#Soylent | Logs for 2015-09-27
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[00:14:29] <crutchy> ~submit http://www.bbc.com
[00:15:00] <exec> error: something went wrong with your submission
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[01:04:35] <crutchy> dangerous fauna not the only thing you gotta worry about in straya
[01:04:43] <crutchy> even the landscape is out to get you!
[01:04:45] <crutchy> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au
[01:04:46] <Schwifty> ^ 03Sinkhole swallows car and caravan at Inskip Point camp ground
[01:13:18] <Bytram> !uid
[01:13:18] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5887, owned by dierdorf
[01:14:23] <crutchy> ~submit http://www.telegraph.co.uk
[01:14:52] <crutchy> creeping up towards 6k :)
[01:14:55] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[01:15:27] <crutchy> http://www.washingtonpost.com
[01:15:28] <Schwifty> ^ 03Congressional agenda thrown into disorder with Boehner’s departure - The Washington Post
[01:16:47] <Bytram> creeping up? yes, but it seems to have gotten stuck at that UID atm.
[01:18:14] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[01:18:30] <Bytram> oh well.
[01:22:09] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, seen it yet? I just caught it on iplayer here :D
[01:25:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, finished after dinner
[01:28:40] <crutchy> http://www.smh.com.au
[01:28:41] <Schwifty> ^ 03Chris Brown won't be able to come to Australia unless he challenges visa refusal
[01:29:33] <crutchy> apparently he's a singer or summin
[01:30:31] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, what did you make of it? ElReg has posted its usual post show review (not read it yet)
[01:31:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dug it. traditional doctor awesomeness and a hanging chad making you wonder what'll become of the mistress.
[01:31:59] <crutchy> http://www.smh.com.au
[01:32:03] <Schwifty> ^ 03Old is new: Five PMs since 2010
[01:32:17] <crutchy> politics here is like a reality tv show
[01:32:28] <crutchy> who will get voted off next?
[01:33:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The 'Pig-Pen' In Each of Us: People Emit Their Own Personal Microbial Cloud - http://sylnt.us - they-are-like-little-tiny-bugs
[01:34:30] <crutchy> from the agent-smith-was-right dept.
[01:35:52] * Bytram is going to consider taking a shower with bleach, then one with hydrogen peroxide, and then apply a good coating of petroleum Jelly!
[01:35:57] <crutchy> http://www.smh.com.au
[01:36:03] <crutchy> shit
[01:36:20] <crutchy> http://hardware.slashdot.org
[01:36:21] <Schwifty> ^ 03Light-Based Memory Chip Is First To Permanently Store Data - Slashdot ( http://slashdot.org )
[01:36:29] <crutchy> forgot to hit ctrl+c
[01:37:53] * crutchy might add http://news.sciencemag.org to #feeds
[01:37:53] <Schwifty> ^ 03News from Science
[01:38:46] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, I liked how it left missy in the exact same situation she earlier described the doctor being in - surrounded and out-gunned. Fair penance for trying to get the doc to exterminate clara in dalek form I thought. No doubt she will be be fine... somehow. :)
[01:39:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> undoubtedly. she's as hard to kill as the doctor is. almost.
[01:40:23] <crutchy> they should make a show about daleks
[01:41:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, a sitcom
[01:42:35] <Deucalion> she is a time lady... same as the doc... I love the feuding and then coming together to face common enemies, then immediately falling out again. It's a classic relationship study in a simplistic way, sometimes we have to ignore our differences to defeat a greater threat. Good episode in all. :D
[01:43:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, like skinheads and punks both hate hippies.
[01:43:55] * Deucalion does the timewarp again.... woah... it's the 70's again!
[01:44:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> shit, might as well. i mean it IS just a jump to the left...
