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[23:28:37] <exec> 03Baghdad, Iraq - currently 88°F, widespread dust, wind NW at 0 mph, humidity 22% - Friday clear (80°F-112°F), Saturday sunny (80°F-113°F), Sunday sunny (81°F-114°F), Monday sunny (84°F-115°F)
[23:28:35] <Bytram> ~weather baghdad
[23:28:27] <Bytram> otoh...
[23:28:08] <Bytram> yes, their HIGH temp does not even get up to -20 F!
[23:27:28] <JamesNZ> Ouch.
[23:27:26] <exec> 03McMurdo, Antarctica - currently -32°F, partly cloudy, wind NE at 4 mph, humidity 78% - Saturday partly cloudy (-39°F--28°F), Sunday mostly sunny (-38°F--29°F), Monday partly cloudy (-34°F--21°F), Tuesday cloudy (-23°F--21°F)
[23:27:25] <Bytram> ~weather McMurdo
[23:27:20] <Bytram> still, I'd rather be where I am than here:
[23:27:04] <Bytram> and there was a 20mph wind on top of that.
[23:26:40] <Bytram> last winter, we got down to -6.5 C
[23:26:38] <JamesNZ> It feels bad :P
[23:26:17] <Bytram> that doesn't sound so bad.
[23:25:58] <JamesNZ> Minimum is usually around 5 C
[23:24:39] <Bytram> that does not look so comfortable... how cold does it get there?
[23:24:08] <exec> 03Wellington, New Zealand - currently 45°F, light rain showers, wind S at 21 mph, humidity 81% - Saturday cloudy (45°F-50°F), Sunday cloudy (45°F-57°F), Monday partly cloudy (46°F-52°F), Tuesday cloudy (51°F-57°F)
[23:24:06] <Bytram> ~weather JamesNZ
[23:23:48] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Touché
[23:23:05] <JamesNZ> Bytram: Cold, alas. You?
[23:22:33] <JamesNZ> In and out TheMightyBuzzard, in and out.
[23:22:19] <Bytram> how's things?
[23:22:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> let em eat cake
[23:22:12] <JamesNZ> Bytram: Good afternoon :)
[23:22:03] <Bytram> there's about 1.3 billion people who are gonna be a bit upset at you.
[23:21:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of breathing, i barely can. went and ate all of the chinese food
[23:20:53] <Bytram> JamesNZ: well, good afternoon!
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[23:16:21] <Bytram> well, the upper ones connect at the sternum, that is.
[23:15:56] <Bytram> IIRC ribs don't themselves flex so much as they are 'hinged' at the backbone, and are fastened together at the sternum, as well.
[23:09:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> titanium ribs? wouldn't those flex a lot less than your normal ordinary ribs and make breathing weird?
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[22:14:54] <Schwifty> ^ 03We Can Rebuild Him: Patient Receives 3D Printed Titanium Ribs and Sternum - Singularity HUB
[22:14:53] <takyon> http://singularityhub.com
[22:02:54] <Schwifty> ^ 03Kit For Google Cardboard 2 Now Free To Download
[22:02:53] <takyon> http://www.tomshardware.com
[21:46:53] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 92
[21:46:53] <Bytram> NCommander++
[21:46:52] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 91
[21:46:52] <Bytram> NCommander++
[21:46:50] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 90
[21:46:50] <Bytram> NCommander++
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[19:40:26] <SirFinkus> that's no fun
[19:40:07] * AndyTheAbsurd quits talking to himself for a bit
[19:39:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> neat, it's hotter than hell in hell.
[19:39:39] <exec> 03Hell, MI, USA - currently 62°F / 17°C, cloudy, wind N at 7 mph, humidity 79% - Friday partly cloudy (46°F-63°F / 8°C-17°C), Saturday partly cloudy (42°F-64°F / 6°C-18°C), Sunday mostly sunny (45°F-66°F / 7°C-19°C), Monday sunny (50°F-74°F / 10°C-23°C)
[19:39:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather hell, mi
[19:39:27] <exec> 03Washington, DC, USA - currently 85°F / 29°C, mostly sunny, wind NW at 8 mph, humidity 30% - Friday sunny (65°F-84°F / 18°C-29°C), Saturday scattered thunderstorms (62°F-79°F / 17°C-26°C), Sunday mostly sunny (55°F-74°F / 13°C-23°C), Monday sunny (57°F-77°F / 14°C-25°C)
[19:39:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather hell
[19:37:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> frak it's hot here.
[19:37:37] <exec> 03St Petersburg, FL 33701, USA - currently 89°F / 32°C, mostly cloudy, wind W at 10 mph, humidity 59% - Friday mostly cloudy (79°F-89°F / 26°C-32°C), Saturday thunderstorm (78°F-84°F / 26°C-29°C), Sunday scattered thunderstorms (76°F-84°F / 24°C-29°C), Monday cloudy (77°F-88°F / 25°C-31°C)
[19:37:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather 33701
[19:37:20] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[19:37:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather armpit
[19:37:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> didn't I set that to "armpit"? Or was that Camden?
[19:32:54] <exec> 03Princeton, NJ, USA - currently 77°F / 25°C, cloudy, wind NW at 9 mph, humidity 56% - Friday clear (61°F-80°F / 16°C-27°C), Saturday scattered thunderstorms (64°F-79°F / 18°C-26°C), Sunday scattered showers (53°F-75°F / 12°C-24°C), Monday sunny (55°F-75°F / 13°C-24°C)
[19:32:53] <paulej72> ~weather
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[18:29:21] <Bytram> sirfinkus: that sounds much better; thanks for clarifying!
[18:29:05] <Bytram> sirecote: that sounds much better; thanks for clarifying!
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[18:17:47] <SirFinkus> I had to drive out there so, $50 was fair
[18:17:26] <SirFinkus> I actually only charged them $50 (I'm not a monster) but they gave me a $50 tip
[18:17:21] <Bytram> afk biab
[18:16:57] * Bytram could not do that.
[18:16:25] <SirFinkus> they're easy marks
[18:16:12] <SirFinkus> find geriatrics to scam out of money
[18:15:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe i'll have a nap now just because i can
[18:15:52] <Bytram> you could mess with 'em and just put in the hex or decimal equivalent of that dotted-eight value!
[18:15:19] <Bytram> noice
[18:15:13] <SirFinkus> but I threw that one in for free
[18:15:01] <SirFinkus> oh, I also explained why the url looked different (most of the new browsers just have the site name without all the tagnuts tacked on after the tld)
[18:15:00] <Bytram> SirFinkus: point it at a slideshow, and make it change every minute. that works out to, umm, $6,000/hr? =)
[18:13:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think you just won #Soylent for the day
[18:12:58] * SirFinkus just made $100 for changing a desktop background
[18:07:15] <mrcoolbp> = )
[18:06:47] <exec> 05*** SN funding has changed from $1,172 to $1,248
[17:57:45] <exec> 03McMurdo, Antarctica - currently -32°F, mostly cloudy, wind NE at 5 mph, humidity 49% - Saturday partly cloudy (-37°F--28°F), Sunday mostly sunny (-39°F--26°F), Monday partly cloudy (-35°F--19°F), Tuesday cloudy (-25°F--23°F)
[17:57:43] <Bytram> ~weather mcmurdo
[17:57:39] <exec> 03Baghdad, Iraq - currently 97°F, clear with periodic clouds, wind NW at 6 mph, humidity 19% - Friday clear (80°F-112°F), Saturday sunny (80°F-113°F), Sunday sunny (81°F-114°F), Monday sunny (83°F-114°F)
[17:57:37] <Bytram> ~weather baghdad
[17:57:29] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 59°F, cloudy, wind N at 11 mph, humidity 82% - Friday showers (49°F-60°F), Saturday partly cloudy (48°F-72°F), Sunday cloudy (56°F-70°F), Monday showers (53°F-70°F)
[17:57:27] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[17:57:24] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 69°F, mostly cloudy, wind N at 19 mph, humidity 71% - Friday cloudy (54°F-70°F), Saturday mostly sunny (59°F-76°F), Sunday isolated thunderstorms (57°F-69°F), Monday scattered showers (57°F-74°F)
[17:57:21] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[17:57:19] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 69°F, cloudy, wind N at 12 mph, humidity 73% - Friday cloudy (59°F-70°F), Saturday mostly sunny (63°F-77°F), Sunday scattered thunderstorms (59°F-73°F), Monday mostly cloudy (59°F-71°F)
[17:57:17] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[17:57:12] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1644
[17:57:12] <Bytram> coffee++
[17:57:06] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Friday, 11 September 2015, 5:57 pm
[17:57:03] <Bytram> ~time x
[17:57:00] <Bytram> oh well.
