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[23:59:51] <n1> i was being sarcastic (obviously?)
[23:59:41] <n1> i agree
[23:59:26] <SpallsHurgenson> this is not necessarily aimed at you, but the "I wanna vote for the winner" attitude is the cause of a lot of America's electoral issues. Nobody wants to vote for a candidate that might not win, even if it would send a clear message to the other politicians that their current methods aren't meeting to our satisfaction
[23:59:06] <drinkyon> ICANN: We're the Least Worst Option
[23:58:51] <n1> finest logic in the world right there
[23:58:40] <n1> but you are probably right, ICANN is best for the job, because ICANN said so, and ICANN is the only organization with the experience to have an opinion on the matter
[23:58:23] * drinkyon tips his union
[23:57:40] <n1> keeps them honest and humble
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[23:57:31] <n1> i just like voting for a winner, and it keeps them on their toes, knowing they get 8 years off every 8 years.
[23:56:55] <SpallsHurgenson> I just write my own name in :)
[23:56:53] <takyon> mccain such a shit in '08
[23:54:28] <n1> thats why i alternate my vote between democrat and republican every 2 terms, they're the best people at the time.
[23:51:40] <SpallsHurgenson> the problem with icann is they are still probably the best people to oversee domain names
[23:47:06] <n1> i feel like i should care, but i would be shocked if it was any different.
[23:42:48] <Schwifty> ^ 03ICANN descends into farce as bigwigs try to cling to power • The Register
[23:42:47] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[23:40:00] <SpallsHurgenson> I think there's something wrong with the website. I click on an article and it loads. This is unexpected behavior :)
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[22:04:58] <Schwifty> Karma - teamwork: 1
[22:04:58] <crutchy> ++teamwork
[21:31:21] <Bender> karma - gravis: -2
[21:31:21] <cmn32480|breakinstuf> gravis--
[21:16:03] <Bender> karma - gravis: -1
[21:16:03] <n1> Gravis--
[20:20:12] <Gravis> balance has been restored to the force
[20:19:53] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 0
[20:19:53] <Gravis> teamwork--
[20:19:52] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 1
[20:19:52] <Gravis> teamwork--
[20:19:52] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 2
[20:19:52] <Gravis> teamwork--
[20:19:51] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 3
[20:19:51] <Gravis> teamwork--
[20:19:51] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 4
[20:19:50] <Gravis> teamwork--
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[16:18:51] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 5
[16:18:51] <cmn32480> teamwork++
[16:13:54] <n1> so youtube now apparently creates channels automatically based on hashtags
[16:13:23] <n1> "This channel was generated automatically by YouTube's video discovery system."
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[14:49:36] <SirFinkus> I don't know
[14:46:44] <janrinok> I'll play - why are you watching these videos?
[14:46:20] <SirFinkus> why am I watching these videos
[14:46:15] <SirFinkus> I need hlep
[14:46:14] <Schwifty> ^ 03WINNING THE MEGA JACKPOT!!! - JAPAN ARCADE - YouTube
[14:46:13] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[14:42:36] <janrinok> paulej72: are you not enjoying your holiday weekend?
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[13:51:12] <paulej72> plubbb
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[12:52:23] <janrinok> exactly - and enough to ensure that the odd dupe gets through and the community are 100% effective at spotting that!
[12:51:51] <SirFinkus> just high enough to inspire confidence, but low enough to bite you in the ass
[12:51:33] <SirFinkus> nothing worse than something than a tool that works 90% of the time
[12:50:21] <janrinok> yes, but it is not working as well as it should do for some reason - or more correctly wasn't working as well when I left a few weeks ago. It might have been fixed now...
[12:49:48] <SirFinkus> might be a good tool to have
[12:49:43] <SirFinkus> do you guys have an article checker or something that grabs all the links from previous articles and checks for dupes?
[12:48:39] <janrinok> lol
[12:48:33] * SirFinkus begins resubmitting articles from a week ago
[12:42:01] <janrinok> thx - I think it is good to be back, but it is a little like starting all over again, I have to get the brain back in gear and catch up with the last few week's stories to try to avoid dupes!
[12:41:09] <SirFinkus> good to have you back
[12:40:50] <janrinok> I've been back to the UK for just over 2 weeks and returned to the ed chair yesterday
[12:40:43] <SirFinkus> about right
[12:40:40] <SirFinkus> Too much food, too much booze, too many dirty jokes
[12:40:25] <janrinok> lol - it sounds like it was a good party!
[12:40:08] <SirFinkus> almost back to normal
[12:40:06] <SirFinkus> all the days are blending together
[12:39:55] <SirFinkus> err, day before yesterday
[12:39:48] <SirFinkus> pretty good, recovering from a family party yesterday
[12:39:24] <janrinok> how's things?
[12:39:18] <janrinok> hi SirFinkus
[12:39:08] <SirFinkus> lo janrinok
[12:33:24] <janrinok> Hi guys - the wanderer returns!
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[11:07:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - For These 'Cyborgs', Keys Are So Yesterday - http://sylnt.us - cut-off-a-hand-to-get-the-keys
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[09:06:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GRSecurity Linux Kernel Patch to End Public Accessability of Stable Patches. - http://sylnt.us - the-GPL-is-open-to-interpretation
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[06:34:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Washington State Supreme Court: Charter Schools are Unconstitutional - http://sylnt.us - public-money-for-private-profit
[05:57:44] <crutchy> oh well nothing new there :D
[05:57:37] <crutchy> oh shit i'm talking to myself :/
[05:57:29] <crutchy> oh that's right. it was about a more efficient future driven by technology
[05:56:22] <crutchy> we had a great debate about something. i'm sure it was about something important even though i can't remember exactly what :p
[05:55:34] <crutchy> we were yesterday
[05:55:29] <crutchy> eh?
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[05:31:14] <SpallsHurgenson> ever notice crutchy and takyon are never in the channel at the same time? :)
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[04:47:54] <takyon> later
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[04:43:01] <cmn32480> see all you knuckleheads tomorrow
[04:42:58] <cmn32480> I've had enough fun for one day.
[04:42:52] <cmn32480> ok, the story queue is packed 'till 11am.
[04:39:13] <Schwifty> ^ 03After 25-Year Hiatus, First Arabic-Language 'Sesame Street' Opens Again : NPR
[04:39:13] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
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[04:32:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Using Stellar 'Twins' to Reach the Outer Limits of the Galaxy - http://sylnt.us - we-can-now-tell-how-far-far-far-away-is
[04:31:54] <takyon> "The annual pillow fight among freshmen at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point took a violent turn this year, with 30 injuries caused by cadets stuffing pillows with helmets and other hard objects."
[04:31:50] <Schwifty> ^ 03Pillow Fight Packs Some Pain, As Some Cadets Play Dirty : NPR
[04:31:49] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[04:31:19] <takyon> yup
[04:30:30] <takyon> 2011?
[04:30:21] <takyon> what year was sandy bridge
[04:30:15] <takyon> i think it might be fixed
[04:29:33] * SpallsHurgenson checks to see if the website is fixed... which will be difficult 'cause it wasn't really broken for me
[04:26:24] * SpallsHurgenson prefers it to the sequel; there's something to be said for its simplicity.
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[04:25:51] <cmn32480> I don't know that I ever played it.
[04:25:45] <cmn32480> nope
[04:25:37] <cmn32480> there are jsut a lot fewer people there to see it
[04:24:49] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> nobody plays the original Left4Dead anymore :-(
[04:24:27] <Ethanol-fueled> and the fact that the sub force is every bit as imperfect as the surface forces...people in the sonar room falling asleep on duty, etc.
[04:23:42] <Ethanol-fueled> and breathing recycled farts.
[04:23:28] <cmn32480> 6 months, no women, strange shit is bound to happen
[04:22:57] <Ethanol-fueled> and...yes, this is unpleasant...circle-jerks.
[04:22:53] <cmn32480> that'd make you shit your pants
[04:22:45] <cmn32480> ZOINKS
[04:22:37] <cmn32480> not somethign that I woudl want to do.
[04:22:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Like wandering into live-fire exercises
[04:22:30] <cmn32480> me too
[04:22:23] <Ethanol-fueled> I've heard some pretty horriffic stories from actual ex-submariners.
[04:22:21] <cmn32480> but the American nuclear sub fleet is almost as quiet as the electric sub
[04:21:46] * cmn32480 read "The Hunt for Red October"
[04:21:17] <cmn32480> w/ nuclear, there is still pump noise
[04:21:02] <cmn32480> on electric they are almost completly silent
[04:20:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Like the ability for silent short-term cruises.
[04:20:52] <cmn32480> yes
[04:20:45] <Ethanol-fueled> There are some stealth advantages of diesel-electric, no?
