#Soylent | Logs for 2015-09-13

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[00:00:18] <crutchy> aye focker
[00:00:29] <Ethanol-fueled> crutch-dawg, 'sup?
[00:00:35] <crutchy> nummuch
[00:00:39] <crutchy> procrastinating
[00:00:44] <Ethanol-fueled> same here.
[00:00:50] <crutchy> i prolly should be out mowing lawn, but meh
[00:00:56] <Ethanol-fueled> gettin' ready to commence drinkink and smokink.
[00:01:14] <crutchy> ah
[00:01:25] <crutchy> still saturday there
[00:01:32] <Ethanol-fueled> do you live in a neighborhood where you get fined if your grass grows too long?
[00:01:41] <crutchy> nah
[00:03:22] <Ethanol-fueled> I wanna move to straya
[00:03:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, there's a place here that serves kangaroo meat...would you recommend it compared to, say, beef?
[00:05:13] <crutchy> beef is awesome
[00:05:28] <crutchy> kangaroo is prolly edible, but it tastes like crap
[00:05:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Looks like beef is the king of all meats
[00:05:41] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, the place serving it is a hipster place.
[00:05:49] <Ethanol-fueled> And kangaroo meat is one of the most expensive options
[00:06:06] * Ethanol-fueled had a venison burger last night
[00:06:09] <Ethanol-fueled> shit was so cash.
[00:09:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Now it's microwave crap for dinner tonight.
[00:10:51] <Deucalion> Pork belly cooked low and slow is delicious... if one is not too concerned about cholesterol that is :D
[00:11:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Sounds good, deucalion. Love that stuff.
[00:11:51] <Deucalion> Used to be a really cheap cut here, then some bastard "celebrity" chefs made a thing of it and the price rocketed :(
[00:12:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Ah, damn, that sucks
[00:12:21] <Ethanol-fueled> That also happened with Salmon eggs and a few other things I like.
[00:12:59] * SpallsHurgenson screeches foul imprecations at windows
[00:13:37] <Deucalion> Damn tasty because of the fat content - keep the skin on and slash & salt it then grill that side super hot at the end of cooking to get nice crispy rind (call it scratchings here). nom nom nom.
[00:14:28] <Deucalion> Why are you screeching at a pane of glass Spalls?
[00:14:59] <SpallsHurgenson> its from seattle :)
[00:15:26] <SpallsHurgenson> its very healthy and normal to screech at things from seattle
[00:15:37] <Deucalion> if you say so
[00:15:41] <SpallsHurgenson> you should try it
[00:15:45] <Deucalion> I'm guessing you live alone....
[00:16:13] <SpallsHurgenson> oh no, we regularly have screech-at-things-from-seattle parties around here
[00:16:16] <SpallsHurgenson> what, you don't?
[00:16:21] <SpallsHurgenson> c'mon man, get with the times!
[00:16:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Here we have "screech-at-thngs-from-Mexico" parties.
[00:16:53] <Ethanol-fueled> More drunken alley-rantings, but loud nonetheless.
[00:17:16] <Deucalion> Seems screeching is a common past time on that yonder side of the pond :/
[00:17:29] <Deucalion> pastime*
[00:17:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Here's kind of a fun-fact -- in Mexican rape trials, the victim has to not only face her accuser but argue with him in court.
[00:17:42] <Deucalion> Now I don;t know which is right - I hate that
[00:17:58] <Ethanol-fueled> The perp is in a cage and cannot harm the victim, but the two still must directly argue with each other, and things can and do get heated.
[00:18:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Mexicans, like Italians, are very passionate in argument.
[00:18:58] <Ethanol-fueled> And by "passionate," I mean "loud as all hell"
[00:19:06] <Ethanol-fueled> I've dated both, I know, hahah!
[00:19:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, Americans are pretty mean-spirited louts.
[00:20:17] <Ethanol-fueled> They may not be as loud as others but they are smarmy, condescending, and impatient.
[00:20:28] <Ethanol-fueled> The rest of the world is justified in hating us.
[00:24:51] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, its raining!
[00:24:56] <Deucalion> Not been my experience of Americans... although it's a pretty big populace to try and fit into one stereotype. And yeh, Hispanic females do seem to carry the same reputation as their southern european kin - "fiery" would be one polite way to describe it.
[00:25:08] * SpallsHurgenson wonders if the rain is from seattle... perhaps I should screech at it just in case
[00:25:28] * Deucalion is glad IRC does not have sound capabilities
[00:25:53] Deucalion is now known as ScreechingHarpie
[00:26:10] ScreechingHarpie is now known as Deucalion
[00:26:20] <SpallsHurgenson> Deucalion: what's your skype name? I wouldn't want you to miss out :)
[00:27:13] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, you exepct me to dole that out on a publically logged IRC channel?
[00:27:44] <SpallsHurgenson> well, no... but people surprise me all the time with the sort of personal information they let loose out onto the internet :)
[00:28:04] <Deucalion> Although I do have a SN specific Skype account...
[00:28:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Spalls, like me?
[00:30:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, what do you believe the effect of audio voice chat would have on this channel?
[00:30:06] <Deucalion> With information spilled by me in here and in SN related discussions, it would not be too hard to come and knock on my front door.
[00:30:09] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm old fashioned; I don't have skype
[00:30:25] <SpallsHurgenson> you wanna talk to me... tough :) :)
[00:30:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, respectable people can get away with that.
[00:32:32] <Deucalion> Ethanol-fueled, I suspect most wouldn't use it, IRC is designed to be less immediately instant than voice chat. Compare the # of idlers we have compared to active blitherers of nonsense at any given time (I include myself in that definition).
[00:33:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, and if somebody wanted voice chat there are many other solutions to accomplish that.
[00:33:42] <Ethanol-fueled> I loved the old Yahoo chat. Made trolling not only super-easy but endlessly fun.
[00:36:41] <Deucalion> I always liked IM in my last place of work... slightly more urgent than an email, but not as stupidly invasive to making any progress as phone calls are. Half-way through something, some tit calls with with some mundane question that is non-urgent and fucks up an hour of productive time thanks to having to get back into "now where was I before that tit called me, man I am angry about that tit calling me about that BS... going for a smoke". Tele
[00:36:41] <Deucalion> phony in the workplace is the satan in my book.
[00:37:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, that was my former boss' solution to shut up all the loudmouths in my department.
[00:38:13] <Ethanol-fueled> We were so loud, like zoo animals, we were moved across the building. When that didn't work, we were made to use IM which cut down on the noise.
[00:41:50] * SpallsHurgenson considers dinner
[00:43:22] <Deucalion> Internal IRC is a good inter/intra-departmental solution too... but so very few companies use it. They seem to favour using some 3rd party IM solution that exposes who TF knows what about internal goings on with the company. ~sigh~
[00:44:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> Deucalion: Slack's got pretty nice web and desktop clients, though.