[01:44:38] * Deucalion steps to the right
[01:44:48] <chromas> crutchy: https://soylentnews.org
[01:44:49] <Schwifty> ^ 03SN article: Light-based Memory Chip is the First Ever to Store Data Permanently 04(20 comments)
[01:45:07] <crutchy> chromas, oh cool
[01:45:24] <crutchy> i should read SN more instead of just browsing #feeds :p
[01:46:10] <crutchy> actually it would be handy to have a bender feed in its own moderated channel so you can quickly browse the stories
[01:46:19] <chromas> no need for that :D just watch Bender in here
[01:47:36] <Bytram> can also see them listed in the #rss-bot channel
[01:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i needs me some cross-dressing tim curry tonight
[01:49:00] <crutchy> ~define tim curry
[01:49:03] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03tim curry: A great actor.You probably know him from his fantastic role as dr.frank n furter in the rocky horror picture show.He's done many movies since and continues to act on broadway and things like that....
[01:49:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> good ole urban dictionary
[01:49:56] <crutchy> i had dinner at draculas in melbourne last weekend, where they did the rocky horror picture show in 6 minutes
[01:50:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads
[01:50:21] <Deucalion> rocky horror show theatre performances were great fun.... back in the day... when theatres still existed in most towns... :/
[01:50:48] <crutchy> this one was really good
[01:51:00] <crutchy> the 6 minute skit was only part of the show
[01:51:02] <crutchy> ofc
[01:52:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> janet, dr. scott, janet, brad, rocky, bullwinkle...
[01:52:12] <crutchy> https://www.draculas.com.au
[01:52:14] <Schwifty> ^ 03Home | Draculas
[01:52:35] <crutchy> i wanted to see bloodbath in melbourne, but we missed it by a week :(
[01:53:41] <SirFinkus> swiss according to fortune, you're on the right track http://www.forbes.com
[01:53:41] <Schwifty> ^ 03Forbes Welcome ( http://www.forbes.com )
[01:54:47] <Deucalion> being silly for no good reason and going in drag..... re-donkulous the whole thing was, people are too serious and self conscious these days.... "what might people think of me?". Oh puhlease.... :D
[01:55:12] <crutchy> i'm very self conscious
[01:55:57] <crutchy> though i prefer to just not deal with people
[01:56:52] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[01:56:52] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 182
[01:56:57] <Bytram> teamwork++
[01:56:57] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 12
[01:58:26] <crutchy> ooh Bytram has a rehash fork !?
[01:58:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, ya, i went in NYC while i was on weekend leave from army training many moons ago. the audience fucking around is half the fun at least.
[01:58:38] <crutchy> will have to add that to the spy channel
[01:59:18] <Bytram> crutchy: what else could I do? there were no spoons!
[01:59:20] <Bytram> =)
[01:59:58] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: now, for more important business, how was the fishin today?
[02:00:39] <crutchy> forking is more fun than spooning
[02:00:53] <crutchy> though they could be one and the same too :p
[02:00:56] <Silverly> coffee++
[02:00:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1678
[02:00:59] <Bytram> for queue, maybe. :/
[02:01:12] <Bytram> ~g spoonerism
[02:01:14] <exec> [google] https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:02:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, shit for catfish but the crappie fishers did okay.
[02:03:09] <Bytram> shit vs crappie, eh?
[02:03:56] <Bytram> fish names are amazingly creative and confusing
[02:07:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[02:08:15] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, the whole point of the RHS was the audience participation. I dread to think, in 50 years, people will sit in their cinema seats and clap or sway to re-runs.... then tut and shake their heads. "shameful behaviour". HA - I wore fishnets and heels, had a blast singing along - the whole process of dressing up in that garb introduced me to my first serious relationship ladyfriend (or whatever the term is). Life is too short to be s
[02:08:15] <Deucalion> erious and conserved the whole time. Life is a serious business, but we must take time to laugh and play :D :D
[02:08:21] <Bytram> crutchy: if you'd like to try and break something, there's a patch rolled out to prod to put up a disclaimer whenever viewing a user's journals. I think I've got all the places, but cold stand to have another pair of eyes confirm it.
