#Soylent | Logs for 2015-10-07
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[00:21:53] * SpallsHurgenson plays with his new phone
[00:28:15] <chromas> a win 10 phone?
[00:28:33] <SpallsHurgenson> it annoys me that every android phone's interface is just slightly different... there's something to be said about apple's walled-garden consistency
[00:31:15] <nick> something to be said about users having a choice or some options in the ui
[00:32:30] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, if I had settings options so I could change the UI to match my old phone I'd not complain
[00:50:12] <cmn32480> tea++
[00:50:12] <Bender> karma - tea: 504
[00:50:30] <SpallsHurgenson> tee++ #lets play golf
[00:50:31] <Bender> karma - tee: 1
[00:53:21] <SirFinkus> what kind of phone?
[00:53:41] * SirFinkus tries to make awkward conversation
[00:54:01] * SirFinkus expresses non-specific sexual interest
[00:59:37] <SpallsHurgenson> a POS LG
[01:02:05] * SpallsHurgenson grumps about how modern phones are so slim and lightweight they feel like a toy made for little kids
[01:02:20] <SpallsHurgenson> I want something that if I hit you with it, you go down for hours :)
[01:03:15] <SpallsHurgenson> sadly, no provider supports the old Motorola Dynatacs anymore :) :)
[01:05:19] <SirFinkus> I liked those walkie talkie ones
[01:05:28] <SirFinkus> I think nextel had them?
[01:10:29] <SirFinkus> hell is probably just a like of fiberglass insulation
[01:11:46] <SpallsHurgenson> ooh, the pink stuff?
[01:12:37] <SirFinkus> yeah
[01:12:55] <SirFinkus> I got something out of the attic and now I have splinters in my FUCKING WRIST
[01:13:34] <SpallsHurgenson> wait... wasn't Hell an attic in the second Bill'n'Ted movie?
[01:13:53] <SirFinkus> dunno, never saw it
[01:14:00] <SpallsHurgenson> <gasp>
[01:14:19] <SirFinkus> better close that mouth
[01:14:22] <SpallsHurgenson> #soylent movie night! We're all watching Bill and Keanu Try To Be Funny 2!
[01:14:46] <SirFinkus> not worth the ratio hit
[01:15:07] <SpallsHurgenson> that was probably a very funny commet, if I understood it
[01:15:20] <SirFinkus> it was hilarious
[01:16:44] * SpallsHurgenson makes it a point to laugh uproariously then
[01:17:29] * SpallsHurgenson has now cleverly disguised the fact he didn't get the joke
[01:23:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:23:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1713
[01:24:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CBC + Facebook = Apology - http://sylnt.us - people-really-can't-tell
[01:25:19] <SpallsHurgenson> gee, I always considered that - it being such a shithole already- facebook means never having to say your sorry
[01:26:12] <chromas> facebook is a lot like tumblr sans pr0nz
[01:26:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> facebook means putting up with an endless stream of assinine(extra s intended) memes for the sake of being able to keep in touch with family without actually having to talk to them.
[01:27:34] <SirFinkus> try just not keeping in touch with them, it's even nicer
[01:27:46] <SirFinkus> go to thanksgiving and funerals
[01:28:02] <SpallsHurgenson> fortunately, I'm old and grumpy and the people I want to stay in contact with are likewise, so facebook is in no way a necessity :)
[01:28:12] <chromas> use pidgin to connect to fb for instant messaging and skip the rest
[01:28:22] <SirFinkus> that requires a facebook account
[01:28:28] <chromas> old+grumpy++
[01:28:45] <SirFinkus> I've been grumpy since I was like 17
[01:29:11] <SpallsHurgenson> get off my lawn, chromas!!!!
[01:29:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, that's half of why i fish. plenty of grumpy old farts to swap lies with.
[01:30:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, can't use pidgin for fb anymore.
[01:30:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> they choked it off
[01:30:32] <chromas> there's a new plugin
[01:30:36] <chromas> uses the graph api
[01:30:41] * SirFinkus wishes pidgin was a different kind of bird so he could have made a joke
[01:31:05] <chromas> purple-facebook
[01:31:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> new in the past two or three months?