[00:44:22] <SpallsHurgenson> trebuchets are a great way to pass on necessary information
[00:45:05] * SpallsHurgenson likes trebuchets :)
[00:45:54] <SpallsHurgenson> (you probably didn't know that about me)
[00:47:20] <Deucalion> Worked well for me dealing with support teams spattered across India, Philippines, South Africa and more... one central communication hub to share info and answer non-immediate questions. Also makes the geographically diverse support team communicate and become cohesive. IT Managers hated it, but fuck them, I was more interested in getting shit done.
[00:47:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, why would IT managers hate it?
[00:48:12] <Deucalion> AndyTheAbsurd, Slack has nice web and desktop clients for what? IRC or IM (of various flavours).
[00:48:42] * SpallsHurgenson prefers email and just walking over there :)
[00:49:00] <SpallsHurgenson> (although usually I reserve the latter option after two or three rounds of the first option fail to get results :)
[00:49:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> Deucalion: it's basically IRC with a really nice client. (I'm not sure what the *actual* backend it, but it's got an IRC gateway.)
[00:50:37] <Deucalion> Ethanol-fueled, because it was an MS church, MS does not do an IRC server that can be controlled with powershell and group policy - outside their comfort zone I guess. Obstructive gits in other words... just went over their heads and made it so.
[00:51:14] <Deucalion> AndyTheAbsurd, so some Slack specific IM platform?
[00:51:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Hah, I know that feel. Come to think of it, I've never worked for a company that didn't have an MS-dominated IT culture.
[00:52:40] <Ethanol-fueled> I knew the latest product was going to be a flop when the company announced that silverlight was required to run it. Some kind of payoff had to have happened -- those with half a brain knew that Silverlight was going to rot the second it was released.
[00:53:50] <Deucalion> This from the IT department that saw SharePoint as the answer to everything. Then they wonder why everyone fucks them off and does their own thing with shadow IT from their own budget. Large corps are not fun to work for.
[00:54:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> Deucalion: more like IRC than typical IM.
[00:54:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> I generally consider "IM" to be one-to-one only, and Slack has both IRC-like "channels" and (also IRC-like) one-to-one chats, plus "private groups" that you have to be invited to (which I think IRC has as well but I don't remember the exact terminology).
[00:55:41] * SpallsHurgenson /mode +i
[00:57:06] <Deucalion> AndyTheAbsurd, sounds weird..... IM progs have long had "conference" abilities. And yes IRC channels can be hidden and set as invite only (or given an invex (invite exception) based on hostmask etc.). We use such things right here on SN IRC. Seems odd to make a bespoke Slack version of this.... is it based on open protocols? Or can only Slackers participate?
[01:00:07] <Deucalion> I'm sure if I got hands on with it, it would make sense.... everything "sounds weird" to me until I gain practical knowledge and the light bulb goes on. Just the way my brain functions. Or I am a simpleton :D
[01:08:36] <Ethanol-fueled> takyon's latest journal is pretty good.
[01:08:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> Deucalion: the only real differences between Slack and IRC are (a) the fact that you can connect via multiple clients (desktop, web, mobile, or IRC-gateway) under the same nick, and (b) they've divided it up so that each Slack "team" effectively functions as its own IRC server, so there's far less chance of nick collisions.
[01:08:49] * Ethanol-fueled considers a reply about the Mexican autodefensas
[01:09:12] <Ethanol-fueled> To takyon's journal, which is pretty good.
[01:11:31] <Deucalion> AndyTheAbsurd, wait are we talking about Slack the Linux based OS or another thing called "Slack" that is a communications platform? I fear I am talking from a misunderstanding.
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[01:14:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> Deucalion: another thing called "Slack that is a communications platform.
[01:14:11] <Deucalion> Was it Subsentient here that knocked up their own solution to multiplex IRC clients to one connection? Think it was, but my memory is akin to goldfish.
[01:15:06] <Deucalion> https://slack.com
[01:15:07] <Schwifty> ^ 03Slack: Be less busy
[01:15:07] * Ethanol-fueled giggles sheepishly at "knocked up" Tee-HEE!
[01:15:11] <Deucalion> ^^ this?
[01:15:17] * AndyTheAbsurd doesn't understand why you'd need your own solution to multiplex IRC clients to one connection when you can use tmux+irssi on *nix
[01:15:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, that.
[01:16:54] <takyon> thanks ethanol-fueled
[01:17:51] <Ethanol-fueled> takyon, it's relevant because its a case of the citizens running their own show when the government has failed them.
[01:17:56] <Ethanol-fueled> but you knew that already.
[01:18:07] <takyon> I practically never notice journal entries myself because the recent journal entries sidebar is on my main page, and I typically skip straight to my infopage, story list, subs list
[01:18:51] <takyon> and it's relevant to watching another corrupt Olympics blossom
[01:19:16] <Ethanol-fueled> That's too bad. There are a lot of good journals. By far one of the best features of this place.
[01:20:07] <takyon> yeah, going through them now
[01:20:28] <Deucalion> AndyTheAbsurd, Subsentient likes to roll his own. https://github.com for example - an init system. I think he has journal entries about his own SubLinux distro. Interesting guy to watch... just gets on and does his own shit his own way. I respect that.
[01:20:29] <Schwifty> ^ 03Subsentient/epoch · GitHub
[01:20:36] <Subsentient> Deucalion: Yes, it was me. https://github.com
[01:20:36] <Schwifty> ^✓ 03Subsentient/nexus · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[01:21:09] <Subsentient> Speaking to you through NEXUS now as a matter of fact
[01:21:30] <Ethanol-fueled> sup sub.
[01:21:39] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: hiyah :^D
[01:21:41] <Ethanol-fueled> The resident mad scientest
[01:21:57] <Ethanol-fueled> (along with Ncommander)
[01:22:04] <Ethanol-fueled> scienTIST.
[01:22:06] <Ethanol-fueled> TIST.
[01:22:08] <Ethanol-fueled> TITS.
[01:22:16] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: I knew that's where it was going lol
[01:22:29] * Ethanol-fueled is predictable as always.
[01:22:55] <Deucalion> Subsentient, looks like Epoch has made it's way into arch and gentoo repos or ports.... gaining some ground there :D
[01:23:02] <Subsentient> yup :^)
[01:23:08] <Subsentient> World domination, here I come!
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[01:23:23] <Ethanol-fueled> I knew you before everybody else did, subsentient.
[01:23:46] <Ethanol-fueled> That's what I'm going to tell the throngs of people who pour in here.
[01:24:43] <Subsentient> throng
[01:24:44] <Subsentient> throng
[01:24:45] <Subsentient> thong
[01:24:55] <Deucalion> Careful - I'll forcefully change your nick to Lennart#2 if you go down the world domination route. That'll show you!
[01:24:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Heh heh...huh huh
[01:25:16] <takyon> speaking of nexus, when will we get a gaming nexus
[01:25:18] <Subsentient> Deucalion: I don't intend to write a replacement for the Linux base..... hehe
[01:27:50] <Deucalion> takyon, NC is / was leading the nexus dev work. I believe it is mostly done and ready to roll. Just needs testing the hell out of as far as I know.