[04:20:20] <Schwifty> ^ 03Next Big Future: Light-harvesting nanoparticles captures energy from ?hot electrons? to split molecules of water into oxygen and hydrogen
[04:20:20] <takyon> http://nextbigfuture.com
[04:19:41] <Schwifty> ^ 03Next Big Future: Israel gets fifth diesel electric submarine as backbone of nuclear deterrent against Iran
[04:19:40] <takyon> http://nextbigfuture.com
[04:19:05] <cmn32480> pretty much
[04:19:02] <cmn32480> right now?
[04:18:53] <takyon> cool I can throw anything in the Q and it will get published
[04:18:29] * cmn32480 thinks about changing it back
[04:18:15] <cmn32480> the whole thread woudl turn into a gigantic penis joke
[04:17:52] <takyon> Imagine? I'm draftingthem
[04:17:51] <cmn32480> it'd be a bloodbath.
[04:17:26] <cmn32480> can you imagine the comments?
[04:17:24] <takyon> P2P
[04:17:15] <takyon> we've all been there
[04:15:01] <cmn32480> dear god.. I almost posted a story about the Large Hardon Collider
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[04:09:05] <takyon> nah
[04:09:01] <cmn32480> regardless of if you sleep or not, it is still a hangover
[04:08:43] <cmn32480> I get one after a single glass of wine
[04:08:38] <Ethanol-fueled> whatever your cure is, eat it before you go to sleep.
[04:08:36] <cmn32480> yeah? so?
[04:08:28] <takyon> I didn't go to sleep yet
[04:08:02] <cmn32480> that's called a hangover
[04:07:31] <takyon> especially me, I have a headache
[04:07:26] <takyon> there's a little ethanol in all of us
[04:06:37] * Deucalion passes out again
[04:06:26] <Deucalion> E_F becomes human.... what is this.... can SN have the scoop?
[04:06:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Unlike those assholes who thought they could take a picture of Bison with a selfie stick.
[04:05:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Having family with a horse ranch teaches you things like that. When you first meet an animal that can kick your ass and kill you, you approach them on THEIR own terms, not yours.
[04:04:28] <Ethanol-fueled> There's something about the chance of having your ass kicked that makes you behave differently.
[04:03:23] <Ethanol-fueled> vr missions are not like real-life. Solid Snake said so.
[04:02:09] <takyon> we don't need the night sky, ethanol-fueled, we just need VR!
[04:00:46] * Deucalion hears muted laughter.... so be it,
[04:00:45] <Schwifty> ^ 03Immersed Europe: Murcia, Spain Plays Host To VR/AR Conference
[04:00:45] <takyon> http://www.tomshardware.com
[03:59:21] <Ethanol-fueled> lata
[03:59:15] <Ethanol-fueled> kata
[03:59:05] <takyon> night'
[03:58:57] <cmn32480> sleep well Deucalion
[03:58:44] * Deucalion passes out.... mumbles something about the enemy within.... probably madness on their part.
[03:58:12] <cmn32480> borax kicks ass for killing bugs. on;y problem si that it looks like a white powder in a baggie....
[03:56:45] * Deucalion sprinkles cretaceous soil around the place - bedbugs no more.
[03:54:12] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[03:53:58] <cmn32480> from EVERY hotel
[03:53:52] <cmn32480> have taken to disinfecting my suitcases before packing for the airport
[03:53:49] <JamesNZ> Or so you think ;)
[03:53:18] <cmn32480> no worries of that here
[03:53:15] <cmn32480> nope... I'm at home
[03:52:50] <JamesNZ> Suddenly, bedbugs.
[03:52:48] <Deucalion> I'll leave you to experiment with Afghanistan's exports E-F if you so choose. There is no supply without demand after all. Up to you...your choice.... nothing your elders may be able to shed some light on as they were never exposed to such things. Wake up and listen.
[03:45:20] <Ethanol-fueled> ("tee-HEE!")
[03:44:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, since we liberated Afghanistan's heroin market, you'll have a lot of that to choose from.
[03:44:42] <Deucalion> and thus the deal is sealed.
[03:44:18] <cmn32480> we haven't had the vintage here since 1969
[03:43:55] <Deucalion> I want wine
[03:43:41] <cmn32480> but you can never leave!
[03:43:37] <cmn32480> you can check out any time you like...
[03:43:31] <cmn32480> yes...
[03:43:22] <Deucalion> Fucking cynical bastards all around - wait am I in Hotel California?
[03:43:05] <cmn32480> will your lover be Saddam HUssein?
[03:42:19] <cmn32480> ~gnight mrcoolbp
[03:42:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Ooo-ooo! Can I be Satan?
[03:42:11] <cmn32480> let's get together and feel alright
[03:42:09] <Deucalion> o/
[03:42:06] <cmn32480> one heart
[03:42:03] <Deucalion> o.
[03:41:56] <mrcoolbp> one love
[03:41:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Later bro.
[03:41:48] * mrcoolbp HAS TO LEAVE, G'NIGHT ALL!!
[03:41:46] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: agreed actually, I'm going to go eat!!
[03:41:26] <chromas> Plus NC's posts can count as sermons on the mount
[03:41:22] <Deucalion> mrcoolbp, I hope you are laughing at me together as much as I am laughing at me. But your focus should be on "together" regardless how comical the populace of this channel.
[03:40:54] <chromas> With all the hugs going around, Soylent should register as a church. All the benefits of an nfp, none of the hassle
[03:40:50] * cmn32480 still has the vm installed, but hans't had time to poke it much
[03:40:29] * chromas upgraded in a vm; poked it a bit, then closed it
[03:40:22] * Ethanol-fueled backs away slowly
[03:40:09] <Ethanol-fueled> You guys are gonna do it...you guys are actually gonna UPGRADE.
[03:39:57] <cmn32480> chromas is correct. upgrades until end of next july
[03:39:32] * mrcoolbp hugs chromas
[03:39:16] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: I can walk away from this discussion and y'all will not hate me for not paying attention to every second, I can return when I'm able. That's acceptable to us.
[03:38:35] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: my wife is amazing and we are having a good time
[03:38:17] <cmn32480> as is evidenced by his use of penis emlargement devices
[03:38:16] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: we are not friends for the next 3.4 min
[03:38:14] <chromas> I think you have a year from the relase of 10 to get the free 'upgrade'
[03:38:00] <cmn32480> mrcoolbp - his was shorter
[03:37:56] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480 I think so ya
[03:37:55] <Deucalion> mrcoolbp, if your wife needs attention, go attend to that, eat steak and be well. Us sad-sacks will still be here debating the same things when you get back.
[03:37:47] * mrcoolbp is jealous that cmn32480 replied to EF before himself
[03:37:47] <cmn32480> mrcoolbp - supposed to be for upgrades in the first year
[03:37:28] <cmn32480> ef - agreed
[03:37:13] <Ethanol-fueled> cmn, but putting dick features in a release in the first-place doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in the company, as more and more entities are having their data stolen.
[03:37:08] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: do you think I'll lose my free upgrade thingy? They offered through the OS itself from what I can tell, I just don't have enough time to follow computer stuff these days (yes I realize how sad/pathetic this seems to this community)
[03:36:57] <cmn32480> sorry - yes for win 10
[03:36:29] <cmn32480> by then the bugs shoudl be mostly worked out, adn a lot of the stuff that is really pissing people off will have been removed or have concrete ways to remove it.
[03:36:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, has Microsoft officially reached that inflection point where they have nowhere to go but down?
[03:36:11] <mrcoolbp> for Win 10?
[03:36:02] <cmn32480> mrcoolbp - hold off another 6months or so. think April timeframe
[03:35:40] <Ethanol-fueled> People who are forced to use windows and want to make it as tolerable as possible. Classic Shell is probably the best example of that.
[03:35:38] * mrcoolbp has delayed his free upgrade to windows 10 so far but has considered doing it and is not sure why
[03:35:30] <Deucalion> mythterj, MS used to have good docs online with TechNet and the like,,, I am not an MS hater but their recent snail / armadillo stance leaves something to be desired.
[03:35:10] <Ethanol-fueled> mytherj, there are a lot of good tips for stripping the bullshit out of Windows. That's what people here want to read.
[03:35:01] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled actually (in between racist comments) has had some decent comments/criticism etc. for SN
[03:34:52] <cmn32480> from my limited workings with it, so far the online help is pretty limited. and google (or DDG, or whatever search engine) tend to not give great results on it quite yet
[03:33:54] <mrcoolbp> I tend to agree, I'd rather not have "Ethanol-fueled" on staff, but I do really like him when I have spoken with him in the past (despite him being a realatively admitted red-blooded asshole)
[03:33:35] <cmn32480> mytherj - you been working with win 10?
[03:32:42] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: EF has said publicly that he will likely "apply" to join staff but we will have no idea it is him (backstory)
[03:32:37] <mythterj> But it was a silly topic anyway. MS has pertty good docs online, and google finds them. I thought the whole topic was silly.