[01:31:19] <chromas> new enough it works
[01:31:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot
[01:31:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can get rid of that lameass messenger then
[01:31:50] <SirFinkus> I just noticed that my electrical tape has a great chinglish moto
[01:32:14] <SirFinkus> "YONGLE BRAND: China resounding brand"
[01:32:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> me upon hearing that news:
[01:32:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube hamster dance 2.0
[01:32:19] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[01:32:20] <systemd> ^ 03The Boomtang Boys - Hamster Dance 2.0 - YouTube
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[01:35:38] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[01:35:48] <SpallsHurgenson> I want the last 4 minutes and 49 seconds of my life back please
[01:36:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> BadCoderFinger, sup, yo
[01:36:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, there's a #redtube search command too
[01:36:34] <SirFinkus> you watched the entire thing SpallsHurgenson?
[01:36:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> blame chromas
[01:37:24] <chromas> hey now. I can't control my urges
[01:37:32] <BadCoderFinger> Hey TMB
[01:38:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> kitteh find moth. insanity is ensuing.
[01:38:42] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, that happens.
[01:40:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> readin a recap of the perl6 release announcement
[01:40:46] <cmn32480> submit a story... give it 10 years and SoylentNews might be on it
[01:41:12] <cmn32480> #redtube hamster dance
[01:41:48] <cmn32480> #redtube hamster
[01:41:49] <MrPlow> http://www.redtube.com
[01:41:50] <systemd> ^ 031fuckdatecom Pawg hamster time big butt hous | Redtube Free Amateur Porn Videos, Movies Clips
[01:42:07] <cmn32480> you are very welcom SpallsHurgenson
[01:44:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, i keel j00!
[01:44:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> porting rehash to perl6 would take every bit of ten years
[01:45:53] <cmn32480> what is we stepped to version 3 first?
[01:46:15] <cmn32480> you know you wanna be bleeding edge TheMightyBuzzard!
[01:46:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh we're running damned near cutting edge v5.
[01:46:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh someone'll be bleeding aright
[01:46:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander if he suggests it fer one =P
[01:47:17] <cmn32480> ok
[01:47:27] <cmn32480> perhpas a php conversion would be better
[01:47:31] * cmn32480 ducks
[01:47:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, i lurve that idea. we can make crutchy do it.
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[01:48:25] <cmn32480> SOLD!
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[01:48:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> heya, subs
[01:48:48] <cmn32480> he is a socialist, so why not? it'd be for the good of the people!
[01:51:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> damnit, ima hafta buy a perl6 book
[01:51:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> after i buy a fishin boat. gotta have your priorities.
[01:54:45] <cmn32480> tart witha new fishin' stick
[01:56:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, done got more than i can reasonably pay attention to at once.
[02:03:21] <SpallsHurgenson> since when does crutchy get the shitjobs? that's what you hired bytram for! :)
[02:06:02] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, I took apart my electric trimmer to clean it and now I lost one of the tiny screws...
[02:07:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy gets the php jobs cause he wrote exec in php
[02:08:33] <SpallsHurgenson> that's not the point... if there's a hopeless, pointless, awful job to be done, then bytram's your man! :)
[02:08:34] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: you didn't forget; it's an extra
[02:08:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually, that's me. bytram comes along after and breaks it.
[02:10:26] <SpallsHurgenson> no, you just get the awful but necessary jobs :)
[02:10:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, right
[02:13:17] <cmn32480> even if bytram|away writes it.. he'd probably break it on purpose
[02:13:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh no, i get to do that. vengeance is mine.
[02:15:18] * SpallsHurgenson continues the search for a tiny screw
[02:17:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> magnet
[02:18:33] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, one of those silly torx headed things?
[02:20:46] <SpallsHurgenson> nah, just a regular tiny screw from my electric razor. it went walkabout... its somewhere in this room... or building... or continent.