[01:28:16] <takyon> it is ready to roll... in the form of breaking news and meta
[01:29:14] <Ethanol-fueled> takyon, hairyfeet is going to be the gaming nexus boss.
[01:29:35] <Deucalion> Subsentient, I'm not even sure what the "Linux base" will be once Lennart#1 is done with it.
[01:30:00] <takyon> I just want a place to spam VR stories, maybe a few game releases
[01:30:11] <Subsentient> Deucalion: What makes you think he'll ever be 'done'?
[01:31:34] <Deucalion> takyon, drop a mail to NC, PJ and TMB to ask for a gaming nexus or category. There is a lot going on the VR space right now - seems sensible to have a place to put it.
[01:33:50] <Deucalion> Subsentient, I suspect he will be done once he deploys a "Linux Registry". Mind you the GNOME project are off on that track too with their gconf database stuff years ago.
[01:34:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, the Linux Registry is a bunch of config files.
[01:35:02] <Deucalion> Ethanol-fueled, it was.
[01:37:24] <Deucalion> Ethanol-fueled, https://en.wikipedia.org << gone but not forgotten.
[01:37:25] <Schwifty> ^ 03Wiki: gconf-editor
[01:38:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh yeah, I used that before. Probably to move the window control buttons back to the right side.
[01:39:56] <Ethanol-fueled> WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.
[01:39:58] <Deucalion> gconf, dconf - GNOME's registry.
[01:41:41] <Deucalion> I put them on the top left.... Menu is top left also so having individual window controls on the top left sense in terms of mousing distance. Utterly irrelevant if you use the keyboard for everything of course.
[01:43:38] <Deucalion> Discussion about window controls is also irrelevant - stick them in with you knob extender for all I care - as long as I have the choice to put them where I like I couldn't give a shit what you do with yours :D
[01:44:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, agreed.
[01:46:02] * Ethanol-fueled passes out
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[02:01:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> that was a fine, fine football game.
[02:02:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> OU beat TN in double overtime
[02:10:46] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:11:08] <takyon> http://www.mccormick.northwestern.edu
[02:19:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Surgeon General's Prescription for Health: Walkable Communities - http://sylnt.us - yet-the-surgeon-lieutenant-likes-the-Porsche
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[03:11:32] <JamesNZ> openstax++
[03:11:32] <Bender> karma - openstax: 1
[03:22:46] <takyon> chemistry++
[03:22:46] <Bender> karma - chemistry: 1
[03:32:01] <Deucalion> openknowledge++
[03:32:01] <Bender> karma - openknowledge: 1
[03:37:17] <Deucalion> Knowledge leads to understanding leads to detente leads to common ground leads to peace leads to a better world. Who in their right mind wants to fight all the time and be at risk of being attacked ... no-one. that is who. It is time to end this bulllshit.
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[03:41:47] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[03:41:48] <Schwifty> ^ 03Woodpeckers Recorder Quartet - JS Bach - die Kunst der Fuge BWV 1080 - Contrapunctus I IX - YouTube
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[03:42:34] <SoyGuest53405> GRONK.
[03:42:44] <takyon> yo
[03:43:41] <SoyGuest53405> Fuck 'em.
[03:45:00] * Deucalion just smiles and wanders off to bed
[03:45:24] <SoyGuest53405> This is a rad video
[03:45:50] <SoyGuest53405> https://www.youtube.com
[03:46:31] <SoyGuest53405> Johann Sebasian Bach beat up his maids in the wine cellar.
[03:49:56] <SoyGuest53405> Haw fuykcfaces
[03:50:14] <SoyGuest53405> https://www.youtube.com
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[04:21:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Fiber may be Coming to San Diego, Irvine, and Louisville - http://sylnt.us - fiber-is-good-for-you
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[05:52:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Video of Tennis Star's Arrest and History of Arresting Officer - http://sylnt.us - its-got-to-stop
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[07:54:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russian Cosmonaut Back After Record 879 Days in Space - http://sylnt.us - welcome-home
[09:04:42] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[09:04:43] <Schwifty> ^ 03Siri answers a question at White House Press Briefing (C-SPAN) - YouTube
[09:04:47] <SirFinkus> ciri does it again!
[09:25:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - California Legislature Approves Bill Legalizing Physician-Assisted Suicide - UK Reject Similar Law - http://sylnt.us
[09:43:30] <cmn32480|workin> ~weather baltimore
[09:43:31] <exec> 03Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 61°F / 16°C, cloudy, wind W at 5 mph, humidity 86% - Sunday scattered showers (55°F-72°F / 13°C-22°C), Monday sunny (58°F-77°F / 14°C-25°C), Tuesday sunny (60°F-82°F / 16°C-28°C), Wednesday sunny (62°F-84°F / 17°C-29°C)
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[09:48:59] <cmn32480> ~weather baltimore
[09:49:01] <exec> 03Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 61°F / 16°C, cloudy, wind W at 5 mph, humidity 86% - Sunday scattered showers (55°F-72°F / 13°C-22°C), Monday sunny (58°F-77°F / 14°C-25°C), Tuesday sunny (60°F-82°F / 16°C-28°C), Wednesday sunny (62°F-84°F / 17°C-29°C)
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[10:13:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:13:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1646
[10:15:12] <cmn32480> amen'
[10:15:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;weather
[10:15:21] <MrPlow> Today: Plentiful sunshine. High 76F. Winds light and variable. Tomorrow: Sunny skies. High 82F. Winds SSE at 5 to 10 mph.
[10:15:21] <cmn32480> that sounds like a great idea
[10:15:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> hells yeah
[10:15:30] <cmn32480> I shoudln't even be up yet
[10:16:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> that is some fine "i have to mow today" weather
[10:16:39] <cmn32480> rained like a mother here yesterday
[10:16:42] <cmn32480> can't mow shit
[10:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. would clog up the mower.
[10:17:20] <cmn32480> exactly
[10:17:37] <cmn32480> but I do get to fire up the chainsaw (we lost a nice piece of a tree
[10:18:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> right goodly storm then
[10:18:44] <cmn32480> it was a Cleveland Pear that needs to get cut back. BUt I haven't had the $$ to get it done
[10:18:58] <cmn32480> I have about 5 trees that need a good pruning
[10:19:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah yeah, fruit trees are bad about losing bits of themselves
[10:19:10] <cmn32480> yeah
[10:19:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> pear and apple not as bad as most though like peach and plum and such
[10:20:29] <cmn32480> the cleveland pear is like the bradford pear
[10:20:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> lot of trees you're not supposed to prune cept in the winter. make sure n do your homework before you go just sawing away.