[02:09:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> really wish i hadn't dated that stripper just cause she played columbia on stage though. i could have done without that particular mistake.
[02:09:49] <Deucalion> Bytram, crutchy has resisted all recruitment efforts to date. Good luck :D
[02:09:57] <crutchy> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[02:09:57] <Bender> Added quote 564
[02:10:38] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, we learn from our mistakes, best to get them done with while young.... it builds a solid foundation.
[02:11:17] <crutchy> Deucalion, i'm too lazy to commit. trust me i'm doing you guys a favor :p
[02:11:45] <chromas> Parents should have mistake parties. like pox parties for the mind
[02:12:04] <chromas> (for the kids)
[02:12:09] <Bytram> but after having such a party, they'll realize it was a mistake, and never try THAT again!
[02:12:22] <Deucalion> The scariest person to come across is the one that claims they never fucked up. Pathological liar or so unaware if themselves they are a liability to all around.
[02:12:34] <Bytram> truth.
[02:12:41] <Bytram> !grab Deucalion
[02:12:41] <Bender> Added quote 565
[02:13:04] <Deucalion> Thanks Bytram, you capped my typo :(
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[02:13:18] <Bytram> np
[02:14:03] <Deucalion> chromas, trolling about vaxers is sooo last year :P
[02:14:04] <Bytram> oh. /me must be tired. I didn't even notice it until the third re-read.
[02:14:09] <Deucalion> lol
[02:14:16] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[02:14:17] <Schwifty> ^ 03SN article: Tesla Powerwall Home Installations Are Starting for Pilot Customers 04(8 comments)
[02:14:45] <Bytram> chromas: looks like you removed the URL de-redirection code?
[02:15:01] <Bytram> or, do you do nothing if it is already canonical?
[02:15:03] <Bytram> hmm
[02:15:30] <Bytram> https://jobs.lever.co
[02:15:31] <Schwifty> ^ 03Kamcord - Partnerships Associate
[02:16:59] <crutchy> preview works: http://i.imgur.com
[02:17:07] <chromas> yeah, it only shows what the server redirects to
[02:18:23] <crutchy> shows up on submit too: http://i.imgur.com
[02:18:45] * chromas spams crutchy's HoTMaiL account
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[02:19:55] <crutchy> everyone else does, so have at it :)
[02:20:27] <crutchy> i rarely login to hotmail though
[02:24:48] <Bytram> crutchy: hey thanks for giving it a go... but I think I may have been unclear... this is on production: https://soylentnews.org
[02:24:48] <Schwifty> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[02:25:02] <crutchy> oh
[02:25:06] <crutchy> derp
[02:25:08] <crutchy> :p
[02:25:19] <Bytram> LOL!
[02:25:27] <Bytram> break time; afk, biab
[02:30:03] <crutchy> http://www.wsj.com
[02:30:04] <Schwifty> ^ 03Fears Over Australia’s Border Laws Halt United Nations Human Rights Visit - WSJ
[02:30:30] <crutchy> yeah damn straight hippy. our navy is on standby for if your boat makes any attempts
[02:34:39] <crutchy> wtf?! http://www.news.com.au
[02:34:39] <Schwifty> ^ 03Funny fail: Man starts gas station fire trying to kill spider
[02:35:23] <Bytram> crutchy: some of the factors to consider on the journal disclaimer message: theme (default, OMG Pwnies, VT100, etc.); friends/foes/etc.; accessing all journal entries for a user vs link to a specific journal entry.
[02:37:55] <crutchy> and logged-in vs public
[02:38:48] <crutchy> public, all entries for user: check
[02:39:17] <crutchy> public, single entry: check
[02:40:03] <crutchy> logged-in, single entry: check
[02:41:12] <crutchy> logged-in, someone else's single entry: check
[02:41:46] <crutchy> maybe i'll just keep looking without the commentary spam :p
[02:41:58] <Bytram> nah, this is GOOD! Keep it up!