[17:56:54] <exec> http://www.google.com
[17:56:50] <Bytram> ~nyse djia
[17:56:38] <Schwifty> ^ 03nasdaq - Google Finance Search
[17:56:37] <Bytram> http://www.google.com
[17:56:21] <exec> http://www.google.com
[17:56:19] <exec> 0.0000
[17:56:17] <Bytram> ~nyse dell
[17:56:01] <exec> http://www.google.com
[17:55:59] <exec> 29.33
[17:55:57] <Bytram> ~nyse intc
[17:55:45] <exec> http://www.google.com
[17:55:43] <exec> 113.28
[17:55:40] <Bytram> ~nyse aapl
[17:55:38] <exec> http://www.google.com
[17:55:36] <exec> 50.85
[17:55:33] <Bytram> ~nyse C
[17:55:32] <exec> http://www.google.com
[17:55:30] <exec> 58.01
[17:55:28] <Bytram> ~nyse M
[17:55:25] <exec> http://www.google.com
[17:55:23] <exec> 35.70
[17:55:20] <Bytram> ~nyse a
[16:46:31] <mrcoolbp> I'm pretty sure it doesn't really do anything
[16:46:09] <Schwifty> ^ 03[JavaScript] var $jn = jQuery.noConflict(); $jn(document).ready(function(){ $jn('div.togg - Pastebin.com
[16:46:04] <mrcoolbp> here's the code: http://pastebin.com
[16:44:40] * mrcoolbp hates telemarketers
[16:44:34] <mrcoolbp> anyone want to look a bit of JS code for me? I'm doing research on a telemarketer
[16:29:35] <SirFinkus> make some dosh
[16:29:33] <SirFinkus> well, I'm off, need to fix a windows 10 mess
[16:23:58] <n1> it's not for everyone, but it has made a big difference to me and my eyes
[16:23:41] <n1> yeah, i can see that happening
[16:22:13] <SirFinkus> the same thing happened to me after I watched mad max
[16:22:03] <SirFinkus> it makes everything that isn't your monitor look blue
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[16:21:54] <n1> take care, prospectacle
[16:21:53] <SirFinkus> cya
[16:21:50] <prospectacle> you too SirFinkus
[16:21:46] <prospectacle> ok I guess I'd better sleep. Have a pleasant evening and good luck with your master plan
[16:20:58] <n1> except now sometimes if i use someone elses PC, my eyes dont appreciate it
[16:20:39] <n1> for general productivity, reading etc i dont have a problem with it
[16:20:07] <n1> i have it set to on and maximum all the time on this pc, as i dont keep regular hours, just turn it off for doing anything colour sensitive
[16:19:10] <SirFinkus> I always end up turning it off
[16:18:25] <n1> truly shocked me how much of a difference it made to me, and i was like "psh, yeah right" when i was suggested it
[16:17:56] <n1> prospectacle, it's really worth a try
[16:17:48] <n1> i've been meaning to set up some kind of project management system up for me and the business partner to keep track of all the different moving parts
[16:17:12] <prospectacle> that f.lux sounds like a clever idea. I might give it a try
[16:16:42] <prospectacle> oh and d) develop general guidelines that don't require specific things to happen in order for them to apply.
[16:15:49] <n1> i have a similar app on my phone too
[16:15:37] <n1> i didn't believe it when i first read about it, but i noticed the difference instantly
[16:15:23] <prospectacle> not heard of it, interesting. I'm looking at it now
[16:15:21] <n1> less strain on the eyes
[16:15:09] <n1> cuts the blue light out from your monitor depending on the day/night cycle or how you set it, and when i started using it, made sleeping a lot easier
[16:14:58] <prospectacle> You can a) leave buffers, b) make backup plans, c) find time to regularly update plans as things do change.
[16:14:46] <n1> i dont know if you've looked into it, but if part of the problem is staying up too late on the PC, software like f.lux has been really damn useful to me
[16:14:37] <prospectacle> I mean I'm not expert, I don't want to pretend I am, but something doesn't have to work out as you predicted in order to make a good plan.
[16:14:09] <n1> mhm
[16:14:04] <n1> me planning things in advance is usually a way to ensure they wont happen, as other shit apparently always comes up.
[16:13:57] <prospectacle> well it's hard, planning is a whole other topic, that's my next project. But suffice it to say a plan doesn't have to be perfect or foolproof to be an improvement
[16:13:21] <n1> and all that shit will go out the window
[16:13:17] <prospectacle> by which I mean friday night
[16:13:17] <n1> i'd like to do similar, but if i plan things, i'll be woken up the next morning by a call
[16:13:06] <prospectacle> Yeah sleep is hard. Right now it's two in the morning. Which is ok cause it's a friday, but if I'm not careful I'll screw up my sleep pattern for next week
[16:13:00] <n1> it sounds like you're approaching things from the right way
[16:12:40] <prospectacle> intresting
[16:12:28] <n1> and it's about the only time i keep normal hours
[16:12:22] <n1> getting a regular sleep cycle can make a big difference, i only get one when im working away. i work on music festivals, for security and unrelated things.
[16:12:18] <prospectacle> I also want to change my conditions, career, fortunes, etc but I figure if I can manipulate my level/quality of consciousness in the ways described then I'll not only do better at making whatever changes I want, but I'll enjoy the journey more
[16:11:38] <n1> it's weird
[16:11:36] <n1> i know when im getting dehydrated, i stop wanting to drink...
[16:11:15] <prospectacle> Dehydration makes you tired, so maybe you think you need another coffee, which dehydrates you
[16:10:57] <prospectacle> Yeah dehydration is a bit of a cycle, especially when you also like coffee.
[16:10:29] <prospectacle> The following things could be increased to that same end: well organised periods of concentration and rest, short naps, invigorating levels of exercise (as opposed to tiring levels), and more deliberate direction of attention
[16:10:25] <n1> i do get strange looks though "would you like tea or coffee?" ... "water would be great, thanks."
[16:10:06] <n1> took me living in tropical climates to discover water, now i'm addicted to the stuff.
[16:09:32] <n1> drink more water is probably the easiest thing to do to help with any of those
[16:08:53] <n1> i know all of those things very well
[16:08:20] <prospectacle> For example the following things could be reduced in a way that would make life more enjoyable, and also more productive/useful in the long run: sleep deprivation, interruption and over-dividion of attention, excess caffeine leading to dehydration, muscle soreness and lethargy from too much sitting, and procrastination
[16:07:40] <n1> we should be trying to improve our situations, not just seeing how much shit we can tolerate in the current one
[16:07:06] <n1> state of mind makes all the difference
[16:06:32] <prospectacle> yeah well my conditions aren't that bad, I can stand them. I'm trying to change my state of mind to get more out of what I've already got
[16:06:06] <n1> what are you trying to achieve?
[16:06:00] <n1> you said above you're focusing on different side of the equation?
[16:05:47] <prospectacle> it's important to have a plan
[16:05:32] <n1> which then will enable me to go find that hammock on a beach
[16:05:21] <prospectacle> that makes sense
[16:05:08] <n1> but we're changing the focus onto more mobile/web/PnP type stuff
[16:05:05] <prospectacle> you're on the hammock giving them directions, wearing your VR headset to see and hear what they do
[16:04:42] <prospectacle> lol
[16:04:40] <prospectacle> What if they have one of those tiny bluetooth earpieces and a hidden camera in their glasses
[16:04:16] <n1> yeah, and with how I do it, i can't hire anyone else to do the real work for me
[16:03:58] <prospectacle> Ah I see, not something you can do remotely most of the time
[16:03:33] <n1> mostly physical and electronic security systems
[16:02:59] <prospectacle> What kind of work do you do?
[16:02:44] <n1> operating a business without appropriate licence, selling uncertified food products, operating a business on public property, lack of public liability insurance
[16:02:13] <prospectacle> on what charge?
[16:01:57] <n1> i'd do that here, if they wouldn't arrest me for it.
[16:01:25] <prospectacle> If you work for yourself can you work outside. Maybe under a shade cloth, in a hammock, with a hawaiian shirt on and one of those coconut shell drinks?
[16:01:03] <n1> even when it's nice weather, it's still so ugly mostly
[16:00:52] <n1> but it's still, all the buildings, the roads
[16:00:40] <n1> this summer has been quite nice
[16:00:28] <prospectacle> must be hard having grey weather all the time
[16:00:15] <prospectacle> that sounds pretty nice
[15:59:31] <n1> a small farm near some open water and the time to play guitar, would be the dream.
[15:58:13] <n1> but when i'm here, it's just grey, concrete, depressed people
[15:58:01] <n1> i like being outside, i want to spend more time outside
[15:57:39] <n1> being self-sufficient would be a good start
[15:56:22] <prospectacle> what kind of life are you seeking, I mean what's a typical day in n1 utopia?
[15:56:07] <n1> so time to move on
[15:56:04] <prospectacle> Dont' know how sure fire those things are though
[15:56:04] <n1> this country does not offer the type of life i am seeking, and i'm not a person who can argue against centuries of cultural inertia
[15:55:54] <prospectacle> Maybe I'll buy a lottery ticket, seems the easiest way
[15:55:21] <prospectacle> At the moment I'm focusing on a different side of the equation, but I also would love to change locations and conditions to not feel like I was just working all the time.
[15:55:18] <n1> the world is changing, we would be stupid to ignore it
[15:55:01] <n1> i try to work smart, it's only me and my business partner doing it for now, although we do have a couple people who we can get in when necessary.
[15:54:14] <prospectacle> I applaud your attempts to make a serious life change. I understand the urge.
[15:53:01] <n1> i'm the business owning liberal socialist, if we're applying labels, and if there is such a thing
[15:52:59] <prospectacle> ah so your boss is a real hard arse
[15:52:36] <n1> i've been self-employed for the last 6 years or so
[15:52:11] <prospectacle> Being an owner/worker, you'd probably get respect, and good conditions
[15:52:08] <n1> and a couple of unskilled workers in the UK somewhere
[15:52:01] <prospectacle> Looks like there are some technology-based workers-cooperatives in the UK. That might be a nice environment to work in.
[15:51:56] <n1> means i have to be in the area right now, but the plan will be to phase that out and grow another side of my business which i'll pretty much just need a laptop for
[15:51:14] <n1> im in the process of changing my work situation to stop me being tied to London, currently working on new build projects and other physical systems
[15:50:18] <n1> somewhere between the two
[15:49:45] <prospectacle> I'd love to retire from full time work, but I want electricity and food and internet. Maybe a few other things
[15:49:12] <prospectacle> Are you planning to go somewhere that's cheaper to live (compared to work hours required), or do you want to go off the grid, or what?
[15:48:02] <prospectacle> Sounds like a worthy ambition
[15:47:26] <n1> i'm done with it all, i want out of consumer culture and the associated cost of living with lack of quality of life
[15:47:01] <n1> no one has a reason to smile
[15:46:55] <n1> but after growing up in London, consumerist central, where everything costs too much, work is 24/7 and no one smiles
[15:46:52] <prospectacle> and they fixed that pothole
[15:46:42] <prospectacle> it's even better now, a new restaurant opened up around the corner
[15:46:08] <n1> prospectacle, part of my time out of the UK was in Australia, and I had a lot of fun.
