] <Troll> ^ 03New Horizons: Pluto? Been there, done that – now for something 6.4 billion km away • The Register
[23:36:48] * crutchy can't wait till darth vader builds the death star. ima so gunna apply for a job there. i'll just try to arrange a few days annual leave when luke skywalker shows up
[23:37:36] <takyon> the Emperor's vacation policies suck though
[23:37:37] <takyon> http://www.hpcwire.com
[23:37:40] <Troll> ^ 03World’s First Trans-Pacific 100-Gigabit RE Network Established
[23:38:42] <takyon> https://theintercept.com
[23:38:43] <Troll> ^ 03U.N. Report Calls on Governments to Protect Whistleblowers Like Snowden, Not Prosecute Them
[23:39:13] <crutchy> ~weather
[23:39:15] <exec> 03Melbourne VIC - currently 14°C, partly cloudy, wind NE at 8 km/h, humidity 67% - Saturday mostly sunny (10°C:23°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (14°C:31°C), Monday scattered showers (11°C:17°C), Tuesday mostly sunny (14°C:26°C)
[23:42:20] <crutchy> ~weather-prefs color 07
[23:42:21] <exec> successfully saved prefs
[23:42:25] <crutchy> ~weather
[23:42:26] <exec> 07Melbourne VIC - currently 14°C, partly cloudy, wind NE at 8 km/h, humidity 67% - Saturday mostly sunny (10°C:23°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (14°C:31°C), Monday scattered showers (11°C:17°C), Tuesday mostly sunny (15°C:26°C)
[23:42:49] <crutchy> ergh
[23:42:52] <crutchy> ~weather-prefs color 06
[23:42:53] <exec> successfully saved prefs
[23:42:55] <crutchy> ~weather
[23:42:57] <exec> 06Melbourne VIC - currently 14°C, partly cloudy, wind NE at 8 km/h, humidity 67% - Saturday mostly sunny (10°C:23°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (14°C:31°C), Monday scattered showers (11°C:17°C), Tuesday mostly sunny (15°C:26°C)
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[23:52:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, you added bloody color options to weather? why on earth would you do this?
[23:53:36] <crutchy> with all the Troll titles the green was a bit overwhelming. also the way i set up weather-prefs it only took an extra 3 loc :p
[23:54:03] <crutchy> s/3/4/
[23:54:03] <sedctl> <crutchy> with all the Troll titles the green was a bit overwhelming. also the way i set up weather-prefs it only took an extra 4 loc :p
[23:54:33] <crutchy> 2 of them were just a curly brace each :p
[23:55:01] <chromas> oh yeah, I should change the titles color to black for poutine
[23:55:21] <Bytram> !uid
[23:55:21] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5923, owned by ewk
[23:55:42] <Bytram> foo bar buzz
[23:56:09] <Bytram> s/(buzz|bar|foor){3}/stuff/
[23:56:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> bar, buzz... that's an astounding suggestion
[23:56:23] <Bytram> lol
[23:56:45] <Bytram> was trying to find a way to come up with a spam filter for our fun and profit friend
[23:56:51] <crutchy> nah FoobarBazbot already did that
[23:56:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, yeah, takyon did kinda go on a bit of a spree there.
[23:57:21] <Bytram> that would match IFF it had all three of: 'suck dick' and 'fun' and 'profit' in any order
[23:57:45] <crutchy> i didn't mind the links. i kinda prefer to get my news here than on the web
[23:57:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> that one's a tiny bit of a pain to write
[23:58:18] <Bytram> wouldn't this work:
[23:58:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd just write it as /suck dick for/ and call it good
[23:58:43] <crutchy> what, no frosty piss?
[23:58:52] <crutchy> what has the world come to?
[23:59:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, we don't mind a little territory marking even if it is cold
[23:59:23] <Bytram> a pattern like: /((suck dick)|fun|profit){3}/
[23:59:23] <crutchy> .soylentfart
[23:59:41] <crutchy> ~soylentfart
[23:59:41] <Bytram> not sure how things need to be escaped for perl
[23:59:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, i think it'd work but it wouldn't be fast