[02:46:08] <crutchy> logged-in, someone else's list: check
[02:46:37] <crutchy> doesn't seem to be affected by changing theme or classic index
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[02:46:58] <Bytram> nod nod
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[02:47:20] <Ethanol-fueled> https://theintercept.com
[02:47:21] <Schwifty> ^✓ 03The Greatest Threat to Campus Free Speech is Coming From Dianne Feinstein and her Military-Contractor Husband
[02:47:35] <Ethanol-fueled> \pol\ was right again, folks!
[02:48:23] <SirFinkus> that shit drives me nuts
[02:48:31] <SirFinkus> free speech is my #1 issue
[02:49:11] <crutchy> is it just me or does this look kinda... not good: http://i.imgur.com
[02:49:17] <SirFinkus> idk about /pol/ being right again, but feinstein is a snake, I disagree with nearly everything she says
[02:49:29] * Deucalion whips up a wind of change,,,, this may take a while
[02:49:35] <Ethanol-fueled> kicking people out of college, potentially fucking over their livelihoods, because they dare express free speech.
[02:49:55] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, /pol/ is always right,.
[02:50:22] <crutchy> dammit now i don't even know how to reset the simple layout option
[02:50:30] <crutchy> gotta use browser back button :(
[02:50:39] <SirFinkus> they're occasionally right
[02:51:37] <crutchy> ok the "simple design" preference in slashcode is shit
[02:51:37] <Bytram> crutchy: two things:
[02:51:55] <crutchy> but the journal banner still works :)
[02:52:01] <Bytram> 1.) Looks like you lost the list of topic icons -- prolly just need to hit Ctrl+F5 to reload the page.
[02:52:30] <Bytram> yeah, and you're missing the slashboxes too. definitely looks like you did not get the whole page.
[02:52:42] <SirFinkus> the whole "vast jewish conspiracy" thing they have going on is pretty wacky
[02:52:46] <Bytram> 2.) /clock the SoylentNews candybar to get back to the home page,
[02:53:23] <Bytram> then click on 'Preferences' in: the slashbox: Navigation -> You
[02:53:27] <crutchy> actually it happens when you check all 3: simple design, low bandwidth and no icons
[02:53:44] <Bytram> and then, on the 'Homepage' tab, there is a dropdown to pick your theme
[02:54:03] <Bytram> oh! hmmmm.
[02:54:10] <Bytram> that makes sense, in its own way.
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[02:54:20] <crutchy> maybe its intended behaviour
[02:54:35] <Bytram> yeah, but now you are kinda stuck there.
[02:54:40] <Bytram> here, load this: https://soylentnews.org
[02:54:40] <Schwifty> ^✓ 03Log In
[02:55:16] <crutchy> yeah i'm just tinkering with that now
[02:55:20] <Bytram> crutchy: better yet, this should take you straight there: https://soylentnews.org
[02:55:21] <Schwifty> ^ 03Log In
[02:55:26] <crutchy> yup
[02:56:03] <crutchy> .macro
[02:56:04] <exec> 02 syntax to add: .macro <trigger> <chanlist> PRIVMSG|INTERNAL <command_template>
[02:56:04] <exec> 02 syntax to delete: .macro <trigger> -
[02:56:34] <Bytram> I have LONG wished for a means to, well, "export" one's preferences settings. Then I could go through and muck around to my heart's content. when done, I'd just keep poking until another export gave me the same setup.
[02:56:56] <Bytram> even better would be an ability to IMPORT the exported settings, but that is another layer of challenge
[02:56:58] <crutchy> .macro .sn * privmsg https://soylentnews.org
[02:56:59] <exec> 02 *** macro with trigger ".sn" and PRIVMSG command template "https://soylentnews.org/" saved
[02:57:03] <crutchy> .sn
[02:57:04] <exec> https://soylentnews.org
[02:57:18] <crutchy> sorry, got a little sidetracked there :p
[02:57:37] <Bytram> e.g. imagine we add another control that was not previously present... and then do that again. and again. and now try to import an export from three versions ago. :(
[02:57:50] <Deucalion> Be well soylenteers
[02:58:05] <Bytram> Deucalion: will do, and the same to YOU!