[15:46:07] <SirFinkus> why wouldn't there be?
[15:45:52] <SirFinkus> of course there's pony fanart of it
[15:45:47] <SirFinkus> http://pre09.deviantart.net
[15:45:46] <n1> things change, i've learned a lot and see things differently now
[15:45:46] <SirFinkus> oh god
[15:45:36] <n1> thats the problem i have SirFinkus, i started working in the industry over 10 years ago now, and well...
[15:45:07] <SirFinkus> oh shit, you're one of them
[15:44:58] <prospectacle> Come to australia, we've got slightly newer stuff
[15:44:55] <n1> SirFinkus, i have been known to install those watchful eyes.
[15:44:28] <n1> things have taken longer than i'd have liked so far.
[15:44:12] <n1> i left a few years ago but came back for work, with the whole point of not staying around.
[15:44:09] <SirFinkus> don't you like being secure beneath watchful eyes?
[15:43:50] <prospectacle> Lol
[15:43:47] <n1> trying to escape
[15:43:42] <prospectacle> Fun
[15:43:30] <n1> London
[15:41:45] <prospectacle> What part of UK you hail from?
[15:40:17] <prospectacle> Yes, it's a shrewd move. He's a criminal genius
[15:39:26] <n1> murdoch isn't making many powerful enemies whilst following the 'big business rules the day' line, it's been the most important line going since 1970
[15:38:43] <n1> he got his seat at the table, was rewarded by his associated in the UK and US, and is now top of his empire.
[15:38:15] <n1> murdoch was an enemy to one type of establishment for another version of it
[15:38:10] <prospectacle> true, a giant conspiracy could unseat him
[15:37:43] <n1> a microphone that could run out of batteries if the rest of the corporate world pulled their advertising, governments pulled their support and revolving door
[15:36:49] <n1> maybe if someone has their back turned, then you can stab them and take their slice, but the most important part is not making the club any bigger
[15:36:26] <prospectacle> yes, but he's got a louder microphone
[15:36:26] <n1> the point of the club is for it not to get any bigger
[15:36:14] <n1> he's just part of that club
[15:36:11] <n1> but then people at that level all have dirt on each other
[15:36:01] <n1> there's that of course
[15:35:45] <prospectacle> and a loud microphone
[15:35:38] <prospectacle> plenty of people with wealth and influence are terrified of him because he has dirt on them
[15:35:21] <n1> or he wouldn't be allowed to continue like he does
[15:35:13] <n1> plenty of people of wealth and influence think he's doing great work
[15:35:00] <n1> well, depends what kind of good you want
[15:34:46] <prospectacle> pity he couldn't use his powers for good
[15:34:41] <prospectacle> that man is a criminal genius
[15:34:22] <prospectacle> well I apologise for allowing rupert murdoch out of the country to wreak havoc
[15:34:14] <n1> because we've got all that great history.
[15:34:05] <n1> which is actually an argument a grandparent of mine used, "international law shoulnd't apply to us, we're above it"
[15:33:50] <n1> because we're better than that
[15:33:43] <n1> us*
[15:33:39] <prospectacle> what with the whole scottish thing
[15:33:39] <n1> freedom of speech and the press are concepts we should applaud, but they shouldn't apply to use
[15:33:35] <prospectacle> interesting stuff going on in uk politically
[15:32:08] <n1> we're all up in this country for 'scapping human rights'
[15:31:56] <n1> personally, i care a lot, but being from the UK, where it's presented that the american ideals are just that, ideals that no one seriously believes in
[15:31:21] <n1> i meant from the perspective of the lawmakers/politicians/lawyers etc
[15:30:59] <n1> heh
[15:30:49] <prospectacle> it's not my country, why should I worry about it
[15:30:33] <prospectacle> ok sounds like a plan
[15:30:01] <n1> just ignore it, difficult times we're in
[15:29:56] <n1> dont even pretend to be understanding or reading it differently
[15:29:56] <prospectacle> i mean it's some good
[15:29:52] <prospectacle> true, a constitution is not much good when the electoral system is broken
[15:29:34] <n1> but very few in high levels of government dont mind just ignoring the letter and spirit entirely
[15:29:24] <n1> look at now, the constitution is used as a football/political tool
[15:29:15] <prospectacle> Yes I think the first measure of any constitution should be "every 100 years this document will be recreated from scratch, with each measure new or old, requiring a majority of votes in a majority of states"
[15:29:08] <n1> the lawyers and career politicians that have to take a 'sober look at the reality of this legislation and it's practical application in society beyond being a guiding principal'
[15:28:36] <n1> and even if you did get the majority behind it, the people who implement it might take a whole different approach to what you'd expect
[15:28:20] <n1> prospectacle, sadly that is my point
[15:27:50] <n1> which theyve spent what, 500 years crafting this complex web of bullshit?
[15:27:49] <prospectacle> I guess the problem is it's easy to write a "perfect" constitution, if you don't need to worry about getting mass, and majority support for ratifying it
[15:27:40] <n1> to legislate themselves out of a job
[15:27:31] <n1> you'd have to convince the lawyers and politicians of the world
[15:26:48] <n1> i agree, i want to support what you're saying
[15:26:21] <prospectacle> n1, right, but that then allows for psychology to evolve its notion of insanity, while the rule would still apply.
[15:25:54] <n1> good thing we have men of character to decide who that criminal underclass is
[15:25:43] <n1> the criminal underclass should obviously be exempted
[15:25:23] <n1> being gay, being a communist
[15:25:14] <n1> prospectacle, problem is what classed as 'certifiable insanity' in those days
[15:24:51] <n1> or their own personal interests, but as their so important, it's a direct reflection on their country
[15:24:37] <n1> who must go above and beyond to do whats right for their country
[15:24:24] <n1> but we have had hundreds of years of this shit, if not even more, the system is supposed to be abused by 'men of character'
[15:24:21] <prospectacle> n1 the second amendment? I might specify if certain things made a person unfit for exercising that right (whether certified insanity - as they would have called - certain criminal histories, age, etc), whether any kind of training or licencing could or should be required, whether there were any limits to the type of arms a private citizen may bear
[15:23:44] <n1> i completely agree with your sentiment
[15:22:33] <prospectacle> n1, right, so they're blown around by the wind, which is the opposite of what a constitutional clause is meant for.
[15:22:09] <n1> hindsight*
[15:22:07] <n1> given the social context of the time, with no benefit of hindsigjht
[15:21:51] <n1> if you were writing ther consitution, how would you have made the 2nd amendmend clearer?
[15:21:35] <prospectacle> but if tbey bad attempted to be as vague and divisive as possible in the wording, they couldn't have done a better job
[15:21:09] <prospectacle> You can't stop all misunderstandings, ambiguities, or loopholes, but it seriously looks like there was no attempt made. I know that's not true, the problem was caused by the wording being controversial
[15:21:07] <n1> but we essentially already have that with the thousands of laws on the books, covering every possible variation, which is then selectively prosecuted depending on political climate at the time
[15:20:45] <n1> i do get your intention
[15:19:55] <prospectacle> yes exactly. If some exceptions could be explicitly ruled out and others specifically defined, then it would be harder to wilfully ignore any legitimate doubts about how it's being interpreted.
[15:19:54] <n1> sociopaths dont care about the spirit of the law
[15:19:09] <n1> proves it's all above board and democratic
[15:19:01] <n1> a political appointee decided on which evidence could be used too.
[15:18:34] <n1> due process? we went through 3 secret courts.
[15:18:27] <n1> bearing arms, everyone should have nukes.
[15:18:14] <n1> the press is free to print what they like, but may also suffer severe consequences of printing things that damamage national security or the national interest
[15:17:54] <prospectacle> +n1, that's right, so you need more words to reduce and constrain the error margin
[15:17:47] <n1> which allows the whole thing to be reinterpreted
[15:17:39] <prospectacle> even a single right, like due process, bearing arms, freedom of press, etc. Plenty of questions raised. Assuming people will "get it" is naive to say the least
[15:17:31] <n1> meanings of words change over time
[15:17:00] <prospectacle> Depends on the words you use. More than 20 words is a necessary, but not sufficient condition, to clearly define the scope and precise meaning of something so important and open to interpretation as a protected human right
[15:16:30] <n1> so it's not relevant in the modern world we live in with a diverse range of ever increasing threats by people who dont play by any rule book
[15:16:14] <n1> but when writing those 10 or 20 words, no one could have imagined what happened now, 200,100,50,25 years later
[15:16:07] <SirFinkus> and it's irrelevant when your legislators ignore it
[15:15:30] <SirFinkus> the more words you use, the more loopholes you have
[15:15:19] <n1> usually they're more clever than that, 'security concerns' could send people into a panic
[15:15:19] <SirFinkus> naw, you're going about it all wrong prospectacle
[15:15:01] <prospectacle> If I were writing a constitution, I would use more than 10 or 20 words when defining a right or protection of a right. It would save a lot of arguments later on
[15:14:08] <SirFinkus> bomb threat?
[15:14:06] <SirFinkus> well, they're saying "security concerns"
[15:13:55] <SirFinkus> sorry, no fuel dump, misread
[15:13:49] <n1> when we hear nothing more of it, was really terrorists
[15:13:13] <SirFinkus> probably nothing
[15:12:59] <SirFinkus> not a ton of info yet
[15:12:55] <Schwifty> ^ 03#UA902 FRA-SFO returned to FRA, no fuel dump, parked on cargo Apron for evac..... - FlyerTalk Forums ( http://www.flyertalk.com )
[15:12:54] <SirFinkus> http://www.flyertalk.com
[15:12:44] <SirFinkus> yeah
[15:12:06] <prospectacle> did it land ok?