[02:20:55] * SpallsHurgenson is 90% sure it is still on the planet
[02:24:24] <SirFinkus> probably air soluble
[02:24:47] <SirFinkus> I lose the bushing of one of the tuners in my guitar, I've been looking for a week
[02:28:11] <Deucalion> It's in the cat... so now not only do you have to grapple around on the floor under the desk with a torch and magnet - you have to dissolve and examine every emission from kitty. Of course it will get lodged somewhere within kitty and cost an exorbitant amount for a vet to retrieve.... maybe more cost effective to order up a new screw in solid unobtanium and flush the cat :) Just an idea :)
[02:29:46] <chromas> are you saying he's screwed?
[02:29:53] * chromas dawns sunglasses
[02:30:33] <Deucalion> dons?
[02:31:55] <SirFinkus> dawn we now are gay apparel
[02:32:01] <Deucalion> or darkens? as Zaphod would?
[02:34:57] <Bytram> did someone call?
[02:35:00] <Bytram> =)
[02:36:55] <SpallsHurgenson> oh hey bytram!
[02:37:12] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, we need somebody to update soylent to perl 6
[02:37:52] <cmn32480> and you are elected!
[02:37:55] <SpallsHurgenson> you should be able to get that done by tomorrow, right?
[02:38:03] <Bytram> yeah, I saw you were looking for someone to be in charge of the conversion -- I'll need some minions and you look like the first volunteer!
[02:38:07] <cmn32480> onyl if you help him SpallsHurgenson
[02:38:13] <Bytram> depends on how fast you can type.
[02:38:23] <SpallsHurgenson> ooooh!
[02:38:52] <Bytram> ;)
[02:38:54] <SpallsHurgenson> finally my skills at writing gibberish^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h perl will be put to good use!
[02:39:11] <Bytram> truth!
[02:39:33] <Bytram> just feed line noise into a serial port, amiright?
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[02:39:57] <SpallsHurgenson> shhh, you're giving away all my best hacker tricks!
[02:41:01] SpallsHurgenson is now known as MrPotatoHead
[02:41:06] <Bytram> 'twas a long time ago, but I do have some experience coding in perl and some of the regex's I saw (and, I must confess wrote myself) were a very close approximation to line noise.
[02:42:30] <Bytram> there is something to be sed to assigning parts of a large regex to variables whose names describe the purpose, and then catenating them together to get the final, functional regexp.
[02:43:28] <MrPotatoHead> (yay, I just got the screw I so desperately needed!)
[02:44:40] <BadCoderFinger> "something to be sed"..."regex"... I see what you did there.
[02:45:40] <Bytram> I was wondering if anyone would pick up on it -- well done!
[02:47:33] <BadCoderFinger> Some days I'm not so dumb.
[02:49:01] <Bytram> from my perspective, that seems like most days.
[02:55:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EU Top Court Rules Safe Harbour Treaty Invalid - http://sylnt.us - back-to-the-drawing-board
[02:58:31] <BadCoderFinger> I would hardly bet American dinero on my intelligence on any given day, heh.
[02:58:39] <BadCoderFinger> Especially when there's beer.
[02:59:19] <Bytram> hmmm, that could have been mistaken as to my intention -- most days i think you are more than just quite capable.
[02:59:38] <Bytram> well, add beer, and pretty much all qualifications start going out the window.
[03:00:35] <BadCoderFinger> It does kill off the straggler brain cells. I call it neural Darwinism.
[03:01:16] <Bytram> the end result is getting to a point where you don't know that you don't know.
[03:03:41] <MrPotatoHead> but really, what have our brain cells ever done for us?
[03:07:09] <BadCoderFinger> I'm hoping it kills off all the stupid neurons. I've been forgetting a lot about working on windows, but I don't know if that's evidence against or for weeding out the stupid ones...
[03:09:56] <BadCoderFinger> MrPotatoHead: My neurons have kept me out of windows...
[03:12:37] <chromas> MrPotatoHead: back doors are not secrets
[03:12:57] MrPotatoHead is now known as SpallsHurgenson
[03:13:02] <SpallsHurgenson> FINALLY somebody got the reference
[03:17:55] <BadCoderFinger> Well, are you going to enlighten us neuron-deprived irc-nauts?