[02:58:07] <crutchy> would be handy to automate testing changes by iterating through all user preferences
[02:58:29] <crutchy> there's quite a few iterations
[02:59:18] <crutchy> where did we get to with that automation stuff?
[02:59:34] <Bytram> lost.
[02:59:34] <crutchy> i think i had a scripty or something i was playing around with
[02:59:39] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:00:05] <Bytram> I don't really remember.
[03:00:15] <crutchy> https://soylentnews.org
[03:00:16] <Schwifty> ^✓ 03SN journal script for automated test comment submissions to dev 04(0 comments)
[03:00:42] <crutchy> hmm. might be able to tweak this
[03:01:33] <Bytram> looking back on it, I've discovered that there are also issues wrt browser, and browser version, as well as OS and OS version, as well as input controls available (e.g. desktop vs phone vs tablet; i.e. mouse/kbd/touch/stylus inputs)
[03:02:18] <Bytram> well, it IS getting well into the evening here and I think it's about time for me to bid all of you adieu
[03:02:29] <crutchy> ~g'night Bytram
[03:02:30] * exec covertly poops a spoon of vibrating rooster sammich for Bytram
[03:02:36] <crutchy> lol
[03:03:07] * Bytram recalls 'The Minority Report' and the fetid sandwich in the fridge. blech!
[03:03:57] <Bytram> crutchy: thanks for all the checking you did! Seems like we got all the bases covered.
[03:04:01] <Bytram> teamwork++
[03:04:01] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 13
[03:04:04] <Bytram> teamwork++
[03:04:04] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 14
[03:04:09] <Bytram> that's a better number
[03:04:22] <crutchy> 69 is the best number
[03:05:58] * Bytram|away is a bit partial to 42
[03:06:11] <Bytram|away> that's like, TWO blackjacks at the same time!
[03:06:16] <Bytram|away> ;)
[03:06:20] <Bytram|away> buh bye!
[03:11:31] <takyon> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[03:17:02] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[03:17:02] <Schwifty> ^ 03Congressman Steals Pope Francis' Water, Brags About It : It's All Politics : NPR
[03:35:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wikipedia's Lawsuit Against NSA Internet Vacuum has First Day in Court - http://sylnt.us
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[07:07:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Use of FOSS OSes Jumps in Gibraltar - http://sylnt.us - kids-using-new-tools
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[08:38:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hackers can Access iPhone Contacts and Photos Without a Password - http://sylnt.us - possession-is-9/10ths-of-pwnership
[09:24:20] <Bytram|away> crutchy: found a spot I'd missed. Clicked on the "n Comments" link which takes you to a page whose URL is of the form: https://soylentnews.org
[09:24:20] <Schwifty> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments |
[09:26:16] <Bytram|away> I used the template editor to put in a temporary fix. It's a bit ugly, but for the time being, gets the job done. A quick look failed to reveal how to get rounded corners in the css. Oh well.
[09:26:21] * Bytram|away goes back to bed.
[09:30:47] <crutchy> not sure i understand, but sounds good :P
[09:32:13] <Bytram|away> pm
[09:33:35] <Bytram|away> crutchy: ^^
[10:24:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:24:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1679
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[10:40:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hovering Camera Drone for Police - http://sylnt.us - dashcam-in-the-sky-OR-only-commit-crime-on-a-windy-day
[10:41:22] <chromas> we just need hats with copter-tracking lasers
[10:43:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just shotguns
[10:55:53] <crutchy> lasers
[10:56:02] <crutchy> gunna happen
[10:56:32] <crutchy> lasers with sharks on them
[11:05:42] <chromas> or bring our own
[11:05:46] <chromas> dueling copters
[11:06:00] * chromas strums a banjo
[11:12:25] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[11:12:25] <Schwifty> ^ 03The Grid - Swamp Thing - YouTube
[11:13:45] <crutchy> now someone just needs to make a remix of thunderstruck with banjos
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[12:43:24] <Bytram|away> coffee++
[12:43:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1680
[12:43:51] <Bytram> g'morning everyone!