[15:12:04] <n1> trying to find that
[15:12:04] <prospectacle> wow
[15:10:36] <SirFinkus> allegedly dumped fuel and made a hard landing
[15:10:28] <n1> janrinok, nothing exciting today, i'm going out for dinner so just having a quick premade curry
[15:10:22] <SirFinkus> 747 just got diverted in frankfurt due to "security concerns"
[15:10:04] <SirFinkus> shit might be going down
[15:08:54] <n1> think i'd still prefer the Aesop Rock song of the same name.
[15:08:38] <n1> havn't seen the film, heard a lot about it
[15:08:12] <n1> fuck yeah
[15:08:09] <n1> 'merica
[15:08:08] <prospectacle> interesting though
[15:04:01] <prospectacle> this zero dark thirty is hard to watch
[15:00:55] <janrinok> I love food - what are _we_ having?
[15:00:12] <n1> brb, foodings cooking
[14:59:57] <n1> 'looks awesome' was better feedback than i was expecting
[14:59:51] <janrinok> that's a bonus, and not a total waste of time then
[14:59:37] <n1> yeah, i think it's convinced them for the next projects
[14:59:21] <janrinok> but the video experience might still lead to contract(s) in the future?
[14:59:01] <n1> same area, just a few miles down the road
[14:58:48] <n1> no, they think it's 'great' and 'awesome' , but they took too long to get around to it, and now dont think it's worth it on this project
[14:58:33] <janrinok> moving to where?
[14:58:24] <n1> working at home this weekend, in the process of moving, so things are even more all over the place than usual
[14:58:03] <janrinok> they don't like it?
[14:57:54] <n1> had my time wasted on the video thing this week :|
[14:57:51] <janrinok> are you working this w/e?
[14:57:40] <n1> never is sadly lol
[14:57:32] <janrinok> n1: your working week is nearly over?
[14:56:51] <janrinok> ... or terrorism
[14:56:41] <n1> i can see that being equated to vandalism
[14:56:17] <n1> you wrote whatever in the dirt, we had to pay someone else to come along to remove that from the dirt
[14:56:04] <prospectacle> if there were a field of rubbing and you only picked up some of it, leaving a word in the grass, are you vandalising the field
[14:55:55] <janrinok> bound to be - some drone in an office somewhere has to justify his existence
[14:55:53] <n1> but i can just see the same logic being used
[14:55:47] <n1> oh i know
[14:55:41] <prospectacle> well it's not a repair, it's like picking up rubbish
[14:55:30] <prospectacle> I expect there's some precedent
[14:55:28] <n1> try and repair public property yourself, see how pleased they are
[14:55:11] <janrinok> they should keep the footpath clean then
[14:55:08] <prospectacle> do they have to fix it?
[14:54:51] <n1> it's still graffiti/vandalism
[14:54:46] <n1> i'd say that depends, they could argue that because someone has to fix it
[14:54:46] <janrinok> can't see what law that would be breaking - but someone is sure to think of some reason why you can't...
[14:54:23] <prospectacle> I reckon it's a graffitti loophole
[14:54:04] <prospectacle> I wonder if that's breaking any laws, writing stuff by cleaning only some parts of the footpath
[14:54:02] <janrinok> prospectacle: :)
[14:53:48] <prospectacle> Maybe I could clean-stencil the footpath with the url
[14:53:40] <janrinok> how's things?
[14:53:34] <n1> hey janrinok
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[14:39:36] <prospectacle> Yeah I know what you mean
[14:37:37] <janrinok> I'm not sure 1. where we would do that, and 2. where could we advertise for free?
[14:37:24] <prospectacle> But that's problematic too
[14:37:13] <prospectacle> I mean just to let people know it exists
[14:36:17] <janrinok> prospectacle: do you mean does the site use advertising to raise money, or do we advertise the site itself?
[14:35:01] <prospectacle> hmm. I wouldn't encourage advertising, and yet, how does one find out about something
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[14:31:49] <janrinok> prospectacle: I think that you have found your answer .... :)
[14:30:09] <Bender> JSONBOT has the following commands: action, admin-boot, admin-bootbackend, admin-bootthreaded, admin-callbacks, admin-commands, admin-debugoff, admin-debugon, admin-exceptions, admin-floodcontrol, admin-loadall, admin-makebot, admin-mc, admin-reloadconfig, admin-save, admin-setstatus, admin-stop, admin-upgrade, admin-userhostscache, apro, beledig, bier, bite, broadcast, - 7 more
[14:30:04] <Bender> see !list for loaded plugins and "!help plugin" for help on the plugin.
[14:30:02] <prospectacle> !commands
[14:30:00] <Bender> documentation for jsonbot can be found at http://jsonbot.org
[14:30:00] <prospectacle> !help
[14:29:59] <prospectacle> !whatothercommandsarethere
[14:22:33] <prospectacle> Does the site advertise in any way?
[14:21:20] <janrinok> we climbed steadily until the early 5000's, and then the join rate has slowed significantly. I'm not sure whether we are getting new members as fast as others simply fade away. We can't tell easily how many are active members - they may still read the site as ACs and we wouldn't know.
[14:19:28] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5863, owned by Westfall
[14:19:27] <janrinok> !uid
[14:19:20] <prospectacle> How many members now?
[14:19:13] <prospectacle> It's not impossible
[14:19:11] <prospectacle> I hope we can be much bigger than we are now but quite different from other sites
[14:12:35] <janrinok> I would like our community to be of a similar size to /.'s, but I don't feel that they are something that we should strive to emulate anymore. However, maybe the 2 things are linked and I'm talking crap again.
[14:11:01] <prospectacle> I can't say I'm a big fan of slashdot these days, but I do admire the low-work high-return website model. It would be great to be able to make one
[14:08:23] <janrinok> ok, I see what you mean
[14:08:11] <prospectacle> I mean it was broke, but not enough to stop people coming to it in large numbers
[14:07:42] <janrinok> Ah, don't take my word on anything technical - that's why I'm an editor!
[14:07:25] <prospectacle> If it ain't broke...
[14:07:22] <prospectacle> They may well have done so, but I remember back in the old days, when they were run by the founders, they still didn't keep up to date with standards
[14:07:00] <Ryushin> If you say so. I've deployed ipv6 quite a bit and for the most part, it's just going to be creating some dns records and adding ipv6 to their server configs. But alas, it is a bit of a oxymoron.
[14:05:50] <janrinok> prospectacle: I'm not so sure - it looks to me as though slashdot have lost their tech expertise and are nothing more than editors. I dread to think what would happen if the likes of myself were left in control of SN! But, to be honest, I don't visit that site much nowadays so perhaps my limited exposure gives me a skewed perspective.
[14:02:52] <prospectacle> Updating the code or infrastructure would just be work
[14:02:41] <prospectacle> pretty smart from a business point of view
[14:02:25] <prospectacle> Ryushin, well they're user submitted articles. The site is designed in many ways, to require as little work as possible to maintain
[14:00:31] <janrinok> probably best we let sleeping dogs lie for the time being
[14:00:09] <janrinok> Ryushin: I wonder if we should make at submission about it? j/k
[13:57:24] <Ryushin> Still. They have a lot of articles about the slow adoption of ipv6 and yet, they do not have it enbled. Just one of those, "say what" kind of things.
[13:56:00] <prospectacle> Yes that kind of thing used to surprise me. Now I think they're a tech themed site, but this doesn't mean they need to be technically advanced or even up to date. They just need readers
[13:53:41] <Schwifty> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[13:53:35] <Ryushin> Just trying to figure out why slashdot of all things does not have ipv6 set up. Found an old link from 2003 that says to use sixxs link: http://slashdot.org.sixxs.org
[13:52:43] <SirFinkus> stupid fast, and deleted on reboot
[13:52:43] <Ryushin> 's/there/this/g'
[13:52:42] <prospectacle> Ryushin of course, where else would you do it?
[13:52:23] <prospectacle> SirFinkus, what are the benefits?
[13:52:12] <Ryushin> So following the links for chatting, is there where we talk about Slashdot topics?
[13:51:08] * SirFinkus is considering using mounting one on his browsers download folder
[13:49:43] <SirFinkus> ramdisks are neat
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[13:41:23] <prospectacle> true, makes it easy to browse options
[13:39:04] <janrinok> np, we have the basic thing working and it can generate over 300 stories per day during the week. Of that number, only perhaps 10% are of interest to us but that is still a good number of stories to have in our back pocket in case we need them.
[13:37:49] <prospectacle> looks like most places don't offer "most popular" as an rss feed, you'd have to read the html directly. Pity
[13:33:49] <janrinok> oh there are over a dozen rss feeds being scanned. PhysOrg, TheRegister, BBC, ScienceWorld etc
[13:32:50] <prospectacle> What are some of the source sites?
[13:28:57] <prospectacle> Maybe it could somehow to take into account the most read/shared from various sites. I don't know if they offer that as RSS or if you'd have to scrape the HTML directly, but a lot of sites have that feature. Might sort some wheat out from the chaff
[13:28:42] <janrinok> prospectacle: some parts of Bristol are best avoided at night or if you are on your own, but it is a very nice place in general.
[13:27:51] <janrinok> it makes our job a little easier but still leaves us with an editorial task to prepare it for release. The bot is still in development.
[13:26:48] <janrinok> My bot also carries out html formatting to meet the requirements of this site etc.
[13:26:41] <prospectacle> Makes sense.
[13:26:17] <janrinok> the site already has a bot scanning the rss feeds and they are available on #rss-bot here. All my bot does is go through those feeds, strip out the rubbish, advertising and piccies, and formats the story proper so that we can have a quick look at it and decide if it is worth processing.
[13:26:11] <prospectacle> I really liked bristol. Full of interesting twists and turns. Had never been before. Quite a walkable city, not too far from one end to the next but lots in between
[13:24:15] <prospectacle> That's cool so do you have a list of various news rss feeds and you format them and submit them so editors can choose/modify?