[03:31:51] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: true, but help me with the context, I'm trying to give attention to my wife whom is cooking me steak at current time
[03:30:52] <cmn32480> there was one asking for good places to find quality info that turned into "use Linux, nimnob" from most of the comments
[03:30:39] <Ethanol-fueled> There are always gonna be your "I cured Windows by installing UBUNTU LINUX" comments in Windows stories.
[03:30:10] <cmn32480> sort of
[03:30:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, that's a good point. Though the recent Win 10 stories were actually pretty good.
[03:29:27] <cmn32480> specifically windows 8 or 10
[03:29:19] <cmn32480> windows
[03:29:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Stories about trolls or trolling, systemd, gotta be a few others.
[03:28:53] <Ethanol-fueled> There are recurring classes of stories that are specifically designed for two-minutes' hate.
[03:28:24] <cmn32480> all we woudl ahve to do is write about system d
[03:28:11] <cmn32480> i expect is would be seen as an interesting but very different thing and devolve into a flame-fest
[03:27:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Personally I think it's a good idea, because "special guests" provide all the benefits of controversy while being more explicitly disentangled from the staff.
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[03:25:57] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't know how guest editors or repeating guest editorials would be received here -- but only because at the other place, you had bennett haselton
[03:24:55] <Deucalion> mrcoolbp, note - SN is not incorporated as an NFP at this point.
[03:24:42] <cmn32480> rocketship tie clip!
[03:24:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Nah, not without the blessing of the staff.
[03:24:36] <mrcoolbp> omfg I love you EF
[03:24:19] <Deucalion> E-F as an editor - that would the be ultimate troll. Can we expect stories on the science around length and girth of penis extending equipment?
[03:24:10] <Ethanol-fueled> And that picture proves I'm not a racist. So there.
[03:24:03] <Ethanol-fueled> http://i.imgur.com
[03:24:02] <Ethanol-fueled> So instead of helping you guys I taught people electronics.
[03:24:01] <cmn32480> it wouldn't be "you guys", it would be "us guys", as you were here on internship.
[03:23:51] * mrcoolbp digs up the Bug-list
[03:23:39] <Ethanol-fueled> the uni demands that I do free tech work for a nonprofit.
[03:23:23] <mrcoolbp> so that it is legit
[03:23:16] <mrcoolbp> but I'll make you do something in return (probably)
[03:22:38] <mrcoolbp> I will send letterhead to that effect if you want
[03:22:29] <mrcoolbp> lol, what was that then?
[03:22:17] <Ethanol-fueled> I just completed my "internship" that I was supposed to be doing for you guys.
[03:22:09] <mrcoolbp> aye
[03:22:01] <Ethanol-fueled> It will be waited for.
[03:21:35] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled: best to wait for a few people joining so you can blend in with the other mild-mannered nerds, probably less effort but whatever blows ye-olde-skirt up
[03:21:04] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll use ToR and a dictionary/grammar-rearranger of my own design to fool you.
[03:20:12] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled: I will expect your super-secret application to staff by then (and probably not realize it's you, but no promises)
[03:18:54] <mrcoolbp> naturally
[03:18:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Thanks for the drink. Better be cocaine stirred innit, haha.
[03:18:41] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled: congratz in advance
[03:18:29] * mrcoolbp hands Deucalion a Absyinthe spoon
[03:18:28] <Ethanol-fueled> mrcoolbp...I'm graduating next Summer.
[03:18:12] <Ethanol-fueled> gotta brony in my operating systems class.
[03:18:10] * Deucalion pours E-F a triple Absyinthe shot..... melts up some sugar.....
[03:18:09] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled: how much left you got?
[03:17:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Same ol' shit re: school.
[03:17:49] <cmn32480> glad to hear it
[03:17:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Mostly.
[03:17:43] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled: how's school?
[03:17:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup.
[03:17:36] <cmn32480> still going easy?
[03:17:25] <mrcoolbp> good.
[03:17:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Much better.
[03:17:16] <cmn32480> how's the liver EF?
[03:17:07] <mrcoolbp> hey buddy
[03:17:03] <Ethanol-fueled> 'Sup.
[03:17:00] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: yeah, I get it
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[03:16:52] <mrcoolbp> oh jeez ^
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[03:16:31] <Deucalion> too many furious people and a history I do not know
[03:16:28] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: we aren't even into the debates here, I'm just saying I respect the tool, fear it, but feel it's pertinent to understand it (so I have learned them)
[03:15:34] <Deucalion> mrcoolbp, I spoke in jest. Firearms are merely a tool to be used one way or another, that decision is at the behest of the wielder. I'm in the UK, I'm in no position to wade into gun control debates in the US. I'm of mixed mind on it, but I will not enter into any discussion beyond that.
[03:15:32] * mrcoolbp wonders if the above is too much of extreme examples
[03:15:06] <mrcoolbp> 9/11 may have been a goverment thing, but I'm not a lizard-politition evangelist
[03:14:39] <mrcoolbp> I'm a realist
[03:14:29] * mrcoolbp considers that there may be a crazy revolution on the horizon but is not a big tin-foil fashionista
[03:14:21] <fliptop> amen
[03:13:48] <mrcoolbp> they scare the hell out of me, but in our country, I feel that's it's necessary to understand/appreciate/respect/be-familiar with them
[03:12:42] <mrcoolbp> not bragging just answering the question
[03:11:25] <mrcoolbp> I was also a boy-scout nearly to the highest level and have fired shotguns, assault rifles, lit TNT, fired a 30-30 sniper, revolver, etc.
[03:10:07] <mrcoolbp> the state north of us has gun-ranges that have automatic weapons that I have rented and tested. Much fun rivals much fear/respect of the tool-in-question
[03:09:33] -!- mode/#Soylent [-o Deucalion] by Imogen
[03:09:33] <Deucalion> .deop
[03:09:07] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: I'm trained in them (pretty comprehensively) but don't have access to them really
[03:08:42] <Deucalion> That sounds ominous..... do you have access to firearms sir? :D
[03:08:33] <mrcoolbp> s/that/whatever needs to be done?
[03:08:15] <mrcoolbp> = )
[03:08:03] <mrcoolbp> whatever I have to
[03:07:55] <Deucalion> So what ya going to do?
[03:07:37] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o mrcoolbp] by Imogen
[03:07:37] <Deucalion> .op mrcoolbp
[03:07:30] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v mrcoolbp] by Imogen
[03:07:30] <Deucalion> .voice mrcoolbp
[03:07:01] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: and I did ask him where we stand on the quote of how much we will owe him when all is said and done, and his reponse was nearly exactly: "we shouldn't be too far off that quote" (which was $1200 and I *believe* he meant we *could* be higher then the quote
[03:06:57] <Deucalion> The point is - it does not matter. I do not deserve anything mrcoolbp. It is about trust, the trust I have in you, the trust you have in me etc. This is a human thing not a technological thing. I would trust you with the kill switch for the entirety of SN and sleep easy knowing you had that. Trust and respect cannot be bought or demanded, it is earned. /here endeth today's lesson
[03:06:53] <Schwifty> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[03:06:53] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[03:06:43] <cmn32480> everybody be sure to give n1 a hearty handshake... he is at 1000 stories posted as of today.
[03:05:21] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: but the CPA doesn't seem worried about any of it
[03:05:09] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: so anyways, in summation, Matt will talk with $CPA soon and we will know more but we *may* need to make an adjustment to the stock issuance
[03:02:20] * mrcoolbp gives up on typing correctly at this point
[03:01:47] <mrcoolbp> I deserver it cmn32480
[03:01:38] <cmn32480> see what you get for asking????
[03:01:26] <mrcoolbp> so what's up fellow plebs?
[03:01:13] * mrcoolbp is a peon now
[03:01:05] <mrcoolbp> shit
[03:01:04] <cmn32480> damn!
[03:01:00] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: you however deserve the op status
[03:00:56] -!- mode/#Soylent [-v mrcoolbp] by Imogen
[03:00:56] <Deucalion> .devoice mrcoolbp
[03:00:44] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: I'm a "manager", so that resounds quite loudly with me and I like to think I stay true to that ideal
[03:00:36] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o Deucalion] by Imogen
[03:00:36] <Deucalion> .op
[03:00:19] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: I'm a
[03:00:00] <Deucalion> mrcoolbp, it is noted. The best leaders are those that tread the same path as those they would deign to lead or influence. We are one.