[10:20:50] <cmn32480> look nice, grow fast, but if you don't keep them trimmed, they lose big chinks
[10:20:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nod nod
[10:21:23] <cmn32480> if _I_ prune them, it will be about 8 inches above ground level
[10:21:43] <cmn32480> then a pick and shovel to remove the stump
[10:21:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha, i like playing with chainsaws
[10:22:01] <cmn32480> so we will be paying someone to do it
[10:22:09] <cmn32480> but I have to clean up the mess first
[10:22:21] <cmn32480> i find usnig my chainsaw very relaxing
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[10:22:29] <cmn32480> and I love cutting firewood by hand
[10:22:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> tractor cutting trees is fun until you gotta haul the limbs out of the yard
[10:22:54] <cmn32480> tractor cutting? not a term I am familar with
[10:23:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> just means cutting them above where they're gonna bash you in the head on a tractor or riding mower or whatever
[10:24:03] <cmn32480> ahhh
[10:24:04] <cmn32480> yes
[10:24:09] <cmn32480> I do that annually
[10:24:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, i got one that's managed to grow down to head bashing level over the summer. need to do that before i mow.
[10:24:41] <cmn32480> we have some very tall firs that start to droop....
[10:24:47] <cmn32480> they need a trim too
[10:25:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, firs aren't all that bad. not like the red cedar they got all over OK
[10:25:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't do a damned thing with those except cut em off a few feet above the ground and pull the stump out with a tractor
[10:25:58] <cmn32480> agreed. I have some other stuff too... a few hardwoods, and somethign that I havne't identified yet that keeps dropping widowmakers
[10:27:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> thing i dig about this place most is NONE of the trees are actually my trees. they're all just hanging over from someone else's yard.
[10:27:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> so i don't gotta mow around em
[10:27:26] <cmn32480> nice
[10:27:42] <cmn32480> we back to woods, so technically they aren't my trees... but I get all tehir leaves
[10:28:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> my place in OK i had a tree at least every 20' and buncha lawn furniture and flower beds and shit that suuuucked to mow around
[10:29:03] <cmn32480> ick
[10:29:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> my yard now is just two big rectangles of grass with a bit on the sides for good measure.
[10:29:58] <SirFinkus> if your mower is good enough you can just mow through them
[10:29:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> think we got a double lot, maybe triple
[10:30:04] <SirFinkus> you just needed a bigger mower
[10:30:14] <SirFinkus> or mow with fire
[10:30:17] <cmn32480> my lot is only 1/4 acre
[10:30:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> you ain't kiddin. the riding mower wouldn't fit on the moving truck. we're using a little bitty push mower nowadays.
[10:30:39] <cmn32480> but the lot that adjoins mine is owned by the HOA, and is an additional 1/2
[10:30:46] <Subsentient> Finally got brightness control on my laptop
[10:31:01] <cmn32480> so I get to mow 3/4 acre
[10:31:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> smooth. one of these days i might work on that for mine.
[10:31:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha
[10:31:22] <Subsentient> compiled the 'light' utility, and used XFCE's keyboard shortcuts section to map it
[10:31:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i pity you the HOA. buncha fascists
[10:31:43] * Subsentient can now completely turn off his backlight and read the screen with a flashlight
[10:31:47] <cmn32480> this one is far less invasive than the last one
[10:31:54] * Subsentient turns off his backlight
[10:32:03] * cmn32480 turns on his flashlight
[10:32:17] <Subsentient> It's dark in here.
[10:32:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> alls i got is a landlord and semi-concerned neighbors.
[10:32:29] * cmn32480 didn't say it was a big flashlight
[10:32:41] * Subsentient whacks cmn32480
[10:32:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, s/ash/esh/
[10:32:49] <sedctl> <TheMightyBuzzard> <cmn32480> didn't say it was a big fleshlight
[10:32:51] <exec> <TheMightyBuzzard> <cmn32480> didn't say it was a big fleshlight
[10:33:03] <Subsentient> ha.
[10:33:03] * cmn32480 hehe
[10:33:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, we got twins now
[10:34:14] <cmn32480> the HOA here handles maintenance of the common ground, and plowing/garbage in the townhouse part of the development
[10:35:05] <cmn32480> and the 2 kiddie playgrounds
[10:35:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but they still prolly do things like tell you that you can't put a car up on blocks in your yard.
[10:35:28] <cmn32480> yes
[10:35:32] <cmn32480> it has to be in the driveway
[10:35:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is all fine and good until you run over a board with nails in it that some douchebag left to be run over
[10:35:51] * TheMightyBuzzard has done that before
[10:36:09] * SirFinkus submits a tip to fbi.gov
[10:36:29] <cmn32480> certain things, like no RV's in the street for more than a week
[10:36:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> four bloody flats. took at least 3 patches each.
[10:36:45] <SirFinkus> oh, I thought you were the douchebag
[10:36:51] <cmn32480> but they aren't really too draconian
[10:36:52] -!- sedctl [sedctl!~sedctl@0::1] has parted #Soylent
[10:36:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool cool
[10:37:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, not that time
[10:37:37] <SirFinkus> I think I'd agree with the rv in the street thing
[10:37:42] <cmn32480> ok
[10:37:45] <SirFinkus> HOA rules can be ok sometimes
[10:37:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> thought about it though when the school bus kept running through the edge of my yard and leaving a rut
[10:38:04] <cmn32480> WTF???? how did my character set get changed to GB18030 (Chinese)
[10:38:14] <SirFinkus> garbage guy uses our gravel driveway to turn around
[10:38:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice
[10:38:23] <SirFinkus> that's an obscure one
[10:38:27] * Subsentient goes pppppttthphtphpthpthppthtphpppththphthhh!!! at cmn32480
[10:38:36] * cmn32480 whacks Subsentient
[10:38:43] * Subsentient summons the gerbils
[10:39:15] <cmn32480> oh dear
[10:39:26] <cmn32480> I've got 3 connections running now
[10:39:42] <cmn32480> ~weather Baltimore
[10:39:44] <exec> 03Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 61°F / 16°C, partly cloudy, wind W at 8 mph, humidity 81% - Sunday scattered showers (55°F-73°F / 13°C-23°C), Monday sunny (59°F-78°F / 15°C-26°C), Tuesday sunny (60°F-82°F / 16°C-28°C), Wednesday sunny (62°F-84°F / 17°C-29°C)
[10:39:48] <cmn32480> brb
[10:40:15] <cmn32480> ~weather baltimore
[10:40:17] <exec> 03Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 61°F / 16°C, partly cloudy, wind W at 8 mph, humidity 81% - Sunday scattered showers (55°F-73°F / 13°C-23°C), Monday sunny (59°F-78°F / 15°C-26°C), Tuesday sunny (60°F-82°F / 16°C-28°C), Wednesday sunny (62°F-84°F / 17°C-29°C)
[10:40:29] <cmn32480> hey! I see the right stuff again!
[10:40:34] <cmn32480> been like that for weeks
[10:40:42] <cmn32480> and I never bothered to look inot it
[10:41:02] <cmn32480> musta scrolled the mouse in that field
[10:41:05] <SirFinkus> ~weather olympia
[10:41:07] <exec> 03Olympia, WA, USA - currently 58°F / 14°C, partly cloudy, wind S at 5 mph, humidity 91% - Sunday partly cloudy (49°F-70°F / 9°C-21°C), Monday cloudy (47°F-65°F / 8°C-18°C), Tuesday scattered showers (49°F-64°F / 9°C-18°C), Wednesday showers (52°F-63°F / 11°C-17°C)
[10:41:23] <cmn32480> I see the degree signs and everything again! WOO HOO!