[13:23:33] <janrinok> No bar visits this time, I had a lot to see and do and not much 'social' time
[13:22:57] <janrinok> Storybot? It scans the rss feeds and scrapes the story out of the html then submits it for the eds to work on further. We get too few submissions at times and we are left looking for stories. Storybot provides us with some raw material - although it can't tell good stories from bad!
[13:22:38] <prospectacle> oh yeah, i went to bristol last time. Did you go to the famous bars?
[13:21:25] <janrinok> I was in Plymouth, Bristol, Manchester, Doncaster (for my daughter's wedding) and then back to Bristol.
[13:20:50] <prospectacle> what's it do?
[13:20:38] <janrinok> I'm working on my storybot, which is coming along nicely. 'Arthur T Knackerbracket' is its submitter monika.
[13:20:37] <prospectacle> Nice. I like the UK. Going there again next year. What towns did you visit?
[13:19:47] <janrinok> I've been away for a few weeks in the UK, started back in my editor's seat at the beginning of this week. Glad to be back home but had a good time in the UK.
[13:18:47] <prospectacle> anyway what have you been up to?
[13:18:39] <prospectacle> I like breach better but it's an fps already
[13:18:17] <prospectacle> maybe "pierce" that doesn't seem to be taken
[13:16:03] <janrinok> that sounds like a good idea, I hadn't thought of looking there
[13:15:43] <prospectacle> It won't be hard to make a two player version. The hard part will be how to make an AI to play against. But I guess I can read some chess ai guides to start with
[13:15:15] <prospectacle> cool
[13:15:10] <prospectacle> lol
[13:14:27] <janrinok> I'm not planning on dying anytime soon, unless you are a v e r y slow programmer
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[13:14:00] <janrinok> the name will probably be harder to find than the game will be to write!
[13:13:56] <prospectacle> thanks janrinok, you can be the first (if you're around when I finish it)
[13:13:38] <prospectacle> damn looks like there's a shooting game called that.
[13:13:21] <janrinok> np, hope to play you at it sometime :)
[13:13:08] <prospectacle> I'm think of "breach" for the name. What do you think?
[13:12:55] <prospectacle> thanks
[13:12:50] <prospectacle> cool, maybe I'll make it and if it turns out it does exist it will at least have been a fun project
[13:12:44] <janrinok> sounds like a new game to me, or at least I've not seen anything similar
[13:12:24] <prospectacle> janrinok, yeah, one blankn row sits between the player and their pieces to start with
[13:12:10] <janrinok> not seen it before
[13:11:58] <prospectacle> First person to get one of their pieces to the other player's back line wins
[13:11:45] <prospectacle> It's quite simple really: each turn you can move one piece one square in one direction (including diagonal), and if you land on someone else's piece you kill that piece.
[13:11:44] <janrinok> like the second row of draughts...?
[13:11:14] <janrinok> hi prospectacle
[13:11:14] <prospectacle> Basically you take a checker-board and eight identical pieces per player. The player lines their pieces up on the second row from them.
[13:10:32] <prospectacle> I'm thinking of making a game but before I do I want to make sure it doesn't exist already.
[13:09:31] <prospectacle> hello
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[13:05:41] <janrinok> hi guys
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[11:35:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's the letters 'pen' in it for certain
[11:35:39] <crutchy> it looks a bit like yoghurt actually :/
[11:35:37] <chromas> yellow-on-white is a bit hard to read
[11:35:24] <chromas> not like writing in the snow…
[11:35:17] <chromas> uh, I hope that's with a pen or something
[11:34:56] <crutchy> :D
[11:34:48] * TheMightyBuzzard writes on chromas's foot
[11:34:33] * chromas awaits the footnote
[11:34:08] <crutchy> that way you don't get hurt by the c*unt at the other end?
[11:32:48] <chromas> they're just like proxies; you should be behind at least seven
[11:29:46] <Bender> karma - latex: 32
[11:29:46] <crutchy> latex-- # cos nobody likes fucking a rubber
[11:16:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, whew, looks like we don't use that particular bit of trouble
[11:14:00] <Bender> karma - fuckberries: 1
[11:14:00] <crutchy> fuckberries++
[11:11:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah fuckberries. just noticed the page i had open from last night telling me i gotta rewrite someone else's perl module or we're not gonna get any more moneys coming in to the site.
[11:08:39] <Bender> karma - amphetamines: 4
[11:08:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> amphetamines++
[11:01:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[10:58:34] <Bender> karma - latex: 33
[10:58:34] <JamesNZ> latex++
[10:58:33] <Bender> karma - latex: 32
[10:58:33] <JamesNZ> latex++
[10:58:28] * JamesNZ Knuthwhacks TheMightyBuzzard
[10:56:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> yuppers
[10:53:52] <chromas> -Scc time?
[10:51:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg. my old packages cache runneth over. 16GB of ancient versions of crap.
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[10:48:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i can't go back and fix your fuckups, it is not a document i wish to receive.
[10:45:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ps, pdf, TeX, take yer pick
[10:45:11] <crutchy> which one in particular?
[10:43:27] <Bender> karma - write_only_document_formats: -1
[10:43:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> write_only_document_formats--
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[10:41:24] <Bender> karma - tikz: 4
[10:41:24] <JamesNZ> tikz++
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[10:41:19] <JamesNZ> tikz++
[10:41:17] <Bender> karma - latex: 31
[10:41:17] <JamesNZ> latex++
[10:40:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> no doubt. after a year MIA we should prolly just take him off the staff list.
[10:39:35] <crutchy> xlefay is gunna have a heck of a scrollback download if he ever visits again
[10:32:21] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: nice lol
[10:31:08] <Schwifty> ^ 03So sorry to hear about your mom's skydiving accident... - Imgur
[10:31:07] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: https://imgur.com
[10:26:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> just woke up, meds come with cup two
[10:26:15] <crutchy> actually i read some of the comments and they were civilized. so disappointing :p
[10:26:13] <Gravis> you should take it
[10:26:08] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: did you forget to take your medication?
[10:25:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, i haven't had my coffee yet so if you wanna douche it up do it in the comments where i can get to it later or it's just gonna get ignored.
[10:19:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1643
[10:19:21] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:18:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1642
[10:18:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:05:17] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: Told you I found her.
[10:04:30] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Ermagersh.
[10:02:29] <crutchy> yeah as much as Gravis whines about AC's his life would lose all meaning without them
[10:01:10] <chromas> you're reading the ACs? *tsk tsk*
[10:00:59] * chromas gasps
[10:00:07] <crutchy> meh
[09:59:12] <Schwifty> ^ 03SN article: Want More Free Cache? 04(4 comments)
[09:59:11] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: ha! even the anons realize you're full of it. https://soylentnews.org
[09:40:32] * Subsentient giggles like a drunk chipmunk at crutchy
[09:40:08] <crutchy> well, in this case nsfk (not safe for kiddywinks)
[09:39:40] <crutchy> luckily my internet is a bit slow tonight and the picture only half loaded before i saw what it was going to be
[09:39:03] <crutchy> Schwifty needs a nsfw flag
[09:38:12] <Schwifty> ^ 03That's a big piggy - Meme on Imgur
[09:38:11] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: http://imgur.com
[09:33:47] * JamesNZ moans
[09:22:49] * SirFinkus groans
[09:20:12] <chromas> see? the broken windows fallacy works out
[09:17:04] <Bender> karma - windows: -17
[09:17:04] <crutchy> windows++
[09:16:57] <crutchy> see windows makes the world go round
[09:16:26] <JamesNZ> Hah.
[09:16:11] <SirFinkus> don't, I'm charging out the ass for it
[09:15:42] <JamesNZ> SirFinkus: I weep for you :P
[09:14:59] <SirFinkus> I get to fix a botched win10 upgrade today
[09:14:53] <Bender> karma - fedora: 55
[09:14:53] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[09:14:52] <Bender> karma - fedora: 54
[09:14:52] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[09:14:33] <JamesNZ> SirFinkus: I found an unbearably slow/unworkable Win 8.1 system on a 2 year old lappie.
[09:13:30] <SirFinkus> you find the $windows folder JamesNZ?
[09:13:12] <Bender> karma - windows: -18
[09:13:12] <JamesNZ> windows--
[09:13:11] <Bender> karma - windows: -17
[09:13:11] <JamesNZ> windows--
[09:13:08] <Bender> karma - windows: -16
[09:13:08] <JamesNZ> windows--
[08:55:37] <SirFinkus> I actually like the copy run start bit
[08:55:13] <SirFinkus> not blaming the victim, cisco should have put it somewhere else
[08:54:35] <chromas> "that button shouldn't've been there"
[08:54:07] <chromas> now you're just Blaming the Victim
[08:54:07] <SirFinkus> I imagine it'd re remedied by remembering to copy run start
[08:53:22] <SirFinkus> it looks like a stupid design anyway, I'd put that button as far away from the plugs as possible
[08:51:24] <Gravis> SirFinkus: this protector design falls in the former category
[08:50:46] <Gravis> SirFinkus: some protectors are cheap-ass pieces of shit while others are actually made out of the proper material and work well
[08:47:43] <SirFinkus> they seem to harden up after a while and make it very difficult to unplug the
[08:47:24] <SirFinkus> I've always hated those stupid protectors anyway
[08:44:35] <Gravis> SirFinkus: yeah, they really didnt' think that design though.
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[06:34:51] <Schwifty> ^ 03This hilarious Cisco fail is a network engineer's worst nightmare
[06:34:50] <SirFinkus> http://thenextweb.com
[06:26:03] <Schwifty> ^ 03Cool Coffee Table - Imgur
[06:26:03] <arti> http://imgur.com
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[04:03:46] <Ethanol-fueled> \ mode #Soylent +b Ethanol-fueled!drunkenshithead.net
[04:03:32] <cmn32480> I am not certain what having op actually gets you, but I bet I can find some google links that will tell me
[04:02:54] <cmn32480> possibly, but I think that anybody with voice has the ability to use the (.) commands for op, deop, kick, kickban, etc
[04:02:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Oy. I must get off this train, I am feeling a bit woozy.