[02:59:59] <cmn32480> w2hat littel I can do to help
[02:59:42] <mrcoolbp> thanks buddy
[02:59:39] <mrcoolbp> ah that's better
[02:59:36] -!- mode/#Soylent [-o cmn32480] by Imogen
[02:59:36] <cmn32480> .deop
[02:59:30] -!- mode/#Soylent [-o mrcoolbp] by Imogen
[02:59:30] <cmn32480> .deop mrcoolbp
[02:59:22] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o cmn32480] by Imogen
[02:59:22] <cmn32480> .op
[02:58:33] * mrcoolbp should probably remove my op status for this session but doesn't
[02:55:05] * mrcoolbp would like to note that he is mainly here in a social sense and not an official SN sense this evening (even though it's already likely apparent)
[02:53:57] <mrcoolbp> poor cricket
[02:53:56] <fliptop> when the priest pisses on the rust stain, that's just classic
[02:53:37] <SoyCow0876> lol, that poor bastard
[02:53:27] <SoyCow0876> oh that's the one where they first break cricket
[02:52:31] <fliptop> ^my fav
[02:52:21] <Schwifty> ^ 03"It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" The Gang Exploits a Miracle (TV Episode 2006) - IMDb
[02:52:20] <fliptop> http://www.imdb.com
[02:52:10] <Schwifty> ^ 03It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia-The Nightman Cometh Season 4 Special Features - YouTube
[02:52:09] <SoyCow0876> https://www.youtube.com
[02:51:28] <mrcoolbp> are you fucking serious?
[02:51:17] <SoyCow0876> yeah it's classic. They made a live show of it
[02:50:47] <mrcoolbp> SoyCow0876: read above, I'm trying to pay attention to my wife but know that episode well and literally have the t-shirt
[02:50:03] <Deucalion> I'm sad no-one has anything to contribute on the French dominance of the Electronica musical thing. Perhaps I will do an article on it. Air kicked it into the main stream a long time back. I guess it's a bit niche and not really SN fodder.
[02:49:06] <mrcoolbp> I will upload a pic if you don't believe me
[02:48:58] <mrcoolbp> I have a "DayMAn!" shirt actually...
[02:48:46] <mrcoolbp> Oh the episode!! I've seen every one and rembmer that one well
[02:47:03] <Deucalion> close enough - just one nonsense line missed. Nothing was lost... as is pretty typical for losing my late night ramblings :D
[02:45:25] <SoyCow0876> decualion last thing I saw from yu was "or not - perhaps, we just are"
[02:45:00] <Deucalion> Did anything I said between N:26 to N:34 make it to the server or was I in some uni-directional limbo? I saw no replies.... :/
[02:44:54] <SoyCow0876> see it now, don't hesitate, supplies are limited!
[02:44:41] <SoyCow0876> it's one of their best ever episodes imho
[02:44:31] <SoyCow0876> everyone thinks he's dumb for doing it until he threatens to give "their parts" to otehr people, then they're all on board
[02:44:11] <SoyCow0876> he pretends it was just for the sake of doing it, but it's secretly a plot to propose to the waitress
[02:43:57] <SoyCow0876> he calls it the nightman cometh
[02:43:44] <mrcoolbp> remind*
[02:43:40] <mrcoolbp> rfemind me
[02:43:38] <mrcoolbp> I don't think so
[02:43:36] <SoyCow0876> or whatever it's called
[02:43:30] <SoyCow0876> mrcoolbp, have you seen "charlie writes a musical?"
[02:42:06] <Deucalion> My bouncer rebooted - underlying hypervisor update.
[02:39:25] <mrcoolbp> wb Deucalion
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[02:37:29] * mrcoolbp loves "it's always sunny"
[02:37:21] <mrcoolbp> fuck I can't type
[02:37:16] <mrcoolbp> "it
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[02:37:12] * mrcoolbp loves
[02:36:28] * SoyCow0876 is j/k and at this point is quoting it's always sunny in philadelphia if you didn't catch it
[02:35:33] * mrcoolbp is still around kinda
[02:34:01] <SoyCow0876> Deucalion, people don't just do things. Who is this vs. Who's face are we shoving it in
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[02:32:20] <Deucalion> Or not - perhaps, we just are.
[02:31:18] <SoyCow0876> I would have been much easier though, I'm using the web-based irc client which requires javascript
[02:31:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tor-Enabled Debian Mirrors - http://sylnt.us - in-tor-no-one-can-see-you-download
[02:31:01] <SoyCow0876> Deucalion, it's pretty clever. Probably you use vulnerabilities in the hardware accelerated CSS3 animation engine
[02:30:21] * Deucalion strokes white kitty while pouring a fine malt
[02:30:13] <Deucalion> SoyCow0876, yes we are infecting people's PC's with our lack of reliance on JS an Flash... we're so advanced we infect them with HTML and CSS alone. It's a brilliant strategy... everyone is looking over there >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at Flash vulns... we're over here pwning browsers with just HTML.
[02:30:08] <Tekk> 90% of good electronic music comes from either the UK or netherlands
[02:29:59] <Tekk> too slow though
[02:29:28] <Tekk> Deucalion: aye
[02:27:59] <SoyCow0876> probably cause they're well educated aesthetes
[02:26:32] <Deucalion> Has anyone else come across a musical outfit called "Justice" and their Cross album? Track 3 - Genesis is a bass epic that needs subs. French electronica at its finest. Why do the French have the market on Electronica? I'm generally more a traditional metal head, but this shit is ridiculous :D
[02:24:18] <SoyCow0876> and tekk
[02:23:54] <SoyCow0876> and they want to know who we're working with
[02:23:34] <SoyCow0876> Except conspiracy theorists who know that you're actually keeping two sets of books and one is just for show, meanwhile the NSA is helping you to infect everyone's computer becuase this is where the anti-spying types like to congregate
[02:23:21] <Tekk> SoyCow0876: as an illiterate I find the site completely secretive
[02:23:04] <SoyCow0876> I don't think anyone would accuse this site of being secretive.
[02:22:10] <mrcoolbp> yup
[02:21:32] <Tekk> ah
[02:21:29] <mrcoolbp> Tekk: at a restaurant
[02:21:20] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: YUP, pretty much exactly what I said
[02:20:53] <Tekk> Where do you work?
[02:20:44] <mrcoolbp> I know
[02:20:30] <Tekk> that's disturbing mrcoolbp
[02:20:28] <Deucalion> . And if people want that... I'm happy to provide it for their viewing.
[02:20:25] <Deucalion> mrcoolbp, we have open board meetings, pretty much anything that goes on gets discussed in #soylent. Sure, there's some minutiae that only surfaces in #the_other_channel - but it's mostly operational minutiae and differences of opinion on how to proceed that bores the shit out of us let alone how dull it would be to the present congregated lentils. We are as transparent as we can be without videoing or smalls going through the laundry each week
[02:20:08] * mrcoolbp had a really long weekend where he worked about 23 hours in 2 days, which is starting to get scarily typical
[02:19:33] <mrcoolbp> er #Soylent
[02:19:22] * mrcoolbp wonders what happened to Soylent in the last 2 months
[02:19:09] <mrcoolbp> and my URL bot for that matter
[02:18:58] <Tekk> ^pasteur's crypt, since we were discussing him earlier
[02:18:49] <Tekk> http://pariswithnancy.com
[02:18:48] <mrcoolbp> god dammnit where is my freaking sedbot clone
[02:18:45] <Tekk> cool
[02:18:09] <mrcoolbp> s/errors/alerts/
[02:17:58] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: they are mostly I/O errors
[02:17:42] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: just FYI: I have been recieving a slight higher volume of "Alerts" from linode since rehash deploy. Since I'm such an incompetent (or otherwise completely useless) admin, I (at the instruction of other admins) ignore these alerts 90%, I still note their volume, and I've been getting a lot in the past few weeks
[02:15:15] <mrcoolbp> to the constituents of #Soylent: honestly we would have 95% of all our discussion in this channels (and we still have around 40% here) if it weren't for a few un-related factors that include S/N, acutally trying to protect some info that needs protecting, and the habit to tend towards the second item
[02:14:43] <cmn32480> back in a few... gotta kiss the kids goodnight
[02:14:38] <SoyCow0876> call-backs ftw
[02:14:33] <SoyCow0876> lol
[02:13:34] <mrcoolbp> ROFL
[02:13:29] <Tekk> Deucalion: you'd think that bacteria would've developed an immunity to UV by now
[02:13:23] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: I love you
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[02:13:04] <mrcoolbp> not yet, later yes.
[02:13:04] * cmn32480 does the happy dance
[02:13:03] <Deucalion> mrcoolbp, no hate from me. SN is transparent, long may it remain so. If people do not want to see the machinery then they are welcome not to look at it..... their choice. Sunlight is the best disinfectant after all :)
[02:12:55] <cmn32480> no0... thank you!
[02:12:49] <mrcoolbp> thanks~
[02:12:46] <cmn32480> will do.