[10:41:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, i forget how good h264 is at compressing things. recorded the stream of the OU/UT game last night and it came out to a whopping 218M for 4h worth of game.
[10:41:28] * cmn32480 does the happy dance
[10:41:39] <cmn32480> nice
[10:41:47] <SirFinkus> can't wait until h.265 becomes the thing
[10:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it'll be nice but man it's slow encoding compared to h264
[10:42:49] * cmn32480 goes to make coffee
[10:42:57] <SirFinkus> it'll speed up
[10:43:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> here's hoping. i know some of the newer vid cards can do it on silicon.
[10:43:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> but that'd mean shelling out moneys that i don't wanna part with while i'm not working
[10:44:04] <SirFinkus> I tried that a few times with h.264, it was pretty unreliable
[10:44:07] <SirFinkus> gpu encoding I mean
[10:44:18] <SirFinkus> I think most people toss it on the cpu
[10:44:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it's the sloppy floating point math
[10:44:44] <SirFinkus> it wasn't *that* much faster either
[10:45:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can get like 300fps encoding from my vid card, only like 60ish from cpu
[10:45:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> but like ya said, it's not a great quality encode
[10:45:49] <SirFinkus> that's all that really matters imo
[10:45:53] <SirFinkus> within reason
[10:46:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. if i can leave it to run overnight i always use the slowest settings possible.
[10:47:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept two pass. screw that. set movies to q=20 and everything else to q=23 and call it good.
[10:47:16] <SirFinkus> for transparent 1080p stuff, I probably pull about 15fps
[10:47:21] <SirFinkus> two pass is shitty
[10:47:31] <SirFinkus> nobody uses that anymore
[10:47:39] <SirFinkus> nobody good anyway
[10:47:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> it was nice back in the day. gave better quality.
[10:48:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> but CQ is more than good enough nowadays.
[10:52:01] <SirFinkus> I go by what the major encoding/piracy groups use
[10:52:47] <SirFinkus> some of them get super picky and will modify the bitrate manually for different parts of the file
[10:53:24] <SirFinkus> which is great
[10:53:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm picky but i'd rather just have mine come out 10% larger than theirs and not have to manually tweak
[10:55:04] <SirFinkus> I appreciate the attention to detail
[10:55:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nobody really cares about the difference in time it takes to download 350MB vs 250MB anymore anyway cept the chumps still stuck on sattelite or dialup
[10:55:32] <SirFinkus> especially if they're aiming to be *the* encode for some popular new movie
[10:55:54] <SirFinkus> for a 1080p movie, the difference can be several GB
[10:56:15] <SirFinkus> or you can even have 2 files that are the same size, but one looks much better
[10:56:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Internet Mob Gets "Tournament of Rapists" Tabletop Game Taken Down - http://sylnt.us - going-off-half-cocked
[10:56:23] <cmn32480> hey... that describes Martyb!
[10:56:43] <SirFinkus> oh boy, that looks like fun
[10:56:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, i never go for the ~really~ high quality rips. difference between them and a good enough 1080p rip isn't really visible to me.
[10:56:45] <cmn32480> the guy on dialup
[10:57:06] <SirFinkus> I don't download movies of the internet illegally
[10:57:11] <SirFinkus> off even
[10:57:29] * TheMightyBuzzard whistles innocently
[10:57:29] <cmn32480> movies of the internet is boring
[10:58:04] <SirFinkus> yify can DIAF though
[10:58:06] <cmn32480> especially the comments part...
[10:58:10] <SirFinkus> utter trash
[10:58:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, ya, comments suck. we should disable em on the site.
[10:58:47] <cmn32480> absolutely
[10:59:16] <SirFinkus> worst release group
[10:59:28] <cmn32480> any way we can just disable the youtube quality ones?
[10:59:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> quick and reliably crappy though
[10:59:49] <SirFinkus> dishonest
[10:59:53] <SirFinkus> https://i.warosu.org
[11:00:00] <SirFinkus> example of their bitrates
[11:00:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, i think i have a userscript for that
[11:00:23] <SirFinkus> they take all the screenshots from the first part of the movie
[11:00:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, nope.
[11:00:39] <cmn32480> the whole moderation thing?
[11:00:50] <cmn32480> meh... it is overrated
[11:00:53] <SirFinkus> and use 64kbps for the audio, which sounds awful
[11:01:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> must have lost that script somewhere. it turned off youtube comments entirely which was wonderful.
[11:01:48] <SirFinkus> the 1080p releases look and sound worse than SD content from a quality encoder
[11:02:04] <cmn32480> rats....
[11:02:34] <SirFinkus> the audio is the worst bit, sounds like shit
[11:02:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, some utter cunt drank my coffee. ima go get a refill and have a smoke.
[11:03:12] <cmn32480> mine shoudl be brewed adn aged by now....
[11:03:15] <cmn32480> good plan
[11:03:50] * SirFinkus woke up at 9pm, so it's beer time for him
[11:04:34] <cmn32480> I been up since 330
[11:08:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> 5am here, same as always
[11:09:19] <cmn32480> it wasn't on purpose buzzard
[11:09:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> holy fuck, how did my volume get set all the way up
[11:10:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> that was one loud ping
[11:10:13] <cmn32480> you either puched the button, or turned the knob.
[11:10:20] <cmn32480> was it on 11?
[11:10:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> 12. i don't screw around.
[11:10:59] <cmn32480> yeehaw!
[11:12:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, what to do now? not going fishing until like 11.
[11:12:56] <cmn32480> too early to fire the mower
[11:13:06] <cmn32480> write code?
[11:13:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> sunday. i never code the site on the weekends unless it's release weekend.
[11:14:12] <cmn32480> find whiskry for the coffee?
[11:14:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, wouldn't go well on an empty stomach and i don't do breakfast.
[11:14:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> could shoot baddies in my space ship i guess
[11:15:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> or play with MrPlow
[11:15:46] <cmn32480> Mr Plow.. that's my name... that nema again is Mr. Plow
[11:16:09] <SirFinkus> "release weekend"
[11:16:14] <SirFinkus> sounds like a nightmare
[11:16:27] <cmn32480> only when it goes pear shaped
[11:16:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, generally. something always fucks up.
[11:16:42] <SirFinkus> oh btw, TheMightyBuzzard, you ever get Grandia 2?
[11:16:50] <SirFinkus> somebody is redoing all the ui assets
[11:16:56] <SirFinkus> shaping up pretty well
[11:17:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, gog version wouldn't run on my box for some reason though.
[11:17:35] <SirFinkus> annoying, if you ever get it running, I'd highly suggest http://www.eivigames.com.br
[11:17:36] <Schwifty> ^ 03EIVIGAMES: Grandia II Anniversary Edition - HD Mod
[11:17:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> having a play at naev at the moment.
[11:18:11] <SirFinkus> naev?