[04:01:33] <Ethanol-fueled> cmn32480, I canoot speak for them either. However, If I were to make a surmisation, they do it to personify safe practizesz when dealing with UNIX permissions.
[03:56:44] <cmn32480> stupid caps lock
[03:56:39] <cmn32480> ef, i AM NOT SURE WHY THAT HAPPENS
[03:54:16] <Ethanol-fueled> They do .op then .deop and lurk back into the shadows.
[03:54:05] <cmn32480> between friends, with no malice, and a good laugh on both sides? some days it is sorely needed.
[03:53:57] <Ethanol-fueled> That's one of the peculiar things I've noticed about people here.
[03:53:17] <Deucalion> Abuse of privs is not funny.
[03:52:43] * Deucalion just shakes head.
[03:45:39] <cmn32480> and the snowball has been running downhill ever since
[03:45:28] <cmn32480> he did it to me out of the blue weeks later
[03:45:20] <cmn32480> we were goofing around, and since he didn't have his nickserv pwd, I kicked him and he coudln't do anyhtign about ti
[03:44:29] <cmn32480> this all started when I was helping Bytram get his new laptop running
[03:43:33] <cmn32480> like Donkey Kong
[03:43:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Gettin' there soon.
[03:43:03] <takyon> it's on
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[03:40:29] <Bytram> =)
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[03:40:28] <Bytram> .kick cmn32480
[03:40:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Or hard-throttle your fan to full blast at all times, and play youtube anyway
[03:39:34] <cmn32480> and stop playing youtube
[03:39:29] <takyon> better close hexchat to save cycles
[03:39:28] <cmn32480> turn down the volume
[03:39:19] <takyon> my laptop is making more noise than any computer should
[03:38:43] <Ethanol-fueled> SHithead 4 lyfe. Goodnight!
[03:38:23] <Deucalion> y
[03:38:19] * Deucalion with that goes awa
[03:37:55] <Deucalion> Ethanol-fueled, you really have no idea. Happy to talk sometime as long as you are not falling off a chair at the time.
[03:37:09] <cmn32480> for my reply to gewg_
[03:37:04] <cmn32480> hehe
[03:36:32] <cmn32480> that never happens
[03:36:26] <cmn32480> OOO! I got a Touche mod
[03:36:18] <cmn32480> as a relative measure compared to everyone else, myself included
[03:35:37] <Ethanol-fueled> compared to everybody else?
[03:35:29] <cmn32480> I'd accept that as a distinct possibility
[03:35:14] <Ethanol-fueled> I never held anything against him. He's the most professional fucker in this lot.
[03:34:54] <cmn32480> not even close
[03:34:52] <cmn32480> he ain't a bad guy
[03:33:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, sure comes with being a figurehead. Professionalism and all.
[03:32:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Maybe get him hopped up on meth and buy him some hookers.
[03:32:28] <Ethanol-fueled> that guy needs to lighten up.
[03:30:43] <cmn32480> sleep well Deucalion
[03:30:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Good night.
[03:30:24] * Deucalion floats off to bed - like a transcendental cloud upon a cloud. Ethanol-fueled, you cannot be the victim of your own assholeness, it is of your own making, it is for your to repair. Be well traveller. /me wafts off
[03:26:48] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm the victim of being an asshole.
[03:25:07] <cmn32480> Bend Over Here It Comes Again!
[03:24:43] <Deucalion> Ethanol-fueled, you seem too keen to be the victim for some reason. I have no idea why that is.
[03:23:16] <cmn32480> BOHICA!
[03:23:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, I know the drill. *sighs, bends over, drops pants*
[03:23:03] <Deucalion> cmn32480, expecially exes.
[03:22:19] <cmn32480> it is good to see friends that you haven't seen in 18 months. even if only for a few beers
[03:21:44] <Deucalion> Do you think I am going to kick / ban or kline you?
[03:21:04] <Deucalion> My patience is variable.
[03:19:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Don;t worry, I'll go soon.
[03:19:22] <Ethanol-fueled> not much patience for the wastoids tonight, I presume?
[03:17:20] * Deucalion presents coffee.... this is new too
[03:16:20] <Deucalion> I hear cold war camphor mothballs are a good investment too..... come back I have a coat to sell you..... cold war era.... smell it.....
[03:14:39] <Ethanol-fueled> even stained ones like mine, bahahah.
[03:13:57] <Ethanol-fueled> When the rest of the world population is sleeping on cots in bunkers, suddenly mattresses and duvets will become "luxury goods"
[03:13:21] <Deucalion> Then you plan is fucked. It makes no sense, on the one hand you talk about mattresses and duvets, on the other luxury goods. I really don't think you thought this through.
[03:12:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Then smuggle them into NZ when they become scarce. Because NZ is where all the hedge-fund managers will hide.
[03:12:17] <Ethanol-fueled> The plan is to buy up mattresses and duvets and hold them in a secure warehouse.
[03:11:14] <Ethanol-fueled> The plan depends on the rest of Western society breaking down. Luxury goods are always gonna have fat profit margins.
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[03:10:54] <Deucalion> I have an African Swallow... etc....
[03:10:23] <Deucalion> Buy mattresses and Duvets from NZ and AUS? That's your plan? This discussion is diving into farce.
[03:07:06] * Ethanol-fueled buys up a bunch of mattresses and duvets
[03:06:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh...well...nobody steal my idea, then...
[03:05:27] <Deucalion> Ethanol-fueled, you have me mistaken for someone else.
[03:05:12] <Ethanol-fueled> You may have to fly those items out to New Zealand when society breaks down, but you can do so at a handsome markup.
[03:04:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, cater to the rich people.
[03:04:14] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, so I see. I predict an upsurge in sales of matresses and duvets when people tune out from the illusion of conflict, having been exhausted by it, trying to fix the unfixable - or that which does not require fixing, just time and patience.
[02:56:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, now bed
[02:54:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't look like we have run a story on it. i'll find a better source and do something up in the morning.
[02:53:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> swiss, being really good at it tends to mean less time spent actually working as well.
[02:53:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, rage all around but no direction is par for US politics and culture in general lately.
[02:53:00] <swiss> i've also noticed - the more important your job is, the less time you're required to spend doing it. at least, it seems that way
[02:52:05] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: you don't have to work hard to make wads of cash. You just have to be useful in the right areas
[02:51:30] <Ethanol-fueled> erg, fine, I give up. No point in explaining. Local Yank business, you know?
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[02:50:23] <Deucalion> I see rage all around but no direction
[02:50:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> also, i was speaking of the fact that gnome's got a spending freeze on, not the source.
[02:49:41] <Deucalion> achieved what?
[02:49:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, "echo chamber" being in front of every convenience store and grocery store in the third-largest city in the United States.
[02:49:24] <Deucalion> Ethanol-fueled, how you do you categorise yourself by that definition.
[02:49:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, SJW was coined in `95 or `97, I forget. it wasn't invented by GG.
[02:48:37] <Ethanol-fueled> You're totally right for not getting caught up in a matter of opinion regarding this, though. Most professionals wouldn't. However, most local academics and media aren't "professionals." Bahaha.
[02:48:24] <Deucalion> "local attention" - on echo chambers perhaps.
[02:48:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, one more drop in before i really grab some pillow
[02:47:24] <Ethanol-fueled> They don't use terms like "SJW" and "rape culture" but it's the same hysterial witch-hunt, and it's very real.
[02:46:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, regarding how GG/SJW stuff died with an internet fad -- nope. It's alive and well, as evidenced by the story I described now getting plenty of local attention -- mattress girl MK 2.0 and sensational media failing to get what they want make even more noise in local media.
[02:45:08] <Deucalion> Ethanol-fueled, I am not getting dragged into this debate, one side or the other. The debate is poisonous all around.
[02:43:38] <Ethanol-fueled> When I revealed that I had a letter printed, I added some words of my own but did not stoop to their level in using terms like "SJW" or "rape culture"...I spoke to all in a language they could understand..."perpetually outraged professional victims." Make no mistake -- SJW bullshit is alive and well, they just don't use the same terminology found in 4chan.
[02:43:29] <Deucalion> Ethanol-fueled, I can say whatever I choose in public within reason.
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[02:41:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucaliion, terms like "SJW" you cannot say in public. However, you CAN use terms like "hysterial" or "professional victimhood"
[02:41:06] <Deucalion> Oh ye gads, I thought this SJW, politically correct terms, GG or anti-GG proxy war died months ago. Over sensitivity to any perceived sleight went away 30 years ago didn't it. This is tiring, be done with it, it is past spent.
[02:40:49] * Ethanol-fueled is officially incoherent
[02:39:30] <Ethanol-fueled> except the fake ones who just want attention from us...those kind of "lesbians" are cool...huh huh, heh heh.
[02:39:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, I will tell you this - Lesbians are the sum of all unpleasant aspects of humanity.
[02:38:02] * TheMightyBuzzard heads to bed before waiting for an answer
[02:37:42] <Schwifty> ^ 03Vox Popoli: More social justice convergence in action
[02:37:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> have we run a story on this yet? http://voxday.blogspot.com
[02:34:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll hit the sack on that note.
[02:31:32] <takyon> clap
[02:29:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> gem of wisdom from twitter: Lesbians can only view women as sexual objects. Therefor, being a lesbian is inherently misogynist.
[02:27:33] <chromas> whoops, forgot I was reading scrollback
[02:27:20] <chromas> cartoons are the one thing mtv did right
[02:17:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> none of their bullshit even makes sense to me tonight either
[02:16:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> god damnit
[02:15:56] <Ethanol-fueled> ruh-roh.
[02:15:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh fuck a duck. paypal is changing shit up and i'm gonna be the one having to fix our stuff to match.
[02:15:14] <Ethanol-fueled> I fucked my back up umpteen times, slashed my finger, and made those bastards a million times over what they were paying me. So call me an entitled recipient of the welfare state.