[02:12:36] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: email me your address then, it will take a few weeks for me to receive everything and re-send out to you
[02:11:56] <cmn32480> very
[02:11:52] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: let me know if you are interested
[02:11:48] <cmn32480> cooooooool
[02:11:39] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: it's a best in class flashlight
[02:11:39] <Schwifty> ^ 03LEGO Star Wars Darth Vader Head Lamp | ThinkGeek
[02:11:37] <cmn32480> http://www.thinkgeek.com
[02:11:30] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: no, it's a 'sick' tactical flashlight and requires special batteries but you'd have to recharge them with an external charger which I would also send along)
[02:11:09] <cmn32480> (my kids got me one for Christmas, total awesomeness)
[02:10:35] <cmn32480> is it a Lego Darth Vader headlamp?
[02:10:17] <cmn32480> occassionally
[02:10:12] <mrcoolbp> are you a flashlight geek like me?
[02:10:04] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: relevant tidbit, I just bought a really sick flashlight, I want to send you one
[02:09:53] <cmn32480> jsut lucky to have a really go team around him
[02:09:40] <cmn32480> no sir.
[02:09:34] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: just skimmed notes in editorial; you are a saint
[02:09:20] <cmn32480> running around with light sabers in the dark
[02:09:06] <cmn32480> we had a fire, and s'mores...
[02:08:48] <mrcoolbp> wow on both accounts
[02:08:47] <cmn32480> waiting on the kids to get clean for bedtime
[02:08:42] <mrcoolbp> ????????????????
[02:08:39] <cmn32480> at home
[02:08:37] <cmn32480> n1 showed up from the ether yesterday and janrinok is back from holiday tomorrow.
[02:08:33] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: where are you today???
[02:07:58] * mrcoolbp blushes
[02:07:52] * mrcoolbp has a D but does not take positions to help the D
[02:07:39] <mrcoolbp> not D
[02:07:35] <mrcoolbp> SN
[02:07:32] * mrcoolbp is NOT a tax/accounting/stock kinda guy, and took this position in order to help D
[02:07:20] <cmn32480> and we got 2 guys back this week
[02:07:11] <cmn32480> we gotcha covered on the editorial side, boss. no worries
[02:06:50] * mrcoolbp profusely hugs cmn32480!!!!!!!!!
[02:06:37] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: his excuse recently was that he was away while I sent a question to him. But AGAIN, when I'm there he is amazing, super-nice, and extremely patient and helpful with me!!
[02:06:01] * cmn32480 gives mrcoolbp a hug that is well deserved
[02:05:37] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: don't hate me = (
[02:05:29] <mrcoolbp> SoyCow0876: it's partly my fault for not following up enough with the CPA, but he has dragged his feet a few times so...yeah
[02:05:14] <SoyCow0876> how much are taxes for a site that makes no profit and barely covers running costs?
[02:05:13] <HwS> SoyCow0876: those books should be written in braille so the ink doesn't fade
[02:05:11] <cmn32480> and since when has this site had any issues airing our dirty laundry in public?
[02:04:55] <mrcoolbp> yeah
[02:04:55] <cmn32480> good golly... transparency... will wonders never cease!
[02:04:52] <SoyCow0876> oh, those bastards
[02:04:30] <mrcoolbp> Taxes
[02:04:25] <SoyCow0876> what are you filing an extension on mrcoolbp?
[02:04:13] * mrcoolbp is airing SN dirty laundry a bit here in our public channel and hopes our beloved community doesn't mind that we have such an open-door policy on such matters
[02:04:08] <SoyCow0876> hopefully they'll never be needed, but they'll last a thousand years
[02:03:26] <SoyCow0876> We should all print off our favourite websites and bind them and then bury them in a box somewhere
[02:03:25] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: Matt is checking on some stuff with him (they had not previously spoken, but matt is better-versed on the legal/stock/tax stuff than I) and he will report back this week if we have to change the Stock thing (which I have been wating for an answer on for nearly a month!!)))
[02:03:13] <SoyCow0876> Books are the best storage medium so far, i mean long term
[02:02:47] <HwS> We should store all data in FAT16 on Betamax tapes and laser disks
[02:02:33] <SoyCow0876> someone should write all this stuff down before the next war
[02:02:28] <mrcoolbp> a bit yes, I'm not sure how much
[02:02:27] <SoyCow0876> yeah there's a lot of amazing stuff invented over the last couple of hundred years that would be a shame to lose.
[02:02:14] <Deucalion> mrcoolbp, does filing an extension cost us?
[02:01:43] <Deucalion> Tekk, history shows that every time a great empire declines and fails, learnt knowledge is lost one way or another - deliberate or not. We should not consciously allow this, knowledge should be preserved, actively maintained and developed, and protected from the petty ravages of political and financial frippery. This accumulated shared human wisdom transcends any political, societal or religious structure that may exist at any given time.
[02:01:42] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: the CPA is pissing me off a bit but I showed up at his office without notice on a Friday afternoon around 3pm and instead of sending me away he stayed past 5pm to help me try to wrap some stuff up
[02:00:46] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: sorry, I know not the best place/time for this but there it is ^
[02:00:32] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: BTW we are filing for an extension right now
[02:00:17] <Tekk> ah
[02:00:10] <mrcoolbp> he's talking about my work week Tekk
[02:00:07] <Tekk> this funding drive ends in december
[01:59:55] <Tekk> what 70 hours SoyCow0876 ?
[01:59:53] <SoyCow0876> mrcoolbp, that's kind of him/her. Probably they want to be anonymous and not contacted
[01:59:50] * mrcoolbp is trying to wrap up our first year taxes still if you can believe that
[01:59:38] <cmn32480> you, sir, are a beast
[01:59:33] <mrcoolbp> that came out wrong but you know what I mean
[01:59:25] <mrcoolbp> yeah I'm fine, I'm a fucking machine
[01:59:10] <SoyCow0876> geez 70 hours. Hope you're holding up ok
[01:59:10] <mrcoolbp> SowCow0876: one guy has been contributing mucho dinero every quater or so and we have been unable to contact him for comment, but it's amazing the support we get!!!!!
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[01:58:16] <mrcoolbp> SowCow0876: not too bad sir, super stressed and working like 70 hrs so pretty normal good sir
[01:58:08] <SoyCow0876> happy to see the fund-o-meter slowly increasing on the right panel there
[01:58:01] <Tekk> it was invented in one of the caliphates but brought to the west by fibbonacci in the 13th century mrcoolbp
[01:57:44] <SoyCow0876> I'm good thanks
[01:57:42] <SoyCow0876> yep how's it hanging
[01:57:37] <mrcoolbp> SoyCow0876: hey buddy how are ya??
[01:57:27] <Tekk> but it came to the west quite a while
[01:57:25] <mrcoolbp> shit it's prospectacle?
[01:57:22] <Tekk> is named after al jabr
[01:57:18] <mrcoolbp> oh it'
[01:57:16] <Tekk> mrcoolbp: algebra
[01:57:12] <SoyCow0876> mrcoolbp, it's yours
[01:57:06] <SoyCow0876> it's a prospectacle original. I would have logged on properly but just came to say the site was down
[01:57:05] <mrcoolbp> that is a GREAT quote
[01:56:53] <mrcoolbp> nice then
[01:56:48] <mrcoolbp> yah
[01:56:42] <SoyCow0876> mrcoolp just improvising
[01:56:41] <mrcoolbp> Tekk: I think Algebra or Calculus came out of the middle east, so possibly? (someone will correct me here)
[01:56:22] <SoyCow0876> What about the antikythera mechanism. Why was that line of research cut off and failed to resprout for more than a thousand years.
[01:56:16] <Tekk> persians I can buy because you tend to be a bit vindictive when you've fought a civilization for centuries
[01:56:08] <HwS> Deucalion: man is capable of great destruction ... and great stupidity
[01:55:56] <mrcoolbp> SowCow0876: that's a good one, where's that from?
[01:55:48] <Tekk> Did we really lose that much in the fall of the ottomans Deucalion?
[01:55:36] <Deucalion> History repeats and all that. We should learn. Knowledge accumulation and preservation above all.
[01:55:34] <SoyCow0876> Long after the dead are forgotten, we remember the destruction of knowledge as the greatest crime
[01:55:33] * mrcoolbp thinks he's important because he has an "@" in front of his name
[01:54:31] <mrcoolbp> Library of Alexandria and all that
[01:54:07] <Deucalion> Tekk, there was much knowledge lost in the smashing of the Ottoman and Persian empires. As a species that knowledge destruction is shameful. But such we are.