[11:19:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> lemme finda link
[11:20:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://blog.naev.org
[11:20:11] <Schwifty> ^ 03Naev Development Blarg
[11:20:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> ain't fantastic by no means but it should kill a week or two.
[11:21:24] <SirFinkus> ahh, neat
[11:21:30] * SirFinkus bookmarks
[11:23:01] <cmn32480> TMB - did yo put the code into dev for the adjusted "Non-Acceptance" of a submission?
[11:23:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, it's on the dev server, yeah. not in the main git repo yet though.
[11:23:50] <cmn32480> so it woudl be live in dev?
[11:23:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> got some install issues that i did manually on dev
[11:23:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[11:24:10] <cmn32480> cool... I got time to kill... so I thoguht I'd give it a lookie
[11:24:26] <cmn32480> maybe play Bytram and do some testing
[11:24:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> only for individual stories right now cause how do you reject several for the same reason unless they're spam and then who cares if the user knows why.
[11:25:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, just don't bother testing utf8. you don't need to tell someone you rejected their story because 💩
[11:27:07] <cmn32480> that character still looks like a number 4 die
[11:27:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> oops, shot a friendly
[11:30:31] <cmn32480> now I get to grouse about getting rejected, since I did it myself?
[11:47:27] <Bytram|away> coffee++
[11:47:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1647
[11:47:32] <Bytram|away> g'morning all.
[11:47:34] <Bytram|away> !uid
[11:47:34] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5868, owned by Poodle448
[11:47:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:47:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1648
[11:47:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Bytram|away
[11:48:02] <Bytram> ahhhh, that feels better!
[11:49:34] <Bytram> cmn32480: I don't know what's up with it, but the editor controls don't work 'right' for me on Pale Moon 25.7.0 x86 on win 7 pro; they keep kicking me out of content fields and back to the one that originally had the focus. Verified that it seemed okay on Opera, but that browser then tried to make itself my default browser. :(
[11:49:48] <Bytram> I ain't plaining with THAT again any time soon.
[11:50:17] <Bytram> that is whenI am first looking at a sub and before I've clicked 'preview' to put it into the story queue.
[11:50:30] <Bytram> cmn32480: btw, good morning!
[11:50:32] <cmn32480> heya Bytram
[11:50:37] <cmn32480> Bytram !!
[11:50:47] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: and a pleasant g'morning to you, too!
[11:51:19] * Bytram woke at 0600 and am too awake to go back to sleep and to tired to really get motivated before going in to work today.
[11:51:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, install regular firefox then as well as PM
[11:51:29] * cmn32480 has been up since 0330
[11:51:42] <cmn32480> he knows the feeling
[11:51:53] <Bytram> same issue, then FF will try and make itself my default browser. I don't like where they are headed with that.
[11:52:19] <Bytram> after the recent win 10 shenanigans, thought, I'm getting more and more willing to run a Linux distro
[11:52:20] <cmn32480> try IE, it doenst' ahve any flaws!
[11:52:46] <Bytram> prolly put one in a VM (haven't done that on a PC before) and then run the browser in there.
[11:52:51] <Bytram> *snort*
[11:53:07] <Bytram> haven't used it since I got this lappy
[11:53:17] <cmn32480> virtual box and Ubuntu, I have one running as we speak
[11:53:39] <Bytram> can you access the same file in each environment?
[11:54:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, all browsers do that. it's what browsers do.
[11:54:27] <cmn32480> yes, there is the ability to share a folder or mapped drive between them
[11:54:36] * Bytram has nearly a gazillion .bat proggies he's created over the years... would be nice to be able to transition over gradually, but then I'd need to be able to run things in parallel
[11:54:53] <Bytram> hrrrrm.
[11:55:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's dirt simple to get PM to take back association though.
[11:55:31] * Bytram is increasingly willing to take a chance
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[11:55:59] <Bytram> yeah, I *think* I got PM to take things back, but until I do a reboot, I don't want to take anyt chances.
[11:56:15] <cmn32480> I believe that all browsers give the pop-up asking if yuo wanna make them the default.
[11:56:23] <Bytram> that said/written, FTYPE and ASSOC still show Opera instead of Pale Moon
[11:56:28] <cmn32480> generally, all you need to do is say "no"
[11:56:34] -!- K_benzoate [K_benzoate!~Adium@02-904-949-88.dhcp.gvrb.ca.charter.com] has joined #Soylent
[11:56:42] <Bytram> Opera did NOT ask when I installed it.
[11:57:20] <cmn32480> Opera apparently sucks
[11:57:24] <Bytram> that's Opera: v31.0.1889.174
[11:57:31] <cmn32480> Chrome, FF, IE, all ask
[11:58:04] <Bytram> I can't remember hte last time I told a program "yeah, just do whatever you want when you install." I'm constantly on the lookout for 'custom install' and the like.
[11:58:09] <Bytram> grrrr.
[11:58:24] <SirFinkus> lol windows
[11:58:27] <Bytram> well, that's good to know that at least they try to play nice
[11:59:29] <SirFinkus> hate to brag about osx, but that culture doesn't seem to exist nearly to the extent windows developers embrace it
[12:00:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> what the steal all associations for yourself culture?
[12:00:05] <SirFinkus> tends to be more of a "give me a few bucks for the program I spent time developing" thing, which I prefer
[12:00:07] <Bytram> I *thought* i'd done a "FTYPE > ftype.yyyymmddv.txt" and "ASSOC > assoc.yyyymmddv.txt" right after I got this lappy, but can't remember where I put 'em
[12:00:22] <SirFinkus> TheMightyBuzzard unable to parse
[12:00:31] <SirFinkus> it's entirely absent in linux distributions
[12:00:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:00:55] <SirFinkus> oh wait, I think I get it
[12:01:10] <SirFinkus> like, I install winamp and it wants to play my videos too?
[12:01:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[12:01:31] <Bytram> VNC ftw
[12:01:37] <Bytram> afk soonish
[12:01:45] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:01:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1649
[12:01:49] <Bytram> afk; back soonish
[12:05:31] <cmn32480> hey buzzard, I just rejected a story (on dev) and got no feedback.
[12:05:43] <cmn32480> is it supposed to give me a site message or an email?
[12:05:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> think it defaults to email unless you have it set otherwise
[12:06:15] <cmn32480> does it work on SN email addresses? or si that broken for everythgin?
[12:06:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> works everywhere
[12:06:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> dev has no mail issues
[12:06:57] <cmn32480> hmmmmmmmmmm
[12:07:29] <cmn32480> there a time delay for the message to be generated or is it real time?
[12:07:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, there's a delay
[12:08:11] <cmn32480> any idea on what that delay is time-wise?
[12:08:24] <Bytram> and is it set as a system VAR
[12:08:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> forgot i'd been manually running the update script right after i rejected one
[12:08:49] <cmn32480> ok
[12:08:50] <Bytram> cmn32480++ for thinking of the SN email issue!
[12:08:50] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 22
[12:08:56] <Bytram> =)
[12:09:03] <cmn32480> so the short version is hurry up and wait?