[02:14:07] <Ethanol-fueled> I worked for it, haha!
[02:13:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> stick it to them socialists by being exactly what you said would happen
[02:13:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> thar ya go
[02:12:38] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm all good being poor. Because if I lose my job, I can live on the dole without changing my lifestyle.
[02:11:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm all good being middle-class. no real desire to be rich.
[02:11:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, fuck that. Work to live, don't live to work.
[02:10:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> fat wads of cash generally come with a lot of work and accountability.
[02:10:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Only problem with that "foot-in-the-door" strategy is that you usually have to have had your foot already in the door.
[02:10:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> rather not. i'm not interested in making fat wads of cash. just enough to keep me in booze and smokes and computers.
[02:09:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Like crack, the first hit is free. Demonstrate a need (and more importantly, how much money it saves and how much fatter your boss' bonus will be) and they will pay attention.
[02:08:50] <Ethanol-fueled> or maybe there will be some subsection of a large corporation that decides that the solution you rolled is worth keeping and maintaining, to your benefit.
[02:08:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that's how i ran my wandering sysadmin business
[02:08:12] <swiss> it'll be small businesses that want an infosec guy for a couple hours
[02:08:00] <swiss> they will have in house, or specific vendors
[02:07:54] <swiss> hospitals won't hire you anyway
[02:07:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> but i wouldn't do the same for a hospital
[02:07:35] <swiss> just say "Security professional" and say you can "secure linux servers against all common attacks, and search for evidence of any previous attempts"
[02:07:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i can secure it with firewalls and such so only someone really good is gonna get in when they shouldn't.
[02:06:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Lotta low-hanging fruit out there.
[02:05:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> like i can spec and draw out a school network to customer requirements in an afternoon. and it'll be as good as anyone's.
[02:05:50] <swiss> pft, i made $100/hr as a contractor simply scraping auth.log to figure out who was logging in, setting up a firewall to restrict access to specific sources (like where they had mysql open to the world, just to talk to one other server), and changing passwords on the servers
[02:04:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but i, for myself, have to rock at something if i'm going to do it and charge money for it.
[02:04:18] <swiss> and i mostly work in monitoring
[02:04:12] <swiss> i only keep up with shit relevant to my area at work
[02:03:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, like i said, i never seem to find the time to keep up with recent developments. not sure why.
[02:03:58] <swiss> with 90% of infosec jobs, they do no wizardry
[02:03:31] <swiss> then you're prob good enough to do infosec
[02:03:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. those i get at least
[02:03:08] <swiss> or understanding how a DNS reflection attack works
[02:02:58] <swiss> so more understanding protocols and stuff. Like understanding how a piece of malware could be using DNS as a full communication channel
[02:02:29] <swiss> instead it's trying to identify attack patterns, and find indicators for shit that hasn't come out yet
[02:02:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> well beyond patching
[02:02:01] <swiss> we have india to do that :P
[02:01:43] <swiss> oh, security like that isn't real security. That's learning to patch
[02:01:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean i give it a shot and most of my servers can stand up to any script kiddies but it seems like i'm always falling behind.
[02:01:23] <swiss> but give me 3-4 days, and i can know the way to set it up on almost any environment
[02:01:06] <swiss> i'm shit with split horizon and dnssec, for example
[02:00:54] <swiss> i catch up when i need to catch up
[02:00:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't ever seem to have the time.
[02:00:42] <swiss> because learning to set up an AD environment with mixed unix, linux, and windows boxes was fun to me at the time
[02:00:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. you do keep up to date though, yeah?
[02:00:13] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: honestly, i don't have specific skills for infosec... I spent a year and a half learning sysadmin shit for every service out there, and then got an infosec job gettin shit done
[02:00:02] <Ethanol-fueled> everybody's an asshole. Some just admit it more readily than others.
[01:59:27] <swiss> when it's often completely untrue
[01:59:20] <swiss> i think that some people think that because i'm so blunt and quick to be an asshole, that me NOT being an asshole to them means i like them
[01:59:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> always wanted to do that. sysadmin was as close as i could find and had the time to acquire the skills for.
[01:58:48] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: people just attribute it to me being young
[01:58:39] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: nah, i work in infosec
[01:58:29] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, you must be an investor of some sort.
[01:58:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> swiss, me too. people think it's funny.
[01:58:13] <Ethanol-fueled> I've been around plenty of downs...they know what they can get away with.
[01:58:11] <swiss> but i seem to have gotten away with being an asshole, the same way downs people get away with being stupid
[01:57:57] <swiss> right
[01:57:53] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss - a super stupid you're allowed to get away with.
[01:57:39] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: but also gives you super stupid
[01:57:31] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, having downs gives you super-strength.
[01:57:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> now someone busting out with intentionally keeping folks down out of malice, that's another story and where unfairness comes in.
[01:57:15] <swiss> like some form of downs + autism
[01:57:07] <Ethanol-fueled> if I met you I probably would, swiss. \
[01:57:07] <swiss> though apparently a lot of the people i meet think i have autism, but still am nice
[01:56:54] <swiss> i'm lucky that people don't hate me in real life
[01:56:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> pre/post, random luck is random luck. nobody can count on it.
[01:55:43] <swiss> pre-birth randomness
[01:55:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> they do, but randomness does play a factor for them just as it did with you.
[01:55:23] <swiss> i don't have any urge to share with them, but I won't claim it was fair
[01:55:00] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: i'm sayin that someone else born at the same time as me doesn't have equal opportunity
[01:54:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's just part of the game.
[01:54:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean you wouldn't bitch and moan that you didn't get a full house at the card table.
[01:54:27] <swiss> and i get paid what i want
[01:54:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure it does. luck is fair because it's as random as a dice roll or a hand of cards.
[01:54:16] <swiss> i work on what i want
[01:54:13] <swiss> i go to work when i want
[01:54:07] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: i'm doin that
[01:54:05] <Ethanol-fueled> And if you do, you're a lucky son of a bitch.
[01:53:57] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: right - but it doesn't make it fair
[01:53:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Yep Buzzard, nothing wrong with doing things you love doing...but expecting to make a living from them and only them is a fools' errand.
[01:52:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't mean you don't deserve it though. you worked for it. enjoyment is a nice added plus but it doesn't feed you even a single day.
[01:52:38] <Ethanol-fueled> There's something to be admired about mercenaries -- whether programmers, chefs, hell shit-slovelers...they may not even like it but they do it well enough to make money.
[01:52:05] <swiss> it just happened to be
[01:51:58] <swiss> hell, i didn't pick it.
[01:51:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, you just picked something to enjoy that also happened to make money
[01:51:30] <swiss> so it's not fair that i enjoyed the stuff that made me successful
[01:51:20] <swiss> it's "i worked on it because i had fun working on it"
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[01:51:13] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: basically, but none of the "i worked for it so i could be where i am"
[01:50:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ADHD hyper-focus levels most likely
[01:50:49] <Ethanol-fueled> A lot of technological success stories are about being in the right place at the right time, especially considering Bill Gates.
[01:50:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but how much work did you put into stuff you wanted to?
[01:50:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it kinda is if you assume random dice rolls are fair
[01:50:02] <swiss> i didn't try in school, i didn't put a lot of work into anything i didn't want to, and i'm successful under age 25
[01:49:43] <swiss> i'm a great example that life's not fair
[01:49:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, the equality of opportunity vs. equality of outcome thing is spot-on.
[01:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i said my piece and i'm bored listening to twats who think everyone should get the same results or it should be taken from their betters and given to them.
[01:47:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[01:47:32] <Ethanol-fueled> assuming life's fair?
[01:45:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, i stirred up a pretty good bit of arguing on the life's not fair article. they're gonna be disappointed that i'm done throwing pearls before swine.
[01:45:29] <swiss> eclipse is always slow for me
[01:45:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Erg, it is time for a hardware upgrade soon...Eclipse is running slow as shit. And that never happened before.
[01:44:48] <Schwifty> ^ 03Where Are Intel's Desktop Broadwell CPUs?
[01:44:42] <takyon> http://www.tomshardware.com
[01:44:32] <Ethanol-fueled> I sure won't.
[01:43:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh, some people will just never properly appreciate good booze.
[01:43:50] <swiss> takyon: make ones that are as effective as ice cubes, sell by the dozen. It'll replace ice trays anyway for me
[01:43:43] <takyon> be one of the first 100 backers to get the cheap price
[01:43:29] <swiss> easier than refilling an ice tray
[01:43:23] <takyon> me and swiss are starting an indiegogo
[01:43:20] <swiss> so you're done, rinse them off, throw them back in the freezer
[01:43:15] <takyon> yeah
[01:43:10] <swiss> also, reusable
[01:43:00] <takyon> so you're cooling your whiskey, sure, that might not be optimal, but at least you aren't watering it down
[01:42:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, zactly
[01:42:53] <swiss> or jack
[01:42:51] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: i wouldn't chill midleton. But I'd chill bushmills black
[01:42:50] <Ethanol-fueled> exactly, buzzard...cooling booze is for assholes like me who just wana chug.
[01:42:24] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, that makes sense to people who enjoy booze for the taste.
[01:42:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> whiskey should NEVER be cold. hides too much of the flavor.
[01:42:13] <swiss> i don't have an icemaker, so ice is a pain anyway
[01:42:10] <takyon> kickstarters make a lot of tall claims though
[01:42:04] <swiss> i've been considering whiskey stones
[01:41:51] <takyon> just seemed useful for cooling drinks and whatnot
[01:41:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahaha
[01:41:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i ever see a hipster using them, ima make em eat em
[01:41:41] <takyon> Ethanol-fueled I almost wanted to pull the trigger on some kickstarter(s) for those
[01:41:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Whiskey stones are the latest fad among the hipsters.