[01:54:07] <mrcoolbp> SowCow0876: we are always listening, but sometimes with thumbs up our orifices
[01:53:36] <SoyCow0876> grateful
[01:53:11] <SoyCow0876> but I'm grately it's known and being addressed
[01:53:02] <SoyCow0876> well, down is as down does
[01:52:01] <mrcoolbp> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[01:51:56] <mrcoolbp> PSA - SoylentNews is NOT DOWN - WE ARE HOWEVER EXPERIENCING SOME MINOR ISSUES - Please be patient, the proper parties have been paged and will address the issue when they are able to do so. That is all = )
[01:51:24] <SoyCow0876> Those guys who drank the stomach ulcer bacteria are a fairly recent example. Have there been any other lately?
[01:51:20] <Tekk> and brought it to the west in 1715
[01:51:16] <Tekk> a woman observed one while visiting the ottoman empire
[01:51:08] <Tekk> according to wikipedia it wasn't invented in the 1700s
[01:51:04] <SoyCow0876> Scientists who experiment on themselves are my favourite kind
[01:51:02] <Tekk> ah, interesting
[01:49:20] <HwS> SoyCow0876: not yet. It's still intermittent
[01:49:17] <Schwifty> ^ 03Wiki: Louis Pasteur
[01:49:15] <Deucalion> https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:48:43] <Tekk> Deucalion: I think he did work on this, yeah
[01:48:18] <Deucalion> We're*
[01:48:05] <SoyCow0876> hooray site is back up
[01:48:02] <Deucalion> Were venturing into Louis Pasteur territory here are we not?
[01:48:01] <HwS> No wonder I take Tekk's advice on floor food - he's got a high QI ... and he watches the History channel
[01:47:40] <Tekk> It was back in the 1700s I think
[01:47:33] <SoyCow0876> oh much better
[01:47:22] <Tekk> he cut himself and smeared the pus into the wound
[01:47:17] <SoyCow0876> oh
[01:47:14] <Tekk> He didn't inject himself SoyCow0876
[01:47:13] <Deucalion> Tekk, you may well be right, I will stand corrected. My memory is hazy at the best of times.
[01:47:11] <SoyCow0876> yeah it was QI
[01:47:05] <SoyCow0876> Imagine the nerve on the person who first injected themselves with infected cow pus to "test the theory"
[01:47:00] <Tekk> I think that one was history channel though
[01:46:51] * Tekk just watches far too much QI
[01:46:32] <Bender> karma - tekk: 1
[01:46:32] <mrcoolbp> Tekk++
[01:46:24] <mrcoolbp> Tekk ++
[01:46:17] <mrcoolbp> Tekk +1 insightful
[01:46:11] <Tekk> that's how we came up with the smallpox vaccine
[01:46:07] <SoyCow0876> And that kind of feeble crawl where they only use their arms and not their legs
[01:46:04] <Tekk> it was noticed that people who'd had cowpox didn't catch smallpox
[01:45:57] <SoyCow0876> I think the trick is to cause yourself immense pain from time to time, that slows the march of time down to a crawl
[01:45:53] <Tekk> Deucalion: that was smallpox
[01:45:43] <Deucalion> I thought the "chicken pox" vaccine as administered in the UK at least was derived from "cow pox" - a pox that while it may cause fever was not as dangerous as chicken pox itself i.e the similarities between the two built up immune response to the more dangerous pox by exposure to the less dangerous. I'm probably way out of date on my reading on that though.
[01:45:39] <mrcoolbp> oh shit = )
[01:45:36] <mrcoolbp> as long as fliptop isn't here
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[01:45:18] * mrcoolbp reccomends "Brief History of Time" to SoyCow0876
[01:44:54] <mrcoolbp> SoyCow0876: really, NO-ONE?
[01:44:46] <SoyCow0876> actually they all did but what did they know, they were old and uncool
[01:44:39] * mrcoolbp blames Einstien for time
[01:44:37] <SoyCow0876> nobody warned me it would happen so fast
[01:44:20] <mrcoolbp> SoyCow0876: happens
[01:44:05] <Tekk> SoyCow0876: time man, fucks everything up
[01:44:04] * mrcoolbp realizes everyone knows his age know and gives exactly 2 fucks about it
[01:43:57] <SoyCow0876> I used not to be. I don't know what happened
[01:43:52] <SoyCow0876> Damn I'm old
[01:43:52] <Tekk> Year I was born, so it worked out pretty well for me
[01:43:40] <mrcoolbp> lol I was 9, sounds about right
[01:43:37] <Tekk> not about ;)
[01:43:32] <Tekk> it came out in 95
[01:43:29] <Tekk> mrcoolbp: literally 20 years ago
[01:43:26] <mrcoolbp> I was hip to the party, my parents let me know what was going on and why, I trust them so it was cool with me
[01:42:55] <SoyCow0876> mrcoolbp, I'm with you, was a few years too early to the party
[01:42:40] * mrcoolbp isn't that old but apparently just old enough for this one
[01:42:26] <mrcoolbp> s'why it was a thing then
[01:42:17] <mrcoolbp> Tekk: I don't think we had a vax 20 years ago
[01:42:14] <SoyCow0876> Vaccines are cool. All the fun of getting the disease, with none of the mucus or scars
[01:42:05] <Tekk> yeah*
[01:42:01] <Tekk> yeha
[01:42:01] <Tekk> commonly on the schedule in Europe, but kept to "Recommended for those at risk for chicken pox" in the UK
[01:42:00] <mrcoolbp> Tekk ^
[01:41:55] <mrcoolbp> pox vax?
[01:41:43] <Tekk> mrcoolbp: it's been on the standard schedule for kids in the US since 06
[01:41:41] <HwS> Tekk: I believe he's talking about the shingles to no-shingles odds
[01:41:33] <SoyCow0876> Since you asked
[01:41:32] * mrcoolbp puts money on double-zero
[01:41:29] <SoyCow0876> Is what i would bet on if we were suddenly playing roullette
[01:41:19] <SoyCow0876> Evens, black, first 12
[01:41:17] * mrcoolbp whacks HwS
[01:41:11] * mrcoolbp doesn't take part in unneccesary vaccines but is NOT anti-vaxx
[01:41:07] <Tekk> ods of what SoyCow0876?
[01:40:57] <HwS> so are evens
[01:40:50] <mrcoolbp> odds are important
[01:40:30] <SoyCow0876> any idea on the odds?
[01:40:26] <Tekk> but it can also be administered later in life to vaccinate against shingles
[01:40:16] <Tekk> It seems like you *can* get shingles from the vaccine, since it's a live vaccine
[01:40:07] <Tekk> Hm
[01:39:55] <HwS> SouthPark did a chicken pox party episode
[01:39:41] <SoyCow0876> Tekk, but since there is one, I agree that's now a better option
[01:39:27] <SoyCow0876> Tekk, I missed it by a few years then
[01:39:12] <Tekk> 95
[01:39:09] <Tekk> SoyCow0876: wikipedia says it's been around for 20 years now
[01:38:20] <Bender> karma - spallshurgenson: 26
[01:38:20] <mrcoolbp> SpallsHurgenson++
[01:38:20] <SoyCow0876> Tekk, i agree a vaccine is better. Do you know how long there has been a safe, effective vaccine for chicken pox?
[01:38:18] <HwS> WooHoo! Dinner is served
[01:38:16] <SpallsHurgenson> sexy, sexy poultry
[01:38:14] <Bender> karma - spallshurgenson: 25
[01:38:14] <mrcoolbp> SpallsHurgenson++
[01:38:01] <mrcoolbp> Tekk: not sure on the science on that one
[01:37:59] <Tekk> HwS: nah, you're good
[01:37:57] <SpallsHurgenson> or engaging poultry in carnal acts
[01:37:50] <Tekk> I'm not sure how the vaccine interacts with shingles either
[01:37:48] <mrcoolbp> SoyCow0876: even moderation
[01:37:41] <Tekk> mrcoolbp: yeah, but vaccines tend to be better in terms of not actually dealing with having chicken pox
[01:37:40] <mrcoolbp> SoyCow0876: everything in moderation
[01:37:29] <SoyCow0876> such as not eating food from well trodden floors, or washing hands before eating
[01:37:14] <SoyCow0876> so most diseases are worth taking steps to avoid
[01:37:07] <SoyCow0876> mrcoolbp, right, exactly. Most diseases you can get easily from others either mutate quickly or you don't want to get them even once (unlike chicken pox where it's the lesser of two evils)
[01:37:00] <SpallsHurgenson> makes me wonder what's going on at these chicken pox parties
[01:36:59] <mrcoolbp> Tekk: basically the same idea
[01:36:58] <HwS> Tekk: it fell hot sauce down. Does that mean the sauce served as a barrier from the floor?