[12:44:16] * Bytram didn't sleep enough last night and with the eclipse tonight that ain't looking to good, either!
[12:44:30] <Bytram> s/ to / too /
[12:44:30] <sedctl> <Bytram> didn't sleep enough last night and with the eclipse tonight that ain't looking too good, either!
[12:44:58] <Bytram> is there anybody here who can 'kick the cache' on prod?
[12:46:38] <Bytram> I'm seeing some out-of-sync behavior when I save a template. F5 / Ctrl-F5 sometimes brings up the old version or the next-to-the-last version of the template I saved. But, for some reason fails to get the most-recently-saved version. :/
[12:47:03] * Bytram gots to get ready for work; back in a bit.
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[13:40:31] <crutchy> need a !clear-cache command
[13:40:49] <crutchy> maybe themightybot could do it :)
[13:41:00] <crutchy> err MrPlow
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[17:46:49] <SirFinkus> lol did someone fix the rss feed again?
[17:49:14] <janrinok> they have been playing up all day
[17:49:53] <janrinok> a request was made a few hours ago for someone to reset the system. I don't know whether it has just occurred or not.
[17:59:29] * SirFinkus wonders when the off-by-one bug in the message queue will be fixed
[17:59:49] <SirFinkus> actually took a crack at finding where the problem is myself, but I don't know any of the languages invovled
[18:08:10] <janrinok> do you mean the comment count? or have I misunderstood?
[18:09:04] <SirFinkus> Saw this, posted to Advanced Ligo Facilities Begin Search for Gravitational Waves, has been moderated Interesting (+1).
[18:09:04] <SirFinkus> It is currently scored Interesting (2). should be scored 3
[18:09:30] <SirFinkus> I don't think the karma bonus is being taken into account for the message
[18:11:08] <SirFinkus> poked around in the messages plugin in the relevant function, but didn't see anything obvious and gave up
[18:11:11] <janrinok> I think there is a bit of lag in the counting system. The numbers correct themselves eventually. I think the moderation value and displayed value are calculated at different times
[18:11:36] <janrinok> ... but I could be talking crap as usual
[18:11:40] <SirFinkus> I was thinking that too, but that's a fairly old message
[18:12:03] <SirFinkus> and it's correct on the comment itself
[18:14:03] * SirFinkus just had another idea and goes back to the source
[18:16:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Case Against Non-technical Managers - http://sylnt.us - helps-to-know-what-they-are-doing
[18:27:25] <SirFinkus> perl is gross
[18:28:10] <janrinok> I used to use it a long time ago, but now I'm using Python. Perl is a very powerful language but I didn't find it the easiest to read or write
[18:28:23] <janrinok> I grew to dislike it
[18:28:26] <SirFinkus> lol
[18:35:02] <SirFinkus> I just don't like all the $
[18:35:24] <SirFinkus> I suspect I might have found the problem, but I could be talking crap like you
[18:37:16] <SirFinkus> there's a $comment variable in moderation.pm that I don't think gets updated after the mod change and gets passed directly to the send_mod_message function
[18:38:11] <janrinok> can you give me a line number pse?
[18:38:40] <janrinok> if not, no problem
[18:39:46] <SirFinkus> https://github.com line 347 is where the message is sent, I supposes $comment could just be a pointer the the DB entry or something, haven't dug that deep yet
[18:39:47] <Schwifty> ^ 03slashcode/Moderation.pm at master · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub
[18:40:09] <janrinok> its a good place to start looking.
