#Soylent | Logs for 2015-09-28
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[00:21:44] <Mooooooooon> the zombies keep eating me; is that normal?
[00:29:38] <JamesNZ> Everything's normal, if you're brave enough.
[00:46:26] cmn32480|out is now known as cmn32480
[00:57:41] <Bytram> SirFinkus: Hi! Comment count issue existed on the green site long ago, too. I reported it to them and was told it was a known, long-standing bug. My recollection is that if I look at a comment's score when I am logged in as the user who submitted it, I see a different score than when I am either not logged in, or when I am logged in as a different user. Yes, it seems to be related to the Karma bonus modifier.
[01:04:34] <Mooooooooon> I seem to have misplaced the moon
[01:07:04] <cmn32480> check in the couch cushions... that is where I usually find stuff
[01:31:38] <Mooooooooon> the moon! the moon! what is happening to the moon! oh, gods protect us; we are doomed! the moon is disappearing from the sky!
[01:33:22] <takyon> http://www.wantchinatimes.com
[01:33:28] <Schwifty> ^ 03China may launch Type 001A carrier on Mao's birthday: report｜WCT
[01:37:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, who broke the moon?
[01:38:00] <Deucalion> Bytram of course!
[01:38:24] <Bytram> =)
[01:46:44] Gravis_ is now known as Gravis
[01:49:15] <Deucalion> Or more correctly stated.... someone inadvertently fucked up while coding the moon and Bytram spotted it. Sadly not until it had been launched into orbit for a few gazillion years. I suggest we make Bytram a time lord so he can have the power of time travel. I do have reservations about that suggestion though... time travel poses all kinds of moral dilemmas - we'd need a policy... but then what if he went back in time and edited said policy to
[01:49:16] <Deucalion> sanction his own actions ahead of time. I think these kind currently insoluble dilemmas are why we stupid humans, with our inability to grasp such things have not been granted the gift of time travel by the FSM. Or something.
[01:51:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Could You Fight Off Prehistoric 20-foot Lizards? Early Aborigines Likely Did - http://sylnt.us - run-faster-than-the-fat-guy
[02:03:00] <takyon> whoa
[02:08:21] <Deucalion> 20-Foot Lizards? OK.... who let David Ike into the room?
[02:20:16] <Mooooooooon> nice eclipse... very red
[02:20:31] <Mooooooooon> at least it was until the bloody clouds and hid everything
[02:20:55] <Mooooooooon> I didn't actually get to see it come back... I hope it does
[02:22:02] <Mooooooooon> that's always a risk with an eclipse... if they don't get the math JUST right... BOOM! No more moon.
[02:22:45] <SirFinkus> ahh, glad it is known Bytram
[02:22:47] <Deucalion> Where will we get our cheese from if there is no more moon?
[02:22:53] <SirFinkus> I keep thinking I was downmodded or something
[02:23:24] <Mooooooooon> I dunno, but you'd better hope NASA didn't forget to convert from metric this time
[02:23:25] <SirFinkus> as far as the moon goes, can't see shit here
[02:24:00] <Mooooooooon> I had a great view until just after totallity, when the clouds rolled in
[02:24:29] <Mooooooooon> well, as great as I probably could get in a major metropolis... lights of glaring lights
[02:24:59] <Mooooooooon> actually, I normally find eclipses rather dull - it's just a shadow on a rock - but these days they are pretty much the only astronomical event I can see :)
[02:27:14] <SirFinkus> yard is too obscured
[02:27:20] <SirFinkus> trees etc
[02:27:29] <Mooooooooon> that's what flamethrowers are for
[02:27:36] Mooooooooon is now known as SpallsHurgenson
[02:27:37] <SirFinkus> lunar eclipses are pretty meh
[02:27:47] <SirFinkus> gonna drive down to oregon for the solar one though
[02:27:50] <SpallsHurgenson> this one was a nice bloodmoon though
[02:28:35] <SpallsHurgenson> probably very good for necromantic spellcasters :)
[02:31:09] * SirFinkus posts it yet again https://www.youtube.com
[02:31:09] <Schwifty> ^* 03Creedence Clearwater Revival: Bad Moon Rising - YouTube
[02:31:34] cmn32480 is now known as cmn32480|travelin
[02:33:32] * SpallsHurgenson feels a sudden urge to watch An American Werewolf In London
[02:34:42] <SpallsHurgenson> the only bad thing about my lunar excursion is that I sat on my phone and shattered its screen :(
[02:35:15] <SirFinkus> oh shit
[02:35:23] <SirFinkus> how fat are you SpallsHurgenson?
[02:35:32] <SirFinkus> or do you have one of those iphone 6 plusses?