[01:36:48] <Tekk> but you're better off just getting the vaccine
[01:36:30] <mrcoolbp> SoyCow0876: flu mutates quickly (many times per year) so that would not be viable
[01:36:30] <SoyCow0876> and most people are immune after they've got it once
[01:35:54] <mrcoolbp> ^
[01:35:45] <SoyCow0876> Tekk, it's safer to get it as a kid than as an adult
[01:35:42] <mrcoolbp> Tekk: If you weren't aware, it was popular in the 80s-90s to wait till a friend had a kid with chicken pox and give it to your kids intentionally so they wouldn't get it on vacation or something (I think), google "Chicken Pox party"
[01:35:33] <Tekk> and they're fucking idiots
[01:35:30] <Tekk> SoyCow0876: yes
[01:35:24] <SoyCow0876> Tekk, they're very common, or if not "parties" the parents trying to get their kids infected by chicken pox when it is going around
[01:35:16] <SpallsHurgenson> (11 year old boys are in the know about these sorts of things)
[01:35:14] <Tekk> I'd work on a peanut butter sandwich control but I'm full atm
[01:35:06] <Tekk> HwS: perfect
[01:35:00] <HwS> Tekk: yes, yes, it will be fresh out of the microwave
[01:34:55] * SpallsHurgenson has it from good authority that you catch chicken pox from f**king chickens :)
[01:34:55] <Tekk> SoyCow0876: I'd call you fucking insane for chicken pox parties
[01:34:36] <SoyCow0876> You have might have chicken pox parties and no one will call your crazy, but you don't have flu parties or food poisoning parties without being a little off in the head
[01:34:36] <Tekk> HwS: only if you defrost it before you drop it
[01:34:33] <mrcoolbp> SoyCow0876: actually we always have something cool happening around here, just nice to have more people around to discuss and 'insight on it'
[01:34:25] <HwS> Is a frozen burrito an acceptable stand-in for the floor burger?
[01:34:24] <Tekk> generally anything with "pox" in the name is to be avoided
[01:34:02] <SoyCow0876> mrcoolbp, that's why I said "almost all the time". Chicken pox is a major exception, and definitely an exception
[01:33:57] <mrcoolbp> Tekk me too
[01:33:54] * Tekk was lucky and never got chicken pox
[01:33:54] <SpallsHurgenson> my backup method is for computer B to copy stuff off of Computer A. Then Computer C copies it off B. Then D off of C. Then A off of D. :)
[01:33:50] <Tekk> hope you don't develop shingles
[01:33:47] <Tekk> mrcoolbp: :/
[01:33:38] <SoyCow0876> Geez the site should go down more often, you get some interesting conversations going on here
[01:33:28] <mrcoolbp> SoyCow0876: Agree on first point, disagree on second. My parents gave me chicken pox on purpose = )
[01:33:24] <Tekk> I'd like to, SpallsHurgenson :D
[01:33:11] * SpallsHurgenson reads the soylent poll
[01:32:48] <SoyCow0876> mrcoolbp, I think as long as the baby plays on the floor, and you have a family pet, you're pretty golden. After that it's worth trying to avoid giving and receiving diseases almost all the time, cause who has time for that
[01:32:45] <Schwifty> ^ 03Wiki: Hygiene hypothesis
[01:32:44] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: well you arrived at it without hearing about it but: https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:32:35] <SpallsHurgenson> I've grown to like the taste of bleach
[01:32:17] <HwS> Oooh, thanks!
[01:32:09] <Deucalion> mrcoolbp, no I am not familiar with "hygiene theory" per se but I am from a medical family and understand how T-cells and macrophages work, how the human immune system does it's job... on a conceptual level. Bleaching the fuck out of everything in sight is really not a good idea.
[01:31:59] <SoyCow0876> HwS, the spiciest areas are behind the fridge
[01:31:56] <mrcoolbp> SoyCow0876: yeah, but look at kids these days with their purel, and the prevelance of allergies and sensitivities (I work in a restaurant so it may seem exaggerated for me)
[01:31:42] <HwS> All this talk about floor food made me hungry. I'm going to go drop something to eat on the floor
[01:31:29] <SoyCow0876> Now I want to avoid being sick, and combined with my well developed immune system, not eating stuff off the floor is a large part of my strategy
[01:31:11] <SoyCow0876> mrcoolbp, that's true and I agree. As a kid I ate all kinds of stuff from the floor
[01:31:01] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion it's actually Hygiene Hypothesis, my apologies
[01:30:57] <Tekk> I was thinking about like, dropping a crisp from my desk
[01:30:49] <Tekk> I generally don't worry about it in restaurants and such
[01:30:46] <SoyCow0876> Tekk, if there's a cleaner who works there, then probably
[01:30:41] <mrcoolbp> establishment of immune tolerance. (wikipedia)
[01:30:41] <mrcoolbp> SoyCow0876: In medicine, the hygiene hypothesis is a hypothesis that states that a lack of early childhood exposure to infectious agents, symbiotic microorganisms (e.g. gut flora or probiotics), and parasites increases susceptibility to allergic diseases by suppressing the natural development of the immune system. In particular, the lack of exposure is thought to lead to defects in the
[01:30:36] <SoyCow0876> Well, much higher than not doing so
[01:30:34] <Tekk> Are we actually talking high traffic areas though?
[01:30:13] <Tekk> so when I started taking classes at community college I'd often get sick
[01:30:12] <SoyCow0876> Eating something from the floor, after any number of seconds, in a well trafficked area, is a high risk
[01:30:05] <Tekk> I was homeschooled and rarely left the house
[01:29:58] <Tekk> Deucalion: I had that problem interestingly enough
[01:29:56] <SoyCow0876> Deucalion, I'm full of germs and covered in them, no doubt, everyone is. That's not the question. The question is risk of illness
[01:29:24] * Deucalion gifts SoyCow0876 a gallon of bleach. Enjoy your sterile environment.... and you susceptibility to common cold and flu etc. You probably want to wash in that bleach... your skin is quite literally crawling with germs.... drink it too - those bastards are in your stomach and guts the evil little things.
[01:29:17] <mrcoolbp> RAREly get sick
[01:29:10] <mrcoolbp> I'm extremely 'healthy' and I eat whatever whenever
[01:29:02] <HwS> Is that what happened to the site? It ate something off the datacenter floor and now it's not feeling well?
[01:28:51] <mrcoolbp> basically what you described above
[01:28:44] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: are you familiar with "hygiene theory"?
[01:28:42] <SoyCow0876> I'm not sure anymore, it's all happening so fast
[01:28:28] <HwS> Is this a metaphorical hamburger?
[01:28:16] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I only eat food in pill form, like the jetsons!
[01:27:49] <SoyCow0876> Go nuts. You probably won't die at least
[01:27:41] <SoyCow0876> Depends on what it is and the amount. I mean if you don't mind risking a week food poisoning or flu, then don't worry about what surfaces your food touches
[01:27:11] <Tekk> they aren't much of a problem for our immune systems
[01:27:04] <Tekk> but since humans are capable of surviving, we're pretty resistant to the things that are common
[01:26:58] <SoyCow0876> Tekk, right, so looking it doesn't tell you much
[01:26:46] <Tekk> any amount of them is invisible SoyCow0876
[01:26:43] <SoyCow0876> A bit of illness can't be avoided sometimes, but often it can
[01:26:34] <SpallsHurgenson> but the taste!
[01:26:32] <Tekk> think of how much is consumed via restaurant workers who didn't wash their hands every year
[01:26:32] <SoyCow0876> this is mistaken. Most sickness comes from an invisible amount of whatever it is that makes you sick
[01:26:18] <Tekk> Even *if* it fell in shit there's a fair chance it'd be safe
[01:26:02] <SoyCow0876> lol
[01:25:51] <Tekk> you have an immune system, unless it fell in like, shit, it's not going to hurt you
[01:25:40] <Tekk> it's an issue of dirt being shitty to eat
[01:25:36] <Tekk> it's not an issue of germs
[01:25:33] <Tekk> SoyCow0876: You look at the burger
[01:25:27] <HwS> What if you're on a train traveling at a high rate of speed and time is slowing down for you?
[01:25:23] <SpallsHurgenson> I just politely ask the germs to get off
[01:25:22] <SoyCow0876> Or are pathogens visible to the naked eye these days. I have been away for a while, maybe something changed
[01:25:09] <Deucalion> SoyCow0876, how does one avoid "eating germs"? The biome that is the human form is reliant on bacteria to survive, its immune response becomes trained by invasive "germs". It would not be healthy to live in a completely sterile environment. Not that I condone smearing fecal matter on every surface, but go to far the other way and things go out of whack also.
[01:25:02] <SoyCow0876> How does one ascertain what it fell in without a microscope
[01:24:39] <Tekk> then it's cool
[01:24:37] <Tekk> and it hasn't been sitting there long enough for stuff to get kicked up on it
[01:24:30] <Tekk> the 5 second rule is just an application of the truism that as long as the food didn't *fall* in anything
[01:24:25] <SpallsHurgenson> that rules me out
[01:24:09] <Tekk> you just need to not be a dumbass
[01:24:06] <SoyCow0876> "Works" to do what?