[18:41:06] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: ^^^ we've noticed a trivial bug and SirFinkus 'might' have pinpointed the error - but we could both be talking out of our backsides again :)
[18:42:06] <SirFinkus> setCommentForMod() seems to cram it into the database, but I can't find where $comment is updated in that method either
[18:43:03] <janrinok> without knowing how it all hangs together, you could spend hours looking at it and not understand it. I've tried on a couple of occasions and given up
[18:43:52] <SirFinkus> I can halfway grok what's going on, but the details are a mystery to me
[18:44:23] <janrinok> ditto - but it will give the guys somewhere to start looking when they get back in tomorrow
[18:44:42] <janrinok> ... although I don't think that they are short of work
[18:44:59] <SirFinkus> probably an easy one, especially if they're just using a var with old data
[18:45:33] <SirFinkus> but then again, it could be some hellish caching issue
[18:46:12] <janrinok> I don't think we get _easy_ bugs - or at least the cursing on here suggests that we don't
[18:46:22] <SirFinkus> I might poke at it again later today
[18:46:31] <SirFinkus> I doubt anyone bitches about the easy fixes
[18:46:46] <SirFinkus> so there's a bit of selection bias here
[18:47:10] <janrinok> I haven't got much more of today left. I'll be in bed in an hour or two, but might get up to see the lunar eclipse
[18:47:36] <SirFinkus> if I had figured it out I would have just submitted a pull request, then maybe gloated later that I was a CONTRIBUTOR if it got accepted
[18:47:46] <janrinok> lol
[19:03:38] <SirFinkus> https://www.facebook.com
[19:03:39] <Schwifty> ^ 03Alex Jones | Facebook
[19:03:45] <SirFinkus> I'm sure this will be entertaining
[19:04:10] * SirFinkus wonders if he'll blame it on haarp
[19:06:51] <SirFinkus> ahh, it's the globalists
[19:22:41] <janrinok> time for me to go - nice chatting with you SirFinkus, hope to see you on here during the week.
[19:22:53] <SirFinkus> yeah, have a good rest
[19:23:14] <janrinok> laters
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[21:39:25] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
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[22:09:53] <BadCoderFinger> Hey crutchy! How are you?
[22:10:21] <crutchy> g'day BadCoderFinger
[22:10:38] <crutchy> going good. tucking into first coffee of this fine monday
[22:10:54] <crutchy> about to head off to workipoos though :(
[22:11:17] <crutchy> just opened lappy to check out news and weather
[22:11:20] <JamesNZ> work++
[22:11:20] <Bender> karma - work: -15
[22:11:23] <JamesNZ> work++
[22:11:23] <Bender> karma - work: -14
[22:11:24] <JamesNZ> work++
[22:11:24] <Bender> karma - work: -13
[22:11:28] <crutchy> work--
[22:11:28] <Bender> karma - work: -14
[22:11:30] <crutchy> :p
[22:11:32] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, it's still Sunday afternoon in the states, so I'm still on beer.
[22:11:39] <crutchy> hah
[22:11:47] <crutchy> sounds good
[22:11:55] <BadCoderFinger> Which, if you know me at all, beer is my lifeblood.
[22:12:13] <crutchy> now they just need caffinated beer
[22:12:28] <BadCoderFinger> We have that already, several varieties.
[22:12:35] <crutchy> putin is a very shrewd leader
[22:12:46] <crutchy> he appears to have ol' obama over a barrel again
[22:12:50] <BadCoderFinger> Red Hook used to make one, it was pretty good. I had to pee a lot, though.
[22:12:54] <JamesNZ> money++
[22:12:55] <Bender> karma - money: -1
[22:12:56] <JamesNZ> money++
[22:12:56] <Bender> karma - money: 0
[22:12:56] <crutchy> lol
[22:12:58] <JamesNZ> money++
[22:12:58] <Bender> karma - money: 1
[22:13:05] <crutchy> yeah money is good
[22:13:17] <crutchy> though the more you have, the more everyone seems to demand
[22:13:25] <JamesNZ> :D
[22:13:32] <BadCoderFinger> Anyone who changes the rules so they can keep being in charge, you have to respect that.