[02:35:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I was perched on the edge of a concrete curb
[02:38:05] <SirFinkus> the hoover dam isn't a "curb"
[02:39:33] <SpallsHurgenson> geek porn http://arstechnica.com
[02:39:34] <Schwifty> ^ 03Where airplanes go to die: Walking around a 747 graveyard | Ars Technica
[02:45:01] <SirFinkus> museum of flight is pretty neat if you're ever in the seattle area
[02:45:19] <SirFinkus> I have family that works at boeing so I've seen some shit
[02:48:07] <SpallsHurgenson> why, are they on the janitorial staff? :-)
[02:49:53] <SpallsHurgenson> they really should learn not to bring their work home with them
[02:51:19] <SirFinkus> engineer and exec high enough to make the paper a few times
[02:51:53] <SpallsHurgenson> an exec? nothing so respectable as the janitorial staff, then
[02:52:02] <SirFinkus> haha
[02:52:54] <SirFinkus> at least he's not a politician
[02:53:54] <SpallsHurgenson> nobody ever admits to having a politician as a relative
[02:55:45] <SpallsHurgenson> better to be thought a copraphage than a politician :)
[02:57:21] <SirFinkus> hey, there's nothing wrong with eating shit
[02:58:04] <SirFinkus> you just insulted copraphages everywhere
[03:23:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Opinions on Apple - http://sylnt.us - indistinguishable-from-magic
[03:27:07] <SirFinkus> oh boy, here we go
[03:28:03] <SpallsHurgenson> usually the point of clickbait articles is to get more advertising hits... but soylent doesn't have advertising...
[03:28:05] <Deucalion> Dung beetles seem to do perfectly fine processing the poop that others inefficiently processed via their own digestive tract.
[03:30:53] <takyon> I don't like bytram's recent blockquoting of some of the submitter's text, but not the last part of it
[03:30:55] <takyon> opinions?
[03:31:17] <SirFinkus> I don't like Bytram's attitude in general
[03:31:25] <SirFinkus> I suspect he's NSA
[03:32:51] <SpallsHurgenson> I knew it!
[03:33:37] <JamesNZ> All by himself?
[03:36:53] <SpallsHurgenson> he's an Evil Mastermind!
[03:37:40] <Deucalion> takyon, that would be more a discussion for #editorial no?
[03:37:56] <takyon> I didn't check the channel
[03:40:26] <Deucalion> Yeh, common courtesy would be to express your thoughts to Bytram and discuss.... then if unresolved throw it out to the wildlife to resolve. Bad form sir, bad form.
[03:41:06] <Deucalion> Anyone for tea?
[03:41:46] <SirFinkus> sure
[03:42:11] * Deucalion hands SirFinkus a flask of tea
[03:42:19] <SirFinkus> a flask?
[03:42:22] <SirFinkus> what kind of tea is this?
[03:43:58] <takyon> http://www.homewetbar.com
[03:43:59] <Schwifty> ^ 03Sasquatch 128oz Extremely Large Flask (Engravable)
[03:44:41] <SpallsHurgenson> that is an extremely large flask
[03:45:12] <SirFinkus> lol reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com
[03:45:13] <Schwifty> ^ 03Best of the Worst: Future War, The Jar, and White Fire - YouTube
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[03:50:12] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, the finest Darjeeling or perhaps Earl Grey..... I think.... /me checks stocks of that mushroom tea that is no longer allowed.. newp you're good.... tis just tea.
[03:50:34] * SirFinkus won't tell if you won't
[03:55:32] * Deucalion last picked a mushroom before it was illegal to do so and has no mushroom tea (sadly).... those were giggly times.... wouldn't risk a class A drug possession charge for wondering around a field carrying a plastic bag full of psilocybin shrooms. Fuck me - whatever you do in life do not dare enjoy it or be silly, that is just not on!! Damn reprobates that dare to laugh, hang them all.
[03:56:31] <SirFinkus> OOOOOH thought you were talking about oysters
[03:56:46] <SirFinkus> or edible puffballs or something
[03:57:54] <Deucalion> Is puffball tea a thing? Soup perhaps...
[03:58:45] <SirFinkus> I hear the mozzie migrants are eating amanitas instead and getting sick
[03:58:56] <SirFinkus> in mainland europ
[03:58:59] <SirFinkus> europe
[04:01:34] <Deucalion> Hmm... thinking about it - it is the right time of year for psilobes.... autumn before the frosts set in if I recall. Alas, I reveal to much! I shall be found on a long countryside walk tomorrow should anyone need me.... sans cellphone you tracking obsessed bastards!
[04:02:36] <Deucalion> mozzie? We've always has mosquitoes... just not very common this far north.