[01:40:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> idea is to cut the burn from the alcohol so's you can taste the rest of the flavors
[01:40:19] <swiss> i blame it on the fuckin knob creek
[01:40:18] <takyon> bulemia seems like a legitimate way to enjoy alcohol though
[01:40:10] <swiss> second time pukin from booze, ever
[01:40:00] <takyon> swiss i feel ya
[01:39:49] <swiss> and i still am gaggin at the thought of straight whiskey
[01:39:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> swiss, generally no, bout 2:1 or 1:1 booze:water
[01:39:40] <swiss> though i puked when i partied with my friends with this stuff 2 weeks ago
[01:39:21] <swiss> and i don't understand how that could make a difference
[01:39:13] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: i've heard one drop of water per shot
[01:39:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> swiss, that's also his advice about gay, IR pr0n
[01:39:03] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahah
[01:38:59] <takyon> it's your booze
[01:38:50] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: i'd tell people in real life just to piss them off
[01:38:40] <Ethanol-fueled> go for it swiss -- nobody's looking. Nobody in real-life ever has to know.
[01:38:37] <swiss> takyon: my cure is just eating breakfast
[01:38:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> not as awesome as with a wee bit of water
[01:38:18] <swiss> just to see how awesome it would be
[01:38:08] <swiss> TheMightyBuzzard: i have been debating making a whiskey sour with the midleton
[01:38:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Aeon flux had a pretty good episode about that...a pill called "bliss" that causes the loss of all memory.
[01:37:41] <takyon> mine is to drink iced tea and not fall asleep after drinking
[01:37:15] <takyon> everyone has their cure
[01:37:02] <Ethanol-fueled> er...Whiskey is awesome to drink. Whisky is for lawyers and other bitter-hearted bastards.
[01:36:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Whisky and Whiskey are awesome to drink but dat hangover.
[01:35:14] <takyon> fancy catsup
[01:34:07] <swiss> that stuff was scary good as well
[01:34:05] <Ethanol-fueled> or KETCHUP
[01:34:02] <swiss> also, bought some bushmills black
[01:33:56] <Ethanol-fueled> that's like putting A1 on a dry-aged filet
[01:33:53] <takyon> haha
[01:33:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, you mix coke with a bottle of booze over $100 and you're dead to me.
[01:33:22] <swiss> felt like death
[01:33:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeech....putting stuff up your nose? Mucus? The ghetto jaw-boogie?
[01:33:18] <swiss> i also got a bottle of knob creek 120 single barrel. That shit was way too rough
[01:32:38] * takyon gets the coke
[01:32:35] <swiss> hue
[01:32:26] * Ethanol-fueled gets the joke
[01:32:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> 18 is where i like mine aged. any more and they lose too much character.
[01:32:10] <Ethanol-fueled> one bottle of middleton is a farm-fresh whore and a bottle of Makers Mark
[01:32:01] <swiss> 21 is like >$1k
[01:31:51] <takyon> not sure about 17 or 21
[01:31:41] <takyon> hibiki 12 year is like $60
[01:31:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus fuck
[01:31:27] <swiss> for 750
[01:31:21] <swiss> it wasn't too pricey - $150
[01:31:05] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: midleton is the high end jameson
[01:30:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahaah, the best shit I ever had was either Makers Mark or Jack Daniels Single Barrel
[01:30:41] <swiss> like, not just of hibiki. But of whiskey, period.
[01:30:33] <swiss> takyon: i heard 21 is da best
[01:30:25] <takyon> 12 year
[01:30:25] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: depends on how much you make
[01:30:19] <swiss> takyon: which hibiki
[01:29:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Sounds like the kind of shit you save for special occasions.
[01:28:59] <takyon> the nicest whiskey i've tasted is hibiki
[01:28:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[01:28:25] <swiss> midleton very rare
[01:27:46] <Ethanol-fueled> What'd you get?
[01:27:29] <swiss> was good shit
[01:27:28] <swiss> i bought some high end whiskey a couple weeks ago
[01:27:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Once you go black, you never go back.
[01:26:46] <takyon> I have one last New Belgium 1554 Black Lager
[01:26:30] <takyon> solid
[01:26:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Torpedo.
[01:26:19] <takyon> what are you drinking
[01:25:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Ugh, back.
[01:25:04] <SpallsHurgenson> press delete 4 times.
[01:23:54] <takyon> 4 new messages
[01:23:45] <takyon> thanks breh
[01:23:29] * SpallsHurgenson hands takyon a tissue
[01:23:08] <takyon> hhujjj
[01:13:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nobody said you gotta cover your nethers with them. http://monte.kirsch.org
[01:12:07] * SpallsHurgenson shakes his head, "no, ignore him; he's just trying to frighten me. There are no such things as pants."
[01:11:46] <SpallsHurgenson> p-p-pants?
[01:11:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> you could always leave the ac on and put on pants if it gets cold
[01:06:35] <SpallsHurgenson> geez, it's warm in here; what moron turned off the AC?
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[01:00:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Good question. I'm gonna step out for beers. Be back in a bit.
[00:58:29] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, who keeps turning on the AC after I turned it off?
[00:55:12] <Ethanol-fueled> http://2.bp.blogspot.com
[00:55:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, you'll like this one:
[00:54:10] <Ethanol-fueled> I didn't even catch that. I couldn't catch a plastic bag or a blob of algae
[00:53:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> and a smoke now that i think of it
[00:52:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell i ain't leavin, just gettin a drink.
[00:52:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, that's even smaller than the shit i been catching
[00:52:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Allright, later!
[00:52:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's time for proper southern sweet tea. too much beer tonight. slowing my brain down and making it miss shit.
[00:52:10] <Ethanol-fueled> You might like that one.
[00:52:05] <Schwifty> ^ 03Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
[00:52:05] <Ethanol-fueled> http://imgur.com
[00:49:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Hell yeah.
[00:49:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, i have beer and fishing poles. i'm ready for anything.
[00:47:23] <Deucalion> It's 11/9 here.... doesn't work so well
[00:46:35] <Ethanol-fueled> So, y'all ready for 9/11?
[00:45:57] <Ethanol-fueled> http://s3.amazonaws.com
[00:44:08] * Ethanol-fueled just realized that manbearpig is the thing from The Shining
[00:38:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahah, sheeeit, I do that anyway.
[00:37:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> you played with your imaginary boobs while typing with the other hand the whole time, didn't you?
[00:37:26] <Ethanol-fueled> The only regret was having to use a female pseudonum to increase the likelihood of it being printed.
[00:37:25] <chromas> retro-rape
[00:36:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck rape culture. it doesn't exist.
[00:36:37] <Ethanol-fueled> ..that's where I come in...to put my foot up the ass of that nonsense.
[00:36:17] <Ethanol-fueled> So after the cops found him not guilty (even though the media shamelessly branded him as an evil rapist and posted his picture everywhere) there was a lot of sour grapes about the injustuce of a rapist getting away, and campus rape culture blah blah
[00:35:33] <Ethanol-fueled> basically what happened was the same story with Mattress girl -- some floozy had flings with a guy, texted him before it happened saying how much she wanted him and everything, then she sucked him off and all of a sudden it was forced oral copulation.
[00:33:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice
[00:33:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Bahaha. Let the shitstorm begin!
[00:32:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Which means ALL OF SAN DIEGO has been trolled.
[00:32:27] <Ethanol-fueled> I used a female pseudonym, but it was still printed -- and in response to a "rape" that happened locally.
[00:32:01] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahah, well, I got my revenge -- I mass-trolled San Diego by having the text from my Paglia journal here actually printed in a local publication.
[00:31:32] <swiss> see how that makes them feel
[00:31:09] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: point out that mexicans are now the majority in california, so you can't technically be racist against mexicans in california, by their own rules
[00:31:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> good on ya for not putting up with that crap
[00:30:26] <Ethanol-fueled> you gotta have the right kind of woman for shooting guns -- gotta be a bit jiggly, but not too jiggly.
[00:29:47] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss - shitty. Group work. They stuck me with the retards as punishment for calling out their SJW bullshit in the "white guilt" class last semester.
[00:29:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Heeheeheeheehee
[00:29:10] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: how goes schoolstuff?
[00:28:49] <Schwifty> ^ 03GUNS AND BOOBS - YouTube
[00:28:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[00:27:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn skippy. even better if they come together.
[00:27:23] <Ethanol-fueled> wait, boobs and guns?
[00:26:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> gracias
[00:26:07] <SpallsHurgenson> or boob-guns! or gun-boobs!
[00:26:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice journal.
[00:26:02] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup buzzid
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[00:25:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> the day i can't talk about guns or boobs is the day i quit irc forever
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[00:23:51] <SpallsHurgenson> mode +i :)
[00:23:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> we have locks?
[00:22:53] <SpallsHurgenson> if I mention guns here, can we get the channel put into full lockdown?
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[00:22:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[00:22:02] <Schwifty> ^ 03New Jersey School Locked Down After Video Game Conversation Is Mistaken for Gun Threat | NBC New York
[00:21:57] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> http://www.nbcnewyork.com
[00:17:21] <SpallsHurgenson> my BBQ isn't winning the battle against the rain :-(
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[00:14:18] * TheMightyBuzzard fires the anime back up
[00:12:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> course you'd have to explain that tea should be hot and not as thick with sugar as syrup.
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[00:11:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh they'd like you just fine. posh brit type (all brits are posh to southerners) and all.
[00:10:16] <Deucalion> I just hear of stereotypes, so I'll take it as I find it if I ever get there
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[00:09:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of em are like "yeah, okay, that's fair"
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[00:09:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just tell people church interferes with my fishing
[00:09:20] <Deucalion> s/in/one/
[00:09:04] <Deucalion> I hear they are welcoming down in those parts as long as is unspecific as to which church one has chosen to attend :D
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[00:03:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's the south for ya
[00:03:10] <Deucalion> Mighty charitable neighbour!
[00:02:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> bud light here, neighbor wanted help drinking his beer.
[00:01:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup, EF