[01:23:52] <Tekk> SoyCow0876: the 5 second rule works fine
[01:23:26] <SoyCow0876> The five second rule works equally well as a method of contraception, ie not at all
[01:23:06] <HwS> Joy. More submissions I won't be able to read on the blank screen
[01:22:27] <SpallsHurgenson> 9 submissions in the queue
[01:22:23] <Tekk> As soon as the wrapper is compromised then the 5 second rule comes in
[01:21:58] Tekk` is now known as Tekk
[01:21:55] <Tekk`> unless the wrapping is pierced
[01:21:51] <Tekk`> If the burger is wrapped you're cool indefinitely
[01:20:32] <HwS> The type of wrapper the burger is in affects the line of demarcation
[01:20:28] <Deucalion> Only once - when I implanted the tracking chips and sound monitoring
[01:20:26] <SoyCow0876> 5 seconds is for eating it, assuming you don't care about eating germs or cleaning products, or whatever else is on the floor that people have brought from outside on their shoes, then you can safely eat something within five seconds of dropping it
[01:19:55] <SpallsHurgenson> I see you have never actually met my cat :)
[01:19:35] <Deucalion> only because your cat has ninja reaction times SpallsHurgenson - if you don't pick it up with 5 seconds, the cat has it away.
[01:19:26] <Tekk`> SpallsHurgenson: The internet runs on tcp, it's the 256 second rule
[01:18:57] <SpallsHurgenson> eiiu, no. It's a five-second rule, not a 228 second rule!
[01:18:20] <Deucalion> HwS, I'm not answering that, we'd be here for weeks while I ramble on and on and then we all become suicidal.
[01:17:47] <SoyCow0876> From my extensive metaphysical research I have concluded that it's at 3.8 minutes after the burger first contacts the floor that the magical change occurs. No one knows why
[01:17:02] <HwS> Deucalion: what could possibly go wrong?
[01:16:51] <SoyCow0876> But there is some magical place in between where the world changes. It goes from being someone else's fault, to their fault, although it just since there, slowly putrefying
[01:16:17] <SoyCow0876> After two days, they're definitely responsible, for not having cleaned it up
[01:16:13] <Deucalion> systemd-IIS-AAS.d - everything is "as a service" now isn't? Why not pull that cloudy goodness into the init system? Has to be a good thing right?
[01:16:05] <HwS> As soon as you walk away from it.
[01:16:04] <SoyCow0876> Surely not immediately, if it was someone else who dropped the half-eaten burger
[01:15:48] <SoyCow0876> At what point is the cleaner responsible for the mess on the floor
[01:15:40] <SoyCow0876> It's a deep question
[01:15:33] <HwS> The important thing is that you didn't imagine it.
[01:14:59] <SpallsHurgenson> Bytram isn't necessarily to blame... he's just the one that has to do the work to fix it :)
[01:14:49] <JamesNZ> Grey horror?
[01:14:34] <HwS> Linode doesn't offer Windows servers. I'm not sure if systemd has added IIS functionality yet.
[01:14:29] <Deucalion> Don't be silly SpallsHurgenson - Bytram is always to blame... for everything
[01:14:27] * JamesNZ sees only grey
[01:13:44] * SpallsHurgenson wonders if Microsoft is somehow to blame for Soylent being up... or down
[01:13:08] <SoyCow0876> I'm also getting a blank page
[01:13:07] <SpallsHurgenson> I am once again forced to endure the red horror that is soylentnews.org
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[01:08:47] <Deucalion> soylentnews.com redirected to soylentnews.org for me... once.... now I get ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE
[01:04:15] <HwS> soylentnews.com gets a connection error. So much for that
[01:03:04] <Tekk`> :(
[01:02:49] * SpallsHurgenson goes back to the green site :)
[01:02:14] <HwS> I'm usually for anything to save on bandwidth, but this new "Kreskin" theme isn't doing it for me
[01:01:50] <SpallsHurgenson> according to page info, I've visited this website 290 times today... somehow I feel this number may be slightly inaccurate
[01:01:11] <Tekk`> yep
[01:01:03] <HwS> Tekk`: still getting blanks?
[01:00:36] <Deucalion> OK - well I have flagged up the issue in the secret squirrel HQ channel for the attention of those that would know how to diagnose and address it. It's outside my ken to go dabbling - in fact I don't think I even have access to the servers involved, probably wise, I'd just break shit anyway :D
[00:59:45] <HwS> It's like a Magic 8-Ball with blank sides on its internal mystery shape.
[00:59:12] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, if I click on a link I get a blank page again.
[00:58:26] <HwS> It is intermittent. I've had a blank home page, about page, and individual stories
[00:57:32] <HwS> No errors, not HTML, nothing.
[00:57:30] <SpallsHurgenson> aww, now the pages load again. how disappointing :)
[00:57:16] <HwS> Nope, nothing.
[00:57:10] <SpallsHurgenson> (also, it's better than 90% of soylent's regular content :) :) :)
[00:57:04] <Deucalion> HwS - nothing at all if you View Source for the served page?
[00:56:55] <SpallsHurgenson> yay! Now I'm getting blank pages too! I feel so loved!
[00:56:28] <HwS> Just blank pages
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[00:55:24] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, you are clearly not being monitored as closely as these others are.... clearly a problem on those routes via Langley, Fort Meade or Cheltenham (UK). /tinfoil hat off :D
[00:54:55] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe we could DDoS Soylent? Then everybody
[00:52:16] <Tekk`> about a dollar will hold a key donw
[00:52:06] <Tekk`> I use dimes for that though in games
[00:52:05] <Deucalion> HwS - to be clear you are not getting timeouts or 503 errors - but being served a page devoid of content?
[00:51:44] * SpallsHurgenson is disappointed to discover that the website loads just fine for him. Once again, I'm left out of the action :-/
[00:51:41] <Tekk`> HwS: I feel you
[00:48:40] <HwS> I'm doing what I can. I've got a plastic knife keeping the F5 key down.
[00:47:54] <SpallsHurgenson> best thing to do is just keep hammering the site :)
[00:47:21] <HwS> I get blanks pages more often than not
[00:46:47] <Deucalion> weird - it's snappy as a snappy thing using chromium while not logged in. FF is a bit laggy - but then I have a slew of plugins with that browser.
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[00:44:27] <Tekk`> browsers*
[00:44:24] <Tekk`> persists across browser
[00:44:08] <Tekk`> okay yeah, blank page, not just front page (happened when I try to go into comments), refreshes don't help, cacheless (local) refreshes don't work
[00:43:57] <Tekk`> I only log in when I want to comment
[00:43:51] <Tekk`> mhm
[00:43:41] <Deucalion> still not logged in?
[00:43:19] <Tekk`> oh hey, just got it
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[00:41:49] <Deucalion> pj* even
[00:41:36] <Deucalion> I know the guys were talking about memory constraints becoming an issue on one or more servers - perhaps this is fallout from the rather eager server consolidation we went through. I'm sure ph or NC will get to the bottom of it.
[00:40:30] <mrcoolbp> Evening Deucalion = )
[00:40:08] <Deucalion> evening mrcoolbp :)
[00:39:32] <mrcoolbp> actually we did upgrade mod_perl when rehash went live
[00:39:02] <mrcoolbp> = )
[00:39:00] <mrcoolbp> No, the sentience module is still at ver. 0.3
[00:38:39] <Tekk`> maybe Larry finally gave perl sentience. You guys didn't upgrade that recently did you?
[00:38:31] <mrcoolbp> lol
[00:38:27] <Tekk`> which is great for me but sucks for the devs
[00:38:23] <Tekk`> yeah, it started working once I complained mrcoolbp
[00:37:49] <mrcoolbp> I cannot replicate this behavior, everything is snappy for me
[00:37:09] <Tekk`> Correct
[00:31:58] <Deucalion> Tekk`, to be clear, the site wasn't timing out - it was serving blank pages?
[00:30:07] <Deucalion> This is more an issue for paulej72 and NCommander to look into (I'd have no clue where to begin tbh) - my best very uneducated guess would be something going amiss with caching.
[00:28:01] <Tekk`> nah
[00:27:35] <Deucalion> Were you logged in or not?
[00:27:21] <Tekk`> that was exactly what I was hitting
[00:27:19] <Tekk`> yep
[00:26:51] <Deucalion> Seems to be working OK for me - but others have mentioned throughout the day that they are being served blank pages and the like
[00:26:10] <Tekk`> ...and it just came back up mysteriously
[00:26:02] <Tekk`> Is the site down or is it just me?
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[00:00:18] <Ethanol-fooled> Stay strong, brothers!
[00:00:07] <Ethanol-fooled> Time for a run fellas. Peace! Or no Peace, bahaha.