[12:09:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, gimme a sec and i'll run it
[12:09:52] <cmn32480> I'm jsut happy to have access to dev again
[12:12:27] <cmn32480> at some point my access was borked
[12:12:33] <Bytram> I have not, as yet, received any e-mail notifications sent to my SN email addy.
[12:12:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> there ya go
[12:13:00] * Bytram just turned set almost all of my dev message settings to: E-mail
[12:13:12] <Bytram> s/turned //
[12:13:14] <exec> <Bytram> just set almost all of my dev message settings to: E-mail
[12:13:48] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:13:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1650
[12:14:02] <Bytram> that nick, though, has a non-sn email addy.
[12:14:10] <cmn32480> DOH.... I dind't change the message preference
[12:14:17] <cmn32480> I'm a dumbass
[12:15:51] <Bytram> okay. Just changed my dev site userinfo so email goes to my SN email addy.
[12:16:53] <Bytram> oh oh.
[12:16:57] <Bytram> "Required but never displayed publicly, unless you specify so in your comment preferences. This is where your passwd is mailed. If you change this address, a notification will be sent, and you will need to follow the enclosed instructions to re-register. "
[12:16:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, s'okay. it's easy to rerun now that i'm actually logged in to dev. up-arrow and enter.
[12:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, no, it just changes
[12:17:17] * Bytram checks his SN email inbox
[12:17:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> that needs updated
[12:17:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> make a note, bug-wrangler
[12:17:57] <Bytram> interesting... I *did* get *that* email!
[12:18:02] <Bytram> "The user account martyb on Dev.SN had this email associated
[12:18:03] <Bytram> with it. A web user from 166.234.117.171 has just changed it to
[12:18:03] <Bytram> martyb@soylentnews.org.
[12:18:03] <Bytram> If this is not correct, if you did not request this change,
[12:18:03] <Bytram> please email us immediately at noreply-dev@soylentnews.org."
[12:18:07] * SirFinkus just remembered penny phones
[12:18:16] * SirFinkus feels old
[12:18:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but there are no extra steps you gotta take
[12:18:33] <cmn32480> oooo we now have bytram's IP!!! everybody start hacking!
[12:18:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> it lies
[12:18:48] <Bytram> penny phones? as in paying one penny to make a phone call?
[12:19:06] <SirFinkus> no, it was a promo in the late 90s I think
[12:19:12] <Bytram> oh.
[12:19:14] <Bytram> brb
[12:19:20] <SirFinkus> genesis of contract phone planes
[12:19:35] <SirFinkus> maybe not the genesis
[12:19:42] <SirFinkus> but when they started getting popular
[12:19:52] <cmn32480> early stages of the contract
[12:21:09] <Bytram> back
[12:21:29] <cmn32480> buzzard - pleae rerun the script
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[12:21:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> done
[12:21:43] <Bytram> that's one advantage of tethering... can get a new IP addy in just a few seconds
[12:22:09] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: what did you do?
[12:22:16] <Bytram> oh, I see. nvm
[12:22:43] <cmn32480> We're sorry, your submission "Rejection Test 2" was declined for the following reason:
[12:22:43] <cmn32480> IT's Not Scottish... so it's CRAP!
[12:22:43] <cmn32480> The editors felt it inappropriate for them to correct the issue themselves. Please feel free to correct the issue yourself and resubmit.
[12:23:11] <Bytram> nice!
[12:23:21] <cmn32480> that came across the web interface. changin now for email
[12:25:01] <Gravis> cmn32480: no true scottsman would write that!
[12:25:21] <cmn32480> Good thing I am not a true Scot.
[12:25:29] <Gravis> falacy^2 attack!
[12:25:49] <cmn32480> I'm half greasy Italian, have dirty Cuban
[12:26:05] <Bytram> sounds like a sausage?
[12:26:31] <cmn32480> a big, spicy viral sausage
[12:27:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Making a Difference With Open Source Science Equipment - http://sylnt.us - application-of-commonsense
[12:28:34] <cmn32480> I have rejected and set to email w/ a SN address.
[12:28:43] <cmn32480> Buzzard - please work your magic
[12:28:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> done
[12:29:08] <cmn32480> brb - need more coffee, and gotta make my middle one breakfast
[12:29:42] <cmn32480> interesting
[12:29:58] <cmn32480> it went to the email address, whcih is good
[12:30:27] <cmn32480> for the first story that I declined, and had thigns set to "web" I also got an email
[12:30:36] <Bytram> when trying to submit a story, and have removed the text in the 'Your Name' field, the story preview displayed:
[12:30:37] <Bytram> "writes:
[12:30:37] <Bytram> Submitted as 'Plain Old Text' and though logged in, submitted with the 'Your Name' field left blank so it appears to be submitted as 'Anonymous'."
[12:30:55] <Bytram> notice how there's nothing before the "writes:"
[12:30:57] <Bytram> :/
[12:31:01] * Bytram clicks submit
[12:31:55] <Bytram> whatever happened to the "An Anonymous Coward writes" ??
[12:34:02] <cmn32480> you have to fill in AC in the "your name" box on the submission page
[12:34:12] <cmn32480> i think that is the default if you are not logged in
[12:35:07] <Bytram> yes, if I am not logged in, that makes sense, but I also thought that if I elected to post anonymously, that it ALSO indicated that it came from an AC. It certainly makes no sense as it now stands.
[12:35:28] <cmn32480> no. if logged in, I think you get credit regardless
[12:38:18] <Bytram> I'm looking at 20150912c and I don't see any '$foo writes:' field at all.??!?
[12:38:27] <Bytram> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[12:38:28] <Schwifty> ^ 03SN (dev) Submission by : 20150913c story submission email notification test
[12:38:59] <cmn32480> that matches what happens on prod
[12:39:21] <Bytram> ok... but does that make sense?
[12:39:36] <cmn32480> if the "your name" field is blank, the "$foo writes" is removed
[12:40:01] <Bytram> hrrrm. That makes more work for the Eds...
[12:40:16] <Bytram> "A user who requested anonymity writes:"
[12:40:23] <cmn32480> how so? we generally leave that as is
[12:40:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas fine, they need something to keep them busy anyway. buncha slackers.
[12:40:45] <cmn32480> HEY!!! I resemble that remark!
[12:40:54] <Bytram> you mean with no indication of who submitted the story?
[12:42:21] <cmn32480> correct Bytram
[12:43:38] <Bytram> not that we receive that many user-requested anonymous posts, but that makes a bit more intellectual load on the editors to remember to look to see if the attribution line is present, and if not, provide something.
[12:43:57] <cmn32480> we don't provide anythign, generally if it is not present
[12:44:08] <SirFinkus> god damn
[12:44:12] <SirFinkus> cheese is the best
[12:44:22] <Bytram> so, we basically push the intellectual load down on to the users.
[12:44:27] <SirFinkus> can't think of a better food
[12:44:35] <Bytram> to see if they notice and, if so, let them fill in the gap.