[03:19:37] <SpallsHurgenson> no, the information might destroy your brain
[03:19:45] <cmn32480> MrPotatoehead has a back door
[03:19:54] * chromas sets the channel password to joshua
[03:20:02] <cmn32480> and his name was changed directly after he mentioned somethign about hacker tricks
[03:20:14] <cmn32480> It was so vague I'm rather shocked ANYBODY got it
[03:20:48] <cmn32480> care for a game of Thermo-Nuclear War Chromas?
[03:21:56] * Bytram|away needs to get some shuteye -- g'night everybody!
[03:22:06] <BadCoderFinger> Night Bytram!
[03:22:22] <Bytram|away> BadCoderFinger: nice chatting with ya!
[03:24:04] <chromas> I think we have to play a few games of tic tac toe first
[03:24:25] <chromas> the training levels
[03:29:29] <cmn32480> how about a nice game of chess?
[03:33:30] * chromas lines the grid with recognizers
[03:35:51] <SirFinkus> fuck, I don't know references for that one
[03:36:05] <BadCoderFinger> Tron! The original!
[03:36:28] <BadCoderFinger> The second one was really "The Dude in Cyberspace" so I don't count it.
[03:36:38] <SirFinkus> thought it was that other movie
[03:36:42] <SirFinkus> forgot the name
[03:36:47] <SirFinkus> oh, war games?
[03:36:53] <SirFinkus> only winning move is not to play
[03:37:03] <chromas> never heard of it
[03:37:15] <chromas> sounds made up
[03:37:19] <SirFinkus> might have gotten the name wrong
[03:37:24] <SirFinkus> oh, you're an ass
[03:37:29] <BadCoderFinger> Heh. Like Highlander sequels, they don't exist.
[03:37:40] <chromas> well, there can only be one
[03:38:08] <SirFinkus> WarGames is a 1983 American Cold War science-fiction film written by Lawrence Lasker and Walter F. Parkes and directed by John Badham. The film stars Matthew Broderick, Dabney Coleman, John Wood, and Ally Sheedy.
[03:38:13] <SirFinkus> that's the one
[03:38:52] <chromas> Goddammit, I'd piss on a spargplug if I thought it would do any good
[03:38:59] <BadCoderFinger> Heh
[03:39:00] <chromas> s/g/k/
[03:39:00] <sedctl> <chromas> Goddammit, I'd piss on a sparkplug if I thought it would do any good
[03:39:21] <chromas> adlibbed
[03:39:32] <BadCoderFinger> Really? I didn't know that.
[03:39:39] <BadCoderFinger> Cool.
[03:39:52] <SirFinkus> there's one I'm really proud of because I read the original book something famous was based off of and I can bring it up every time
[03:40:17] <BadCoderFinger> A tattoo might solve that problem...
[03:42:04] <SirFinkus> oh shit, it was fail-safe, but that was similar to red alert, but it was after it
[03:42:49] <SirFinkus> but I an reference it whenever someone mentions Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, so I'm probably still good on the nerd thing
[03:43:47] <SirFinkus> cw3 can
[03:45:36] <SirFinkus> oh fuck, now I messed up the vim shit
[03:45:50] * SirFinkus pulls his own nerd card
[03:46:02] <chromas> it's what you get for not using systemd-editd
[03:50:13] <cmn32480> and I'm spent.
[03:50:17] <cmn32480> night fellas
[03:53:20] <BadCoderFinger> Yar, time to get some sleep. Night guys!
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[04:18:06] <diginet> does anyone else have an interest in soylent from an ascetic viewpoint?
[04:26:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Moon Express and Rocket Lab Team Up for 2017 Lunar Mission - http://sylnt.us - to-infinity-and-beyond
[04:36:52] <SirFinkus> the site or the food diginet?
[04:37:20] <SirFinkus> idk if I'd give up delicious food for the food product
[04:40:20] <SirFinkus> I haven't tried soylent though, so for all I know it's delicious
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[05:09:56] <chromas> http://motherboard.vice.com
[05:09:57] <systemd> ^ 03The Canadian Military Wants to Learn How to Hack Cars | Motherboard
[05:10:16] <chromas> Surely they would only do it after asking permission; it's the polite thing to do.