[22:14:18] <JamesNZ> Uhhh, no.
[22:15:11] <BadCoderFinger> Which statement are you disagreeing with?
[22:15:49] <JamesNZ> Your last one.
[22:16:04] <JamesNZ> That's not respectable, that's dangerous.
[22:16:41] <crutchy> though it would seem he's the peace candidate compared to what the USA is doing
[22:16:47] <crutchy> even in Ukraine
[22:16:55] <crutchy> (well, from my perspective anyway)
[22:17:05] <BadCoderFinger> Of course it is! I also didn't say it was a good thing. It can only come from a lackadaisacal government, or a cult of personality. I think it's a bit of both in Putin's case, but that doesn't mean I don't respect his political acumen.
[22:17:12] <crutchy> the USA seems to fuck up everything it touches lately
[22:17:29] <JamesNZ> BadCoderFinger: Ah, ok, my bad.
[22:17:29] <BadCoderFinger> That much is very true, crutchy.
[22:17:53] <crutchy> anyway, off to workipoos. stay safe guys :)
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[22:18:20] <BadCoderFinger> JamesNZ: To summarize, I hate the situation, but I respect Putin's skill.
[22:20:57] <BadCoderFinger> Oh, and I'm happy for people to disagree and discuss differing points of view. So speak up whenever you feel the need, it doesn't offend me in the least.
[22:29:35] <BadCoderFinger> Also, I'm easily bribed with beer. I'm sure Spalls will show up and pretend he has beer... Except that his cats drink it up.
[22:30:52] * BadCoderFinger really expected Spalls to pop in and mention beer by now.
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[22:35:07] <crutchy> back again :)
[22:35:11] <crutchy> though semi-afk
[22:36:52] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, good luck at work!
[22:43:15] <SirFinkus> I'll have beer soon, nitro stout
[22:43:18] <SirFinkus> it's pretty good
[22:44:00] <BadCoderFinger> Nice
[22:44:17] <BadCoderFinger> Torpedo extra IPA today for me.
[22:44:28] <BadCoderFinger> Pretty good beer.
[22:45:41] <SirFinkus> yeah, that's my daily driver if I can't find anything else
[22:46:13] <SirFinkus> is it dark on the east coast yet?
[22:46:16] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, I'm a bit old for daily beer, so it's weekends only for me.
[22:46:25] <SirFinkus> curious about this moon bullshit
[22:46:29] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[22:46:30] <BadCoderFinger> Nah, only 6:45 there.
[22:46:35] <Schwifty> ^ 03Creedence Clearwater Revival: Bad Moon Rising - YouTube
[22:46:53] <SirFinkus> sunset here is 18:59
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[23:35:39] * Mooooooooon offers beers all around in celebration of the mooooooon
[23:35:50] <Mooooooooon> oh wait... scratch that; kitty got to it first
[23:36:17] * JamesNZ howls
[23:39:01] <Mooooooooon> little known fact: everyone in New Zealand is actually a lycanthrope of one sort or another
[23:40:02] <takyon> hi
[23:40:03] <JamesNZ> Surely you mean were-sheep?
[23:40:19] <Mooooooooon> the dreaded were-kiwi!
[23:40:53] <takyon> oh shit
[23:40:59] <takyon> forgot about the superduper moon
[23:41:28] <JamesNZ> It's bleeding, yo.
[23:42:04] <Mooooooooon> well, it's that time of month...
[23:42:20] * Mooooooooon hangs his head in shame for that joke
[23:47:46] <takyon> don't see shit outside
[23:47:53] <takyon> too overcast and stuff
[23:48:49] <SirFinkus> lol badcoderfinger called it
[23:49:18] * SirFinkus posts it again https://www.youtube.com
[23:49:18] <Schwifty> ^* 03Creedence Clearwater Revival: Bad Moon Rising - YouTube
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