[12:44:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> behold the power of cheese
[12:44:52] <Bytram> $burrito SirFinkus
[12:44:52] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at SirFinkus
[12:45:12] <Bytram> woulda been better if it was a chunk of smelly cheese
[12:45:20] <Bytram> j/k
[12:45:20] <SirFinkus> any cheese
[12:45:25] <SirFinkus> but cheddar is good
[12:45:30] <SirFinkus> like, sharp cheddar
[12:45:40] <SirFinkus> still my favorite probably
[12:45:56] <Bytram> I can sit down with a 1/2 lb chunk of cheese and a knife and just enjoy.
[12:46:09] <Bytram> cheddar, swiss, Jarlsberg (Yum!)
[12:46:10] <SirFinkus> oh fuck yess
[12:46:13] <chromas> RMS extra sharp
[12:46:25] <Bytram> Root Mean Square?
[12:46:54] <chromas> gnu/toecheese
[12:46:58] <Bytram> (I Gnu you did not mean Richard M Stallman!)
[12:47:09] <Bytram> lol
[12:47:15] <chromas> cheese++
[12:47:15] <Bender> karma - cheese: 10
[12:47:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> well shit, my coffee's empty again
[12:47:36] <Bytram> velveeta-- pasturized process cheese food
[12:47:36] <Bender> karma - velveeta: -1
[12:48:06] <chromas> mmm…Cheese Product
[12:48:12] <Bytram> extra sharp cheddar with hot apple pie? A match made in heaven
[12:48:33] <SirFinkus> thought it was pasturized prepared cheese food product
[12:48:42] <cmn32480> bytram - shall we move testing to #editorial or #qa?
[12:48:49] <SirFinkus> or is that spray cheese?
[12:48:56] * Bytram shudders
[12:49:18] <SirFinkus> spray cheese is pretty good, not gonna lie
[13:09:08] <cmn32480> buzzard - can you run the script again, please?
[13:09:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> done
[13:09:43] <cmn32480> email received! to an outside address.
[13:11:20] <cmn32480> found a minor issue buzzard
[13:11:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup?
[13:11:49] <cmn32480> the email that gets generated, uses //dev.soylentnews.org/submit.pl as the resubmit link
[13:12:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, yeah i meant to fix that
[13:12:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> forget the variable that needs to go there though. i'll ask paulej72 later.
[13:12:34] <cmn32480> ok
[13:24:26] <cmn32480> buzzard - can you run the script again, please?
[13:24:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> done
[13:27:12] <cmn32480> very interesting
[13:27:28] <cmn32480> so here is what I have found so far:
[13:27:37] <cmn32480> 1) External email works
[13:27:43] <cmn32480> 2) SN email works
[13:27:48] <cmn32480> 3) Web MEssage works
[13:28:13] <cmn32480> 4) With web message and the account having a SN email, BOTH are generated
[13:28:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, weird
[13:28:40] <cmn32480> 5) With web message and an external email, only the web message is received.
[13:29:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> think that one goes in the may or may not fix pile
[13:29:40] <cmn32480> just a statement of what I found.
[13:29:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:29:58] <cmn32480> that it goes to the SN email along w/ web message only effects staff
[13:30:22] <cmn32480> adn that is a very few submitters
[13:30:31] <cmn32480> and a LOT less liekly to get rejected
[13:31:19] <cmn32480> given that they generally follow the submission guidelines and most of the articles from staff are Meta site related stuff
[13:58:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 10 Things to Do Before You Lose Your Laptop - http://sylnt.us - keep-hold-of-it
[14:18:18] <cmn32480> buzzard - can you run the script again, please? (last time for me today, I believe)
[14:18:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> there ya go
[14:21:44] <cmn32480> thanks.
[14:21:59] <cmn32480> interesting. set for S/N email, w/ web setting for reejected.
[14:22:11] <cmn32480> no SN email received this time, but I got the web message.
[14:50:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ?
[14:50:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh
[14:50:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotcha
[14:50:42] <cmn32480> that is the expected behavior
[14:50:56] <cmn32480> I'm not sure exactly how I made it happen earlier
[14:54:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> you just got mad bugging skillz
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[15:04:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> yawn stretch
[15:04:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, bout an hour till the fish are supposed to start biting. need something to do. maybe breakfast.
[15:05:20] <cmn32480> I'm getting set to fire up the chainsaw
[15:05:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> equally fun
[15:06:21] <cmn32480> better than mowing!
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[15:38:47] <K_benzoate> So Germany has suspended train service coming from Austria because they can't handle any more refugees.
[15:45:22] <nick> move along, nothing to see here
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[21:56:28] <takyon> yooo
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[23:21:27] <takyon> time to drink
[23:23:11] <nick> whats on offer?
[23:23:43] <takyon> DC Brau Corruption IPA
[23:25:09] <nick> I had Al Murray's "Beautiful British Beer" yesterday...
[23:25:39] <nick> I didn't rate it very highly, but I also didn't choose it. That'll teach me for being late to the pub.
[23:26:07] <takyon> sounds bad just from the name
[23:26:42] <takyon> tourist trap tipple
[23:27:28] <takyon> http://www.inspiredtaste.net
[23:27:28] <Schwifty> ^ 03Baba Ganoush Recipe ? Amazing Roasted Eggplant Dip
[23:27:44] <nick> apparently it was launched as part of the campaign for the comedian's run for public office
[23:29:39] <nick> dont think ive ever had 'baba ganoush'
[23:30:30] <nick> reading about it makes me want to though
[23:30:45] <nick> how is the 'corruption' going down?
[23:35:17] <takyon> good, this is my third one
[23:35:19] <takyon> I'm feeling it
[23:35:43] <takyon> baba ganoush is basically hummus, except you replace chickpeas/garbanzo beans with oven roasted eggplant
[23:35:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sony Pictures Considered Buying BitTorrent Inc., Netflix, TiVo in 2006 - http://sylnt.us - missed-opportunities
[23:36:03] <takyon> oh it's my story
[23:45:19] <takyon> http://rhymezone.com
[23:45:20] <Schwifty> ^ 03RhymeZone rhyming dictionary and thesaurus
[23:55:20] <cmn32480> ~join #editorial
[23:55:25] <cmn32480> or not
[23:56:03] <cmn32480> Buzzard - you had to mention tractor mowing this morning.
[23:56:39] <cmn32480> I went and started pulling some of the semi-broken stuff down so I woudln't hit it while mowing.
[23:56:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> became a project did it?
[23:57:01] <cmn32480> i touched one and the fucker punched me in the face
[23:57:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> doh
[23:57:10] <cmn32480> bloody nose
[23:57:14] <cmn32480> can't breath
[23:57:19] <cmn32480> all your fault
[23:57:35] <cmn32480> obviously it wasn't my fault for not watching what I was doing
[23:58:22] <cmn32480> you can stop laughing now
[23:58:30] <cmn32480> but I'm pretty sure I don't ahve a concussion
[23:58:58] * TheMightyBuzzard facepalms
[23:59:24] * cmn32480 already got facepalmed by a 15 ft long piece of tree
[23:59:51] <cmn32480> after the bleeding stopped, my wife got a case of the giggles about it