[05:57:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kajita, McDonald Win Physics Prize; Campbell, Εmura and Youyou Tu Win Medicine Prize - http://sylnt.us - justified-recognition
[07:28:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Crucial Hurdle Overcome in Quantum Computing - http://sylnt.us - coming-to-a-desktop-near-you
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[07:53:15] <crutchy> http://www.wired.com
[07:53:16] <systemd> ^ 03How To Get A Sweet New 'GIF' Facebook Profile Pic | WIRED
[07:55:49] <chromas> need an animated poo glyph
[07:56:21] <chromas> plus the π
[07:57:19] <chromas> =nick π
[07:57:21] <chromas> aw
[07:59:19] <crutchy> yeah animated fonts would be totally kitch
[07:59:45] <crutchy> why isn't apple patenting those already?
[08:00:02] <crutchy> hmm. maybe they have and i just didn't give enough shits to look
[08:00:24] * chromas recalls animated icons on windows 95
[08:00:41] <crutchy> wow lol i don't remember that
[08:00:51] <crutchy> windows 95 is so advanced
[08:01:01] <chromas> I think it was some extra enhancement thing
[08:01:10] <crutchy> when windows 7 stops being supported i should upgrade to windows 95
[08:01:24] <crutchy> imagine how much quicker it will be
[08:01:33] <chromas> you should. windows 95 invented the taskbar
[08:01:55] <crutchy> and it even has a start menu omg! windows 8 doesn't even have that yet
[08:03:10] <crutchy> eventually they might invent workspaces where you can group your apps using a little workspace switcher thing in the taskbar
[08:59:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cop Fired After Recording Himself Repeatedly Tasering Unarmed Suspect - http://sylnt.us - not-the-brightest-of-the-bunch
[09:06:36] <crutchy> from the it's-about-fucking-time dept.
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[10:22:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:22:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1714
[10:31:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Single Neuron May Carry Over 1,000 Mutations - http://sylnt.us - that-explains-my-brain
[10:40:03] <cmn32480> amen buzzard.... amen
[10:40:06] <cmn32480> coffee++
[10:40:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1715
[10:40:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> starting the day off with a triple shot cappuccino. it's that kind of morning.
[10:42:45] <cmn32480> oy!
[10:43:48] <cmn32480> I'm getting running myslef here. need ot be at the customer site about 8
[10:45:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> installing perl6 on me laptop until the caffeine and amphetamine kick in then gonna shine up the house for the folks triumphant return.
[10:45:46] <cmn32480> ahhhh
[10:46:06] <cmn32480> just don't put too good a shine on it or they will want youo to stay as the cleaning lady
[10:46:16] <cmn32480> and I cna't see you in a Frnch Maids outfit
[10:46:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah. no matter how much i shine it, the female component of the folks set has enough ocd to find something wrong to complain about.
[10:47:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> she's a neatnick, i'm just tidy.
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[10:47:53] <cmn32480> understood
[10:47:55] <cmn32480> ok
[10:47:56] <cmn32480> well
[10:48:06] <cmn32480> have a good mornign and don't inhale too many chemicals
[10:48:19] <cmn32480> I gotta get scrubbed up myself
[10:48:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> back at ya
[10:48:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> great, now i got soapy n naked cmn32480 on the brain
[10:48:50] <cmn32480> WOOHOO!!!! BRAIN TATOO!
[10:49:09] <chromas> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[10:49:09] <Bender> Added quote 566
[10:49:19] <cmn32480> grand
[10:49:23] <cmn32480> just grand
[10:49:34] <cmn32480> chromas with the sneaky grab!