[04:02:40] <SirFinkus> not quite yet here
[04:02:49] <SirFinkus> wouldn't want to pick any by mistake
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[04:15:49] <Deucalion> I did have a field guide to picking edible fungi - sadly lost somehow in one of numerous house moves. Visible identifiers and stuff about laying them on clean paper overnight to see if they shed spores etc. before frying them up for brekkie in an omelette. Sadly missed book, dined in many a time on the back of that on foraged stuff. One does not just tuck into foraged bracket fungi and the like without identification - that's like russian roule
[04:15:49] <Deucalion> tte - I know they look the same, but that shade of gray on the underside spells the difference between a yummy meal and a slow fatal organ failure.
[04:29:07] <SirFinkus> puffballs are pretty easy if you cut them open first
[04:41:48] <SirFinkus> night
[04:43:42] <K_benzoate> I get all my mushrooms in a syringe ready to be injected into growth media.
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[05:11:14] * Deucalion shudders at the mention of a syringe..... I shall scoff my psilocybe fungi on the hoof from now on - good luck catching me in the second it takes to go from growing in the ground to ingested you bastards!
[05:24:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Research Pair Offer a Way to Put a Living Organism Into Superposition State - http://sylnt.us - living-at-10-mK
[05:28:13] <K_benzoate> You can buy the spores in suspension legally. It's a weird time to be alive.
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[21:06:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It's Alive! Study Adds Evidence to Hypothesis That Viruses Are Living Organisms - http://sylnt.us - meet-the-family
[21:23:36] <chromas> Oh, I thought they already were
[21:29:30] <SoyGuest9636> one popular definition is 'possesses DNA' which most viruses do not
[21:29:39] <SoyGuest9636> hence - not alive
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[21:35:15] <Gravis> chromas: i don't think they are alive since they rely entirely on external systems to reproduce.
[21:35:30] <Gravis> chromas: otherwise you can classify a computer virus as being alive
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[21:49:15] <Gravis> chromas: are you saying computer viruses are alive?
[21:49:50] <SirFinkus> life is like porn, I'll know it when I see it
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[22:30:59] <chromas> computer viruses don't have live hosts though either. Plus when was the last time anyone got a computer virus?
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[22:39:57] <Gravis> chromas: why does the host need to be alive?
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[22:42:35] <Gravis> chromas: the difference between computer viruses and biological viruses is actually quite slim. they are both made of the most basic units of construction.
[22:43:17] <JamesNZ> Maliciousness? :P
[22:43:44] <Gravis> nope, and instruction set
[22:44:01] <chromas> biological viruses reproduce in live organisms. if a computer virus could reproduce without the computer being alive, wouldn't that make it something else, instead of a virus?
[22:44:58] <Gravis> chromas: biological viruses cannot reproduce without the help of the host, just like computer viruses
[22:45:50] <chromas> Right, but you claimed that if they could reproduce on their own, then computer viruses would be alive
[22:46:13] <chromas> computer worms must be alive too then
[22:46:24] <chromas> because biological worms are alive
[22:46:32] <Gravis> pff
[22:46:59] <Gravis> no, a computer virus is just a series of instructions, just like a biological virus
[22:47:30] <Gravis> biological viruses just have more interesting shapes
[22:49:11] <Gravis> there was an article not long about about the "instruction set of life" or something like that
[22:49:57] <chromas> biological viruses also have container files. "ebola.mkv"
[22:53:18] <Gravis> chromas: http://www.logicallyfallacious.com
[22:53:19] <Schwifty> ^ 03Non Sequitur
[22:53:40] <chromas> the link is a non sequitur
[22:54:05] <chromas> it's another difference between bio and digital viruses
[22:55:10] <Gravis> ah... so you have moved on to trolling?
[22:56:08] <chromas> sure why not; it's the internets
[22:56:48] <chromas> I'll just move your claim that bio viruses being alive would automatically make computer viruses also be alive into the joke dept
[22:57:31] <Gravis> no, it's a valid argument which you aren't challenging
[23:07:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Technologies Behind the EPA's Inability to Evaluate Pressure Before the Animas River Spill - http://sylnt.us - learning-from-mistakes
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[23:31:37] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[23:33:37] <mechanicjay> hey BCF
[23:37:03] <BadCoderFinger> Hey mechanicjay, how are you?
[23:37:32] <mechanicjay> Ready for the weekend!
[23:39:15] <BadCoderFinger> Sadly, we're about as far away from weekend as it gets.
[23:39:21] <mechanicjay> ...yeah
[23:39:26] <BadCoderFinger> But I'd be happy with more weekend and more beer.
[23:40:05] <mechanicjay> start of the Fall quarter is this week -- it's a bit of a mad house this week.
[23:40:48] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, we're on a deadline at work through the end of the year, so it's going to be late nights and maybe weekends later.
[23:41:02] <BadCoderFinger> Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we death march.