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[10:54:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh yerg. rakudo perl6 doesn't support nonblocking io
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[10:55:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> poor SoyGuest76054
[10:59:02] <cmn32480> #redtube soapy
[10:59:02] <MrPlow> http://www.redtube.com
[10:59:04] <systemd> ^ 03Jodie Ellen - Soapy Suds - Trailer | Redtube Free Big Tits Porn Videos, Blonde Movies Clips
[10:59:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads there are a lot of data types in perl6
[10:59:19] <cmn32480> there you go buzzard. that ought to help with the brain tattoo
[11:00:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube boobies and kittens
[11:00:02] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[11:00:03] <systemd> ^ 03BOOBIES KITTENS - YouTube
[11:00:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> brain bleach there
[11:01:48] <cmn32480> hilarious
[11:02:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> i need to macro that one up
[11:10:10] <cmn32480> time to head out. see y'all tongiht when I get back to the hotel
[11:10:22] cmn32480 is now known as cmn32480|travelin
[11:12:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> #reload
[11:12:41] <MrPlow> Reloaded
[11:12:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> #bnk
[11:12:44] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[11:12:44] <systemd> ^* 03BOOBIES KITTENS - YouTube
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[11:45:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++ # again cause much needed today
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[12:10:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Bytram
[12:11:20] <Bytram> morning!
[12:11:22] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:11:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1717
[12:11:26] <Bytram> !uid
[12:11:26] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5899, owned by JulianoBarbosa
[12:11:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> gettin close
[12:11:44] * Bytram is reminded of Welcome Back Kotter
[12:11:58] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:12:09] <Bytram> is there a way to get the latest cid?
[12:12:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> bound to be
[12:12:20] * Bytram notes we are approaching 250K
[12:12:32] <Bytram> i can do it in sql, is it in your API?
[12:13:07] <Bytram> select max(cid) from comments;
[12:13:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, nope
[12:13:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:13:55] <Bytram> pretty please?
[12:14:09] <Bytram> hold on a sec....
[12:14:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> put it on the suggestions page of the wiki and it'll get gotten to eventually.
[12:15:09] <Bytram> which reminds me, I've still got a pending code change to get into the system somehow. :/
[12:16:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> 246409
[12:16:45] <Bytram> nice -- thanks!
[12:17:16] <Bytram> I can find it through the admin panel, but I also get the latest upteen comments with it.
[12:17:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:17:49] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[12:17:52] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[12:18:17] <Bytram> that would keep the API 'language/grammar' consistent
[12:18:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~api m=comment op=max_uid
[12:18:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, no exec
[12:19:06] <Bytram> oh well!
[12:19:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess ima hafta write api functionality into mrplow
[12:19:49] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:20:25] <Bytram> urk. my prior suggestion was wrong... cut/n/paste boo boo
[12:20:29] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[12:21:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[12:21:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> knew what ya meant
[12:21:18] <Bytram> there is a mix of both item and operation in the op.
[12:21:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be a max_sid under stories as well
[12:21:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly one for journal entries
[12:21:44] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[12:22:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> only reason to do it that way is if you were going to do other things with cid
[12:22:51] <Bytram> disagree.
[12:23:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a pretty useless datapoint aside from getting the max one though
[12:23:18] <Bytram> consistency in tool access -- 'the law of least astonishment'
[12:23:45] <Bytram> in this particular case, yes, can prolly hard-code the results.
[12:23:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, and adding &item=foo&op=bar would completely break consistency
[12:24:31] <Bytram> but, it affords the writing of a general-purpose meta-tool that has a consistent grammar for finding things in the db.
[12:24:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> goes m=category we wanna work on op=what we wanna do
[12:24:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[12:24:42] <Bytram> with what currently exists, yes.
[12:25:09] <Bytram> but it fails to specify exactly *what* you want to work on.
[12:25:30] <Bytram> so that got melded in with the what you want to do as a verb phrase: maxuid
[12:25:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's taken care of with further arguments if necessary. most of the time it's not
[12:25:40] <Bytram> *max_uid
[12:25:58] <Bytram> OOP state the thing and then what you want to do with it.
[12:26:13] <Bytram> there seems to be a bit of that in perl
[12:26:14] <Bytram> =)
[12:26:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i don't want it to be a db tool though
[12:26:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> want it to be a site tool. different way of looking at it.
[12:26:51] <Bytram> site tool?
[12:27:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> something for site/app building rather than raw or even slightly abstracted db access
[12:27:50] * Bytram ponders
[12:28:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> some convenience ops thrown in because they're neat, like max_uid
[12:28:22] <Bytram> of course, one could implement a site tool with a db tool =)
[12:28:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but it'd be more work for both them and me
[12:28:53] <Bytram> I sense that, over time, there will be more and more things requested/added that it will eventually turn into a bastard db tool.
[12:29:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be
[12:29:23] <Bytram> unless you practice profound indifference (and no one else picks up the torch), of course.
[12:29:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> i take care of all of that i can by dumping as much info as we have on them with regular queries though
[12:29:29] <Bytram> ;)
[12:29:35] <Bytram> nodnod
[12:29:50] <Bytram> coffee refill time; biab
[12:29:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're not short of bandwidth and nobody says they gotta use it all,
[12:30:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, good idea
[12:30:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine as well
[12:30:19] <Bytram> nodnod; biack in a few minutes
[12:42:35] <Bytram> back front and center
[12:42:57] * Bytram wonders how large a download freebsd would be?
[12:50:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idear. sticking to linux so's i can be really good at that instead of competent in several oses.
[12:50:56] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:51:40] <Bytram> after going through the work of setting up virtual box and hten downloading/installing Ubuntu / Mate, I remembered Canonical's attempts to capture all search queries, etc.
[12:51:44] <Bytram> and am having second thoughts.
[12:52:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that among other things like systemd is why i said slackware
[12:53:23] <Bytram> yeah, that's a bit more than I really want to dive into atm... though I do have a friend hereabouts who runs slack and I could use as a resource
[12:53:42] <Bytram> ima thinking freebsd as it seems to be really popular as an alternative
[12:53:58] <Bytram> thought also of openbsd but really don't know if I want to go that far.
[12:55:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> slack has package management nowadays. it's not really any much harder than any other distro and decidedly easier than gentoo and co
[12:55:56] <Bytram> k
[12:56:20] <Bytram> has systemd invaded slack?
[12:56:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope
[12:56:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> gentoo and slack are the only majors without it still
[12:57:29] <chromas> does canonical's spyware go beyond unity?
[12:57:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> and gentoo i would advise against. building everything from source is a huge time sink for minimal gain.
[12:58:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg. it doesn't really invade mint.
[12:58:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno bout matebuntu
[12:58:47] * chromas sets compiler option -o9000 and emerges
[12:58:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> lxubuntu is free of stupidity as well
[12:59:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> or is it lubuntu, i forget
[12:59:23] <Bytram> the latter sounds more familiar to me
[12:59:27] <chromas> I'm sure there's both
[12:59:30] <Bytram> lol
[12:59:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly
[12:59:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's always debian as well
[12:59:50] <chromas> genbuntoo, susebuntu
[12:59:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> still has systemd but meh
[13:00:08] <chromas> systemd soothes my soul
[13:00:17] * TheMightyBuzzard misses netcraft
[13:00:29] <chromas> and gives me mount issues at boot
[13:00:38] <Bytram> given all the interest I've seen in freebsd, is that safe from systemd and canonical-like spyware?
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[13:01:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i lurve how booting can hang cause of one bad mount. specially nfs mounts.
[13:01:10] <chromas> systemd relies on linux-specific apis
[13:01:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, yeah.
[13:01:33] <chromas> any porting to the bsds would be third-party 'cause poettering don't want to part in it
[13:01:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> it does not however have as robust a software selection or community
[13:02:15] <Bytram> what is ubuntu based on? plain vanilla linux?
[13:02:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> debian
[13:02:35] <Bytram> ahhh, nod nod
[13:02:48] <Bytram> both had a 'd' in the name and I had a hash-collision error! lolo
[13:03:02] <Bytram> BS Debian, right? :/
[13:03:12] * TheMightyBuzzard kicks Bytram
[13:03:31] <Bytram> what can I say -- still seem to be undercaffeinated
[13:04:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima finish watching the flash then do up some dishes
[13:04:16] <Bytram> goin fishin today?
[13:04:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, cleanin up around the house a bit
[13:04:40] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:04:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> then going to watch the martian
[13:04:51] <Bytram> I've been procrastinating on that front for way too long
[13:05:05] <Bytram> oh yeah, i was thinking of seeing it today, too.
[13:05:18] * Bytram goes to check the local cineplex's schedule
[13:05:22] * chromas notices youtube videos have a speed option now. at least for the html5 player
[13:05:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty good book. holding off judgment on the movie cause matt damon is a tool
[13:06:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> there was interview with Andy Weir on starship sofa a few weeks ago
[13:06:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> was pretty good
[13:06:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> neat
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[13:08:03] <janrinok> hi guys
[13:08:05] <CoolHand> I'm gonna take the kid to the martian.. the wife doesn't want to see it, b/c she thinks Matt Damon is a tool...
[13:08:08] <CoolHand> hehe
[13:08:10] <CoolHand> janrinok: !!
[13:08:16] <janrinok> CoolHand: !!
[13:08:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> CoolHand, she is wise and has excellent taste
[13:08:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> afternoon, janrinok
[13:08:53] <CoolHand> TheMightyBuzzard: she's still pissed at him for the way he dumped Minnie Driver years ago... heh
[13:09:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> not as cool but at least the resulting decision is still sound
[13:09:34] <janrinok> it is good being comparatively old, and unaware of the romances of those in the arts
[13:09:48] <Bytram> nice... looks like I can hit the midafternoon showing and still get together with some friends this evening.
[13:09:55] <janrinok> Bytram: !!
[13:10:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i'm thinkin matinee myself.
[13:10:16] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: good afternoon to you too, Buzz, how's things
[13:10:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff
[13:11:56] <Bytram> it's been well nigh a decade since i saw a movie in the evening -- much prefer less chit-chat and distractions -- and is easier to get good seats at a matinee
[13:12:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus it's cheaper
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[13:40:44] <Yog-Yogguth> lol dear $deity (soon to come with a plush soft exterior) https://www.rt.com
[13:40:46] <systemd> ^ 03Phone or friend? The new robot-shaped smartphone that wants to know you and learn (VIDEO) β RT News
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[14:53:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, house is shiny. or better than they left it anyways.
[14:54:38] <Yog-Yogguth> TheMightyBlizzard :)
[14:56:08] * TheMightyBuzzard starts cranking out an epic RTS
[14:56:34] <Yog-Yogguth> Cleancraft!
[15:04:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Daimler Driverless Lorry Tested in Motorway Traffic - http://sylnt.us - the-future-is-here
[15:07:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> jebus, reading up on perl6 and it's gonna look even more like line noise
[15:10:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> Perl 6, the programming language that's been in development for 14 years now.
[15:10:42] <Yog-Yogguth> hmm US treasury doesn't know about Hi-Lux reputation (of Top Gear fame), I would think they're going to face massive ridicule for that https://www.rt.com
[15:10:43] <systemd> ^ 03ISIS driving Toyotas a little too often, US Treasury wonders why β RT USA
[15:10:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> at least
[15:11:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause yotas get a gerzillion miles before they die.
[15:11:46] <Yog-Yogguth> yup
[15:11:46] <Bytram|away> hope to stop by again some time tonight...
[15:11:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine has 260k+
[15:11:50] <Bytram|away> have a great day everyone!
[15:11:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> laters Bytram|away
[15:11:59] <Yog-Yogguth> cya Bytram :)
[15:12:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> my toyota got killed by an idiot in a Pontiac Aztek before it even 200,000 miles. :(
[15:12:24] <Yog-Yogguth> ouch
[15:12:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, justifiable homocide there
[15:12:45] <Bytram|away> TheMightyBuzzard: btw, just because something is avail in Perl 6 does not mean we'd have to use it! I wonder how compatible it is to Perl 5? Can one just drop in 6 and have the old stuff still Just Work?
[15:12:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram|away, no
[15:13:13] <Bytram|away> grrrr!
[15:13:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> way too many changes
[15:13:56] <Bytram|away> is a 'translator' avail? (well, I suppose if one were, then THAT would have become part of the language, too! nvm. :/
[15:14:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, i wouldn't trust one of those with rehash
[15:14:45] <Bytram|away> ok, gtg... l8rs!
[15:16:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> rehash shall never be perl6. MrPlow may be though.
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[21:36:47] <crutchy> cruise missiles can be a real bitch
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